Speaker 1: The disclaimer to the fair season. Karen's out there, how
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Speaker 2: He's admised, did.
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Speaker 2: the darnet on this show. What a thrill? Hey, guys,
Speaker 2: what is happening? And what is up? Amen? Hold it out?
Speaker 2: You know what time it is, guys. Man, I am
Speaker 2: fresh off of the road or the air because I
Speaker 2: fluted this one, but just got back from ro Grow four.
Speaker 2: It's my second time going. Man had such a great
Speaker 2: time For those that didn't make it, Man, I was
Speaker 2: just going to get on here while it was fresh
Speaker 2: on the dawn, just kind of talk about it, let
Speaker 2: you know what I've seen from my perspective of how
Speaker 2: I thought about the show, and just kind of wrap
Speaker 2: up with you guys a little bit. You know, So
Speaker 2: I'm doubling down tonight, so we'll be here for maybe
Speaker 2: an hour, maybe an hour and a half, something like that,
Speaker 2: and then we'll roll into Legends of the Jews. Guys,
Speaker 2: are you ready for a double dose of me? If not,
Speaker 2: I understand, you know. I'm like being a drill. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm good in small doses. Right. Shout out to Virginia.
Speaker 2: I seen the chat there, nef what's happening? Brother? Actually
Speaker 2: a bunch of us was talking. We were surprised that
Speaker 2: we didn't see you there. We just about expecting you
Speaker 2: to be there. But man, it was such a good time.
Speaker 2: Like I said, this is my second year going. And
Speaker 2: so I flew down from Ashville to Orlando and my
Speaker 2: boy Steven from the Biblical hit Man, him and his
Speaker 2: wife just moved into their new house, freshly built house.
Speaker 2: So he's like, man, when you come down for bro Grove,
Speaker 2: just stay with me. So that was cool. He opened
Speaker 2: up his house for me. We got to hang out,
Speaker 2: and Ben from End of the World News he actually
Speaker 2: stayed with us too, so we had all three of
Speaker 2: us in the house together. So that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: But I flew down on Thursday night and he picked
Speaker 2: me up and we come back and we chilled for
Speaker 2: a little bit, but then we went to bed. And
Speaker 2: that next day Top and Raven they had told us
Speaker 2: that they were having like the VIP event and we're
Speaker 2: gonna be hanging out the coffee shop and stuff, so
Speaker 2: we could come by there and hang out and it
Speaker 2: was really cool. Man. We showed up and they were
Speaker 2: just getting set up, getting ready to do some more recording,
Speaker 2: and they had to Ed Maybray and some other gentlemen there.
Speaker 2: Forgive me, I can't remember his name, but when we
Speaker 2: come in, we seen them just getting set up. They
Speaker 2: were getting ready to start recording with him. As soon
Speaker 2: as I walked in, I seen Bennett from Broadcasting Seeds
Speaker 2: sitting over there on the couch, seeing JT from JT
Speaker 2: Follows JC Brian from Demon Racers was there with him.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think as far as like content creators,
Speaker 2: that was it at that time. But we sat there
Speaker 2: on the couch man just hung out and we took
Speaker 2: a bunch of you know, selfies together and stuff and
Speaker 2: just wrapped it up and it was so cool man.
Speaker 2: To me, that was so much more. I mean, I've
Speaker 2: been to a lot of conferences.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Uh, to me, that was special because all these guys,
Speaker 2: man I considered good friends. We worked together for you know,
Speaker 2: the past couple of years and done a lot of
Speaker 2: interviews with each other. Man. Uh, so it was really
Speaker 2: cool to just hang out and be there with them
Speaker 2: face to face and uh, it was just really awesome.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Uh No, nef I live in Greenville, Tennessee, but it's
Speaker 2: right on the eastern tip of Tennessee. So the Ashville,
Speaker 2: North Carolina Airport is like the closest one to me.
Speaker 2: So I always fly out of there because it's like
Speaker 2: an hour drive from my place. Oh sweets, you'll be
Speaker 2: there next year. Nice. But uh yeah, we we just
Speaker 2: got to hang out. Man. It was so cool. Uh.
Speaker 2: And of course I brought ed the Head. He's he's
Speaker 2: back over here. H. Well this MI extends in a way.
Speaker 2: Yeah now you see, well at that bang, but I
Speaker 2: take that guy with me everywhere, man, Ed the Head.
Speaker 2: He's my conference buddy, and I have people sign up stuff.
Speaker 2: So I took it down there. I added some new
Speaker 2: signatures to it, and the boys from Nefflam discoad they
Speaker 2: were nice enough to let me have a table, so
Speaker 2: we hung out and just kind of spitbatted that next
Speaker 2: day because that was Friday, right, so we went We
Speaker 2: hung out down there at the coffee shop and got
Speaker 2: to meet everybody for a couple hours, and then the
Speaker 2: VIP started rolling in and they had like a Bible study.
Speaker 2: It was so cool bumping into people that listened to
Speaker 2: the show and they're like, hey, man, love your show,
Speaker 2: what you do. Thank you. You know. I got to
Speaker 2: meet to a Parker Morrison man, he's always in the chat.
Speaker 2: He said he was going to be there. I went
Speaker 2: outside for something and I passed him, and I knew
Speaker 2: right away from his pictures. I'm like, oh, dude, what's
Speaker 2: up Parker. So that was really cool getting to see him.
Speaker 2: And then they did like a Bible study kind of thing,
Speaker 2: and so me and the boys we packed up and
Speaker 2: went back and got us something to eat, and then
Speaker 2: we did a little live on Steven's channel and it
Speaker 2: was funny. I had my camera, you know, a nice camera,
Speaker 2: but I didn't bring my plugins and all the crap.
Speaker 2: I always forget something. And Steven met he's a perfectionist.
Speaker 2: He was trying to move all this stuff and lighting,
Speaker 2: you know, and me and Ben's like, man, let's hook
Speaker 2: up that little webcam. Let's just go, let's just talk.
Speaker 2: So we just had like a little webcam and just
Speaker 2: kind of got on there and had all three of
Speaker 2: us on this you know, webcam camera, and we did
Speaker 2: a live and we kind of talked about that night
Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, the content creators, how we
Speaker 2: got to hang out with them and all that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. But it was a fun conversation of if
Speaker 2: you guys missed that, we covered a lot of ground.
Speaker 2: We talked about bro Grove, we talked about a little
Speaker 2: bit of conspiracy, and then we even somehow got into gaming.
Speaker 2: We're like, oh yeah, man, and of course I showed
Speaker 2: my age. I was like yeah, first game and set
Speaker 2: up was an Atari man that little black joystick you
Speaker 2: know with two buttons, and somehow we got off on that.
Speaker 2: But it was fun. We had a good time. But
Speaker 2: the next day was bro Grove. So the boys at
Speaker 2: Neflin Discquad they were nice enough to let me have
Speaker 2: a table. So I brought a bunch of books and
Speaker 2: some of those elongates Gould drawings it's autographed by doctor
Speaker 2: Aaron Judkins, and my stickers and bookmarks and all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, which the stickers and bookmarks. I always
Speaker 2: give those away. You know, I ain't got much in them,
Speaker 2: and it's promotional. So if you get some of my
Speaker 2: stickers for free and slapping on something somebody happens to
Speaker 2: see it, maybe it'll spark their curiosity. You know, That's
Speaker 2: how I look at it. But uh so I set
Speaker 2: up my table and everything, and what was really cool
Speaker 2: is they had it all set up. You know, in
Speaker 2: this room they had the stage and all the chairs
Speaker 2: and tables and everything, but then off to the side,
Speaker 2: like in its own little section. But you know, off
Speaker 2: to the side they had the vendor's boots. And I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think who all was there with a booth.
Speaker 2: Brad Leel from the Awakened podcast he had a table there.
Speaker 2: He had all kinds of conspiracy t shirts and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. And of course Thomas Paranoid American, he was
Speaker 2: there and he was helping sell Neflin Desk Squad's merch
Speaker 2: and his arm next to him was ben at Tanton
Speaker 2: from Broadcasting Seeds. And I'm trying to thank here Laura Baker.
Speaker 2: I heard a lot of people talk about Laura Baker,
Speaker 2: but I had never looked her up or seen any
Speaker 2: of her stuff. But I heard that name a lot
Speaker 2: because the circles that we run in, you know, they've
Speaker 2: all had her on the show, and I've heard the name.
Speaker 2: So she was sharing the table with Bennett and we
Speaker 2: were right next to them, so I got to sit
Speaker 2: beside them, and so I got to talk with Laura
Speaker 2: and we had a real good conversation, and I said, man,
Speaker 2: I've heard your name, you know, a lot from people,
Speaker 2: but I've not had you on the show yet. So
Speaker 2: I mean, we got to get you on my show.
Speaker 2: And she said, yeah, holler at me. I'd love to.
Speaker 2: And she she was a really sweet, cool lady. Uh
Speaker 2: just had a real good time and Uh, I just
Speaker 2: sat there at the table and kind I sold my
Speaker 2: stuff and smoothed with some people. And then to the
Speaker 2: right of me, I had Jeremiah Skiba and Jake from
Speaker 2: Skiva News Nation. And what was really cool about that
Speaker 2: was I had met Jake my four to six months
Speaker 2: ago at a conference in Kentucky. We happened to go
Speaker 2: together and we were kind of next to each other too,
Speaker 2: So I just went over and started talking to him.
Speaker 2: You know me, guys, I've never met a stranger, but uh,
Speaker 2: we just started talking and stuff, and I was telling
Speaker 2: him about my book, you know, and showed him the book,
Speaker 2: and uh, I think i'd give him my copy if
Speaker 2: I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure I did. But uh,
Speaker 2: and I told you I pitched him my theory, you know,
Speaker 2: what the book was about. He said, oh, dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: You know he's I got some uh some theories on
Speaker 2: est sau too, and he was telling me some stuff
Speaker 2: he looked into. And so we had a really good conversation.
Speaker 2: But I didn't get to meet Jeremiah, and I had
Speaker 2: found their po box, so I sent I sent Jeremiah
Speaker 2: a copy of my book a few months ago. I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, check this out. You know, I'd
Speaker 2: love to work with you. Go on your show, you
Speaker 2: come on mine, whatever. And I didn't hear back from him,
Speaker 2: but i'd reach out on social media a few times,
Speaker 2: and I know how it is, man, people's inbox gets
Speaker 2: just jammed up. So I really hadn't had a chance
Speaker 2: to connect with Jeremiah, and so when I seen him
Speaker 2: beside him, it's okay, Yeah, I'm going to definitely talk
Speaker 2: to him a little bit and get to know him.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he ended up coming over sitting at my
Speaker 2: table for a while. We talked for a while and
Speaker 2: stuff and got some pictures together. If you follow me
Speaker 2: on social I'm sure you've seen some of it. So
Speaker 2: it was really cool. I got to connect with him
Speaker 2: and talk a little while. He was a real cool dude.
Speaker 2: But man, just what a fun show. And I was
Speaker 2: telling the guys, you know, they got to you know,
Speaker 2: Ben and which Ben hung out at the table a
Speaker 2: little bit and Steven did too, but they didn't have
Speaker 2: a table, so they were free to you know, walk
Speaker 2: around and schmooze with everybody. But they had another section
Speaker 2: that was off on the side and they had it,
Speaker 2: you know a while die off and everything, but they
Speaker 2: had a podcasting table set up. So I mean, this
Speaker 2: was they did like an eight hour live stream on
Speaker 2: their channel and it was just open to us content
Speaker 2: creators whenever we wanted to, we just go sit down
Speaker 2: at the table and record and talk and just you know,
Speaker 2: just rub elbows and stuff on the live there. So
Speaker 2: that was really cool. But where I just had to
Speaker 2: step there at the table, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: I was kind of locked down. I was telling the
Speaker 2: boys I'm like, man, i't have to like con my
Speaker 2: kids or something, or at least one of them into
Speaker 2: come in with me to these things. That way, you know,
Speaker 2: if I need to get up go to the bathroom
Speaker 2: or want to schmooze and rub some elbows, I can,
Speaker 2: you know. But I kind of locked it down at
Speaker 2: the table. But it was cool, and I got to
Speaker 2: watch in the live a little bit at the table
Speaker 2: and I seen Stephen and Steven. He recorded a couple
Speaker 2: sessions that night. But I had message to him and
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, man, I said, when you get done,
Speaker 2: I said, did you care to watch the table for
Speaker 2: just a few minutes so I can go over there,
Speaker 2: you know, And He's like, oh yeah, dude, Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 2: And Steven's awesome. But what was crazy is I was
Speaker 2: talking about in the future. But I love Steve. He's
Speaker 2: so selfless. Man, He's a good dude. He immediately because
Speaker 2: I'm watching the life, you know, when I messaged him
Speaker 2: and I seen him look at his phone and I
Speaker 2: seen him messaging me back, and it was like, immediately,
Speaker 2: he just gets up, dude and leaves the life. I'm like, God, Steve,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't saying right now, bro, you know, just you know,
Speaker 2: when you get done, I wouldn't try to rush you.
Speaker 2: And he come over and he's like, yeah, man, go
Speaker 2: ahead and go take my spot. I'm like, dude, I
Speaker 2: didn't mean right now, but hell, I appreciate it, you know.
Speaker 2: So that was awesome And got to go over there.
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to think when I went because I
Speaker 2: only got to record one session with him. Now was
Speaker 2: there for It wasn't a long time, about half hour
Speaker 2: or so, but I know Ben from End of the
Speaker 2: World News was there. And I cannot remember this guy's name,
Speaker 2: so forgive me if you see this, but we all
Speaker 2: call him the Mormon. He comes to bro Grove almost
Speaker 2: every year. And I think it was three years ago
Speaker 2: they sold like these little black like Harry Potter cloaks
Speaker 2: with the hood and had the bro Grove emblem on
Speaker 2: it and stuff. Uh, and he wore it and he's
Speaker 2: wore it like the past couple of years. But they
Speaker 2: call him, you know, the Mormon. That's how we know him.
Speaker 2: But he's been on their show talking about Mormonism and
Speaker 2: like when Heidi Love went on there and kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, spilled the beans on her research. You know,
Speaker 2: they went kind of went on there and was like
Speaker 2: give their point of view, but he was there and
Speaker 2: then me. And what was cool was as I was
Speaker 2: sitting there, Jake from Skeeven News Nation happened to be
Speaker 2: walking through that little room. And that room is a
Speaker 2: pretty big room. It kind of looked like maybe like
Speaker 2: they could have used it for a cafeteria or something.
Speaker 2: But that's where all the content creators kind of schmooged,
Speaker 2: you know. We went back there and it was kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, just sealed off for us, and that's where
Speaker 2: everybody was hanging out and you know, talking. But Jake
Speaker 2: happened to be walking by, and we kind of flagged
Speaker 2: him down. Hey, man, come over here. We got a
Speaker 2: mike left, got a seat open, so he got to
Speaker 2: sit down next to me and we talked for a
Speaker 2: little while and Ben was like, well, we've been talking
Speaker 2: pop culture and news. What do you guys want to
Speaker 2: talk about? And they were like we could do this
Speaker 2: or that, you know, and then Jake he just looked
Speaker 2: at me and grin. He's like, well, I got something
Speaker 2: we can talk about. He said that, I know this
Speaker 2: guy is going to be all about you know, and
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I know where we're going. He's like,
Speaker 2: let's talk about some he saw. So he laid out
Speaker 2: some of his research, getting into like the etymology of
Speaker 2: the root words. And it was pretty cool. Check that
Speaker 2: out if you have not gonna spoil it for you.
Speaker 2: It was just a real good time. And then they
Speaker 2: had podcasting roundtables. So they told us when we first
Speaker 2: got there, you know, hey, if you want to be
Speaker 2: part of the round table, you know, there's a sign
Speaker 2: up sheet over here. Just put your name on there.
Speaker 2: That way we can start grouping people together. And I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think. I think they had four or five
Speaker 2: and they were all really good. And I was the
Speaker 2: second from the last group, and in my group was uh,
Speaker 2: we had Raven, we had Matt from Straight Bible. He
Speaker 2: was actually next to me. Uh, we had Austin Picard
Speaker 2: trying to think that. We had Andrew from six ye
Speaker 2: Agenda that I do to promethe this report with. He
Speaker 2: was on that panel too, and uh, it was it
Speaker 2: was pretty cool. But what was funny, man, is I
Speaker 2: even talked to Austin afterwards. I was like, dude, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry this turned into like a attack Austin Therapy session
Speaker 2: up there because how it started off was it was funny.
Speaker 2: Raven asked, us, Uh, he's he directed a question like
Speaker 2: to each of us, you know, kind of teed it up.
Speaker 2: But he had said, Austin, uh, what have you been
Speaker 2: looking into lately? Or you know what what's grabbed your attention?
Speaker 2: You know, or something like that, and he starts talking
Speaker 2: about this movie and I can't remember the name of it,
Speaker 2: might have been A wicker Man or something like that,
Speaker 2: but he was talking about it was, you know, the
Speaker 2: basically a ceremony where they sacrificed, you know, someone, but
Speaker 2: they picked up this I think it was Nicholas Cage,
Speaker 2: he said. But he was like the perfect target they wanted.
Speaker 2: He was a Christian, he was an unsuspecting victim and
Speaker 2: he was going to be the sacrifice. And he kind
Speaker 2: of broke down that movie and got the talking and
Speaker 2: it was me. It was it was dark and Raven
Speaker 2: looks at him and he's like, Austin, Uh, I haven't
Speaker 2: been wanting to talk to you about something. He's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you stay in these dark, you know holes,
Speaker 2: you need to come out and get some lighter once
Speaker 2: in a while. It's gonna drive you crazy bro, you know.
Speaker 2: He said, it gets heavy on your spirits. You got
Speaker 2: to learn to, you know, come out of there sometimes
Speaker 2: and stuff. And he was like, oh, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: It can be kind of dark, you know. And then
Speaker 2: he looked at me. He said, little dark, he said.
Speaker 2: The last time you came on, he said, we talked
Speaker 2: about the drinking of menstrual blood. He said in the
Speaker 2: Songs of Solomon. He said, that's pretty dark too. And
Speaker 2: he's like, uh, well, what do you do to stay sane?
Speaker 2: And I just kind of laughed and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I see, I said, we all look at some dark stuff.
Speaker 2: I said, But man, I said, it's like anything in life.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, it's about balance. It's easy to get
Speaker 2: stuck in our holes and just get hyper fixated and focused,
Speaker 2: you know, and you do you go down a dark hole, man,
Speaker 2: and it can It can dampen your spirit, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. You can get some attachments. You know.
Speaker 2: It's so important to stay preyed up on these things
Speaker 2: when you're looking into some of these subjects. But I
Speaker 2: told him, I was like, you know, I'll take time out,
Speaker 2: like I'll be studying this stuff and getting some of
Speaker 2: this dark stuff, I said. And then after a while,
Speaker 2: I just tell myself, Okay, I'm just gonna put that away.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be doing any more of that
Speaker 2: for the next four or five days or maybe week.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I even block off entire weeks or not weeks
Speaker 2: like plural, but one. And I told him, I said,
Speaker 2: I'll just you know, go hang out with my kids,
Speaker 2: or go go hiking, just do something to take my
Speaker 2: mind off of that, you know. That way, I'm just
Speaker 2: trying to get some balance in life. And and the
Speaker 2: way it happened is like he going down the line
Speaker 2: and talking about that to everybody, and so it kind
Speaker 2: of turned into like a you know, Austin Picard, you know,
Speaker 2: pull him out of the dark hole intervention kind of conversation.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But we had a good time. But after it was
Speaker 2: over with you, I seen Austin and I got to
Speaker 2: talk to us a dude. I said, I'm sorry. I said,
Speaker 2: it kind of like we ganged up on you there.
Speaker 2: He said, oh, no, it's good. I know. It was
Speaker 2: all in love. You know. He was a good support
Speaker 2: about it. But it was funny how that kind of
Speaker 2: took a life of its own. But one thing I
Speaker 2: was really really excited about and happy about. Was I
Speaker 2: just recently recorded with doctor Heather Lynn and I had
Speaker 2: just put a rush order on getting that edited because
Speaker 2: I wanted to get it out as quick as possible.
Speaker 2: So uh, it was within h it was within three days,
Speaker 2: I think that I ended up getting that pushed out,
Speaker 2: So thank you Jason. But so when we went there,
Speaker 2: I bumped into her, and of course soon as she
Speaker 2: walked in, I was like, oh, there's theairs, Heather. And
Speaker 2: if you follow me on social or even looked on here,
Speaker 2: I posted a lot of pictures and we got a
Speaker 2: picture together. She was so cool. I mean I knew
Speaker 2: she was cool because I already talked to her, but
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I definitely want to, you know,
Speaker 2: meet this woman. And we did. We nerd it out again.
Speaker 2: She ended up coming over the table and we talked
Speaker 2: for a while about some stuff and hung out. Of
Speaker 2: course I had her sign ed the head so I
Speaker 2: got her signature on the elongated school now. And another
Speaker 2: time I was walking through, going back and forth between
Speaker 2: that podcasting room. You know, they had like a like
Speaker 2: a black tarp veil kind of thing. I was coming
Speaker 2: in and out there for something and I happened to
Speaker 2: look and she was sitting like right there at the
Speaker 2: end of the table, right next to that little veil,
Speaker 2: and there was a chair open right there, so I
Speaker 2: just invited myself. I just sat down. I said, Hey,
Speaker 2: what's going on, Heather. So we got to talk again
Speaker 2: for a while. So it was really fun. I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed getting to meet her, especially in that kind of
Speaker 2: timely manner. I just spoke with her on the show,
Speaker 2: and so we hit it off real well, had a
Speaker 2: real good time. So I was really looking forward to
Speaker 2: meeting her in person. And thank you for the thumbs downs.
Speaker 2: I mean, I got some devoted haters. Hey, if you
Speaker 2: get pissing somebody off or somebody ain't hating on you,
Speaker 2: you ain't doing something right. So thank you. But it
Speaker 2: never fails every show, at least every live that one
Speaker 2: person will come in and give me a thumbs down.
Speaker 2: So thank you for all your love and support. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: But we hung out there for a while and it
Speaker 2: went from I think it was like twelve o'clock to
Speaker 2: five or six, so I mean it went for quite
Speaker 2: a while. And after wards they were going to have
Speaker 2: like an after party, and I admit it, guys, I
Speaker 2: am that sixty year old mindset in this forty year
Speaker 2: old body. I'm the old man. And Steven will tell you.
Speaker 2: Anytime we go to conferences together, and we've been to
Speaker 2: several together, We've got Airbnb's together, I'm that old man
Speaker 2: that has to be in bed at ten o'clock. And
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. I mean if I actually stay up late,
Speaker 2: like midnight or something like that, when I get wild,
Speaker 2: uh I'm still wide awake at five am, like clockwork.
Speaker 2: It's like my body's programmed. But we we were wrapping
Speaker 2: up and we were picking up our tables and the
Speaker 2: guys were helping me put all my stuff up, and uh,
Speaker 2: Steve's like, well, what do you guys want to do
Speaker 2: because it's me him and being talking and me and
Speaker 2: Bean was like, ah, you know, it's whatever, and uh
Speaker 2: Steve was like, well, I think we should go check
Speaker 2: it out for a little while, you know. And I
Speaker 2: think Ben was on the same page as me, because uh,
Speaker 2: I finally just you know, I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be Debbie down or I'm like,
Speaker 2: but we've hung out with these guys all day for
Speaker 2: two days. I said, I think going back to the
Speaker 2: house and order. It's the pizza and chilling sounds pretty
Speaker 2: good to me. And then when once I said that,
Speaker 2: Ben was like, yeah, that sounds pretty good too, you know.
Speaker 2: He said, we'll get up deep. We'll just go back
Speaker 2: to the house and chill. So we ended up leaving
Speaker 2: there and skipping out on the after party, and we
Speaker 2: got some pizza on the way home and we just
Speaker 2: ate some pizza, hung out on the back ports and
Speaker 2: kind of talked about the day a little bit. Ended
Speaker 2: up going to bed pretty early because I actually had
Speaker 2: a super early flight. Where Steven lives, it's like an
Speaker 2: hour from the airport, but my boarding was like at
Speaker 2: eight o'clock. And I'm one of these guys, dude, I
Speaker 2: have to be there early, at least, you know, hour
Speaker 2: and a half to two hours early, because I've had
Speaker 2: some really close calls and seen some horror stories play out,
Speaker 2: you know, like they have a machine go down or something.
Speaker 2: It really backs the lineup. It takes you forever to
Speaker 2: get to the checkpoint. So I had to get up
Speaker 2: at like four point thirty in the morning, get ready
Speaker 2: and pack all my stuff up. And Steven, thank you,
Speaker 2: I've thanked him a million time, but he ended up
Speaker 2: had to get up, you know, at five o'clock to
Speaker 2: take me to the airport. So definitely went to bed
Speaker 2: early that last night because we had a full day.
Speaker 2: But man, it was just such a good time. Uh.
Speaker 2: And like I said, I've been all these conferences. You
Speaker 2: have all these big speakers and stuff, and it's great
Speaker 2: to meet them, you know what I mean. But to me,
Speaker 2: it was this one was special because there was just
Speaker 2: so many content creators, you know what I mean. Uh,
Speaker 2: Like I said, I got to talk with Jake and
Speaker 2: Jeremiah from Skeeva News Nation, got to schmoos with them, guys,
Speaker 2: Brad Leell from the Awaken podcast, Ben at Tatton from
Speaker 2: Broadcasting Seeds of course, you know Stephen and Ben j
Speaker 2: t follows j C demon Erasers, Zach from the Brian
Speaker 2: Files was there. Seth Laham, you know Seth kick Leider,
Speaker 2: he was there, Uh, Ed Maybrey, I mean, I mean
Speaker 2: it was just I mean you could go on for
Speaker 2: days and days, but it was just so awesome that
Speaker 2: we were all there and got to hang out and
Speaker 2: talk and do some round tables and do some lives
Speaker 2: and stuff. So once again, guys, I said it on
Speaker 2: social media. When I shared it, it was, you know,
Speaker 2: knocked it out of the ark again.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I go to a lot of conferences every year, at
Speaker 2: least try my best to at least go to four
Speaker 2: or five a year. But since I went to bro
Speaker 2: Grove last year, it's like, no, this is my my
Speaker 2: super Bowl. This is the one I look forward to
Speaker 2: all year long. And I don't care. I've skipped out
Speaker 2: on other conferences that's had great speakers that I followed
Speaker 2: and are good friends with. I'm like, no, sorry, you're
Speaker 2: doing at the same time, I'm going to bro Grove.
Speaker 2: That's that's my people, that's my crowd. I absolutely love
Speaker 2: those guys, and I love the listeners. They're the most
Speaker 2: laid back, open minded, accepting people. I just love it. Uh.
Speaker 2: I had so many people come up, you know, I
Speaker 2: got to meet for the first time. And it's funny too,
Speaker 2: because you get used to seeing people in the chat.
Speaker 2: You know, you know em, You're you're always here in
Speaker 2: the chat and pam on some of the people that
Speaker 2: are you know here weekly and you you know, comment
Speaker 2: and I get to see you guys. But there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people that watch that just do not comment,
Speaker 2: you know, they don't comment, they don't get into the chat,
Speaker 2: you know, and stuff like that. And I got to
Speaker 2: meet quite a few of those. So I had some
Speaker 2: people come up it's like, you know, hey, I love
Speaker 2: your show, you know, and all this kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, thank you. You know, I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: what's your handle? You know in the chat? You know,
Speaker 2: maybe I've seen here, maybe you know or something. And
Speaker 2: a lot of them is like, I don't really get
Speaker 2: in the chat, you know, or I just listened to
Speaker 2: the audio side. So it's cool, you know, to meet
Speaker 2: those people, and then you know, I had quite a
Speaker 2: few of them pitch their ideas at me. I had
Speaker 2: one real nice lady, and forgive me, I cannot remember
Speaker 2: her name, but she come up to me at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the whole thing and we talked for probably
Speaker 2: twenty thirty minutes and she was like, yeah, I'm from Florida,
Speaker 2: she said. But when I seen that you were coming,
Speaker 2: and she's like, now I'm going I gotta meet doc.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And she give me some pamphlets to read that she
Speaker 2: had wrote and put down some stuff on it. She's like, hey,
Speaker 2: check this stuff out of the interest. You'll let me know.
Speaker 2: I'd love to, you know, come talk about it. And
Speaker 2: I said, oh sweet, yeah, man, I'll check that out.
Speaker 2: So but I haven't read them yet. I just got
Speaker 2: home a few hours ago. But yeah, I do with
Speaker 2: a really, really great time. I would do it all
Speaker 2: over again. And I might be going to the Truther
Speaker 2: KHN that Jeremiah Skiba is putting on and I think
Speaker 2: Gary Wayne's going to be there. He went last year,
Speaker 2: but we got the talking and he was like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: you should come to the conference, dude. And I was like,
Speaker 2: where is it? And he told me a little bit
Speaker 2: about it. I think it was in Dallas and I
Speaker 2: can't remember the date. I had to look it up,
Speaker 2: but it's not too far off. But I remember I
Speaker 2: didn't have nothing going on. I was like, well, man, yeah,
Speaker 2: I said, I got points on my Allegiant card. I
Speaker 2: fly Allegiant all the time, and Allegiant actually flies directly
Speaker 2: from Ashville to Dallas. Dude. I love Allegiance. I mean,
Speaker 2: you can't drive to these places for that. It's like
Speaker 2: you can go round trip to Ashville to Florida, like Orlando,
Speaker 2: round trip one hundred, fifty hundred and sixty bucks. Hell,
Speaker 2: you couldn't drive you on the gas. And it's the
Speaker 2: same thing Vegas. It's around you know, two hundred bucks
Speaker 2: round trip. Same thing for Dallas. A few years ago,
Speaker 2: me and Steve from the dig Bible podcast went to
Speaker 2: a conference from here the Watchman and we went to Dallas.
Speaker 2: So those are just amazing. You can't be it. But
Speaker 2: the only time I guess you would get in trouble
Speaker 2: is if you're going like a little family vacation and
Speaker 2: you had two or three kids and your wife, then
Speaker 2: it would kind of get expensive. But if you just
Speaker 2: traveling by yourself, man, shoot check out Allegiant. They'll get
Speaker 2: you there cheaply. But guys, I ain't gonna ramble on
Speaker 2: too long. I just wanted to kind of talk about it,
Speaker 2: just get it off my chest, to let you guys know,
Speaker 2: you know, what was happening, what I seen, I experienced,
Speaker 2: and what I thought of it while it was kind
Speaker 2: of fresh on the mind here. But like I said,
Speaker 2: if you guys don't know, Tonight Sunday night, every Sunday,
Speaker 2: at eight pm Eastern Center time, that's when we do
Speaker 2: our live study and reading through Lewis Ginsburg Legends of
Speaker 2: the Jews. So that's just you know, an hour from now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, come back man, check us out. Oh there's
Speaker 2: there's my bro was your ears burning? Stephen? I was
Speaker 2: just talking about you my bro yet nep Sis. It's
Speaker 2: in Dallas, I think in October and November. But NDS,
Speaker 2: Sam Tripley and Gary Wayne. You got a bunch of
Speaker 2: them going Rocket Shepherd. Where was the Brohemian Grove meet
Speaker 2: up this year? It wasn't too far from the one
Speaker 2: they did last year, but it was called Wildwood, Wildwood, Florida.
Speaker 2: They had to rented out the whole convention center down
Speaker 2: there or a rec center, so it was in wild Wood.
Speaker 2: But it was a one day event this year, which
Speaker 2: they had the VIP like I said, that was the
Speaker 2: day before, but that wasn't open to the public. But yeah, man,
Speaker 2: it was just a really great time and Matt Matt
Speaker 2: was a great host. Man has that coffee shop, you know,
Speaker 2: and when we got there, he was just like, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: got a open tab for you guys, get all the
Speaker 2: coffee and stuff you want. I was like, God, dude,
Speaker 2: you're amazing, thank you. But I didn't take advantage of him.
Speaker 2: I got one carmel machiato on ice. Oh superb. It
Speaker 2: was like the I'm not just blowing smoke either, Matt.
Speaker 2: That was like the best caramel machiatto I've ever had.
Speaker 2: I love you too, man, Steven. That's funny. Your ears
Speaker 2: had to have been burning earlier. I was bragging on
Speaker 2: what a good friend you are, man, how you pick
Speaker 2: me up, you know, and take me out and let
Speaker 2: me stay at your house and stuff show for me around.
Speaker 2: Got up at five am to take me to the
Speaker 2: airport so i'd catch my flight. Dude, thank you so
Speaker 2: very much. I love you to death. And I love Britney.
Speaker 2: And that's his wife. I told him when he dropped
Speaker 2: me off this morning, I said, dude, thank you. You
Speaker 2: know it was hugging on him and stuff, and I said,
Speaker 2: you be sure and tell Ritney that I love her
Speaker 2: and I appreciate her so much and she should never change.
Speaker 2: That's like a lot of women, once you get together
Speaker 2: for a while, it's like they don't let the friends
Speaker 2: of the spouse come around, you know, and don't open
Speaker 2: their house up to them. I said, she's cool, tell
Speaker 2: her to stay golden. Okay, Rocky, he said, I'm on
Speaker 2: the inland northwest opposite side of the US. But yeah, man,
Speaker 2: if you guys haven't checked that out too, I plugged
Speaker 2: it earlier. But if you're coming in late, you can
Speaker 2: go to Stephen's channel, the Biblical Hitman. Him and Ben
Speaker 2: did a live after that Friday night VIP event and
Speaker 2: got the talking. But yeah, we went from talking about
Speaker 2: bro Grove to conspiracy theories and then somehow, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but we got we even got into video games and
Speaker 2: talking about you know, what was our first video games
Speaker 2: systems and you know how we progressed and what we
Speaker 2: wound up to, and uh yeah, it was fun. And
Speaker 2: people in the chat seemed to like it too, because
Speaker 2: once we started talking about video games, they started coming
Speaker 2: into chat too. They were like, oh, do you remember
Speaker 2: the the game Genies? You know, you slid the cartridge
Speaker 2: in before you put it into the Super Nintendo and
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, and so a lot of
Speaker 2: us was reminiscent in the chat. You're very welcome, Brittany.
Speaker 2: I mean it. I wouldn't. I wouldn't just trying to
Speaker 2: you know, flatter. Yeah, I meant it, And I know
Speaker 2: from experience. I've been married twice and both of them
Speaker 2: was the ten year curse. Ten years came. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was it. The guys, man, I love you, and sire
Speaker 2: I said, I didn't want to dry out, you know,
Speaker 2: drag this out and make it longer it has to,
Speaker 2: and just ramble. I just wanted to kind of give
Speaker 2: you a little rundown how the show went, what I
Speaker 2: thought about it, and just kind of give you some
Speaker 2: I don't know a little behind the scenes kind of
Speaker 2: how you know, what I seen was going on, what
Speaker 2: I thought of everything, in case you missed it, in
Speaker 2: case you wanted to know, and if not, hey, I
Speaker 2: just liked talking, So I'll just talk to the void man.
Speaker 2: But man, I love you guys. Man, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: sign off here and get ready for our next show,
Speaker 2: which is coming up within the hour. So if you
Speaker 2: guys ain't busy, there's gonna be a lot more subject,
Speaker 2: you know, context in that conversation. We will be reading
Speaker 2: through Lewis Ginsburg Legends of the Jews, always a fun read,
Speaker 2: and some of it, like I always say, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying thus said the Lord, but it's a
Speaker 2: really great cultural context. Deep dive to kind of see
Speaker 2: what was their legends, what did they think, you know,
Speaker 2: And just like eating a bucket of chicken, you're gonna
Speaker 2: find some bones, you know, you throw them bones over
Speaker 2: your shoulder and keep on eating the meat. Son, So
Speaker 2: you find some good nuggets in there that fit I
Speaker 2: mean perfectly into the bob and weave in and out
Speaker 2: like a lot of the stuff that I found with
Speaker 2: Esau answers a lot of ambiguous stuff. But oh, thank
Speaker 2: you in I appreciate you being in the chat man
Speaker 2: and always you know, commenting and stuff like that. That's
Speaker 2: the that's a big, huge help to us. That's a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't realize. You know, your participation don't
Speaker 2: cost you nothing, but man, it helps us a whole
Speaker 2: whole heck of a lot. That's the podcast currency. So
Speaker 2: if you guys are in the chat and you're chatting up,
Speaker 2: throwing up some comments and doing all that kind of
Speaker 2: stuff that kind of pushes the algorithm. They'll get behind
Speaker 2: and you be like, hey, man, these people are enjoying this,
Speaker 2: they're active. Let's push it to more people. So that
Speaker 2: stuff actually helps a ton, But man, love you guys.
Speaker 2: I wanted to sign off here like I said, and
Speaker 2: get ready for tonight's show. If you ain't busy, man,
Speaker 2: come on over, hang out, show up, and show out.
Speaker 2: Getting that chat and we'll read and study together. Do
Speaker 2: you guys got comments or questions? I try to check
Speaker 2: out that chat every so often and try to answer
Speaker 2: those questions or address the comments that you had. It's
Speaker 2: just a really good time in every Sunday eight pm
Speaker 2: Eastern Center time, uh and Mondays. That's why I always
Speaker 2: have my live premieres for my pre recording stuff. That's
Speaker 2: always at six pm Eastern Center time. So come on out, guys.
Speaker 2: The water is fine. Hey, guys, just remember the difference
Speaker 2: between the known and the unknown. That is the journey.
Speaker 2: My friends, it's a good journey.
Speaker 1: So we steal the fire, so stell frozen around.
Speaker 2: They conta