Speaker 1: This is Eye on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Island Ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver. Got to
Speaker 2: time for people to call us here before we talk
Speaker 2: to Doug in about eighteen minutes five two zero four
Speaker 2: one six seventy four forty. Where do you think Carter
Speaker 2: will end up? Will Caleb be picked? Well, have tomorrow show.
Speaker 2: I think you're not in right. I got Blake coming
Speaker 2: and tomorrow we'll talk a lot about that. In fact,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to reach out to a former GM
Speaker 2: at the NBA level to talk about tomorrow show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the draft starts, I guess at five
Speaker 3: o'clock our time. So just as you're wrapping things up,
Speaker 3: it's o'clock. It's a one hundred to one. Uh mister,
Speaker 3: what Cooper flag? Cooper flag will be number one. That's
Speaker 3: pretty obvious. Yeah, but yeah, got some trades going on.
Speaker 3: Celtics dealing away Chris STAPs perzingis just a few minutes ago.
Speaker 3: So teams are making some last minute moves to clear
Speaker 3: out some salary. The Pelicans traded CJ. McCollum earlier to
Speaker 3: the Wizards. So yeah, teams are, like I said, trying
Speaker 3: to clear things up and get ready to start adding
Speaker 3: some young players their rosters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Yeah, we'll see what happens. A lot of
Speaker 2: stuff going on, a lot of movement here the next
Speaker 2: twenty four hours probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even tomorrow, especially like we have a trade,
Speaker 3: you know, as the guys are coming up, it will
Speaker 3: always be that kind of thing going on as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what happens. I just texted my buddy
Speaker 2: to one of the former gms in the league. See
Speaker 2: if you can come on tomorrow for like ten fifteen minutes,
Speaker 2: I'll talk about all that stuff. We'll see what happens. Uh,
Speaker 2: anybody else we got to Caleb? We have in I
Speaker 2: was googling stuff, but yesterday and I was or maybe
Speaker 2: this morning, and I don't know why looking at Treer.
Speaker 4: I didn't google Treer.
Speaker 2: But you know Kobe Simmons remember him, Yeah, he he
Speaker 2: He had some time in the NBA every now and
Speaker 2: again with a few people. He's now in Uh, he's
Speaker 2: now overseas in Europe somewhere, Yeah, somewhere. Hold on, hello,
Speaker 2: you're on the airline the ball.
Speaker 4: Who's this?
Speaker 5: Hey, Steve?
Speaker 4: This is gone done? Hey?
Speaker 6: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: Not too much?
Speaker 5: I just I don't know if you guys covered much
Speaker 5: of Chip Chip Hale getting his extension yesterday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did some, but go ahead.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just I'm just glad for it, just to
Speaker 5: keep that continuity in the program.
Speaker 4: You know, if you listen to the social.
Speaker 5: Media's, a lot of people are crying that Kevin Vance
Speaker 5: left and if we had a better package and we
Speaker 5: could have kept him like he went, he left for
Speaker 5: a head coaching job, and if he was under contract,
Speaker 5: the multi year contract, Chip would have let him go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 5: Think that he would because why would you Why would you.
Speaker 4: Deprive a guy a promotion? No question?
Speaker 5: And if you didn't do that, And if you don't
Speaker 5: do that, who's going to work for you? Sure, You're
Speaker 5: exactly right, who have any quality is going to come
Speaker 5: into work for you? You're going to be stuck with high
Speaker 5: school rejects as your as your assistant coaches. And and
Speaker 5: I'm what I'm hoping to see as a twosonan as
Speaker 5: a lifelong Arizona Wildcat fan, is that I hope Chip
Speaker 5: is turning over his assistant staff every four or five years,
Speaker 5: maybe sooner, as long as he keeps quality guys coming
Speaker 5: in and he's bringing those guys up. That I mean,
Speaker 5: that's what you want. You want continuity, but you want
Speaker 5: good guys coming in and the and everybody's always going, oh,
Speaker 5: we want a young guy like like you know there,
Speaker 5: you know everybody wants Seth Dagy to be the head
Speaker 5: coach in waiting. Well, it's like yeah, but for how long?
Speaker 4: Well let's get through the first how long is he
Speaker 4: going to be here? Gets the first season? First? Right,
Speaker 4: you're talking about football.
Speaker 5: I like, I'm talking football and assistant coaches and coaching
Speaker 5: in general at Arizona. I mean, I want I want
Speaker 5: coaches that are going to stay and build and have
Speaker 5: a program. Go ahead, And everybody everybody has pipe dreams
Speaker 5: of national championships, and I think Arizona's best shot is
Speaker 5: in baseball. To be honest with you, but you know, everybody,
Speaker 5: everybody is always wanting, you know, we should hire this
Speaker 5: young guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but to be here?
Speaker 5: How long?
Speaker 4: Go ahead?
Speaker 3: There you're talking as far as a head coach or
Speaker 3: assistant coaches.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm saying for head coaches, every you know, you
Speaker 5: see on on Twitter and and and in the social
Speaker 5: media is we always should go get this this young guy,
Speaker 5: you know, and it's like, yeah, but how long is
Speaker 5: he going to want.
Speaker 4: To be here?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: I mean usually, and usually it seems like the assistant
Speaker 3: coaches are the ones who are You're gonna jump after
Speaker 3: a couple of years maybe and get some experience, then
Speaker 3: go maybe to a smaller university. I don't know. It
Speaker 3: seems like that's kind of how it's usually worked. Although
Speaker 3: Kevin Vance pretty young, going to San Diego States is
Speaker 3: An isn't a good.
Speaker 4: Jump for him, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I had heard that it was his hometown.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that he played there. Of course he's going.
Speaker 4: To want to go there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna want to go there, and everybody thinks
Speaker 5: that's going to be a hot job. The only thing
Speaker 5: is Tony Gwynn didn't do anything coaching there. Of course,
Speaker 5: he was a player. He played there, But you know, done,
Speaker 5: it's let.
Speaker 2: Me don't put stock in Twitter. Don't put stock in Twitter.
Speaker 2: Just a bunch of dudes who have no time on
Speaker 2: their hands to put stuff on the internet.
Speaker 5: It's it's it's hard because I want to correct people
Speaker 5: like Howard last week. I well like Howard when he
Speaker 5: called in after after Arizona fell out of the World
Speaker 5: Series and he and he pooed college baseball. But if
Speaker 5: you were watching the telecast of our Friday game against Coastal,
Speaker 5: Ben McDonald said, fifty four percent of the opening day
Speaker 5: rosters in Major League Baseball where guys that had played
Speaker 5: college ball. Yeah, and it's fun baseball to watch. It's
Speaker 5: just it's you know, it's it's like college softball.
Speaker 4: It's fun.
Speaker 5: It's exciting because they hit and run, they steal, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 4: You know. It's it's baseball baseball, not like.
Speaker 5: Not like Major League baseball. I don't watch Major League Baseball.
Speaker 5: I don't even watch during the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's fun baseball.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, you can say a lot of the guys
Speaker 3: who played you said, a lot of guys who played college.
Speaker 3: I was watching the Diamondbacks last night. The catcher for
Speaker 3: the White Sox, oh he was, you know, he's in
Speaker 3: the College World Series. I mean you know people are
Speaker 3: making it. They're they're coming out of college, you know,
Speaker 3: at twenty two pretty well formed as a baseball player.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a kid that hit his last college
Speaker 5: home run last year in the College World Series, and
Speaker 5: just this last week he hit his first major league
Speaker 5: home run. In one year. He went from college to
Speaker 5: the big.
Speaker 2: That's and that's surprising obviously, right with like the schemes
Speaker 2: and the even the Gonzales kid who grew up here
Speaker 2: and played here, uh and then played in the majors
Speaker 2: pretty quickly.
Speaker 5: See what he said last night, He got up pretty fast.
Speaker 5: He went to New Mexico State, right, Nick Gonzalez was
Speaker 5: at New Mexico State, and then he got drafted and
Speaker 5: I think within two more years he was in the majors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Dave said, what do you happen?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: He went five for five last night. He's hit in
Speaker 3: like three twenty so he's been really hot. But he
Speaker 3: got hurt earlier in the year, I think running to
Speaker 3: first base. He either twisted his ankle or did something
Speaker 3: to one.
Speaker 4: Of his legs. But he's come back, so he's doing well.
Speaker 3: But you're right, Nick, product of New Mexico State and
Speaker 3: Sianaga High School.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was right here.
Speaker 4: Well, thanks done for your college. He was right here.
Speaker 5: But you just don't know what these baseball players there's
Speaker 5: so many of them right right.
Speaker 4: Thanks to bunch Man, appreciate it. Thanks for yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: Anybody else want to call, please do five two oh
Speaker 2: four one six seventy four forty take your call, no problem.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: Good to kind of find out what your listeners are
Speaker 3: going to be doing for sports this summer, Like what
Speaker 3: are they going to be watching until until football season?
Speaker 4: You can do a lot. I've tried to drop this
Speaker 4: call and he's still on. What are you doing? Done?
Speaker 4: Hang up? I'm trying to hang up.
Speaker 2: Donet Okay, Yeah, anybody else want to call, please do
Speaker 2: five to two oh four one six seventy four forty
Speaker 2: will take your call. We have there, we go. We
Speaker 2: have time for you guys to call in. We got
Speaker 2: about eight minutes uh before we get with Doug Holler.
Speaker 4: What were we talking about before?
Speaker 2: Not baseball or the draft, draft and anything that's going on.
Speaker 2: I'm finding guys to come on the show tomorrow and
Speaker 2: have Blake Eager on, so we'll get some more baseball stuff.
Speaker 4: Then you get the draft tomorrow.
Speaker 3: So that's gonna be a yeah, going to take over
Speaker 3: the National Sports News.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow for sure, with more trades probably coming in Earlier
Speaker 2: in the day.
Speaker 4: Oh, we were talking.
Speaker 2: About X guys, Did I google that Kobe Simmons remember him?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Plaid He had a few couples of coffees in the
Speaker 2: NBA at a few different places. And who would have
Speaker 2: thought that because he was just kind of the filling
Speaker 2: for Trier when Trier was out with his hand and
Speaker 2: all his all his issues, you know, And maybe that
Speaker 2: was like Solomon Hill lasted a long time too, he
Speaker 2: was in any long career, long career and just but
Speaker 2: a dude who just played well right, played smart, did
Speaker 2: what he did, kind of like a Luke Walton type. So,
Speaker 2: but this is kind of where Arizona made its legacy
Speaker 2: outside of being a successful program. A lot of dudes
Speaker 2: ended up in the NBA and and where are you
Speaker 2: going to go?
Speaker 3: The NBA factory And you know, you hope that you
Speaker 3: can if you really want to and play basketball somewhere
Speaker 3: along the road like Joseph Blair, Correy Williams, guys like
Speaker 3: that that picked up and went and played international basketball
Speaker 3: and had a great time and come back to Tucson.
Speaker 3: At times, Corey has Pete, Willie Williams, I mean a
Speaker 3: lot of guys, and he smid that and he Smith
Speaker 3: so I mean Alonzo true, I was just looking him up.
Speaker 3: You know, he really has stopped. Yeah, he played. He
Speaker 3: was waived in twenty twenty four out of the G League,
Speaker 3: so I mean he really did not play very long.
Speaker 2: He played one year I think with the Knicks, right
Speaker 2: for the Knicks signed that and he really had to shine.
Speaker 4: And he had that shining, shining year for you.
Speaker 2: Know, he was scoring, doing really well and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden he dropped out of the off the
Speaker 2: face of the It.
Speaker 3: Was waved by the Knicks in twenty twenty in June
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and he played for the in the G
Speaker 3: League and that's as far as he went. So there's
Speaker 3: no guarantees you could be all American.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem. He didn't know how to pass
Speaker 2: the dam ball exactly. You know, you know another guy
Speaker 2: who's been fantastic when I thought this was no brainer
Speaker 2: was Lori Markenen. I love how he played inside out
Speaker 2: game big guys. Just a fantastic player. Uh and probably
Speaker 2: in my mind, in my mind, Sean's best recruit.
Speaker 4: Well he was here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna have a nice career.
Speaker 2: I mean he's just getting he's already getting seven eight
Speaker 2: years in now or party more than that.
Speaker 3: I play another seven or eight more years and make
Speaker 3: a lot more money and fantastic player. Seems like, you know,
Speaker 3: he's kind of hidden away in Salt Lake City and
Speaker 3: you don't really see him as much as you because
Speaker 3: they're not any good, they're never on TV. Well here's
Speaker 3: another guy that's going to kind of fade away too,
Speaker 3: is DeAndre? I mean, what was the last thing we
Speaker 3: heard about him? Exactly?
Speaker 2: You know, they exiled them to Portland, and he's not
Speaker 2: a guy who to me, he's just a big dude
Speaker 2: who plays basketball. Well, not that he has a desire
Speaker 2: to play basketball. Does that make sense, Yeah, because he's
Speaker 2: always been that way. It was just not coming in.
Speaker 2: I remember those stories that we were asking Sewan and
Speaker 2: Sean poo poo dose, and then he got here and
Speaker 2: he was kind of still like, kind of indifferent to basketball,
Speaker 2: played when he wanted to.
Speaker 4: And that's such talent and such potential. Yeah, you never
Speaker 4: saw a guy like him that big. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 4: coach that size.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's huge, and he just never really showed
Speaker 3: the fire of the intensity.
Speaker 2: I guess, well, you can't coach that size, right, but
Speaker 2: you can't coach a guy who.
Speaker 4: Doesn't really feel it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Brian Williams was a little like that,
Speaker 2: you know, odd and off. Uh, and he was good.
Speaker 2: He was what a fantastic talent, but not every day
Speaker 2: right you know.
Speaker 3: But you know he also managed to stick around the
Speaker 3: NBA for quote quite a while too.
Speaker 2: Right, right, here's another guy who was fantastic and had
Speaker 2: that too, but not as much, uh, not as bad
Speaker 2: as Brian and or DeAndre Kalid.
Speaker 3: Was gonna just say, you asked me earlier about who
Speaker 3: might have been one of more disappointments right at the
Speaker 3: top in the top couple, and he was a fantastic
Speaker 3: round pick.
Speaker 2: He just he had the gate, he had the body,
Speaker 2: he had everything. And it was just like as Damon said,
Speaker 2: if he had my determination and work ethic, he would
Speaker 2: have been a superstar.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You wonder where that just where he lost that
Speaker 3: drive kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I think happened. I don't think he ever had it.
Speaker 2: Did he ever come with that Dave, I don't know this.
Speaker 2: I don't know this because it's never going to happen
Speaker 2: to me. When you're that good, sometimes you think I
Speaker 2: could just be as good, you know, and then guess what.
Speaker 4: Oh man, there's other.
Speaker 2: Dudes that are pretty good that have been working harder, yes,
Speaker 2: very much, helping their games more or just you know,
Speaker 2: learning how to become professional.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was first round pick I got. He
Speaker 3: couldn't have lasted more than five years, I guess in
Speaker 3: the NBA if.
Speaker 2: That right, and just a smooth talent, you know, and
Speaker 2: just give him the ball, get up the hell out
Speaker 2: of the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a good sidekick. Those two guys. I've
Speaker 3: said this a million times. When they hit the court,
Speaker 3: I think I've ever seen any two faster and two
Speaker 3: faster guards. But just the way they transformed from being
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of big guys two years before that.
Speaker 3: You know, these guys come flying out of the gate,
Speaker 3: and then Reggie being the third guy, totally changed the
Speaker 3: style of play, flipped it basically in like a three
Speaker 3: year period.
Speaker 4: It's pretty amazing this guy regards. Yeah, we gotta go now,
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Speaker 1: Steve Rivera, he's got his eye on the ball on
Speaker 1: Tucson's sports station yet Fox Sports sporteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I'm the ball here Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silverton. Now we
Speaker 2: have a longtime guest, Doug Holler from the Athletic How
Speaker 2: are you doing?
Speaker 4: Doug? You there?
Speaker 6: Hello, I'm here. Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I can hear you now? Yeah? Yeah? Hi? You taking
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty degree heat in Phoenix? How's that going?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean you would think after twenty years, i'd be
Speaker 6: used to it. I'm it's definitely not used to it.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm just trying to survive like everybody else.
Speaker 2: Right right with six million people. Good luck with that.
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't go as well. Hey, so the Sons,
Speaker 2: what the heck? Not a surprise, right? They've been talking
Speaker 2: about the trade at some point and it finally happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think after the trade deadline when
Speaker 6: they explored trading Kevin Durant and it didn't work out.
Speaker 6: I mean I think since then, it's just been kind
Speaker 6: of a countdown to what happened on Sunday. You know, Kevin,
Speaker 6: to his credit, knew that his time in Phoenix was
Speaker 6: over and he went out and still played hard, and
Speaker 6: you know, I mean he knew that this was coming.
Speaker 6: And I mean, I don't know, people the fact that
Speaker 6: the Sun's worked with him, I don't know if that
Speaker 6: was the smartest move. I think that kind of killed
Speaker 6: their leverage in a lot of ways. But maybe Kevin's
Speaker 6: learn that, you know, being in the league as long
Speaker 6: as he has, being as good as he's been. But
Speaker 6: you know, I could there have been a better deal
Speaker 6: out there for the Suns probably, but this is the
Speaker 6: one they chose and we'll see how it looks here
Speaker 6: in a few months.
Speaker 4: So if I could did real quick.
Speaker 2: So you covered the team, How was it covering him?
Speaker 2: Because I think we all think that he's sensitive to things,
Speaker 2: but is he?
Speaker 6: No, he it's well, it was awesome, and yeah, he's sensitive.
Speaker 6: The thing, I mean, he is aware of everything that's
Speaker 6: being written about him, that's being tweeted about him. So
Speaker 6: you know, he's not one you can't just throw questions out. Uh.
Speaker 4: If it's you know, something.
Speaker 6: That he knows that can be twisted to be made
Speaker 6: a headline, that's going to get a lot of reaction
Speaker 6: on social media. Uh. Just for an example, you know,
Speaker 6: I asked Mike Budenholzer early last year about, you know,
Speaker 6: how's Kevin been as a leader in your first month
Speaker 6: on the job, and he, you know, he went on said,
Speaker 6: Kevin's been great. I mean, he's been really you know,
Speaker 6: because Kevin has that reputation of not being a leader.
Speaker 6: So you know, about a week or two later, I
Speaker 6: went up to Kevin, it was just me and him
Speaker 6: in the locker room, and I said, hey, I want
Speaker 6: to ask you. I mentioned this. I asked, Bud, how
Speaker 6: you've been as a leader before he before the conversation
Speaker 6: even went one second further, he said, why'd you ask
Speaker 6: him that? One of what my intentions were about asking
Speaker 6: that and then But so, I mean, he was great
Speaker 6: to inter you. He is the most knowledgeable person. You
Speaker 6: could ask him, Steve, about anybody in the NBA, about
Speaker 6: college players and he would be he would know enough
Speaker 6: about them to give you an intelligent answer.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 6: Was he moody at times? No doubt, No doubt he
Speaker 6: was moody. Uh you know if there wasn't a question,
Speaker 6: if there was a question he didn't like, he would
Speaker 6: challenge you. But you know that's kind of what you know,
Speaker 6: we as journalists like kind of that back and forth.
Speaker 6: And he was great to cover in that regard.
Speaker 3: Meantime, they've they've kind of flipped their roster again for
Speaker 3: what the second time in what three years? And now
Speaker 3: we're going to have another coach, they have a high
Speaker 3: pick tomorrow.
Speaker 4: What do you see the.
Speaker 3: Future looking like here at least in the next year
Speaker 3: or so.
Speaker 6: Uh, Well, I know they're trying to kind of do
Speaker 6: like this soft rebuild where you know, they're not they're
Speaker 6: in a rough spot because it's they can't really tank
Speaker 6: to get you know, better draft position in the future
Speaker 6: because they've already given up that the draft, right, so
Speaker 6: you know, they got to try to stay competitive with
Speaker 6: Devin Booker. I don't see how it's gonna happen now.
Speaker 6: I have talked with a lot of people who know
Speaker 6: their new coach, Jordan Otwell, and they said, without quite
Speaker 6: they said, everyone's saying they're gonna be worse. He said,
Speaker 6: they're not gonna be worse than what they were. He'll
Speaker 6: have them fighting for a playoff spot. I don't know
Speaker 6: how far that gets them. I think they're a long
Speaker 6: way from you know, contending in the Western Conference. Uh
Speaker 6: you know, can they be you know, a team that
Speaker 6: gets that eighth spot, Yeah, that seventh spot in the playoffs?
Speaker 6: They can I don't know how much better they're gonna be,
Speaker 6: just because they're still you know, their roster still has
Speaker 6: major flaws. They still have to figure out what to
Speaker 6: do with Bradley deal, which was really what kind of
Speaker 6: killed them in the first place, making that trade. So
Speaker 6: they're still gonna make a lot of moves. They're going
Speaker 6: to try to do what they can to get rid
Speaker 6: of get off of Bradley Bill's contract. So we'll see
Speaker 6: they have they have a they're in position to do
Speaker 6: something in the draft, so we'll see what the roster
Speaker 6: looks like. But I think they're gonna it's going to
Speaker 6: be a couple of years of you know, of kind
Speaker 6: of struggling, you know, maybe get into the playoffs, but
Speaker 6: not not not doing much beyond that.
Speaker 2: So we do this for a living, right, We're doing
Speaker 2: it for a long time. But Dave did it for
Speaker 2: a long time. I did it for a long time.
Speaker 2: You do it continue, You cover some great stuff and
Speaker 2: it's what we were built for, right, So were there
Speaker 2: times covering a team like this because you do ASU
Speaker 2: and other things that you said, God, I don't want
Speaker 2: to go to that. I don't want to go to
Speaker 2: the arena to deal with this stuff because it's sometimes
Speaker 2: it seems like it would be tough with these personalities
Speaker 2: that you have to deal with.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I first covered the Sun, so gosh, it was.
Speaker 14: Well.
Speaker 6: I was around during the Nash years and Amari years.
Speaker 6: That was awesome. That was fun, and then I was
Speaker 6: brought back. Of course, I coverers will stay for a
Speaker 6: long time and then there was a year that I
Speaker 6: was brought back into it during It was Devin Booker's
Speaker 6: second year. Earl Watson was there. They won twenty games.
Speaker 6: They were terrible thirteen year a row that year, but
Speaker 6: it was still fun covering the NBA steam. You would
Speaker 6: still go, I mean, the whole basketball universe was available
Speaker 6: to you. You would go on the road, you know,
Speaker 6: if you just waited out, if you wanted to get somebody,
Speaker 6: you could find them. It was fun. I had a
Speaker 6: blast cover him that year. This year was the most mimorable,
Speaker 6: most miserable. And you know, I don't travel with him
Speaker 6: except in the playoffs, so I was out there mostly
Speaker 6: just a home game, but it was it was miserable
Speaker 6: there that last month of the year. Mike Budenholzer, I think,
Speaker 6: kind of knew his fate and it was surprising to me.
Speaker 6: I knew he did not have, you know, a reputation.
Speaker 6: He kind of was groomed under Greg Popovich, so I
Speaker 6: knew he wasn't great with the media, but it just
Speaker 6: seemed like everyone walked I mean, Sun staffers, everyone just
Speaker 6: kind of walked on eggshells around him. He was just
Speaker 6: not a pleasant person, not me, not rude, but just
Speaker 6: unwilling mostly. You know, he's been in the league for
Speaker 6: his whole taught adult life. You would think he could
Speaker 6: tell some stories about Tim Duncan. No, you weren't going
Speaker 6: to get anything like that. And then you know, towards
Speaker 6: the end, when Kevin knew he was going to be
Speaker 6: on the way out Bradley Beal in his no trade clause,
Speaker 6: it was just a miserable People were kind of waiting
Speaker 6: for the end of the season for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, those are not the fun time. What do
Speaker 2: you think they'll do with Beal? Is there a way
Speaker 2: they can get rid of him?
Speaker 6: Well, they're they're gonna try, They're gonna explore it. There
Speaker 6: are two options. You could find a trade partner for him,
Speaker 6: which I have a hard time believing. They tried at
Speaker 6: the trade deadline, and you know, no one. As it
Speaker 6: turns out, there's not a huge market for guy owed
Speaker 6: one hundred and ten million over two years, who is
Speaker 6: just mostly unreliable just because of his injury history. Know,
Speaker 6: when brad was healthy, I thought he was good at
Speaker 6: times last year, particularly coming off the bench. He played
Speaker 6: hard for a while, and I thought there were times
Speaker 6: where he was just kind of going through the motions,
Speaker 6: which happens to in an NBA season. So they could
Speaker 6: try to find a trade partner, and of course there
Speaker 6: are no guarantees with that because he can he can
Speaker 6: decline the trade, he can be tow the trade with
Speaker 6: his no trade clause. The other option, they could negotiate
Speaker 6: some sort of kind of settlement and kind of wave
Speaker 6: and stretch him to where they're paying him off over
Speaker 6: the next five years. For that to happen, you know,
Speaker 6: brad would have to take less money, which would he
Speaker 6: do that? I don't know. In order for them, I
Speaker 6: think to even get to that point, I think they
Speaker 6: would have to say, like, hey, look something that may
Speaker 6: be happy with Drake J. Crowder a few years ago
Speaker 6: when he was here, just say like, hey, you know,
Speaker 6: don't come around the team, and I do know that
Speaker 6: Bradley Beali's competitor wants to play. That may be where
Speaker 6: we end up. And then the third option is that
Speaker 6: they just have to bringing back next year, go just
Speaker 6: fight through it, and then he'll have a little bit
Speaker 6: more value the following year, when you know Kings might
Speaker 6: be interested in getting that contract because it's the final
Speaker 6: year of that contract and making cash in on it,
Speaker 6: but no good options, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: So now with getting the tenth pick tomorrow, Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: everyone says, oh, I'm hearing that, h Carter Bryant could
Speaker 2: go to Phoenix. You know they're hearing because somebody put
Speaker 2: it on a mock draft. Are you doing a mock draft?
Speaker 2: And what do you think about number ten tomorrow?
Speaker 6: I've not done a mock draft in a long time.
Speaker 4: Smart.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Uh, he makes sense for them. They
Speaker 6: need size on the wing, for sure. They do have
Speaker 6: some some players. They have a lot of backcourt players
Speaker 6: who can kind of you know, play the wing positions,
Speaker 6: but they're not very big. And you know, Carter Bryant.
Speaker 12: Has that side.
Speaker 6: He's a great shooter. You know, it's interacting. I mean,
Speaker 6: like I probably like you, Steve. I mean I saw
Speaker 6: Carter up close a few times this year and I
Speaker 6: never thought that he was ready for right. But as
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, it's not necessarily production. It's you know,
Speaker 6: the the profile, it's you know, the skills that you have.
Speaker 6: They got to go side on the wing. Well, sides
Speaker 6: on the wing would be one way to go if
Speaker 6: they need. You know, they're really really thin in the
Speaker 6: front court. So it wouldn't be It wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 6: If you know the kid from Duke, the big kid,
Speaker 6: if he's around, I don't know if he will be.
Speaker 6: I think he would be somebody they would look at.
Speaker 6: You know, if there's a few pure point guard that
Speaker 6: you know is around there. The Yakatona's kid from Illinois
Speaker 6: might be good. He's a good playmaker. But you know,
Speaker 6: they need to they need to really make that pick count.
Speaker 6: That was the big key in the in the Durant
Speaker 6: trade was getting that number kid pick. If they can,
Speaker 6: if they get hit on that, that would that would
Speaker 6: definitely put them in a better position to where they
Speaker 6: are right now.
Speaker 2: You've been there forever a long time at least. And
Speaker 2: how are the fans dealing dealing with this?
Speaker 4: Are they?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 6: God?
Speaker 2: This this because this franchise is kind of like, you know,
Speaker 2: hasn't won. They were in the finals a few years ago,
Speaker 2: but that's been like the latest success since Study three
Speaker 2: in Charles. Uh, it's kind of are they begging like
Speaker 2: people here begging it's too strong aboard like here with
Speaker 2: you try and get back to the final four.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I mean Matt HB has taken a
Speaker 6: lot of blame from the fans. I mean when he came,
Speaker 6: you know, and coming off the Farvard years, you have
Speaker 6: an owner who's going immediately bring trades with Kevin Durant,
Speaker 6: who shows he's not afraid to spend money. But you know,
Speaker 6: you could go through all the moves they've made the
Speaker 6: last three years since he's been here, Kevin Durant, Bradley Beale,
Speaker 6: maybe over spending for Grayson Allen. You know a lot
Speaker 6: of these have not worked out really well in the product.
Speaker 6: You can see the results on the court. So you know,
Speaker 6: I don't know how popular he is right now with
Speaker 6: the fan base, but you know there are really hardcore fans.
Speaker 6: I spent one night during the season late year before
Speaker 6: they decided they were going to build around Devin Booker,
Speaker 6: just asking fans like, you know, what would it mean?
Speaker 6: This is right after Luka Danzik was traded, what would
Speaker 6: happen if the Sun's traded them Booker? And it was
Speaker 6: more so I got, you know, I got the people
Speaker 6: say like if they if they trade Devin Booker, I'm
Speaker 6: done with them. I got a few of those, but
Speaker 6: more so Steve than than not. It was fans like,
Speaker 6: you know, if that's what's best for in the organization,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't like it, but I would be I would
Speaker 6: be behind him, you know, I'll support the team no
Speaker 6: matter what. So I was a little bit surprised by that.
Speaker 6: So I think, you know, there's there's some diehard fans
Speaker 6: here who you know, they're not happy with the way
Speaker 6: things are going, but they're they're they're willing to stick
Speaker 6: around just to just because that's the team. This is
Speaker 6: the team they've always followed, and they're going to continue
Speaker 6: to do that.
Speaker 3: Have you been following the whole Diamondback story with the stadium?
Speaker 3: Is that something you've been covering with the money that's covering?
Speaker 6: Uh, not covering, monitoring is probably a better word.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 6: I was out there last weekend when they were trying
Speaker 6: to get people to you know, sign and uh a petition.
Speaker 6: I think it was. You know, I think it's it's good.
Speaker 6: Obviously it's good for PETINGIX. I don't think this town
Speaker 6: could afford to lose another pro sports franchise, especially the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 6: That stadium to me, you know, when it's open. I
Speaker 6: don't know if you guys have been there, recently. When
Speaker 6: it's open, when the panels are open, the roof of open,
Speaker 6: it's a nice place to watch baseball game, I think.
Speaker 6: But I do know that there are some repairs that
Speaker 6: you know, they've had to do, and you know, the
Speaker 6: diyingbacks don't own the building, so they've asked for help.
Speaker 6: So it seems like it's going in the right direction,
Speaker 6: just me the governor's signature to to put that into law.
Speaker 6: Uh So in that sense, I think the people here
Speaker 6: are a little bit believed that they don't have to
Speaker 6: go through another situation like the Coyotes.
Speaker 3: What do they need to do to the stadium? Anything
Speaker 3: you can talk about specific I.
Speaker 6: Think it's just more infrastructure stuff, stuff that's been ongoing
Speaker 6: for a long time. I think that's the main thing.
Speaker 6: I don't know the specifics of it. So yeah, I
Speaker 6: think that's a lot and you know it's you think
Speaker 6: about it, it does it.
Speaker 4: It is an.
Speaker 6: Older one of the older stadiums, so uh it's probably
Speaker 6: I know it's due for a lot of upgrades and repairs.
Speaker 6: So I think that's, you know, just infrastructure stuff. I
Speaker 6: don't know specifically needs to be done.
Speaker 4: I think it's what thirty five years old. God, that
Speaker 4: makes me feel old.
Speaker 3: No, well.
Speaker 4: Eight, so.
Speaker 2: One of the olders, one of the oldest, really makes
Speaker 2: me feel old because it just happens that way. So
Speaker 2: are you covering some ASU stuff when they start coming
Speaker 2: back for football.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I've been out there a little bit over
Speaker 6: the off season and you know, just trying to you know,
Speaker 6: make sure you know, it feels like they're Yeah, it
Speaker 6: seems like they're you know, you know the story. You
Speaker 6: guys know the story. I mean Arizona State, Like Arizona
Speaker 6: has had good years and the problems always been sustaining it.
Speaker 6: Right outside of probably the the two years, the back
Speaker 6: to back ten win season with Ty Grant, it seems
Speaker 6: like they're probably his best position to build off that.
Speaker 6: I know. Their quarterback Sam Levitt's getting some early Heisman attentions,
Speaker 6: for whatever that's worth. But you know, he was a
Speaker 6: guy last year, to be honest, when he first started
Speaker 6: early in the season, the first couple of games, I
Speaker 6: wasn't I asn't sold on him, but you know, being
Speaker 6: you know, the long term solution at quarterback. But man,
Speaker 6: did he just keep getting better and better and better
Speaker 6: and better. It'll be interesting to see what they can
Speaker 6: do without Cam s Kataboo, just because he was so
Speaker 6: important to what they did. But you know, having you know,
Speaker 6: as many start returning starters that they do, you know,
Speaker 6: Jordan Tyson, a receiver who will probably be a preseason
Speaker 6: All American, you know, they're in a pretty good position,
Speaker 6: I think too, you know, at least challenge in the
Speaker 6: Big twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just I don't just your thoughts, because I know
Speaker 2: you saw him play at least a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Caleb Love just kind of an enigma can play. But
Speaker 2: are you not good enough?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, enigma is a great word. I think you could
Speaker 6: watch Caleb Love twenty times and come away with a
Speaker 6: different opinion everywhere, you know, towards the you know, in
Speaker 6: the NCAA. I'll be honest, I thought, you know what,
Speaker 6: maybe he might be a better pro than he is
Speaker 6: a college player. I don't know what made me think that,
Speaker 6: but I do know that my respect level for him
Speaker 6: went way up, as everyone should have right in the
Speaker 6: nc definitely tournament just because they needed him and he delivered.
Speaker 6: I mean, he was really really good.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 6: Just was it the game against Duke where I thought like, Okay,
Speaker 6: Duke's going away. Yeah, he wasn't going to let him
Speaker 6: do that. There's something to be said for somebody I
Speaker 6: think who you know doesn't do it. It maybe may
Speaker 6: not be pretty all the time, may shoot three for
Speaker 6: fourteen in a couple of games in a row, but
Speaker 6: still you know, doesn't isn't afraid of the moment, not
Speaker 6: afraid to take the shot that needs to be taken
Speaker 6: in those moments. And I think he's definitely one of
Speaker 6: those guys. And I think somehow that that translates to
Speaker 6: the to the NBA better than some of the other
Speaker 6: skills that we measure in college.
Speaker 2: Right, No, I totally agree with you. I just don't know,
Speaker 2: there's got to be more than just basketball with him
Speaker 2: because it's just oddan. He's a good player. But you're right,
Speaker 2: you want some twenty times you see that. Wow, there's
Speaker 2: a different look. Yeah, Doug, as usual, thank you for
Speaker 2: your insight. Appreciate it having good.
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to tind the ball Here on Fox
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Speaker 2: got about twelve minutes or so. You guys want to call,
Speaker 2: please do five to zero, four, one, six, seventy four forty.
Speaker 2: We'll take your call. There's a new video out with
Speaker 2: the Carter Bryant. I guess he just spent about twelve
Speaker 2: minutes out in New York being interviewed for tomorrow's big draft.
Speaker 4: It was It's funny though.
Speaker 2: One of the things that he said in the first
Speaker 2: five minutes, I said he had always planned on being
Speaker 2: a two year guy, not a one year guy. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think I've always heard he was gonna
Speaker 2: be a one year guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he didn't didn't play a lot, and
Speaker 3: you know, he's obviously going on the potential situation where
Speaker 3: people think he's gonna do do some good things. We
Speaker 3: saw some great moments, you know, some highlights. Almost every
Speaker 3: game he played, it seemed like he had a highlight,
Speaker 3: but didn't play a lot average what six points a game.
Speaker 3: But he's there in New York and he's wherever the
Speaker 3: draft is in Brooklyn, Yeah, doing the news, doing the
Speaker 3: news conferences.
Speaker 4: Today.
Speaker 3: He'll be there and getting ready to be selected tomorrow.
Speaker 3: So are probably in the ten to fifteen range is
Speaker 3: kind of what we've been seeing with a mock draft
Speaker 3: for what those are worth. Remember Team Act, we weren't
Speaker 3: quite sure where he was going to get picked, and
Speaker 3: he goes number seven, So that turned out pretty well
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 2: Give me a second, give me a second. I want
Speaker 2: to try to play. Okay, I have him on, Henry.
Speaker 2: Henry says, it's one of these one of these things.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's on. I don't think it's work
Speaker 2: because it's one of these monks and it's not all
Speaker 2: can't hear it because we'd be able to hear it.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, he handles himself well.
Speaker 2: That's the whole thing part of the media to if
Speaker 2: you remember it, if you remember two three years ago
Speaker 2: when Dalien came out right and we're thinking, what is
Speaker 2: he doing. He's not ready for the NBA, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: but he he was obviously athletic. But he handled himself
Speaker 2: so well that they did. Chicago at least found it.
Speaker 2: He found him worthy enough to draft him. Sure, and
Speaker 2: h Carter Bryant's probably more reserved. But a bright kid,
Speaker 2: has a nice background, speaks well, and here we are.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's such an important time for them.
Speaker 3: It's an important time for these teams. Doug Haller was
Speaker 3: who we just talked to talking about the Suns have
Speaker 3: so many.
Speaker 4: Different things going on with you know, new coach.
Speaker 3: They traded away half their team, They traded away one
Speaker 3: of the best players of all time, and they got
Speaker 3: the number ten pick on the draft him.
Speaker 4: There's a lot going on just in.
Speaker 3: These couple of days with Phoenix and that guy like
Speaker 3: Carter Bryant. He could be he could be dropped into
Speaker 3: that drama possibly to you know, do you really want
Speaker 3: to go there at this point?
Speaker 2: I think the check cash is fine and he'll be
Speaker 2: a star. I mean, I don't know if he'll sell
Speaker 2: more tickets, but people from here will go see him play. Yeah,
Speaker 2: probably see a more playoff. We see him play more
Speaker 2: up there than he did down here.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 3: We'll play a lot more games total if he's you know,
Speaker 3: if he's healthy and can go.
Speaker 4: It's funny.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you saw him, and I saw him a
Speaker 2: lot earlier because I covered the team, But he was
Speaker 2: like a baby deer, a baby deer coming out very shy,
Speaker 2: very you know, wanted to find his place. Wasn't very aggressive,
Speaker 2: and then about early January he kind of found that rhythm. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then by that time Tommy didn't want to screw
Speaker 2: up the lineup.
Speaker 3: And you know, you come in with all these expectations,
Speaker 3: you know, McDonald's all American and all the stuff that
Speaker 3: you know comes with that, and just just coming too
Speaker 3: a program like this where you're gonna get a lot
Speaker 3: of attention. I'm sure that he felt the pressure, and
Speaker 3: you know, maybe he just wasn't you know, maybe ready
Speaker 3: in October November, but like you said, my January he
Speaker 3: kind of got a little more comfortable. He knew that,
Speaker 3: you know, Tommy wasn't going to yank him if he
Speaker 3: you know, kind of stumbled a little bit, and he
Speaker 3: was making plays, I mean, especially defensively. He had a
Speaker 3: lot of great block shots and things like that that
Speaker 3: you kind of forget about when you're watching highlights of
Speaker 3: a game, but sometimes that's the most important part.
Speaker 2: In that interview, early on he talked about his favorite
Speaker 2: thing to do is pass and I don't remember him
Speaker 2: being a great of a passer, although I wasn't noticing it.
Speaker 2: And then he says playing defense that too. I mean,
Speaker 2: because he was a freshman, right and what's the last
Speaker 2: thing the freshman want to do.
Speaker 4: Play defense?
Speaker 3: Well, sometimes that's what's going to keep him on the court.
Speaker 3: You know he's not getting burned because like a lot
Speaker 3: other times, you know, you're watching somebody just getting you know,
Speaker 3: moved around her maneuver, you're not in a position. It
Speaker 3: seemed like he was pretty good at that. I think
Speaker 3: did he did He have one big play where he
Speaker 3: committed a foul late in the game.
Speaker 4: Was it him, I don't remember what game was.
Speaker 3: Happened towards some guy in the corner set a three pointer,
Speaker 3: like near the end of the game, and he fouled
Speaker 3: them like.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably those are like freshman mistakes sometimes, but he
Speaker 3: was trying to make a play which happens.
Speaker 4: Did you see the Red Blue game? Were you there?
Speaker 2: So that's kind of when you realize how good he
Speaker 2: was athletic. I think he won the dunk contest and
Speaker 2: then he was a heck of a shooter. I think
Speaker 2: he may have won the three point contest too, being
Speaker 2: his size and his long arms and his ability to
Speaker 2: play multiple positions.
Speaker 3: So he definitely has the He definitely has the body
Speaker 3: and the skill. It looks like just to move up
Speaker 3: to that next levelt least he thinks he does. And
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure he did work out with teams
Speaker 3: and oh ye yeah, if they're picking him projecting him,
Speaker 3: I should say, you know in the ten to fifteen range,
Speaker 3: those teams have seen him and they're probably going to
Speaker 3: pick them right.
Speaker 2: You know, I would be surprised now that I see
Speaker 2: all these mock drofts now with the result with Phoenix
Speaker 2: and then what Doug said that they need somebody like him.
Speaker 2: You know, when Saint Stanley Johnson came out in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: it was and it was not a surprise because he
Speaker 2: was the one undone guy and knew it. My question
Speaker 2: to him was, you know, are you ready? Are you
Speaker 2: really ready for this? Because the NBA is a big
Speaker 2: man's lea. It's it's a it's a man's league. It's
Speaker 2: a man's league, although it's a young man's league, right
Speaker 2: because you know, look at Okay, see the youngest team
Speaker 2: out there in forever winning the title, and it's a
Speaker 2: it's a young man's game, but it's still a man's game.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a big night for Duke. They're gonna
Speaker 3: probably three or four guys picking the top.
Speaker 2: Well it's been that way for Arizona that time or
Speaker 2: two right, Yeah, but it's Duke. So we'll see what.
Speaker 2: I saw one D and one in one of the drafts.
Speaker 2: I can't you know, I've looked at so many. I
Speaker 2: might have been on s I where they had Carter
Speaker 2: going to Oklahoma City with with what number in the
Speaker 2: again in that range, which will be an interesting landing
Speaker 2: spot for I don't see him playing a whole hecu
Speaker 2: a lot next year.
Speaker 4: Now. I just don't depends on the team it really does,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, if it's going to.
Speaker 3: Be a team that needs instant help, I'll just throw
Speaker 3: him out there and see.
Speaker 4: What he can. Then he'd get lost. You know, when
Speaker 4: you're playing with a bad team.
Speaker 3: If you're going to be a first round pick, they
Speaker 3: kind of expect you to you know, if you played
Speaker 3: for the Sons, you expect to be playing a lot
Speaker 3: starting if you're ready to go.
Speaker 2: Right right, We'll see what happens with him. Good luck
Speaker 2: to him and to to Caleb as well. I can't
Speaker 2: remember the last time it was like I saw Caleb situation,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure they're out there I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe a Nick Johnson who was a fantastic player in
Speaker 2: college but was not was not an NBA guy, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Too short, but athletic as all hell,
Speaker 2: and maybe even like yuh and I hate to compare this,
Speaker 2: but this name popped into my mind.
Speaker 4: Hasan Adams.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, a guy who could do a
Speaker 2: lot of different things, but it wasn't didn't have a position.
Speaker 2: He needed to be like two or three inches taller. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know where he you know where he best
Speaker 2: played under the basket. He was fantastic and whenever when
Speaker 2: Luke moved him to the perimeter, it was like you
Speaker 2: lost something. A guy who could rebound at any against anybody.
Speaker 9: He could.
Speaker 3: It was tough inside. He was great, but he wasn't
Speaker 3: going to play there in the NBA. No, he did
Speaker 3: play a little bit, right, He played a year or two,
Speaker 3: a couple of coffee. But yeah, he couldn't have been
Speaker 3: more than six four six. No, he could jump out
Speaker 3: of the gym, but he couldn't play it outside. He
Speaker 3: couldn't be a wing. He couldn't shoot good enough? Is
Speaker 3: that proper English? Well enough? Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, ESPN has Cardiff wand English.
Speaker 3: I was the wrong dude, ESPN mock draft Carter Bryant
Speaker 3: eleven to.
Speaker 4: Portland, Portland, Yeah, well that was was.
Speaker 2: That he who did it ESPN, ESPN okay today, So
Speaker 2: they moved him down one who they put a ten.
Speaker 3: Colin Murray Boyles again moved South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Okay, because they had him at ten earlier I think
Speaker 2: in the day or Yes.
Speaker 3: Interesting, there's usually a number of international players in that
Speaker 3: top group and this year really there's only.
Speaker 4: Like a Spain in that mix.
Speaker 2: A lot of them aren't going to be coming playing
Speaker 2: for the college teams now because it can make some moneys, right, However,
Speaker 2: they're doing.
Speaker 4: It exactly right. So yeah, I mean really remember.
Speaker 3: The last few years of a couple of guys from
Speaker 3: France were picked in.
Speaker 4: The top top five.
Speaker 3: The guy from Duke I'm want to butcher his name,
Speaker 3: but come on, mallow walk the Center. Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: from he's from Africa. But still, you know, here's a
Speaker 3: guy from Germany picked possibly to Toronto. But yeah, really,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of a lot of the American college
Speaker 3: players who stuck Wonder made their money and now they're
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 2: I guess Bruce would know this. But is Tommy already
Speaker 2: in Switzerland?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You can start this weekend this weekend, right, so I'm
Speaker 2: wondering if he is going to be in New York.
Speaker 2: And maybe because you typically that's the situation, it could
Speaker 2: be a stopping off wint to get out to be
Speaker 2: there in the green room or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My only NBA expert with the draft was h They
Speaker 2: sent me to Vancouver when Mike Bibby was going to
Speaker 2: be the potential number one guy. Uh, and I wrote
Speaker 2: a column because we all kind of knew that either
Speaker 2: he was going to be number one or number two.
Speaker 2: And your guy, your guy at Stockton you mentioned his
Speaker 2: name not too long ago, the big guy Conny, because
Speaker 2: you know why, they were telling me, you can't teach hyde,
Speaker 2: but you can teach basketball, and you didn't have to
Speaker 2: teach bike baby basketball. And so he went to Vancouver
Speaker 2: and Ali Condi went to Clippers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because
Speaker 2: then I wrote a column the Clippers were just being
Speaker 2: the Clippers because that was our history.
Speaker 3: Right and a chance to get the best guard in
Speaker 3: the country and they do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then well then he had help because Michael Dickerson
Speaker 2: went to Vancouver as well, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was an interesting sign on the
Speaker 3: from the TV side of things. We never went to
Speaker 3: the draft, but we were given access to the players,
Speaker 3: like they would set up these, yeah, one on one
Speaker 3: interviews literally like twenty minutes after they were drafted. They
Speaker 3: put them in front of some screen and then they
Speaker 3: would call in and we could interview them like they
Speaker 3: were you know, the two box.
Speaker 2: That was the best way because let me tell you something,
Speaker 2: going to Vancouver didn't help me. It was a big,
Speaker 2: big room with people and sometimes you got them and
Speaker 2: sometimes you didn't. Yeah, and then you have to use
Speaker 2: the quote chets or whatever. Yeah, because they were parading
Speaker 2: them everywhere.
Speaker 3: Now, this is really really well set up. They would
Speaker 3: just like go from station to station and they would
Speaker 3: go NBC, CBS affiliates or whatever, and they put them up,
Speaker 3: put a little earpiece in microphone, off they go.
Speaker 2: Dave, that was quick man, two hours of talking sports.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming in today anytime, maybe Thursday. I'll see
Speaker 2: maybe Thursday. Thanks everybody for listening. A decent show today.
Speaker 2: We'll see you guys tomorrow. Thanks appreciate it.