Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host, Samantha Fay.
Speaker 1: I'm Dead Bowen, and today we're going to be talking
Speaker 1: about phone calls from the dead, well, and since we're
Speaker 1: into the twenty first century, emails and texts from the
Speaker 1: dead as well. Now, a lot of people might think
Speaker 1: this is impossible, but deb you've had your own experience
Speaker 1: with this.
Speaker 2: I certainly have, Samantha, and it was such a gift,
Speaker 2: so let me tell people about it. When my mom
Speaker 2: got very sick, she made the decision to move into
Speaker 2: a nursing home. My sister and I tried to talk
Speaker 2: out of it. We said, we take care of her.
Speaker 2: She said no, So into a nursing home she went.
Speaker 2: And the two and a half years that she lived
Speaker 2: in that nursing home were absolutely wonderful. She came, she blossomed,
Speaker 2: she became president of the Residence Council. She was well loved.
Speaker 2: It was just a beautiful experience in a lovely, lovely facility.
Speaker 2: And I had this habit. I had this ritual where
Speaker 2: every night at six o'clock I called her. It didn't
Speaker 2: matter if I had just left at five point thirty,
Speaker 2: if i'd been out there in the afternoon, or if
Speaker 2: I was coming back later in the evening, I called
Speaker 2: her at six o'clock and she answered and we chatted
Speaker 2: for a few minutes. I did that regardless of where
Speaker 2: I was in the country or the world. I called
Speaker 2: my mama at six o'clock, and as she got sicker
Speaker 2: and sicker, I continued that habit until towards the end,
Speaker 2: until the end.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: In fact, let me tell this little side story. Mama
Speaker 2: had a bird. The nursing home in which she lived
Speaker 2: had was part of an Eden project, and they had
Speaker 2: wonderful animals there for the residents. And Mama had a
Speaker 2: cockatil in her room who she named Nicki, and she
Speaker 2: would talk to Nicki, and she taught Niki to talk,
Speaker 2: and she taught Niki to whistle and to sort of sing.
Speaker 2: And I remember a night where she told me to
Speaker 2: hang on a minute and she I heard her talking,
Speaker 2: and I thought she was talking to a nurse or
Speaker 2: someone who would come into a room. And I said, Mom,
Speaker 2: who are you talking to? She said Nicki. I said, Mama,
Speaker 2: you can talk to the bird after we hang up,
Speaker 2: and we laughed and off we went. So anyway, so
Speaker 2: we had this lovely conversation every night at six o'clock.
Speaker 2: And then my mom died. She died on a Friday
Speaker 2: night at about quarter to seven, and I was with
Speaker 2: her that night at six o'clock. And then her funeral
Speaker 2: was on Monday. And it was a long weekend of
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff going on to honor my mom
Speaker 2: and to deal with all the things that one has
Speaker 2: to do to get ready for a funeral. And her
Speaker 2: funeral was mid afternoon, and I came home and there
Speaker 2: were more than three hundred people in my house off
Speaker 2: and on during that afternoon. Such an outpouring of love.
Speaker 2: It was just wonderful. And towards late afternoon and early evening,
Speaker 2: folks began to go away and to dwindle, as she
Speaker 2: would imagine they would, and the phone rank, and I
Speaker 2: looked up at the clock and it was six o'clock.
Speaker 2: I picked up on the phone and I said hello,
Speaker 2: and there was no one there. I said hello, and
Speaker 2: there was no one there, and I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: wrong number. And this was in the days where you
Speaker 2: had landlines hanging on a wall. Right. We had just
Speaker 2: reached a point, I think, in that point of time
Speaker 2: when we had telephones that were not courted. I forget
Speaker 2: what you call this, but not corded phones, and you
Speaker 2: could see caller ID cordless that's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker 2: Thank you, And there was a caller ID on the
Speaker 2: little tiny screen on the receiver and it just said
Speaker 2: unknown number, I think is what it said. So I
Speaker 2: put the phone back up, and you know, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of still in shock and readling from having just had
Speaker 2: my mom's funeral, so I didn't think too much of it.
Speaker 2: The next night, at six o'clock, I was in the
Speaker 2: house and by myself, and the phone rang and I
Speaker 2: looked at the clock and I thought, oh, I know
Speaker 2: what this is. So I answered the phone and again
Speaker 2: it said no caller idea or a no number or
Speaker 2: whatever it said. And I said hello, and I said, Mama,
Speaker 2: I am so happy to hear from you. Please keep
Speaker 2: calling me. It makes me feel so good to know
Speaker 2: that we can still stay in communication. And it was silent,
Speaker 2: but it was a I don't know how else to
Speaker 2: describe this other than to say it was a hollow silence.
Speaker 2: I was very aware that there was somebody at the
Speaker 2: other end of that phone, and I thanked her profusely
Speaker 2: and told her. I hoped the week. I mean I
Speaker 2: taught her right a while about I hope she enjoyed
Speaker 2: the funeral, and hope that she was happy with the
Speaker 2: all Thist song we picked because that was important to
Speaker 2: her and all the things that happened her lovely service.
Speaker 2: And then she never called again. But I think she
Speaker 2: and I both needed that one more time to say
Speaker 2: I love you, to talk about just whatever had happened
Speaker 2: during the course of the day, and in this case
Speaker 2: it was, you know, the celebration of her life and
Speaker 2: the time of that. And she never called me again,
Speaker 2: but that those two calls really solidified for me as
Speaker 2: if I needed it, but I was happy to have it,
Speaker 2: the idea that there is this continuity of life and
Speaker 2: this continuation of how we can stay in touch with
Speaker 2: loved ones on the other side using today all this
Speaker 2: electronic stuff. So I'll turn it over to you, Samantha.
Speaker 1: I love that story, and I love that she didn't
Speaker 1: hang up, because that's something you'll see in a lot
Speaker 1: of the stories we've gathered for today's show, is the
Speaker 1: phone will ring and no one's there, but the phone
Speaker 1: also doesn't disconnect. It's as though someone's there. You know,
Speaker 1: which is interesting. And I like that she didn't call
Speaker 1: back after she knew you got it, she knew you
Speaker 1: knew it was her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I feel like she probably had a lot to do.
Speaker 2: She was probably busy. That's efritable, you know. And other
Speaker 2: and psychics I've seen and talked to, including you, since
Speaker 2: she died, have told me that she was very busy
Speaker 2: on the other side, and I believe that to be true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, for sure. She was a social butterfly.
Speaker 2: She was, indeed so.
Speaker 1: In recent years, this phenomenon of posthumous communication has intrigued
Speaker 1: everyone from the curious to the skeptical, even Thomas Edison.
Speaker 1: He was speculating before his death to reporters about the
Speaker 1: possibility of building a machine so sensitive that it could
Speaker 1: communicate with the dead. Both Edison and Alexander Graham Bell,
Speaker 1: who invented the telephone, experimented with telepathy by winding wires
Speaker 1: around people's heads. It didn't work, but in nineteen forty one, however,
Speaker 1: an alleged blueprint of Edison's machine his idea for this
Speaker 1: phone call to the dead, supposedly surfaced in New York,
Speaker 1: and the apparatus consisted of an aluminum speaking trumpet connected
Speaker 1: to an aerial wire which dangled down into the middle
Speaker 1: of the trumpet, which, along with the side of the
Speaker 1: aluminum cone, formed the opposite poles of a battery, and
Speaker 1: then potassium permanniganet. I have no idea how to pronounce that.
Speaker 1: Do you know how to pronounce that?
Speaker 2: I've never heard that word before.
Speaker 1: I know well, potassium blah blah blah, attached to the
Speaker 1: wire in the trumpet served as an electrolyte between it
Speaker 1: and the cone, and the machine allegedly amplified any ether
Speaker 1: waves generated inside the trumpet and directed against the aerial
Speaker 1: Now it's impossible to say whether these blueprints were actually
Speaker 1: Edison's own design or just a hoax. Most people think
Speaker 1: they were frauds. Some of Edison's former associates built in
Speaker 1: operating model of the machine based on these blueprints, but
Speaker 1: it didn't work. So even if we can't scientifically invent
Speaker 1: a heavenly phone apparatus to call our deceased loved ones,
Speaker 1: there are many, many stories, including deths of the dead
Speaker 1: calling us. Paranormal researcher and writer Brad Steiger says phone
Speaker 1: calls from the dead have been recognized for decades by
Speaker 1: the paranormal community, and there are many audio tape recordings
Speaker 1: containing the voices of deceased persons. It's simply a fact
Speaker 1: that the dead want to communicate with the living, and
Speaker 1: he has a whole book on this called Touched by
Speaker 1: Heaven's Light, where he recounts several stories of electronic spirit communications.
Speaker 1: He says, if you believe, as I do, that the
Speaker 1: dead often have unfinished business on Earth, then you can
Speaker 1: understand that emails and phone calls are just another route
Speaker 1: to the living, especially to loved ones, relatives, and other
Speaker 1: significant individuals. One story he tells is of a graduate
Speaker 1: student in biology who received not a phone call, but
Speaker 1: an email from a favorite professor who'd recently passed away.
Speaker 1: He says, the student have been laboring on a complex
Speaker 1: experiment under the guidance of this professor, but he'd become
Speaker 1: unsure of his ability to complete the work alone. He
Speaker 1: was ready to throw in the towel and give up
Speaker 1: his grant when a subjectless email appeared on his home computer.
Speaker 1: It contained a message from the professor assuring him that
Speaker 1: he was on the right course. With knowledge of the
Speaker 1: grad student's work that could only have come from his
Speaker 1: kindly mentor. An interesting twist. Although the grad student reported
Speaker 1: the message to a paranormal researcher, he never quite believed
Speaker 1: his own experience and always looked for a scientific explanation.
Speaker 1: He had no prior interest in the paranormal nor a
Speaker 1: belief in the afterlife, which makes his claim all the
Speaker 1: more intriguing. There's another book about phone calls from deceased
Speaker 1: people by doctor Scott Rogo called Phone Calls from the Dead.
Speaker 1: He writes about a physician who experienced an after death
Speaker 1: communication with his mother. Do you want to tell us
Speaker 1: about this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, because you know, one of the things that's
Speaker 2: fascinating to me in the story you've just told and
Speaker 2: in this one, is that these are science people. These
Speaker 2: are not paranormal people who seek that kind of information.
Speaker 2: I was, of course, very hopeful that my mother would
Speaker 2: be in touch with me, but these are different. And
Speaker 2: let me tell you about that.
Speaker 1: And it kind of goes against a lot of the
Speaker 1: things you and I say, because we always say, if
Speaker 1: you're open to this, you'll experience this phenomenon. But if
Speaker 1: you're closed off to it, it's harder for them to
Speaker 1: get through to us.
Speaker 2: Well, but not always true, that's right, and so let
Speaker 2: me tell this story. So doctor Scott Rogo tells his story,
Speaker 2: as Samantha has said in his book, Phone Calls from
Speaker 2: the Dead, and he describes doctor I love this, doctor
Speaker 2: Medved's is that really his name? After his mother's funeral,
Speaker 2: he returned to his home in Los Angeles, tired and grieving.
Speaker 2: He went to bed early, but was awakened by an
Speaker 2: early morning phone call. And here's what he told doctor Rogo.
Speaker 2: It was exactly six thirty when I said hello. The
Speaker 2: voice on the phone said Johnny. It was a little
Speaker 2: odd sounding, and I thought it was one of my sisters.
Speaker 2: It sounded a little dismayed, as if she was calling
Speaker 2: to report a problem. I said, what's the matter, and
Speaker 2: the voice said again, Johnny. I again said, what's the matter?
Speaker 2: Who is this? I don't know whether the voice said
Speaker 2: Johnny again, but then I began to get rather excited.
Speaker 2: The next thing the voice said was is that you
Speaker 2: Johnny Dear? By this time, I didn't know if someone
Speaker 2: was pulling a joke on me or what, and so
Speaker 2: my voice got really high. What's the matter? I said,
Speaker 2: who is this? I kept repeating this until the voice said,
Speaker 2: your mother, Doctor med I explained that the voice exactly
Speaker 2: matched his late mother's. At the end of these two words,
Speaker 2: the voice trailed off into a whisper. Doctor Medved kept talking,
Speaker 2: but it was no use. The phone line remained open.
Speaker 2: In other words, it didn't go dead, and you can
Speaker 2: hear that, or it gets to a buzzing sound, but
Speaker 2: after fading out, the phantom voice just ceased talking. Neither
Speaker 2: did doctor Medved hear a click over the line, as
Speaker 2: though someone had hung up on him. Finally, when the
Speaker 2: doctor realized that the call was over, he himself reluctantly
Speaker 2: hung up. Okay, so he did basically what I did.
Speaker 2: I just kept listening to what felt like almost a vacuum,
Speaker 2: a dead air sound that I was very aware was
Speaker 2: not how a phone sounds when it's just then there's
Speaker 2: nothing there, right, you know? He did exactly the same
Speaker 2: thing I did. My mother didn't speak at all, She
Speaker 2: never said a word, but I knew with all my
Speaker 2: soul that my mother was on the other end of
Speaker 2: that line. Didn't me know she was okay, and she
Speaker 2: did come to see me. Let me interject this here.
Speaker 2: A few nights later, my father was a biblical literalist.
Speaker 2: He and you know, when I had these conversations before Samantha,
Speaker 2: my father believed that when he died, he was going
Speaker 2: to be met at gates made of pearl by Saint Peter,
Speaker 2: and he was going to be walking down streets paved
Speaker 2: with gold and angels playing harps, and that's his vision
Speaker 2: of what heaven was going to be. And he never
Speaker 2: wavered from that belief, and not long and he died
Speaker 2: two years before Mama. And not long before Mama died,
Speaker 2: she said to me, you know, your daddy was really
Speaker 2: sure about what he believed. I'm not so sure. And
Speaker 2: that worried me, and we never talked about it again.
Speaker 2: She wasn't willing to go there again. But I worried
Speaker 2: about that because I wanted her to have some comfort
Speaker 2: and assuredness in her beliefs. So a few nights later,
Speaker 2: after her funeral, and after that those two phone calls,
Speaker 2: she came and sat down on the bed next to me.
Speaker 2: Woke me up in the night. What woke me up
Speaker 2: was I could feel the weight of a body pushing
Speaker 2: the mattress down. And my mother had these beautiful, beautiful hands,
Speaker 2: and I can still feel her lovely fingers running through
Speaker 2: my hair, pushing my hair kind of back from my
Speaker 2: faces as you would a child, waking them up. And
Speaker 2: she said to me, honey, you got to stop worrying
Speaker 2: about me. I'm okay, and then she faded away. And
Speaker 2: I think that's one of probably one of the most
Speaker 2: comforting things that it ever had happened to me. It
Speaker 2: was a wonderful gift. So I certainly understand this doctor's
Speaker 2: connection and wanting so hard to try to understand what
Speaker 2: had happened on that telephone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to be comfortable telling that story as a doctor.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so. Doctor Rogo tells another story about a young
Speaker 2: man named Carl, who was only eighteen years old when
Speaker 2: his eighty year old grandmother died. He had been her
Speaker 2: favorite grandchild and they had been very close, in a
Speaker 2: close bond between them, and during the last years of
Speaker 2: her life, this elderly woman had grown deaf and would
Speaker 2: often call Carl when she needed his assistance. He was
Speaker 2: a typical teenager with plenty of errands to run and
Speaker 2: friends to visit, so his grandmama had to get in
Speaker 2: touch with him urgently, and she would often call his
Speaker 2: friends home while trying to track him down. No matter
Speaker 2: who answered the phone, she would invariably ask is Carl there?
Speaker 2: Tell him to come home now. Only two days after
Speaker 2: his grandmother's death, Carl decided to visit his friend Peter.
Speaker 2: The visit was just a social one and had nothing
Speaker 2: to do with his grandmother's recent death. In fact, Peter
Speaker 2: and his family didn't even know that Carl's grandmother had died,
Speaker 2: so as they were talking together in a downstairs room,
Speaker 2: the phone rank. Peter's mom answered the phone and said
Speaker 2: it was Carl's grandmother asking to speak to him. Missus
Speaker 2: d'assio said to doctor Rogo, she said, this is Carl's grandmother.
Speaker 2: And when I hollered down to Carl, my son said
Speaker 2: he turned all callers. I bet he did. According to
Speaker 2: Missus diasilo, the voice delivered the same message she often
Speaker 2: delivered when alive. She requested that Carl come home. At first,
Speaker 2: when Carl told her that his grandmother had recently died,
Speaker 2: Missus desco thought the call was a prank. Carl himself
Speaker 2: got on the line, but by this time, though the
Speaker 2: phone line remained open, the voice had stopped speaking. But
Speaker 2: this was not the end of the attempt. At communication.
Speaker 2: Later that night, Carl answered several phone calls back at
Speaker 2: his own home, and each time there was no one
Speaker 2: on the other end of the line. Peter had gone
Speaker 2: home with Carl that evening and also witnessed those calls.
Speaker 2: Grandma was determined to talk to.
Speaker 1: Him, Yes, she was, or determined to, you know, let
Speaker 1: him know she had made it, you know, and was okay, right.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering. If a lot of these are about,
Speaker 1: here's another one that's kind of sad, So get your
Speaker 1: tissues out. This was reported by Mary Kahele, who wrote
Speaker 1: the story into Fate magazine in nineteen fifty three. She says,
Speaker 1: as I relaxed in my easy chair one evening in
Speaker 1: May nineteen forty three, listening to my favorite radio program,
Speaker 1: the phone rang insistently. The operator told me it was
Speaker 1: a long distance call and put it through. In a
Speaker 1: confusion of sound, I heard what seemed to be several
Speaker 1: persons talking all at once. Then I nearly fainted as
Speaker 1: I heard the breathless voice of my little girl, Peggy,
Speaker 1: who had died when she was twelve. Hello Mom? How
Speaker 1: are you? Can you hear me? Hello Mom? The whirling
Speaker 1: as of many winds and the mumbling of voices continued.
Speaker 1: I begged the operator to clear the lines. The beloved
Speaker 1: voice I remembered so well, went on talking, Mom, can't
Speaker 1: you hear me? I talked to Peggy, but it was
Speaker 1: like talking through a storm. Then silence fell. Operator. I
Speaker 1: said this call must be intended for someone else. I
Speaker 1: gave her my name and phone number. She repeated this,
Speaker 1: and then to my surprise, she said, you positively are
Speaker 1: the one they want. Again, Peggy's voice called to me
Speaker 1: through a rushing as of great winds. The winds rose
Speaker 1: through a war and then died into a sudden silence.
Speaker 1: Frantically I called Peggy's name, but there was no answer.
Speaker 1: I asked the operator to trace the call, but she
Speaker 1: replied with finality, we have no record of incoming calls.
Speaker 1: My eyes filled with tears of joy. I realized that
Speaker 1: Peggy had called me not only on Mother's Day, but
Speaker 1: from beyond the grave, for she had died just six
Speaker 1: months before.
Speaker 2: Isn't you know, Samantha, some of our listeners might not
Speaker 2: remember that there was a time and the only way
Speaker 2: to make long distance call was through an operator. You
Speaker 2: literally had to speak to someone who connected you to
Speaker 2: somebody else in another city. And that's, of course the
Speaker 2: time this woman was writing and what was that nineteen
Speaker 2: fifty three? Yeah, yeah, so that's what was happening here.
Speaker 2: And again it's one of those strange situations where the
Speaker 2: operator put the call through, but then she doesn't have
Speaker 2: a record of it, right.
Speaker 1: So it's so wild and so beautiful that she would
Speaker 1: go to those extremes on Mother's Day. Let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break, and when we come back, we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about a really recent account of some emails from
Speaker 1: beyond the Grave. So, deb why don't you tell us
Speaker 1: what you have coming up.
Speaker 2: I have created a new course series that I'm so
Speaker 2: excited about, and it's entitled Opening Gates of Promise. It's
Speaker 2: about exploring those internal landscapes that we have within us
Speaker 2: that help us have a deeper understanding of who we
Speaker 2: are and our life's purpose. And also a reminder that
Speaker 2: our Fool's Calling course is open for enrollment. The best
Speaker 2: way you can learn about both of these courses and
Speaker 2: my other services and connect with me is through my website,
Speaker 2: Debowen dot com.
Speaker 1: Well, everyone, I want to remind you that on October sixteenth,
Speaker 1: I'm teaching a psychic protection class designed to teach you
Speaker 1: how to clear and shield your aura, cut course of negativity,
Speaker 1: and protect your energy, home and office from unwanted intrusions.
Speaker 1: On November six, I'm teaching my Crystals one oh one
Speaker 1: class which will help you get started on your crystal journey,
Speaker 1: and I'm adding a section in there about working with
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Speaker 1: Welcome back.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: We have a really compelling and more recent case involving
Speaker 1: emails from a young man. After Jack Freese passed away
Speaker 1: unexpectedly in twenty eleven, his friends began receiving eerie emails
Speaker 1: from his account, sparking discussions about the nature of life, death,
Speaker 1: and the boundaries of technology. Jack Friese was a fun
Speaker 1: loving young man known for his humor and generosity. When
Speaker 1: he died at the age of thirty two, his friends
Speaker 1: were devastated. Shortly after his funeral, however, they began receiving
Speaker 1: strange emails from his address. The messages were not typical fair. Instead,
Speaker 1: they contained odd phrases and references that only Friese's close
Speaker 1: friends would understand, leading them to believe that somehow he
Speaker 1: was reaching out from beyond the grave. Five months after
Speaker 1: Friese's death, his best friend Tim Hart said he received
Speaker 1: an email from Friese's account with the subject line I'm watching.
Speaker 1: Hart told the BBC one night in November. He says,
Speaker 1: I was sitting on my couch going through my emails
Speaker 1: on my phone and it popped up Senator Jack fries
Speaker 1: I turned ghost white when I read it. It was
Speaker 1: very quick and short, but to a point that only
Speaker 1: Jack and I could relate on. Inside the email was
Speaker 1: the message, did you hear me? I'm at your house?
Speaker 1: Clean your effing attic? Before Freeze died, Heart said the
Speaker 1: two had been alone in Heart's attic talking about what
Speaker 1: to do with the space just he and I were
Speaker 1: up there. Heart said, that's it, so that there's so
Speaker 1: many weird things just to that first email. First of all,
Speaker 1: if I got an email from a deceased friend that
Speaker 1: said I'm watching, I'd be like, what where? And the
Speaker 1: fact that he said, did you hear me? I'm at
Speaker 1: your house. As the interviewer for the BBC, I would
Speaker 1: have asked, Heart, you know, did you feel a sense
Speaker 1: of someone watching you? Did you hear any sounds that
Speaker 1: you couldn't pinpoint? Because it sounds like he was trying
Speaker 1: to communicate in his home and when you know Tim
Speaker 1: Hart wasn't getting it, he'd went ahead and sent these emails.
Speaker 1: Doesn't it sound like that if he says I'm at
Speaker 1: your house.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and clearly he was talking about being there
Speaker 2: at that very moment. It seems like, yeah, and reminding
Speaker 2: him of a conversation they had had about the need
Speaker 2: to clean out the attic, right, double validation basically yeah.
Speaker 1: And this is something I often talk about when I
Speaker 1: teach my mediumship classes is that often the validation that
Speaker 1: the loved one sends through is pretty frivolous, like clean
Speaker 1: your attic. But the reason why I think it's the
Speaker 1: most validating thing because nobody else knew that he and
Speaker 1: Freese were in the attic talking about how he needed
Speaker 1: to clean it up and what to do with that space.
Speaker 1: So it's those little details that make you go, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, nobody knew that you couldn't read it in obituary.
Speaker 1: You couldn't, you know, interview friends or whatever. So I
Speaker 1: think those are very, very validating statements now. Fese's cousin,
Speaker 1: Jimmy McGraw also claimed he received a posthumous email from
Speaker 1: Freese in November telling him I knew you were going
Speaker 1: to break your ankle. Try to warn you. Got to
Speaker 1: be careful. McGrath said he had broken his ankle about
Speaker 1: a week before he got the email. I'd like to
Speaker 1: say Jack sent it, he said, just because I look
Speaker 1: at it as he's gone. But he's still trying to
Speaker 1: connect with me, trying to tell me to move along
Speaker 1: to feel better. The source of these emails is still
Speaker 1: a mystery. Priese's friends say no one had his password
Speaker 1: and they don't believe that the account was hacked. Heart
Speaker 1: said he thought Friese's mother had been sending them, but
Speaker 1: when he asked her about it, she said, think what
Speaker 1: you want about it, or accept it as a gift.
Speaker 1: The contents of Freese's emails ranged from lighthearted jokes to
Speaker 1: unsettling comments that seemed to defy explanation. One notable email
Speaker 1: read I'm here, you guys are in trouble. Another stated
Speaker 1: I'm not dead yet. These messages, while potentially humorous in tone,
Speaker 1: raised profound questions about the imp location of digital communication
Speaker 1: after death.
Speaker 2: Hey wait, I want to know what he said to
Speaker 2: the cousin in advance of him breaking his ankle? Do
Speaker 2: we know that?
Speaker 1: No, we don't know that.
Speaker 2: See that's the kind of stuff I want to know.
Speaker 2: How did he try to tell it? You know? I'd
Speaker 2: like to know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. And I want to know what the
Speaker 1: one email saying I'm here, you guys are in trouble means.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would too.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: And I'm not dead yet. I mean, okay, is he
Speaker 1: like in Lumbelow?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I find those really interesting.
Speaker 2: I do too.
Speaker 1: And then in twenty seventeen, Australian journalist Mark Culvin died
Speaker 1: when he was sixty five. He was a universally admired
Speaker 1: broadcaster and author, and also had an avid and highly
Speaker 1: responsive Twitter account. The news broke around eleven forty and
Speaker 1: Twitter was immediately flooded with tribbya and then at one eighteen,
Speaker 1: his account posted a single tweet, It's all been bloody
Speaker 1: marvelous whoa yeah.
Speaker 2: And not anything else, just that one. No one posthumous post.
Speaker 1: YEP, that's it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Samantha. So here's a question to you. So you know,
Speaker 2: don't I know you do, and I know I have
Speaker 2: agreements with friends about things we will do to try
Speaker 2: to communicate after we pass over, right right. I think
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting. I think we should write those in
Speaker 2: a sealed envelope. Let's do this. Let's you and I
Speaker 2: both write in a sealed envelope what we've said to
Speaker 2: friends that we're going to say and do, and then
Speaker 2: when somebody tells us about it, or we ask about
Speaker 2: it later, after one of us is gone, we can
Speaker 2: open that envelope and see what happened.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's so morbid. But okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's morbid at all.
Speaker 2: Right, I know with validation, you're right.
Speaker 1: Just this morning, though, I was scrolling through TikTok and
Speaker 1: this woman said everyone should have a dead envelope, you
Speaker 1: know that? And I was like, oh, that's so true,
Speaker 1: and she's like, and in this envelope, She's like, you
Speaker 1: can keep it in your safe, but it should have
Speaker 1: you know your passwords, your account numbers, where your life
Speaker 1: insurance policy is. Obituary that you want photo you want
Speaker 1: to be used, all that stuff so that the family
Speaker 1: members don't have to wonder and think, you know, where
Speaker 1: is this? Is this what she would want? Is this
Speaker 1: what the picture he would want used?
Speaker 2: Have you not done all those things?
Speaker 1: I do have an envelope in my safe like my
Speaker 1: I have like a fireproof safety thing. And I do
Speaker 1: have an envelope with most of that, like passwords and
Speaker 1: my life insurance and my will. But I don't have
Speaker 1: like my obituary or the photo I want used.
Speaker 2: I've written my obituary all my sister has to just
Speaker 2: put in the dead date.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I even have a playlist of music to be played
Speaker 2: a celebration.
Speaker 1: Dang, you really thought this out.
Speaker 2: I have friends who agreed to come and play music
Speaker 2: and sing those songs for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well yeah, I just you know, have a
Speaker 1: hard time thinking about all of that. But okay, I'll
Speaker 1: add to my dead envelope.
Speaker 2: Well, well, here's why I think it's so really, really,
Speaker 2: so very important is because I think that one of
Speaker 2: the ways that we honor our friends who have passed on,
Speaker 2: or our family who has passed on, is that we
Speaker 2: do what they want. They want to have happened. Now,
Speaker 2: I also know that memorials and celebrations are for the living.
Speaker 2: I get that, and I understand that, and I respect
Speaker 2: that too, But I also think that there are certain
Speaker 2: things that are really important to the ones who are
Speaker 2: crossing over, that are comforting and familiar to them. I mean,
Speaker 2: for example, my mama wanted I was serious when I
Speaker 2: said this a few minutes ago. My mama wanted Elvis
Speaker 2: played at her funeral. Now, you know, most of us
Speaker 2: when we think of Elvis, we think of all the
Speaker 2: rock and roll stuff that Elvis did, but he also
Speaker 2: so it was a gospel singer, and he sang some
Speaker 2: beautiful hymns, and those were the ones that Mama knew
Speaker 2: we needed to do. If the church she went to,
Speaker 2: I think she probably would have appreciated the rock and
Speaker 2: roll more because she loved that, but she knew that
Speaker 2: at that's where we were going to be, it needed
Speaker 2: to be the Elvis hymns, and that's what we did. Well.
Speaker 1: I think that's lovely. I think funerals are for the living,
Speaker 1: not the dead, so I don't I think that's fine,
Speaker 1: but not that I don't care what music is played
Speaker 1: at mine. But I just you know whatever, my kids
Speaker 1: want to help them through the grief.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can add that to mine
Speaker 2: if you want to. But here's what I want you
Speaker 2: to play to send me off. Okay, you know I
Speaker 2: got a list. What's one of them. The very first
Speaker 2: song is Brought Me on the Water by Jackson Brown.
Speaker 1: Oh nice? What's the going out him?
Speaker 2: Imagined by John Lennon?
Speaker 1: Very nice?
Speaker 2: All right? A lot of stuff in the middle.
Speaker 1: And tell them where you're going to be buried at sea?
Speaker 1: You know, don't tell them where your ashes are going
Speaker 1: to be before they're in the sea.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 1: You're can of nuts?
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I have a coffee can in my hurricane box.
Speaker 2: That's a chalk full of nuts can. That's the brand
Speaker 2: of coffee. It is chock full of nuts. And on
Speaker 2: the lid in magic marker is a peace symbol and
Speaker 2: the word stebs ashes. And that's where I want you
Speaker 2: to pay a lot of money for a fancy urn.
Speaker 2: You're just gonna take me and throw me in the
Speaker 2: ocean to just put me in that coffee can.
Speaker 1: And I've seen it people, She's had it for like
Speaker 1: what sixteen twenty.
Speaker 2: Years at least. Yeah, true story. So play some good
Speaker 2: rocket roll and put me in a coffee can and
Speaker 2: life will be great on both sides of the veil.
Speaker 2: All right, move us on, Samantha.
Speaker 1: Okay, so okay. So Brad Steger told the story of
Speaker 1: a London art gallery owner who also received an email
Speaker 1: from a dead person. It was an artist, a long
Speaker 1: time me of hers, he writes. The gallery owner had
Speaker 1: a running battle with the struggling artists for years after
Speaker 1: being rejected by her repeatedly. The frustrated artist died suddenly
Speaker 1: of massive heart failure, and the gallery owner was devastated,
Speaker 1: fearing that he had died from a broken heart caused
Speaker 1: by her refusal to sell his work. But one morning,
Speaker 1: an email under the artist's name appeared. Shaking with anxiety,
Speaker 1: the gallery owner read it twice. The artist message absolved
Speaker 1: her of any role in his death. He had died
Speaker 1: from a congenital heart problem, not the stress of rejection.
Speaker 1: Apparently he needed closure in the matter so he could
Speaker 1: move on into the spirit world.
Speaker 2: So basically an email of forgiveness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is really nice. I would rather have
Speaker 1: a phone call than an email me too, you know,
Speaker 1: with all like the hacking going on, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would be a little wared that someone had just
Speaker 1: taken over that email account. I would rather a phone call.
Speaker 1: It would feel more I don't know, valid, No, what's
Speaker 1: the right word? Yeah, And I wouldn't question it as much,
Speaker 1: right me too? Tell us our next one.
Speaker 2: So, a user named Stephanie told this story to BuzzFeed.
Speaker 2: My father passed suddenly and was not conscious for the
Speaker 2: last several days of his life. After he was gone,
Speaker 2: I received a series of phone calls that were silent
Speaker 2: or had static. I said hello several times with no
Speaker 2: reply or more static. This went on for three months.
Speaker 2: One night, I dreamt I got one of the phone calls,
Speaker 2: but instead of silence, it was my father. He said,
Speaker 2: I just want to tell you that I love you.
Speaker 2: I woke up in tears and I never got another call. Well,
Speaker 2: it took him a while to get through, didn't it.
Speaker 1: Well that one really makes me think, you know, was
Speaker 1: this him trying to learn how to communicate with her
Speaker 1: and he couldn't. He couldn't get his voice to appear
Speaker 1: year on the phone line. So then his guides taught
Speaker 1: him how to come in a dream.
Speaker 2: I think that very very well may be possible when
Speaker 2: you think about really that all we are is energy,
Speaker 2: and that one of the ways we communicate really is
Speaker 2: by matching our energetic vibrations to someone else's. And I've
Speaker 2: read over and over again about the learning curve that
Speaker 2: goes on across the veil of folks learning how without
Speaker 2: a body to match their vibrations to people over here
Speaker 2: on this side, and that very well may been what
Speaker 2: had happened.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite stories, and I know I've told
Speaker 1: it too many times, but we do have new listeners,
Speaker 1: and it's my favorite story that ever happened. When I
Speaker 1: was doing a reading was this man came through to
Speaker 1: apologize to his wife about appearing in the hallway and
Speaker 1: scaring her half to death, and she said he better apologized,
Speaker 1: and I laughed and asked her what happened and she
Speaker 1: said that, you know, after he died, she was having
Speaker 1: a hard time sleeping and would often fall asleep with
Speaker 1: the TV or the lights on. And she was just
Speaker 1: sitting in bed one night, missing him, and she saw
Speaker 1: him walking down the hallway, except his skin kept falling
Speaker 1: off and she was terrified, and then he just disappeared
Speaker 1: and he had said to me, I had to learn.
Speaker 1: I'm still learning how to recreate my energy, and he said,
Speaker 1: I'm tell her, I'm trying, tell her, I'm trying. So
Speaker 1: I passed all of that on. And then a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks later, she emailed me and said that, you know,
Speaker 1: she really thought about that, and she kept telling him like,
Speaker 1: I think I'm grieving too much. And she was sitting
Speaker 1: in the closet smelling one of his shirts, and she
Speaker 1: said she always did that because it made her feel
Speaker 1: close to him, and she started to she just fail
Speaker 1: to her knees, crying because she realized his smell wasn't
Speaker 1: on his shirts as much, you know, and she was
Speaker 1: just had one of those breakdown moments, and she said,
Speaker 1: if only I could smell you again. And she heard
Speaker 1: this crash in their bathroom and where she kept all
Speaker 1: of her perfume, and his one bottle of cologne was
Speaker 1: in the center of like her circle of her perfume bottles.
Speaker 1: Only that cologne bottle fell and it spilled, and so
Speaker 1: her whole bathroom smelled of him.
Speaker 2: I love that story. I know I've heard you tell
Speaker 2: it before, and it's a great story, and you know,
Speaker 2: and I've told this story on her before too. Conversely,
Speaker 2: when we talk about the way my mom came to
Speaker 2: visit me, and it was very clear, it was heard
Speaker 2: she was sitting on the side of my bed and
Speaker 2: all that. Shortly after my dad died, and by that
Speaker 2: I mean just just a few days, he came to
Speaker 2: see me and he stood at the foot of my bed,
Speaker 2: but he looked awful. He looked very dead. And I
Speaker 2: sat up in bed and I said, Daddy, I'm so
Speaker 2: happy to see you, but I need you to look different.
Speaker 2: Next time you come, I need you to look like
Speaker 2: I remember you. And then he did come a couple
Speaker 2: of other times after that, and both times he looked
Speaker 2: like I remember him, looking much much younger and much
Speaker 2: health fear, And I know how much work and energy
Speaker 2: it took for him to do that.
Speaker 1: For me, yeah, to learn how to do that, but
Speaker 1: it shows what the effort that they put through to
Speaker 1: try to communicate with us. I mean, my dear friend
Speaker 1: George would have turned fifty four yesterday, and he died
Speaker 1: at twenty seven, and I had a dream of him
Speaker 1: and I rushed over to him in the dream to
Speaker 1: hug him, and he said, no, no, no, you can't
Speaker 1: touch me. I haven't learned to do that in dreams yet.
Speaker 1: And then a couple of months later, I had another
Speaker 1: dream and he was just sitting on a park bench
Speaker 1: and I walked up very carefully, and he said, no, no,
Speaker 1: you can hug me.
Speaker 3: Now I've learned. Oh oh, so I think that they do.
Speaker 3: They're like instructed. All right, we have some more great
Speaker 3: stories to share about communication from the other side. Let's
Speaker 3: take our last break and we'll be right back. Okay,
Speaker 3: deb do you want to share our next story?
Speaker 2: Sure. This is from a man on Reddit who says this,
Speaker 2: My dad died of cancer over ten years ago. A
Speaker 2: little less than a month after, I got on my
Speaker 2: knees and prayed for some type of sign that there
Speaker 2: is something after this life. At three ten a m.
Speaker 2: I got a voicemail from a private number brew static.
Speaker 2: My voice, my dad's voice emerged and said, Hello, Jacoby,
Speaker 2: a name only my dad called me. I just wish
Speaker 2: I had woken up and answered that call. And yes,
Speaker 2: I still have it recorded. And when I let my
Speaker 2: family and friends listen, we all agreed that it was
Speaker 2: his voice. Oh so he got the voicemail and the
Speaker 2: colony didn't answer it. Yeah, oh, oh sad?
Speaker 1: But how cold he has it recorded? Like if he
Speaker 1: had answered it, I get it, he could have maybe
Speaker 1: talked to his father a little bit more. But how
Speaker 1: need to have it recorded?
Speaker 2: That's true, absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, so many of these stories that we read
Speaker 1: to prepare for this show happened at three a m.
Speaker 1: And again I've wondered, you know, I always joke on
Speaker 1: this show like why three am? And how do the
Speaker 1: spirits know that it's three am Eastern and not Pacific
Speaker 1: or Central or Australian or what have you.
Speaker 2: Well, because time is weird, Samantha, and it's not.
Speaker 1: Real, yeah, or does something I've read some articles that
Speaker 1: say the electromagnetic fields in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: wherever you are, whatever time zone, it's calmer, you know,
Speaker 1: like there's not people on their internet, there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of electricity running through telephone wires, and you know,
Speaker 1: utility polls and all of that, and so that everything
Speaker 1: is is calmer energetically, and they're able to connect that
Speaker 1: way because of the electromagnetic energy.
Speaker 2: I think that probably has something to do with it.
Speaker 2: And I think I think there's something magical about that time.
Speaker 2: I mean there's thousands of stories throughout history about three
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, you know. Yeah, So let me
Speaker 2: tell another one. This is from another Reddit user. We
Speaker 2: had visited my grandmother in Spain, and on the way home,
Speaker 2: my mom texted my granddad, her father, to say, had
Speaker 2: a lovely time, thanks for having us home now. When
Speaker 2: he died a few months later, we went over to Spain.
Speaker 2: Mom swept in bed with my grandma, and my granddad's
Speaker 2: phone was in the living room. At three am, my
Speaker 2: mom wakes up to her phone going off. It's a
Speaker 2: text for my granddad saying had a lovely time, thanks
Speaker 2: for having us home now.
Speaker 1: Isn't that beautiful? Yes, Like he's telling her he's home,
Speaker 1: like he's in his eternal home now, right, all right.
Speaker 1: Here's another one, also on Reddit. I work for a
Speaker 1: company that answers phone and takes messages for businesses when
Speaker 1: they're closed, out to lunch, after hours, et cetera. We
Speaker 1: answer for a variety of companies in different fields, including
Speaker 1: funeral homes. I took a message from this lady whose
Speaker 1: mother had passed recently. The body was already picked up
Speaker 1: and dressed and at the funeral parlor visitation was scheduled
Speaker 1: for the following day. She calls and is weepy and
Speaker 1: asks if her mother's phone is still in her jacket
Speaker 1: pocket because they just got a call from her number.
Speaker 1: I dispatched the call to the funeral director and he
Speaker 1: says that he'll call her, but that the body is
Speaker 1: in the casket and the casket is closed waiting in
Speaker 1: their parlor. I said, wow, weird, and he kind of
Speaker 1: chuckles and says, this kind of thing happens more often
Speaker 1: than you would think.
Speaker 2: You would think they wouldn't leave that phone in that
Speaker 2: woman's pocket unless they want it, unless she wanted it
Speaker 2: to be there. Okay.
Speaker 1: I came across at least three more stories of people
Speaker 1: requesting to be buried with their cell phone.
Speaker 2: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: I am so serious?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Why, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What do they think They're going to sit in there
Speaker 1: in their coffin underground and scroll through Instagram? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know either, Samantha, or maybe they just don't
Speaker 2: want people to see what's on their phone. That could
Speaker 2: be too You know, I don't have any desire whatsoever
Speaker 2: to be disposed of with my phone, but you know,
Speaker 2: I joked often and half seriously. I sure do wish
Speaker 2: I could take a legal pad and a pen with
Speaker 2: a bunch of questions on it with me when I
Speaker 2: go Yeah, me too. Right, there's that all right.
Speaker 1: We've got one more Reddit story from leu Anne. She says,
Speaker 1: when my grandpa passed away, I was sitting in the
Speaker 1: living room with my grandma, chatting and having some snacks.
Speaker 1: The phone started ringing. She picked up the phone and
Speaker 1: her face went completely pale. When she hung up, she
Speaker 1: started crying. Now, my grandpa had just passed, and we
Speaker 1: were all really sad and depressed since he was such
Speaker 1: a kind and caring soul. My grandma explained to me
Speaker 1: through tears that it was my grandpa on the phone.
Speaker 1: She said she recognized her voice and he was whispering
Speaker 1: that he was okay, and that my grandma would be
Speaker 1: okay too, even without him. They had been married for
Speaker 1: sixty one years and they were still madly in love
Speaker 1: when he left us. This helped my grandma a lot.
Speaker 1: She wasn't a believer in paranormal stuff, but it made
Speaker 1: her think a lot about that, and now she's really
Speaker 1: open minded about this stuff. Now. We often discussed this,
Speaker 1: and we all agree that it wasn't some kind of
Speaker 1: bad joke because it resembled my grandpa so much to
Speaker 1: care for my grandma even far away. On the other side,
Speaker 1: we had a lot of strange things happening after his death,
Speaker 1: but always on the good side of strange. Oh Love,
Speaker 1: I know, isn't that really cool? And you know, I
Speaker 1: even found a Tumblr account that's devoted to collecting stories
Speaker 1: like this. It's called the Last Message Received. So if
Speaker 1: you go to Tumblr and find that, you'll see it's
Speaker 1: just screenshots of people getting text messages or emails, or
Speaker 1: they'll take a screenshot of you know, caller ID to
Speaker 1: show that they're and then they'll have the story of
Speaker 1: what happened below it. So that's how common this is
Speaker 1: that there have been several books written on it, and
Speaker 1: there's even an account where you can you can share
Speaker 1: your own story and upload some proof.
Speaker 2: It certainly helps to validate what you and I have
Speaker 2: always said on this show that the veil is thin
Speaker 2: and that there is always an energy exchange that's possible
Speaker 2: among people and four legged folks as well, in terms
Speaker 2: of how we can stay connected. That it's really all
Speaker 2: just about connecting with energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just want to say too to anyone
Speaker 1: listening to this who's like, well, I loved my mom,
Speaker 1: I loved my dad, my grandpa, whoever, and I haven't
Speaker 1: heard from them, you know. We always want to stress
Speaker 1: that everyone is different, every soul is different, and how
Speaker 1: they died often can really affect the way they're able
Speaker 1: to come to you. Like, for example, we haven't really
Speaker 1: heard a whole lot from my dad, and he died,
Speaker 1: you know, in the late stages of Alzheimer's, and my
Speaker 1: daughter Chloe had that dream, oh early on, like a
Speaker 1: week after he passed that she was flying in her
Speaker 1: dream with her angel and she saw my dad and
Speaker 1: a bunch of other people indifferent. She described them as
Speaker 1: like white clouds with like these rotating rainbow lights going
Speaker 1: around them. And Chloe said to her angel, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: there's my papa. I have to go say hi. And
Speaker 1: the angel kind of touched her arm and said, no, no, honey,
Speaker 1: he's still healing. And so I think sometimes if you
Speaker 1: do pass from Alzheimer's or a coma or something like that,
Speaker 1: where your mind has kind of been affected in some way,
Speaker 1: it can be hurder for you to communicate, you know, Also,
Speaker 1: my dad was a very soft spoken gentle man. If
Speaker 1: he was in line, it was very annoying because he
Speaker 1: would let anyone cut in front of us. So I
Speaker 1: can picture him being in like line and having to
Speaker 1: you know that says, learn how to communicate with your
Speaker 1: family back on earth, and he's just letting everyone go
Speaker 1: in front of him, whereas we've had a lot of
Speaker 1: signs and a lot of communication from my mom. Did
Speaker 1: I tell you about the one where I felt her
Speaker 1: touch my elbow in the kitchen? Did I tell that
Speaker 1: story to you.
Speaker 2: Or did not share that with us? Oh?
Speaker 1: My gosh. So this was about a month ago. And
Speaker 1: I just got up one morning and I was making
Speaker 1: my little breakfast shake and I felt my kids were
Speaker 1: still home, and I felt someone touch my elbow and
Speaker 1: I kind of whipped around to be like, who's awake
Speaker 1: this early? And there's nobody there, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't scared, but I know I felt something
Speaker 1: touch my elbow, so I just I just put my
Speaker 1: little mixer down and I just paused to be like,
Speaker 1: who was that? And I heard my mom's voice and
Speaker 1: inside my head say, good news about your book today?
Speaker 1: So what I did was I texted my sisters and
Speaker 1: I said, hey, this is what just happened to me.
Speaker 1: If I hear something good about my book, I'll let
Speaker 1: you know. And that it was like four o'clock that day. Later,
Speaker 1: you know, much later in the day, I got an
Speaker 1: email from my editor that I had been approved finally
Speaker 1: to narrate my book and your mom.
Speaker 2: Already knew it.
Speaker 1: And she knew it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wonderful, I know.
Speaker 1: So we've had a lot of things like that, my
Speaker 1: sisters and I with my mom that have been you know,
Speaker 1: really really confirming. But I think that it's my mom's personality.
Speaker 1: Like she would she would cut everyone to get to
Speaker 1: the front of the line to learn how to communicate
Speaker 1: with them.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's not always rhyme nor reason I
Speaker 2: think to this. I mean, people who've been listening to
Speaker 2: this podcast for a while know that I desperately wanted
Speaker 2: to talk to Jane or hear from her, and tried
Speaker 2: all sorts of things and nothing worked. And yet she
Speaker 2: sent me on this convoluted treasure hunt with my wonderful
Speaker 2: friend Dale to try to figure out how to get
Speaker 2: information to me. And it was a beautiful story but
Speaker 2: I personally still have never heard from Jane.
Speaker 1: No, no, I know. Well, I mean, or take our
Speaker 1: friend Joel. I've been able to connect him with his dad,
Speaker 1: but never with his mom, right, you know. And she
Speaker 1: also passed from Alzheimer's, so I don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: but I just think certain people it takes more time.
Speaker 1: Did I tell you about the sign we think my
Speaker 1: dad gave to my sister?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, So my sister Courtney had a birthday on Monday,
Speaker 1: August nineteenth. On Sunday August eighteenth, my older sister Tara
Speaker 1: gets up in the morning and she has her coffee,
Speaker 1: and she has this lovely like second floor landing with
Speaker 1: all bookshelves and like two little chairs and a coffee table.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of for show, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: She's got this beautiful, beautiful home and she never really
Speaker 1: actually sits up there, and for some reason that morning,
Speaker 1: she got up before everyone else and she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my coffee up here. So she sits
Speaker 1: there and she looks at the bookshelf and she pulls
Speaker 1: out a random book and it's The Eagle in the
Speaker 1: Rose And both both neither my sisters remember ever. Hearing
Speaker 1: of this book, I instantly was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I remember that. Do you remember that book about the
Speaker 1: woman who connected with her guide, who she called the ego?
Speaker 1: Was Rosemary Altia wrote the book.
Speaker 2: I don't remember this book.
Speaker 1: It was such a good read back then. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it holds up today, but I loved it.
Speaker 1: So Tara pulls it out and she opens it up
Speaker 1: and it says, happy birthday, Courtney, hope this book inspires
Speaker 1: your spiritual path love Dad. Wow, isn't that wild? And
Speaker 1: she was like, why would I sit up there? Why
Speaker 1: would I pull out this book. Courtney has no memory
Speaker 1: of Dad giving her that book, and she has no
Speaker 1: recall of how it got from her house to Tara's house.
Speaker 1: But I think, to me, it's a sign from Dad
Speaker 1: because it was right before her birthday and it's a
Speaker 1: happy birthday book, and it's about connecting. It's a medium
Speaker 1: writing about how to connect with the other side.
Speaker 2: And it got apported from one sister to the other's.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Courtney's like, I'm sure I gave it
Speaker 1: to you at some point, but she is no memory
Speaker 1: of that, right, Wow. So I just thought that was really,
Speaker 1: really cool. So I think that they will give us signs,
Speaker 1: and I think these these very you know, visual auditory
Speaker 1: signs of calling or emailing. Gosh, that's that is such
Speaker 1: such a gift. And I would like to add everyone
Speaker 1: I started researching this as a spooky episode. Dev this
Speaker 1: has not been a spooky episode at all.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just a lovely episode.
Speaker 1: I know I meant phone calls from the dead, but
Speaker 1: it turned out to be very nice.
Speaker 2: I love this episode. Thank you for this episode, Samantha.
Speaker 2: One down, y'all. I'm not having to do a scary thing.
Speaker 1: Well, tune in next week when we talk about demons
Speaker 1: possessing us all. No, I'm kidding, dep I'm.
Speaker 2: Kidding, Samantha. You're probably not. That's a scary thing. In
Speaker 2: any case, I appreciate this episode. And I know one
Speaker 2: thing that I really want to say is that I
Speaker 2: really hope our listeners hear the comfort and the hope
Speaker 2: in this episode.
Speaker 1: Yes, I do too, and the fact that they want
Speaker 1: to reach out and connect with us as much as
Speaker 1: we want to reach out and connect with them. And
Speaker 1: it's hard, and the timing has to be right, and
Speaker 1: it has to match their personality and their journey on
Speaker 1: the other side. But I think if we know that,
Speaker 1: if we set that intention, hey, I would like to
Speaker 1: hear from you going to find a way. It might
Speaker 1: not be today or tomorrow, but they will find a way.
Speaker 1: And so I hope you always remind people.
Speaker 2: Of that right and there may be ways in which
Speaker 2: they do that we may not expect or want it
Speaker 2: to be. Great.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks everyone so much for listening. If you like
Speaker 1: the show, please tell a friend or leave us a
Speaker 1: nice review. It really helps us grow our audience. We
Speaker 1: hope you get a phone call or an email or
Speaker 1: a tweet from a loved one on the other side.
Speaker 1: If you do, shoot us an email Psychic Teachers at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com and we'll share on an upcoming show.
Speaker 1: Be the light for yourself and others.
Speaker 2: Take care everyone.
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