WEBVTT 1 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:22.879 Hey there, folks. The video you're about to watch is 2 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.280 getting a little old now. I think I've made it 3 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:27.760 in the spring of twenty twenty four, but I kept 4 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:30.760 it as a Patreon only video for quite some time. 5 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:34.200 I mainly did that because this video is quite unlike 6 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:36.960 most of the others I've done. It's about a body 7 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:39.799 of research rather than an in depth analysis of a 8 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:43.320 single case. I'm sure I'll receive a little backlash from 9 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:46.799 some people, but you can't always make everyone happy. The 10 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:49.880 reason I made it was to answer questions I've consistently 11 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.640 gotten regarding Missing four point one and my opinion on it. 12 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:56.000 It's something that's been asking me so many times that 13 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:58.399 I thought it was necessary to build an in depth 14 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:02.200 answer to it. That's this video. I imagine by now 15 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:06.159 most of my subscribers will be surprised by absolutely nothing 16 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:09.079 in this but you still may find it interesting, as 17 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:12.040 it covers a lot of cases in quick succession, and 18 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:15.079 many of them I've never talked about before. I did 19 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:17.640 edit out a lot of the original intro because it 20 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:20.400 was way too long. It was like fifteen minutes of 21 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:23.120 me explaining why I made this video. I think I 22 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.640 can sum up the cuts a lot quicker by simply 23 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:28.439 saying I don't want to be pointing out anyone else's 24 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:32.319 mistakes or errors without acknowledging my own, because I've made plenty, 25 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:35.640 especially in the early days of this channel. I'll just 26 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:38.799 throw a list of mine in the description. Also, I 27 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:41.280 was a big believer in missing four on one back 28 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:43.840 when I started all this. If you've been around since 29 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:46.959 the beginning, you know that my early stuff is riddled 30 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:50.159 with bigfoot and the paranormal. It wasn't until I really 31 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:53.040 started doing in depth research on some of these missing 32 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:56.000 four on one cases that I kind of became red 33 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:58.560 pilled to the fact that they're just not as strange 34 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:01.560 or unusual as I I thought they were. There was 35 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:05.280 a gradual turn from believer to more of a skeptic, 36 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:09.960 and it was not intentional anyway. I'll stop yapping for now. 37 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:15.400 Let's get to the video. Hey there, folks, this is 38 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:18.400 a video I wasn't sure i'd ever make. But at 39 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.520 some point it almost feels unfair to you, the viewer 40 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.719 if I don't. From the very beginning of this channel, 41 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:28.120 I've gotten comments or emails asking questions about missing for 42 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:32.199 one one. Now these questions or comments have certainly evolved 43 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:35.800 over time. Nowadays it seems to manifest as why do 44 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:39.400 you bash Missing four one one. I realize that people 45 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.879 get these misconceptions because I've always kind of tiptoed around 46 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.719 the subject of Missing four one one, because I don't 47 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:47.759 want anyone who is a fan to feel like they 48 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:50.120 have to pick a side. But at a certain point, 49 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:53.719 it almost feels irresponsible to not talk about Missing four 50 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.439 one one directly because it is so many people's introduction 51 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:01.560 into the missing person genre. Give credit to Missing four 52 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:05.439 one one and David Politis for popularizing the genre of 53 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:09.479 strange missing persons cases now, just in case some viewers 54 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:12.759 have no idea what Missing for one one is. It 55 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:16.159 is essentially a body of work created by David Politis 56 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:18.719 in the form of books and movies that presents a 57 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:22.000 long list of missing persons cases that are supposed to 58 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:26.520 be mysterious, unexplainable, or maybe even paranormal. It is a 59 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:30.479 hugely popular subject with a large and dedicated fan base. 60 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.159 I was a big fan for a long time. I 61 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.039 always felt that David Politics came across as a very 62 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:40.360 sincere and trustworthy individual. The cases presented in Missing four 63 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:42.879 one one claim to be selected based on a set 64 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:46.800 of exclusionary criteria, meaning that the presence of any one 65 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:52.439 of these items mental illness, voluntary disappearance, criminal activity, animal 66 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:56.639 predation would disqualify a case from being included under the 67 00:03:56.680 --> 00:04:00.319 Missing four one one umbrella. This list is important and 68 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:03.759 we will return to it now. Generally the cases have 69 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:06.560 an air of mystery about them. And with that said, 70 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:10.439 this channel has never been about bashing Missing four one one, 71 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:13.479 and this video is not intended to do that. Either. 72 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:17.879 When you know people believe in stories that are verifiably inaccurate, 73 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:20.759 do you do nothing because the people seem to like 74 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:23.839 and enjoy and trust the source, or do you try 75 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:26.800 to show them the evidence they're not seen, even if 76 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:30.040 it's uncomfortable. I guess in this video I'm trying to 77 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:32.759 do the latter. The end goal of this video is 78 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:36.040 not to get people to stop reading, watching, or listening 79 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.000 to Missing four one one. In fact, I think you 80 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:42.759 should do those things. Get information from every source you can, 81 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:46.120 and if my point of view is considered the skeptical one, 82 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.399 I would encourage you to seek out the opposite see 83 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:52.720 whose information makes more sense to you. It's always important 84 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:55.600 to know the arguments of the other side. So if 85 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:59.079 you're wondering what I personally think about Missing four one one, 86 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:02.680 because it's a question I often get, well, my answer 87 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:05.480 is that I have a lot of concerns. These concerns 88 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.800 revolve solely around the way information is portrayed in Missing 89 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:11.759 four one one and other information that is not mentioned 90 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.639 at all. So I'll come right out and say I 91 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:17.920 don't believe in Missing four one one. What does that mean. 92 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:20.680 It means I don't believe that the long list of 93 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:25.000 cases presented in Missing four one one as having strange, paranormal, 94 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:29.720 or unexplainable elements are all legitimate. Now, there are some 95 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:33.319 genuinely strange and unexplainable cases in the Missing four one 96 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.800 one archive, but it is my contention that the vast 97 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:40.000 majority of these cases do not even meet Missing for 98 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:44.560 one one's own standards for qualifying a case. People also 99 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:48.839 ask why I don't like David Politis. The simple answer 100 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.120 is I don't like nor dislike him. I don't know him. 101 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:54.879 This video is not going to be about David Politis 102 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:57.720 as a person. It's going to be about his research. 103 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:00.360 So this is not intended to be an end datment 104 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.360 of him. So much as the information presented in his 105 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:07.680 books and movies, and criticism of research is essential for 106 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:12.000 refinement of future research into the missing person's genre. If 107 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.839 someone builds off the work I have done and learns 108 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.959 new details or develops new theories I haven't thought of, 109 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:21.000 then that is a good thing. It is refining the 110 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:25.079 understanding of whatever case that is. In this video, we 111 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.199 are going to go over a bunch of cases, some 112 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:31.240 I've previously covered and even some I haven't made videos on, 113 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:34.800 but that I've researched independently. That way, you can see 114 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.680 why I don't believe in missing for one one, and 115 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:41.079 then you can judge for yourself whether that's a reasonable 116 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:44.360 position to hold or not. And I'll also have a 117 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:46.759 public video I can just link to all the people 118 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:49.639 who ask me questions about what I think about missing 119 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:52.399 four one one. So I will walk you through the 120 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:55.959 exact same things I went through, case by case, and 121 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:57.879 you can see if you come out the other end 122 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:01.920 feeling the same, you're getting the crash course. In this video, throughout, 123 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:03.759 I'm going to do my best to show you the 124 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:06.399 sources for everything, so that you don't have to take 125 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:09.319 my word for anything. You can go look at it yourself, 126 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:12.600 which I strongly encourage you to do. Anyway, now that 127 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:15.279 we have that long winded preamble out of the way, 128 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:18.079 let's go over some missing four to one one cases 129 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:21.360 that I think shouldn't be missing four one one cases. 130 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:24.439 So one of the main issues I have with these 131 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.639 cases is that some of them seem to heavily skew 132 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:31.279 in the direction of making a case seem paranormal by 133 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:34.319 hinting at the possibility of something like a cryptid or 134 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:38.439 UFOs being involved. And to be honest, I've often felt 135 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:41.360 that bigfoot is being inferred in many of these cases, 136 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:44.439 but perhaps that's only because I was aware Politis was 137 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:48.600 a bigfoot researcher before starting Missing four one one. Let 138 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:53.079 me show you what I mean. Jackie Copeland. I covered 139 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:56.160 the case of Jackie Copeland some time ago. It was 140 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.160 an incident back in May of nineteen fifty. He was 141 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.519 a two year old boy spending the day with his 142 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:06.759 family in Pleasantville, Pennsylvania. At some point, Jackie wandered off. Now, 143 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:10.120 Jackie's father worked for an oil company and his family 144 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:13.639 was staying on land leased from the company. Once Jackie 145 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.160 was reported missing, a ton of people came in to 146 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.879 assist in the search, including many volunteers from the oil company. Fortunately, 147 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:24.360 Jackie was found quickly and returned to his family. But 148 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:26.959 the important part in the Missing four one one book 149 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.959 that I want to draw your attention to is this quote. 150 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:33.679 An article in the Logan's Port Press dated May seventeen, 151 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.279 nineteen fifty had an interview with the Copelands and heard 152 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:41.120 Jackie's rendition of what occurred during his night in the woods. 153 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:43.720 The press wanted to hear how the boy got to 154 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.480 his location in the swamp, what he had to drink 155 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:50.000 or eat, and how he kept warm. Jackie first was 156 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:53.120 asked why he left the picnic, and here is his quote. 157 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:56.679 He saw something peering at him from behind a big tree. 158 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.200 When he approached, the creature scampered into the brush. Jackie 159 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:04.799 didn't explain anything more about leaving the picnic at that point. 160 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:08.799 The article goes on to say he recounted in child 161 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.120 talk his adventure in an awful blackness, peopled by a 162 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:16.200 great throbbing giant and a tall friendly tree, and wild 163 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:20.159 animals howling in the distance, and the unfamiliar shouts of 164 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.720 strangers prowling nearby. Okay, so when you hear those excerpts, 165 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.480 what comes to mind? Obviously it's not very descriptive, but 166 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:30.879 it might evoke some kind of image in your mind. 167 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:34.200 The child sees a creature watching him that runs off 168 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:38.000 into the brush, and shortly thereafter young Jackie goes missing. 169 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:41.919 Later he encounters a great throbbing giant. It gives the 170 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.000 case an added element of something creepier paranormal. But the 171 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:48.559 paragraph I just read to you from Missing four one 172 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:53.080 one takes the newspaper article almost entirely out of context. 173 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:56.200 Let's look at the same Logan's port Press article that 174 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:04.960 politis referenced and compare the two. The search went on 175 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:08.759 all night. Then about nine o'clock, an oil field worker 176 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:11.279 dropped out of a group of searchers to go to 177 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:14.519 a nearby pump house to make some adjustments in the machinery. 178 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:17.879 He saw something peering at him from behind a big tree. 179 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:21.840 When he approached, the creature scampered into the brush. It 180 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:26.399 was a badly frightened oil smeared little Jackie. By Now 181 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:30.679 you're probably going, wait what, But that's right. The actual 182 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:35.320 newspaper reference for this story has an entirely different context, 183 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:38.840 while the Missing four one one version somehow attributes this 184 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:42.559 description to Jackie Copeland telling the story of how he disappeared. 185 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.000 The newspaper is actually telling the tale of the searcher 186 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:49.840 who found an oil, smeared Jackie Copeland, hiding behind a 187 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:53.879 tree and scampering into the brush. Nobody saw any creature. 188 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:58.240 Jackie was the supposed creature. The issue here is that 189 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.480 the missing four to one one book two sentences out 190 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:05.039 of an entire paragraph that is telling a story. Now, 191 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.120 if we give the benefit of the doubt and say 192 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:10.480 this mishapen is entirely by accident, then what are the 193 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:13.840 chances that this accident also happens to make the story 194 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.399 more mysterious, creepy or paranormal. Something to think about. And 195 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:21.399 if you're stuck on the actual description that Jackie gave 196 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.559 of the awful blackness, the throbbing giant, and the tall 197 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.159 friendly tree, Let's remember that Jackie was two years old 198 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:32.360 when this happened. Let's talk about the case of Eloise Lindsay. 199 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.639 Let me preface this by saying that Politis writes that 200 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:40.080 this case is definitely one of the strangest stories in 201 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:44.240 the entire book. Let's see twenty two year old Eloise 202 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:47.919 Lindsay disappeared in nineteen eighty nine in Table Rock State Park, 203 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:51.120 South Carolina. This is another case I've covered on the 204 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:54.399 Channel back in the day, and probably not very well either, 205 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:57.879 but I never focused on the discrepancies. If you read 206 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:00.919 the Missing four on one Eastern US version of the story, 207 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:04.360 starting on page one thirty three, the story goes something 208 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:07.679 like this. Eloise was on a long hike, doing seven 209 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.919 days alone before meeting a friend. On the third day 210 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.399 of her hike, she started being followed by a group 211 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.639 of men who meant to harm her. Eloise drops her 212 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:19.440 backpack and equipment and runs off trail to try and 213 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:23.320 avoid these men. She was eventually found in a delirious 214 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:27.480 state by a hunter after sixteen days missing. Afterwards, she 215 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.159 was taken to safety, but up until the moment she 216 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:32.799 was found, she claimed that she was being chased through 217 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:35.720 the woods by a group of men she never saw. 218 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.320 She then told her story to reporters from her hospital bed. 219 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:43.679 Politus finishes the story by saying, quote, my question for 220 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.399 Eloise and her mother is what did the girl see? 221 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.080 Her mother indicates she saw something, and what she saw 222 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:52.639 is something that she obviously does not want to make 223 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:57.279 public for whatever reason. At the end of Eloise Lindsay's story, 224 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:00.440 Politis refers the reader to the Denis Martin case and 225 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.440 the existence of the fabled wild men that live in 226 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:08.120 the Smokies, obviously making a connection between what Eloise experienced 227 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:12.120 and the supposed feral wild men from the Denis Martin case. 228 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:15.399 And don't worry, we'll hit the Denis Martin case. The 229 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:18.559 main takeaway from the Missing four one one presentation of 230 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:23.080 this case is this Eloise was stoked by some strange 231 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.440 and shadowy people for over two weeks. There is no 232 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:29.600 mention of the group of men ever doing anything other 233 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:33.200 than silently following Eloise in the woods, and the only 234 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.799 speculation Politis puts forth about who they could be is 235 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:40.840 the supposed wild men. Why does this matter, Well, let's 236 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:45.440 look at the reporting. At the time. Miss Lindsay said 237 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.879 she knew rescuers were searching for her, but also believed 238 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.559 men working in the area were bent on harming her. 239 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.200 She said the men had dogs, monitors for tracking down 240 00:13:55.279 --> 00:14:01.159 living animals, whistles, guns, tractors, cars, mopeds, boats. I feel 241 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.159 like if they had been part of the search party, 242 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:06.519 they would have been calling out Eloise, we're here to 243 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:09.799 get you. At some points they came very close to 244 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:12.600 finding me, but it was never at the right time. 245 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.480 Other articles mentioned that Eloise could hear the men using 246 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:20.039 walkie talkies and even talking about her. If you read 247 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:22.600 the articles, you get the sense that Eloise may be 248 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:25.679 suffering from some sort of mental illness. She went in 249 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:28.879 for a psych evaluation after she left the hospital. It 250 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:32.519 really seems like she was perhaps paranoid and eventually determined 251 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:35.519 that the searchers were actually men out to cause her harm. 252 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:38.960 The main question is why doesn't Missing four one one 253 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:42.000 mention any of this. Is it because you can't push 254 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:45.279 a feral wild man theory. If the missing person says 255 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.480 that they were being chased by cars, mopads, and boats, 256 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:52.000 Seriously consider what it does to the perception of a 257 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:55.759 case when you say she was being chased by mysterious 258 00:14:55.840 --> 00:15:00.200 men she never saw, versus she knew searchers were in 259 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:03.120 the area, but she felt she was being chased by 260 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:08.480 men using dogs, guns, tractors, cars, mopeds, and boats. The 261 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:13.080 two scenarios give off very different vibes. One that's mysterious 262 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:16.440 and one that's not at all. In the end, this 263 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:20.879 case should have been excluded due to mental illness. Karen 264 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:26.840 Cooney Karen Cooney was a fifteen year old girl in Corey, Pennsylvania, 265 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:30.399 who disappeared in nineteen sixty eight. The missing four one 266 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.559 one story goes that Karen was in her backyard doing 267 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:36.679 chores when her family heard her scream. When they went 268 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:40.559 to check on her, Karen had vanished. A search was initiated, 269 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:43.440 and a little over a day later, Karen was found 270 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:46.960 in a dazed state. She told authorities she was chased 271 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.639 from her home by a big man with a knife 272 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:52.679 who followed her into the woods a long ways until 273 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:56.559 she fell asleep again a story of someone being chased 274 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:59.960 through the woods. So what's the deal with this case, Well, 275 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.879 let's read some additional information that newspapers talked about. You see, 276 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:08.360 authorities quickly found out that Karen was making things up. 277 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:11.919 The FBI got involved when there was allegations of kidnapping, 278 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:14.919 and when the state police talked to her, she told 279 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:17.279 them that she had been very nervous and high strung 280 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:19.919 lately and decided to go for a walk in the 281 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:23.799 woods near her home. Her scream which triggered the theory 282 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.440 that Karen may have been kidnapped as she was hanging 283 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:29.960 the family wash occurred when she entered a wooded area 284 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:33.000 and had to cross an electric fence, which shocked her. 285 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:36.639 So the whole Karen Cooney story is kind of just 286 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:40.159 a fabrication. But in the same Missing four one one book, 287 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:44.559 Politis compares this case to that of Eloise Lindsay, saying 288 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:47.799 this case is not the only case in which strange 289 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:51.879 looking men are described in the woods associated with a disappearance. 290 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.000 He then refers to Eloise's story and ends the paragraph 291 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:00.440 with it's an odd coincidence that both Eloise Lindsay and 292 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:04.720 Karen Cooney described being chased by men and they don't 293 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:09.000 or won't supply descriptions. Why is it just me or 294 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:13.279 are both those sentences kind of contradictory? Anyway, We actually 295 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.960 know that Eloise did describe the people chasing her almost 296 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:20.519 too well, while Karen was just never chased at all. 297 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:23.400 But these cases in Missing four one one worked to 298 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:26.240 create a narrative that there are these strange people in 299 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:29.960 the woods. That Karen Cooney case should have been excluded 300 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:35.880 due to voluntary disappearance. Let's talk Kevin Die. Kevin Dye 301 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.640 was a nine year old boy who disappeared in nineteen 302 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:42.519 seventy one from a cabin in Wyoming. Missing four one 303 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:45.960 one mentions that Kevin is disabled, but doesn't go into 304 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:50.160 detail about just how disabled he is. Kevin was playing 305 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:53.440 pingpong outside with family when the ball was hit out 306 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:57.680 into the trees and brush. Naturally, Kevin chased after the ball. 307 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:00.960 He ran into the woods and did not return. A 308 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:04.160 search began, and some searchers said that they saw Kevin, 309 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.119 but he ran off into the woods. Food was left 310 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:09.960 out for him and was taken quickly, with no culprit 311 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:13.519 having been found. Searchers also found a lean two shelter 312 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.079 made of pine bows, as well as some stick and 313 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:19.519 stone constructions that his parents said looked like the stuff 314 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.359 that Kevin would make. Kevin was actually found after eleven 315 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:28.079 days alongside a creek, laying down exhausted. He had lost 316 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:31.279 twenty pounds, a quarter of his body weight, and a 317 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:34.960 doctor said that he believed Kevin ate nothing the entire time. 318 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:38.119 The Missing four one one entry ends by saying that 319 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.720 Kevin was not telling anyone what happened during his time 320 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.960 in the woods. Keep that last sentence in mind for 321 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:48.599 just a minute now. To me, this case isn't very 322 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:51.759 strange to begin with, but it gets even less strange 323 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:54.920 when you learn that Kevin was so disabled that he 324 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:59.000 couldn't really speak at all. He was barely communicative, but 325 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:02.880 he had more energy than any kid we can probably imagine. 326 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:06.720 One newspaper said that he had the physical condition of 327 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:10.440 a top athlete, But who can become a screaming, flailing 328 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:14.559 animal when he fails to make himself understood? In fact, 329 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:18.720 the newspaper's report that Kevin was so hyperactive that his 330 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.319 parents had to give him nine tranquilizers a day and 331 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:26.680 it still wasn't enough. This poor kid was so unbelievably 332 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:29.559 energetic that they had to give him enough meds to 333 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:33.000 kill a horse and it still didn't work. Is it 334 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:35.799 any wonder that he just ran off into the forest. 335 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:39.160 His parents said that they're yelling and screaming for him, 336 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:42.400 probably drove him into the forest. Even more, All of 337 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:45.680 the constructs that were found in the forest were probably Kevin, 338 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:49.000 as confirmed by the parents, and the missing food was 339 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:53.079 probably Kevin as well. You see, the doctor assumed Kevin 340 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:56.279 didn't eat because he lost so much weight. But consider 341 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:59.599 that we have an ultra hyperactive kid who is now 342 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:03.559 off his nine tranquilizers a day, this kid was probably 343 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.960 burning many thousands of calories per day while lost. Even 344 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:10.680 with some food, he still would have lost that weight. 345 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:13.799 There was also some local people who reported that they 346 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:16.839 had break ins at their cabins where someone stole their 347 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:19.839 jars of peanut butter. As it turns out, peanut butter 348 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:23.400 was Kevin's favorite food. It seems readily apparent to me 349 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:27.240 that this hyperactive child spent ten to eleven days running 350 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:31.039 around building things and stealing peanut butter until he eventually 351 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:33.480 lost a quarter of his body weight, at which point 352 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:37.000 he finally collapsed and was found by searchers. I'm not 353 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:39.400 sure why this is a missing four one one case. 354 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:44.079 It should have been excluded based on mental illness. Moving on, 355 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:46.799 I know Missing four one one has often made mention 356 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:49.920 of the children who disappear and show up many miles 357 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:54.880 away or are found at incredible elevations. Okay, if true, 358 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:58.000 it also sounds amazing to me, So let's take a 359 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:01.039 look at some of those cases. I got this list 360 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:04.559 from Missing four one one Devil's in the Details page 361 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.400 three hundred and sixty two. This is a list of 362 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:11.000 missing people by distance traveled. So let's look at the 363 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:15.119 number one on that list, Jack Hodges, who apparently traveled 364 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:19.119 fifty miles at only seven years old. Here's the story, 365 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:24.839 Jack Hodges. Seven year old Jack Hodges was with his 366 00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:28.000 family visiting a ranch thirty miles to the north of 367 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:31.640 the city of Seligman and northern Arizona. At some point, 368 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:35.160 and for some reason, Jack disappeared along with his dog. 369 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:38.160 The dog returned a few hours later, but there was 370 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:41.519 no Jack. A search was immediately initiated to try and 371 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:44.319 find the boy, as temperatures in the area were getting 372 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:47.839 down to fourteen degrees at night. Two days into the search, 373 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:51.039 Jack was found by two cowboys on the slopes of 374 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:54.440 Mount Floyd, which lies about ten miles to the northeast 375 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:58.240 of Seligman. A newspaper article referenced in Missing four one 376 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:02.640 one states searchers estimated the warmly clad youngster must have 377 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:07.200 walked some fifty miles, mostly in circles. Jack was in 378 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.400 relatively good condition. He was taken to a hospital and 379 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:14.720 released a day later. Politis ends Jack's case with these lines. 380 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.559 I will continue to present these cases to exemplify a 381 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.640 point we can't ignore what seems illogical we can't attempt 382 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:26.279 to reconcile in our minds what seems uncomfortable to believe. 383 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:30.200 Some pretty cryptic words there. Politis makes a point to 384 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:32.880 say that there was no water in the area and 385 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:35.720 that only a little snow was on the mountain. He 386 00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:38.160 states that the idea that Jack could have eaten this 387 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:41.799 snow does not make sense. Keep that last part in mind. 388 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:45.440 Politas says, it makes no sense that Jack could have 389 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:49.359 eaten snow. So what's the reality of this situation? Did 390 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:52.759 little Jack Hodges really walk fifty miles in two days? 391 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:57.039 Probably not. Let's think about it. This is literally just 392 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.519 something a searcher told a newspaper and for who knows 393 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:05.000 what reason, and he was probably exaggerating. Jack disappeared from 394 00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:08.079 a ranch that was about thirty miles north of Seligman 395 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:11.720 and was found at a location about ten miles northeast 396 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.240 of Seligman. Jack could have walked twenty to twenty five 397 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:18.240 miles in order to get to Mount Floyd. I'll also 398 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.680 add that one newspaper says that Jack was found near 399 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:26.039 Mount Floyd in an area about twenty miles north of Seligman. 400 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.640 If accurate, Jack would have only been ten miles away 401 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:32.720