WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.439 --> 00:00:06.519 It's Maria's MutS and Stuff. What a great idea on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:13.320 Welcome to Maria's Mutts and Stuff and with me is 3 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:17.679 director of Emergency and Critical Care at Redbank Veterinary Hospital. 4 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:20.839 It is Anna Massey and I have been waiting to 5 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:24.039 speak with Anna for months and months and it makes 6 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:26.280 sense that she's a vet and a mom and everything 7 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:28.399 because she's so very patient patient. 8 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:29.760 She's waited for months. 9 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:32.560 I've had technical difficulties, I've gotten kicked out of my 10 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.600 studio and she's always like, Okay, we'll talk again. 11 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:40.200 So welcome Anna, Hi, thank you so much for having me. 12 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:42.320 It was I'm definitely it's worth the weight. 13 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:44.600 Oh you're too sweet. 14 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:47.359 And you also have the blog, but we'll talk about 15 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:50.640 that later. The blended vet dot com and it's working 16 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:54.159 mom plus er vet. So tell me when did you 17 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:56.560 decide that you wanted to be a vet. 18 00:00:56.759 --> 00:00:58.719 Yeah. So I was one of those that knew very 19 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:01.159 very at a very young year age like eleven twelve, 20 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:04.200 and then I just I started working in like the 21 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:06.959 kennel in the back of you know, my local vett hospital, 22 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:09.519 and then became like a little vet assistant and then 23 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:13.599 a like technician and and then I decided I'm going 24 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:15.760 to want to go to a college where there's a 25 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:17.519 VET school attached I can work there. So I was 26 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.519 like very focused, Like I was like, I know, that's 27 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:22.040 what I want. The school ended up going to they 28 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:25.079 had a VET hospital that had a or an er 29 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:27.159 that you could basically volunteer. Is the only place in 30 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:29.519 the whole hospital or school that you could volunteer. And 31 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:32.920 so I just happened to start doing emergency and I 32 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.560 absolutely fell in love with it. I just and so 33 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:37.400 then I've just kind of stayed there ever since. That 34 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:39.560 was back in like the mid nineties, and I've been 35 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:41.000 doing er stuff ever since. 36 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:44.680 Wow, And what is it about the er that like 37 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:46.319 that attracts you? Do you think? 38 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.319 I mean, is it one particular thing or is it 39 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:49.799 like a combination of stuff? 40 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.359 Yeah, it's really I think that it's there's always something new, 41 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:55.079 Like you never know what's going to come in, so 42 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.400 you know, there's there's no way that you're going to 43 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.280 ever be bored. And I like that sort of you 44 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:02.719 don't know what you're going to get, you know. I 45 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:04.239 know other people who are kind of like, no, I 46 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:06.760 want to know exactly what my days be like sure, 47 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:09.759 but I kind of like that, I you know, sort 48 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:11.240 of like I'm just gonna have to be on my 49 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.400 toes and like, you know, as things come, I'm going 50 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.879 to have to try to figure it out. You know. 51 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.319 It's very fast paced, be a little chaotic, and you 52 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.120 learn how to like multitask or at least to the 53 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:25.800 best of your ability multitask, right. But yeah, I just 54 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:28.400 I kind of like, you know, that's where I started, 55 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:30.000 and I just sort of stay there the whole time 56 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.360 because it's like I'm still not bored and I've been 57 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:34.639 doing it for like twenty years now. 58 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:37.879 That's amazing. That's amazing, because yeah, I'm sure it must be. 59 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:42.479 I'm sure your job would probably make someone who doesn't 60 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:46.479 like change or doesn't like like suddenness or like unknown 61 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:50.439 suddenness go crazy. But that's I think it's a very 62 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.599 unique personality trait that for someone to be able to 63 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:55.879 do that, because you also have to be you know, 64 00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:00.800 cool and calm because you're also dealing with panicking parents too. 65 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:03.439 Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think it's you know, 66 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.719 having like putting yourself in their shoes, you know, which, 67 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:09.719 like I have my own pets, so like I've I've 68 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:12.360 had that experience, and I think about, like, oh my god, 69 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.080 what is it like It's like having you know, like 70 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:16.439 a mom bringing her kid to the er and like 71 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:19.800 you know, not wanting to be separated from them and 72 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.560 all of those things that you know, like it's easy 73 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:24.280 to just be like, Okay, let's do our thing and 74 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:27.080 we'll treat the patient, but you have to also treat 75 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.159 the owner too. You have to think about that they're 76 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:32.400 what they're going through. It's totally It's just such an 77 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:35.199 emotional experience, especially when they're really really sick, you know. 78 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:35.840 Yeah. 79 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.039 Yeah, but it also sounds like you were born to 80 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:39.960 do this, you know what I mean, because sometimes I 81 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:41.639 mean we've all met vets and I'm sure you have 82 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:45.479 more so than me over you know, your lifetime. Who 83 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:48.560 are doing it because it's a job, but you know, 84 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.199 but you this is like you love you love this, 85 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:52.439 This is what you were meant to do. 86 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.199 Yeah. I do. And I think like a lot of 87 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:58.159 people who go into emergency, they do kind of burned 88 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:01.080 out and they end up doing something else. So it's 89 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:02.960 like not common that you do it for this so long. 90 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.599 And I do have like a hybrid role now where 91 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:08.039 I you know, I do some administrative stuff because it's 92 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:11.439 it's hard to you know, do do like the floor 93 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:14.120 work one hundred percent of the time as I'm aging 94 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:14.960 rapidly and. 95 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:16.079 Oh stop it, you know. 96 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:19.240 And I have all these kids at home that are like, 97 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.959 you know, you know, giving you lots of green hairs, 98 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.360 but I do, so I would never want to step 99 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:26.000 away from it fully, you know, I would never want 100 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:27.680 to not be on the floor at all. So right, 101 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.279 and I also, yeah, it's like one of those things 102 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:32.680 that if you you're leading the people that are doing 103 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:34.319 this stuff and you're not in it with them in 104 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:36.920 the trenches, and it's it's hard, you know for them 105 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:38.680 to like, it would be hard to have respect for them. 106 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:40.839 I think it's the person in charge as much. So 107 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.120 I try. I try to be there with them and 108 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.519 and not just like standing off to the side watching. 109 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:49.279 Sure, but I also think it probably makes the people 110 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:53.439 who you work with feel better about emergencies because they 111 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:55.839 can count on you and you're not just phoning it in. 112 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:56.839 Does that make sense? 113 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.040 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean I hope, I hope that's 114 00:04:59.079 --> 00:04:59.319 the game. 115 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:01.160 Oh my goodness, of course it is. But you're not 116 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:03.000 going to give yourself credit. I could tell but I 117 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:05.240 but I think it's really important to always have someone 118 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:08.839 who you can like other people can turn to because 119 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:13.519 they're cool headed in emergencies, and in emergencies is every 120 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:17.040 day of your job. So yeah, it's easy, not easy 121 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.040 for you, but it's I think it's natural for you, 122 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:21.120 which I think again is very unique. 123 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:24.560 Yeah, yeah, I think there are people like I mean, 124 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:27.839 there's people who go into critical care with you know, 125 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.160 with that that go in specifically into you know, ICU 126 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:35.079 level stuff, and that's that is their passion and they 127 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:38.000 make a career out of it. But I would say that, Yeah, 128 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:41.439 the compassion fatigue is a real thing, and I'm sure 129 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:45.519 the same for you know humans who you know, human medicine, 130 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.160 like surely are I'm sure it's the same thing. So 131 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:51.199 it does. Yeah, I'm sure you know, it's not for everybody, 132 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:53.839 but it has been for me and I like it. 133 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:54.680 No, that's great. 134 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:57.240 And is there any advice you would give, say to 135 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:00.519 someone who's listening right now and they're you know, their 136 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.800 child is thinking of being a vet, any piece of 137 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:07.040 advice that somebody told you to pass on or just 138 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:08.040 I mean just I don't know. 139 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:08.959 Anything. 140 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:13.600 Yeah, I think you really like have to want it, 141 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:15.879 and you really really has to be that. You couldn't 142 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:19.160 think of doing anything else but that, because it can 143 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.879 be a hard road to get there, and it does. 144 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.240 You know, like people who are in the vet world, 145 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:27.639 they tend to be like very empathic people and they 146 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.560 feel other people's pain a lot, and it can it 147 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:34.879 can take a lot of toll on people. And you know, 148 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.319 I like to see animals, you know, suffering and to 149 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:40.199 know that, Okay, I'm going to be doing something to 150 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.600 help them. That you have to see some degree of 151 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:45.600 suffering along the way. You have to you know, be 152 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:48.959 okay with that, knowing that it's a means to an end. Sure, 153 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:51.480 because I think there's so many people out there who 154 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:53.839 would love to be vets. But I think it just 155 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.639 like it would be hard for a lot of people, 156 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.160 I think, to go through it and to see that 157 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:00.839 kind of stuff. 158 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.120 Yeah, No, definitely, I understand that. 159 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.079 I Mean I've always I thought about it when I 160 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:08.600 was younger, but I'm not really good with like blood 161 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:11.079 and guts and stuff, I mean, you know what I mean, 162 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:13.120 And I just knew, like, oh, that's not going to 163 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:14.800 be a good I mean, like, I don't even like 164 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:17.560 when my own blood is taken, I have to look away. 165 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:20.319 I'm a woos So I was like, yeah, being a 166 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:22.279 vet would not be good for me, even though I 167 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:23.199 love animals. 168 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:27.399 So yeah, yeah, and in your case, like you've found 169 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:32.439 a way to, you know, help them immensely, probably in 170 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.879 a bigger way than what best are doing because you're 171 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:36.879 getting the word. 172 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:40.639 Yeah, but you're saving lives. It's different. You're saving lives. 173 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:44.079 I'm just like talking about it. So but thank you. 174 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:45.399 You are also saving lives. 175 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.720 You are all right, well, thank you, thank you. 176 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:51.600 So so let's talk a little bit about your blog, 177 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:54.399 because first of all, I have to tell you, and 178 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.600 I'm not just saying this, I really love your writing 179 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.680 because I feel like, well, it's just it's very sincere, 180 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:04.720 and it's very honest, and it's very. 181 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:07.639 Yeah, it's just very honest. 182 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:10.839 And you I feel like I'm talking to you, even 183 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:13.319 though we've never spoken before until now. But I feel 184 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:15.319 like when I'm reading your blog, because I was reading 185 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:19.000 some of the articles and yeah, I just I really 186 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:20.839 really I want to read more of them. 187 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:23.839 So what made you decide to start doing that? 188 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:27.240 Yeah, I think it was a little bit before the pandemic, 189 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:29.399 but I really did start to get into it more then, 190 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:31.839 and I just like I wanted some kind of outlet for, 191 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:33.600 you know, all the stress that we were all feeling 192 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:38.720 at that time, and I wanted to I realized at 193 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:41.360 some point that that a lot of what I was, 194 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.440 you know, had learned over the years working in the 195 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:46.639 emergency room and in a vet vet er, that I 196 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.360 was actually like applying it to my home life. And 197 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:53.039 and it was kind of like embracing the chaos that 198 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.799 you know, life can bring, and you know, just like multitasking, 199 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.879 staying calm and being as patient as possible, and you know, 200 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:04.679 kind of keeping the bigger picture in mind. And you know, 201 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:08.679 I think all of those things like overlapped and and so, 202 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:11.519 like a lot of my things that I write about there, 203 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:13.879 there's a little bit of like being a parent, and 204 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:19.200 there's also stuff about being a pet parent and also 205 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:22.200 being a VET and trying to educate people, because I 206 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:24.559 do love to talk about stuff and make you know, 207 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:27.559 if there's something that maybe doesn't make sense, you know 208 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:29.120 that your vet said to you, I like to be 209 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:31.200 able to explain it. I think that's one of my 210 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:34.080 strong points, is like explaining things in like Layman's terms 211 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:36.159 so that people really get it, and they're like a 212 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:37.919 lot of times I've had thank you so much for 213 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:40.799 explaining it because I didn't get it. I think sometimes 214 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:42.840 we forget and we start talking a bunch of medical 215 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:46.080 speak yes to people who aren't used to it, and 216 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:49.039 it just overwhelms them even more than they already are yes. 217 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:51.519 So yeah, it's kind of like I and I have 218 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:54.120 this blended family. You know, I married Sean, which I 219 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:54.879 think you know Sean. 220 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.039 I know Sean, yes, and he talked about you, and 221 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:00.120 that's how I reached out to you, you know. I 222 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:02.360 guess yeah, he put it together because he was like, oh, 223 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:03.360 you should talk to my wife. 224 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.279 And I'm like, okay, yeah. So so a shout out 225 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:07.799 to Sean. 226 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:10.879 Yeah, thank you, thank him very much for doing that. 227 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:14.320 He's yeah, he's He and I, you know, got together, 228 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:16.519 I guess, like eight years ago, and you know, he 229 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:18.200 came with a couple of boys and I came with 230 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:19.879 a couple of girls, and so it's kind of like 231 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.320 a like a like a weird Brady Munch type situation 232 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:25.159 and then we end up having a six year old together. 233 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:27.480 And so it's also I know, there's so many blended 234 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:30.799 families out there that I like, you know, I felt 235 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:34.519 like there's a way to connect with others and have 236 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:37.919 that shared experience. It's never a perfect road, you know, 237 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.759 you have, it's more complicated than than most families can be, 238 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.320 and so like I wanted to have a forum to 239 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.679 talk about that, but also kind of just overlap it 240 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.240 with you know, how we have pets and how pets 241 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:53.519 are part of our lives, part of our family, bring 242 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:57.000 us together and and so it was just kind of 243 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:58.840 like there, you know, I'm kind of speaking to people 244 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:03.279 who are who have pets, who have families and also 245 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:05.879 just want to know more about you know, different you know, 246 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:08.039 medical things that could be happening with their pets. So 247 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:10.039 it's kind of like there's a there's a couple of 248 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.600 different audiences I guess I'm reaching, but to me, they 249 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:13.919 kind of all blend together. 250 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:14.559 Right, Yeah. 251 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:17.519 I mean I just I read your recent one Leap 252 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:20.080 of Faith, which is really about your kids on that trip, 253 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.039 and it's just really very funny and I love that 254 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.320 you just dropped f bombs all over the place because 255 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:27.759 I feel like, yeah, that's me normally talking, except you know, 256 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:28.799 at work. 257 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:33.799 But yeah, I mean we're keeping it real and you know. 258 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:35.440 It's it's so perfect. 259 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:37.639 I feel like I want to I don't want to, 260 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.159 you know, portray social media these days, it's much it's 261 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.720 very much like here's this ideal situation. 262 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:44.919 It's just ridiculous. 263 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.320 You just think that. Yeah, and I wanted to be 264 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:52.120 pretty raw and exposed, and I think that is relatable 265 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.279 and hopefully somebody could read that and be like, yeah, 266 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:57.080 I feel the same way. Or I also feel like 267 00:11:57.600 --> 00:11:59.519 guilt or maybe a little bit of shame, or I 268 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:01.399 feel like maybe I'm not doing a great job. But 269 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:03.360 in the end, I think, you know, we have this 270 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:04.799 like perspective together. 271 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:06.240 Oh yeah, absolutely. 272 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:08.399 That's why I love your writing so much, because it 273 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:10.240 is it's like we're experiencing it together. 274 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.320 Yeah, thank you. That's very that's very kind. I mean, 275 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:15.600 I don't it started as me just kind of doing 276 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:18.320 like an online diary, and but my my biggest thing 277 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:19.799 is like I just I want to use it to 278 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:22.559 be able to reach people. And I have a lot 279 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:25.000 of moms that like reach out to me, like mom friends, 280 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:27.919 and they don't feel scared to call me and ask 281 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:30.360 me questions about you know, what's going on with their pet, 282 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.440 and I've often saved them trips to the er, and 283 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:36.000 so I feel like like and they're always like, I'm 284 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:38.000 so sorry, Like I feel like I should pay you. 285 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.000 I'm like, oh my god, no, Like, this is what 286 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:41.679 I do for a living. And if I can't help 287 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:44.879 my friends, you know, with their pets, like what is 288 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:46.600 what is the point of like my job and what 289 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:48.919 is the point of me? So I wanted a place 290 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.080 where people can feel free to ask questions and I 291 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.639 can answer, you know, general questions and help to educate 292 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:59.399 because I think, you know, it just makes people better 293 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:03.279 pet parents to have more information. And like I said, 294 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:05.440 sometimes you go to the ved and like you walk 295 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:06.919 away and you're like, I'm not really sure just what 296 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:07.600 happened there? 297 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:09.720 No exactly. Yeah, that's true. 298 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:12.279 I think it happens to more people than we think, 299 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:16.120 you know, because and I think they because I don't know, 300 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.799 people to me sometimes even for their own health when 301 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.879 they go to a doctor for themselves and you know, 302 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:26.679 everybody holds doctors up, you know, in this high pedestal, 303 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:30.600 and they're afraid to ask questions and they. 304 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.480 Walk out like, well, what was what the doctor say? Well, 305 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:35.120 I don't know. I used these big words, Well why 306 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:35.840 didn't you ask? 307 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:36.159 Oh? 308 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:37.480 I felt weird or you know. 309 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:40.440 And I think sometimes it might be the same with 310 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:43.200 people with their pets because they're afraid to ask. Because 311 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.360 we're just layman. Maybe we should know those terms, you know. 312 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.919 So yeah, for sure I think that happens. Yeah, yeah, 313 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:53.879 So I just I'm I'm I feel like we did this, 314 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:56.399 we got into this field because we want to help people. 315 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:59.480 And I don't I don't mind. I'm like, I please. 316 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:01.559 I was like, like, please, don't feel bad calling me. 317 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:04.559 I was doing the other day. I was like making 318 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:06.559 dinner and I had like two pots going, and then 319 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:08.320 I'm like in the background trying to make sure this 320 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:10.399 six year old doesn't actually murder himself. And then I 321 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.120 have a friend calling me and she's like, my dog 322 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:15.519 ate like this much gum and it has Zylos call, 323 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:16.120 which is. 324 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:19.440 You know, laughing, but oh my god. 325 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.639 So I'm like calculating the dose, calling her back, saying no, 326 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:26.159 it's actually okay, it'll be fine. And you know, so 327 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:28.360 I did feel like that one brief moment in time, 328 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:30.480 I was like I did like I was actually truly 329 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:33.279 multitasking it and I helped her and I made my 330 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:35.440 So it was one of those like rare moments where 331 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.120 I actually felt like I did a good job. 332 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:39.440 You did a great job. Your your six year old 333 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:42.759 didn't murder itself. That's the funniest line ever. Your friend's 334 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.559 dog was okay, and you cooked dinner like that doesn't 335 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.480 that's not the picture of multitasking. 336 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:50.960 Yes, oh my god. 337 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:53.519 Yeah, every once in a while it happens. 338 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:55.879 I'm sure it happens more than that. But that was very, 339 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:56.600 very funny. 340 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:00.360 So one of them. We should really talk about it. 341 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:03.039 And I am comfortable talking to you about it because 342 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:07.360 you were so kind and caring to send me when 343 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:10.080 you realize that Fredo, my dog, who looked so much 344 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.399 like you're wellie, when Fredo passed away, and you sent 345 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:17.200 me your blog about pet loss, and you know, it's 346 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:22.120 something that people don't talk about, or they're ashamed of it, 347 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.000 or they feel I think it's always people feel well. 348 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:29.080 I shouldn't have these strong feelings because it was my pet. 349 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:29.679 You know. 350 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.919 I had strong feelings then, like say when my dad 351 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:33.799 died or something. 352 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:35.320 But that's all normal. 353 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.600 And that article that you have about pet loss, I 354 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:40.919 think I told you when you sent it to me. 355 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:43.000 I started reading it on the air and I was like, oh, 356 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:46.919 I can't you know, And it was like it was 357 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:48.759 pretty recent, so it was like a few maybe like 358 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:50.960 four months or something after Fredo died, and I was like, 359 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:52.600 oh my god, I'm starting to cry. 360 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:53.840 I can't do this on the air. 361 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:57.519 Yeah, yeah, sorry, I'm sorry I had that effect. But 362 00:15:57.559 --> 00:16:00.879 it was like, I think you're it's like years past. 363 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:03.320 I think they can these feelings can come up any time, 364 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:05.799 you know. Sure, yes, you would see a picture of 365 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.639 him or think of something or something reminds you. And 366 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.559 it's like with grief, like with anything like with yeah, 367 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:15.679 people or pets, I think that happens, and yeah, it's 368 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:19.639 I could see how much love you have for him, 369 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:21.639 and I know you were giving me some updates on 370 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:23.360 what was going on with him, and I could get 371 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:25.360 a sense of like you just really wanted to make 372 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:28.039 him comfortable and as happy as possible, and that that 373 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:30.320 is what a good pet parent does. Well. 374 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:33.200 Thanks, I mean, and tell me if you hear this 375 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.519 from from you know, pet parents that you deal with, 376 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.399 I you know, the whole thing, And I mean I 377 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:41.480 talked about a little bit on the air but probably 378 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.159 not a lot more on Maria's MutS and stuff that 379 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:47.360 you know, he had bone cancer and the option is 380 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:49.519 always to me, it's like, oh, bone cancer, that's a 381 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.320 death sentence, but especially for a thirteen year old dog. 382 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.039 But the option was to amputate or put him under chemo, 383 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.759 which I didn't want to do either because of his age. 384 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:01.759 Because I also know and have friends who have kept 385 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:04.599 and done things to their pets because they wanted them 386 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.079 to stay alive for them, and I understand that, I'm 387 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:08.880 not judging it, but I just didn't think. 388 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:10.599 I didn't want to do that. 389 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:15.759 But yeah, after he died and I thought, oh, well, 390 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:20.079 maybe I should have, And I really had doubts for for, 391 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:22.759 you know, on and off for maybe I don't know, 392 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:25.160 a few weeks where then I was like, no, no, no, no, 393 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:26.880 it's I did the right you know, we did the 394 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:29.960 right thing. And then I was like, well, maybe, but 395 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.079 is that normal? Do you hear that from your patience too? 396 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.640 Yeah, it is one hundred percent normal, And I hear 397 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:38.799 that a lot, and I think that you know, it's 398 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.599 it's it's it's a reaction you're going to have, because 399 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:45.240 I think with when you lose when you lose somebody 400 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:47.799 that's important to you, you think of all the what 401 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:49.640