Speaker 1: Welcome to Shine Delusion Shine, the radical art of dreaming
Speaker 1: beyond boundaries. I am Vicky Todd, and together with doctor
Speaker 1: Pat we will learn to push the boundaries of our minds,
Speaker 1: to think delusionally, and create fertile ground for our big
Speaker 1: dreams to seed, grow, and manifest. Each episode, we will
Speaker 1: gain more ability to think delusionally and cultivate beyond boundaries,
Speaker 1: faith that we can accomplish dreams which seem unreachable. Shine
Speaker 1: Delusion Shine is a springboard to believing, dreaming and thinking
Speaker 1: beyond the ordinary, and a catalyst to living a more fulfilling,
Speaker 1: destiny driven life. You were born with dreams, gifts, and
Speaker 1: talents you are meant to use to make this world brighter.
Speaker 1: Let your delusional dreams shine. It all starts now.
Speaker 2: Hey everybody, I'm doctor Pat. Thank you for joining us
Speaker 2: on the show because this is a really important show.
Speaker 2: It's extremely important in a lot of different ways. I
Speaker 2: talked the other day about the influence doctor Gene Houston
Speaker 2: had on me very early in my career, and so
Speaker 2: early that I attended one of the first workshops she's
Speaker 2: ever done on leadership, and had it not been for
Speaker 2: that ten day event with her which I was not
Speaker 2: going to go to, which me enabled. She enabled me
Speaker 2: to go to it. Without the full charge of it,
Speaker 2: I don't think i'd be here today. Vicky Todd is
Speaker 2: going to share with you how that dynamic energy works.
Speaker 2: What does it mean when seeds get planted? What if
Speaker 2: you're in the middle of a life transition, what if
Speaker 2: you don't know you are today? Is called feel the
Speaker 2: shift because whether you can cognitively think about it, whether
Speaker 2: you can psychologically literally explain it, there's something that's going
Speaker 2: on inside of you that's calling you forward. Are you
Speaker 2: ready to honor it? Like Vicky Todd is doing. VICKI,
Speaker 2: what a great topic, what a great show.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you well, you know, as a memoir artist,
Speaker 1: this topic came out of something that happened a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, so I thought I would share it.
Speaker 1: But to start off, the painting behind me is called
Speaker 1: Inner Beauty Blooming. And this is the first memoir art,
Speaker 1: you know, visual memoir painting that I had done in
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, when I was smack dab in
Speaker 1: the middle of a major life shift and so I
Speaker 1: was two years divorced, had also begun my doctoral program
Speaker 1: at the same time. So two years into that and
Speaker 1: I was two years away from graduation, had no idea
Speaker 1: at the time where I would go, what my life
Speaker 1: was going to look like. All I knew was after graduation,
Speaker 1: you have to move. You can't stay here. And oh.
Speaker 1: I did not receive super support from my family. My
Speaker 1: mom literally looked at me when I finally came to
Speaker 1: the point where I said I'm gonna move out of
Speaker 1: Texas and she literally said, you must not love us anymore.
Speaker 1: And it was like a dagger to my heart, you know,
Speaker 1: pull that one out. My dad was very heavy into
Speaker 1: his alcoholism at the time, and he in a loving way,
Speaker 1: but you know, it was just not the right solution.
Speaker 1: He you know, in his Texas accent, and he was
Speaker 1: really drunk at that time, and he just slurred out, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you don't have to do this, VICKI stay here. I'll
Speaker 1: take care of you. I appreciate that, Dad, but you know,
Speaker 1: that's not the solution. And my brother also said, you know,
Speaker 1: you really took the wind out of Daddy's sales, and
Speaker 1: he said that you're moving out of state. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: So for me at that time, right in the middle
Speaker 1: of that transition, it was so itchy and scratchy, and
Speaker 1: I didn't there were so many question marks, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know the answers. But all I knew was you
Speaker 1: cannot stay here and you cannot go back. So a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, you know, it was one of
Speaker 1: those nights when you're in a deep sleep, just dead sleep,
Speaker 1: and you wake up and you're wide away. And usually
Speaker 1: in those times, not every time, but I find that
Speaker 1: usually in those times, somebody out there wants to say something,
Speaker 1: you know, God, Universe, an ancestor or something. And so
Speaker 1: I sat up in bed and just listened. And what
Speaker 1: I heard so clearly in my mind was your life
Speaker 1: is evolving again. You cannot go back. And that's all
Speaker 1: I heard. And I sat there and thought about it,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh my gosh, you were back in
Speaker 1: this inner, beauty, blooming transition again. So I think that
Speaker 1: is so awesome. When God the Universe prepares us, you know,
Speaker 1: the first one was in two thousand and one, and
Speaker 1: here we are in twenty twenty six, prepares us through
Speaker 1: previous transitions, through previous experiences that we can draw upon
Speaker 1: and use that experience in wisdom.
Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, yeah, but you know, before the break, excuse me,
Speaker 2: before we came on, I commented you on your new book,
Speaker 2: your upcoming book, and I really wanted to point out
Speaker 2: to you the courage. See, you know, we don't talk
Speaker 2: about that a lot, but the courage it takes to
Speaker 2: really step fully into oneself. Now, when my dad did
Speaker 2: that to me about moving to Florida, I looked at
Speaker 2: my dad and I said, the reality is, I'll always
Speaker 2: love you, but I do not like Florida. End of
Speaker 2: the story, not going. Nothing you can do. I'm a
Speaker 2: New York girl. It ain't happen any dad, and he
Speaker 2: just laughed. But those moments are what I call speak
Speaker 2: out moments.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Writing a book is a gigantic speakout moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I thank you for saying that, because there
Speaker 1: were many times over the past year, and you know,
Speaker 1: now into a few months that I thought, Wow, you're
Speaker 1: really exposing yourself with some things. You know, some things
Speaker 1: about me personally. Because I always had alcohol issues as well,
Speaker 1: I think that I could have gone down the same
Speaker 1: path as my dad, and thank God, by the grace
Speaker 1: of God, I have not done that. But I thought, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, you're telling things that do you really want
Speaker 1: people to know that about you. But I thought, you
Speaker 1: know what this is the whole thing has meant to
Speaker 1: help people. You know, it's hard to call my mom
Speaker 1: an abuser. That's a hard word for me to say that.
Speaker 1: You know, she was emotionally and verbally abusing me during
Speaker 1: some of these times. And so but you know, if
Speaker 1: I don't speak it out and it's not in the book,
Speaker 1: then the book is not going to have the power
Speaker 1: to reach out and help others. So it does take
Speaker 1: courage to do that, and it takes a lot of
Speaker 1: vulnerability to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. And you know part of this too
Speaker 2: is the energy of showing up the way you're showing
Speaker 2: up to day, not just through the book. I mean
Speaker 2: you show up from the first time we did our
Speaker 2: first show together. I love that breakthrough show because what
Speaker 2: we did was I said to you, Vicky, won't you
Speaker 2: come on and like paint during the show?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that I was in the books because
Speaker 1: I said, I literally said, because it really shook me
Speaker 1: when you said, you know, why don't you do something
Speaker 1: live with artwork live on the show? And I literally said, hell, no,
Speaker 1: I know. And then I think it was Linda said
Speaker 1: maybe you should check why you have such a strong
Speaker 1: reaction to this. And I was like, Okay, you're right,
Speaker 1: but you know, it was my fear, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you're going to look like a fraud. You can't paint
Speaker 1: in front of people because I'd never done that before.
Speaker 1: But I did it, and guess what, it was great.
Speaker 2: We had a blast. I mean, and that talks to
Speaker 2: what you're talking about here about spiders. Now, spider happens
Speaker 2: to be one of my totem, but until I prepared
Speaker 2: for this show, I had no idea what you're about
Speaker 2: to share with people.
Speaker 1: Well, I've heard that most spiders are, you know, with
Speaker 1: all their eyes, they are basically blind. So you know, like,
Speaker 1: why do we have all these eyes if you're blind?
Speaker 1: But basically, you know, all the hair on their legs
Speaker 1: and body, that's what they used to feel vibrations in
Speaker 1: their web And I thought, this is exactly the same
Speaker 1: things when they're in the middle of a life transition,
Speaker 1: you're basically blind. You know, the future is fuzzy, it's
Speaker 1: fogged over. You can't see the specifics of where you're going,
Speaker 1: how to get there, what's going to happen along the way,
Speaker 1: And after you pass that mark, and so we really
Speaker 1: have to be like that spider and feel out, you know,
Speaker 1: be very perceptive to our intuition. You know, what is God,
Speaker 1: the universe or higher power trying to tell us, because
Speaker 1: that's such valuable information and it's small, quiet voice information,
Speaker 1: it's not shouting at you information. And to allow that
Speaker 1: to break through all the loud outside voices, that is
Speaker 1: such a huge tool to use to make your way
Speaker 1: through the next part of this transition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, let's go through this because you know,
Speaker 2: part of the conversation today and part of the message
Speaker 2: today is really to look at what happens when we
Speaker 2: do have that spider courage, when we do have the
Speaker 2: tentacles or they probably not call that, but when we
Speaker 2: do have the sensitivity to feel the vibrations. You know,
Speaker 2: spiders rely on that for clarity. Then they have to decide,
Speaker 2: am I going to move forward and get that little fly?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying. Yeah, And if I don't,
Speaker 2: the consequences I'm basically not going to live. So talk
Speaker 2: about this in terms of your journey with the book.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I love this analogy because and I've been
Speaker 1: reading a lot you know, with we're in the fire
Speaker 1: horse here, we just solstice. I keep seeing these things
Speaker 1: about certain timelines that started like in twenty twenty or
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, that are ending now. And I read one
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. I was like, yes, it said, you are
Speaker 1: in the place where in your adult life the most
Speaker 1: difficult emotional trials have now passed. Oh really, Oh great.
Speaker 1: I'm not quite seeing the outcome of that on the
Speaker 1: other side. But this is part of this transition. And
Speaker 1: so I keep reading that all of this energy is
Speaker 1: asking us to participate in some way toward pulling our
Speaker 1: dreams in And like you said, you know, confidence, creativity, clarity,
Speaker 1: all that happens when we start, you know, using our
Speaker 1: spidy sense and using that vibration, that intuition to take
Speaker 1: the next step, the next movement. And it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be this huge life changing leap, you know, just
Speaker 1: a huge, huge leap into the unknown. It could be
Speaker 1: one small step. But I also read yesterday it could
Speaker 1: just be as simple as creating space in your mind
Speaker 1: to say, I am sensing that a transition is here,
Speaker 1: something big is coming, My life is evolving. I cannot
Speaker 1: go back, So I'm going to create space in my
Speaker 1: mind to say I welcome you. I'm preparing space for you.
Speaker 1: I don't know who you are yet or what this
Speaker 1: is going to be, but you are welcome and I
Speaker 1: love that so much. So, you know, just taking the
Speaker 1: participation thing in saying I'm not going to be like
Speaker 1: a spider and just say, oh, something's going on. And
Speaker 1: they don't just sit there like you said, you know,
Speaker 1: they go to that fly and wrap them up and oh,
Speaker 1: there's my lunch. But how can we say I feel
Speaker 1: this very intently, I'm sensing it very intently. What's a
Speaker 1: good step that I can take and that is going
Speaker 1: to help us to move forward?
Speaker 2: And you know, part of this, though, is the reason
Speaker 2: that's become so authentic, Vicky, is because what you're talking
Speaker 2: about you're going through. And I think this is the
Speaker 2: most important part when we talk about leadership, when we
Speaker 2: talk about how to influence others. You know, it's extremely
Speaker 2: difficult sometimes to really talk to an audience when you
Speaker 2: haven't been to that place yourself. But not only are
Speaker 2: you writing the book, not only are you passing through
Speaker 2: your fears, but as the artwork or a piece of
Speaker 2: art behind you in the show, what you're doing is
Speaker 2: demonstrating that it isn't the fear that stops us, it's
Speaker 2: the shadow sense of who we're afraid to become. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and not know or trust that it's going to be
Speaker 2: amazing and magnificent. And you set it up right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh I love that. It is so true. And
Speaker 1: you know part of this is for me. I can
Speaker 1: be very type a personality, and I've gotten much better.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going through this journey of life. But
Speaker 1: you know, I was having an interview with a writing
Speaker 1: mentor the other day about the book, and you know,
Speaker 1: one of the big question marks that's driving me crazy
Speaker 1: because the first thing everybody asks, oh, is it going
Speaker 1: to be published? I don't know yet, sometime in the fall,
Speaker 1: and so you know she's going to wait to hear
Speaker 1: from me to post this interview. But afterward it was
Speaker 1: just she and I went on one and she started
Speaker 1: naming out because she used toill live here in Santa Fe,
Speaker 1: and she said, you should try here and here and
Speaker 1: here when the book is published, to go you know
Speaker 1: book book talks, you know, scheduled book talks. And it
Speaker 1: kind of made me lift my head up. You know,
Speaker 1: if I've had my nose to the grindstone, and you know,
Speaker 1: on kind of this fear thought of oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: how is this going to work out? And she kind
Speaker 1: of made me lift my head up and say, oh,
Speaker 1: there is life after this, and it will come eventually.
Speaker 1: But the caveat here, especially for type A people like me,
Speaker 1: I cannot get into that thing of striving, striving, striving
Speaker 1: that I'm going to force this to happen and take
Speaker 1: all of these actions and get out of alignment with
Speaker 1: my higher power. And I call that baby Bear Porridge.
Speaker 1: Remember the three bears. One was too old, one was
Speaker 1: too hot, baby Bear Porridge was just right. And so
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, God, Universe is wanting us
Speaker 1: to take this action, but it has to be aligned,
Speaker 1: you know, with our divine purpose, aligned to our higher power,
Speaker 1: and not just be doing stuff just for the heck
Speaker 1: of it. That I'm going to force this in. And
Speaker 1: so that is a lesson that I have learned, and
Speaker 1: I hope I'm getting better at that. Because if you strive, strive, strive,
Speaker 1: and keep doing all these things that are not the
Speaker 1: right path, it's not the right focus. You're wasting your energy,
Speaker 1: you're wasting your time, and I truly believe that sometimes
Speaker 1: God the universe will say, oh, you think you got this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit back and let you take it. I
Speaker 1: don't want that. I want the supernatural favor and health.
Speaker 1: So baby Bear Porridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's one thing I want you to
Speaker 2: talk about regarding this journey, and it's something I shared
Speaker 2: with you before the show about myself and what I'm
Speaker 2: going to change personally for me. And I think you
Speaker 2: talk about speak out and call in supernatural favor. I
Speaker 2: think that's one of the things you say this in
Speaker 2: the show today. But what I'm strapped by for myself
Speaker 2: and I'm getting ready to unleash an article about something
Speaker 2: that I've observed which I've been very quiet about, and
Speaker 2: the consequences of not speaking out or sharing a story
Speaker 2: for me personally in the role I'm in in this lifetime,
Speaker 2: it's actually an injustice to the people that really need
Speaker 2: our help. So underneath all of this, what you're serving
Speaker 2: up is an actor. You're serving up a remedy for
Speaker 2: people that may not know what to do next. You
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh, you know we have talked about that. You
Speaker 1: have to speak it out. Loud to call things in. Yes.
Speaker 1: The other day I heard a different angle on that
Speaker 1: that just really stopped me in my tracks because it said,
Speaker 1: if you stay silent, you're basically surrendering your dream, and
Speaker 1: not in a good way surrender, but basically you're giving
Speaker 1: up on it. So yemp, I don't need it. It's dead.
Speaker 1: So I think that it is so important even if
Speaker 1: we can't see the outcome, it's still fuzzy, is still vague.
Speaker 1: Say you know what, God, Universe, this is what I've
Speaker 1: heard you say to me. You know, this is part
Speaker 1: of my destiny project to write this book. It's a
Speaker 1: legacy project for me. I have no idea where we're
Speaker 1: going with this, but I can sense, I can feel
Speaker 1: that you're doing something new, God, and so I am
Speaker 1: making room for that. And so my prayer is, thank
Speaker 1: you God, you are breathing on my book. You are
Speaker 1: multiplying it just like those loaves and fishes and using
Speaker 1: it to feed the world. I don't know how that's
Speaker 1: what that's gonna be yet, but that's not up to me.
Speaker 1: The how is up to God. And also, when you
Speaker 1: face these really big, seemingly big mountains in your path
Speaker 1: along this transition. Thank you for turning this huge seaming
Speaker 1: mountain into a flat, easy molehill. And so just taking
Speaker 1: the process of saying that out loud and thanking God,
Speaker 1: thinking the universe along the way. That's not super specific.
Speaker 1: You know, use whatever He's planted in your heart and
Speaker 1: use those specifics, but you know, just speaking that out
Speaker 1: loud over and over and praising along with it. You know,
Speaker 1: I've heard when you praise, your raise and you can
Speaker 1: play and you remain and we want to move forward.
Speaker 1: And so I am seeing because I've gotten so much
Speaker 1: better at this in the past few years. And so
Speaker 1: in this process, when it's so uncertain, it's so vague,
Speaker 1: and I have all these question marks, I'm getting really
Speaker 1: like nervous about everything. When I stop and start that
Speaker 1: process of thinking, repeating, praising, that has helped move me forward.
Speaker 2: You know, it's so interesting they're talking about that, because
Speaker 2: what you're doing is we're going to talk about plant
Speaker 2: the seed for someone else to help your dream move forward.
Speaker 2: I love this because I don't know about you, but
Speaker 2: first half of my life was the only thing I'm
Speaker 2: going to say is just not going to be really
Speaker 2: anything any better. I wants to hear and certainly it's
Speaker 2: not going to be like kind enough to really transform anything.
Speaker 2: But I learned from that, and alcoholism is part of
Speaker 2: my journey, not anymore. But what I love about this
Speaker 2: is I love planting seeds to help other people create
Speaker 2: their vision. I didn't know that that that's what. Okay,
Speaker 2: some people have these lofty goals. I'm going to be
Speaker 2: a best So I'm a seed planner and I didn't
Speaker 2: know that that's maybe not it's going to be on
Speaker 2: my tombstone. That's the seed plan She was a common
Speaker 2: seed planner because seed planners go humbly about their business.
Speaker 2: Think about it. The people that plant the seeds hardly
Speaker 2: get noticed in the crop, you understand.
Speaker 1: Well, I kind of think of it like teaching, you know,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah it was. I talked for seventeen years and
Speaker 1: it was rare for a student to come to me
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, you really changed my life
Speaker 1: because of blah blah blah. You know. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of like you keep putting it out and you may
Speaker 1: not hear back from it, but it is so important
Speaker 1: to plant that seed.
Speaker 2: It's a part of that Well, you just did it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you had an experience he reached out to
Speaker 2: somebody on social media.
Speaker 1: So much God, so it was so specific, and so
Speaker 1: this is why I wanted to share it. But this
Speaker 1: is a karmic thing. It's a cosmic thing, is actually
Speaker 1: a scriptural thing that when you plant a seed for
Speaker 1: someone else and help them fulfill their dream, that is
Speaker 1: giving you more power behind your dreams, more favor or
Speaker 1: more resources, more oomph. And so I was looking through
Speaker 1: Facebook one day, and this was very recently, and I
Speaker 1: saw this lady who she's an acquaintance. You know, we
Speaker 1: here friends on Facebook, but I really don't know her.
Speaker 1: And she has also just written a book and hers
Speaker 1: is already published, and she was saying in a post
Speaker 1: that she would love to get it into somebody's hands
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, so it would go beyond the pages and
Speaker 1: on the screen. And you know, that's one of my
Speaker 1: dreams that I've mentioned. I've heard of this company called
Speaker 1: Voyage Media. Their whole thing is looking for stories outside
Speaker 1: the Hollywood bubble. And I thought, well you should I well,
Speaker 1: I didn't think it. I heard in my mind very
Speaker 1: clearly tell her about Voyage Media. And of course, the
Speaker 1: first thing that came to my mind was the fear ego, No,
Speaker 1: you can't do that, that's your dream. Why would you
Speaker 1: go tell her? And I thought, delete that, because you know,
Speaker 1: it's not a competition thing, right, And so I messaged
Speaker 1: her and I said, well, I've heard of this company
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about doing it when my book is
Speaker 1: published and I get my copyright, and so I just
Speaker 1: through it out there. I think that she thought I
Speaker 1: was a little bit strange because we don't know each
Speaker 1: other that well. But I have no idea what she
Speaker 1: did with that information. That doesn't matter what when you
Speaker 1: plant the seed, it doesn't matter what they do with it. It's
Speaker 1: the thing that you planted the seed. And followed that intuition. Well,
Speaker 1: literally two or three days later, two super things happened. One,
Speaker 1: I got the finalized visual of the book cover for
Speaker 1: my book, because we had been going through, you know,
Speaker 1: various different tweaks and edits with that and I finally
Speaker 1: got the one and I was like, yes, that is it.
Speaker 1: And then I got literally a letter from the editor
Speaker 1: from the lady who's editing my book, and my publisher
Speaker 1: actually said we don't usually do this, but in your case,
Speaker 1: you know, since my book is a little bit different
Speaker 1: that it goes from reality information to you know, ancestral
Speaker 1: kind of mystical world. And so this lady, who I've
Speaker 1: never met before editor sent me this two and a
Speaker 1: half page beautiful letter. What she described is exactly what
Speaker 1: I had heard in my mind via my intuition from
Speaker 1: my higher power. They will not change the substance of
Speaker 1: your book. That is solid, that is great. It's only
Speaker 1: only going to be surface level changes punctuation, formatting. And
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa god is getting.
Speaker 2: That's unheard of. That's actually unheard of. I mean I understand, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you submitted a manuscript.
Speaker 1: It was eighty thousand pages plus.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. It's like usually when
Speaker 2: that happens, they say, oh honey, you need an editor.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, that's I know the process really well.
Speaker 2: Because they lost me at the editor part. I was like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. Yeah, I never finished the book,
Speaker 2: but I was just like, I can't go through it,
Speaker 2: aren't you.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm supposed to get the edits today or tomorrow,
Speaker 1: and so now I'm like kind of excited to see him.
Speaker 1: And I met with my publisher yesterday and she actually said,
Speaker 1: it's going to be easier than what you think, VICKI.
Speaker 1: And that's the next thing that I've been hearing from
Speaker 1: my intuition. It's going to be easier and quicker than
Speaker 1: you think. So that mountain is becoming the molehill. And
Speaker 1: so that's the process of Okay, God, this is what
Speaker 1: you said. Thank you that you said that, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm expecting, think you, thank you, thank you, and
Speaker 1: saying it out loud, and it is freaking manifesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I want you to talk about the
Speaker 2: rest of this, especially the cover because we went through
Speaker 2: this with one of our hosts which I won't name.
Speaker 2: Book is fabulous, but the battle to get what she
Speaker 2: wanted on the cover, even the title of the book,
Speaker 2: it was a battle. And the straw that broke all
Speaker 2: of our backs was when they put this amazing book
Speaker 2: into audio form and wouldn't let her use her voice.
Speaker 2: And oh my gosh, you should hear the audio. And
Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention who the book is. Because
Speaker 2: the book is phenomenal. We help her get into the
Speaker 2: bestsellers list. However, the battle to get it there. We
Speaker 2: all looked at each other and said, now we know
Speaker 2: how to negotiate contracts with publishers. But think about this.
Speaker 2: You are in an artists. Can you imagine them saying
Speaker 2: to you, no way, honey, we're going to use anything
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I would be like bye, see yah for me,
Speaker 1: because you know I do It's not this painting, but
Speaker 1: I do have, you know, a painting that's on the
Speaker 1: cover and the title. You know, we kind of went
Speaker 1: back and forth with it, but it's something that I'm
Speaker 1: very comfortable with. And I can't believe he said the audiobook,
Speaker 1: because when I met with my publisher yesterday, she said,
Speaker 1: you know, you could do an audio book, and so
Speaker 1: she is going to check around Santa Fe, Albuquerque to
Speaker 1: see what studios there are and get a price quote exactly.
Speaker 2: But can you imagine? I mean, this is like even
Speaker 2: my co host for Tonight, who is you know, a
Speaker 2: world renowned for what he does, didn't get to do
Speaker 2: the book in his voice. Now, these people took it
Speaker 2: into their own hands. They did their own version of
Speaker 2: the audio book and did it without violating contract. But
Speaker 2: your story isn't about that. Your story is about publishers
Speaker 2: that don't usually do this, and they did it because
Speaker 2: of what you called.
Speaker 1: In yes, And the reason that I'm with this publisher
Speaker 1: was also another one of those seemingly oh, that's just
Speaker 1: a coincidence, but we both know it's not. It was
Speaker 1: a divinely led thing because I went to via zoom,
Speaker 1: a writing workshop and one day workshop with my writing mentor,
Speaker 1: and I was the only one who showed up. It
Speaker 1: was me and the mentor all day, and so we
Speaker 1: had time to talk and she said, have you found
Speaker 1: a publisher yet? And I said no, And she said,
Speaker 1: have you thought about this person? Go check them out?
Speaker 1: And that's the reason I have my publisher. And we
Speaker 1: have just really yelled. And so that's that spidey sense
Speaker 1: of using your intuition, tapping into it and saying is
Speaker 1: this the right person for me? Yes it is, or
Speaker 1: no it's not, and going with that.
Speaker 2: You know, I wish the world would get the message
Speaker 2: about intuition, now, do you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we talk about it. I think this is even like
Speaker 2: a movie coming out called Lucky. I don't even know
Speaker 2: what that's about, but we talk about it, right, and
Speaker 2: yet we don't recognize how often we rely on it
Speaker 2: and don't give it any credit.
Speaker 1: And you can't use your rational mind because intuition tied
Speaker 1: to your higher power usually is not going to make
Speaker 1: sense to the rational mind. And I think that's what's
Speaker 1: really hard for some people, is well, no, that can
Speaker 1: never happen. Maybe it could, so check into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is a great show. I want
Speaker 2: to know what you're closing messages. It's more to come
Speaker 2: from you. We're not done with this. Oh what do
Speaker 2: you want to leave us with? Here? Because it pains
Speaker 2: me to see dreams untouched. I've had more calls this
Speaker 2: week with people that were afraid to take the next step,
Speaker 2: and of course where I sit, I don't encourage them
Speaker 2: to do that in the role I have with them,
Speaker 2: but it hurts my heart because I know what could happen.
Speaker 2: How do you want to leave us today?
Speaker 1: My main message because I'm right here with you. Whoever
Speaker 1: is out there listening, I'm right here with you. I
Speaker 1: am in the middle of this fuzzy, foggy transition. It
Speaker 1: drives me crazy to have so many question marks around me,
Speaker 1: and I've been through a cycle of emotions with this
Speaker 1: whole process. Do not give up in the middle. You're
Speaker 1: in the middle of a miracle and So if you
Speaker 1: really open up your mind, your heart, your spirit and
Speaker 1: hear that intuition tapping into your higher power, you're going
Speaker 1: to figure out. Maybe it's a little step by little step,
Speaker 1: but you're going to figure it out. So do not
Speaker 1: give up, because your dream needs to grow. We need
Speaker 1: what you have to offer.
Speaker 2: I love it, Thank you so much. How do people
Speaker 2: find out about you? Vicky?
Speaker 1: My book website is Shinehappy Shine dot com. You can
Speaker 1: go sign up for my email lists to learn about
Speaker 1: the publication date. I have an art raffle going. Art
Speaker 1: website is Vickiworld Art dot com. I'm on Facebook and
Speaker 1: Instagram at Vikiworld Art. I love it.
Speaker 2: For those of you out there, Vicky and I are
Speaker 2: here because we did understand the power planting a seed,
Speaker 2: but we also now understand the power of harvesting fun
Speaker 2: that seed. We'll see you all next time.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for listening to Shine, Delusion, Shine
Speaker 1: the Radical art of Dreaming beyond boundaries. I am Vicki
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