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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Shine Delusion Shine, the radical art of dreaming

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<v Speaker 1>beyond boundaries. I am Vicky Todd, and together with doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Pat we will learn to push the boundaries of our minds,

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<v Speaker 1>to think delusionally, and create fertile ground for our big

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<v Speaker 1>dreams to seed, grow, and manifest. Each episode, we will

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<v Speaker 1>gain more ability to think delusionally and cultivate beyond boundaries,

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<v Speaker 1>faith that we can accomplish dreams which seem unreachable. Shine

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<v Speaker 1>Delusion Shine is a springboard to believing, dreaming and thinking

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the ordinary, and a catalyst to living a more fulfilling,

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<v Speaker 1>destiny driven life. You were born with dreams, gifts, and

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<v Speaker 1>talents you are meant to use to make this world brighter.

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<v Speaker 1>Let your delusional dreams shine. It all starts now.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everybody, I'm doctor Pat. Thank you for joining us

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<v Speaker 2>on the show because this is a really important show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's extremely important in a lot of different ways. I

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<v Speaker 2>talked the other day about the influence doctor Gene Houston

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<v Speaker 2>had on me very early in my career, and so

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<v Speaker 2>early that I attended one of the first workshops she's

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<v Speaker 2>ever done on leadership, and had it not been for

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<v Speaker 2>that ten day event with her which I was not

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to, which me enabled. She enabled me

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<v Speaker 2>to go to it. Without the full charge of it,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think i'd be here today. Vicky Todd is

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<v Speaker 2>going to share with you how that dynamic energy works.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it mean when seeds get planted? What if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the middle of a life transition, what if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know you are today? Is called feel the

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<v Speaker 2>shift because whether you can cognitively think about it, whether

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<v Speaker 2>you can psychologically literally explain it, there's something that's going

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<v Speaker 2>on inside of you that's calling you forward. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>ready to honor it? Like Vicky Todd is doing. VICKI,

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<v Speaker 2>what a great topic, what a great show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thank you well, you know, as a memoir artist,

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<v Speaker 1>this topic came out of something that happened a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, so I thought I would share it.

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<v Speaker 1>But to start off, the painting behind me is called

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<v Speaker 1>Inner Beauty Blooming. And this is the first memoir art,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, visual memoir painting that I had done in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one, when I was smack dab in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a major life shift and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was two years divorced, had also begun my doctoral program

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. So two years into that and

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<v Speaker 1>I was two years away from graduation, had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>at the time where I would go, what my life

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<v Speaker 1>was going to look like. All I knew was after graduation,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to move. You can't stay here. And oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not receive super support from my family. My

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<v Speaker 1>mom literally looked at me when I finally came to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where I said I'm gonna move out of

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<v Speaker 1>Texas and she literally said, you must not love us anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like a dagger to my heart, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pull that one out. My dad was very heavy into

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<v Speaker 1>his alcoholism at the time, and he in a loving way,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it was just not the right solution.

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<v Speaker 1>He you know, in his Texas accent, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>really drunk at that time, and he just slurred out, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to do this, VICKI stay here. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take care of you. I appreciate that, Dad, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the solution. And my brother also said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you really took the wind out of Daddy's sales, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said that you're moving out of state. Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me at that time, right in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of that transition, it was so itchy and scratchy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't there were so many question marks, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know the answers. But all I knew was you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot stay here and you cannot go back. So a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago, you know, it was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those nights when you're in a deep sleep, just dead sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and you wake up and you're wide away. And usually

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<v Speaker 1>in those times, not every time, but I find that

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<v Speaker 1>usually in those times, somebody out there wants to say something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, God, Universe, an ancestor or something. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I sat up in bed and just listened. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I heard so clearly in my mind was your life

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<v Speaker 1>is evolving again. You cannot go back. And that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I heard. And I sat there and thought about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh my gosh, you were back in

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<v Speaker 1>this inner, beauty, blooming transition again. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>is so awesome. When God the Universe prepares us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the first one was in two thousand and one, and

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<v Speaker 1>here we are in twenty twenty six, prepares us through

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<v Speaker 1>previous transitions, through previous experiences that we can draw upon

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<v Speaker 1>and use that experience in wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Yeah, yeah, but you know, before the break, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>before we came on, I commented you on your new book,

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<v Speaker 2>your upcoming book, and I really wanted to point out

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<v Speaker 2>to you the courage. See, you know, we don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that a lot, but the courage it takes to

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<v Speaker 2>really step fully into oneself. Now, when my dad did

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<v Speaker 2>that to me about moving to Florida, I looked at

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<v Speaker 2>my dad and I said, the reality is, I'll always

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<v Speaker 2>love you, but I do not like Florida. End of

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<v Speaker 2>the story, not going. Nothing you can do. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>New York girl. It ain't happen any dad, and he

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<v Speaker 2>just laughed. But those moments are what I call speak

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<v Speaker 2>out moments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Writing a book is a gigantic speakout moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I thank you for saying that, because there

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<v Speaker 1>were many times over the past year, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>now into a few months that I thought, Wow, you're

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<v Speaker 1>really exposing yourself with some things. You know, some things

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<v Speaker 1>about me personally. Because I always had alcohol issues as well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I could have gone down the same

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<v Speaker 1>path as my dad, and thank God, by the grace

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<v Speaker 1>of God, I have not done that. But I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're telling things that do you really want

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<v Speaker 1>people to know that about you. But I thought, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what this is the whole thing has meant to

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<v Speaker 1>help people. You know, it's hard to call my mom

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<v Speaker 1>an abuser. That's a hard word for me to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she was emotionally and verbally abusing me during

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<v Speaker 1>some of these times. And so but you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't speak it out and it's not in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>then the book is not going to have the power

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<v Speaker 1>to reach out and help others. So it does take

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<v Speaker 1>courage to do that, and it takes a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerability to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does. And you know part of this too

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<v Speaker 2>is the energy of showing up the way you're showing

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<v Speaker 2>up to day, not just through the book. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you show up from the first time we did our

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<v Speaker 2>first show together. I love that breakthrough show because what

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<v Speaker 2>we did was I said to you, Vicky, won't you

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<v Speaker 2>come on and like paint during the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that I was in the books because

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I literally said, because it really shook me

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<v Speaker 1>when you said, you know, why don't you do something

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<v Speaker 1>live with artwork live on the show? And I literally said, hell, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And then I think it was Linda said

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you should check why you have such a strong

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to this. And I was like, Okay, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it was my fear, like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to look like a fraud. You can't paint

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<v Speaker 1>in front of people because I'd never done that before.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did it, and guess what, it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a blast. I mean, and that talks to

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about here about spiders. Now, spider happens

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<v Speaker 2>to be one of my totem, but until I prepared

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<v Speaker 2>for this show, I had no idea what you're about

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<v Speaker 2>to share with people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've heard that most spiders are, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>all their eyes, they are basically blind. So you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do we have all these eyes if you're blind?

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<v Speaker 1>But basically, you know, all the hair on their legs

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<v Speaker 1>and body, that's what they used to feel vibrations in

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<v Speaker 1>their web And I thought, this is exactly the same

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<v Speaker 1>things when they're in the middle of a life transition,

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<v Speaker 1>you're basically blind. You know, the future is fuzzy, it's

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<v Speaker 1>fogged over. You can't see the specifics of where you're going,

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<v Speaker 1>how to get there, what's going to happen along the way,

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<v Speaker 1>And after you pass that mark, and so we really

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<v Speaker 1>have to be like that spider and feel out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be very perceptive to our intuition. You know, what is God,

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<v Speaker 1>the universe or higher power trying to tell us, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's such valuable information and it's small, quiet voice information,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not shouting at you information. And to allow that

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<v Speaker 1>to break through all the loud outside voices, that is

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge tool to use to make your way

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<v Speaker 1>through the next part of this transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, let's go through this because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>part of the conversation today and part of the message

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<v Speaker 2>today is really to look at what happens when we

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<v Speaker 2>do have that spider courage, when we do have the

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<v Speaker 2>tentacles or they probably not call that, but when we

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<v Speaker 2>do have the sensitivity to feel the vibrations. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>spiders rely on that for clarity. Then they have to decide,

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<v Speaker 2>am I going to move forward and get that little fly?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>You understand what I'm saying. Yeah, And if I don't,

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<v Speaker 2>the consequences I'm basically not going to live. So talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this in terms of your journey with the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I love this analogy because and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>reading a lot you know, with we're in the fire

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<v Speaker 1>horse here, we just solstice. I keep seeing these things

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<v Speaker 1>about certain timelines that started like in twenty twenty or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, that are ending now. And I read one

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing. I was like, yes, it said, you are

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<v Speaker 1>in the place where in your adult life the most

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<v Speaker 1>difficult emotional trials have now passed. Oh really, Oh great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not quite seeing the outcome of that on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side. But this is part of this transition. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I keep reading that all of this energy is

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<v Speaker 1>asking us to participate in some way toward pulling our

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<v Speaker 1>dreams in And like you said, you know, confidence, creativity, clarity,

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<v Speaker 1>all that happens when we start, you know, using our

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<v Speaker 1>spidy sense and using that vibration, that intuition to take

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<v Speaker 1>the next step, the next movement. And it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be this huge life changing leap, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>a huge, huge leap into the unknown. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>one small step. But I also read yesterday it could

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<v Speaker 1>just be as simple as creating space in your mind

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I am sensing that a transition is here,

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<v Speaker 1>something big is coming, My life is evolving. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>go back, So I'm going to create space in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind to say I welcome you. I'm preparing space for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who you are yet or what this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be, but you are welcome and I

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<v Speaker 1>love that so much. So, you know, just taking the

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<v Speaker 1>participation thing in saying I'm not going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>a spider and just say, oh, something's going on. And

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<v Speaker 1>they don't just sit there like you said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to that fly and wrap them up and oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's my lunch. But how can we say I feel

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<v Speaker 1>this very intently, I'm sensing it very intently. What's a

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<v Speaker 1>good step that I can take and that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to help us to move forward?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, part of this, though, is the reason

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<v Speaker 2>that's become so authentic, Vicky, is because what you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about you're going through. And I think this is the

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<v Speaker 2>most important part when we talk about leadership, when we

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<v Speaker 2>your fears, but as the artwork or a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrating that it isn't the fear that stops us, it's

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<v Speaker 2>and not know or trust that it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh I love that. It is so true. And

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<v Speaker 1>here when the book is published, to go you know

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<v Speaker 1>if I've had my nose to the grindstone, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of made me lift my head up and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there is life after this, and it will come eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>But the caveat here, especially for type A people like me,

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot get into that thing of striving, striving, striving

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<v Speaker 1>all of these actions and get out of alignment with

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<v Speaker 1>my higher power. And I call that baby Bear Porridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the three bears. One was too old, one was

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<v Speaker 1>too hot, baby Bear Porridge was just right. And so

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<v Speaker 1>to take this action, but it has to be aligned,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is a lesson that I have learned, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm getting better at that. Because if you strive, strive, strive,

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<v Speaker 1>you're wasting your time, and I truly believe that sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>God the universe will say, oh, you think you got this,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, there's one thing I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about regarding this journey, and it's something I shared

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<v Speaker 2>with you before the show about myself and what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to change personally for me. And I think you

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<v Speaker 2>think that's one of the things you say this in

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<v Speaker 2>the show today. But what I'm strapped by for myself

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm getting ready to unleash an article about something

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<v Speaker 2>that I've observed which I've been very quiet about, and

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<v Speaker 2>the consequences of not speaking out or sharing a story

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<v Speaker 2>for me personally in the role I'm in in this lifetime,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually an injustice to the people that really need

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<v Speaker 2>our help. So underneath all of this, what you're serving

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<v Speaker 2>up is an actor. You're serving up a remedy for

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<v Speaker 2>see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh, you know we have talked about that. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to speak it out. Loud to call things in. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day I heard a different angle on that

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<v Speaker 1>that just really stopped me in my tracks because it said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you stay silent, you're basically surrendering your dream, and

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<v Speaker 1>not in a good way surrender, but basically you're giving

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<v Speaker 1>up on it. So yemp, I don't need it. It's dead.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that it is so important even if

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<v Speaker 1>we can't see the outcome, it's still fuzzy, is still vague.

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<v Speaker 1>Say you know what, God, Universe, this is what I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard you say to me. You know, this is part

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<v Speaker 1>of my destiny project to write this book. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>legacy project for me. I have no idea where we're

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<v Speaker 1>going with this, but I can sense, I can feel

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<v Speaker 1>that you're doing something new, God, and so I am

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<v Speaker 1>making room for that. And so my prayer is, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you God, you are breathing on my book. You are

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<v Speaker 1>multiplying it just like those loaves and fishes and using

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<v Speaker 1>it to feed the world. I don't know how that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's gonna be yet, but that's not up to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The how is up to God. And also, when you

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<v Speaker 1>face these really big, seemingly big mountains in your path

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<v Speaker 1>along this transition. Thank you for turning this huge seaming

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<v Speaker 1>mountain into a flat, easy molehill. And so just taking

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<v Speaker 1>the process of saying that out loud and thanking God,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking the universe along the way. That's not super specific.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, use whatever He's planted in your heart and

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<v Speaker 1>use those specifics, but you know, just speaking that out

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<v Speaker 1>loud over and over and praising along with it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard when you praise, your raise and you can

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<v Speaker 1>And so I am seeing because I've gotten so much

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<v Speaker 1>better at this in the past few years. And so

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<v Speaker 1>in this process, when it's so uncertain, it's so vague,

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<v Speaker 1>like nervous about everything. When I stop and start that

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<v Speaker 1>process of thinking, repeating, praising, that has helped move me forward.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's so interesting they're talking about that, because

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing is we're going to talk about plant

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<v Speaker 2>the seed for someone else to help your dream move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this because I don't know about you, but

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<v Speaker 2>first half of my life was the only thing I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to say is just not going to be really

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<v Speaker 2>anything any better. I wants to hear and certainly it's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be like kind enough to really transform anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But I learned from that, and alcoholism is part of

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<v Speaker 2>my journey, not anymore. But what I love about this

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<v Speaker 2>is I love planting seeds to help other people create

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<v Speaker 2>their vision. I didn't know that that that's what. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>some people have these lofty goals. I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>my tombstone. That's the seed plan She was a common

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<v Speaker 2>seed planner because seed planners go humbly about their business.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about it. The people that plant the seeds hardly

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I kind of think of it like teaching, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah it was. I talked for seventeen years and

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<v Speaker 1>and say, you know what, you really changed my life

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<v Speaker 1>because of blah blah blah. You know. So it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like you keep putting it out and you may

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<v Speaker 1>not hear back from it, but it is so important

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<v Speaker 2>It's a part of that Well, you just did it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you had an experience he reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>So much God, so it was so specific, and so

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<v Speaker 1>this is why I wanted to share it. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is a karmic thing. It's a cosmic thing, is actually

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<v Speaker 1>someone else and help them fulfill their dream, that is

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<v Speaker 1>giving you more power behind your dreams, more favor or

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<v Speaker 1>more resources, more oomph. And so I was looking through

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<v Speaker 1>here friends on Facebook, but I really don't know her.

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<v Speaker 1>And she has also just written a book and hers

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<v Speaker 1>is already published, and she was saying in a post

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<v Speaker 1>that she would love to get it into somebody's hands

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<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood, so it would go beyond the pages and

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<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood bubble. And I thought, well you should I well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it. I heard in my mind very

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<v Speaker 1>clearly tell her about Voyage Media. And of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that came to my mind was the fear ego, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do that, that's your dream. Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>go tell her? And I thought, delete that, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a competition thing, right, And so I messaged

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<v Speaker 1>her and I said, well, I've heard of this company

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit strange because we don't know each

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<v Speaker 1>did with that information. That doesn't matter what when you

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that you planted the seed. And followed that intuition. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>literally two or three days later, two super things happened. One,

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<v Speaker 1>my book, because we had been going through, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I got literally a letter from the editor

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<v Speaker 1>from the lady who's editing my book, and my publisher

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<v Speaker 1>actually said we don't usually do this, but in your case,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, since my book is a little bit different

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<v Speaker 1>that it goes from reality information to you know, ancestral

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mystical world. And so this lady, who I've

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<v Speaker 1>never met before editor sent me this two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half page beautiful letter. What she described is exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>my higher power. They will not change the substance of

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<v Speaker 1>your book. That is solid, that is great. It's only

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<v Speaker 1>only going to be surface level changes punctuation, formatting. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, whoa god is getting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's unheard of. That's actually unheard of. I mean I understand, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>It was eighty thousand pages plus.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm trying to say. It's like usually when

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, that's I know the process really well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing it. Yeah, I never finished the book,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was just like, I can't go through it,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm supposed to get the edits today or tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>And I met with my publisher yesterday and she actually said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be easier than what you think, VICKI.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the next thing that I've been hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the process of Okay, God, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>you said. Thank you that you said that, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm expecting, think you, thank you, thank you, and

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<v Speaker 1>saying it out loud, and it is freaking manifesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I want you to talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of this, especially the cover because we went through

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<v Speaker 2>this with one of our hosts which I won't name.

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<v Speaker 2>Book is fabulous, but the battle to get what she

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<v Speaker 2>wanted on the cover, even the title of the book,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a battle. And the straw that broke all

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<v Speaker 2>of our backs was when they put this amazing book

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<v Speaker 2>into audio form and wouldn't let her use her voice.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh my gosh, you should hear the audio. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to mention who the book is. Because

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<v Speaker 2>the book is phenomenal. We help her get into the

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<v Speaker 2>bestsellers list. However, the battle to get it there. We

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<v Speaker 2>all looked at each other and said, now we know

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<v Speaker 2>how to negotiate contracts with publishers. But think about this.

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<v Speaker 2>You are in an artists. Can you imagine them saying

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<v Speaker 2>to you, no way, honey, we're going to use anything

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<v Speaker 2>you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I would be like bye, see yah for me,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know I do It's not this painting, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do have, you know, a painting that's on the

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<v Speaker 1>cover and the title. You know, we kind of went

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth with it, but it's something that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very comfortable with. And I can't believe he said the audiobook,

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<v Speaker 1>because when I met with my publisher yesterday, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could do an audio book, and so

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<v Speaker 1>she is going to check around Santa Fe, Albuquerque to

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<v Speaker 1>see what studios there are and get a price quote exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But can you imagine? I mean, this is like even

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<v Speaker 2>my co host for Tonight, who is you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>world renowned for what he does, didn't get to do

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<v Speaker 2>the book in his voice. Now, these people took it

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<v Speaker 2>into their own hands. They did their own version of

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<v Speaker 2>the audio book and did it without violating contract. But

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<v Speaker 2>your story isn't about that. Your story is about publishers

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<v Speaker 2>that don't usually do this, and they did it because

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<v Speaker 2>of what you called.

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<v Speaker 1>In yes, And the reason that I'm with this publisher

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<v Speaker 1>was also another one of those seemingly oh, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>a coincidence, but we both know it's not. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a divinely led thing because I went to via zoom,

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<v Speaker 1>a writing workshop and one day workshop with my writing mentor,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was the only one who showed up. It

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<v Speaker 1>was me and the mentor all day, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>had time to talk and she said, have you found

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<v Speaker 1>a publisher yet? And I said no, And she said,

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<v Speaker 1>have you thought about this person? Go check them out?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the reason I have my publisher. And we

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<v Speaker 1>have just really yelled. And so that's that spidey sense

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<v Speaker 1>of using your intuition, tapping into it and saying is

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<v Speaker 1>this the right person for me? Yes it is, or

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<v Speaker 1>no it's not, and going with that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I wish the world would get the message

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<v Speaker 2>about intuition, now, do you know what I mean? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about it. I think this is even like

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<v Speaker 2>a movie coming out called Lucky. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what that's about, but we talk about it, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet we don't recognize how often we rely on it

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<v Speaker 2>and don't give it any credit.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't use your rational mind because intuition tied

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<v Speaker 1>to your higher power usually is not going to make

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<v Speaker 1>sense to the rational mind. And I think that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard for some people, is well, no, that can

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<v Speaker 1>never happen. Maybe it could, so check into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this is a great show. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know what you're closing messages. It's more to come

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<v Speaker 2>from you. We're not done with this. Oh what do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to leave us with? Here? Because it pains

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<v Speaker 2>me to see dreams untouched. I've had more calls this

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<v Speaker 2>week with people that were afraid to take the next step,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course where I sit, I don't encourage them

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<v Speaker 2>to do that in the role I have with them,

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<v Speaker 2>but it hurts my heart because I know what could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you want to leave us today?

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<v Speaker 1>My main message because I'm right here with you. Whoever

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<v Speaker 1>is out there listening, I'm right here with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>am in the middle of this fuzzy, foggy transition. It

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<v Speaker 1>drives me crazy to have so many question marks around me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been through a cycle of emotions with this

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<v Speaker 1>whole process. Do not give up in the middle. You're

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a miracle and So if you

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<v Speaker 1>really open up your mind, your heart, your spirit and

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<v Speaker 1>hear that intuition tapping into your higher power, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out. Maybe it's a little step by little step,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're going to figure it out. So do not

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<v Speaker 1>give up, because your dream needs to grow. We need

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<v Speaker 1>what you have to offer.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, Thank you so much. How do people

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<v Speaker 2>find out about you? Vicky?

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<v Speaker 1>My book website is Shinehappy Shine dot com. You can

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<v Speaker 1>go sign up for my email lists to learn about

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<v Speaker 1>the publication date. I have an art raffle going. Art

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<v Speaker 1>website is Vickiworld Art dot com. I'm on Facebook and

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram at Vikiworld Art. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you out there, Vicky and I are

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<v Speaker 2>here because we did understand the power planting a seed,

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<v Speaker 2>but we also now understand the power of harvesting fun

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<v Speaker 2>that seed. We'll see you all next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you for listening to Shine, Delusion, Shine

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<v Speaker 1>the Radical art of Dreaming beyond boundaries. I am Vicki

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<v Speaker 1>Todd with doctor Pat Tune in with us each fourth

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday at eleven am Pacific on Transformation Talk Radio for

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<v Speaker 1>more simple, repeatable habits to identify the dreams, gifts, and

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<v Speaker 1>talents you were born with. Expand your mind and believe

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<v Speaker 1>your dreams can become a reality. We invite you to

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<v Speaker 1>tap into the flow of the delusional realm with us

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<v Speaker 1>to make this world brighter. For more information on living

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<v Speaker 1>a more fulfilling, destiny driven life, and to connect with

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<v Speaker 1>Mevius it Vicki worldart dot com.
