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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, five o'clock here on a Thursday afternoon. I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned at the beginning of the show, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a Thursday. It feels it feels like a Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Wednesday or tim start Tuesday, Wednesday off for

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting another week started after a nice little break.

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<v Speaker 2>But tomorrow's Friday, and then we get another weekend, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we have another weird week where it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sets up exactly the same, I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're trying to figure out what we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be doing for the Bowl game, because Louisville plays

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<v Speaker 2>at two o'clock on New Year's Eve. We are not

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe we were going to going to be

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<v Speaker 2>doing a show that day because of me filling in

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<v Speaker 2>on Whas in the mornings. But we also have the

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<v Speaker 2>postgame show that we are we're going to do, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll have that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know what we'll be doing before that,

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<v Speaker 2>because while the game's going on, I wouldn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the air because you know, I woul want

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<v Speaker 2>to be watching the game, and I feel like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who listen to this show would also,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, be probably watching the game. But regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>what we're doing before that, we'll have postgame show and

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<v Speaker 2>react to whatever happens Louisville and Washington, which still Man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the first time I feel like it's really

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<v Speaker 2>a collective thing within like the entire fan base, that

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<v Speaker 2>like people are seeing this for what it is. And

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<v Speaker 2>I hate using the glorified exhibition because you know that

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<v Speaker 2>that that's I mean, that's kind of what it is,

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<v Speaker 2>but it just sounds like, you know, it's I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say, it sounds like it's a waste of time,

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<v Speaker 2>and technically it kind of is. But there's value with

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<v Speaker 2>guys getting more practice reps, and it's kind of something

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do, right because these Bowl tie INDs,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, are tied to conferences, and you know the

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<v Speaker 2>conferences have you know, if everybody just opted out for

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<v Speaker 2>a Bowl game and the ACC couldn't fill one of

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<v Speaker 2>their spots, that would be an issue, right, So, like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of money still made from these Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>games when it comes to TV, and as long as

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<v Speaker 2>that's the case, they're they're still gonna happen. But it

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<v Speaker 2>does seem as if like nobody's trying to convince themselves

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<v Speaker 2>or anyone else that this is just a whatever game

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<v Speaker 2>because you don't even know, like you know, whatever happens

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<v Speaker 2>will not be in any way a like.

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<v Speaker 4>Global gets killed.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll suck and we'll have to react to it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it will know that it didn't really matter because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the team that you watched all year. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>team that's missing, you know, their best players for the

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<v Speaker 2>most part, that are going to be moving on to

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL, or at least hope to move on to

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. You're still gonna have, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Lacey's playing, and that's awesome. You're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>different quarterback. That's something that'll be interesting to see because

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<v Speaker 2>we only saw Tyler Shuck this year for the most part.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have your freshman running backs. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jacorey Brooks, Tyler Shuck, Ashton Jilatio they're not playing for

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<v Speaker 2>for obvious reasons. So it's not like I'm dreading it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm gonna watch it, and I hope they win.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I, just as as somebody who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my mood and my morale, my overall well being seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be impacted substantially in a good way when Louisville wins,

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<v Speaker 2>in a bad way when they lose. It's just very

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<v Speaker 2>weird for me to know that, Like I really couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>if Louisville gets beat bad. I wouldn't even be able

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<v Speaker 2>to make myself really that upset, because you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the same it's not the same thing. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are actually some Bowl games going on later tonight, which

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll get into that later, maybe give out some picks.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Austin's been In fact, you haven't shared any

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<v Speaker 2>recent wins to me. That doesn't mean that you're not

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<v Speaker 2>winning though, right like you, I want to act like

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<v Speaker 2>anytime you, oh you haven't so ye that then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>change that.

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<v Speaker 5>A little unluck I'm a little unlucky today with Toledo

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of blowing a toe.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh did they Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Now Pittsburgh is up thirty to twenty. They scored twenty

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<v Speaker 5>the answered points.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it in the fourth quarter yet?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, it's a fa third quarter, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think, Man, I I didn't see that coming, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a fourth court, and I hate that you're losing this bet.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it look good early.

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<v Speaker 5>All those bonus bets from other people's accounts.

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<v Speaker 4>My man is still hustling.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if somebody catches on to it and

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<v Speaker 2>they boot you out, there's another sports book you can

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<v Speaker 2>try with, right thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I like it. Man, good stuff, all right. So hopefully everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>That's tuning in now had a good Christmas. I know

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly did. I did talk about it at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the show that I did feel a little

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<v Speaker 2>empty on Christmas morning realizing that, like there was no

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<v Speaker 2>gifts that were being opened by my wife that I got.

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<v Speaker 2>We decided not to do gifts this year, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of couples do that from time to time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't think it would matter at all. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like, Okay, that saves me that last minute rush

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<v Speaker 2>shopping that I typically do, and you know, it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>better and we'll save money. And you know, I missed

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. I missed the madness that comes with it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like the scrambling at the last minute to make sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel like when she opens up presents

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<v Speaker 2>on Christmas morning, she'll say that I did great and

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<v Speaker 2>I went above and beyond. But we decided not to

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<v Speaker 2>to do gifts this year, and I've told her no more.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to. We're gonna need to. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have to go all out and buy each

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<v Speaker 2>other ten gifts a piece or anything like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I missed that part of it. But everything

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<v Speaker 2>else with Christmas was great. Got to spend some good

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<v Speaker 2>time with family, and with that, it feels like I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been here in a long long time. It feels like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the last time we were on the air,

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<v Speaker 2>which was Monday, was like two weeks ago. So it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be probably next weekend. I guess when you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you're finally I don't know. I guess Louis of Basketball

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<v Speaker 2>is back in action on Saturday, and then they'll play

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<v Speaker 2>on New Year's Day against UNC, which of course we

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<v Speaker 2>won't be.

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<v Speaker 4>Here because that's a holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I was gonna say, we'll feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we're back in rhythm with our normal, you know sporting

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<v Speaker 2>calendar where you have a couple of basketball games, you

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<v Speaker 2>know a week, you've got a couple more NFL Sundays

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<v Speaker 2>before the season comes to an end, or a few

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<v Speaker 2>of them, and you know, but with the holiday, it

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of feels like, you know, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing because it's downtown, right, Like, no, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way that many people have been pretty deductive

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<v Speaker 2>at work this week, right, Like even if you did

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<v Speaker 2>work Christmas Eve half day, you work Monday, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you're working today and tomorrow, like it just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's downtime. And I know certain industries don't have it downtime,

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<v Speaker 2>so I guess I'm not really talking to those of

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<v Speaker 2>you that are in those industries, but for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of us, like it's just kind of you know, even

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<v Speaker 2>when we are working, we're kind of on holiday break.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like, yeah, office is like, yeah, nobody's here today.

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<v Speaker 2>And next year, Christmas will fall on a Thursday, with

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Eve being Wednesday, that Friday, nobody's working, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be known as like the most like

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be everybody will use whatever vacation they have left

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<v Speaker 2>if they have any, uh, to make sure that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they get off that day because it's just I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know I used to work with somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>would know and this was a good strategy. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see what you would do, Austin, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do this, but I oftentimes when I used to work

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<v Speaker 2>my mother job before I was able to do this

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<v Speaker 2>full time, like it was a known thing. I used

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<v Speaker 2>to work in for a software company. We're talking typical,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cubicle office life. And you know, same thing

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<v Speaker 2>with us, like even though we have to work like

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas week, when we got off Christmas, even Christmas Day,

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<v Speaker 2>like that week, we would have been working, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been downtime as I just mentioned.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye, so my buddy would know, like, hey, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to take.

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<v Speaker 2>The day off after Christmas or the day before Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>Eve because I kind of know it's already gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat of an off day anyway. Yeah, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>can save those vacation days or that PTO. And I

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<v Speaker 2>always thought, you know what, that's not a bad idea,

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<v Speaker 2>Like would it be that bad to come in knowing

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<v Speaker 2>you really aren't going to have the full work day

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<v Speaker 2>because nobody's really working all that much, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Save those days.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, I just the thought of knowing

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't have to get up and like and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm off Like that's I still I think I probably

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<v Speaker 2>would always prefer that route, but say saving up days

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, basically getting kind of an off day

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't count against you.

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<v Speaker 4>There's some value there as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, Well I do a lot of other things

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<v Speaker 5>like promotions and other programming too, and not a lot

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<v Speaker 5>has been going on. So usually I'm here in the

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<v Speaker 5>office at like eight o'clock. So now I didn't do

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<v Speaker 5>a couple hours ago, like two hours before we started

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<v Speaker 5>the show. And it's I mean, it's good when I

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<v Speaker 5>can just consider this my job because I love coming

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<v Speaker 6>I love being a part of the show.

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<v Speaker 5>So like the biggest part is sleeping in for me,

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<v Speaker 5>So sleeping in just more or less felt like an

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<v Speaker 5>off day and I get to come in here and

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<v Speaker 5>have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So this this is work. They pay you, man, They're

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<v Speaker 2>not paying me. I need to talk to who do

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<v Speaker 2>I need to talk to?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, at the HR.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, the holiday schedule has has just made things

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<v Speaker 2>you know, different for us on this show, with us

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<v Speaker 2>being off Christmas, even Christmas day and then I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>mention it earlier for those of you that weren't with us, though,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll be filling in on has in the mornings,

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<v Speaker 2>just one station up from your dial, you go up

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<v Speaker 2>from you go from seven ninety right up to eate forty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the next station in line. And I'll be filling

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<v Speaker 2>it for Tony Cruz tomorrow morning, Monday morning, and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe Tuesday morning. So with that, you know you won't

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<v Speaker 2>be hearing me for a full three hours. I think

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<v Speaker 2>But like the thought of doing one hour just to like,

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know who.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure exactly what we're going to have in

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<v Speaker 2>store for you next week during the holiday week, once again.

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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball that you know, somebody would have told

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<v Speaker 2>me this was gonna happen two years ago or a

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<v Speaker 2>year and a half ago, I would have said, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But Jim Laernega is stepping down at Miami mid season

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<v Speaker 2>because they are laugh out loud bad like they are.

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<v Speaker 2>They're probably see if I can pull it up here.

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<v Speaker 2>They might be dead last in the ACC when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to ken Palm rating. In fact, no they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not even close to it because they've actually played

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<v Speaker 2>a competitive schedule where other teams have happened. But right

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<v Speaker 2>now Miami is sitting at four and eight. They've got

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<v Speaker 2>losses to Mount Saint Mary's, they lost to Charleston Southern

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<v Speaker 4>Got them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're only their best win on the season comes against

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<v Speaker 2>since November twenty first, so in a month's time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess this is the last month of his time there,

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<v Speaker 2>And clearly it did not end well for Jim Layernega.

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<v Speaker 2>But from November twenty first until December twenty first, they

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<v Speaker 2>in eight in the only was against Presbyterian. So with that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they had a long break here. They had

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<v Speaker 2>looks like ten days off. They don't play again until

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<v Speaker 2>New Year's Day. So clearly Miami found this long window

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<v Speaker 2>of time here as as as their time to take

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<v Speaker 2>to make them move and get and move on from Larnega.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna step step down, But I mean, I highly

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<v Speaker 2>doubt this was something he just randomly decided to do.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, that's big news. That's a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think there are many ACC coaches right now

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<v Speaker 2>that won't be ACC coaches after this year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that for certain, And in fact, I

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<v Speaker 2>think if then, if if you see some of these

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<v Speaker 2>guys stick around, we may be getting our answer as

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<v Speaker 2>far as is the rest of the ACC going to

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<v Speaker 2>commit to making this basketball conference much better than it

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<v Speaker 2>is now and getting it back to you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>can even recognize what it once was because it's fallen

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<v Speaker 2>off substantially. So Miami's open, Virginia's open, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't. I don't see Red Autry surviving its Syracuse

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<v Speaker 2>because they were terrible last year and they're even worse

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<v Speaker 2>this year. I mean, I feel like Syracuse is a

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<v Speaker 2>good example. Syracuse in Virginia are two schools that you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they value basketball. They prioritize it. It's clearly

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<v Speaker 2>what they're known for in sports more than football. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>they will, you know, go you know, they're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>whatever route they They're gonna take whatever route they have

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<v Speaker 2>to to get the best coach possible to where they

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<v Speaker 2>can win at a high level. Now, some don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the money that you know, these SEC schools have. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just can't see Syracuse. And again, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, maybe I'm wrong about us, because let's keep

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<v Speaker 2>in mind, Syracuse is really only is only Jim Behim right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was there forever he was there too long

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, so, like, maybe we'll learn

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<v Speaker 2>that this new sea, you know, Syracuse post Beheim doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>value basketball like they once did because it wasn't as

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<v Speaker 2>if they ever really had to go out there and

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<v Speaker 2>do anything crazy to make a splash higher before they

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<v Speaker 2>had one guy who kind of built them up and

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<v Speaker 2>stayed for seemingly one hundred years. But it's a good

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<v Speaker 2>job that I feel like a lot of people would want. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>I I mean, I can see them attracting some names,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they're a program that I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it would take that long to get them back. Same

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<v Speaker 2>thing with the Virginia I mean, they're going they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to need to go through like a rebranding obviously because

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Bennett had a very unique style and whatnot. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's a good job Miamis, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>that's now open. Like other coaches that may not be,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who knows Hubert Davis this year Carolina's seven

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<v Speaker 2>and five. I mean, he's one of them, he's one

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<v Speaker 2>National Championship Game in his first season I think it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But since then, like when you consider all the talent

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<v Speaker 2>they've had, I think, you know, to say that that's

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<v Speaker 2>been a failure would.

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<v Speaker 4>Be a lie. And there's a lot of ball left

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<v Speaker 4>this year.

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<v Speaker 2>But like if they end up being like a bubble

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<v Speaker 2>team this year, I kind of doubt that they would

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<v Speaker 2>do it, But I also wouldn't be shocked if they did,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, it's Carolina. They don't want to stay

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<v Speaker 2>down that long. So like, if that job opens up,

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<v Speaker 2>who else is maybe going to be looking for? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no doubt Mike Young at Virginia Tech could lose

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<v Speaker 2>his gig because they're they're really bad right now. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how good of a job that is,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, So that's probably not a

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<v Speaker 2>good example. That's a job that's gonna open up. But

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt that they're gonna be able to go out

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<v Speaker 2>there and find some big name. The only coach that

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<v Speaker 2>brought them legitimate success they lost quickly to Texas A

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<v Speaker 2>and M. That was when Buzz Williams was there. Leonard

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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton Florida State. You know, Leonard Hamilton's been there a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. That's a good job that I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people would want. And who they hire, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they make a change.

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<v Speaker 2>Earl Grant. I think it is in like his third

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<v Speaker 2>or fourth year. But like Boston College and Virginia Tech

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<v Speaker 2>are jobs that when they open up, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really expect them to go out there and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>make a big splash and spend a ton of money

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<v Speaker 2>and go pluck somebody's coach. But those other schools, I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feel like, this is what we're gonna learn. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>are they committed to like getting this thing fixed, not

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<v Speaker 2>only for the conference because they're not required for the

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<v Speaker 2>conference to be good. I mean that's not something that

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<v Speaker 2>they can control. But collectively, you're gonna see some some

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's already been a lot of changes made.

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<v Speaker 2>Right You've lost the legendary coaches and that's a big

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<v Speaker 2>factor in why the league has dropped so much when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to basketball. Meaning coach k moved on and

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<v Speaker 2>you know they've actually been able to stay pretty good. Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>they took a step back, not a huge step back,

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<v Speaker 2>but clearly a step back after Roy Williams moved on.

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<v Speaker 2>Patino Louisville clearly has never been the same since Patino

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<v Speaker 2>left Tony Bennett, he slid pretty far. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>then he quit on his guys, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the year, or I guess really before the

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<v Speaker 4>Ques.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, again we just mentioned Behem was there forever

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<v Speaker 2>well they you know, because you get what you pay for,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't. I have a hard time seeing you

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<v Speaker 2>being able to go get coaches that are at like

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<v Speaker 2>if you are if you're at an SEC school that

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<v Speaker 2>clearly is known, like for example, Buzz Williams. Buzz Williams

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<v Speaker 2>is a is at Texas A and M. They've got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of money resources, they can pay him whatever

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<v Speaker 2>because you know they have the money, and to them,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like, oh we really got to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not hurting for money. Therefore, whatever they spend on

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<v Speaker 2>a basketball coach is not going to be a sign

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<v Speaker 2>that there they love basketball. It's just gonna because they

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<v Speaker 2>have the means to do so. So he's always a

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<v Speaker 2>good he's always going to be at a place where

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<v Speaker 2>they're not. They're not a basketball school, and football is

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<v Speaker 2>always gonna matter way more. And you could be good

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<v Speaker 2>at Texas A and M. But like do you sell

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<v Speaker 2>out games regularly when it's not a big team in town? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>probably not because that's just not a basketball school. So

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm getting at is, let's say Syracuse opens up,

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<v Speaker 2>and like Syracuse was willing to pay Buzz Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>Syracuse is a better job because of the basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Tradition, because of their humongous fan base, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a basketball school to be honest with you, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>not an elite place, but like it's a when we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what's the better basketball job when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to tradition, history, proven fan base that will support you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's qs.

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<v Speaker 4>Over A and M all day.

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<v Speaker 2>But in this new world where A and M has

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<v Speaker 2>you know more, I guess financial security. Like the SEC

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<v Speaker 2>in the Big Ten, there's no concern about their league,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, losing money or dissolving. In the ACC, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe will ever dissolve, But the ability for the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC to ever get close to the amount of money

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<v Speaker 2>that the Big Ten in the SEC are gonna or

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<v Speaker 2>that they have now and that they're gonna have moving forward,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't think that's possible for the ACC.

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<v Speaker 2>So like maybe the money's the same, but overall you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a weaker league, Like would you well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>even saying that they would go after Buzz Williams. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just thinking like, if you want to go make a

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC, who would you go get that?

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<v Speaker 4>Where? Who would you go get? Where?

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<v Speaker 2>The scenario is played out like that where they think, Okay, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a commitment that they are gonna They're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>get whoever they want. And despite you know, the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>no longer having the momentum that it once did, this.

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<v Speaker 4>Guy was still willing to go there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I just don't know, I don't know how it happens, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 2>I am harpin on the leagu theyve got to go

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<v Speaker 2>they do, but I don't, you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's it's a risk regardless because I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>who the names are that you feel like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>Auburn and Cali Perry left Kentucky to go to Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 2>Of moves that, like you could see, oh yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>they may be pretty good. And sure enough, now as

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<v Speaker 2>we speak, the SEC is the best league in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think it's close. All right, quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're on hold, stick with us, We'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>you on the other side. You can also text in

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<v Speaker 2>so again five O two five seven, one, seventy nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred boone lines are open. Keep a lock right here

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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>So we talked about this a lot in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the three o'clock hour, and I've been nerding out on

433
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<v Speaker 2>just numbers because I think Netflix having the NFL on

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Beyonce at halftime, I mean, they didn't need to.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's aware that the NFL is in a league of

436
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<v Speaker 2>its own when it comes to the amount of viewers

437
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<v Speaker 2>that they have for their product. And again, it wouldn't

438
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<v Speaker 2>shock me if they continue to get more and more

439
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<v Speaker 2>dominant and separate themselves from every other league because the

440
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<v Speaker 2>NFL is just different. We all knew that but I

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<v Speaker 2>think Netflix on Christmas Day with everything that came with it,

442
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were just they were flexing. So to

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<v Speaker 2>see you, I'm trying to find some numbers as far

444
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<v Speaker 2>as just how many people signed up, and I don't

445
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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's out there. I just I haven't seen it yet.

446
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<v Speaker 2>But there is a antenna. There is an outlet that

447
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<v Speaker 2>covers like television and streaming, and they've got a chart

448
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<v Speaker 2>here that shows from December twenty three to November twenty four,

449
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<v Speaker 2>meaning December last year till this past November. They show

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<v Speaker 2>the daily sign ups that Netflix, Paramount Plus, and Peacock

451
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<v Speaker 2>have and clearly there's huge spikes on certain dates where

452
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<v Speaker 2>they get way more people signing up. I mean the Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest day for Netflix to have new sign ups

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<v Speaker 2>was probably not a coincidence and not a surprise that

455
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<v Speaker 2>it was the day that Jake Paul and Mike Tyson

456
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<v Speaker 2>were fighting. So here I am thinking that everybody has Netflix.

457
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<v Speaker 2>I could you not have Netflix? Well, a lot of

458
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<v Speaker 2>people didn't have it, so they signed up for because

459
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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to watch Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the day where Peacock had the most sign ups in

461
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<v Speaker 2>one day just so happened to be when they had

462
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<v Speaker 2>exclusive NFL AFC wild Card games, to where if you

463
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<v Speaker 2>did not have Peacock, you were not watching. So it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense to do this with you know, with your

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<v Speaker 2>one offs, because you're not making as big of a

466
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<v Speaker 2>financial investment in getting one game or two games.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, if you.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Wanted to just say, hey, we want to have weekly

469
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<v Speaker 2>NFL games every week and we want to you know,

470
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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL wanted to entertain that, that's clearly a

471
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<v Speaker 2>really really big commitment. And I mean it's just a

472
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<v Speaker 2>huge I mean, I'm not saying Netflix would ever do that.

473
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<v Speaker 2>But one of the things I talked about earlier is

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't know why ESPN or why Disney doesn't

475
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<v Speaker 2>try to sell ESPN the Netflix one. They could make

476
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<v Speaker 2>a ton of money on it. Also, the brands don't

477
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<v Speaker 2>seem to they don't need to be aligned, but they

478
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<v Speaker 2>kind of are. And I think ESPN, despite it being

479
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<v Speaker 2>dominant and being the worldwide leader in sports, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that could that holds them back a

481
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<v Speaker 2>little bit is that they're underneath Disney, because I just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think they've got to be a little

483
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<v Speaker 2>bit PC more so.

484
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<v Speaker 4>Than people want them to be.

485
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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I just clearly they're their livelihood as

486
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<v Speaker 2>a company is way more based off of Disney than

487
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<v Speaker 2>it is ESPN.

488
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<v Speaker 4>You spend's just just a component of what they do.

489
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<v Speaker 2>And again it's it's not like it's nothing, but like Netflix,

490
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<v Speaker 2>I thought showed us a little bit that, you know,

491
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<v Speaker 2>if they wanted to, I feel like they would have

492
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<v Speaker 2>the resources to make it to where everything that's currently

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<v Speaker 2>under ESPN or that that is technically under Disney, if

494
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<v Speaker 2>it was all within Netflix, like I think that would

495
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<v Speaker 2>be phenomenal. I doubt it will ever happen, but I

496
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<v Speaker 2>was really impressed with the production and everything that came

497
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<v Speaker 2>with watching the NFL yesterday on Netflix. And I don't

498
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<v Speaker 2>really know what to expect, but I thought it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure that doub will continue to uh to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get as much live sports, maybe not as

501
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<v Speaker 2>they can, but just you know, continue to kind of see, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>did we you know is this working right? We are

503
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<v Speaker 2>we getting a lot of new sign ups? Are we

504
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<v Speaker 2>getting you know? Do we have the right production crew

505
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<v Speaker 2>on hand? That kind of stuff? All right, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to the pone one five two is the number if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to jump in and join us. This person

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<v Speaker 2>has been waiting patiently. Let's go to Randall. Randall, you're

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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>What's happening, hey, Nick k Austin. For a second there,

511
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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was on a waiting list for my

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<v Speaker 3>student loans. But thanks for taking my call. Happy holidays,

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<v Speaker 3>it did brother. So about the Netflix thing, man, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have it. It's one of the only streaming services

515
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<v Speaker 3>I don't have. Still kept up with games, you know,

516
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<v Speaker 3>love seeing Baltimore route Houston. I guess we're learning that

517
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<v Speaker 3>Houston is not as good as they seemed earlier in

518
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<v Speaker 3>this season. I did expect Pittsburgh to play a closer

519
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<v Speaker 3>game against Casey. Me too, thought maybe case that would

520
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<v Speaker 3>be their final or or one of the games that

521
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<v Speaker 3>they dropped this year. But apparently not. But it got

522
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<v Speaker 3>a little bone to pick with you on the quality

523
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<v Speaker 3>of the games. I know viewership is what's most important,

524
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<v Speaker 3>but we had five NBA games yesterday and four out

525
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<v Speaker 3>of five were one of two possession games at the end,

526
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<v Speaker 3>and I thought they were just actually more exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were more exciting than then then. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like most NBA games are in the regular season. Uh,

529
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<v Speaker 2>and that that's good for the NBA. I just feel

530
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<v Speaker 2>like where it would have been a bit I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure plenty of people still watched it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the NF if the NFL didn't decide to

533
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<v Speaker 2>have games on Christmas Day, yesterday could have been a

534
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<v Speaker 2>lot better day for the NBA, because I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>think many people noticed that the product was as good

536
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<v Speaker 2>as it was because they were just more so locked

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<v Speaker 2>into the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually ended up later in the evening watching the second

540
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<v Speaker 2>the last two games, and yeah, they were they were

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<v Speaker 2>for NBA games. I was more entertained than I've been

542
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<v Speaker 2>in a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Lakers Warriors one was especially fun. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just thanks to taking our call, no problem cards. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope we win this weekend against ku hopefull. Yeah, whole game,

546
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<v Speaker 3>no matter who's playing. And I met you in public, man,

547
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<v Speaker 3>you're you're a great guy, failing man, just like myself.

548
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<v Speaker 4>And okay, thank you, love your love.

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<v Speaker 3>Your co hosts. Austin, I mean Austin, that's one of

550
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<v Speaker 3>my favorite cities, Austin, Massachusetts. So y'all have a good night.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you really appreciate that. Yeah, the NBA. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I I've been This kind of speaks to where I'm

553
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<v Speaker 2>at with the NBA because it's been something that's been

554
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<v Speaker 2>out there to discuss on this show. We never make

555
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<v Speaker 2>it like the lead, and it would never be something

556
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<v Speaker 2>that we spend a ton of time on, but it's

557
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<v Speaker 2>it's been a national storyline here lately.

558
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<v Speaker 4>That the NBA does have.

559
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<v Speaker 2>Actually, what I think made it a story is they

560
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<v Speaker 2>finally acknowledge that they have the people aren't watching like

561
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<v Speaker 2>like they need them to. And it's been like that

562
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<v Speaker 2>for a few years to where if you really looked

563
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<v Speaker 2>at where NBA regular season games ranked as far as

564
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<v Speaker 2>viewership compared to like some of the most random college

565
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<v Speaker 2>football games you can think of, among like Power four,

566
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<v Speaker 2>Power five programs, you'd be surprised. The NBA does not

567
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<v Speaker 2>do great and viewership for their games. Now they do

568
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<v Speaker 2>really well everywhere else because there's so much drama in

569
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<v Speaker 2>that league.

570
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<v Speaker 4>But I kind of haven't really wanted.

571
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<v Speaker 2>To discuss the NBA like as a topic because I

572
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<v Speaker 2>just feel like nobody. I just feel like the NBA,

573
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<v Speaker 2>if you're not really into it, it's just kind of

574
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<v Speaker 2>background noise anymore, and maybe you tune in when he

575
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<v Speaker 2>gets closer to the postseason because that is a better product.

576
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<v Speaker 2>But even then, in the seven game series that they have,

577
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got teams that come out and just

578
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<v Speaker 2>know not our night. Well we'll we'll tank and we're

579
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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna know that this is just one loss and

580
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<v Speaker 2>we've got three more games to you know, to play

581
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<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>It is, Like that's just you know, it's been that

583
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<v Speaker 4>way for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>But as society evolves, I think sports needs too as well.

585
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<v Speaker 2>Like the NBA in a eighty two game regular season

586
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<v Speaker 2>with their really not being like just the competitive nature

587
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<v Speaker 2>is so visibly not what it once was. And I

588
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<v Speaker 2>know I sound like a boomer, like back in my day,

589
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:56.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, they would fistfight.

590
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<v Speaker 4>These guys could never.

591
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<v Speaker 2>Hang in the in the you know, the nineties NBA

592
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<v Speaker 2>where they were bullies out there. Like it's that's not

593
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<v Speaker 2>at all where I'm coming from, And I don't want

594
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<v Speaker 2>to sound like that, but the NBA is not to me.

595
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<v Speaker 2>More often than not, it's not just about where the

596
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<v Speaker 2>game's competitive, right, did somebody keep it within four or

597
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<v Speaker 2>five points or do they get be bout thirty. I mean,

598
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<v Speaker 2>I just mean, like play by play the game, it's

599
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<v Speaker 2>just like it's at times it seems unserious. And that

600
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<v Speaker 2>sounds crazy because we're talking about, you know, the National

601
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<v Speaker 2>Basketball Association guys who are the best players on the

602
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<v Speaker 2>planet to get paid millions and millions of dollars because

603
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<v Speaker 2>you know they're great. But as a as a sports

604
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<v Speaker 2>fan and a basketball super fan, basketball is my favorite sport,

605
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<v Speaker 2>always has, always will be.

606
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<v Speaker 4>I just don't think that the NBA product is I mean,

607
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<v Speaker 4>is very good at all.

608
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<v Speaker 2>And I used to be the guy that would tell you, yeah,

609
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<v Speaker 2>the NBA is actually you know, whenever people used to say, well,

610
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<v Speaker 2>I don't watch NBA because they let them walk or

611
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<v Speaker 2>they don't call travel, they don't play no defense. Like

612
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<v Speaker 2>I used to be the guy that would bark back

613
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<v Speaker 2>at people and be like, do you realize that these

614
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<v Speaker 2>are the best players on the planet at the sport

615
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.240
<v Speaker 2>And it may not look like a college game and

616
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you may not care because you know it's an NBA team,

617
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>not your college team. But like, the product of basketball

618
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>is elite. I used to be able to say that

619
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<v Speaker 2>and feel like it was real. Now I can't even lie.

620
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.119
<v Speaker 2>I can't lie to myself. I can't lie to anybody.

621
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<v Speaker 2>The NBA is just not you know, it's a rare

622
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<v Speaker 2>occasion where like you can tune in to watch a

623
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<v Speaker 2>game and it feel like, oh, wow, there's a big

624
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:24.559
<v Speaker 2>game here because they play eighty two of them and

625
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<v Speaker 2>you know, any this is something that's been going on

626
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<v Speaker 2>for a long time, so this isn't new. So I

627
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<v Speaker 2>can't necessarily claim that this is why they've had such

628
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<v Speaker 2>a drop in viewership in recent years. But maybe this

629
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<v Speaker 2>was like the starting point because people love competitiveness, competition,

630
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<v Speaker 2>that's that's what's the entertainment part of it, right, Like,

631
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<v Speaker 2>if you're a die hard fan of your team, you're

632
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<v Speaker 2>gonna watch regardless NBA, college football, college basketball, because that's

633
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<v Speaker 2>just you know, it's part of your culture as a

634
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:56.000
<v Speaker 2>sports fan, like that's your team, your ride or die.

635
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<v Speaker 2>You know, they could have a team that's really boring

636
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<v Speaker 2>to watch play, but you're gonna you're gonna still watch.

637
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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they may have a really exciting team, so that's

638
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit different. But when you when it comes

639
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<v Speaker 2>to you not having a dog in the fight and

640
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<v Speaker 2>you not even really like let's say, you can't even

641
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<v Speaker 2>bet on it, what do you want if you like

642
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<v Speaker 2>if you like the sport, you want competitiveness. You want

643
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<v Speaker 2>to see a good game. When you get to the

644
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<v Speaker 2>end of a game and somebody says, wow, that was

645
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<v Speaker 2>a great game, you know what, when it usually ends

646
00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:23.799
<v Speaker 2>up being a really competitive game. In the NBA, there's

647
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<v Speaker 2>just not that competitiveness. And when you have guys who

648
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<v Speaker 2>you know are healthy, meaning like they're not hurt, they're

649
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<v Speaker 2>not like nursing an injury, they're not trying to get

650
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<v Speaker 2>back to one hundred percent. When you have guys that

651
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<v Speaker 2>are just not playing in games because the team decided

652
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 2>they need rest and they're doing load management, like that's

653
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<v Speaker 2>the telltale sign like this is an unseerious league. If

654
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<v Speaker 2>you're not out there every single night trying to win

655
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>and prioritizing every game as if it's really important, it's

656
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<v Speaker 2>not competitive. It's lightly competitive. And I just think enough

657
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<v Speaker 2>people have realized, like they may still keep up with

658
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<v Speaker 2>it because you can keep up with it and not

659
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<v Speaker 2>watch it, because I think that's what actually happens.

660
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<v Speaker 4>In the NBA.

661
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<v Speaker 2>The NBA is very big as far as the culture

662
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<v Speaker 2>has been for a long time. You know the fact

663
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<v Speaker 2>that these guys now team up all the time, the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that their players are very visible and their social media,

665
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>like people keep up with the NBA stars and who's

666
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 2>good and who's not and the drama and everything that

667
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 2>comes with it, And as long as people are doing that,

668
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 2>the NBA is going to be just fine. However, I

669
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<v Speaker 2>don't see with the way the league currently is as

670
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<v Speaker 2>far as just the competitiveness of the eighty two game

671
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<v Speaker 2>regular season and how long it lasts. I just can't

672
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<v Speaker 2>see a scenario where they keep doing what they're doing

673
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<v Speaker 2>and the viewership does anything but continue to drop. And again,

674
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<v Speaker 2>maybe that ends up not being as important, because again,

675
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<v Speaker 2>if they're still talked about in a major way, the

676
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<v Speaker 2>TV networks are still willing to pay billions of dollars

677
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.519
<v Speaker 2>for their rights to broadcast their games, then the NBA

678
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>will be just fine. But like it makes me sad

679
00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like the NBA used to be something

680
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>much different than it is now. And I guess the

681
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<v Speaker 2>only reason it's kind of become a story lately is

682
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<v Speaker 2>because I think it's for the first time the NBA,

683
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<v Speaker 2>they can't run from it. They're acknowledging that they they're

684
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<v Speaker 2>not people aren't watching their product they like they used to.

685
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<v Speaker 2>It's actually impressive to know that. And yet you know,

686
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<v Speaker 2>because of their partnership with the ESPN, I mean it's

687
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<v Speaker 2>constantly in your face, meaning the NBA, but like not

688
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 2>a ton of people are watching it, like you might think,

689
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<v Speaker 2>real quick, this is something I didn't realize. But this

690
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<v Speaker 2>is from Chrispinini of The Athletic just more from the

691
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<v Speaker 2>Netflix NFL Games yesterday. This makes sense Netflix. They are

692
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<v Speaker 2>clearly getting some good results and some good feedback is

693
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<v Speaker 2>they dip their toe in live sports, but they don't

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<v Speaker 2>actually produce any of it. So yesterday's NFL Games was

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<v Speaker 2>produced by CBS and the NFL Network collectively. When Raw

696
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<v Speaker 2>comes there, it's going to be completely WWE Raw, it's

697
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<v Speaker 2>going to be WWE's production crew, nothing net Netflix produces.

698
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<v Speaker 2>Jake Paul's company produced the Mike Tyson Jake Paul Fight

699
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<v Speaker 2>and the Women's World Up. It was on an international feed,

700
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>so you know, that makes it to where they don't

701
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<v Speaker 2>have to do a whole lot of spend as far

702
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<v Speaker 2>as you know, production, and that makes me think they're

703
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<v Speaker 2>going to continue to do it the way they're doing them,

704
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<v Speaker 2>because if they ever did try to, you know, have

705
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<v Speaker 2>a weekly schedule of live sports, or maybe they bought

706
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<v Speaker 2>ESPN like I threw out there, they would have to

707
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<v Speaker 2>have their own I guess they could just absorb the

708
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<v Speaker 2>ESPN production, to be honest with you. But anyways, quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll come back on the other side, wrap it up,

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<v Speaker 2>keep it locked right here on Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's

712
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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven nine.

713
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<v Speaker 2>Day good stuff here as we wrap it up on

714
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 2>a Thursday afternoon. And I love seeing my man Austin

715
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and they're riding a bet that I don't know if

716
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>it's I can't hear him unless he hits the there's

717
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 2>a button that we have to hit to communicate with

718
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<v Speaker 2>one another whenever we're not on the air, and I'm

719
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>just I'm not hearing what's happening. But I'm seeing him

720
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 2>into this game and I'm locked down. I'm kind of

721
00:31:59.400 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>living through you.

722
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Are you?

723
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, did you get overtime?

724
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.079
<v Speaker 5>We're gett We're getting overtime now. So the plus six

725
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 5>and a half is still looking good in college football,

726
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 5>it's it starts going to the two points like after

727
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<v Speaker 5>like a certain overtime, right hole.

728
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<v Speaker 2>Over time, No, it's I think after the first two

729
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.039
<v Speaker 2>then you have to start going for two or something

730
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 2>like that. And I kind of feel like that's awesome

731
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>in theory, but I've watched games where I'm like, yeah,

732
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:22.279
<v Speaker 2>this shouldn't be how it's decided.

733
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the Georgia Georgia Tech game.

734
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.240
<v Speaker 4>Yes, exactly so. But over time in a bowl game, hey,

735
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's entertaining. The line and you've got Toledo. Did

737
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 2>you go money line Toledo?

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00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:34.640
<v Speaker 6>I just went, uh, spread.

739
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:35.799
<v Speaker 4>Were they what was it? What was the line?

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00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 6>You got six and a half?

741
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.519
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Uh so you're in good shape, right, Yeah.

742
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.359
<v Speaker 5>We're looking good and I still have well it's still

743
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.160
<v Speaker 5>a part of a parlay. It's one leg down. And

744
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 5>we had the Rutgers Kansas State game that just started.

745
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.160
<v Speaker 5>I did not following that right now, but I have

746
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:50.240
<v Speaker 5>Rutgers plus seven and in that one.

747
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.839
<v Speaker 2>It's Kansas State three. Nothing early on at the live

748
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:56.519
<v Speaker 2>line is plus nine and a half. So you know,

749
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I like, I like your chances there. Again, I don't

750
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 2>know enough about who's playing and who's not. But yeah,

751
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.279
<v Speaker 2>we've got one more bowl game later tonight, Arkansas State

752
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:05.119
<v Speaker 2>and bowling green.

753
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I have I have Bowling Green minus n

754
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 5>nice nice on.

755
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Hey, hey you you you're looking you're looking good in

756
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.799
<v Speaker 2>the first one right now. And then I mean, and

757
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:19.640
<v Speaker 2>what's what I can tell just by seeing you go

758
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.200
<v Speaker 2>through this this bet is that you know, for a

759
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.319
<v Speaker 2>while you felt good, then you thought you were dead,

760
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 2>and then now you're back alive, and now it's overtimes.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the that's what makes it. That's what makes

762
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 4>it a lot of fun.

763
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 6>Imagine not having gambling.

764
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's it's it has enhanced the overall experience

765
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 2>of being a fan of watching sports because you can

766
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>quite literally, you know, make yourself pull for anybody that

767
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:44.799
<v Speaker 2>you bet on because you want to win. And uh yeah,

768
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.839
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of fun. I don't looks like tomorrow.

769
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah tomorrow, I mean I I because of what everybody knows,

770
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.079
<v Speaker 2>these bowl games that aren't part of the college football

771
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>playoff have become you know, you just never really know

772
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna get. And I would be liar if

773
00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:58.799
<v Speaker 2>I told you that I had a good feel for

774
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 2>like which teams have the most opt outs, but just

775
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>the teams themselves playing tomorrow. I mean Georgia Tech and

776
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Vander But that should low key be a good game.

777
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Those are two teams that, like, they'll be happy to

778
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.480
<v Speaker 2>be there because that's not something they've done in a while,

779
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:12.760
<v Speaker 2>at least, you know, have the seasons they had where

780
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 2>they were you know, as good as they were, especially Vandy,

781
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Texas Tech and Arkansas, Like that's kind of a rivalry matchup.

782
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a ton of opt outs because if

783
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>there's a ton of guys in the portal from Arkansas,

784
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.039
<v Speaker 2>but and then Texas A and m USC. I mean again,

785
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>who knows who's playing, But those are like, those are

786
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.400
<v Speaker 2>games people will watch. We'll mock them probably and act like,

787
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, what are we doing here, but people will

788
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:34.559
<v Speaker 2>tune in, people will bet on it, and it'll be fun.

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00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>All Right, we're out of time, you guys, enjoy your

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00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>evening and have a good one.