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<v Speaker 1>Hell, Everyboddy to the facilities of the iHeartMedia Megaplex. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel. This is the state wide edition of The

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<v Speaker 1>Big Bloon Side. I've heard comments from Vince Merriw and

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<v Speaker 1>Craig Skinner and Cameron Mills, and now's your chance to

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<v Speaker 1>hear Billy Rutledge. Yours truly and Jeff piicorl will be

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<v Speaker 1>with us for the entire show. We've given Aaron Gersha

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<v Speaker 1>on the night off. He is already in Atlanta preparing

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<v Speaker 1>for Kentucky and Duke stick around for the state wide

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<v Speaker 1>BBI Border to Border. It is the Big bloon Sider.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel, Billy rutleds here in the studio and on

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<v Speaker 1>the Celebrity Hotline, mister Jeff Pecorrol, former Wildcat who is

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<v Speaker 1>of course color analyst on the UK Radio network, Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Row coming off of bye week, going into a game

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<v Speaker 1>you should win by well a lot. What is it

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<v Speaker 1>like for the players right now? Do you think is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, you worry about people being over confident,

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<v Speaker 1>but you being the former player, they're humans, they're young.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to think that they're looking at this game

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<v Speaker 1>like just a chance to get well and nothing more. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I liked it because I knew I was

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna play in a game like this, so I

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<v Speaker 2>was excited about it. So yeah, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like the Bob Yuker. You can't played. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty to thirty guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, gotta be up by thirty or down by thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then you got to play for thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I understand. Uh, look, let's face it, Murray

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<v Speaker 1>State's having its trouble this year, as Stoops put it

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<v Speaker 1>earlier today, not the kind of year their first year

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<v Speaker 1>coach anticipated. And did I have this right? They've lost

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<v Speaker 1>to both of the all four of the Dakota's North

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<v Speaker 1>and South Dakota and Dakota and State. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>those are really good, really good FCS teams. They really

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<v Speaker 1>are some of the best, if not the best. But

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<v Speaker 1>we saw you Tea Chattanooga come in here a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago in Scare Kentucky, didn't we Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Monks dead and there's there's been several teams. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't overlook anybody. And then Mark said it today

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<v Speaker 2>in his press conference. You know you can't just walk

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<v Speaker 2>out there expecting to win. You've got to try. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to play hard. He wouldn't talk about injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was interesting, but I've got to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>a game like this, we're gonna see cutter bowlie because

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<v Speaker 2>we saw in the Florida game and now they have

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<v Speaker 2>tape and they can show him. You can't make that

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<v Speaker 2>pass from the HASH all over the opposite hash all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to the sideline on a twelve yard out

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't do that. That's why. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>a team that's more and look, they're not sec speed, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's it's it'll be a little easier for him

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<v Speaker 2>to read the defense get the ball out of his hand.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would expect to see him, especially with Brock

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<v Speaker 2>banged up and he's hurting. Now the coach wouldn't tell

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<v Speaker 2>us how much, but I expect to see him early

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<v Speaker 2>and often in that game. Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, we're gonna talk to Jeff about basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're on the eve of a huge game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know he saw those stoops press conference today

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I remember Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Archer after a game like this that the Kentucky should

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<v Speaker 1>have won by a bunch and got up big and

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<v Speaker 1>then had to fight off the team and was playing

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember which. Mike Archer told me the following week,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, middle of the second quarter, I had second

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<v Speaker 1>and third teamers coming up to me saying I'm ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go in coach, which I guess is normal. But

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<v Speaker 1>you got to take care of business, don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's just it. Look, you've got to either

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<v Speaker 2>take the ball and score or if they get it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a three and out. And then because what happens

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<v Speaker 2>to them, especially when you're in the type of season

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<v Speaker 2>that they're in, and really Kentucky for that matter, when

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<v Speaker 2>you've only won one or two or three games and

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<v Speaker 2>you're at this point, the snowball really rolls a lot faster,

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<v Speaker 2>and so once one bad thing happens, it just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of multiplies on top of itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye week came out a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of injuries on this team, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as of late, stoops in Kentucky haven't been great out

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<v Speaker 3>of bye weeks. I know it's Murray State, but would

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<v Speaker 3>you do anything differently to try to get the guys

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<v Speaker 3>locked in in the first half for this one, or

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<v Speaker 3>do you just hope that they're ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I think really, in this type of game, you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to do that. I mean, look, I hope to

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<v Speaker 2>see a lot of the younger guys play. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of fire, but the veterans have to

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<v Speaker 2>get out there and put a couple series in and

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<v Speaker 2>get a league. This is kind of like that that

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<v Speaker 2>third preseason NFL game when the Ones play maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>full quarter because they want to get you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>want to get their timing down for next week, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they have to do. This is the team,

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<v Speaker 2>as you said, is really banged up. So all those

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<v Speaker 2>guys that are hurting, hopefully you don't have to play them.

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<v Speaker 2>The one guy would like to see who might be

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<v Speaker 2>able to play, as Maxwell Harriston. He's been practicing, he's

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<v Speaker 2>been getting reps. He's you know, I'd like to see

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<v Speaker 2>him because you can't just throw him into the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care how good you aren't here for your

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<v Speaker 2>Dion Sanders at quarterback. You cannot miss six, seven, eight weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it's been and then expect to just walk right

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<v Speaker 2>out there and be your all American self, So I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to see him get a couple series in to

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<v Speaker 2>get used to the tempo of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Vince Merrill mentioned him specifically tonight sitting in for Stoops,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, Harriston looked really good in practice, but

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<v Speaker 1>again that's practice, you know, controlled environment.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but he should yeah, exactly kept fresh legs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's true. You know, I was going to say

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<v Speaker 1>we buried the lead, but really this has been out

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<v Speaker 1>there for eight hours and Tom talked to Vince about

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<v Speaker 1>it as well. Somebody put the question to Stoops about

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<v Speaker 1>the rumors that he was gonna just hang it up

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<v Speaker 1>because he's just you know, doesn't like or college football,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the first coach to do that, and he

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<v Speaker 1>emphatically put it down. Jeff, but one word, zero zero chance.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your reaction to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of thought that's where that he has to

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<v Speaker 2>say that. I mean, even if even if he's already

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<v Speaker 2>written a resignation letter and handed it off, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>to talk that way because you can't lose your team completely,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean that's you know, you've already heard

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<v Speaker 2>the cracks or the scenes and people are starting to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it and so he had to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>so I thought he shot it down nicely, said no

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<v Speaker 2>zero next question, Yeah, you know well in the university

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<v Speaker 2>looked ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's say he was talking to recruits too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well see that's the biggest thing. You can't you

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<v Speaker 2>can't announce something or quit now because this is the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest period as teams are in playoffs and lose and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. Now more kids are wanting to come out. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a very important next three games for recruiting.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be a make or break type time because

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<v Speaker 2>these guys are making their last official visits to schools.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's huge for him to be in at one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent. And then what I was going to say

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<v Speaker 2>is simply as the buyout for him is whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>is forty four and change. But he also you have

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<v Speaker 2>to include the assistants that have guaranteed the contracts and

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<v Speaker 2>that puts over fifty million. This school can't afford a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty plus million dollars bios, it's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You're there's a buy not a buy out in place.

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<v Speaker 1>If he retires. It's only if they fired.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. But again, but again, why would you leave? And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care how much you make. He's not selling

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<v Speaker 2>pathy Van weekl all right, I don't care how much

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<v Speaker 2>bourbon these You're not leaving any man in his right

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<v Speaker 2>Mind's like going to leave forty five million dollars on

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's right, Yeah, it's it's not a bad

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<v Speaker 3>salary if your Mark stoops. But can you relate to

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<v Speaker 3>him a little bit With how the sports changed, YEF,

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<v Speaker 3>with these guys wanting money all the time or playing times,

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard not to look at the job, put the

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<v Speaker 3>money aside for a second and think that it's gotten

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<v Speaker 3>a lot harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy. I think what you're going to see in college football,

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<v Speaker 2>it's already happening at some schools, especially the bigger ones,

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<v Speaker 2>is you're going to have, for lack of a better word,

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<v Speaker 2>a general manager. And that person is good. The coach

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<v Speaker 2>is because he wants to coach. Nick Saban wanted to coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Saban doesn't want to deal with the money issues

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<v Speaker 2>and treasurer Let the GM do that. Mark wants to coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a coach. It's all he's done ever since he

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<v Speaker 2>quit playing. His father was his coaches. Brothers are all

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<v Speaker 2>coaches all he wants to do is get out there

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<v Speaker 2>on the field with the guys. What's bothering him the

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<v Speaker 2>most is And he told us this, Dick, remember two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, he said, I got eighty five free agents

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<v Speaker 2>every year, you know, And it's just I'm not coaching anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not fun anymore. Now. Your paycheck is fun, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and winning at places like Ole Miss is fun. But

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the off the field stuff isn't fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why you've seen some great coaches national champions

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<v Speaker 2>in basketball and in football say enough, I've had it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta think that. And again people want to gripe

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<v Speaker 1>about the NCAA, which is the collection of schools. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the schools that make up the rules and the road

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<v Speaker 1>maps if they can somehow get there. And I cannot imagine, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>why schools would not want to do this unless there

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<v Speaker 1>were legal roadblocks put in place, a salary cap of

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<v Speaker 1>some sort. They want guard rails, and it's guardrails they

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, like how you can do things so you're

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<v Speaker 1>not breaking rules. I'm talking about a salary cap, a

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<v Speaker 1>salary structure. Yeah, you could have some schools they can

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<v Speaker 1>afford more than others. But cap it. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>see that in the pros. Now, you know you got

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees, you got the Oakland A's right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only way to really pull all this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>back in in college athletics and keep guys like say

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<v Speaker 1>and Jay Wright and all these other you know whoever

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<v Speaker 1>these coaches are Tony Bennett, Yeah, who decided, no, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not what I signed up for.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Dick, that is that is the wish of every

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<v Speaker 2>coach and probably every chancellor, dean, whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call them, at every university. But here's the sticking point.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no Marvin Mitchell out there for these guys. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not unionized, and as long as they are quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>free agents, you can't cap that every league that you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, because it's illegal. It's called free trade. Once

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<v Speaker 2>these guys become an employee of the university, which they

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<v Speaker 2>look but they're not happen. But if I'm there, but

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm their attorney, I'm saying we do not want

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<v Speaker 2>cap you. But the NCAA has to figure out some

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<v Speaker 2>way that maybe you make it. If you're a student,

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<v Speaker 2>to use to say it, you're an employee of the school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore, but then that's going to have to go to

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<v Speaker 2>I got no problem. Everybody at the ballpark is wearing

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<v Speaker 2>never got a penny for that, That's right, And that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it all boils down to, or we should

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<v Speaker 2>have got something. Had Ed O'Banion got something, he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>assuit EA Sports and the NCAA for using his name

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<v Speaker 2>on whatever the basketball game was called ten years or

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<v Speaker 1>Ago, and we wouldn't be having this conversation. That's what's

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<v Speaker 3>To expand on that point, I can also see why

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<v Speaker 3>they can because of the reason of healthcare. Jeff, if

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<v Speaker 3>time at the university, Because I feel like there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, that's something you have to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't too long ago they said you could insure yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>example of that. Remember George was a first round draft

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<v Speaker 2>pick of the Giants. He got hurt playing for the

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<v Speaker 2>Giants in his rookie year and that was it. He

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<v Speaker 2>same thing Bo Jackson had, and you know his career

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<v Speaker 2>was cut short after one year. So I see where

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<v Speaker 2>you're going with that billion. And yeah, here's the other

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<v Speaker 2>side to that too. How many of these kids who

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<v Speaker 2>are getting one hundred thousand dollars, fifty thousand dollars, two hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred thousand dollars know anything about this three letter

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<v Speaker 2>What happens on April Fifteen's right? You know, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I made one hundred thousand dollars. I already bought two

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<v Speaker 2>cars in a house. Well, no, you actually make what

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<v Speaker 3>So that's not taking money from me in the entire

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<v Speaker 3>right too.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And we're going to talk, as I said, about

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<v Speaker 1>basketball a little bit later. But we're here. We picked

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<v Speaker 1>pull it back to the quarterbacks, which you brought up. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>due respect to Murray State, why not start Gavin Whimsy

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. If I was him, I would say, look, just

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<v Speaker 2>game from the tub. I want you, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be healthy to play Texas because look, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>get down to the brass tax here with him. Is

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<v Speaker 2>he going to be a Wildcat next year or is

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<v Speaker 2>he going to go somewhere else? And if he's going

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else, the book on him right now is if

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<v Speaker 2>you're another really good school. He hasn't really proven much

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<v Speaker 2>to me. He's he's shown some flashes of having an

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<v Speaker 2>arm and and and having but again, how much of

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<v Speaker 2>it's the offensive line? How much of it is is

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<v Speaker 2>him playing at a small high school and not really

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<v Speaker 2>getting the reps uh that that that big time quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>get it at at you know, when you're playing at

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<v Speaker 2>these factories for for football players, AMG academies and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Well he didn't do that. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>played at a single a school in Georgia. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be really interesting to see how he progresses in

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<v Speaker 2>those finals. Look, whoever the quarterback is after Saturday has

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<v Speaker 2>got two monumental games in front of them. Texas is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the SEC game of the week at

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<v Speaker 2>Texas three point thirty in Texas Stadium, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>next week you're going to have a Louisville team that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be on the cusp of making if they beat they

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<v Speaker 2>have Pitt and Syracuse. Yea, they should probably win both

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<v Speaker 2>of those. If they do, they're on the precipice of

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<v Speaker 2>playing in the Bowl championship.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, so true.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it's some big, big games in

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<v Speaker 1>Future, and likely you need both if you're Kentucky to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a ball game. So college football has taken

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<v Speaker 1>some interesting turns over the last couple of weeks. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about that with Jeppecorral at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the hour, we'll shift to basketball. Dick Gabriel, Billy Rutledge

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<v Speaker 1>more to come on the state wide BBI from Pikeville

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<v Speaker 1>Woe Sider Dick Gabriel, Billy rutleds here in the studio,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeppecorrel on the celebrity hotline eron Girl Sewn already in

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<v Speaker 1>hear it on most of these same stations, and we

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking football, of course, with Jeff and Billy and

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<v Speaker 1>the way the SEC is settling in now. Jeff, I

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<v Speaker 1>just read somebody today said they think somebody on one

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<v Speaker 1>for a national title. I mean, you and I worked

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<v Speaker 1>that game down there. Billy watched it and listen to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course Kentucky played its best game.

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<v Speaker 2>In the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Hearing myself, but you got to give Old Miss credit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's one games when it's had to it,

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<v Speaker 1>it looked good over the weekend. I think that might

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>The Old Miss slacking of Georgia. Did you see that coming? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I never didn't. That is uh. To me, that was

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<v Speaker 2>the most surprising outcome I think of the weekend Miami losing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're a one man show. I think cam

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<v Speaker 2>wore you really, really good, and obviously he's probably the

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<v Speaker 2>he's the number one guy for the Heisman right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, I mean Georgia they had this is this

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia has not been out of the top ten since

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<v Speaker 1>How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>That that is crazy? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned cam Ward as a Heisman contender. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about another one, Travis Hunter. How rare and

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<v Speaker 3>unique is it for a guy to play both ways

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<v Speaker 3>like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, Well, you know it's Uh, he's just a book

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<v Speaker 2>a phenomenal athlete, I guess the last one to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean at that level, I can't even remember. I

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<v Speaker 2>know Dion played a couple of times, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>was punt returns and sometimes they put him in a receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, just for the heck of it. But to

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<v Speaker 2>actually play a game on both sides, do you know, Dick,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even think of that. There was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a kid who played for one of the

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<v Speaker 1>mid majors, and I can't recall and even got to

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<v Speaker 1>look him from the NFL, but not at a high profile,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, top twenty five program like that. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remember, Jeff, is this a.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy that ranged?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a guy who came with Dion? Was he

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<v Speaker 1>at Jackson State or did he inherit him or okay,

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<v Speaker 1>see that, To me, he was he was used out

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<v Speaker 1>of necessity at Jackson State, although I think Dion probably

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<v Speaker 1>saw his ability and saw himself in that kid's ability

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<v Speaker 1>and thought he can handle it. But to me, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can speak to this having done this, having

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<v Speaker 1>at least, you know, been on the sidelines and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>guys out there taking the punishment the number of plays

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<v Speaker 1>this kid racks up every game. That's what gets me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a sometime player. He's out there every play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's amazing. And when remember he was the

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<v Speaker 2>first five star recruit top I think he was top

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<v Speaker 2>ten actually recruit in the country and he and he

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<v Speaker 2>went to Jackson's and people were like what yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was the biggest splash ever for a

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<v Speaker 2>school of that size, and it, you know, put him

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<v Speaker 2>on TV. Uh. You know, it helps to have Dian

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<v Speaker 2>as a coach, but to get somebody like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to come to your school was just amazing. So he

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<v Speaker 2>has pedigree behind him. He's a sensational player. And the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that does is crazy. It's just what you said,

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<v Speaker 2>The pounding that that guy takes every single play and

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<v Speaker 2>is just simply remarkable that he's able to hang in

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<v Speaker 2>almost like all American on both sides. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, speaking of a freak of nature like that, who

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<v Speaker 3>would you say when you played at Kentucky was a

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<v Speaker 3>freak of nature?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a name.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the guy that was a freak because he he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't he played around in the weight room instead of lifting,

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<v Speaker 2>and he just went and then he never he never.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to have to run when you came back.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to run sixteen forties within three tenths of

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<v Speaker 2>a second of your So if you were a four

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<v Speaker 2>or five forty, which I was, you had to run

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen forties under four eight or under man okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>you were un him. In sets of four. You ran four,

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<v Speaker 2>then you got like a thirty second break you ran

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<v Speaker 2>for then you got a minute break, then you got four,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you had to run a four to forty,

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<v Speaker 2>that under and the guy and then you you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty five. How many times could you bench press it?

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<v Speaker 2>And he did right, you know, count twelve times. Paul Calhoun, No,

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<v Speaker 2>he was ridiculous. He ever looked out. He was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>And punt well, he was, first off, he was an

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<v Speaker 2>ll SEC defensive back, all SC punter right YEPU had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of touchdowns as a punter running. But the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that was just the freak that you're like, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>was was DERMANI, Oh yeah, I mean he was. He

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<v Speaker 2>could bench press four hundred without a problem, squat six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred clean three. But you're like, he's just unhuman. Him

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<v Speaker 2>and a guy named William Burris, they were both I remember, ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and DERMANI. The greatest story is as we go

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<v Speaker 1>to the break and you know this, Jeff DERMANI didn't

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<v Speaker 1>but then I did say he did participate in field

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<v Speaker 1>events at UK. But yeah, Steve Parker walk in the halls,

420
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<v Speaker 1>said sun report to practice this afternoon. Didn't give him

421
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<v Speaker 1>have a choice, and he did. And and Billy, when

422
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<v Speaker 1>DERMANI went into the Hall of Fame, who unveiled his bust?

423
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<v Speaker 1>That can Steve Parker? Yeah, that was so good.

424
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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you, Billy, three guys, three guys.

425
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<v Speaker 2>It was Mark Logan, Cornell, Burbiche and Germany on the

426
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<v Speaker 2>same same.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Same high school. About that brother basketball chatters. Next here

428
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<v Speaker 1>on the state Wide BBI, it is the state wide

429
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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel, Billy Retolans

430
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<v Speaker 1>here in the studio, Jeff Pikoro the UK Network is

431
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<v Speaker 1>on our Celebrity Hotline. Part of Jeff's resume now includes,

432
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<v Speaker 1>of course sports director WEDTVQ here in Lexington, so he

433
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<v Speaker 1>covers all sports now just you, not just UK football.

434
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<v Speaker 1>And Jeff, you grew up for the most party all

435
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<v Speaker 1>over the country. You kind of hopscotched around. I still

436
00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.039
<v Speaker 1>think that your dad was a spy. You tell me

437
00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:22.759
<v Speaker 1>he was in academics, but you moved around so much. Anyway.

438
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<v Speaker 1>You've covered this Kentucky basketball team so far. I don't

439
00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:30.720
<v Speaker 1>know about you, but I really, I mean, you care

440
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<v Speaker 1>because you want the home team to win. Is better

441
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<v Speaker 1>for business, better for ratings. Everybody's happy, But I just

442
00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:39.279
<v Speaker 1>want to see what they do. You know what I

443
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<v Speaker 1>mean against the Duke team that it's got great talent

444
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<v Speaker 1>but really young. And this is a Kentucky team for

445
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<v Speaker 1>the gray beards. If I may use an a dated expression,

446
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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just I have not been so curious about

447
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<v Speaker 1>a game, Jeff in years.

448
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<v Speaker 2>I kind of agree with you. You know, out of the

449
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<v Speaker 2>deal they have the Superstar and Cooper flag right, and

450
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<v Speaker 2>how does how is that is? That Cooper flag. Is

451
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<v Speaker 2>that his name?

452
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, that's it.

453
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. How does how does Kentucky control him? How does

454
00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 2>he respond playing in a game like this, the first

455
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<v Speaker 2>you know, huge game since uh, you know the youngster

456
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<v Speaker 2>got to Duke and there's gonna be real interesting to see. Yeah.

457
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just looking forward to playing finally against some elite athletes.

458
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<v Speaker 2>How does that offense that Pope runs transfer to that

459
00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:37.799
<v Speaker 2>to the to those you know, guys that can run

460
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<v Speaker 2>and jump just like your guys can.

461
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<v Speaker 3>Uh, Jeff, do you think part of the fun about

462
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<v Speaker 3>this team is that they don't have the crushing expectations

463
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<v Speaker 3>that I feel like every Caliperi team had after twenty fifteen.

464
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<v Speaker 2>That and the fact that it doesn't look like they

465
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<v Speaker 2>have the enormous egos of the players or the co

466
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<v Speaker 2>coach for that matter, and that, you know, the difference building.

467
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<v Speaker 2>And I talk about this all the time with Dick

468
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<v Speaker 2>and with in other sports that I do. They play

469
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<v Speaker 2>with a smile on their face. They're enjoying the process,

470
00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 2>they enjoyed the game, they enjoyed their teammates. Too many

471
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<v Speaker 2>times when you go out there, you gotta remember this

472
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 2>is college football, college basketball, college baseball and Dick, you know,

473
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.720
<v Speaker 2>doing the baseball games. How many games do you go to?

474
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<v Speaker 2>And it's the false the falseness of the guys on

475
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<v Speaker 2>the bench trying to pick each other up. It wasn't

476
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 2>this year in baseball, wasn't like these guys played with

477
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<v Speaker 2>a smile on our face, took them to the World Series. Right,

478
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:42.039
<v Speaker 2>you've got to enjoy it. You're still a kid. That's

479
00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.960
<v Speaker 2>it's quasi amateur sport and you should be having fun

480
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<v Speaker 2>out there, and this basketball team does.

481
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<v Speaker 1>Jeff was one of several media members from here in

482
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<v Speaker 1>town who made it out to om Ah uncovered the

483
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<v Speaker 1>World Series. You were like me, you weren't going to

484
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<v Speaker 1>miss that? I know? And no, and you and I

485
00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:59.599
<v Speaker 1>hung out and how many times did we look at

486
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<v Speaker 1>each other? How cool is this? So for us a

487
00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:05.079
<v Speaker 1>couple of old guys, Imagine what that was like for

488
00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:07.599
<v Speaker 1>the players. And I remember the day after they won

489
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>the SEC championship. Of course they lost the next game

490
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 1>to Bandy, but the morning of the game, we're in

491
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<v Speaker 1>the dugout and we were talking about going to Omaha

492
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:21.839
<v Speaker 1>and Grant Smith hurt us and he said, I need

493
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that more than I can breathe so you know, watching

494
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 1>that team and again sans Egos got you know, great chemistry,

495
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.799
<v Speaker 1>and again credit Nick Benjeone for putting that team together

496
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<v Speaker 1>using recruiting and the portal and now getting back to basketball.

497
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<v Speaker 1>It's early, but the job that Mark Pope has done,

498
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<v Speaker 1>Jeff and cobbling this team together like a puzzle, you know,

499
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<v Speaker 1>finding the right pieces. They're still figuring things out. But

500
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<v Speaker 1>it's fun to watch, isn't it.

501
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And I think he just made a great point

502
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<v Speaker 2>here cobbling the team together. He didn't go out and

503
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<v Speaker 2>get just ten, eleven, twelve, five star guys. He got

504
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:07.599
<v Speaker 2>guys that fit what he was trying to do, right.

505
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.400
<v Speaker 2>He's first first couple of guys he got were defense,

506
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:13.359
<v Speaker 2>and we're all going, what is this? Remember the first

507
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<v Speaker 2>three guys, he finds a really good defensive players, one

508
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:17.920
<v Speaker 2>of them a three time defensive player of the year

509
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:20.720
<v Speaker 2>in a conference, and we're like wow. And then it

510
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:22.559
<v Speaker 2>was a piece here, a piece there. A six to

511
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>seven shooting guard, right, you know, Kobe Brea and he's

512
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:30.079
<v Speaker 2>becoming a dagger man. I knew this kid was just

513
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.799
<v Speaker 2>a awesome player at Dayton, but he put together a

514
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.319
<v Speaker 2>team that he saw this guy can play with this guy,

515
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 2>these three guys, this two guys here, and now you

516
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<v Speaker 2>look at him and he's he's enjoying the fruits of

517
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.160
<v Speaker 2>his labor. And this team, you know, we're gonna see,

518
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:49.039
<v Speaker 2>like I said, tomorrow night is going to be a

519
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:52.680
<v Speaker 2>huge step for these guys. And but the thing is

520
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<v Speaker 2>they're all veterans. They've all been most of them have

521
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<v Speaker 2>been to the NCAA tournament. They've all played in post games,

522
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<v Speaker 2>and they play in huge games. So it's not gonna

523
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<v Speaker 2>be that that overwhelming to them.

524
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<v Speaker 3>Is Jeff acorro for or against neutral site games like

525
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<v Speaker 3>the Champions Classic, you know what.

526
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<v Speaker 2>Really, it's it's interesting you ask that because I feel

527
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<v Speaker 2>for the the season ticket holder who says, well, why

528
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:25.440
<v Speaker 2>can't we get Duke here? You know? And the simple

529
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<v Speaker 2>question is Duke doesn't want to play here and Kentucky

530
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to play at Cameron, you know, so it's

531
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<v Speaker 2>probably not going to happen. Now, they made it happen

532
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>with Gonzaga, and that's been a really cool thing. It's

533
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.279
<v Speaker 2>been pretty one sided, but it's been a lot of fun,

534
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, to see to see that. But you just

535
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>see more and more again it's money. How much do

536
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>they get paid to go to Atlanta? That's you know.

537
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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know what that answer is, but

538
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I've got to believe it's a ton of money for

539
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 2>those four teams.

540
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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jeff, let me, let me toss this out at you.

541
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<v Speaker 1>And people don't realize, but when Jeff was working up

542
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<v Speaker 1>in Northern Kentucky working with the Reds and and things

543
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>like that, he was involved with University of Cincinnati, did

544
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Bob Huggins coaches show, and did ball games up there

545
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and all. So he had a great relationship with Huggins.

546
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about all the other college coaches you knew,

547
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:22.279
<v Speaker 1>but I truly believe that home and homes do not

548
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>happen because coaches hate the prospect of losing a game.

549
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>You put a home and home with a Duke or

550
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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina or a Kansas on your schedule, and

551
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 1>you look at that game and you say, man, I

552
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know we're going to get that one. Coaches hate

553
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the loves and fans pretend like they love them, but

554
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:46.119
<v Speaker 1>then they expect you to win every game. You know,

555
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>and coaches feel that. I mean part of that I

556
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 1>think is is because coaches won't do it. Part of

557
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 1>that is because they know how the fans are going

558
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 1>to react. And that's unfortunate because when you grew up,

559
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.359
<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky Indiana game was big. Yeah, and you know,

560
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:03.519
<v Speaker 1>obviously Louisville game is I hope sticks around. You know,

561
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about football, but does that make sense?

562
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 1>You know about about home and homes because uh, every

563
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>every network in America would line up for Duke and

564
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Rupp Arena or Kentucky and Cameron.

565
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<v Speaker 2>Well. For the longest time, Ohio State would not play

566
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati football because they said, we have everything to lose

567
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.079
<v Speaker 2>and nothing to gain. And it's kind of like Kentucky Louisville.

568
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:31.559
<v Speaker 2>If you're if you're the coaches, you're like, we got

569
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:33.039
<v Speaker 2>to have this game. And then as soon as the

570
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.880
<v Speaker 2>camera's off, they go, I can't stand this game. We

571
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<v Speaker 2>cannot you know what I mean. Because then the other

572
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>thing was they never played the teams in the state

573
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 2>because they didn't if somehow, yeah, if somehow Eastern or

574
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Morehead beat Kentucky Western, did you imagine Western Kentucky did? So?

575
00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, those they're tough games, man.

576
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jeff. Over the weekend we heard about the Auburn

577
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 3>basketball team and a little horse play in the airplane

578
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 3>causing the plane to turn around. They left the guys

579
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.720
<v Speaker 3>at in Auburn and then went and still beat Houston

580
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 3>the next day. My question is, did you ever have

581
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:20.680
<v Speaker 3>any scuffles with teammates in the travel to and from games?

582
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Never traveling? No, that's that's crazy. No. I mean guys

583
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>fought all the time in the dorm and stuff. I

584
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>mean you get all those athletes and back when when

585
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I would say, we had to live in Kerwin one,

586
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>So we lived in you know, everybody, all the players,

587
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't matter if you were Bill Ranstell or Joker Phillips

588
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>or me or or.

589
00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 1>If your freshman June. Yeah, I mean freshman through SI

590
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you all had to live in the dorm.

591
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<v Speaker 2>Right, wow, Billy, you ready for this?

592
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

593
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.680
<v Speaker 2>We there were no female visitation in our They couldn't

594
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 2>go upstairs to that they could come in and go

595
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 2>down series which was the wreck. You know, they had

596
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.119
<v Speaker 2>TVs and stuff like that. Our girlfriend, my mother couldn't

597
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 2>go to my room even in the off season.

598
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Huh.

599
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 2>How about that. That's how strict Clavern was. We couldn't

600
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>have a girl. You know, a girlfriend, wife, whatever, No,

601
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>not happening.

602
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>What was the Cursey rule? Where? What were the Cursey rules?

603
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Beyond time? Yeah, there was three beyond time, don't get

604
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 2>your butt in trouble and uh like past your classes?

605
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:36.160
<v Speaker 2>That is it?

606
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? But could freshmen live off campus?

607
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Freshmen had to live at Hagen Hall, That's what I thought,

608
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.960
<v Speaker 2>which was the freshman dorm, and then you moved into

609
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Most of us lived in Kerwin one. Now you know,

610
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 2>we got to remember we didn't have any money. Nobody

611
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>had any money. So you're staying in the dorm because

612
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>they paid for that.

613
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<v Speaker 1>One of the great stories that Jeff told me, and

614
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we can repeated on the air, was

615
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<v Speaker 1>the day in Hagen Hall cafeteria player X attack player

616
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<v Speaker 1>why with a Christmas tree? But we'll tell you that

617
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<v Speaker 1>story off the Christmas tree. We'll tell you that story

618
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<v Speaker 1>off the air belly because it's a family radio station.

619
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<v Speaker 1>Back to Basketball.

620
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<v Speaker 2>Tree.

621
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<v Speaker 1>He'll he'll pull it all together for you. Trust me.

622
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<v Speaker 1>We've talked on this show and others about the Popovich

623
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:33.039
<v Speaker 1>drill that the Wildcats running practice, and fans have heard

624
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot about it already. Where it's three on two

625
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.279
<v Speaker 1>in both directions. Sometimes a third player come in, but

626
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the ball is in your hands for less than half

627
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a second and by the time when you get it,

628
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<v Speaker 1>you've got to already know where you're going with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really fun now, Jeff, to see this team

630
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<v Speaker 1>when it is able to fast break. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>the ball movement. I heard Cameron talking to Darren Hendrick

632
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<v Speaker 1>about it. The ball movement on this team. That's one

633
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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons it's so good because if you recall

634
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<v Speaker 1>under previous management with young players freshmen, he would say,

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<v Speaker 1>what would he say, Billy, the ball would get stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't don't stop the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but he would That was a term he used, right,

638
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.039
<v Speaker 1>the ball get it would get stuck and you'd see

639
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>somebody because he didn't know either he didn't know where

640
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<v Speaker 1>to go with the ball or the targets he was

641
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>looking for were in the wrong place. And in all fairness,

642
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<v Speaker 1>that ain't gonna happen with a team full of seniors, right.

643
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<v Speaker 2>Right. You know, it's interesting because both coaches men's and

644
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 2>women's run those drills and it pays off of the

645
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>games you've set it. You know, at the score is

646
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<v Speaker 2>table with me in the women's game so far. Their

647
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<v Speaker 2>ball movement is fantastic. And they run those drills too,

648
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the three on twos and two and then two on

649
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 2>threes and yeah, and they do it where you're not

650
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<v Speaker 2>allowed to dribble, where you've got to move down the

651
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<v Speaker 2>court and you have to pass without dribbling and make

652
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<v Speaker 2>a basket. So how hard is that?

653
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? That is great?

654
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.519
<v Speaker 3>Uh, Jeff Kobe Brya was rated the best shooter in

655
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<v Speaker 3>college basketball coming out of the portal this last year

656
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<v Speaker 3>and he is not starting for Kentucky. Do we have

657
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<v Speaker 3>another read and Rob situation with Kerr and Kobe or

658
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<v Speaker 3>do you think this will work in the self out

659
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:19.079
<v Speaker 3>much more than it did last year?

660
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think. I think that you have to

661
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<v Speaker 2>have guys that understand their role and understand and are

662
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 2>not bigger than the team. And I don't think this

663
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<v Speaker 2>is anything against him. I think that they are going

664
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<v Speaker 2>to be games they'll probably start, But it doesn't bother him.

665
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<v Speaker 2>He was he came off the beds, I want to say,

666
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<v Speaker 2>his first two years at Dayton he was like six

667
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<v Speaker 2>Man of the Year, that's right, So he's used to

668
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<v Speaker 2>doing that. So I don't think it bothers him as

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<v Speaker 2>much as it will. And again he's I don't say

670
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<v Speaker 2>this to knock him because he's a you know, so fantastic,

671
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<v Speaker 2>but he's not. And I'm not knocking to get I

672
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>am knocking the guys before. He's not a five star

673
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<v Speaker 2>guy who expects to be. I need to start. I

674
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:13.559
<v Speaker 2>need to put this many minutes. Then I need to

675
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>get this many touches. That's one thing that Mark steered

676
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<v Speaker 2>away from. And all these guys are high character and

677
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>guys that that did along. And again, know you're you know,

678
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<v Speaker 2>if you want to just say it, know your role

679
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<v Speaker 2>within that offense.

680
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<v Speaker 1>A couple of minutes left, But Jeff Picoro, we're talking

681
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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky basketball, of course, and Jeff just referred to the

682
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<v Speaker 1>UK women Jeff calls Kentucky women's basketball and sec. Plus

683
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<v Speaker 1>you and Christy, you've already had a couple of games

684
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<v Speaker 1>and you mentioned ball Megan.

685
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

686
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<v Speaker 1>Uh, well, let's face it, the first couple of opponents

687
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>weren't exactly uh, you know, the kind of team that

688
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 1>expected top Teck Kentucky. But what I thought was interesting,

689
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<v Speaker 1>Jeff was that after both games, both players and Kenny

690
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<v Speaker 1>Brooks talk about it. Well, they still have so much

691
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:06.320
<v Speaker 1>work to do with on court communication and you've gone

692
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<v Speaker 1>to more shoot arounds and practices than I have. But

693
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<v Speaker 1>that kind of surprised me because it sure looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they know what they're doing in terms of communicating with

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<v Speaker 1>one another. Does that surprise you to hear that?

696
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<v Speaker 2>No? I think it's because this you got to remember.

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<v Speaker 2>And he even said this he forgot the day before.

698
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<v Speaker 2>He's like, okay, well we so the game day, we're

699
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<v Speaker 2>gonna do this, this and this, and the girls there

700
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<v Speaker 2>were two girls that knew what he was talking about.

701
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<v Speaker 2>He went, okay, back up, here's what we do. You know,

702
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.239
<v Speaker 2>because they just didn't know that they have done it before.

703
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<v Speaker 2>And and he said, Georgia was good enough to say, coach,

704
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:49.159
<v Speaker 2>we got to do this, and then we do this

705
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, oh yeah, because you know the same

706
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<v Speaker 2>with the guys. These are these are players who haven't

707
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 2>played together ever before. Now he brought two girls with him,

708
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.639
<v Speaker 2>but look at the team that Mark Pope has. None

709
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 2>of those guys played together before this year. So it's

710
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 2>a learning process for them. It's going to take time. Uh,

711
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 2>they're still getting to know each other on both teams

712
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:19.159
<v Speaker 2>on tendencies, things like that, where's your hot spot? Uh,

713
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:21.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, where do you like to be? Where? How

714
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.519
<v Speaker 2>do you like to receive the ball? Those are all

715
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:26.480
<v Speaker 2>very important. You know, do you like a bounce pass?

716
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Do you like a truspass? Right? You know? And how

717
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:30.920
<v Speaker 2>do you where do you want? You want to be

718
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 2>stepping forward when you get that pass? Do you want

719
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.440
<v Speaker 2>to come off the screen? They're all learning there, they're

720
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.480
<v Speaker 2>still learning all. That's pretty cool actually to see the growth.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, Kentucky's expectations really want to notch up. When Georgia

722
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<v Speaker 3>Amore announced she was joining Kentucky, do you have do

723
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<v Speaker 3>you have a player comp for her?

724
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<v Speaker 2>Jeff? Wow? Wow, you don't know who this is. But PJ.

725
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<v Speaker 2>Hedges will remember her. She was on some of the

726
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>great teams that knocked off. They beat an undefeated Old

727
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Dominion team. They She played with Valerie Still and Lisa Collins. Yeah,

728
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:16.519
<v Speaker 2>they were fantastic, but Patty Joe just directed everything. She

729
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>She was the one of the greatest point guard.

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever And how about Stacey.

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<v Speaker 2>Reid, Yeah, another one that comes to mind. But the

732
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<v Speaker 2>thing that kills me about is Amore is she's like

733
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<v Speaker 2>literally because some people they give him an answer to

734
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<v Speaker 2>or you know, she's literally five four or five five.

735
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<v Speaker 2>She's she is, she's vertically challenged. But it doesn't but

736
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<v Speaker 2>not on the court. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to PJ the othernight. She really likes George.

738
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<v Speaker 1>I saw her at one of the games and you know,

739
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:53.559
<v Speaker 1>but Stacey was not a towering figure either. But you

740
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>can play big. If you play smart, you're playing big,

741
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<v Speaker 1>So that works. Yepkora. Listen for him as a Ucats

742
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>take on Murray State. He'll be alongside Tom Leech up

743
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:05.199
<v Speaker 1>in the press box. I'll be down on the field

744
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 1>as the Wildcats take on the Racers and Watford Jeff

745
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.119
<v Speaker 1>on WTVQ each night.

746
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you sir, Thanks guys talking next.

747
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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Jeff, and by the way, don't miss the Wildcat

748
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:20.519
<v Speaker 1>Whip every Thursday on social media on UK Sports Network's

749
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Twitter feed, in my Facebook page. We're back in just

750
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<v Speaker 1>a minute to wrap this up here on the State

751
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<v Speaker 1>ye BBI. Thanks again to Jefpichoor for joining us and

752
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 1>filling in for a couple of extra segments with Aaron

753
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Gershan on the road. He'll be covering those Duke Blue levels.

754
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>You'll hear it, right here on most of these stations.

755
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Will you be disappointed? Will you be angry? Will you

756
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>be calling for Mark Pope's head? If Duke beats Kentucky,

757
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.559
<v Speaker 1>will you be calling for the coach to be punished? No,

758
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:46.079
<v Speaker 1>not yet.

759
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<v Speaker 3>We're We're still on our honeymoon, all right. But the answer,

760
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.079
<v Speaker 3>is there a reason why Kentucky is always the second

761
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.519
<v Speaker 3>game in the Champions Class? Things I'd love to be

762
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:57.760
<v Speaker 3>done by, you know, nine o'clock.

763
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Sadly they've not started scheduling around your personal life.

764
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<v Speaker 3>So Kentucky's the show, that's what you're telling, Yes, sir,

765
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah makes sense.

766
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<v Speaker 1>Well you think about it because on the West coast

767
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and working your way east, you've got better ratings opportunities. Yeah,

768
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're the bigger names, you know it is.

769
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<v Speaker 1>I can't even I can't even remember what the first

770
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>game is. I've heard it on the radio.

771
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:29.159
<v Speaker 3>Michigan State and somebody who you don't even know were

772
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:31.400
<v Speaker 3>I'll just wait for that game to end to see

773
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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to see Cooper flag Dick. I. You know,

774
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:40.119
<v Speaker 3>he's kind of been a very hyped prospect already, maybe.

775
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:41.079
<v Speaker 1>A couple of years ago.

776
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:44.159
<v Speaker 3>In the social media age. He is just he blows

777
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:46.639
<v Speaker 3>people away. So I'm looking forward to seeing how Kentucky

778
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 3>guards him. Maybe if that's a Mari Williams early on,

779
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 3>maybe if that's somebody else, but uh.

780
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Zion Williamson used to play in the NBA. He used

781
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>to can't stay healthy. But that big body man throwing

782
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 1>it around like that. Yeah, man. Anyway, I just think

783
00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 1>that Kentucky's going to have an obvious advantage in that

784
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>none of these guys on the Kentucky team has ever

785
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>been through an event like this. I mean, they've played

786
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in NCAA tournaments, but this is the marquee matchup this,

787
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's you know what they're in for to

788
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 1>be on exactly literally and figuratively. But I do believe

789
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:30.360
<v Speaker 1>they have the advantage of all those years. You know,

790
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>once they maybe the first TV timeout is how long

791
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>it takes them to settle in. Maybe not. That's that's

792
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 1>what we don't know about this team, But I do

793
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:42.079
<v Speaker 1>think that's a big advantage Billy, in that they know

794
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>each other and coach. Both teams know each other, but

795
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.760
<v Speaker 1>they know their own games so much better I think

796
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>than Duke does.

797
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Instead of trying to figure it out for the first

798
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.159
<v Speaker 3>few months of the season to get your best play

799
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<v Speaker 3>in February or March. Maybe you're seeing them peak a

800
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 3>little early, or they are playing getting to that point quicker.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think there's a lot of truth in

802
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<v Speaker 3>what you're saying. I do also think of a guy

803
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 3>like Tyrese Maxey, who just stole the show at the

804
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 3>Champions Classic a couple of years ago. Who's going to

805
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<v Speaker 3>be the player for that this year? Is kerk krisa

806
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 3>who's already talking trash to Cooper flag uh and you know,

807
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:18.679
<v Speaker 3>wearing seventy seven with his first name on the back

808
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.320
<v Speaker 3>of his jersey. I mean, he's over under zero point

809
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:24.199
<v Speaker 3>five technicals in this game dig because I think if

810
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:26.159
<v Speaker 3>that was a bet on DraftKings, I would take the over.

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00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Is he a guy known for drawing technical Oh? Come on,

812
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>that's that's gotta be. That's gotta be. I'm I know

813
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>he mixed it up with Luca Donson. Yeah, but I don't.

814
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm serious.

815
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<v Speaker 3>Well, Mark Pope is has you know, added to that hype.

816
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:43.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, he has introduced Kerr as the guy that

817
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<v Speaker 3>other teams will hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he trash talk. Yeah yeah, no, but that

819
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily mean technical. Oh well, I asked my question.

820
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear the hear about the trash talking,

821
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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't have to get a technical foul.

822
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's only a matter of time. Maybe

823
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.760
<v Speaker 3>he tries to set the tone early doing well.

824
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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope ever get a technical foul? No, No, I

825
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.639
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. I wonder if he had one at BYU.

826
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<v Speaker 1>That's a good thing to look. We should check. We

827
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<v Speaker 1>should check on that, do some research. All right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it for now. As I said, Kentucky duke

829
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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night. You've also got women's basketball tomorrow night, so

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<v Speaker 1>check your local listing because it's a great night for

831
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky basketball. That's it. Good night from Lexington.