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<v Speaker 1>This is Eye on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take part in the show. Call up

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<v Speaker 1>Steve now at five to two oh four one, six

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Island Ball here on Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver. Got to

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<v Speaker 2>time for people to call us here before we talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Doug in about eighteen minutes five two zero four

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<v Speaker 2>one six seventy four forty. Where do you think Carter

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<v Speaker 2>will end up? Will Caleb be picked? Well, have tomorrow show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're not in right. I got Blake coming

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<v Speaker 2>and tomorrow we'll talk a lot about that. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try to reach out to a former GM

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<v Speaker 2>at the NBA level to talk about tomorrow show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, the draft starts, I guess at five

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<v Speaker 3>o'clock our time. So just as you're wrapping things up,

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<v Speaker 3>it's o'clock. It's a one hundred to one. Uh mister,

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<v Speaker 3>what Cooper flag? Cooper flag will be number one. That's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty obvious. Yeah, but yeah, got some trades going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Celtics dealing away Chris STAPs perzingis just a few minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 3>So teams are making some last minute moves to clear

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<v Speaker 3>out some salary. The Pelicans traded CJ. McCollum earlier to

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<v Speaker 3>the Wizards. So yeah, teams are, like I said, trying

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<v Speaker 3>to clear things up and get ready to start adding

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<v Speaker 3>some young players their rosters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, Yeah, we'll see what happens. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff going on, a lot of movement here the next

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean even tomorrow, especially like we have a trade,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as the guys are coming up, it will

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<v Speaker 3>always be that kind of thing going on as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll see what happens. I just texted my buddy

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<v Speaker 2>to one of the former gms in the league. See

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<v Speaker 2>if you can come on tomorrow for like ten fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll talk about all that stuff. We'll see what happens. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else we got to Caleb? We have in I

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<v Speaker 2>was googling stuff, but yesterday and I was or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, and I don't know why looking at Treer.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't google Treer.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know Kobe Simmons remember him, Yeah, he he

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<v Speaker 2>He had some time in the NBA every now and

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<v Speaker 2>again with a few people. He's now in Uh, he's

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<v Speaker 2>now overseas in Europe somewhere, Yeah, somewhere. Hold on, hello,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the airline the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's this?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Steve?

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<v Speaker 4>This is gone done? Hey?

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<v Speaker 6>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Not too much?

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<v Speaker 5>I just I don't know if you guys covered much

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<v Speaker 5>of Chip Chip Hale getting his extension yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we did some, but go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm just I'm just glad for it, just to

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<v Speaker 5>keep that continuity in the program.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if you listen to the social.

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<v Speaker 5>Media's, a lot of people are crying that Kevin Vance

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<v Speaker 5>left and if we had a better package and we

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<v Speaker 5>could have kept him like he went, he left for

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<v Speaker 5>a head coaching job, and if he was under contract,

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<v Speaker 5>the multi year contract, Chip would have let him go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think that he would because why would you Why would you.

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<v Speaker 4>Deprive a guy a promotion? No question?

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<v Speaker 5>And if you didn't do that, And if you don't

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<v Speaker 5>do that, who's going to work for you? Sure, You're

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<v Speaker 5>exactly right, who have any quality is going to come

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<v Speaker 5>into work for you? You're going to be stuck with high

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<v Speaker 5>school rejects as your as your assistant coaches. And and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm what I'm hoping to see as a twosonan as

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<v Speaker 5>a lifelong Arizona Wildcat fan, is that I hope Chip

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<v Speaker 5>is turning over his assistant staff every four or five years,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe sooner, as long as he keeps quality guys coming

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<v Speaker 5>in and he's bringing those guys up. That I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>that's what you want. You want continuity, but you want

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<v Speaker 5>good guys coming in and the and everybody's always going, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>we want a young guy like like you know there,

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<v Speaker 5>you know everybody wants Seth Dagy to be the head

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<v Speaker 5>coach in waiting. Well, it's like yeah, but for how long?

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<v Speaker 4>Well let's get through the first how long is he

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<v Speaker 4>going to be here? Gets the first season? First? Right,

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<v Speaker 4>you're talking about football.

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<v Speaker 5>I like, I'm talking football and assistant coaches and coaching

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<v Speaker 5>in general at Arizona. I mean, I want I want

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<v Speaker 5>coaches that are going to stay and build and have

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<v Speaker 5>a program. Go ahead, And everybody everybody has pipe dreams

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<v Speaker 5>of national championships, and I think Arizona's best shot is

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<v Speaker 5>in baseball. To be honest with you, but you know, everybody,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody is always wanting, you know, we should hire this

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but to be here?

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<v Speaker 5>How long?

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 3>There you're talking as far as a head coach or

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm saying for head coaches, every you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>see on on Twitter and and and in the social

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<v Speaker 5>media is we always should go get this this young guy,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and it's like, yeah, but how long is

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<v Speaker 5>he going to want.

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<v Speaker 4>To be here?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean usually, and usually it seems like the assistant

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<v Speaker 3>coaches are the ones who are You're gonna jump after

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years maybe and get some experience, then

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<v Speaker 3>go maybe to a smaller university. I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 3>seems like that's kind of how it's usually worked. Although

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Vance pretty young, going to San Diego States is

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<v Speaker 3>An isn't a good.

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<v Speaker 4>Jump for him, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I had heard that it was his hometown.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know that he played there. Of course he's going.

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<v Speaker 4>To want to go there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's gonna want to go there, and everybody thinks

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<v Speaker 5>that's going to be a hot job. The only thing

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<v Speaker 5>is Tony Gwynn didn't do anything coaching there. Of course,

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<v Speaker 5>he was a player. He played there, But you know, done,

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<v Speaker 2>Me don't put stock in Twitter. Don't put stock in Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a bunch of dudes who have no time on

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's it's hard because I want to correct people

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<v Speaker 5>like Howard last week. I well like Howard when he

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<v Speaker 5>called in after after Arizona fell out of the World

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<v Speaker 5>Series and he and he pooed college baseball. But if

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<v Speaker 5>you were watching the telecast of our Friday game against Coastal,

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<v Speaker 5>Ben McDonald said, fifty four percent of the opening day

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<v Speaker 5>college ball. Yeah, and it's fun baseball to watch. It's

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<v Speaker 4>It's fun.

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<v Speaker 5>It's exciting because they hit and run, they steal, there's

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<v Speaker 4>You know. It's it's baseball baseball, not like.

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<v Speaker 5>Not like Major League baseball. I don't watch Major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even watch during the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, it's fun baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, you can say a lot of the guys

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<v Speaker 3>who played you said, a lot of guys who played college.

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<v Speaker 3>I was watching the Diamondbacks last night. The catcher for

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<v Speaker 3>the College World Series. I mean you know people are

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there was a kid that hit his last college

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<v Speaker 2>That's and that's surprising obviously, right with like the schemes

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<v Speaker 2>and the even the Gonzales kid who grew up here

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<v Speaker 2>and played here, uh and then played in the majors

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<v Speaker 5>See what he said last night, He got up pretty fast.

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<v Speaker 5>He went to New Mexico State, right, Nick Gonzalez was

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<v Speaker 5>I think within two more years he was in the majors.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Dave said, what do you happen?

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<v Speaker 3>He went five for five last night. He's hit in

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<v Speaker 4>Of his legs. But he's come back, so he's doing well.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're right, Nick, product of New Mexico State and

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he was right here.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, thanks done for your college. He was right here.

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<v Speaker 5>But you just don't know what these baseball players there's

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks to bunch Man, appreciate it. Thanks for yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody else want to call, please do five two oh

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<v Speaker 3>Good to kind of find out what your listeners are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be doing for sports this summer, Like what

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<v Speaker 4>You can do a lot. I've tried to drop this

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<v Speaker 4>call and he's still on. What are you doing? Done?

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<v Speaker 4>Hang up? I'm trying to hang up.

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<v Speaker 2>Donet Okay, Yeah, anybody else want to call, please do

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<v Speaker 2>five to two oh four one six seventy four forty

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<v Speaker 2>will take your call. We have there, we go. We

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<v Speaker 2>have time for you guys to call in. We got

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<v Speaker 4>What were we talking about before?

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<v Speaker 2>Not baseball or the draft, draft and anything that's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm finding guys to come on the show tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 2>have Blake Eager on, so we'll get some more baseball stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you get the draft tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's gonna be a yeah, going to take over

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<v Speaker 3>the National Sports News.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow for sure, with more trades probably coming in Earlier

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, we were talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About X guys, Did I google that Kobe Simmons remember him?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Plaid He had a few couples of coffees in the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA at a few different places. And who would have

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<v Speaker 2>all his all his issues, you know, And maybe that

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<v Speaker 2>was in any long career, long career and just but

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<v Speaker 2>a dude who just played well right, played smart, did

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<v Speaker 2>what he did, kind of like a Luke Walton type. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is kind of where Arizona made its legacy

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<v Speaker 2>outside of being a successful program. A lot of dudes

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<v Speaker 2>ended up in the NBA and and where are you

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<v Speaker 3>The NBA factory And you know, you hope that you

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he really has stopped. Yeah, he played. He

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<v Speaker 2>He played one year I think with the Knicks, right

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the problem. He didn't know how to pass

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's just getting he's already getting seven eight

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<v Speaker 3>But you know he also managed to stick around the

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<v Speaker 2>He just he had the gate, he had the body,

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<v Speaker 2>he had everything. And it was just like as Damon said,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You wonder where that just where he lost that

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<v Speaker 2>I think happened. I don't think he ever had it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he ever come with that Dave, I don't know this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know this because it's never going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>to me. When you're that good, sometimes you think I

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<v Speaker 2>could just be as good, you know, and then guess what.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, there's other.

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<v Speaker 2>Dudes that are pretty good that have been working harder, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>very much, helping their games more or just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't have lasted more than five years, I guess in

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<v Speaker 2>That right, and just a smooth talent, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>just give him the ball, get up the hell out

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he had a good sidekick. Those two guys. I've

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<v Speaker 2>Right right with six million people. Good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it doesn't go as well. Hey, so the Sons,

431
00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:55.200
<v Speaker 2>what the heck? Not a surprise, right? They've been talking

432
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<v Speaker 2>about the trade at some point and it finally happened.

433
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, I think after the trade deadline when

434
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<v Speaker 6>they explored trading Kevin Durant and it didn't work out.

435
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<v Speaker 6>I mean I think since then, it's just been kind

436
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<v Speaker 6>of a countdown to what happened on Sunday. You know, Kevin,

437
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<v Speaker 6>to his credit, knew that his time in Phoenix was

438
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<v Speaker 6>over and he went out and still played hard, and

439
00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:22.559
<v Speaker 6>you know, I mean he knew that this was coming.

440
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<v Speaker 6>And I mean, I don't know, people the fact that

441
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<v Speaker 6>the Sun's worked with him, I don't know if that

442
00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:30.119
<v Speaker 6>was the smartest move. I think that kind of killed

443
00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.119
<v Speaker 6>their leverage in a lot of ways. But maybe Kevin's

444
00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:35.240
<v Speaker 6>learn that, you know, being in the league as long

445
00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:38.400
<v Speaker 6>as he has, being as good as he's been. But

446
00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:41.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, I could there have been a better deal

447
00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:43.480
<v Speaker 6>out there for the Suns probably, but this is the

448
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<v Speaker 6>one they chose and we'll see how it looks here

449
00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:46.319
<v Speaker 6>in a few months.

450
00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:47.759
<v Speaker 4>So if I could did real quick.

451
00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:52.119
<v Speaker 2>So you covered the team, How was it covering him?

452
00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Because I think we all think that he's sensitive to things,

453
00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:56.039
<v Speaker 2>but is he?

454
00:20:58.279 --> 00:21:01.599
<v Speaker 6>No, he it's well, it was awesome, and yeah, he's sensitive.

455
00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:04.799
<v Speaker 6>The thing, I mean, he is aware of everything that's

456
00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:10.319
<v Speaker 6>being written about him, that's being tweeted about him. So

457
00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:14.359
<v Speaker 6>you know, he's not one you can't just throw questions out. Uh.

458
00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:17.039
<v Speaker 4>If it's you know, something.

459
00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:19.200
<v Speaker 6>That he knows that can be twisted to be made

460
00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:21.079
<v Speaker 6>a headline, that's going to get a lot of reaction

461
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<v Speaker 6>on social media. Uh. Just for an example, you know,

462
00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:28.160
<v Speaker 6>I asked Mike Budenholzer early last year about, you know,

463
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<v Speaker 6>how's Kevin been as a leader in your first month

464
00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:33.119
<v Speaker 6>on the job, and he, you know, he went on said,

465
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<v Speaker 6>Kevin's been great. I mean, he's been really you know,

466
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<v Speaker 6>because Kevin has that reputation of not being a leader.

467
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<v Speaker 6>So you know, about a week or two later, I

468
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<v Speaker 6>went up to Kevin, it was just me and him

469
00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:44.599
<v Speaker 6>in the locker room, and I said, hey, I want

470
00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:48.359
<v Speaker 6>to ask you. I mentioned this. I asked, Bud, how

471
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<v Speaker 6>you've been as a leader before he before the conversation

472
00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:54.119
<v Speaker 6>even went one second further, he said, why'd you ask

473
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<v Speaker 6>him that? One of what my intentions were about asking

474
00:21:57.279 --> 00:21:59.599
<v Speaker 6>that and then But so, I mean, he was great

475
00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:04.079
<v Speaker 6>to inter you. He is the most knowledgeable person. You

476
00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:07.759
<v Speaker 6>could ask him, Steve, about anybody in the NBA, about

477
00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:11.079
<v Speaker 6>college players and he would be he would know enough

478
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<v Speaker 6>about them to give you an intelligent answer.

479
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<v Speaker 14>You know.

480
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<v Speaker 6>Was he moody at times? No doubt, No doubt he

481
00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:19.720
<v Speaker 6>was moody. Uh you know if there wasn't a question,

482
00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:21.400
<v Speaker 6>if there was a question he didn't like, he would

483
00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:24.599
<v Speaker 6>challenge you. But you know that's kind of what you know,

484
00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:27.000
<v Speaker 6>we as journalists like kind of that back and forth.

485
00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:29.599
<v Speaker 6>And he was great to cover in that regard.

486
00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:33.319
<v Speaker 3>Meantime, they've they've kind of flipped their roster again for

487
00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:36.400
<v Speaker 3>what the second time in what three years? And now

488
00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:39.640
<v Speaker 3>we're going to have another coach, they have a high

489
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<v Speaker 3>pick tomorrow.

490
00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:41.920
<v Speaker 4>What do you see the.

491
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<v Speaker 3>Future looking like here at least in the next year

492
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<v Speaker 3>or so.

493
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<v Speaker 6>Uh, Well, I know they're trying to kind of do

494
00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.319
<v Speaker 6>like this soft rebuild where you know, they're not they're

495
00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:55.000
<v Speaker 6>in a rough spot because it's they can't really tank

496
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<v Speaker 6>to get you know, better draft position in the future

497
00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:01.640
<v Speaker 6>because they've already given up that the draft, right, so

498
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:05.759
<v Speaker 6>you know, they got to try to stay competitive with

499
00:23:05.799 --> 00:23:09.640
<v Speaker 6>Devin Booker. I don't see how it's gonna happen now.

500
00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:11.839
<v Speaker 6>I have talked with a lot of people who know

501
00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:16.119
<v Speaker 6>their new coach, Jordan Otwell, and they said, without quite

502
00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:18.240
<v Speaker 6>they said, everyone's saying they're gonna be worse. He said,

503
00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:20.079
<v Speaker 6>they're not gonna be worse than what they were. He'll

504
00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:23.200
<v Speaker 6>have them fighting for a playoff spot. I don't know

505
00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:24.880
<v Speaker 6>how far that gets them. I think they're a long

506
00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:28.319
<v Speaker 6>way from you know, contending in the Western Conference. Uh

507
00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:31.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, can they be you know, a team that

508
00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.839
<v Speaker 6>gets that eighth spot, Yeah, that seventh spot in the playoffs?

509
00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:38.160
<v Speaker 6>They can I don't know how much better they're gonna be,

510
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.000
<v Speaker 6>just because they're still you know, their roster still has

511
00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:44.200
<v Speaker 6>major flaws. They still have to figure out what to

512
00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:47.920
<v Speaker 6>do with Bradley deal, which was really what kind of

513
00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:50.519
<v Speaker 6>killed them in the first place, making that trade. So

514
00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:53.759
<v Speaker 6>they're still gonna make a lot of moves. They're going

515
00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:55.559
<v Speaker 6>to try to do what they can to get rid

516
00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 6>of get off of Bradley Bill's contract. So we'll see

517
00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:01.599
<v Speaker 6>they have they have a they're in position to do

518
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:03.279
<v Speaker 6>something in the draft, so we'll see what the roster

519
00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:05.319
<v Speaker 6>looks like. But I think they're gonna it's going to

520
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.240
<v Speaker 6>be a couple of years of you know, of kind

521
00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:10.079
<v Speaker 6>of struggling, you know, maybe get into the playoffs, but

522
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 6>not not not doing much beyond that.

523
00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:14.279
<v Speaker 2>So we do this for a living, right, We're doing

524
00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:15.960
<v Speaker 2>it for a long time. But Dave did it for

525
00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:17.319
<v Speaker 2>a long time. I did it for a long time.

526
00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>You do it continue, You cover some great stuff and

527
00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:23.440
<v Speaker 2>it's what we were built for, right, So were there

528
00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:25.720
<v Speaker 2>times covering a team like this because you do ASU

529
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:28.440
<v Speaker 2>and other things that you said, God, I don't want

530
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:30.000
<v Speaker 2>to go to that. I don't want to go to

531
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.119
<v Speaker 2>the arena to deal with this stuff because it's sometimes

532
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>it seems like it would be tough with these personalities

533
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:37.000
<v Speaker 2>that you have to deal with.

534
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I first covered the Sun, so gosh, it was.

535
00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:43.839
<v Speaker 14>Well.

536
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:46.039
<v Speaker 6>I was around during the Nash years and Amari years.

537
00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:48.519
<v Speaker 6>That was awesome. That was fun, and then I was

538
00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:50.319
<v Speaker 6>brought back. Of course, I coverers will stay for a

539
00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:52.880
<v Speaker 6>long time and then there was a year that I

540
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.160
<v Speaker 6>was brought back into it during It was Devin Booker's

541
00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:58.920
<v Speaker 6>second year. Earl Watson was there. They won twenty games.

542
00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:01.880
<v Speaker 6>They were terrible thirteen year a row that year, but

543
00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:04.559
<v Speaker 6>it was still fun covering the NBA steam. You would

544
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:07.640
<v Speaker 6>still go, I mean, the whole basketball universe was available

545
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:09.759
<v Speaker 6>to you. You would go on the road, you know,

546
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:11.960
<v Speaker 6>if you just waited out, if you wanted to get somebody,

547
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.359
<v Speaker 6>you could find them. It was fun. I had a

548
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:17.960
<v Speaker 6>blast cover him that year. This year was the most mimorable,

549
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.640
<v Speaker 6>most miserable. And you know, I don't travel with him

550
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:23.680
<v Speaker 6>except in the playoffs, so I was out there mostly

551
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.200
<v Speaker 6>just a home game, but it was it was miserable

552
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:30.599
<v Speaker 6>there that last month of the year. Mike Budenholzer, I think,

553
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.599
<v Speaker 6>kind of knew his fate and it was surprising to me.

554
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:36.279
<v Speaker 6>I knew he did not have, you know, a reputation.

555
00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:39.000
<v Speaker 6>He kind of was groomed under Greg Popovich, so I

556
00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:41.759
<v Speaker 6>knew he wasn't great with the media, but it just

557
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.480
<v Speaker 6>seemed like everyone walked I mean, Sun staffers, everyone just

558
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:47.799
<v Speaker 6>kind of walked on eggshells around him. He was just

559
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:51.839
<v Speaker 6>not a pleasant person, not me, not rude, but just

560
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 6>unwilling mostly. You know, he's been in the league for

561
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.519
<v Speaker 6>his whole taught adult life. You would think he could

562
00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:01.680
<v Speaker 6>tell some stories about Tim Duncan. No, you weren't going

563
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:03.759
<v Speaker 6>to get anything like that. And then you know, towards

564
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 6>the end, when Kevin knew he was going to be

565
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:09.119
<v Speaker 6>on the way out Bradley Beal in his no trade clause,

566
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:12.279
<v Speaker 6>it was just a miserable People were kind of waiting

567
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:13.559
<v Speaker 6>for the end of the season for sure.

568
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, those are not the fun time. What do

569
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:18.519
<v Speaker 2>you think they'll do with Beal? Is there a way

570
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:19.519
<v Speaker 2>they can get rid of him?

571
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 6>Well, they're they're gonna try, They're gonna explore it. There

572
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 6>are two options. You could find a trade partner for him,

573
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:32.079
<v Speaker 6>which I have a hard time believing. They tried at

574
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.680
<v Speaker 6>the trade deadline, and you know, no one. As it

575
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.920
<v Speaker 6>turns out, there's not a huge market for guy owed

576
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 6>one hundred and ten million over two years, who is

577
00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:46.480
<v Speaker 6>just mostly unreliable just because of his injury history. Know,

578
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.920
<v Speaker 6>when brad was healthy, I thought he was good at

579
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:54.039
<v Speaker 6>times last year, particularly coming off the bench. He played

580
00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:55.640
<v Speaker 6>hard for a while, and I thought there were times

581
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:57.400
<v Speaker 6>where he was just kind of going through the motions,

582
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:01.359
<v Speaker 6>which happens to in an NBA season. So they could

583
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Speaker 6>try to find a trade partner, and of course there

584
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 6>are no guarantees with that because he can he can

585
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:08.680
<v Speaker 6>decline the trade, he can be tow the trade with

586
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:12.880
<v Speaker 6>his no trade clause. The other option, they could negotiate

587
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 6>some sort of kind of settlement and kind of wave

588
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 6>and stretch him to where they're paying him off over

589
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:23.039
<v Speaker 6>the next five years. For that to happen, you know,

590
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.640
<v Speaker 6>brad would have to take less money, which would he

591
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 6>do that? I don't know. In order for them, I

592
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:30.519
<v Speaker 6>think to even get to that point, I think they

593
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.880
<v Speaker 6>would have to say, like, hey, look something that may

594
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.000
<v Speaker 6>be happy with Drake J. Crowder a few years ago

595
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.359
<v Speaker 6>when he was here, just say like, hey, you know,

596
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.480
<v Speaker 6>don't come around the team, and I do know that

597
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:44.079
<v Speaker 6>Bradley Beali's competitor wants to play. That may be where

598
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.000
<v Speaker 6>we end up. And then the third option is that

599
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:49.359
<v Speaker 6>they just have to bringing back next year, go just

600
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 6>fight through it, and then he'll have a little bit

601
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.680
<v Speaker 6>more value the following year, when you know Kings might

602
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 6>be interested in getting that contract because it's the final

603
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:58.640
<v Speaker 6>year of that contract and making cash in on it,

604
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:01.200
<v Speaker 6>but no good options, that's for sure.

605
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 2>So now with getting the tenth pick tomorrow, Uh, you know,

606
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 2>everyone says, oh, I'm hearing that, h Carter Bryant could

607
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>go to Phoenix. You know they're hearing because somebody put

608
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>it on a mock draft. Are you doing a mock draft?

609
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.279
<v Speaker 2>And what do you think about number ten tomorrow?

610
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.200
<v Speaker 6>I've not done a mock draft in a long time.

611
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:20.759
<v Speaker 4>Smart.

612
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, Uh, he makes sense for them. They

613
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.880
<v Speaker 6>need size on the wing, for sure. They do have

614
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.480
<v Speaker 6>some some players. They have a lot of backcourt players

615
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:35.920
<v Speaker 6>who can kind of you know, play the wing positions,

616
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 6>but they're not very big. And you know, Carter Bryant.

617
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 12>Has that side.

618
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 6>He's a great shooter. You know, it's interacting. I mean,

619
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.400
<v Speaker 6>like I probably like you, Steve. I mean I saw

620
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.240
<v Speaker 6>Carter up close a few times this year and I

621
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 6>never thought that he was ready for right. But as

622
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 6>you know, I mean, it's not necessarily production. It's you know,

623
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 6>the the profile, it's you know, the skills that you have.

624
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.240
<v Speaker 6>They got to go side on the wing. Well, sides

625
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:03.519
<v Speaker 6>on the wing would be one way to go if

626
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.599
<v Speaker 6>they need. You know, they're really really thin in the

627
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 6>front court. So it wouldn't be It wouldn't surprise me.

628
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:10.920
<v Speaker 6>If you know the kid from Duke, the big kid,

629
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 6>if he's around, I don't know if he will be.

630
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 6>I think he would be somebody they would look at.

631
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.119
<v Speaker 6>You know, if there's a few pure point guard that

632
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.559
<v Speaker 6>you know is around there. The Yakatona's kid from Illinois

633
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.880
<v Speaker 6>might be good. He's a good playmaker. But you know,

634
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.680
<v Speaker 6>they need to they need to really make that pick count.

635
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 6>That was the big key in the in the Durant

636
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 6>trade was getting that number kid pick. If they can,

637
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 6>if they get hit on that, that would that would

638
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:37.640
<v Speaker 6>definitely put them in a better position to where they

639
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<v Speaker 6>are right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been there forever a long time at least. And

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<v Speaker 2>how are the fans dealing dealing with this?

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<v Speaker 4>Are they?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>God?

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<v Speaker 2>This this because this franchise is kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't won. They were in the finals a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's been like the latest success since Study three

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<v Speaker 2>in Charles. Uh, it's kind of are they begging like

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<v Speaker 2>people here begging it's too strong aboard like here with

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<v Speaker 2>you try and get back to the final four.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, I mean Matt HB has taken a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of blame from the fans. I mean when he came,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and coming off the Farvard years, you have

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<v Speaker 6>an owner who's going immediately bring trades with Kevin Durant,

655
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<v Speaker 6>who shows he's not afraid to spend money. But you know,

656
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<v Speaker 6>you could go through all the moves they've made the

657
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<v Speaker 6>last three years since he's been here, Kevin Durant, Bradley Beale,

658
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<v Speaker 6>maybe over spending for Grayson Allen. You know a lot

659
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<v Speaker 6>of these have not worked out really well in the product.

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<v Speaker 6>You can see the results on the court. So you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know how popular he is right now with

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<v Speaker 6>the fan base, but you know there are really hardcore fans.

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<v Speaker 6>I spent one night during the season late year before

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<v Speaker 6>they decided they were going to build around Devin Booker,

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<v Speaker 6>just asking fans like, you know, what would it mean?

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<v Speaker 6>This is right after Luka Danzik was traded, what would

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<v Speaker 6>happen if the Sun's traded them Booker? And it was

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<v Speaker 6>more so I got, you know, I got the people

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<v Speaker 6>say like if they if they trade Devin Booker, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>done with them. I got a few of those, but

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<v Speaker 6>more so Steve than than not. It was fans like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, if that's what's best for in the organization,

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't like it, but I would be I would

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<v Speaker 6>be behind him, you know, I'll support the team no

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<v Speaker 6>matter what. So I was a little bit surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think, you know, there's there's some diehard fans

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<v Speaker 6>here who you know, they're not happy with the way

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<v Speaker 6>things are going, but they're they're they're willing to stick

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<v Speaker 6>around just to just because that's the team. This is

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<v Speaker 6>the team they've always followed, and they're going to continue

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<v Speaker 6>to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been following the whole Diamondback story with the stadium?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that something you've been covering with the money that's covering?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, not covering, monitoring is probably a better word.

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<v Speaker 14>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I was out there last weekend when they were trying

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<v Speaker 6>to get people to you know, sign and uh a petition.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was. You know, I think it's it's good.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously it's good for PETINGIX. I don't think this town

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<v Speaker 6>could afford to lose another pro sports franchise, especially the Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 6>That stadium to me, you know, when it's open. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know if you guys have been there, recently. When

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<v Speaker 6>it's open, when the panels are open, the roof of open,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a nice place to watch baseball game, I think.

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<v Speaker 6>But I do know that there are some repairs that

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<v Speaker 6>you know, they've had to do, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 6>diyingbacks don't own the building, so they've asked for help.

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<v Speaker 6>So it seems like it's going in the right direction,

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<v Speaker 6>just me the governor's signature to to put that into law.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh So in that sense, I think the people here

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<v Speaker 6>are a little bit believed that they don't have to

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<v Speaker 6>go through another situation like the Coyotes.

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<v Speaker 3>What do they need to do to the stadium? Anything

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<v Speaker 3>you can talk about specific I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think it's just more infrastructure stuff, stuff that's been ongoing

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<v Speaker 6>for a long time. I think that's the main thing.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know the specifics of it. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>think that's a lot and you know it's you think

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<v Speaker 6>about it, it does it.

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<v Speaker 4>It is an.

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<v Speaker 6>Older one of the older stadiums, so uh it's probably

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<v Speaker 6>I know it's due for a lot of upgrades and repairs.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that's, you know, just infrastructure stuff. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know specifically needs to be done.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's what thirty five years old. God, that

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<v Speaker 4>makes me feel old.

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<v Speaker 3>No, well.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight, so.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the olders, one of the oldest, really makes

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<v Speaker 2>me feel old because it just happens that way. So

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<v Speaker 2>are you covering some ASU stuff when they start coming

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<v Speaker 2>back for football.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Yeah, I've been out there a little bit over

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<v Speaker 6>the off season and you know, just trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>make sure you know, it feels like they're Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 6>seems like they're you know, you know the story. You

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<v Speaker 6>guys know the story. I mean Arizona State, Like Arizona

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<v Speaker 6>has had good years and the problems always been sustaining it.

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<v Speaker 6>Right outside of probably the the two years, the back

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<v Speaker 6>to back ten win season with Ty Grant, it seems

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<v Speaker 6>like they're probably his best position to build off that.

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<v Speaker 6>I know. Their quarterback Sam Levitt's getting some early Heisman attentions,

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<v Speaker 6>for whatever that's worth. But you know, he was a

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<v Speaker 6>guy last year, to be honest, when he first started

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<v Speaker 6>early in the season, the first couple of games, I

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't I asn't sold on him, but you know, being

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the long term solution at quarterback. But man,

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<v Speaker 6>did he just keep getting better and better and better

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<v Speaker 6>and better. It'll be interesting to see what they can

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<v Speaker 6>do without Cam s Kataboo, just because he was so

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<v Speaker 6>important to what they did. But you know, having you know,

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<v Speaker 6>as many start returning starters that they do, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Jordan Tyson, a receiver who will probably be a preseason

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<v Speaker 6>All American, you know, they're in a pretty good position,

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<v Speaker 6>I think too, you know, at least challenge in the

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<v Speaker 6>Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just I don't just your thoughts, because I know

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<v Speaker 2>you saw him play at least a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Love just kind of an enigma can play. But

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<v Speaker 2>are you not good enough?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, enigma is a great word. I think you could

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<v Speaker 6>watch Caleb Love twenty times and come away with a

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<v Speaker 6>different opinion everywhere, you know, towards the you know, in

755
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<v Speaker 6>the NCAA. I'll be honest, I thought, you know what,

756
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<v Speaker 6>maybe he might be a better pro than he is

757
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<v Speaker 6>a college player. I don't know what made me think that,

758
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<v Speaker 6>but I do know that my respect level for him

759
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<v Speaker 6>went way up, as everyone should have right in the

760
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<v Speaker 6>nc definitely tournament just because they needed him and he delivered.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, he was really really good.

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<v Speaker 14>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>Just was it the game against Duke where I thought like, Okay,

764
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<v Speaker 6>Duke's going away. Yeah, he wasn't going to let him

765
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<v Speaker 6>do that. There's something to be said for somebody I

766
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<v Speaker 6>think who you know doesn't do it. It maybe may

767
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<v Speaker 6>not be pretty all the time, may shoot three for

768
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<v Speaker 6>fourteen in a couple of games in a row, but

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<v Speaker 6>still you know, doesn't isn't afraid of the moment, not

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<v Speaker 6>afraid to take the shot that needs to be taken

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<v Speaker 6>in those moments. And I think he's definitely one of

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<v Speaker 6>those guys. And I think somehow that that translates to

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<v Speaker 6>the to the NBA better than some of the other

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<v Speaker 6>skills that we measure in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, I totally agree with you. I just don't know,

776
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<v Speaker 2>there's got to be more than just basketball with him

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<v Speaker 2>because it's just oddan. He's a good player. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>you want some twenty times you see that. Wow, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a different look. Yeah, Doug, as usual, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>your insight. Appreciate it having good.

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<v Speaker 6>Summer, all right, Appreciate you guys having me take care.

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<v Speaker 4>Doug Haller from the athletic We'll take a break here

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<v Speaker 4>and come back.

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848
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<v Speaker 2>minutes out in New York being interviewed for tomorrow's big draft.

849
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:55.239
<v Speaker 4>It was It's funny though.

850
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>One of the things that he said in the first

851
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 2>five minutes, I said he had always planned on being

852
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 2>a two year guy, not a one year guy. I

853
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think I've always heard he was gonna

854
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:05.119
<v Speaker 2>be a one year guy.

855
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he didn't didn't play a lot, and

856
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's obviously going on the potential situation where

857
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:13.840
<v Speaker 3>people think he's gonna do do some good things. We

858
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 3>saw some great moments, you know, some highlights. Almost every

859
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 3>game he played, it seemed like he had a highlight,

860
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.440
<v Speaker 3>but didn't play a lot average what six points a game.

861
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.159
<v Speaker 3>But he's there in New York and he's wherever the

862
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:30.239
<v Speaker 3>draft is in Brooklyn, Yeah, doing the news, doing the

863
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:30.880
<v Speaker 3>news conferences.

864
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:31.159
<v Speaker 4>Today.

865
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:33.679
<v Speaker 3>He'll be there and getting ready to be selected tomorrow.

866
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:36.679
<v Speaker 3>So are probably in the ten to fifteen range is

867
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.360
<v Speaker 3>kind of what we've been seeing with a mock draft

868
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:41.039
<v Speaker 3>for what those are worth. Remember Team Act, we weren't

869
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 3>quite sure where he was going to get picked, and

870
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.039
<v Speaker 3>he goes number seven, So that turned out pretty well

871
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:46.280
<v Speaker 3>for him.

872
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Give me a second, give me a second. I want

873
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:52.519
<v Speaker 2>to try to play. Okay, I have him on, Henry.

874
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Henry says, it's one of these one of these things.

875
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's on. I don't think it's work

876
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.039
<v Speaker 2>because it's one of these monks and it's not all

877
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 2>can't hear it because we'd be able to hear it.

878
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:06.239
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, he handles himself well.

879
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:08.280
<v Speaker 2>That's the whole thing part of the media to if

880
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:10.920
<v Speaker 2>you remember it, if you remember two three years ago

881
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>when Dalien came out right and we're thinking, what is

882
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>he doing. He's not ready for the NBA, blah blah blah,

883
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.320
<v Speaker 2>but he he was obviously athletic. But he handled himself

884
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.639
<v Speaker 2>so well that they did. Chicago at least found it.

885
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:26.599
<v Speaker 2>He found him worthy enough to draft him. Sure, and

886
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:31.079
<v Speaker 2>h Carter Bryant's probably more reserved. But a bright kid,

887
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 2>has a nice background, speaks well, and here we are.

888
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.840
<v Speaker 3>It's you know, it's such an important time for them.

889
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 3>It's an important time for these teams. Doug Haller was

890
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.320
<v Speaker 3>who we just talked to talking about the Suns have

891
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:44.880
<v Speaker 3>so many.

892
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Different things going on with you know, new coach.

893
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 3>They traded away half their team, They traded away one

894
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 3>of the best players of all time, and they got

895
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 3>the number ten pick on the draft him.

896
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:53.760
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot going on just in.

897
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.440
<v Speaker 3>These couple of days with Phoenix and that guy like

898
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 3>Carter Bryant. He could be he could be dropped into

899
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.599
<v Speaker 3>that drama possibly to you know, do you really want

900
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:02.679
<v Speaker 3>to go there at this point?

901
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 2>I think the check cash is fine and he'll be

902
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 2>a star. I mean, I don't know if he'll sell

903
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 2>more tickets, but people from here will go see him play. Yeah,

904
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 2>probably see a more playoff. We see him play more

905
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:16.480
<v Speaker 2>up there than he did down here.

906
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:16.840
<v Speaker 4>That's true.

907
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 3>We'll play a lot more games total if he's you know,

908
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.239
<v Speaker 3>if he's healthy and can go.

909
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 4>It's funny.

910
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you saw him, and I saw him a

911
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 2>lot earlier because I covered the team, But he was

912
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:31.960
<v Speaker 2>like a baby deer, a baby deer coming out very shy,

913
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>very you know, wanted to find his place. Wasn't very aggressive,

914
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>and then about early January he kind of found that rhythm. Yeah,

915
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:43.519
<v Speaker 2>and then by that time Tommy didn't want to screw

916
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 2>up the lineup.

917
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 3>And you know, you come in with all these expectations,

918
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:50.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, McDonald's all American and all the stuff that

919
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:52.320
<v Speaker 3>you know comes with that, and just just coming too

920
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 3>a program like this where you're gonna get a lot

921
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.880
<v Speaker 3>of attention. I'm sure that he felt the pressure, and

922
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe he just wasn't you know, maybe ready

923
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 3>in October November, but like you said, my January he

924
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of got a little more comfortable. He knew that,

925
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:06.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, Tommy wasn't going to yank him if he

926
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of stumbled a little bit, and he

927
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 3>was making plays, I mean, especially defensively. He had a

928
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:13.559
<v Speaker 3>lot of great block shots and things like that that

929
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 3>you kind of forget about when you're watching highlights of

930
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.079
<v Speaker 3>a game, but sometimes that's the most important part.

931
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 2>In that interview, early on he talked about his favorite

932
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 2>thing to do is pass and I don't remember him

933
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:27.360
<v Speaker 2>being a great of a passer, although I wasn't noticing it.

934
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.119
<v Speaker 2>And then he says playing defense that too. I mean,

935
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.320
<v Speaker 2>because he was a freshman, right and what's the last

936
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:34.320
<v Speaker 2>thing the freshman want to do.

937
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:35.480
<v Speaker 4>Play defense?

938
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:37.679
<v Speaker 3>Well, sometimes that's what's going to keep him on the court.

939
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:39.920
<v Speaker 3>You know he's not getting burned because like a lot

940
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:42.320
<v Speaker 3>other times, you know, you're watching somebody just getting you know,

941
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.519
<v Speaker 3>moved around her maneuver, you're not in a position. It

942
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 3>seemed like he was pretty good at that. I think

943
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 3>did he did He have one big play where he

944
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:51.960
<v Speaker 3>committed a foul late in the game.

945
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 4>Was it him, I don't remember what game was.

946
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Happened towards some guy in the corner set a three pointer,

947
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.000
<v Speaker 3>like near the end of the game, and he fouled

948
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 3>them like.

949
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 4>You shouldn't have.

950
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably those are like freshman mistakes sometimes, but he

951
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.159
<v Speaker 3>was trying to make a play which happens.

952
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Did you see the Red Blue game? Were you there?

953
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of when you realize how good he

954
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.079
<v Speaker 2>was athletic. I think he won the dunk contest and

955
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:17.480
<v Speaker 2>then he was a heck of a shooter. I think

956
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:20.199
<v Speaker 2>he may have won the three point contest too, being

957
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:23.519
<v Speaker 2>his size and his long arms and his ability to

958
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 2>play multiple positions.

959
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 3>So he definitely has the He definitely has the body

960
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 3>and the skill. It looks like just to move up

961
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 3>to that next levelt least he thinks he does. And

962
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:35.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm sure he did work out with teams

963
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.360
<v Speaker 3>and oh ye yeah, if they're picking him projecting him,

964
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I should say, you know in the ten to fifteen range,

965
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:42.960
<v Speaker 3>those teams have seen him and they're probably going to

966
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:44.000
<v Speaker 3>pick them right.

967
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, I would be surprised now that I see

968
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:50.079
<v Speaker 2>all these mock drofts now with the result with Phoenix

969
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:54.039
<v Speaker 2>and then what Doug said that they need somebody like him.

970
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:57.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, when Saint Stanley Johnson came out in twenty sixteen,

971
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.199
<v Speaker 2>it was and it was not a surprise because he

972
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:03.800
<v Speaker 2>was the one undone guy and knew it. My question

973
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 2>to him was, you know, are you ready? Are you

974
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 2>really ready for this? Because the NBA is a big

975
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:10.440
<v Speaker 2>man's lea. It's it's a it's a man's league. It's

976
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:13.280
<v Speaker 2>a man's league, although it's a young man's league, right

977
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:15.599
<v Speaker 2>because you know, look at Okay, see the youngest team

978
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 2>out there in forever winning the title, and it's a

979
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.559
<v Speaker 2>it's a young man's game, but it's still a man's game.

980
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.079
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a big night for Duke. They're gonna

981
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:26.760
<v Speaker 3>probably three or four guys picking the top.

982
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Well it's been that way for Arizona that time or

983
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>two right, Yeah, but it's Duke. So we'll see what.

984
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:35.559
<v Speaker 2>I saw one D and one in one of the drafts.

985
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't you know, I've looked at so many. I

986
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.239
<v Speaker 2>might have been on s I where they had Carter

987
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 2>going to Oklahoma City with with what number in the

988
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:48.719
<v Speaker 2>again in that range, which will be an interesting landing

989
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:50.599
<v Speaker 2>spot for I don't see him playing a whole hecu

990
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot next year.

991
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:54.239
<v Speaker 4>Now. I just don't depends on the team it really does,

992
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 4>you know. I mean, if it's going to.

993
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:58.639
<v Speaker 3>Be a team that needs instant help, I'll just throw

994
00:45:58.719 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 3>him out there and see.

995
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:01.840
<v Speaker 4>What he can. Then he'd get lost. You know, when

996
00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:03.199
<v Speaker 4>you're playing with a bad team.

997
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 3>If you're going to be a first round pick, they

998
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 3>kind of expect you to you know, if you played

999
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.519
<v Speaker 3>for the Sons, you expect to be playing a lot

1000
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 3>starting if you're ready to go.

1001
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Right right, We'll see what happens with him. Good luck

1002
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 2>to him and to to Caleb as well. I can't

1003
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.800
<v Speaker 2>remember the last time it was like I saw Caleb situation,

1004
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.760
<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure they're out there I don't know, maybe

1005
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe a Nick Johnson who was a fantastic player in

1006
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 2>college but was not was not an NBA guy, you

1007
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:33.400
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. Too short, but athletic as all hell,

1008
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:37.159
<v Speaker 2>and maybe even like yuh and I hate to compare this,

1009
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:38.639
<v Speaker 2>but this name popped into my mind.

1010
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:39.719
<v Speaker 4>Hasan Adams.

1011
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you know, a guy who could do a

1012
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:44.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of different things, but it wasn't didn't have a position.

1013
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.880
<v Speaker 2>He needed to be like two or three inches taller. Yeah,

1014
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 2>and you know where he you know where he best

1015
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>played under the basket. He was fantastic and whenever when

1016
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Luke moved him to the perimeter, it was like you

1017
00:46:55.840 --> 00:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>lost something. A guy who could rebound at any against anybody.

1018
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:01.400
<v Speaker 9>He could.

1019
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:04.239
<v Speaker 3>It was tough inside. He was great, but he wasn't

1020
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 3>going to play there in the NBA. No, he did

1021
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.199
<v Speaker 3>play a little bit, right, He played a year or two,

1022
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:11.079
<v Speaker 3>a couple of coffee. But yeah, he couldn't have been

1023
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 3>more than six four six. No, he could jump out

1024
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 3>of the gym, but he couldn't play it outside. He

1025
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.119
<v Speaker 3>couldn't be a wing. He couldn't shoot good enough? Is

1026
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 3>that proper English? Well enough? Yeah?

1027
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.880
<v Speaker 4>No, ESPN has Cardiff wand English.

1028
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:31.440
<v Speaker 3>I was the wrong dude, ESPN mock draft Carter Bryant

1029
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 3>eleven to.

1030
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Portland, Portland, Yeah, well that was was.

1031
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:37.559
<v Speaker 2>That he who did it ESPN, ESPN okay today, So

1032
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.440
<v Speaker 2>they moved him down one who they put a ten.

1033
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Colin Murray Boyles again moved South Carolina.

1034
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, because they had him at ten earlier I think

1035
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 2>in the day or Yes.

1036
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 3>Interesting, there's usually a number of international players in that

1037
00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.679
<v Speaker 3>top group and this year really there's only.

1038
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.320
<v Speaker 4>Like a Spain in that mix.

1039
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:04.360
<v Speaker 2>A lot of them aren't going to be coming playing

1040
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:08.440
<v Speaker 2>for the college teams now because it can make some moneys, right, However,

1041
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 2>they're doing.

1042
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:11.679
<v Speaker 4>It exactly right. So yeah, I mean really remember.

1043
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:13.199
<v Speaker 3>The last few years of a couple of guys from

1044
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:14.119
<v Speaker 3>France were picked in.

1045
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 4>The top top five.

1046
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.199
<v Speaker 3>The guy from Duke I'm want to butcher his name,

1047
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:23.719
<v Speaker 3>but come on, mallow walk the Center. Yeah, yeah, he's

1048
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 3>from he's from Africa. But still, you know, here's a

1049
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.760
<v Speaker 3>guy from Germany picked possibly to Toronto. But yeah, really,

1050
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of a lot of the American college

1051
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:38.480
<v Speaker 3>players who stuck Wonder made their money and now they're

1052
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 3>going on.

1053
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I guess Bruce would know this. But is Tommy already

1054
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 2>in Switzerland?

1055
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:44.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1056
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.400
<v Speaker 2>You can start this weekend this weekend, right, so I'm

1057
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:49.519
<v Speaker 2>wondering if he is going to be in New York.

1058
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 2>And maybe because you typically that's the situation, it could

1059
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 2>be a stopping off wint to get out to be

1060
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<v Speaker 2>there in the green room or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My only NBA expert with the draft was h They

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<v Speaker 2>sent me to Vancouver when Mike Bibby was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the potential number one guy. Uh, and I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a column because we all kind of knew that either

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to be number one or number two.

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<v Speaker 2>And your guy, your guy at Stockton you mentioned his

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<v Speaker 2>name not too long ago, the big guy Conny, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know why, they were telling me, you can't teach hyde,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can teach basketball, and you didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>teach bike baby basketball. And so he went to Vancouver

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<v Speaker 2>and Ali Condi went to Clippers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because

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<v Speaker 2>then I wrote a column the Clippers were just being

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<v Speaker 2>the Clippers because that was our history.

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<v Speaker 3>Right and a chance to get the best guard in

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<v Speaker 3>the country and they do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then well then he had help because Michael Dickerson

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<v Speaker 2>went to Vancouver as well, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was that was an interesting sign on the

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<v Speaker 3>from the TV side of things. We never went to

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<v Speaker 3>the draft, but we were given access to the players,

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<v Speaker 3>like they would set up these, yeah, one on one

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<v Speaker 3>interviews literally like twenty minutes after they were drafted. They

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<v Speaker 3>put them in front of some screen and then they

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<v Speaker 3>would call in and we could interview them like they

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<v Speaker 3>were you know, the two box.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the best way because let me tell you something,

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<v Speaker 2>going to Vancouver didn't help me. It was a big,

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<v Speaker 2>big room with people and sometimes you got them and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you didn't. Yeah, and then you have to use

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<v Speaker 2>the quote chets or whatever. Yeah, because they were parading

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<v Speaker 2>them everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, this is really really well set up. They would

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<v Speaker 3>just like go from station to station and they would

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<v Speaker 3>go NBC, CBS affiliates or whatever, and they put them up,

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<v Speaker 3>put a little earpiece in microphone, off they go.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave, that was quick man, two hours of talking sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for coming in today anytime, maybe Thursday. I'll see

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Thursday. Thanks everybody for listening. A decent show today.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you guys tomorrow. Thanks appreciate it.
