WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:13.160 Well Whiskey coming day don't From power Line blog dot 2 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:18.000 com and produced by Ricochet dot Com. This is the 3 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:23.399 Three Whiskey Happy Hour with your bartenders Steve Hayward, John 4 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:28.879 You and power Lines International Woman of Mystery Lucretia. 5 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:34.960 Gott A giving Wilon where you're in loud. 6 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:39.240 Down and lod Welcome everybody to a special Turkey Day 7 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:43.840 edition of the Three Whiskey Happy Hour, where, if you 8 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:48.320 haven't already fallen asleep by watching three terrible NFL games 9 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:54.039 yesterday while eating turkey and red wine guaranteed to make 10 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:58.000 even the Philadelphia Eagles look like a boring team, put 11 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:00.920 you to bed. We have for you now now a 12 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:04.760 special out of order holiday episode of the Three Whiskey 13 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:08.319 Happy Hour, And as usual, I'm joined by my co 14 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:12.959 host Steve Hayward, who is if you can't see him, 15 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:14.840 and I hope he posts a photo of this has 16 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:19.280 some deliciously inviting landscape behind him. 17 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:21.879 Where are you, Steve? I am still in Italy. I 18 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:24.079 didn't come home like you guys did. I'm in Positano 19 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:28.280 on the Amalfi Coast, where I've spent today. Mostly I've 20 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:30.719 spent the day outside of my balcony writing until it 21 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:32.239 started raining. But it's great. 22 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:35.879 I hope people are following Steve's feet on Facebook, where 23 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:39.879 he's been posting pictures of the Italian countryside and food 24 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:44.159 and Lucretia, where are you. 25 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.640 I'm home. I am happy to be home. No. I 26 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:53.519 had a lovely time in Italy, especially with our friends, 27 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:56.719 the Baron and the Baroness. I got to spend some 28 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:59.560 quality time with the Baron after the poor Baroness had 29 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:02.319 to go to Japan, which was really sad. But what 30 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:07.120 a lovely man he is. And I'm just I'm sort 31 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:09.840 of still warm and basking in the fun of it all. 32 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:13.439 But I'm back to the usual Lucretia grind, cooking, cleaning, 33 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:17.360 playing with the cat, you know, playing with the dog, 34 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:21.159 that sort of thing. So life is boring again. 35 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:25.000 But I have to say listeners that Lucretia was in 36 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:28.400 an uncommonly good mood in Italy, because if you looked 37 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:32.520 at the Steve's substack, there's a photo of Lucretia and 38 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:36.039 I at a very high window in a castle in Kante. 39 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:37.560 She's not trying to throw me out. 40 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.560 Well, that's what commenter said, is it's dangerous for you 41 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:42.759 John to be standing so close to Lucretia near an 42 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:44.919 open window. I guess he thinks you're a clumsy Russian 43 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:45.360 or something. 44 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:50.240 No, she thinks she equates he obviously she or she 45 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:54.000 obviously creates Lrisha. Lucretia with the effectiveness of the KGB 46 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:55.439 just something. 47 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:56.039 I never doubted. 48 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:03.439 Okay, so well, I'm back in the good old United States. 49 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:07.560 But we did have a wonderful trip talking about natural rights, 50 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.080 common good, constitutionalism, and the elections all in Italy. And 51 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:14.919 we're going to talk about our reflections on the election, 52 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:18.639 which I think are actually enhanced by being in another 53 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:22.000 country and seeing it from the outsider's perspective and trying 54 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.919 to explain to them what happened in the November election. 55 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:28.479 But before we get to that, let's just talk. Let's 56 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.879 mark a little bit that we're here on Thanksgiving weekend 57 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:35.319 and start with Steve, what do you have to be 58 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:40.960 thankful for? Howard did you celebrate Thanksgiving in Italy? Points 59 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:44.120 to any listeners who know the Italian word for Turkey, 60 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:48.400 it's a kino, which makes no sense at all. I'm 61 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:51.479 sure the Turkey must have come over from Europe from 62 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:54.319 the United States. I don't think they had turkeys before 63 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:55.840 the discovery of the New World. 64 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:56.560 I'm not sure. 65 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:58.840 But anyway, Steve, did you have turkey? 66 00:03:58.919 --> 00:03:59.520 Did you drink? 67 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:01.280 You watch bad football? 68 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:05.120 What do you do? No? No, we we had some 69 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.039 pizza and some good Italian or derbs and things like that. 70 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.639 I we didn't know. That's just that's just every day 71 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:12.560 in the Hayward house. 72 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:14.560 Or why did you go two thousand miles for that? 73 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:16.839 Well not really, don't eat that much pizza at home. 74 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:20.240 Oddly enough, Well, there wasn't any turkey around that I saw, 75 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.519 or turkeno or whatever you call it. By the way, Tino, 76 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:26.839 by the way, it's one of the I mean, there's 77 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:28.920 no reason to waste more than ten seconds on this, 78 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.920 but it's one of the attacks of the left on Thanksgiving, 79 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:36.000 you know, because a colonial set colonials of oppression thing, right, 80 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:38.879 But that you know, they didn't really have turkey at 81 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.439 the first Thanksgiving in Massachusetts. It was just some wild 82 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:44.439 bird they found there, so who knows what it was. 83 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.199 But no, So I've just had Italian pluisine, and I 84 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:49.439 have to say that I like coming here. I've never 85 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:52.240 been to the Mouthy Coast, and I wanted to try the. 86 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:55.000 Other example of o. Steve Hayward is a Barbarian and 87 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:55.680 a Cretn But. 88 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:59.120 Go on, Well, it's the off season here and most 89 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.560 of the hotels are a lot of other places are 90 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.160 still open, and I'd say at least three quarters of 91 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:07.079 the restaurants are closed, in part because they're doing major 92 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:10.000 road construction and nobody can get to them. It's a 93 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:13.120 little tricky getting around. So but we're having a great time. 94 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:15.079 Yeah, that's good. 95 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.160 I'm reading about crazy football games, but I did not 96 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:20.199 see any of them. 97 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:26.800 Isn't it funny how nobody ever challenges other cultures, other 98 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:32.439 countries' longstanding traditions. So if Turkey was or wasn't at 99 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:35.560 the first Thanksgiving, does it really matter the fact that 100 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:42.439 there's this lovely American It's hard to establish traditions that 101 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:46.639 are sort of country wide nationwide, but Thanksgiving has become 102 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:50.240 one of those. And I think that every time somebody 103 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:54.199 wants to make some snarky comment about colonialism or imperialism 104 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:57.240 or you know, Native American genocide or something like that, 105 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:02.199 I just smack them. I'm tired of it, really. I mean, 106 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:06.279 Thanksgiving is an absolutely lovely tradition, and I saw some 107 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:09.639 dull article in the Washington excuse me, what's it called? 108 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:12.560 The Wall Street Journal? The Wall Street Journal the other 109 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:16.839 day about don't pretend to be grateful if you're not grateful, 110 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:20.519 because that's more harming to your soul. I think they 111 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:23.040 use the word soul. That's more. That's more harming to 112 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.680 your well being than if you're just acknowledged that you 113 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:27.040 have nothing to be grateful for. 114 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.920 Well, you know, I think in your well, I think 115 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:33.959 from a point of view of the cultural left, Europe 116 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:36.720 may be worse than America because it's holidays go back 117 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:40.800 many you know, Millennia are more right. Yeah, I mean 118 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.800 I was in I was in Rome one year, many 119 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:47.120 years ago. I think it's August fifteenth as the feast 120 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:49.920 of the Assumption, and the whole country closed down. I 121 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:51.399 mean there was nothing open. 122 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:52.720 But nobody celebrates it. 123 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:55.360 They just well, okay, yeah, well that could be right. 124 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:58.480 But the point is there are explicitly religious holidays here 125 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:00.319 and ours are sort of that typical America and mix 126 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.920 a religious and secular together, which confuses you know, our 127 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:04.839 Supreme Court. 128 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:07.879 Needless to say, I did the fun of being a 129 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:10.839 visiting professor for a semester in Italy, and it was 130 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:16.279 the best because all Roman Catholic holidays were state holidays, right, 131 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:19.639 so we got we had almost we had vacation after vacation. 132 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:23.879 I think Germany had more. Actually it was very interesting. 133 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:28.439 I think Germany has more state religious holidays. I guess 134 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:32.480 for Luther or something. I don't know. But every other 135 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.240 day you couldn't do anything because it was a federal 136 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:37.639 holiday and you had to stay home. I do want 137 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:39.959 to say something before we move off this topic about 138 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.439 my I'm going to be serious for a moment. It 139 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:48.040 is my firm belief that the most important what would 140 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:51.000 you call it, the most important virtue, I guess, is 141 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:57.040 gratitude and the absolutely beyond any anything else in the 142 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:02.120 world that someone who is grateful, shows gradude, lives with gratitude, 143 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:05.160 is happy. And I think that if I were going 144 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.800 to in two sentences define what's wrong with the left 145 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:11.720 is they're bitter and resentful and they're not grateful for 146 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:15.319 what they have. And you see that all of the time, 147 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.800 whereas the people who are happy, the people who are content, 148 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:21.279 it doesn't matter what they have or how much they have, 149 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:24.839 they're disgrateful for having it. And so that's my Thanksgiving 150 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:25.879 Day message. 151 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:27.120 Great, you're here. 152 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.839 I'm very grateful. I mean, we live if you live 153 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:32.120 in the United States. My priest likes to have this 154 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:36.039 little thing in some of his homilies, and he stands 155 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:39.000 up in front of the parish and and imagine this 156 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:41.879 long continuum of all the people in the in the world. 157 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:45.320 You can even see me doing this, But and imagine 158 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:47.919 all the people in the world. And you can look 159 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:49.559 in one direction or the other. If you look in 160 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.000 this direction, you can look at the people who have 161 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.240 more than you, who are better off than you, et cetera, 162 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.440 et cetera. If you look in the other direction, you 163 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:00.759 can see the people who who don't enjoyed the same 164 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.080 material and other blessings, freedom and so forth. And if 165 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:07.440 you live in the United States, you are in the 166 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:10.679 top half of one percent if you live in the 167 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:15.320 United States of the people who look back on everyone else. 168 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:17.960 And you know, that's just something to be also to 169 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.919 be grateful for that we live in a country with 170 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:22.519 amazing blessings. 171 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.799 Although I'll add one last contrast from over here in Italy. 172 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:29.039 It finally occurred to me driving the terrifying roads yesterday 173 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.600 to get out here on this very formidable coastline, and 174 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:34.519 also looking at the buildings I've been in and so forth. 175 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.840 If Italy had OSHA and NITSA and all other safety bureaucracies, 176 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:41.960 three quarters of this country would be shut down in 177 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.279 an instant, because you know, we're whiny, you know whats 178 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:48.000 and there's still some Roman virtue intact here. 179 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.120 Well, Allison and I were discussing the fact that you're 180 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:55.639 driving through these crazy streets that are I mean, they're 181 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:59.559 more narrow than my bathroom, right, and they've got cars 182 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:03.840 on either side of them in motorcycles and mopeds and scooters, 183 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:08.440 and they're driving these vans and people are in and 184 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:11.399 out and there's no right of travel, right of way. 185 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.320 I mean, it's just crazy. The entire time you're on 186 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:17.600 the roads, and you never see even a fender bender. 187 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:20.879 You never see an accident, you never see anybody crashing. 188 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:24.519 You never know. Steve was watching my face as we 189 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:26.679 were driving down this really narrow road. Then there's this 190 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.480 whole line of motorcycles parked and the mirror on the 191 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.080 van was like a quarter of an inch away from 192 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:38.559 these motorcycles. As we're driving down. I'm probably only going 193 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:41.960 about forty kilometers, but Still it's just you know, these 194 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:45.080 people are One thing is they don't text while they're driving. 195 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:47.879 They pay attention. You could not pay attention. 196 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:50.639 So yeah, but I still don't see how any cars 197 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:52.679 in this country have their mirror still on them. But 198 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:54.559 they do. Somehow they all do. 199 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:57.360 You don't see it. You don't see them scratched. You 200 00:10:57.399 --> 00:10:59.679 don't see in those tiny places where they make those 201 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.759 redible terms with the vans and the so forth. You 202 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.200 know how if you can go into a parking garage 203 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:08.559 in the United States and there'll be a pole you 204 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:10.919 get to push the button and that pole will just 205 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:15.679 be absolutely covered with little crashes. You can tell that that. 206 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.440 You know, literally thousands of cars ran into that pole 207 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:19.919 as someone who was driving up trying to get their 208 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.120 drinner to go to parking. None of that. In Italy. 209 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:26.639 Nobody ever hits anything. It's amazing. They don't need. 210 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.360 For those listeners who are studying to take the Italian 211 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:35.679 driver's license exam, you can stop taking notes now let's 212 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.919 get to this. Although I do want to reinforce what 213 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.279 Lucretia just said, I don't I think, at least on Thanksgiving, 214 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.200 we should appreciate despite all our nation's problems. How truly 215 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:49.879 lucky we are to live in the United States at 216 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:52.679 this time in history. As you said, if you were 217 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:55.960 to draw a graph of and my utilitarian graph of 218 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:00.559 human happiness and welfare, we would definitely be at the 219 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:03.120 tail end, all the way at the right hand side 220 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:06.039 of the X and Y axis. 221 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:08.919 I see what you did there, John, I see it. 222 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:10.360 I'm not going to take the. 223 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:16.759 Base utilitarian sentence. Is there such a thing. 224 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:20.600 That's what we're measuring? Utles? Yeah? Yeah, no. 225 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:24.720 I thought one thing we might talk about is actually 226 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:27.200 the substance of the panel that we held at the 227 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:31.039 University of Florence between in front of a packed audience 228 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.080 of Italian students and faculty. I have to say that 229 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:42.320 they were, I think, really really deeply fascinated about our elections, 230 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.039 maybe more so than their own elections. Maybe actually what 231 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:47.679 happens the United States is of such critical economic and 232 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.039 security importance to Western Europe that they should be more 233 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:54.399 interested in our elections than their own. But we had 234 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:58.720 a great panel, and I want to repeat some of 235 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:00.240 the things that were said, which I think I think 236 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:04.000 set Stephen Lucretia off and hear what they had to say. 237 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:05.320 Have you here let's hear what they have to say 238 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:10.720 about So one of the panels said that we shouldn't 239 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:15.559 make too much of the election because one it was 240 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:20.480 really really close. It's starting to look like President Trump 241 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:23.679 won by one point five percent around there between one 242 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:26.399 point less than two percent, maybe about two million votes 243 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:29.600 or three million out of about out of one hundred 244 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:34.159 and fifty million votes. So in one sense, this panel said, 245 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:37.960 we're not talking about a landslide. We're talking about actually 246 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:42.240 one of the closest margins of popular vote victory in 247 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:44.960 the last century. I think he said, out of the 248 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:49.679 forty eight last presidential elections, this was the forty seventh, 249 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:53.919 the largest smallest majority that the winner had held of 250 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:58.720 the popular vote. So this panelist said, rather, he was 251 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:03.200 worried that President Trump and Republicans would overread the election 252 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:06.480 and that they should view it as a plea for 253 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:10.759 moderation in policy, which is actually something that conservative said 254 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:14.120 about Biden right, that Biden also misinterpreted the twenty twenty election, 255 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:17.480 Revelt Celtz, and that rather than see it as a 256 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:23.000 mandate for ideological horse stable cleaning, we should just see 257 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:26.919 it as a plea for more moderate policies. Rather than 258 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:28.799 a man, and not to think of it as a 259 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:31.360 as a huge mandate of a kind that Reagan got 260 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:36.960 in eighty or eighty four. So, uh, Lucretia, how about you. 261 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:40.679 I think you were seething. I could feel the heat 262 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:42.679 from your end of the pen. I was the moderator, 263 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.840 by the way, I could see the flames emerging from 264 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:49.000 Crecia's air while this was being said. 265 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:53.720 But luckily for the call for the okay, yeah, Luckily 266 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:55.720 for the panelists, we didn't have a second round because 267 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:57.159 we ran out of time, so we don't know what 268 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:59.159 the creature was going to say in response to. 269 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:03.200 This, So those comments were actually in response to many 270 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:08.320 of the things I said originally. Excuse me, by the way, 271 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:11.960 let me just mention quickly that excuse me I had 272 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:16.080 been I had been prepared with remarks when I came in. 273 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:20.600 And then our good friend Eduardo was kind of behind 274 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:25.159 moderating this whole or organizing this whole thing, asked me 275 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:27.200 to since I was the only woman on the panel 276 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:30.320 to speak about women's issues, which you. 277 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:35.440 Know, Throught was on the panel. Steve Steve's loves to 278 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:38.759 talk about women's women's issues, and I'll come why we 279 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:40.879 don't let him talk about the clean era, because eventually 280 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:42.399 he starts talking about women's issues. 281 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:45.360 I'll come back to what I had to say about 282 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.840 women in a moment, but that's quite all right. But 283 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:53.919 it was it was me who said that we could 284 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:57.000 we could consider the electional landslide, and I stand by 285 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:00.200 that because it's not in terms of simple number. So 286 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.120 I mean, we were told that Clinton had a mandate 287 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:05.080 with forty three percent of the vote, and not a 288 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:09.080 single person on the left or the squishy middle the 289 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:12.279 right rhinos ever challenged that for even a moment. But 290 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:16.000 it's really a deeper question. It's not merely a numerical question. 291 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:20.240 I would say, first the fact that Trump won despite 292 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:30.159 every effort by the left to destroy him electorally, personally, legally, financially. 293 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:32.200 You go on and on and on, and I mean 294 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:35.039 they brought their a game to try to destroy him, 295 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:38.039 and he came out Victoria victorious, which I understand was 296 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:42.279 also an element in his victory because you know, there 297 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:43.960 are a lot of people out there who said, if 298 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:47.120 they can do that to Trump, anyway, we can go. 299 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:49.320 Lots of people have spoken about that, but you know 300 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:54.200 what I mean by that, So knowing that everything was 301 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:57.120 stacked against him. Let me one more tangent Off and 302 00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:59.240 Steve may have something to say about this, But it 303 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:03.840 came out last week that the New York Times, the 304 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:09.759 Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post were pressuring very hard 305 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:13.799 for the more accurate polls like the I don't want 306 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:16.519 to say Atlas shrug, that's not what it's called, Atlas whatever. 307 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.160 Falgar and Rasmussen, who who really are in many ways 308 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:26.519 the gold standard of for accuracy, They were being pressured 309 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:34.200 to wait their weight their samples better and then Real 310 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:38.759 Clear Politics was being pressured to weight their polls. In 311 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:43.400 other words, they were being asked to uh. Instead of 312 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:45.799 just doing what they do, which is a simple average 313 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.359 of political polls uh. They were being asked to wait 314 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.920 for Falgar and those other kinds of polls down. It 315 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:56.200 was absolutely critical to the left to maintain the fiction 316 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:59.920 that Kamala Harris had a bump, that Kamala Harris was surge, 317 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.440 and all of those things, because that was really their 318 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:06.319 only hope of convincing people that they could go to 319 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:08.799 the polls and vote for Kamala hair. So, knowing all 320 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:10.720 of that, sorry, that was a long way to get 321 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:14.519 to where we are. People are tired of what they 322 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:20.759 saw the Biden Harris administration do. They're tired of runaway 323 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:25.200 power and money spending by bureaucrats. They're tired of the 324 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:29.640 open borders. I was at of friends who lives I've 325 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:34.480 mentioned that those friends before. They're the ones who were attempted, 326 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:39.920 kidnapped by illegals and being led by a cartel. Mentioned 327 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:43.480 that a long time ago. There's a pathway. They don't 328 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:46.599 live permanently in this house. There's a pathway through their 329 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:50.960 yard where they've actually cut through a gate and put 330 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.680 their own gate, cut through a fence, putting their own 331 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:56.559 gate illegal aliens and the cartels, and put a gate 332 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.200 in that they have the lock, the key to the 333 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.640 lock on the gate. I mean, it's if you live 334 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:06.680 in the southern southeastern part of Arizona. Any I suppose 335 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:10.759 anywhere south in Arizona. You know how bad illegal immigration is. 336 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:12.640 But the rest of the country got to feel that too. 337 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:18.640 They saw the absolutely uneven handed there's probably a better 338 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.400 word for it, administration of justice. You know, a mother, 339 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:25.160 a young mother of three, goes to jail for twelve 340 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:29.079 years for protesting outside of an abortion clinic and you know, 341 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:34.440 all of the scum and the George Floyd sub human 342 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:37.720 scum never suffered a single thing for the most part. 343 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:41.000 You know, they're just tired of it. So to dismiss 344 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:47.720 this result as anything other than astounding, in my opinion, 345 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:49.680 is just to have your head in the sand. Okay, 346 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:51.119 I'm done, Steve, I talk too much. 347 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:54.519 Go ahead, well, Steve, Yeah, First of all, I think 348 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:56.920 you're right that each call it a landslide, and the 349 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.039 people want to say yeah, but on the numbers, it's 350 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.559 really not. Are miss something important? So it's true that 351 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.240 it looks like Trump will probably finish slightly below fifty 352 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:08.920 percent of the total vote cast. But of course Bill 353 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.359 Clinton never broke fifty percent. He only got forty nine 354 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.319 percent in his second election in nineteen ninety six. That's 355 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:16.640 because Pero was running again and still got five percent 356 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:18.559 of the vote or something like that. But if you 357 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:21.359 go back to Reagan in eighty Reagan only got I 358 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:24.599 think like fifty point five percent of the total popular vote. 359 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:29.440 And the reason and if you hadn't had, oh, let 360 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:32.359 me go through a few numbers. So the reason he 361 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:34.480 got four hundred and eighty nine electoral votes is the 362 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:37.920 voters were distributed more evenly way back in that election. 363 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:40.440 But on the other hand, if you hadn't had a 364 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:44.039 third party candidate run like John Anderson, Reagan might well, 365 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:45.799 or I should put it this way, Carter might well 366 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:47.759 have won four or five more states. He might well 367 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:50.559 have won New York. I think a lot of Anderson 368 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:52.920 did well in New York, and Reagan won the state narrowly. 369 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.960 I think a partner might have won Oregon. The point 370 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:58.400 is everyone called that a landslide because it was so 371 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:02.079 shocking and unexpected election. A couple are things about the 372 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:07.599 eighty election with Reagan Reagan. One, let's see Tennessee, Kentucky, Mississippi, 373 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:10.680 and Alabama by less than thirty thousand votes in each state. 374 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:13.279 It's not the red state landslide we think of those 375 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:16.200 southern states today. It was actually quite close. But he 376 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:19.319 did take them from Carter, because remember Carter sweeping the 377 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:21.480 South is the only reason he won the nineteen seventy 378 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:25.279 sixth election. And nowadays, this was the beginning of a realignment. 379 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:27.799 It was the beginning of Democratic voters were saying we 380 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.160 could vote for Republicans for president and later for other 381 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:34.400 offices as well, And so you know, it seems to 382 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:36.480 me that what is important is the vote shifts that 383 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:39.720 take place. It's one thing if Trump had only won 384 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.880 by motivating the Republican base of suburban nights and capturing 385 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:47.119 traditional Republican constituencies. But as we now know, he did 386 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.960 massively well among groups he's not supposed to do well 387 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:55.079 with Asians, Hispanics, black, Native Americans. He got a majority 388 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:58.160 of the Indian vote. To put it that way, you know, 389 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:01.480 American Indian vote, right. I guess all those land acknowledgements 390 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:05.880 didn't work, and so you know if the geography. Oh, 391 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:09.079 and the Democrats lost the most votes in terms of 392 00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:12.880 raw numbers in their strongholds in California, in New York 393 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:16.279 and Illinois, which ought to terrify them, it seems to me. 394 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:20.039 And then finally, no one thought, as Lucreatius said, that 395 00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:22.440 Trump had any hope of winning, or if he did, 396 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.920 it would be like twenty sixteen by an inside straight 397 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:28.720 with narrow victories in the electoral college, but not the 398 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:31.319 popular vote, and so that is shattered and lying on 399 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.519 the ground. So with a closely divided country like we have, 400 00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:37.279 it seems to me that the shift of this kind 401 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.039