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Speaker 2: A bunch of stories that we are following today.
Speaker 3: A couple of people found dead in northern California because
Speaker 3: of that atmospheric river that dumped a record amount of
Speaker 3: rain over the weekend, caused rivers and creeks to overflow.
Speaker 3: Both deaths reported in Sonoma County. About twenty inches of
Speaker 3: rain over three days.
Speaker 1: Or as my friends and I call it, November in
Speaker 1: northern California.
Speaker 3: Well, they said that they got November's worth of rain
Speaker 3: in three days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which seems like a lot.
Speaker 3: Did you see the video of TD Jake's the pastor no,
Speaker 3: so he's I know you weren't watching his service yesterday,
Speaker 3: but he was on stage at his church in I
Speaker 3: think it's called Potter's House in Dallas, and he's praying,
Speaker 3: and he's sitting in a little stool and right at
Speaker 3: the end of his prayer, he just stops moving.
Speaker 2: Must from.
Speaker 4: Well going peace.
Speaker 5: The microphone kind of falls away from his hand or
Speaker 5: his arm falls away from his mouth, I should say,
Speaker 5: and he starts convulsing a little bit, but he doesn't
Speaker 5: fall off the stage, which was crazy because he's just
Speaker 5: sitting on a stool and ten twelve people immediately rush
Speaker 5: onto the stage and get him.
Speaker 3: The official statement from Potter's house from the church is
Speaker 3: that he experienced a slight health incident that he received
Speaker 3: immediate medical attention following his hour long sermon that he
Speaker 3: had given.
Speaker 2: So it was right at the end of his sermon.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like a stroke or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then they're very careful to say it's simply
Speaker 3: a slight health incident.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, swamp watch swamp hard.
Speaker 2: The government doesn't work, man. It is like in reality TV.
Speaker 2: Shooting co was a bad news, always.
Speaker 3: A pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Hey, Joe.
Speaker 5: A town hall too, clearly built on a swamp and
Speaker 5: in so many ways still a swamp.
Speaker 2: I have a batch of malarkey.
Speaker 1: Nobody said, drained the swamp.
Speaker 2: I said, Oh, that's so hell keep happens, you know
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 3: Well, a big news is that Jack Smith is asking
Speaker 3: permission from the court to abandon a couple of federal
Speaker 3: cases against President elect Trump.
Speaker 2: This could be at least two of the lengthy.
Speaker 3: Historic investigations that never make it to trial and may
Speaker 3: never see the inside of a courtroom again.
Speaker 1: Trump phased four felony charges in connection with his efforts
Speaker 1: to overturn the presidential election loss in twenty twenty, of course,
Speaker 1: culminating with the attack at the Capitol, Conspiracy to defraud
Speaker 1: the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction
Speaker 1: of an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy
Speaker 1: against to rights. That was a new one for me.
Speaker 3: There's two filings here. One of them, Smith asked Judge
Speaker 3: Tanya Chukun to dismiss the federal election interference charges that
Speaker 3: you were referring to, saying that he stands fully behind
Speaker 3: the allegations in the indictment, but says the Justice Department's
Speaker 3: guidelines make it clear that he could not prosecute a
Speaker 3: sitting president. About an hour after that, just a short
Speaker 3: time ago, he filed a separate motion in the US
Speaker 3: Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit down in the
Speaker 3: Southern part of the United States, asking to drop Trump
Speaker 3: as a co defendant from the Special Council's appeal of
Speaker 3: a ruling in the classified Documents case that judge in
Speaker 3: that case, Aileen Cannon had dismissed the indictment, breaking with
Speaker 3: legal precedent to agree with Trump's lawyers that Smith was
Speaker 3: unlawfully appointed. Again, not the details of the case, but
Speaker 3: unlawful prosecution. He was, of course accused in that case
Speaker 3: of hoarding classified documents down at mar A Lago.
Speaker 1: Well, what is next for Kamala Harris. She left for
Speaker 1: a Hawaiian vacation. She is searching, her aid say, for
Speaker 1: the next steps in her political career after losing the election.
Speaker 1: Former Harris aid Brian Brocon told Politico She's not someone
Speaker 1: who makes rash decisions. She takes sometimes a painfully long
Speaker 1: time to make decisions. So I would pretty much guarantee
Speaker 1: you she has no idea what her next move is.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's one of those that a politician
Speaker 3: in that at that level. I mean, she ran for president,
Speaker 3: that's a rarefied air.
Speaker 1: She could run for governor here at California. Another presidential
Speaker 1: run could be on the table. I thought that there
Speaker 1: was no possibility of that. However, that chunk of Democrats
Speaker 1: that came out forty one percent in that poll last
Speaker 1: week said that they would support her as a candidate
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight, and I.
Speaker 3: Wonder how much of that is just recency bias. I mean,
Speaker 3: her name had been plastered around for one hundred and
Speaker 3: seven days, you know, longer than that, but one hundred
Speaker 3: and seven days as the length of the campaign, So
Speaker 3: you know it's you'd have to give that one a
Speaker 3: few months, give it six months, and ask that question
Speaker 3: again of what you want Kamala Harris to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, just forget, I mean, don't forget. She ran
Speaker 1: in that full length the Democratic primary. She didn't make
Speaker 1: it long enough to the Iowa caucus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she got zero votes in either prime.
Speaker 1: How many people around her spoke out during her mad
Speaker 1: dash to the White House. You didn't see a lot
Speaker 1: of people come to her defense and talk about how
Speaker 1: wonderful she is. You know, it doesn't seem like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of popularity even in her inner circle. And
Speaker 1: that was something that was reported for a long time
Speaker 1: about her aids and the exodus from the office, or
Speaker 1: her bad temper, things like that. Not a lot of
Speaker 1: not a lot of popularity points Well you might need, Glinda.
Speaker 3: It goes back to, you know, this unfortunate pattern that
Speaker 3: we found found ourselves in I want to say for
Speaker 3: probably thirty or forty years, where it much more so
Speaker 3: in the last few election cycles. We're not voting for
Speaker 3: the people that we support, We're voting against the other person.
Speaker 1: And money is not moving the needle the way it
Speaker 1: has historically. One point five billion dollars in fifteen weeks
Speaker 1: and nothing to show for it.
Speaker 3: I mean, she was making progress in the polls, but
Speaker 3: the polls were wrong.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 3: It's just an it's it is a strange, strange phenomenon.
Speaker 3: One thing happened today that we'll play when we come back,
Speaker 3: the presidential pardoning of the Turkey.
Speaker 1: Oh, for the love, I heard it in Amy's News
Speaker 1: and I got very uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: It doesn't get better when I play the longer version either.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Chargers hosting the Ravens out at so far.
Speaker 3: That's where Shannon is right now, get ready for the
Speaker 3: latest Harball Bowl. Not quite as interesting or exciting as
Speaker 3: the last one, but still always fun.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, this has a big, big time
Speaker 1: feel between these two days. These two teams tonight.
Speaker 2: Well, like you said, they're both playoff bound, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this season ended today, they would both be in
Speaker 1: the postseason. Yes, I mean, who knows what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: down the stretch. A lot of football left to play,
Speaker 1: but they are two of the teams being talked about
Speaker 1: as power as the powerful ones in the AFC. I mean,
Speaker 1: you'll get Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Justin Herbert what he's
Speaker 1: been able to do. He's got the most twenty plus
Speaker 1: yard touchdown passes. The air attack tonight could be insane.
Speaker 1: I mean, Justin Herbert could put on a freaking show
Speaker 1: tonight with the way that that Baltimore pass defense is struggling.
Speaker 1: So we'll see that's.
Speaker 2: A It'll still be fun. I think you're excited.
Speaker 1: What do you mean it'll still be fun.
Speaker 2: That'll still be fun.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be maybe
Speaker 1: the game of the week.
Speaker 2: You don't have to get angry. Look at you, you're
Speaker 2: getting angry.
Speaker 1: I just said Justin Herbert might on a great show,
Speaker 1: and you're like, it'll still be fun.
Speaker 2: It'll still be fun if he does that. Did you
Speaker 2: eat anything today yet?
Speaker 1: Have I add some corn chips? I have an incrustables
Speaker 1: that I'm staring at. Okay, might get into that.
Speaker 2: I just know that sometimes you get angry when you haven't.
Speaker 1: I'm not angry. It doesn't sound like it's not making
Speaker 1: any sense.
Speaker 3: One of the most common prescription drugs could be putting
Speaker 3: you at higher risk for losing bone density.
Speaker 1: Oh that's not good.
Speaker 2: No, it is not.
Speaker 3: Study from Johns Hopkins found that people who have been
Speaker 3: taking the drug level thyroxine that's what I take, known
Speaker 3: most often as synthroid, that's.
Speaker 1: What I take every day. I've taken it my whole life.
Speaker 3: More likely to lose a larger amount of bone tissue
Speaker 3: than people not taking it.
Speaker 1: I have noticed that my bone density has not been
Speaker 1: what it once was. Thank you for a chi check
Speaker 1: your bone density. No, I'm just kidding. I've just that
Speaker 1: just happens as you get older, you know. Austin horosis
Speaker 1: sets In the bizarre story at Laxcept, the dad that
Speaker 1: flew to find his alleged missing thirty one year old daughter.
Speaker 1: She was here from Hawaiian route to New York and
Speaker 1: she just stopped communicating with her family when she landed
Speaker 1: in la She's been cited at various points in the city,
Speaker 1: and the family came out here and has had this
Speaker 1: big kind of media push to rally around finding this
Speaker 1: woman and to me, it seems like she's thirty one
Speaker 1: years old. She's just out there living her life. She
Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk to this family. But I mean,
Speaker 1: the dad turns up dead and then it turns out
Speaker 1: that he jumped off of a roof or something near
Speaker 1: lax suicide.
Speaker 3: They're saying, yeah, not something is going on. You made
Speaker 3: the point earlier that it will find out more information.
Speaker 3: And I wonder if it's just that this is a
Speaker 3: very troubled not just a troubled girl or a woman,
Speaker 3: Sorry Hannah, but the family.
Speaker 2: May have issues going on.
Speaker 3: The big deal out of DC Special counsel Jack Smith
Speaker 3: dropping the federal election subversion case and be mishandling classified
Speaker 3: documents cases against President Alex Trump trying to dismiss these
Speaker 3: in court filings today. Trump had long said that he
Speaker 3: would fire Jack Smith when he retakes office. Jack Smith wrote,
Speaker 3: the Justice Department's position is that the constitution requires that
Speaker 3: this case be dismissed before the defendant is inaugurated, so
Speaker 3: that the outcome is not based on the merits or
Speaker 3: the strength of a case against the defendant, but basically
Speaker 3: just that it's the long standing policy of the DJ
Speaker 3: that they don't prosecute sitting presidents.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the term.
Speaker 3: Well, a Thanksgiving tradition. It's funny, it's goofy. It's a
Speaker 3: way to humanize the president, whoever it might be. And
Speaker 3: it's just a goofy. I don't know, it's a goofy
Speaker 3: Monday in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: It takes on a sadness to me this year, just
Speaker 1: because it's like the only thing that Biden kind of
Speaker 1: can do well. He can't take questions from reporters on
Speaker 1: what our involvement is, our stepped up involvement when it
Speaker 1: comes to Ukraine and Russia. But he can't and do
Speaker 1: the whole Turkey thing.
Speaker 3: And then over the weekend, I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was Saturday Sunday, they've already thrown him a goodbye party,
Speaker 3: like an end of the term party. Well, anyway, here
Speaker 3: this was from this morning's Turkey Pardon.
Speaker 4: Now he was nine year old son Grant. They've raised
Speaker 4: two special guests for honoring today, Peach and Blossom. Let's
Speaker 4: break Peach up.
Speaker 1: To join us. Oh no, is he gonna talk to me?
Speaker 4: Telly? Peach weighs about forty two pounds.
Speaker 2: Well, let's try to make some fun turkey jokes.
Speaker 4: And why do you say peach? Oh, peach Megan last
Speaker 4: man to plea here. The two turkeys are named after
Speaker 4: a Delaware state flower, the peace blossom. And by the way,
Speaker 4: Delaware has a long history of growing peaches. In fact,
Speaker 4: the peach pie in our state is one of my
Speaker 4: favorites of state dessert. And peach blossom flowers also symbolized
Speaker 4: as the resilience, which is quite frankly fitting for today.
Speaker 1: Not a joke.
Speaker 4: This White House tradition began when turkey was resented to
Speaker 4: President Truman and that president, then President George HW. Bush
Speaker 4: began partning turkeys in the last four years out of
Speaker 4: the order to continue that tradition by pardoning peanut butter
Speaker 4: and jelly chocolate chip, Oh God, Liberty and bell and
Speaker 4: today p JM. Blossom.
Speaker 2: It's in the context of three.
Speaker 4: Birds in the United States of America.
Speaker 3: It's just in the context of we know about about
Speaker 3: Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: He's eighty two.
Speaker 1: I mean I can say that he was at the
Speaker 1: Truman and it was a joke, but he was with us,
Speaker 1: he was alive, he was a wild he was a child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there, but it was definitely, we're.
Speaker 4: Also keeping our hearts. Oh, who have lost so much?
Speaker 4: Who will have an EMPTYCD at the Thanksgiving dinner table
Speaker 4: tonight or Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Or whenever you do it, wheneverything's giving?
Speaker 1: Can we not? Can we just not?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 1: Who is he talking about the dead? People? Just in general?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: He was honoring members of the military who are not
Speaker 3: going to be able to do Thanksgiving with their families,
Speaker 3: but also anybody who had lost a loved one over
Speaker 3: the course of the last year, since the last Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Okay, he was talking to me, if that's who you're asked.
Speaker 1: He was talking to me, I thought, sorry, go ahead, nothing.
Speaker 2: No, it's something going on in there.
Speaker 1: I hear like a.
Speaker 2: Like a vacuum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a vacuum type machine. I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you don't know what a vacuum sounds like.
Speaker 1: Sorry, basically I can't remember the last time I operated
Speaker 1: a vacuum. I have a roomba.
Speaker 2: Oh you have people for that.
Speaker 1: Color Helen, because she runs into stuff she can't That
Speaker 1: is mean? What do you mean? That's mean?
Speaker 3: The stories that we are following right here on Gary
Speaker 3: and Shannon Jack Smith Special Council is asking permission from
Speaker 3: US courts now to abandon two of the federal cases
Speaker 3: against President elect Trump, probably coming bringing to an end
Speaker 3: a couple of the investigations that never actually made it
Speaker 3: to trial. So first thing this morning, he asked the
Speaker 3: district Judge Tanya Chutekun to dismiss the federal election interference
Speaker 3: charges brought in. DC said he does stand behind the
Speaker 3: allegations of the indictment, but says the Justice Department guideline
Speaker 3: makes it clear that he could not prosecute a sitting president.
Speaker 3: About an hour after that, he made a separate motion
Speaker 3: to the Eleventh Circuit asking to drop Trump as one
Speaker 3: of the co defendants from the Special Council's appeal of
Speaker 3: a ruling in the classified documents case. That one was
Speaker 3: dismissed by Judge Aileen Cannon because it basically it agrees
Speaker 3: she agreed with Trump's lawyers that the special counsel in
Speaker 3: that case was unlawfully appointed. So good Thanksgiving week news
Speaker 3: for the incoming president.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised now we're just labeling this behavior this behavioral pattern.
Speaker 1: I would think that we would have named it a
Speaker 1: long time ago, since that this is not really anything new,
Speaker 1: but now we have a word for it.
Speaker 3: Fubbing, fubbing, fubbing, phu, fubbing, bb ing. It is fubbing
Speaker 3: phone snubbing.
Speaker 1: They say it's an insidious habit that can hurt your relationship.
Speaker 3: It's true, Well you go on and talk about I
Speaker 3: don't mean you. Someone goes on and talks about something
Speaker 3: only to look up and realize the person that you've
Speaker 3: been talking to has not been paying attention to you.
Speaker 2: They've snubbed you by looking at the phone.
Speaker 1: One of my least favorite things is when you call
Speaker 1: somebody on it or stop talking to highlight the fact
Speaker 1: that you think they're not listening.
Speaker 3: Yes, and they just wait in silence until.
Speaker 1: They say what, I'm listening, And it's like, okay, maybe,
Speaker 1: but are you really? And also can't I get some
Speaker 1: undifided attention up in here?
Speaker 3: Oh you are needy? Fubbing can range be a range
Speaker 3: of different behavior.
Speaker 1: Don't need to have blanket undivided attention, but for like
Speaker 1: a couple minutes while I'm trying to make some sort
Speaker 1: of point.
Speaker 3: Some people say it's just glancing at your phone in
Speaker 3: the middle of a conversation, right, It might be checking
Speaker 3: your phone when the conversation stalls out a little bit,
Speaker 3: or just even having your phone nearby and reacting any
Speaker 3: moment that thing pings or dings or bongs or dongs
Speaker 3: or something like that.
Speaker 1: I'm super guilty of this, but I'm aware of it,
Speaker 1: which I think is important. I'm aware of it to
Speaker 1: where I don't want to do it as much, nearly
Speaker 1: as much as I don't want to do it at all.
Speaker 1: But I definitely don't want to do it nearly as
Speaker 1: much as I catch myself doing it. But I think
Speaker 1: some people lack the awareness that this is a thing,
Speaker 1: or that it's rude, or they don't perceive it as
Speaker 1: rude because everyone's just on their phones all the time.
Speaker 1: I was going to the elevator at work last week
Speaker 1: and realized I was looking down at my phone, and
Speaker 1: if someone comes out of the elevator and it walks
Speaker 1: past me, and I felt kind of bad, like why
Speaker 1: wasn't I a human and made eye contact with that
Speaker 1: person and said good morning instead of just continuing to
Speaker 1: look down at my phone despite them existing. I know
Speaker 1: that not everybody. You don't need to say good morning
Speaker 1: to everyone you encounter at the elevator thing. But it
Speaker 1: even hit me in that moment, like, look at me.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those Wally people. I just have my
Speaker 1: head in my phone instead of having a conversation or
Speaker 1: a pleasantry.
Speaker 2: Wally people.
Speaker 1: You know the movie that you reference.
Speaker 2: I know, I get it.
Speaker 3: Anthony Chambers is a Board certified Couple and Family psychologists,
Speaker 3: chief academic officer at the Family Institute at Northwestern University
Speaker 3: and says that this really does have an impact, and
Speaker 3: for most couples it's pretty easy issue to fix, especially
Speaker 3: if you see it happening. I mean, if you see
Speaker 3: it and it's a problem that you should be able
Speaker 3: to do something about it. A couple people have suggested
Speaker 3: just some starter questions, so what rules do we have
Speaker 3: when we talk to others? Now, some of it sounds
Speaker 3: a little childish, but in terms of setting some of
Speaker 3: the really basic of foundational rules about rules, not the
Speaker 3: right word guidelines, perhaps where you would say to your
Speaker 3: significant other, Hey, I know this is a problem for me.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do my best, So feel free to
Speaker 3: call me out on it if you feel like I'm
Speaker 3: not paying attention to you because I'm looking.
Speaker 2: At my phone.
Speaker 1: The thing is is that you know, you use your
Speaker 1: phone for so many things, use it to google things,
Speaker 1: You look at it for your calendar, you look at
Speaker 1: it for you know, what you've got coming up this week,
Speaker 1: You look at it for news items. We get these alerts.
Speaker 1: So this just happened, and you click on it and
Speaker 1: you're reading through. But what it comes across is that
Speaker 1: you're choosing to give attention to somebody else versus the
Speaker 1: person that you are face to face.
Speaker 2: With, right even if it's even if it's momentary.
Speaker 1: To the exclusion of whoever you're with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's an awful thing to be on the
Speaker 3: receiving end of that. If you're saying something and you're
Speaker 3: telling a story. Granted, I know mine can get boring
Speaker 3: at times, but if somebody immediately would rather look at
Speaker 3: the the alert that they got from Instagram as opposed
Speaker 3: to me finishing my very fun and interesting story, it hurts.
Speaker 1: You just went from boring to fun and interesting.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I get it. I know they said.
Speaker 1: It's not like you can. You're not going to avoid
Speaker 1: your phone altogether, but just being aware of it, or
Speaker 1: maybe like putting it in another room or something is
Speaker 1: something that I need to do better.
Speaker 3: At There's one suggestion that I think is pretty funny,
Speaker 3: and that is maybe narrate what you're doing, because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then it's like, doth protest too much? Like
Speaker 1: I'm looking up what Jack Smith did today because I
Speaker 1: want to know the legal ramifications and if this has
Speaker 1: ever happened in history, and you know, you think about Nixon,
Speaker 1: and then by the way, Nixon, when did that happen?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, no one wants to hear.
Speaker 3: Your train of thought, my train of thought. It's a
Speaker 3: crazy train. People tend to put their phones face down
Speaker 3: and then only pick them up for a moment or two,
Speaker 3: and that can feel unintentionally secretive. So they said for
Speaker 3: that reason, it might help narrate what you're doing. If
Speaker 3: you're depositing a mobile check, you're replying to a work email,
Speaker 3: whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I do that sometimes when I'll remember to oh, I
Speaker 1: forgot to deposit that check, or I forgot to write
Speaker 1: back to my boss or whatever, and I'll say like, oh,
Speaker 1: let me do this really quick, because I'll forget if
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's and I think that's perfectly acceptable. It's that
Speaker 3: when you sit down to dinner and you're at a
Speaker 3: restaurant somewhere or whatever, and it's just just the two
Speaker 3: of you or two of whoever you're with, and you
Speaker 3: continue to do that. That's when it becomes the issue,
Speaker 3: because people like you said you can even be aware
Speaker 3: of it and still fall prey to it, still succumb
Speaker 3: to the temptation to pick up your phone.
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Speaker 1: forgot my laptop charger as well, so that has died.
Speaker 1: So I will be for the next hour and change
Speaker 1: of flubbing. You can't see me, but I'm not really flubbing.
Speaker 1: I just am looking up stuff on the phone that
Speaker 1: we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Oh, just fubbing. There's no l in it.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, it's not flbbing, it's fubbing. Fubbing that makes
Speaker 1: it worse.
Speaker 2: I no, I agree.
Speaker 3: I don't know who came up with that and why
Speaker 3: they think that that would be. But maybe, but I'm
Speaker 3: paying at if you name it something that you don't
Speaker 3: want to say, maybe you don't do it.
Speaker 2: Uh first place? Okay.
Speaker 3: The big story today politically, Jack Smith, special counsel, was
Speaker 3: the one who brought a paraphelony cases against Trump when
Speaker 3: accusing him of attempting to overturn the election in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one, accusing him of illegally retaining classified documents. Moved
Speaker 3: to both to drop both sets of charges against him. Today,
Speaker 3: he cited the Justice Department policy that forbids pursuing prosecutions
Speaker 3: against sitting presidents. So that's those things appear to be
Speaker 3: dead for the most part. We'll see if they ever
Speaker 3: get picked back up. A couple of people died in
Speaker 3: northern California after the storys rolled through over the last
Speaker 3: several days, both of them up in Sonoma County. One
Speaker 3: of them was found in a car after having tried
Speaker 3: to cross a flooded stream near Gernville. Another one was
Speaker 3: found floating in a creek. I'm not quite sure what
Speaker 3: happened to either one of them specifically, but they said
Speaker 3: that in parts of Sonoma County they received twenty inches
Speaker 3: of rain over three days.
Speaker 1: Wow, the dream of perfect sleep may be making you
Speaker 1: an insomniac. All of this attention to how much sleep
Speaker 1: am I getting? What does my aura ring tell me?
Speaker 1: The concept of sleep maxing is all over TikTok. For example,
Speaker 1: it includes some extreme measures like drinking a magnesium cocktail
Speaker 1: before bed or using a nasal dilator to perfect your breathing.
Speaker 2: What was that.
Speaker 3: You stick a finger in your nose to clean them
Speaker 3: out a little bit before you go to bed.
Speaker 1: I went to yoga with Petros over the weekend at
Speaker 1: his sister's studio in Torrance, and he is a He
Speaker 1: is a He breathes very well, very audibly. I was
Speaker 1: wondering what his sleep situation is because he's such a
Speaker 1: loud breather, and then I remembered that he did have
Speaker 1: like a sleep machine he.
Speaker 3: Used to use years ago, an apnea machine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but man, that's some strong breathing.
Speaker 3: Regular routine is really the best thing they say for you. Obviously,
Speaker 3: you know, limit your your alcohol intake, et cetera, especially
Speaker 3: right before bed, and don't eat right before bed. They said,
Speaker 3: channel your inner child. Ideally you want to go to
Speaker 3: bed thinking like a five or six year old. They
Speaker 3: don't go to bed worrying about the rent or mortgage.
Speaker 3: They stay in the moment, they feel safe, they don't
Speaker 3: have these runaway thoughts. It's important to put anything that's
Speaker 3: worrying you aside until tomorrow when you get into bed.
Speaker 3: For me, a lot of that has to do with reading, like.
Speaker 1: You're going to get you some maybe some stuffed animals or.
Speaker 3: Something that's not that that would not help me at all.
Speaker 1: They would be watching it make you feel like a
Speaker 1: five year old like you is right next to you.
Speaker 2: I never had a mister fluffles.
Speaker 1: I was in a stuffed animal child either, and.
Speaker 3: They would they would they would creep me out and
Speaker 3: I would feel like they were coming after me, and
Speaker 3: the really, oh, I'd hate it.
Speaker 1: So you have a fear of stuff animals.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not that I have a fear, it's that
Speaker 3: I just don't want them around when I'm trying to
Speaker 3: go to sleep.
Speaker 1: Interesting, this is all making a lot of sense now.
Speaker 2: They say, talk to a doctor.
Speaker 3: If your sleep doesn't improve, talk to your health care
Speaker 3: provider may refer you to a sleep specialist. And then
Speaker 3: the University of Arkansas says, be gentle with yourself.
Speaker 2: Oh God, what works best for.
Speaker 3: Me now is a routine that emphasizes relaxation without strict rules.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I throw on the com app to go to sleep.
Speaker 1: They have like some sleep meditations or sleep stories, And
Speaker 1: it is good advice to be gentle with yourself. If
Speaker 1: you start beating yourself up, you know, right before you
Speaker 1: go to bed, it's not going to help you. You know,
Speaker 1: like you always do this. You ate too late and
Speaker 1: you can't turn off your head and that gets you nowhere.
Speaker 1: You saying that to yourself, Yeah, I mean it's an
Speaker 1: internal dialogue. You're not saying it out loud. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't help matters. It doesn't help turn off your brain
Speaker 1: to berate yourself or your inability to get to sleep
Speaker 1: at a decent hour.
Speaker 3: They do say those sleep trackers can put you on
Speaker 3: a slippery slope. You pay too much attention to the
Speaker 3: details like your duration, your sleep scores various devices doesn't
Speaker 3: have any clear clinical validation, and if you worry about
Speaker 3: those scores and various stages of your sleep, that just
Speaker 3: leads to more anxiety worse sleep.
Speaker 1: Are we both doing the DCC kick routine right now?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I wasn't, oh until you said that, but look at
Speaker 3: me now.
Speaker 2: I did. For a while.
Speaker 3: I pulled up an app that would you put your
Speaker 3: phone close to your bed kind of thing, and it
Speaker 3: would measure just through your the sounds, it would measure
Speaker 3: your breathing. It would tell you when you were in
Speaker 3: a deeper rim cycle of sleep and how active you
Speaker 3: were if you're flip and flop it overnight. And I
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a couple of things that obviously that
Speaker 3: you find out very quickly, which is you have a
Speaker 3: limit if it comes to alcohol, if you're a regular
Speaker 3: and biber of some kind that will jack up your
Speaker 3: sleep to no end. If you think about those, you
Speaker 3: know you wake up. It's not just that you wake
Speaker 3: up hungover.
Speaker 1: Now you wake up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: It's like the alcohol wake up call. Yeah, right, like
Speaker 1: two in the morning, something like that.
Speaker 3: And people don't recognize that until they go back I mean,
Speaker 3: that's one of the things that these sleep trackers can do,
Speaker 3: or one of those rings or the bands or whatever
Speaker 3: is that you can cap. You can keep track of
Speaker 3: what you're doing the night before. So you go back
Speaker 3: and you go oh oh. I realized that my Saturday
Speaker 3: into Sunday was awful because on Saturday I was drinking
Speaker 3: at four o'clock in the air, Nickers Bar, Snickers Bar
Speaker 3: at nine forty five, and went to bed at nine
Speaker 3: point fifty.
Speaker 1: Did that snickerbar survive the weekend?
Speaker 2: Yes, mostly because I wasn't home hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but today's a new day.
Speaker 3: Don't don't tempt me. I'm waiting for it to rain
Speaker 3: a little bit so that I can. I haven't run
Speaker 3: in the rain a long time. There's something very relaxing
Speaker 3: about that for me.
Speaker 1: Really, do do you put on any headwear or you
Speaker 1: just raw dog it?
Speaker 3: Well, it's not forty degrees it's still sixty five degrees outside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you get your hair wet.
Speaker 2: My hair wet.
Speaker 1: I know you don't like your hair wet because you
Speaker 1: blow dry it.
Speaker 2: That's has nothing to do with whether I like my
Speaker 2: hair wet.
Speaker 1: Why are you yelling?
Speaker 3: I don't know you're just making stories up now about
Speaker 3: my personal hair care.
Speaker 1: Don't you remember last week's yeah, discussion about the.
Speaker 3: Blow dryer yeah, and the guy telling me that a
Speaker 3: towel gets it more dry than a hair dryer.
Speaker 1: You're still yelling.
Speaker 2: I'm not yelling.
Speaker 1: Anymore, mister vander Gilder.
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