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<v Speaker 1>Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence, and is

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<v Speaker 1>not intended for all audiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you guys show me the picture of her,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe the sexual stuff, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>believe that he had done anything equal to her.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, know what if he did this? Stop buying.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of the stories we tell here on Soor and

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<v Speaker 5>Scale will make you sick. They'll tug at your heartstrings,

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<v Speaker 5>They'll change your whole perspective on humanity. They're the ones

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<v Speaker 5>you can't get over, the ones you can't really shake,

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<v Speaker 5>and they stay with you for a long time. The

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<v Speaker 5>story we're about to tell you is one of them.

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<v Speaker 5>This is part one of a two part series. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>Nine one one.

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<v Speaker 6>What's the location of your emergency?

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<v Speaker 5>The call is coming out of kissing Me, Florida in

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<v Speaker 5>a quiet suburb in Pocket near Hunter's Creek Middle.

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<v Speaker 6>School, Police, fire or medical police?

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<v Speaker 7>Possibly, I'm reporting a missing child?

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<v Speaker 6>And is she white, black or Hispanic?

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<v Speaker 7>She's white, kay and dirty blonde hair, blue eyes.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, hold on with me here, okay, And then how

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<v Speaker 6>long has it been though, since you guys have last

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<v Speaker 6>seen her?

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<v Speaker 7>Since this morning? She was dropped off at school this morning,

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<v Speaker 7>and apparently she never showed up. We called everyone we knew,

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<v Speaker 7>no one had seen her. She was less seen at

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<v Speaker 7>the church next to Hunter's Creek Middle School. I think

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<v Speaker 7>it's called Peace Church.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if.

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<v Speaker 7>He's back to dress.

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<v Speaker 5>She was dropped off that morning, just steps away from

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<v Speaker 5>the school, but she never made it inside. By that afternoon,

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<v Speaker 5>no one had seen her, not her friends, not her teachers,

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<v Speaker 5>not a single person at the school she was dropped

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<v Speaker 5>off then just disappeared. Her name was Madeline Soda and

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<v Speaker 5>she was just thirteen years old. This was her best friend.

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<v Speaker 8>She came to school in the middle of the year

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<v Speaker 8>in fourth grade. She was like the new kid, so

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<v Speaker 8>like everybody kind of just picked on her stuff. She

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<v Speaker 8>was in a different class to me.

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<v Speaker 1>She had picked on a lot by people like.

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<v Speaker 8>That, like nobody really liked and stuff. And then one

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<v Speaker 8>day I kind of like went up to.

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<v Speaker 1>Her and I was like, Hey, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 8>And then we got to know each other ever since,

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<v Speaker 8>I just been best friends.

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<v Speaker 5>As best friends, she and Maddie talked every day.

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<v Speaker 9>Like every single day.

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<v Speaker 8>She texted me every morning, I wake up and I

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<v Speaker 8>was gonna text her mind unless she but usually I

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<v Speaker 8>thought it was fitchy yesterday when she didn't text me

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<v Speaker 8>at all, because usually even if justn't going to school

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<v Speaker 8>that day, she texted me like the night or the

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<v Speaker 8>date of like she like up brightly just so like

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<v Speaker 8>text me like, hey, I'm.

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<v Speaker 9>Not going to school. And she didn't yesterday.

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<v Speaker 8>But I think everything of it except thought she like,

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<v Speaker 8>oh she like.

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<v Speaker 10>S left it or something.

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<v Speaker 5>That morning, February twenty sixth, twenty twenty four, was supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to be routine, a ride to school, maybe breakfast on

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<v Speaker 5>the way. It was the kind of morning you don't

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<v Speaker 5>think twice about until something goes horribly wrong. That morning,

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<v Speaker 5>her mother's boyfriend, Stephen Stearns, drove her to school.

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<v Speaker 8>Stephanie who all him and she loved him.

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<v Speaker 9>They were really close.

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<v Speaker 5>They left earlier than usual. They had time to spare

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<v Speaker 5>and talked about stopping for breakfast at McDonald's, but she

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<v Speaker 5>changed her mind, as little kids do. She was sleepy,

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<v Speaker 5>but she also just wanted to get to school early

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<v Speaker 5>to hang out with her friends. Instead of waiting in

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<v Speaker 5>the insufferable car line, she asked to be dropped off

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<v Speaker 5>about a block away. She would walk the rest of

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<v Speaker 5>the way to find her friends. Apparently, no matter who

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<v Speaker 5>was taking her to school, Maddy preferred to be dropped

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<v Speaker 5>off in the near vicinity. This was usually at the

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<v Speaker 5>church across the street, where a lot of parents dropped

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<v Speaker 5>off their kids to avoid the long lines. That morning,

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<v Speaker 5>the car pulled over, Maddie got out and started walking.

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<v Speaker 7>They're going to the school to double text and everything.

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<v Speaker 7>But from what we know, she wasn't there, so they

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<v Speaker 7>could be back at seem too because it's right.

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<v Speaker 6>Next So that's fine. So if at least one of

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<v Speaker 6>you remains there, though I have to meet with an officer,

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<v Speaker 6>that's more than fine.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Yeah, I'll be here.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be here, Okay, then all right, thank you so much, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'll go ahead and let you goo. We'll be

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<v Speaker 6>out there as quickly as we can.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>When someone goes missing, every second matters. Unfortunately, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>matter how much you want a limited resource like law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 5>If there's no cops available. There's no cops available, what

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<v Speaker 5>do you expect? After years of demonizing law enforcement all

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<v Speaker 5>cops are bastards? You say, yeah, that has a negative

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<v Speaker 5>but opposite effect.

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<v Speaker 9>Duh.

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<v Speaker 7>At LISTADICONI I called that long ago reporting the missing child.

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<v Speaker 7>That it's sort of so howdong the captate here?

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, hold on, let me open up the call. Let's

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<v Speaker 12>say the cost still currently depending. They had the deputies

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<v Speaker 12>respond out there that we don't have any available deputies.

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<v Speaker 12>We still have the call up though, holding.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so so no one's on their way yet, not yet.

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<v Speaker 7>No does it take long set up to respond to

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<v Speaker 7>the call.

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<v Speaker 12>If there's a big emergency in the area and there's

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<v Speaker 12>nobody there's no units available, they put the call on hold,

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<v Speaker 12>but as soon as one becomes available, they respond to

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<v Speaker 12>the next pressing call. I'll go ahead and update them

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<v Speaker 12>for the information.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, thank you, because it's happened on very recently,

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<v Speaker 7>so we just want to everyone here.

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<v Speaker 5>Since eight am, at the same time, her family started

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<v Speaker 5>calling the school, reaching out to teachers to see if

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<v Speaker 5>anyone had seen her, but no one had.

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<v Speaker 13>It was one on any please pior medical.

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<v Speaker 7>No, it's not a medical issue.

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<v Speaker 12>We have a missing child.

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<v Speaker 14>Since this morning.

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<v Speaker 12>We already called three times and the police didn't show

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<v Speaker 12>it up to it because ma'am.

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<v Speaker 13>I see it. There's a wait for a deputy response.

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<v Speaker 12>They haven't. They haven't come here yet.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm wareing, mam.

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<v Speaker 12>I see it.

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<v Speaker 13>It's waiting for a deputy response.

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<v Speaker 12>You're waiting for a deputy response, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 6>And how long what do we need to wait?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a child missing.

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<v Speaker 13>I understand it, man, but I'm just not able to

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<v Speaker 13>give out eta. I don't know when they'll be.

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<v Speaker 6>There, So how long do we need to wait? An

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<v Speaker 6>emergency and we.

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<v Speaker 13>Have the information, but it just is they're trying to

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<v Speaker 13>get this someone as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 6>So this is not informant for you guys.

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<v Speaker 13>Really, then we were very busy in the area. Look,

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<v Speaker 13>I understand, and they'll be there something they can, Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't just call nine one one once. They had

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<v Speaker 5>to call three times. The first call came in at

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<v Speaker 5>around four forty three pm, then again at five sixteen,

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<v Speaker 5>and then another one at seven twenty one. It took

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<v Speaker 5>officers almost three hours to arrive, and they get there

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<v Speaker 5>until seven thirty seven pm. Deputy logs show the call

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<v Speaker 5>sat waiting because no deputies were available. Units were tied

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<v Speaker 5>up with other emergencies and this one had to wait

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<v Speaker 5>its turn. But before you blame dispatchers, understand that the

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<v Speaker 5>people answering those calls weren't the ones heading out to search.

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<v Speaker 5>They were taking information and waiting for someone in the

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<v Speaker 5>field to clear. They did their jobs correctly by the book,

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<v Speaker 5>exactly as instructed. Mattie's mother was later told there were

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<v Speaker 5>other missing children that day. Seems like an epidemic, right,

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<v Speaker 5>resources were stretched thin. In fact, nearly one thousand children

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<v Speaker 5>are reported missing in the United States every day. That

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<v Speaker 5>works out to about one child every ninety seconds, or

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<v Speaker 5>roughly three hundred and fifty thousand children under eighteen each year.

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<v Speaker 5>Think about that for just a second. That's roughly the

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<v Speaker 5>capacity of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. So yeah, an Indianapolis

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<v Speaker 5>Motor Speedway's worth a children goes missing every year. But

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<v Speaker 5>to Maddie's parents, family and friends, statistics didn't really matter

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<v Speaker 5>at the moment. This was serious and urgent. This was

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<v Speaker 5>their own daughter. An entire day had now passed with

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<v Speaker 5>no one seeing Maddie.

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<v Speaker 6>Does she have a cell phone that she might keep

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<v Speaker 6>on her person?

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<v Speaker 7>She does it, She had when she looked at home

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<v Speaker 7>conveniently today.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, there was no surprise that Maddie left her phone

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<v Speaker 5>at home. This was a common occurrence and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>just because she was forgetful.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Is she diagnosed with any medical mental conditions at all?

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<v Speaker 7>I know she takes medication for ADHD, and I think

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<v Speaker 7>that I'm pretty sure that.

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<v Speaker 5>At seven thirty seven PM, officers pulled into the condo

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<v Speaker 5>complex and Kissime, where Mattie lived with her mother, Jennifer Soda.

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<v Speaker 5>Also in the home was Jennifer's boyfriend, Stephan Stearns, who

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<v Speaker 5>was frequently there despite an on and off again relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>The unit itself was shared with rooms rented out to

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<v Speaker 5>other women, and the condo was owned by Mattie's grandfather.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a crowded living arrangement, with multiple people coming

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<v Speaker 5>and going in limited space inside the home. By the

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<v Speaker 5>time deputies got there that evening, both Jennifer and Stephan

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<v Speaker 5>were there answering questions and helping officers piece together the

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<v Speaker 5>last known details from that morning. Officers started with the basics,

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<v Speaker 5>documenting what Maddie was wearing and establishing a clear timeline.

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<v Speaker 9>Be there, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>So it was dropped off close to school this morning,

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<v Speaker 3>but never wee it.

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<v Speaker 9>I went to the partment to school. I'm sorry once again, ahead, are.

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<v Speaker 10>We looking for another kid, or we have a kid.

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<v Speaker 9>Looking for another one.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I said, an epidemic, especially when Disney World is

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<v Speaker 5>in your backyard.

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<v Speaker 16>So she was supposed to be dropped off high school,

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<v Speaker 16>didn't make it to school, didn't make.

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<v Speaker 17>It to school.

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<v Speaker 4>I went to pick her up from school today and

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<v Speaker 4>she never came out.

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<v Speaker 18>They announced it over the speaker, and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 18>maybe she walked.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, because sometimes she'll walk here to this office.

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<v Speaker 4>I came here, nothing.

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<v Speaker 9>I went back to the school.

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<v Speaker 4>We were closed.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to notice an email from the school thing

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<v Speaker 3>she was absent. But I also messaged her teacher and

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<v Speaker 3>he looked at her entire tends today and saw that

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<v Speaker 3>she was completely not at school today either.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so she never made it.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay. What's her name?

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<v Speaker 4>Madeline?

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<v Speaker 16>M A d E O I an e I'm ade

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<v Speaker 16>out I any any last name?

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<v Speaker 9>Otoya.

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<v Speaker 3>Date of birth February twenty second, two thousand and eleven,

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<v Speaker 16>Oh sorry, twenty second, twenty eleven, thirteen for bred.

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<v Speaker 5>He said it quietly, but Stephan just pointed out that

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<v Speaker 5>Maddie had just turned thirteen. In fact, just the day

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<v Speaker 5>before a Sunday, the family had a birthday party. Her mother, Jennifer,

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<v Speaker 5>and her mother's boyfriend, Stephan, were not there, but her

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<v Speaker 5>best friend was. But on Monday evening back at the scene,

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<v Speaker 5>officers needed to know what Maddie was wearing when she

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<v Speaker 9>Green green, white, cross white, cross blue or black?

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<v Speaker 3>I think black shorts, black shorts, okay, my shorts?

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<v Speaker 9>All right. Do you know she has a friends in area?

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<v Speaker 4>She does, but she doesn't know where they live.

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<v Speaker 9>She doesn't know where she live.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I asked all of them.

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<v Speaker 16>Okay, sometime is this like, did she like have any

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<v Speaker 16>places that you guys know that she would usually be

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<v Speaker 16>at any friend's house, any places that like she used

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<v Speaker 16>to hang out?

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<v Speaker 9>No, not typically okay.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, uh wait one hundred and ten for hundred, hair

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<v Speaker 10>color flung long like that, okay, eye color blue.

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<v Speaker 9>Does she have any marking arn like any scars or.

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<v Speaker 15>Anything distinctive beauty mark on her face.

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<v Speaker 10>On her face, on the face, like below the nose,

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<v Speaker 10>the nose.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, like righting that area there.

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<v Speaker 9>It's it's very distinctive.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd know it if you saw her.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>One officer was talking to Mattie's parents another was speaking

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<v Speaker 5>with staff at the church where she was dropped off.

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<v Speaker 5>That morning, Surveillance showed a child sitting in a parking

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<v Speaker 5>lot for about ten minutes before getting up and walking away.

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<v Speaker 5>After that, the trail disappeared. At that point, investigators were

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<v Speaker 5>still working through possibilities, including one that seemed plausible that

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<v Speaker 5>Maddie may have left on her own.

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<v Speaker 11>It's possible that she came here and sat in the

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<v Speaker 4>For a while.

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<v Speaker 11>HiT's blurry video, but it looks like I was a

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<v Speaker 11>child sitting right there, and she's sitting The people here

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<v Speaker 11>said that they were adamant they see her on the property,

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<v Speaker 11>But like I said, it's a blurry video, and I

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<v Speaker 11>don't see her getting into anybody's car in the video,

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<v Speaker 11>I see you're sitting on property for going to take

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<v Speaker 11>ten minutes and then walking off property. I don't know

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<v Speaker 11>which way she went from there.

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<v Speaker 5>The video was blurred, he said, but clearly he showed

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<v Speaker 5>a child lingering for a bit and then walking away.

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<v Speaker 5>Could it have been Maddie? There were signs, even messages

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<v Speaker 5>and comments about wanting to leave, about going off on

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<v Speaker 5>her own, living in the woods when she turned thirteen.

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<v Speaker 5>Why the Woods why thirteen, You may ask, who knows?

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<v Speaker 5>But when don't we all like to just go off

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<v Speaker 5>the grid from time to time regardless. This half baked

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<v Speaker 5>plan was something she had confided about with her friend.

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<v Speaker 8>We were walking around the bus loop and she was like,

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<v Speaker 8>she was talking about a gator and then she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>Be like so cool to do.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like what.

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<v Speaker 8>She was like, if we like run into the woods,

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<v Speaker 8>like you know that trail we'd the scope.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>She was like, you would be so cool with like

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<v Speaker 8>go there and just think the little house. And I

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<v Speaker 8>was like the woods like with like animals stuff, And

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, where are you going to get this

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<v Speaker 19>Stuff to go this house? And she was like, I

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<v Speaker 19>don't know, if figure it out. And I thought she

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<v Speaker 19>was joking and stuff because she kind of like E

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<v Speaker 19>smiled if you did it, so I thought she was joking,

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<v Speaker 19>but I didn't. I didn't think her seriously.

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<v Speaker 8>And then when I found she was missing, I can

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<v Speaker 8>deposit in my mind and that to my dad, her

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<v Speaker 8>saying if she were to run away, go into the

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<v Speaker 5>If this were true, if she really had planned to leave.

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<v Speaker 5>Then where did she go?

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<v Speaker 9>He dropped her off a block away and drove away.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, did she go to school?

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<v Speaker 9>Was walking in that direction?

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<v Speaker 15>She was rifling through her backpack, sliding, so my thought

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<v Speaker 15>maybe she was just looking for her headphones before she

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<v Speaker 15>kind her walking on. Yeah, but she was just coming,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, shambling over in that direction.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked the same as any.

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<v Speaker 5>Other morning, Okay, But it wasn't just like any other morning.

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<v Speaker 5>On any other morning, Mattie would have been safe in

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<v Speaker 5>school all day, but she wasn't. She would have made

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<v Speaker 5>it home after school like every other day, but she didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Whether Maddie ran away or something far worse happened, the

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<v Speaker 5>truth was that she wasn't just missing. She had vanished.

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<v Speaker 5>She had just turned into a teenager, and now her

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<v Speaker 5>family feared she would never make it to adulthood. Mattie

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<v Speaker 5>Soto had just turned thirteen. She lived in Kissimi, Florida,

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<v Speaker 5>with her mother, Jennifer Soto, in a condo complex near

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<v Speaker 5>her school. On the morning of February twenty sixth, twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four, she was dropped off just a short distance

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<v Speaker 5>from the school, a walk she had made before and

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<v Speaker 5>won that at the time didn't seem unusual, but that

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<v Speaker 5>morning she never made it inside. Hours passed before anyone

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<v Speaker 5>realized something was wrong. Her family made calls to the school,

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<v Speaker 5>then to nine point one. By the time deputies arrived

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<v Speaker 5>that evening, Mattie had already been missing for hours, and

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<v Speaker 5>no one could say where she had gone after getting

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<v Speaker 5>out of the car. At first, there were explanations. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>she left on her own, maybe she wandered off. She

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<v Speaker 5>had allegedly made comments about wanting to leave, about going

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<v Speaker 5>off into the woods. When she turned thirteen. Mattie lived

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<v Speaker 5>with her mother, and she also spent time with her

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<v Speaker 5>grandmother from the time she was about six. Her mother's

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<v Speaker 5>boyfriend was also in the picture. Jennifer and Stephen were

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<v Speaker 5>in an on again, off again relationship for years. For

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<v Speaker 5>the majority of that time, they lived under the same roof.

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<v Speaker 5>According to Jennifer and other family members, Stephan was like

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<v Speaker 5>a dad to Maddie and they had a great relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>But she also had a great relationship with her biological

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<v Speaker 5>dad and her sister, who lived miles away. If she

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<v Speaker 5>didn't take off to live in the woods, maybe she

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<v Speaker 5>took off on a bus or plane to see them.

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<v Speaker 5>Her friend remembered her preoccupation with getting money for her birthday.

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<v Speaker 8>One section thirteen, I'm going to leave this house and

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<v Speaker 8>never come back. Why thirteen Because I think because she

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<v Speaker 8>would always brag. Because I said that I can't wait

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<v Speaker 8>to my birthday and she was like, are you having

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<v Speaker 8>a birthday party? I said no, and she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>I get a home went of money, like five hundred

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<v Speaker 8>and something dollars on my birthday, you know, like that's

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<v Speaker 8>like so much money. And I was like, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 8>I get money, but like not like that. And I

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<v Speaker 8>don't really like having birthday parties.

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<v Speaker 19>To last birthday party, I have so much drama.

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<v Speaker 9>Then she was like okay.

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<v Speaker 8>She would always talk about getting money for her birthday

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<v Speaker 8>and I didn't give her money, and I already had

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<v Speaker 8>given her a gift.

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<v Speaker 4>I brought it to school.

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<v Speaker 8>She kind of got mad that I didn't give her

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<v Speaker 8>any money or anything, and I was like, I spent

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<v Speaker 8>money on this and physically give you any money though.

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<v Speaker 8>And then when we also got there, I was like,

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<v Speaker 8>how many presents did you get? And then she was

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<v Speaker 8>like I barely got any money yet, Like I'm kind

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<v Speaker 8>of mad because I want more money. I think she

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<v Speaker 8>was waiting to turn thirteen. That way she could get

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<v Speaker 8>all with her money and go.

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<v Speaker 4>She got to her sister.

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<v Speaker 8>Her dad is in Washington, DC, and I think her

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<v Speaker 8>sister is too. Her and her sister are close.

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<v Speaker 5>Missing her biological dad and sister weren't the only reasons

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<v Speaker 5>Maddie may have taken off without telling anyone. Her friend

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<v Speaker 5>said she didn't always get along with her mom, and

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<v Speaker 5>she had ADHD and other challenges based something I know.

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<v Speaker 8>I think she kind of just wanted to be free,

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<v Speaker 8>kind of just not live under Like.

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<v Speaker 5>The word mom or mom's rules was redacted, but that's

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<v Speaker 5>a reasonable inference that she didn't necessarily want to live

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<v Speaker 5>under her mom's rules. She had just turned into a teenager.

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<v Speaker 3>Was she like defiant, like didn't like to follow the rules?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>Took her mans if she didn't take her medsin, she's

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<v Speaker 8>like really crazy and she just thinks she just does

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<v Speaker 8>so like impulsive.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>When investigators took a closer look at what actually happened

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<v Speaker 5>that morning, Mattie's disappearance seemed less like a troubled teenager

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<v Speaker 5>looking for escape and more like a vulnerable girl who

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<v Speaker 5>may have been abducted on the morning of Mattie's disappearance,

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<v Speaker 5>Stephan drove her to school. This wasn't unusual. In fact,

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<v Speaker 5>they had a routine for the days he took her

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<v Speaker 5>to school that included stopping at McDonald's. But that day

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<v Speaker 5>was different. Mattie was more lethargic and slept the whole way.

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<v Speaker 5>She refused breakfast twice.

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<v Speaker 15>Woke up around seven seven fifteen somewhere around there. This

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<v Speaker 15>is an early start for us, but she had We

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<v Speaker 15>had talked about getting McDonald's like this beforehand, so we

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<v Speaker 15>wanted to make good time.

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<v Speaker 2>We did make good time.

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<v Speaker 15>We got out the door maybe seven seven five is maybe,

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<v Speaker 15>got over to that area. She was asleep in the

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<v Speaker 15>car most of the time, just snooze until we got there.

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<v Speaker 9>We got to McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 15>We're close to McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you still want it.

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<v Speaker 15>Wasn't interested in the McDonald's anymore, so we continued on

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<v Speaker 15>and she wanted to be dropped off a little down

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<v Speaker 15>the ways from the school. She's got this phase that

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<v Speaker 15>she's been into lately where she was very particularly about

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<v Speaker 15>what car she seemed getting out of in front of

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<v Speaker 15>the school.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, it's an image thing, but that was.

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<v Speaker 15>Sometime probably between eight twenty and eight forty ish, somewhere

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<v Speaker 15>in there. It was along the stretch of the road

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<v Speaker 15>that on the right side has all the communities on

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<v Speaker 15>it before you get to the overpass. You could see

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<v Speaker 15>the overpass from where it was, so it was on

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<v Speaker 15>that side, on that stretch of road, and that's where

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<v Speaker 15>I dropped her off. She said she was going to

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<v Speaker 15>go wait for her friends. Who's going to find them?

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<v Speaker 15>And hang out and wait for her friends. And I

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<v Speaker 15>asked if that was going to be okay. She said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>it's fine. Kids get dropped off early enough as it is.

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<v Speaker 15>It's not totally unusual for that to happen. It's just

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<v Speaker 15>not usually that early that I dropped her off. Two

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<v Speaker 15>school runs every once in a while for her.

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<v Speaker 5>Jennifer was happy to have Stephan in her life. He

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<v Speaker 5>was a huge help to her. He was able to

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<v Speaker 5>give insight to Jennifer about Maddie's ADHD because he too

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<v Speaker 5>had ADHD me. According to Stephan, his ADHD was severe.

434
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<v Speaker 5>But Jennifer had issues of her own, including bipolar disorder,

435
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<v Speaker 5>which she was medicating for. Typically, the medicine would help

436
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<v Speaker 5>regulate her moods and her sleep but at times she'd

437
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<v Speaker 5>forget to take it or her dose needed to be adjusted.

438
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<v Speaker 5>She often didn't sleep well and appreciated that Stephan and

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<v Speaker 5>Maddie had a solid father daughter like relationship and he

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<v Speaker 5>could pick up the slack. In this next clip, take

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<v Speaker 5>particular notice of how she's explaining her behavior that night,

442
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<v Speaker 5>as if she's trying to explain away a question that

443
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<v Speaker 5>hasn't been asked yet.

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<v Speaker 4>I got home are on ten thirty. I started getting

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<v Speaker 4>ready for bed myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I started beating and taking my meds to after take meds.

447
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<v Speaker 3>When I went to take my meds, I realized, oh

448
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<v Speaker 3>my god, I forgot to take my Saturday night's.

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<v Speaker 17>Med which is why I felt so weird, so abnormal,

450
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<v Speaker 17>and not myself. Sunday, while I was at work, everyone

451
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<v Speaker 17>at work nowders. I was acting different and not being

452
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<v Speaker 17>myself like. I couldn't smile in front of the guests.

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<v Speaker 17>I felt this wave of depression that I hadn't felt

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<v Speaker 17>in years. It was my bipolar symptoms coming up again

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<v Speaker 17>that I just I've been medicating.

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<v Speaker 9>Myself for for well.

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<v Speaker 14>Sonny, you took your beds. What meds? If you don't

458
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<v Speaker 14>mind me asking what beds do you take, I'm like, ww,

459
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<v Speaker 14>does it? Can they put you to sleep deep? Does

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<v Speaker 14>it helped you fall asleep? Or is it helped regulate you?

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<v Speaker 14>What kind of happens if you take the beds?

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<v Speaker 4>So they do all of the afolve.

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<v Speaker 3>They make me sleepy, They helped me stay asleep, and

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<v Speaker 3>they help me function so I'm stable all day.

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<v Speaker 4>They only work well if.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a good night's sleep, and if I bet

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<v Speaker 3>in with them the night before when I take them,

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<v Speaker 3>or the night I take them. It's The medication is

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<v Speaker 3>called Giadah. Generic brand is called zig Brazo Dome my mess.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I told him to start getting ready for Bett,

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<v Speaker 3>to start heading upstairs and get ready to do this

472
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<v Speaker 3>old lady of this eleven o'clock has passed for bedtime

473
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<v Speaker 3>she used to go to sleep.

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<v Speaker 5>Even by her own account, when Jennifer did take her medication,

475
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<v Speaker 5>it didn't just help her sleep, It knocked her out.

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<v Speaker 5>She described feeling groggy, disoriented, and sometimes not fully aware

477
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<v Speaker 5>of what had happened the night before. Sleep was very

478
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<v Speaker 5>important to Jennifer in general, so the next morning she

479
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<v Speaker 5>remembered Stephan coming into her room to get the dog

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<v Speaker 5>and take him for a walk before he took Maddie

481
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<v Speaker 5>to school because she needed to sleep in and didn't

482
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<v Speaker 5>want to take her Stephan confirmed that he took the

483
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<v Speaker 5>dog for a walk, and then he said he and

484
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<v Speaker 5>Maddie had an early start. Other than Maddie being excessively

485
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<v Speaker 5>sleepy and not wanting McDonald's, this was a typical trip

486
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<v Speaker 5>to school. Then she just dropped off the radar. Dropping

487
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<v Speaker 5>off the radar wouldn't be as easy for Maddie as

488
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<v Speaker 5>it would for other students. Her teachers were paying attention.

489
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<v Speaker 5>She had an IEP Individualized Education Programmer special ED as

490
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<v Speaker 5>it used to be known.

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<v Speaker 20>She has been in my class all year round. She's

492
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<v Speaker 20>always very sweet, and she's struggles of it. I mean,

493
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<v Speaker 20>all my kids hit kinds of clids, so there are

494
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<v Speaker 20>the students who are struggling. She was on my door

495
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:30.160
<v Speaker 20>decorating team. She was actually chosen to be my student

496
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<v Speaker 20>of the week from two of us ago for helping

497
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:34.759
<v Speaker 20>us win our door decorating competition with our friends. She

498
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<v Speaker 20>had been reading a book a couple months ago and

499
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<v Speaker 20>it had kissing in it, and it was a graphic

500
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:42.759
<v Speaker 20>novel and she was like scandalized that there was a

501
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<v Speaker 20>kissing scene.

502
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 5>Seventh grade was the year sex education was introduced in

503
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<v Speaker 5>this school system, so it wasn't surprising the kids would

504
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<v Speaker 5>make a big deal about a graphic novel. But she

505
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 5>also remembered something Mattie's friends told her after Mattie went missing.

506
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<v Speaker 20>I was shocked when the kids were telling me about

507
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.839
<v Speaker 20>to live in the woods conversation. I was shocked to

508
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<v Speaker 20>hear something like that. She was very excited about her birthday.

509
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<v Speaker 5>She had just been made Student of the week. She

510
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<v Speaker 5>was quiet, she struggled, and she was happy about her birthday.

511
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<v Speaker 5>These were descriptions officers heard over and over, but they

512
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<v Speaker 5>also heard that Maddie had a lot of anxiety, not

513
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<v Speaker 5>just typical worries, but panic attacks. This is the school counselor.

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<v Speaker 21>When she has come to me, it's often been those

515
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<v Speaker 21>feelings of panic. She's come to me in the middle

516
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<v Speaker 21>of class or during lunchtime, just feeling really panicked, kind

517
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<v Speaker 21>of heavy.

518
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<v Speaker 4>Breathing, feeling really overwhelmed.

519
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<v Speaker 21>And when we've had our conversations about what's going on,

520
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:55.759
<v Speaker 21>what's making you feel this way, I've got in responses saying, well,

521
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 21>it's my anxiety. Sometimes I don't know, I'm just really

522
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<v Speaker 21>overstimulated with all that noise in the cafeteria.

523
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<v Speaker 5>But she also talked about things being stressful at home.

524
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.240
<v Speaker 5>Her mother was usually the.

525
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<v Speaker 21>Focal point, and when I pressed about that, it seemed

526
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<v Speaker 21>to be things along the lines of, well, she gets

527
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 21>upset that I'm forgetful or that I don't clean.

528
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<v Speaker 4>My room the way she wants me to, and.

529
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<v Speaker 21>We talked about what that does to affect her, And

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<v Speaker 21>she says, yelling that makes me get over stimulated, and

531
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<v Speaker 21>then I can't respond to her in a way that

532
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<v Speaker 21>she wants me to. So we discussed strategies for kind

533
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<v Speaker 21>of calming herself down.

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<v Speaker 5>No when at school was raising any real red flags.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of this seemed pretty normal for a seventh

536
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<v Speaker 5>grade girl with hormones and ADHD.

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<v Speaker 9>She also has an IP Okay, so do you think

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<v Speaker 9>maybe I.

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<v Speaker 22>Always thought that it was partly because she struggles with learning,

540
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<v Speaker 22>so I always thought his struggle with learning also are

541
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<v Speaker 22>a little bit with drawn and having her time was seen.

542
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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, there were struggles, a mom who had her

543
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<v Speaker 5>own mental health issues, a broken family ADHD, but none

544
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.160
<v Speaker 5>of it really pointed to a child who was about

545
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<v Speaker 5>to disappear. But investigators had to consider every possibility, whether

546
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 5>she left on her own, met someone, or was picked

547
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.920
<v Speaker 5>up along the way. None of these explanations held up

548
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<v Speaker 5>against the evidence. There was no footage of Maddie getting

549
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 5>out of a car, no camera capturing the moment she

550
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:32.480
<v Speaker 5>was dropped off. The only video investigators could locate came

551
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 5>from the area near the church, showing a figure believed

552
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<v Speaker 5>to be Mattie sitting briefly before getting up and walking away.

553
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<v Speaker 5>After that, the trail stops. There were no more sightings,

554
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<v Speaker 5>no confirmed movement, and no indication she'd made it any

555
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 5>farther towards a school. There is no evidence that she

556
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<v Speaker 5>ever met anyone, no sign that she left the area,

557
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<v Speaker 5>and nothing to suggest she went anywhere at all. The

558
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 5>timeline doesn't extend, It just comes to a dead end.

559
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.079
<v Speaker 5>The last person to see Maddie was Stephan, so detectives

560
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.400
<v Speaker 5>had no choice but to dig deeper into his version

561
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<v Speaker 5>of what happened.

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<v Speaker 15>They're saying, Okay, let her out, have a good day.

563
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<v Speaker 15>I love you, thanks, love you too. And I turned

564
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<v Speaker 15>around and was driving away and was watching her. In

565
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<v Speaker 15>my review, Mary and make sure that she was former

566
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<v Speaker 15>supposed to go, and she was moving in that direction,

567
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.599
<v Speaker 15>but she was rummaging around in her backpack or something

568
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 15>when I assumed it was probably headphones or something like that,

569
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<v Speaker 15>but find out literal that she forgot her phone here,

570
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<v Speaker 15>so she may have been rummaging for her phone, but

571
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 15>she was still kind of making her way towards towards

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<v Speaker 15>that direction, So it looked okay, look like any other day,

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<v Speaker 15>and I just continued on.

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<v Speaker 5>After dropping Maddie off, Stephan tells investigators he left the

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<v Speaker 5>area and went to a nearby vape shop, but it

576
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<v Speaker 5>wasn't opened yet, so he says he returned home briefly,

577
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 5>Jennifer was just getting up because she had slept in.

578
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 5>They hung out for a bit, and then he went

579
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<v Speaker 5>back to the vape shop once it opened. From there,

580
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 5>his account becomes harder to follow. He describes driving along

581
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<v Speaker 5>Highway one ninety two, stopping at multiple places, including a

582
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<v Speaker 5>comic shop and a Target. So, yeah, that's what an

583
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<v Speaker 5>adult male is doing on a typical weekday, shopping for

584
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 5>comic books and weed, maybe stopping by Target. We are

585
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<v Speaker 5>so cooked as a society. Then, at some point during

586
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<v Speaker 5>that time, he says he got a flat tire. He

587
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 5>pulled over and changed it using a spear. He explained

588
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<v Speaker 5>apologetically that the flat tire caused him to fall behind,

589
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.480
<v Speaker 5>so he missed the opportunity to pick Maddie up from

590
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:53.559
<v Speaker 5>school with Jennifer, as they had planned on its own.

591
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<v Speaker 5>None of that stood out as unusual, running air INDs,

592
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:01.000
<v Speaker 5>losing track of time, even getting a flat tire. These

593
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<v Speaker 5>are the kind of things that happened to everyone every day.

594
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<v Speaker 5>But it created a stretch of time that wasn't clearly

595
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<v Speaker 5>accounted for, a window where his movements relied almost completely

596
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<v Speaker 5>on his own recollection, and his recollection wasn't great because

597
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 5>remember he has ADHD. Also, so far, no footage had

598
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 5>confirmed where he was during that period, No independent witnesses

599
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 5>placed him at any of those stops. As cooperative as

600
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<v Speaker 5>Stephan was, he gave a series of locations, times, and

601
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<v Speaker 5>explanations that became harder to pin down the more they tried.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make sense, make sense.

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<v Speaker 15>I apologize for that. Trying to help you out the

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<v Speaker 15>best I can and bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So like.

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<v Speaker 23>If you drop her off her on eight p forty,

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<v Speaker 23>let's say give her take ten minutes. You make it

608
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<v Speaker 23>to the shop around nine, the smoke shop, and you

609
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<v Speaker 23>sit there and wait for a couple minutes for it

610
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<v Speaker 23>to open. You said you waited for maybe five or

611
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<v Speaker 23>ten minutes, right, Does it make sense that you're still

612
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<v Speaker 23>there at ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>I was there at ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what did you do before that?

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<v Speaker 15>I dropped her off and I made my way over

616
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<v Speaker 15>not a direct route, but I made my way over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you stop anywhere on your way to the smoke shop?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 23>Do you have problems with your memory that you can't

620
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<v Speaker 23>recall what you did?

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<v Speaker 15>I'm extremely ADHD. I'm sorry, so just details start to

622
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<v Speaker 15>get fuzzy after a while. Even the times I'm giving

623
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<v Speaker 15>you are my best guesstimates here. Didn't have my phone

624
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<v Speaker 15>with me at the time, so I wasn't aware of

625
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<v Speaker 15>exactly what time. There's no time on your car transpiring.

626
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<v Speaker 15>There probably is, but not my car.

627
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<v Speaker 2>It's my parents' car.

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<v Speaker 5>ADHD, no phone, unfamiliar car.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>ADHD is a real thing, don't get me wrong. And

631
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<v Speaker 5>it does affect memory and the ability to recall details

632
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<v Speaker 5>or keep track of time, all of those things. But

633
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<v Speaker 5>it may also be a really good cover or someone

634
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<v Speaker 5>who's trying to hide something, and that's when the investigation

635
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<v Speaker 5>started to shift away from what Stephan said and towards

636
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<v Speaker 5>what could actually be verified. He gave the investigators every

637
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<v Speaker 5>little detail, but he couldn't account for big gaps of time.

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<v Speaker 5>And while Jennifer corroborated his version of events, she was

639
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<v Speaker 5>also unable to explain gaps of time, probably because she

640
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<v Speaker 5>was asleep or at the doctor's office, maybe getting medicines readjusted.

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<v Speaker 5>So investigators turned to the one thing that doesn't rely

642
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<v Speaker 5>on memory or even coherence, his phone. His phone showed

643
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.480
<v Speaker 5>him going home, leaving again, and doubling back in a

644
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:10.039
<v Speaker 5>pattern that doesn't match the simple errands he described. What

645
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.079
<v Speaker 5>should have been a simple morning became a series of

646
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 5>trips and changes in direction. He couldn't really explain. Jennifer

647
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 5>corroborated Stephan's morning pretty sure.

648
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 1>He called me around ten eighteen.

649
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:23.559
<v Speaker 3>What did he call you for?

650
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 18>To let me know that if he didn't go to

651
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.199
<v Speaker 18>McDonald's planned. He had asked her multiple times if she

652
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 18>wanted to stop at mcdonald'scause that was the plan of

653
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 18>the night before, that they were going to wake up early.

654
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 18>He was gonna take her to McDonald's. Do like a

655
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 18>special McDonald's breakfast and then drop her off at school

656
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.400
<v Speaker 18>early because she wanted to get there a little early.

657
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 18>But on his way to school, she was very sleepy

658
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 18>and wanted to sleep in the car, and she said

659
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 18>she did not want to do McDonald's. She just wanted

660
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 18>to be dropped off.

661
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

662
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 17>Also to let me know.

663
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.880
<v Speaker 18>That he left his phone at home because I had

664
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 18>called Hi multiple times in the video. He had left

665
00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:00.599
<v Speaker 18>his phone at home by accident. He had went to

666
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:04.079
<v Speaker 18>the Babe Shop but they didn't open on time, so

667
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 18>he had waited for quite a while in front of

668
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 18>the Babe shop. They didn't open, so he left and

669
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:09.760
<v Speaker 18>came back and we hung out a little bit, and

670
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:12.679
<v Speaker 18>then I think he left again to the Babe shop.

671
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>To go by what he did.

672
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 5>Okay, detectives already knew something they weren't telling Jennifer, something

673
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 5>they had already discussed with Stephen. His car was caught

674
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.480
<v Speaker 5>on camera with a passenger in it for longer than

675
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:33.000
<v Speaker 5>he admitted, including turning around en route to circle back

676
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 5>to the apartment because he forgot a keyfob.

677
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 23>When you came back to get your keyfob, what did

678
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 23>you do when you got here?

679
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sorry, got key fob, ran back out again.

680
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Where did you park?

681
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Right right up here? I think?

682
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay? How long would you say you were inside your apartment.

683
00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:00.599
<v Speaker 15>For literally long enough to run in, grind the falling,

684
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 15>and come back out, so okay, And.

685
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.679
<v Speaker 1>Then what did you do? What did you do when

686
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:06.679
<v Speaker 1>you came back up.

687
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 15>Got back in the car, and went back on went

688
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 15>back on the morning mission?

689
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

690
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 23>The camera has you in the complex for twelve minutes?

691
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Does that seem about right?

692
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

693
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 15>Coming into the complex, driving around, parking, getting the fog,

694
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 15>coming back out sounds about right.

695
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay. And then you leave?

696
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 23>What time would you say you dropped her off at

697
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.159
<v Speaker 23>the school or not at the school, but in the area.

698
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:45.599
<v Speaker 15>My estimate was sometime between eight twenty and eight forty Yeah, okay.

699
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.280
<v Speaker 15>The camera has you leaving the complex at eight thirty

700
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 15>one thirty one, okay, so it must have been closer

701
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 15>to eight forty then roundabout, I think.

702
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

703
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 23>So, like, let's say you drop her off at eight forty,

704
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.440
<v Speaker 23>we don't see your car coming back south until ten

705
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:04.039
<v Speaker 23>o'clock in the morning, So what are you doing between

706
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 23>eight forty and.

707
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Ten o'clock.

708
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Cruising around a little bit?

709
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

710
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:13.079
<v Speaker 23>But I asked you earlier, you know, like what you

711
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.119
<v Speaker 23>were doing, and you said you were there for like

712
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 23>five or ten minutes and then you came back home.

713
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:22.239
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I went to the smoke shop, like I said,

714
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 15>but I was probably I may have been reandering around

715
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:29.760
<v Speaker 15>the area but made my way home.

716
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:33.920
<v Speaker 23>Okay, But I'm asking you earlier, right, And even like

717
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 23>the first time we talked to you, you're not telling

718
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 23>us that you're like, you know, just cruising the area

719
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:43.159
<v Speaker 23>like you're coming home. So I need to be able

720
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:48.719
<v Speaker 23>to explain to my supervisors why there's such a time gup.

721
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.800
<v Speaker 5>Stephan tried to make the return to the apartments sound routine.

722
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 5>He forgot a key, fop, he said, so he doubled back,

723
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 5>ran inside, and came right back out. But investigators were

724
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 5>already seeing cracks in that story. The stop took longer

725
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:13.239
<v Speaker 5>than he claimed, the timeline didn't hold, and while he

726
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.000
<v Speaker 5>was back at the complex, surveillance caught him doing some

727
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:21.960
<v Speaker 5>things things that made the forgot my fob explanation seem

728
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.599
<v Speaker 5>maybe well like a cover.

729
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Did she go inside with you?

730
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.960
<v Speaker 2>No, she was in the car, so she was asleep.

731
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Where in the car passengers the front seat? Correct?

732
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 23>Okay, just she had any point going the back of

733
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.639
<v Speaker 23>the vehicle, like in the back seat. So she was

734
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.159
<v Speaker 23>in the front the whole time, awake or asleep?

735
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 2>She was asleep?

736
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

737
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.320
<v Speaker 23>How was she positioned in the front seat?

738
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Leaned back in the seat? It's kind of punked out

739
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 2>and happened.

740
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Where was her head in relation to the seat.

741
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 15>Against the seat acting against it? Was a seat leaning

742
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.039
<v Speaker 15>back or she was leaning back as she had leaned

743
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 15>the seat back so that she could reply.

744
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:13.960
<v Speaker 5>In those questions. Seemed kind of like who cares questions?

745
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 22>Right?

746
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.679
<v Speaker 5>This all took place before he dropped her off at school.

747
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:22.079
<v Speaker 5>According to Stephan, they had been up early, Maddie was tired,

748
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 5>she slept on the way. She didn't want McDonald's. They

749
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.760
<v Speaker 5>were making good time, and he realized he had forgotten

750
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:32.079
<v Speaker 5>the keyfop, so he just drove right back to the complex.

751
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:37.039
<v Speaker 5>She was still asleep in the passenger seat. The problem is, well,

752
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 5>the problem for Stephan was that detectives weren't just looking

753
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:44.920
<v Speaker 5>at the one stop back at the complex. The more

754
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:48.679
<v Speaker 5>they reviewed the surveillance footage, the more they realized the

755
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:55.280
<v Speaker 5>same car Stephan was driving kept appearing different locations, different times,

756
00:41:56.280 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 5>but every time the passenger looked exactly the same, Her

757
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:10.719
<v Speaker 5>position never changed. She wasn't sleeping, she was already dead.

758
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.760
<v Speaker 5>Stephan was driving around for much of the morning with

759
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 5>a corpse in the passenger seat, trying to pass her

760
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 5>off as sleeping. Maddie never made it to school that

761
00:42:26.079 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 5>day because she never got out of the car. On

762
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:11.079
<v Speaker 5>the morning of her thirteenth birthday party, Mattie Soto would

763
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 5>have started another day in her life, school friends, homework. Instead,

764
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:20.000
<v Speaker 5>she disappeared and never made it to school. What started

765
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.599
<v Speaker 5>as a missing child case was now falling apart, right

766
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 5>in front of her mother's boyfriend, Stephan Stearns, who was

767
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.960
<v Speaker 5>the last person to see her. Stephan said it was

768
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 5>a normal morning, a school drop off, a few errands,

769
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.519
<v Speaker 5>a stop at a vape shop. But the more detectives

770
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:41.559
<v Speaker 5>checked his story, the less it held. The timeline shifted,

771
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 5>the details changed, surveillance exposed gaps he just couldn't explain,

772
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:52.679
<v Speaker 5>and whatever hope was left started fading fast. This was

773
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.840
<v Speaker 5>no longer a search for a missing girl. It was

774
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 5>a search for a missing corpse. Detectives had to break

775
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.360
<v Speaker 5>the news to Jennifer, so they showed her a picture

776
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 5>of the Lincoln in the driveway at about seven thirty.

777
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:07.559
<v Speaker 18>That's Mattie as sleep in the car.

778
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:14.639
<v Speaker 9>Mattie's not a sleeping What do you mean do you believe?

779
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe Maddie's asleep?

780
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:16.360
<v Speaker 13>There?

781
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:19.519
<v Speaker 2>She did?

782
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:20.679
<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

783
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:24.800
<v Speaker 1>We don't know where she's at.

784
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:29.679
<v Speaker 5>Jennifer takes the picture in her hand, scrunches her brow

785
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 5>and looks closer at her daughter.

786
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a find way for her to be laying down, sneapy.

787
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 24>Right now. We are probably going to start working this case.

788
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 9>As a homicide.

789
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:49.480
<v Speaker 24>We believe he possibly has done something too Maddie, and

790
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:51.360
<v Speaker 24>we want to know where he would possibly go.

791
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:56.320
<v Speaker 5>Surveillance picks up his silver Lincoln again and again that morning.

792
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:01.599
<v Speaker 5>At seven thirty five, it's at the trash car. Stephan

793
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:06.199
<v Speaker 5>gets out and throws a white trash bag inside. Maddie

794
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:10.000
<v Speaker 5>is still visible in the front passenger seat, her head

795
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:14.719
<v Speaker 5>tilted to the left, mouth hanging open, seat belted in.

796
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 5>At eight nineteen, the car is seen at the front gate.

797
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.840
<v Speaker 5>At eight thirty one, it leaves through the back gate,

798
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.320
<v Speaker 5>and in every one of those videos, Maddie is still

799
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 5>in the same position. A sleeping thirteen year old doesn't

800
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 5>usually remain frozen in the same posture across multiple stops,

801
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 5>multiple gates, multiple movements through a complex, but a dead

802
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 5>body does and then the camera is at the compactor

803
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 5>made the morning even darker. Near the tread from a

804
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 5>tire matching Stephan's vehicle, they recover a white trash bag

805
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 5>containing Maddie's backpack, a white croc and her school issued laptop.

806
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:04.599
<v Speaker 5>So while Stephan is telling detectives about McDonald's, a vape

807
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 5>shop and a forgotten keyfob oh and a girl sleeping

808
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 5>quietly in the front seat, the evidence is telling a

809
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.840
<v Speaker 5>very different story. The car didn't just stay in the

810
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 5>Kissimi area. Investigators later traced Stephan's vehicle out towards Saint

811
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 5>Cloud about thirty minutes away. License plate readers and traffic

812
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:29.920
<v Speaker 5>cameras followed the Lincoln to Hickory Tree Road, and by

813
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 5>the time the car was seen coming back, it had

814
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 5>his spare tire on it, And this time Stephan wasn't lying.

815
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:41.159
<v Speaker 5>At some point that morning he really did have a

816
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:44.360
<v Speaker 5>flat tire. Someone saw him pulled over on the side

817
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 5>of the road coming home from one ninety two on

818
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:50.360
<v Speaker 5>Hickory Tree.

819
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 9>I observed that great vehicle Lincoln is it okay?

820
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 13>With a flack rear tire.

821
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.960
<v Speaker 24>He was down inside the road, okay, stooping down in

822
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:06.000
<v Speaker 24>the back looking at the tire, which I found odd.

823
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's uh, normally I just blowed off.

824
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.599
<v Speaker 5>That's around twelve thirty the guy. I didn't see Maddie

825
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.360
<v Speaker 5>in the passenger seat because Stephan had already moved her,

826
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:21.679
<v Speaker 5>possibly to her final location by then. It's plausible he

827
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 5>got a flat tire while off roading and off loading

828
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:29.679
<v Speaker 5>the body. Just three hours earlier. Surveillance footage from a

829
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.280
<v Speaker 5>parking garage near the vape shop caught him in the

830
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 5>act of moving the body. Stepan backs his vehicle into

831
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 5>a parking space by the stairs. He exits his vehicle

832
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 5>and walks towards the rear. Then he opens the trunk.

833
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:48.360
<v Speaker 5>At nine am, Stephan is seen placing Maddie, who was

834
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:52.719
<v Speaker 5>wearing a green sweatshirt, into the trunk of his vehicle.

835
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.960
<v Speaker 5>He then exits the parking garage and heads onto one

836
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.880
<v Speaker 5>Two detectives don't tell tell him about their mounting evidence.

837
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:06.559
<v Speaker 5>They're still feeling a map. When he's questioned details about

838
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 5>his timeline, his answers are very polite and he's sticking

839
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 5>to his story, his vague story.

840
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry, that's okay.

841
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.159
<v Speaker 15>I know the details are important, and just the way

842
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 15>our brains work with ADHD is those things can get fuzzy.

843
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Are you in any medication I supposed to be?

844
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 15>I have not been medicated lately, so I'm just I'm

845
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:35.719
<v Speaker 15>not a morning person. I'm very time blind on the

846
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 15>best of days, and forget so I understand that none

847
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:42.639
<v Speaker 15>of that is helpful in this case.

848
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm forty sorry.

849
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have the apartment secured for the rest of

850
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:48.639
<v Speaker 1>the night.

851
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Why so the investigation is not gonna happen tonight?

852
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 1>It is?

853
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.960
<v Speaker 5>He asks whether the investigation will still happen that night.

854
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.119
<v Speaker 5>It would, it would, but that didn't stop Stephan from

855
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:08.760
<v Speaker 5>continuing his movements when the interviews ended, because before sunrise,

856
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.679
<v Speaker 5>while the search was still very much alive, he takes

857
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 5>Jennifer's car and leaves the hotel, heading out towards Saint

858
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 5>Cloud around three am. Then later that morning, he takes

859
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:25.480
<v Speaker 5>off again, this time much farther. Records show Jennifer's Nissan

860
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:30.079
<v Speaker 5>traveling to Northport. Later, Jennifer would say he came back

861
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:33.480
<v Speaker 5>with a wah wah Cup and claimed he'd just gone

862
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 5>to one ninety two. He never told her where he'd

863
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 5>actually been, which is important because Northport isn't around the corner.

864
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:43.960
<v Speaker 5>It's two hours away.

865
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Because at one point he moved close to where his

866
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 3>parents live right now.

867
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 4>In they lived in Northport, order at Sarazorba County.

868
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 5>You caught that right. The one place these killers always

869
00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 5>seemed to head towards after killing is back to mommy

870
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.599
<v Speaker 5>and daddy, and in this case, that was Northport, Florida,

871
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:06.920
<v Speaker 5>where Stephan's parents lived.

872
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Obviously you lived down in Northport.

873
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 9>Yes, I'm just gonna shoot today.

874
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:13.599
<v Speaker 14>I don't respect from you.

875
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.920
<v Speaker 13>And there's a storage unit down there.

876
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have a storage You have a storage unit.

877
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 15>Is that your son's storage unit or is that your

878
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:21.559
<v Speaker 15>at your storage unit?

879
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>You know?

880
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:23.360
<v Speaker 9>Does he have access to it?

881
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 13>No?

882
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I have the keys of fat Were you aware that?

883
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.239
<v Speaker 11>Did your son come visit you on Monday morning?

884
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:32.119
<v Speaker 9>This Monday?

885
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:32.440
<v Speaker 14>Yeah?

886
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:33.280
<v Speaker 13>He left?

887
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Say okay.

888
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:41.159
<v Speaker 5>Stephan's dad sounds confused because he is. You see, Stephan

889
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.599
<v Speaker 5>had been living with his parents for a few months

890
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:47.039
<v Speaker 5>after another breakup with Jennifer, but they were still on

891
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:51.920
<v Speaker 5>good terms and because of his strong bond with Maddie.

892
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 5>Jen invited him back for Maddie's birthday. So his dad

893
00:50:56.599 --> 00:50:59.440
<v Speaker 5>is talking about his son leaving on Sunday, that had

894
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.639
<v Speaker 5>to kissing me for Mattie's birthday. He doesn't know yet

895
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:08.079
<v Speaker 5>that just three days later, Stephan would quietly make that

896
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:12.400
<v Speaker 5>same drive back without telling anyone. It would become apparent

897
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:16.199
<v Speaker 5>later in the investigation that Stephan had traveled to his

898
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.920
<v Speaker 5>parents place in Northport because he had a hard drive

899
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:27.440
<v Speaker 5>there containing incriminating material, let's say. And as if the

900
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 5>Northport trip wasn't incriminating enough, what they found on his

901
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:36.840
<v Speaker 5>phone was worse yet, but he had tried to erase it.

902
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.239
<v Speaker 4>When I saw him at the house, everything was normal.

903
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.239
<v Speaker 4>We were chatting, We're talking, he was acting normal. He

904
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.559
<v Speaker 4>was sitting in my computer chair snuffing around on his

905
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.039
<v Speaker 4>phone while we were hanging out. He mentioned something along

906
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.800
<v Speaker 4>the lines of, oh, man, I've been avoiding this phone

907
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.840
<v Speaker 4>update for a really long time. I should probably update

908
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 4>it now.

909
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 9>And I said, do it.

910
00:51:57.440 --> 00:51:58.639
<v Speaker 4>Don't avoid it, just get.

911
00:51:58.519 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 2>It over with.

912
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:06.280
<v Speaker 4>And he updates his phone and then tells, me, oh

913
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.119
<v Speaker 4>my god, I don't know what button I just pressed,

914
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:11.480
<v Speaker 4>but I just factory reset my entire phone, And I said,

915
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 4>how the hell's that happened?

916
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 5>Well, that happens quite simply. When you have something to hide,

917
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:20.440
<v Speaker 5>you deliberately go to your phone settings, find the reset

918
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:25.719
<v Speaker 5>tab and tap it to erase all the content. And

919
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:32.719
<v Speaker 5>that's what Stephan thought he did. But a computer scientist,

920
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.639
<v Speaker 5>he was not so.

921
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:39.199
<v Speaker 3>Earlier that day, I think detective Hot came or somebody

922
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.639
<v Speaker 3>came and asked Stefan for his cell phone, if you

923
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 3>would willingly give it up so they can look at it,

924
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:49.039
<v Speaker 3>or if they would need a warrant, And.

925
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I remember him saying, should I have asked a warrant?

926
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:54.679
<v Speaker 4>Should I have? And I'm like, no, If you guys

927
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:56.440
<v Speaker 4>don't need to hide, give him your fucking phone.

928
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 3>And then when you guys came in the evening and

929
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:00.599
<v Speaker 3>you guys told us to wait outside, and we waited

930
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:04.960
<v Speaker 3>in my car, he started getting very anxious and very panicky, going,

931
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I want my phone back, I want my phone back,

932
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 3>And I said, listen, at this point, it's their phone.

933
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:11.800
<v Speaker 3>It's there for fucking ever. I don't give a shit.

934
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.079
<v Speaker 3>We will buy you a new phone. It doesn't matter anymore.

935
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:16.519
<v Speaker 3>Whatever they need, they need, like, let them look at it.

936
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:19.639
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, I just want my phone back, and

937
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:22.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, do you are you trying to make

938
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 3>yourself more suspicious, because like you're if you were to

939
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:29.400
<v Speaker 3>go to band your phone back right now, that would

940
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:33.320
<v Speaker 3>look suspicious as fuck, Like what are you doing? I'm

941
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:36.280
<v Speaker 3>thinking he's just getting impatient because he's bored and wants

942
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:39.400
<v Speaker 3>to plant his phone. And at one point he takes

943
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:41.360
<v Speaker 3>my phone to start playing with it. I give it

944
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:44.079
<v Speaker 3>up and I said, here, play on my phone.

945
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:44.360
<v Speaker 12>Have fun.

946
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.079
<v Speaker 5>Just two days after Maddie went missing, detectives had Stephan's

947
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:53.760
<v Speaker 5>phone and all the evidence on it, which was quite

948
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:58.679
<v Speaker 5>a bit. They found graphic pictures and videos of him

949
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:04.400
<v Speaker 5>sexually abusing thirteen year old Maddie Soda. In one picture,

950
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:08.280
<v Speaker 5>Stephan's face is visible and his tongue is on Maddie's nipple.

951
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 5>It was explicit, undeniable, and extremely disturbing, and it had

952
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:20.719
<v Speaker 5>been saved among an album of child sexual abuse material.

953
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:24.679
<v Speaker 5>They didn't just find one picture or one scene, they

954
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 5>found hundreds, basically a typical redditor's stash. These pictures pointed

955
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 5>to repetition duration, a system of abuse. Later reporting would

956
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:45.079
<v Speaker 5>describe roughly seventeen hundred images linked to Stephan's accounts stretching

957
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 5>back at least two years. So the phone did not

958
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:53.000
<v Speaker 5>just prove what Stephan had done. It showed that he

959
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:58.840
<v Speaker 5>had been doing it for a very long time, and

960
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:04.079
<v Speaker 5>the investigator matched the abuser in those files to Stephen's

961
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:11.119
<v Speaker 5>own body parts if you catch my drift. Reports about

962
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:15.920
<v Speaker 5>the pictures describe a bright pinkish area below the head

963
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:20.079
<v Speaker 5>of the penis and a black mark or freckle on it,

964
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:26.159
<v Speaker 5>also visible in some pictures. Yuck. They also collected penile

965
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:31.719
<v Speaker 5>swabs from them, which I'm sure was quite humiliating. By then,

966
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:35.679
<v Speaker 5>detectives weren't just looking at abuse images. They were connecting

967
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:42.079
<v Speaker 5>the penis in those images directly to Stefan Stearns. Imagine

968
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 5>that being your job. Now that detectives had Stephan's phone,

969
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.440
<v Speaker 5>Jennifer was forced to reconcile with their understanding of who

970
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:52.239
<v Speaker 5>he really was.

971
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:54.400
<v Speaker 9>Like, I look back at.

972
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:56.119
<v Speaker 3>It now, I'm just like, he was fucking lying, he

973
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:58.400
<v Speaker 3>was fucking taking. What else has he been lying to

974
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.599
<v Speaker 3>me about? I know he's like a master liar manipulator

975
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:03.440
<v Speaker 3>because he's done He's done it to his parents, and

976
00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:07.840
<v Speaker 3>he's told me and shown me the lies he's done

977
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.920
<v Speaker 3>to his parents. But I don't know why. I never thought,

978
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:12.119
<v Speaker 3>not me.

979
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:18.280
<v Speaker 5>That would be because Jennifer forgot this stark truth that

980
00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:22.760
<v Speaker 5>people will always show you who they really are if

981
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:24.280
<v Speaker 5>you pay close enough attention.

982
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I told him to call his dad because I had

983
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.639
<v Speaker 3>a feeling something. Y'all knew something, and it was gonna

984
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:34.519
<v Speaker 3>come down on him. And I'm just like, they're focusing

985
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.639
<v Speaker 3>on the wrong person. They have the wrong person. In

986
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:40.559
<v Speaker 3>my head, I'm convinced you guys are just did you

987
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:41.440
<v Speaker 3>have the wrong person?

988
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:47.039
<v Speaker 5>He was definitely a wrong person, just not the wrong

989
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 5>person for these crimes. But what happened to Maddie was

990
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:56.960
<v Speaker 5>not an accident at all. Jennifer asked detectives, how the

991
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 5>hell does that happen? Well, the detectives wanted that question

992
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:08.079
<v Speaker 5>answered also, and they wanted to know if Jennifer was complicit.

993
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:09.960
<v Speaker 9>I don't know what you want me to say or

994
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:10.519
<v Speaker 9>do or.

995
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I just want my daughter back.

996
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:18.000
<v Speaker 24>And this is exactly what I was just talking about.

997
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:24.920
<v Speaker 24>We are literally having a conversation right now about Maddie

998
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:26.480
<v Speaker 24>possibly being dead.

999
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and.

1000
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>You have yet to shed it to here.

1001
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:37.480
<v Speaker 5>By now, detectives know Maddie is dead. They know Stephan

1002
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:41.800
<v Speaker 5>is responsible, but the questions that are about to get

1003
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:45.639
<v Speaker 5>a lot darker are these, why did he kill her?

1004
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.320
<v Speaker 5>And how does this kind of sexual abuse happen for

1005
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:53.760
<v Speaker 5>years in a home with someone you say you trusted

1006
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:58.199
<v Speaker 5>with your life. Jennifer may have trusted Stephan with her life,

1007
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:02.719
<v Speaker 5>but Maddie was the one who paid for and what

1008
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:08.000
<v Speaker 5>they're about to uncover is far worse than how she died.
