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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of stories that we are following today.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of people found dead in northern California because

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<v Speaker 3>of that atmospheric river that dumped a record amount of

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<v Speaker 3>rain over the weekend, caused rivers and creeks to overflow.

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<v Speaker 3>Both deaths reported in Sonoma County. About twenty inches of

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<v Speaker 3>rain over three days.

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<v Speaker 1>Or as my friends and I call it, November in

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<v Speaker 1>northern California.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they said that they got November's worth of rain

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<v Speaker 3>in three days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which seems like a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see the video of TD Jake's the pastor no,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's I know you weren't watching his service yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was on stage at his church in I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's called Potter's House in Dallas, and he's praying,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's sitting in a little stool and right at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of his prayer, he just stops moving.

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<v Speaker 2>Must from.

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<v Speaker 4>Well going peace.

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<v Speaker 5>The microphone kind of falls away from his hand or

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<v Speaker 5>his arm falls away from his mouth, I should say,

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<v Speaker 5>and he starts convulsing a little bit, but he doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>fall off the stage, which was crazy because he's just

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<v Speaker 5>sitting on a stool and ten twelve people immediately rush

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<v Speaker 5>onto the stage and get him.

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<v Speaker 3>The official statement from Potter's house from the church is

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<v Speaker 3>that he experienced a slight health incident that he received

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<v Speaker 3>immediate medical attention following his hour long sermon that he

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<v Speaker 3>had given.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was right at the end of his sermon.

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<v Speaker 1>So it sounds like a stroke or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but then they're very careful to say it's simply

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<v Speaker 3>a slight health incident.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, all right, swamp watch swamp hard.

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<v Speaker 2>The government doesn't work, man. It is like in reality TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooting co was a bad news, always.

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<v Speaker 3>A pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>A town hall too, clearly built on a swamp and

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<v Speaker 5>in so many ways still a swamp.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a batch of malarkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody said, drained the swamp.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Oh, that's so hell keep happens, you know

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<v Speaker 2>the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a big news is that Jack Smith is asking

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<v Speaker 3>permission from the court to abandon a couple of federal

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<v Speaker 3>cases against President elect Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>This could be at least two of the lengthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Historic investigations that never make it to trial and may

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<v Speaker 3>never see the inside of a courtroom again.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump phased four felony charges in connection with his efforts

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<v Speaker 1>to overturn the presidential election loss in twenty twenty, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>culminating with the attack at the Capitol, Conspiracy to defraud

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction

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<v Speaker 1>of an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>against to rights. That was a new one for me.

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<v Speaker 3>There's two filings here. One of them, Smith asked Judge

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<v Speaker 3>Tanya Chukun to dismiss the federal election interference charges that

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<v Speaker 3>you were referring to, saying that he stands fully behind

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<v Speaker 3>the allegations in the indictment, but says the Justice Department's

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<v Speaker 3>guidelines make it clear that he could not prosecute a

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<v Speaker 3>sitting president. About an hour after that, just a short

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<v Speaker 3>time ago, he filed a separate motion in the US

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<v Speaker 3>Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit down in the

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<v Speaker 3>Southern part of the United States, asking to drop Trump

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<v Speaker 3>as a co defendant from the Special Council's appeal of

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<v Speaker 3>a ruling in the classified Documents case that judge in

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<v Speaker 3>that case, Aileen Cannon had dismissed the indictment, breaking with

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<v Speaker 3>legal precedent to agree with Trump's lawyers that Smith was

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<v Speaker 3>unlawfully appointed. Again, not the details of the case, but

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<v Speaker 3>unlawful prosecution. He was, of course accused in that case

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<v Speaker 3>of hoarding classified documents down at mar A Lago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what is next for Kamala Harris. She left for

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<v Speaker 1>a Hawaiian vacation. She is searching, her aid say, for

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<v Speaker 1>the next steps in her political career after losing the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Former Harris aid Brian Brocon told Politico She's not someone

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<v Speaker 1>who makes rash decisions. She takes sometimes a painfully long

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<v Speaker 1>you she has no idea what her next move is.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean it's one of those that a politician

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<v Speaker 3>in that at that level. I mean, she ran for president,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a rarefied air.

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<v Speaker 1>She could run for governor here at California. Another presidential

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<v Speaker 1>run could be on the table. I thought that there

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<v Speaker 1>was no possibility of that. However, that chunk of Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>that came out forty one percent in that poll last

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty eight, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Wonder how much of that is just recency bias. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>her name had been plastered around for one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>seven days, you know, longer than that, but one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's you'd have to give that one a

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<v Speaker 3>few months, give it six months, and ask that question

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<v Speaker 3>again of what you want Kamala Harris to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just forget, I mean, don't forget. She ran

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<v Speaker 1>in that full length the Democratic primary. She didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it long enough to the Iowa caucus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she got zero votes in either prime.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people around her spoke out during her mad

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<v Speaker 1>dash to the White House. You didn't see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people come to her defense and talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful she is. You know, it doesn't seem like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of popularity even in her inner circle. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was something that was reported for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>about her aids and the exodus from the office, or

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<v Speaker 1>her bad temper, things like that. Not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of popularity points Well you might need, Glinda.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes back to, you know, this unfortunate pattern that

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<v Speaker 3>probably thirty or forty years, where it much more so

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<v Speaker 3>in the last few election cycles. We're not voting for

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<v Speaker 3>the people that we support, We're voting against the other person.

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<v Speaker 1>And money is not moving the needle the way it

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<v Speaker 1>has historically. One point five billion dollars in fifteen weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing to show for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, she was making progress in the polls, but

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<v Speaker 3>the polls were wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just an it's it is a strange, strange phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing happened today that we'll play when we come back,

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<v Speaker 3>the presidential pardoning of the Turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, for the love, I heard it in Amy's News

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<v Speaker 1>and I got very uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't get better when I play the longer version either.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Chargers hosting the Ravens out at so far.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where Shannon is right now, get ready for the

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<v Speaker 3>latest Harball Bowl. Not quite as interesting or exciting as

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<v Speaker 3>the last one, but still always fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, this has a big, big time

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<v Speaker 1>feel between these two days. These two teams tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like you said, they're both playoff bound, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this season ended today, they would both be in

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason. Yes, I mean, who knows what's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>down the stretch. A lot of football left to play,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are two of the teams being talked about

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<v Speaker 1>as power as the powerful ones in the AFC. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Justin Herbert what he's

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<v Speaker 1>been able to do. He's got the most twenty plus

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<v Speaker 1>yard touchdown passes. The air attack tonight could be insane.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Justin Herbert could put on a freaking show

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<v Speaker 1>tonight with the way that that Baltimore pass defense is struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see that's.

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<v Speaker 2>A It'll still be fun. I think you're excited.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean it'll still be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll still be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the game of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to get angry. Look at you, you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting angry.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said Justin Herbert might on a great show,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, it'll still be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll still be fun if he does that. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>eat anything today yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Have I add some corn chips? I have an incrustables

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<v Speaker 2>I just know that sometimes you get angry when you haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not angry. It doesn't sound like it's not making

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<v Speaker 3>One of the most common prescription drugs could be putting

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<v Speaker 3>you at higher risk for losing bone density.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it is not.

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<v Speaker 3>Study from Johns Hopkins found that people who have been

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<v Speaker 3>taking the drug level thyroxine that's what I take, known

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<v Speaker 3>most often as synthroid, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What I take every day. I've taken it my whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>More likely to lose a larger amount of bone tissue

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<v Speaker 3>than people not taking it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have noticed that my bone density has not been

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<v Speaker 1>what it once was. Thank you for a chi check

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<v Speaker 1>your bone density. No, I'm just kidding. I've just that

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<v Speaker 1>just happens as you get older, you know. Austin horosis

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<v Speaker 1>sets In the bizarre story at Laxcept, the dad that

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<v Speaker 1>and the family came out here and has had this

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<v Speaker 1>big kind of media push to rally around finding this

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<v Speaker 1>woman and to me, it seems like she's thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>years old. She's just out there living her life. She

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to talk to this family. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the dad turns up dead and then it turns out

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<v Speaker 3>They're saying, yeah, not something is going on. You made

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<v Speaker 3>the point earlier that it will find out more information.

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<v Speaker 3>And I wonder if it's just that this is a

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry Hannah, but the family.

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<v Speaker 2>May have issues going on.

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<v Speaker 3>The big deal out of DC Special counsel Jack Smith

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<v Speaker 3>dropping the federal election subversion case and be mishandling classified

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<v Speaker 3>documents cases against President Alex Trump trying to dismiss these

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<v Speaker 3>would fire Jack Smith when he retakes office. Jack Smith wrote,

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<v Speaker 3>the Justice Department's position is that the constitution requires that

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<v Speaker 3>this case be dismissed before the defendant is inaugurated, so

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<v Speaker 3>that the outcome is not based on the merits or

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<v Speaker 3>the strength of a case against the defendant, but basically

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<v Speaker 3>just that it's the long standing policy of the DJ

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't prosecute sitting presidents.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about the term.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a Thanksgiving tradition. It's funny, it's goofy. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>way to humanize the president, whoever it might be. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a goofy. I don't know, it's a goofy

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<v Speaker 3>Monday in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes on a sadness to me this year, just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like the only thing that Biden kind of

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<v Speaker 1>comes to Ukraine and Russia. But he can't and do

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<v Speaker 3>And then over the weekend, I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 3>was Saturday Sunday, they've already thrown him a goodbye party,

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<v Speaker 3>like an end of the term party. Well, anyway, here

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<v Speaker 3>this was from this morning's Turkey Pardon.

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<v Speaker 4>Now he was nine year old son Grant. They've raised

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<v Speaker 4>two special guests for honoring today, Peach and Blossom. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>break Peach up.

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<v Speaker 1>To join us. Oh no, is he gonna talk to me?

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<v Speaker 4>Telly? Peach weighs about forty two pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's try to make some fun turkey jokes.

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<v Speaker 4>And why do you say peach? Oh, peach Megan last

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<v Speaker 4>man to plea here. The two turkeys are named after

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<v Speaker 4>a Delaware state flower, the peace blossom. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>Delaware has a long history of growing peaches. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>the peach pie in our state is one of my

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<v Speaker 4>favorites of state dessert. And peach blossom flowers also symbolized

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<v Speaker 4>as the resilience, which is quite frankly fitting for today.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a joke.

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<v Speaker 4>This White House tradition began when turkey was resented to

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<v Speaker 4>President Truman and that president, then President George HW. Bush

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<v Speaker 4>began partning turkeys in the last four years out of

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<v Speaker 4>the order to continue that tradition by pardoning peanut butter

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<v Speaker 4>and jelly chocolate chip, Oh God, Liberty and bell and

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<v Speaker 4>today p JM. Blossom.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the context of three.

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<v Speaker 4>Birds in the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just in the context of we know about about

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>He's eighty two.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I can say that he was at the

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<v Speaker 1>Truman and it was a joke, but he was with us,

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<v Speaker 1>he was alive, he was a wild he was a child.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was there, but it was definitely, we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Also keeping our hearts. Oh, who have lost so much?

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<v Speaker 4>Who will have an EMPTYCD at the Thanksgiving dinner table

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<v Speaker 4>tonight or Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Or whenever you do it, wheneverything's giving?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we not? Can we just not?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is he talking about the dead? People? Just in general?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>He was.

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<v Speaker 3>He was honoring members of the military who are not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be able to do Thanksgiving with their families,

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<v Speaker 3>but also anybody who had lost a loved one over

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<v Speaker 3>the course of the last year, since the last Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he was talking to me, if that's who you're asked.

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<v Speaker 1>He was talking to me, I thought, sorry, go ahead, nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's something going on in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like a vacuum type machine. I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, you don't know what a vacuum sounds like.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, basically I can't remember the last time I operated

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<v Speaker 1>a vacuum. I have a roomba.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you have people for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Color Helen, because she runs into stuff she can't That

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<v Speaker 1>is mean? What do you mean? That's mean?

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<v Speaker 3>The stories that we are following right here on Gary

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<v Speaker 3>and Shannon Jack Smith Special Council is asking permission from

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<v Speaker 3>US courts now to abandon two of the federal cases

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<v Speaker 3>against President elect Trump, probably coming bringing to an end

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of the investigations that never actually made it

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<v Speaker 3>to trial. So first thing this morning, he asked the

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<v Speaker 3>district Judge Tanya Chutekun to dismiss the federal election interference

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<v Speaker 3>charges brought in. DC said he does stand behind the

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<v Speaker 3>allegations of the indictment, but says the Justice Department guideline

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<v Speaker 3>makes it clear that he could not prosecute a sitting president.

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<v Speaker 3>About an hour after that, he made a separate motion

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<v Speaker 3>to the Eleventh Circuit asking to drop Trump as one

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<v Speaker 3>of the co defendants from the Special Council's appeal of

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<v Speaker 3>a ruling in the classified documents case. That one was

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<v Speaker 3>dismissed by Judge Aileen Cannon because it basically it agrees

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<v Speaker 3>she agreed with Trump's lawyers that the special counsel in

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<v Speaker 3>that case was unlawfully appointed. So good Thanksgiving week news

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<v Speaker 3>for the incoming president.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised now we're just labeling this behavior this behavioral pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that we would have named it a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago, since that this is not really anything new,

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<v Speaker 1>but now we have a word for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Fubbing, fubbing, fubbing, phu, fubbing, bb ing. It is fubbing

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<v Speaker 3>phone snubbing.

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<v Speaker 1>They say it's an insidious habit that can hurt your relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true, Well you go on and talk about I

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<v Speaker 3>don't mean you. Someone goes on and talks about something

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<v Speaker 3>only to look up and realize the person that you've

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<v Speaker 3>been talking to has not been paying attention to you.

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<v Speaker 2>They've snubbed you by looking at the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my least favorite things is when you call

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<v Speaker 1>somebody on it or stop talking to highlight the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you think they're not listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and they just wait in silence until.

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<v Speaker 1>They say what, I'm listening, And it's like, okay, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but are you really? And also can't I get some

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<v Speaker 1>undifided attention up in here?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you are needy? Fubbing can range be a range

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<v Speaker 3>of different behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't need to have blanket undivided attention, but for like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple minutes while I'm trying to make some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of point.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people say it's just glancing at your phone in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of a conversation, right, It might be checking

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<v Speaker 3>your phone when the conversation stalls out a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>or just even having your phone nearby and reacting any

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<v Speaker 3>moment that thing pings or dings or bongs or dongs

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super guilty of this, but I'm aware of it,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is important. I'm aware of it to

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<v Speaker 1>where I don't want to do it as much, nearly

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I don't want to do it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I definitely don't want to do it nearly as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I catch myself doing it. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>some people lack the awareness that this is a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>or that it's rude, or they don't perceive it as

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<v Speaker 1>rude because everyone's just on their phones all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to the elevator at work last week

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<v Speaker 1>and realized I was looking down at my phone, and

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<v Speaker 1>if someone comes out of the elevator and it walks

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<v Speaker 1>past me, and I felt kind of bad, like why

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't I a human and made eye contact with that

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<v Speaker 1>person and said good morning instead of just continuing to

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<v Speaker 1>look down at my phone despite them existing. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that not everybody. You don't need to say good morning

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone you encounter at the elevator thing. But it

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<v Speaker 1>even hit me in that moment, like, look at me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those Wally people. I just have my

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<v Speaker 1>head in my phone instead of having a conversation or

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasantry.

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<v Speaker 2>Wally people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the movie that you reference.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Chambers is a Board certified Couple and Family psychologists,

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<v Speaker 3>chief academic officer at the Family Institute at Northwestern University

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<v Speaker 3>and says that this really does have an impact, and

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<v Speaker 3>for most couples it's pretty easy issue to fix, especially

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<v Speaker 3>if you see it happening. I mean, if you see

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<v Speaker 3>it and it's a problem that you should be able

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<v Speaker 3>to do something about it. A couple people have suggested

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<v Speaker 3>just some starter questions, so what rules do we have

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<v Speaker 3>when we talk to others? Now, some of it sounds

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<v Speaker 3>a little childish, but in terms of setting some of

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<v Speaker 3>the really basic of foundational rules about rules, not the

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<v Speaker 3>right word guidelines, perhaps where you would say to your

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<v Speaker 3>significant other, Hey, I know this is a problem for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do my best, So feel free to

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<v Speaker 3>call me out on it if you feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not paying attention to you because I'm looking.

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<v Speaker 2>At my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is is that you know, you use your

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<v Speaker 1>phone for so many things, use it to google things,

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<v Speaker 1>You look at it for your calendar, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it for you know, what you've got coming up this week,

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<v Speaker 1>You look at it for news items. We get these alerts.

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<v Speaker 1>So this just happened, and you click on it and

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<v Speaker 1>you're reading through. But what it comes across is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're choosing to give attention to somebody else versus the

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<v Speaker 1>person that you are face to face.

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<v Speaker 2>With, right even if it's even if it's momentary.

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<v Speaker 1>To the exclusion of whoever you're with.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's an awful thing to be on the

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<v Speaker 3>receiving end of that. If you're saying something and you're

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<v Speaker 3>telling a story. Granted, I know mine can get boring

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<v Speaker 3>at times, but if somebody immediately would rather look at

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<v Speaker 3>the the alert that they got from Instagram as opposed

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<v Speaker 3>to me finishing my very fun and interesting story, it hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>You just went from boring to fun and interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, I get it. I know they said.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like you can. You're not going to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>your phone altogether, but just being aware of it, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like putting it in another room or something is

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<v Speaker 1>something that I need to do better.

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<v Speaker 3>At There's one suggestion that I think is pretty funny,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is maybe narrate what you're doing, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but then it's like, doth protest too much? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking up what Jack Smith did today because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know the legal ramifications and if this has

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<v Speaker 1>ever happened in history, and you know, you think about Nixon,

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<v Speaker 1>and then by the way, Nixon, when did that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, no one wants to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>Your train of thought, my train of thought. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>crazy train. People tend to put their phones face down

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<v Speaker 3>and then only pick them up for a moment or two,

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<v Speaker 3>and that can feel unintentionally secretive. So they said for

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<v Speaker 3>that reason, it might help narrate what you're doing. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're depositing a mobile check, you're replying to a work email,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I do that sometimes when I'll remember to oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to deposit that check, or I forgot to write

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<v Speaker 1>back to my boss or whatever, and I'll say like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's and I think that's perfectly acceptable. It's that

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<v Speaker 3>when you sit down to dinner and you're at a

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<v Speaker 3>continue to do that. That's when it becomes the issue,

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<v Speaker 3>because people like you said you can even be aware

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<v Speaker 3>to the temptation to pick up your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>forgot my laptop charger as well, so that has died.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will be for the next hour and change

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<v Speaker 1>of flubbing. You can't see me, but I'm not really flubbing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just am looking up stuff on the phone that

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, just fubbing. There's no l in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, it's not flbbing, it's fubbing. Fubbing that makes

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<v Speaker 1>it worse.

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<v Speaker 2>I no, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who came up with that and why

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<v Speaker 3>they think that that would be. But maybe, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>paying at if you name it something that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, maybe you don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh first place? Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The big story today politically, Jack Smith, special counsel, was

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<v Speaker 3>the one who brought a paraphelony cases against Trump when

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<v Speaker 3>accusing him of attempting to overturn the election in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one, accusing him of illegally retaining classified documents. Moved

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<v Speaker 3>to both to drop both sets of charges against him. Today,

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<v Speaker 3>he cited the Justice Department policy that forbids pursuing prosecutions

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<v Speaker 3>against sitting presidents. So that's those things appear to be

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<v Speaker 3>dead for the most part. We'll see if they ever

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<v Speaker 3>get picked back up. A couple of people died in

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<v Speaker 3>northern California after the storys rolled through over the last

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<v Speaker 3>several days, both of them up in Sonoma County. One

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<v Speaker 3>of them was found in a car after having tried

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<v Speaker 3>to cross a flooded stream near Gernville. Another one was

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<v Speaker 3>found floating in a creek. I'm not quite sure what

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<v Speaker 3>happened to either one of them specifically, but they said

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<v Speaker 3>that in parts of Sonoma County they received twenty inches

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<v Speaker 3>of rain over three days.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, the dream of perfect sleep may be making you

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<v Speaker 1>an insomniac. All of this attention to how much sleep

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<v Speaker 1>am I getting? What does my aura ring tell me?

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<v Speaker 1>The concept of sleep maxing is all over TikTok. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>it includes some extreme measures like drinking a magnesium cocktail

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<v Speaker 1>before bed or using a nasal dilator to perfect your breathing.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that.

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<v Speaker 3>You stick a finger in your nose to clean them

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<v Speaker 3>out a little bit before you go to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to yoga with Petros over the weekend at

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<v Speaker 1>his sister's studio in Torrance, and he is a He

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<v Speaker 1>is a He breathes very well, very audibly. I was

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<v Speaker 1>wondering what his sleep situation is because he's such a

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<v Speaker 1>loud breather, and then I remembered that he did have

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<v Speaker 1>like a sleep machine he.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to use years ago, an apnea machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but man, that's some strong breathing.

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<v Speaker 3>Regular routine is really the best thing they say for you. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, limit your your alcohol intake, et cetera, especially

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<v Speaker 3>right before bed, and don't eat right before bed. They said,

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<v Speaker 3>channel your inner child. Ideally you want to go to

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<v Speaker 3>bed thinking like a five or six year old. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't go to bed worrying about the rent or mortgage.

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<v Speaker 3>They stay in the moment, they feel safe, they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have these runaway thoughts. It's important to put anything that's

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<v Speaker 3>worrying you aside until tomorrow when you get into bed.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, a lot of that has to do with reading, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get you some maybe some stuffed animals or.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that's not that that would not help me at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They would be watching it make you feel like a

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<v Speaker 1>five year old like you is right next to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I never had a mister fluffles.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a stuffed animal child either, and.

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<v Speaker 3>They would they would they would creep me out and

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<v Speaker 3>I would feel like they were coming after me, and

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<v Speaker 3>the really, oh, I'd hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have a fear of stuff animals.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not that I have a fear, it's that

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't want them around when I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, this is all making a lot of sense now.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, talk to a doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>If your sleep doesn't improve, talk to your health care

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<v Speaker 3>provider may refer you to a sleep specialist. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the University of Arkansas says, be gentle with yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, what works best for.

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<v Speaker 3>Me now is a routine that emphasizes relaxation without strict rules.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I throw on the com app to go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>They have like some sleep meditations or sleep stories, And

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<v Speaker 1>it is good advice to be gentle with yourself. If

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<v Speaker 1>you start beating yourself up, you know, right before you

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<v Speaker 1>go to bed, it's not going to help you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you always do this. You ate too late and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't turn off your head and that gets you nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You saying that to yourself, Yeah, I mean it's an

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<v Speaker 1>internal dialogue. You're not saying it out loud. But that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't help matters. It doesn't help turn off your brain

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<v Speaker 1>to berate yourself or your inability to get to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>at a decent hour.

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<v Speaker 3>They do say those sleep trackers can put you on

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<v Speaker 3>a slippery slope. You pay too much attention to the

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<v Speaker 3>details like your duration, your sleep scores various devices doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have any clear clinical validation, and if you worry about

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<v Speaker 3>those scores and various stages of your sleep, that just

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<v Speaker 3>leads to more anxiety worse sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we both doing the DCC kick routine right now?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't, oh until you said that, but look at

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<v Speaker 3>me now.

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<v Speaker 2>I did. For a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I pulled up an app that would you put your

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<v Speaker 3>phone close to your bed kind of thing, and it

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<v Speaker 3>would measure just through your the sounds, it would measure

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<v Speaker 3>your breathing. It would tell you when you were in

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<v Speaker 3>a deeper rim cycle of sleep and how active you

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<v Speaker 3>were if you're flip and flop it overnight. And I

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's a couple of things that obviously that

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<v Speaker 3>you find out very quickly, which is you have a

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<v Speaker 3>limit if it comes to alcohol, if you're a regular

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<v Speaker 3>and biber of some kind that will jack up your

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<v Speaker 3>sleep to no end. If you think about those, you

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<v Speaker 3>know you wake up. It's not just that you wake

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<v Speaker 3>up hungover.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you wake up in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the alcohol wake up call. Yeah, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>two in the morning, something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And people don't recognize that until they go back I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one of the things that these sleep trackers can do,

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<v Speaker 3>or one of those rings or the bands or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>is that you can cap. You can keep track of

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<v Speaker 3>what you're doing the night before. So you go back

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<v Speaker 3>and you go oh oh. I realized that my Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>into Sunday was awful because on Saturday I was drinking

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<v Speaker 3>at four o'clock in the air, Nickers Bar, Snickers Bar

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<v Speaker 3>at nine forty five, and went to bed at nine

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<v Speaker 3>point fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that snickerbar survive the weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, mostly because I wasn't home hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but today's a new day.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't don't tempt me. I'm waiting for it to rain

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit so that I can. I haven't run

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<v Speaker 3>in the rain a long time. There's something very relaxing

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<v Speaker 3>about that for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, do do you put on any headwear or you

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<v Speaker 1>just raw dog it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not forty degrees it's still sixty five degrees outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but then you get your hair wet.

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<v Speaker 2>My hair wet.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you don't like your hair wet because you

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<v Speaker 1>blow dry it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's has nothing to do with whether I like my

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<v Speaker 2>hair wet.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you yelling?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know you're just making stories up now about

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<v Speaker 3>my personal hair care.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you remember last week's yeah, discussion about the.

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<v Speaker 3>Blow dryer yeah, and the guy telling me that a

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<v Speaker 3>towel gets it more dry than a hair dryer.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still yelling.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not yelling.

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<v Speaker 1>Anymore, mister vander Gilder.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, we got our big, huge, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>Shannon Show. You can always hear us live on KFI

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