Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fourth of July weekend and I am and
Speaker 1: you are celebrating if you live in the United States.
Speaker 2: This is our document of freedom from England and it
Speaker 2: is a special time to be an American and we
Speaker 2: think of what has happened, what is going to happen,
Speaker 2: and how great it is to live in this country.
Speaker 2: I love the United States and I appreciate it. Hey,
Speaker 2: this is Cliff your host of Earth Ancients, and we
Speaker 2: have really a special addition. We have the team behind
Speaker 2: the Cafree Pyramid project that use this new unique satellite
Speaker 2: imagery or satellite scanning tech known as SAR Synthetic Aperture Radar.
Speaker 2: And we've had a number of different interpretations by people
Speaker 2: who are outside of the scientific team. But today we
Speaker 2: have Filipo Biondi, who is the technician, the SAR technology
Speaker 2: specialist who actually requisition the satellite, this geological satellite and
Speaker 2: tweaked the scanning tech and scan the pyramids and scan
Speaker 2: the Geeza plateau. And there's been so much debate about
Speaker 2: the actual imagery that has been brought back and discussed.
Speaker 2: People are saying they can't pass into the ground, it's
Speaker 2: not truly piercing the Caffree Pyramid. I'm glad to get
Speaker 2: them on the program because in twenty twenty two they
Speaker 2: did the Cufu Pyramid and all these unique rooms and
Speaker 2: shafts and passages were detected, and the Egyptological community immediately
Speaker 2: deny that this was valid without even checking. And so
Speaker 2: we have Filipo today, and we have Armando. He's an
Speaker 2: Egyptologist and a co leader. We don't have Corado Malanga,
Speaker 2: he is in Italy, but we have the man himself, Filipo.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to get a hold of Felipo for
Speaker 2: over a year and you'll hear hear You'll hear me
Speaker 2: today in this interview basically going hey, so great to
Speaker 2: have you on board. So this is really a special
Speaker 2: edition simply because we want to get to the heart
Speaker 2: of this technology. And I have been basically thinking that
Speaker 2: this SAR tech in the hands of archaeologists can wield
Speaker 2: it in the same manner that they willed lightar. And
Speaker 2: if you don't know what light lightar is, light ur
Speaker 2: is used exclusively, almost exclusively for archaeological ruins, and it
Speaker 2: has become a revolution. I think once they tweak the
Speaker 2: data from these satellites this SAR technology will be just
Speaker 2: as potent, just as effective, and likely be another tool
Speaker 2: for looking at archaeological ruins. Now, I have been thinking
Speaker 2: that the data that has come back upsets Egyptologists quite
Speaker 2: a bit because they know they may feel like we're
Speaker 2: crossing into their boundaries. I've been saying for probably over
Speaker 2: a year now that if Egyptology archaeology don't come up
Speaker 2: to speed and start adapting these new technologies, they're going
Speaker 2: to be left in the dust. And when I say technologies,
Speaker 2: I'm not only talking about sorrow. I'm talking about toleric
Speaker 2: field capturing technology that they can use to measure emissions.
Speaker 2: And we know from John Burke, our dearly departed friend
Speaker 2: who passed away, oh my seven eight years ago, that
Speaker 2: using special capture scanning tech, you can measure the frequencies
Speaker 2: of emissions that is coming out of Maya Pyramids. Now
Speaker 2: he went beyond that. He went to Kufu and he
Speaker 2: said that he measured field radiation and other types of emissions,
Speaker 2: as well as going to the Serpent mount in the
Speaker 2: United States and a number of known sites including Tiba
Speaker 2: Tilacan in Mexico, Mexico City, and was able to measure
Speaker 2: emissions from there that location. If archaeology does not come
Speaker 2: up to speed and began adopting these emissions, they're going
Speaker 2: to lose out to it, and a whole another field
Speaker 2: is going to be developed that does begin understanding this
Speaker 2: and also understand that our ancestors, prior to our written history,
Speaker 2: we're using these energies for environmental changes, for physical enhancements
Speaker 2: and health, and probably the sky's the limit. If you
Speaker 2: are pumping positive ions into the atmosphere along with other
Speaker 2: emissions that are causing positive physiological change. It's something to
Speaker 2: be thinking about. And this is a whole new look
Speaker 2: at the ancient past. And as much as I have
Speaker 2: great friends that are archaeologists anthropologists, the closest friends I
Speaker 2: have agree with me that things have to change. You
Speaker 2: go to college, you use and read from one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty year old books, outdated thinking that grant you
Speaker 2: a PhD, but also grants you unfortunately, block thinking, constipated
Speaker 2: opinions of new thought. And this is where the universities
Speaker 2: are beginning to fail. And we have a problem with that.
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to get into a dissertation about
Speaker 2: my problems with archaeology. I think if you're listening to
Speaker 2: Earth ancients, who knows you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: And many of our guests on this program have the
Speaker 2: same feeling that archaeology needs to begin to open their
Speaker 2: eyes a little more. And the real sad thing is
Speaker 2: that the Egyptological community, and I'm speaking of none other
Speaker 2: than Mark Lerner and Zahie Hiuas are the probably the
Speaker 2: worst candidates for disseminating information. If you caught Zahi Owas
Speaker 2: on Joe Rogan's program, it was not only an embarrassment,
Speaker 2: but it's a sad statement about the whole field itself.
Speaker 2: If this is the spokesperson for Egyptology, it's it's they're
Speaker 2: in serious trouble. They're in serious trouble. So we're not
Speaker 2: gonna We're not gonna take this much alonger, We're not gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, I I'm tired of putting up with it.
Speaker 2: I go to Egypt almost every single year. I speak
Speaker 2: to a number of different field archaeologists who are working
Speaker 2: under people like Zahie Owas or similar mentality, and they
Speaker 2: are frustrated and they are likely and I say this
Speaker 2: without too much problem, that in Egypt, the scientists are
Speaker 2: about two to three decades behind the times. Refusing to
Speaker 2: use light ar, refusing to use ground penetrating radar in
Speaker 2: the most basic way is backwards. So but today's program
Speaker 2: is because again we have Filipo Beyondi. He is the
Speaker 2: SARS specialist. He's from Italy and he's going to give
Speaker 2: us an update not only on what they discovered, but
Speaker 2: the applications for synthetic aperture radar in the future and
Speaker 2: what we can expect. So today's program is the Caffrey
Speaker 2: Pyramid project, and my guests are Filipo Beyondi and Armando May.
Speaker 2: If you haven't heard about the Coffree Pyramid project, it
Speaker 2: is a phenomenon that is sweeping the world right now.
Speaker 2: It has to do with a new technology, or perhaps
Speaker 2: a technology that's being reused called SAR, which is a
Speaker 2: synthetic aperture radar. It's a new type of well it
Speaker 2: may not be new, it's probably been used. We're going
Speaker 2: to find out today. But there is a team that
Speaker 2: was put together to use this technology in scanning the
Speaker 2: Giza Pyramids known as the Caffre and the Cufu Pyramids
Speaker 2: and some other phenomenon in that area. We have with
Speaker 2: us today. Felippo Biondi. He is a SAR technology specialist
Speaker 2: who was primarily involved in researching this data and using
Speaker 2: it in the application. We also have Armando May he's
Speaker 2: an Egyptologist. He's also a co leader. We've had Armando
Speaker 2: on the program before. And the third individual is Carnado Malanga.
Speaker 2: He is not available. He was the co leader. But
Speaker 2: we have two out of three, which is excellent and
Speaker 2: I'm really happy to have all my guests today. So hey, guys,
Speaker 2: welcome to Earth Ancients. Great to have you on the program.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank you, okay for your invitation.
Speaker 2: I want to ask I want to ask you both,
Speaker 2: and I'll start with Filipo. When did you determine that
Speaker 2: this technology would work on pyramids? The'sur technology.
Speaker 4: Yes, at the beginning, I had some skepticism to make
Speaker 4: it to work on the pyramids because my technique use
Speaker 4: as the estimation all vibrations that are present on the
Speaker 4: Earth in order to retrive tomographic inversions in order to
Speaker 4: scan underneath. We can say that this technology bond in
Speaker 4: two tie two thousand and eighteen, when in Italy we
Speaker 4: had something. There was a bridge located in Genera in
Speaker 4: north part of Italy and this bridge collapsed and it
Speaker 4: was the it was called the Morandi bridge collapse because
Speaker 4: of a storm happiness in during the during summer was
Speaker 4: this period maybe in August, not now, and so I
Speaker 4: had to in my consciousness, I had to find a
Speaker 4: man in order to prevent this kind of of the situation.
Speaker 4: When storm interferes with bridges and let's say induces this infrastructure,
Speaker 4: the so called the residance frequencies and when the restaurants
Speaker 4: frequency is again, it is very dangerous from the infrastructure.
Speaker 4: And so I started the feasibility to perform investigation on
Speaker 4: using synthetical virtual radar images produced from from space. You know,
Speaker 4: the use of synthetical lecture radar is very is not
Speaker 4: innovative because the radar is very is a well done
Speaker 4: technology that is located in the state of the art compound.
Speaker 4: And also synthetical actual radar on such lights because there
Speaker 4: are from a lot of time. But the innovation key
Speaker 4: point was given by the evaluation of metal that that
Speaker 4: makes available the so called communication channel given by vibrations.
Speaker 4: Vibrations are a tiny movement of the earth and we
Speaker 4: know that the acoustics are predominant, predominant, predominantly probably propagating,
Speaker 4: propagating through the matter. And the more is dense and
Speaker 4: the better is the feasibility to transmit this acoustic information
Speaker 4: because can be done using by a higher velocity.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 4: We started to do some experiments and experiments. All the
Speaker 4: experiments I did are everyone published on academic journals be reviewed.
Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen, I met our team leader which is
Speaker 4: the professor of Korada Malanga.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 4: Professor at the University of Pisa and now he's retired.
Speaker 4: And in that time he was studying the Pyramid of
Speaker 4: and so also I was resonating on his topics and
Speaker 4: I asked asked him, ask him to make some work
Speaker 4: together and I proposed him to use the evaluation of
Speaker 4: synthetical virtual radar data. In the time, there was only
Speaker 4: one research group working scientifically on the pyramids. That that
Speaker 4: is also today the Scampyramid project. This Campyramid project that
Speaker 4: uses the information given by MOS. Yes, some particles that
Speaker 4: are transmitted from the universe, and this Campyramid project uses
Speaker 4: these particles in order to scan inside any amount. But
Speaker 4: we are using something different. So now we are there
Speaker 4: is a second research group that scientifically is working not
Speaker 4: only on the Pyramids but on all the Giza Plato,
Speaker 4: which is our research group. That is the cover research problem.
Speaker 2: Okay, Amandel, was the was the satellite requisition by you
Speaker 2: or did you already? Did you take existing data and
Speaker 2: use that with the scan?
Speaker 3: Maybe could because it's more Yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, we use as we used. We use at the
Speaker 4: moment data that are collected, just collected by by satellites.
Speaker 4: The satellites is imaged. You know when the satellite passes
Speaker 4: on the on the and makes a photo.
Speaker 2: So you have to find the longitude latitude specific to
Speaker 2: the actual flight pattern.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you you just everyone can take photos by
Speaker 4: satellites and not everyone can take it.
Speaker 2: So my other question is did you uh pick a
Speaker 2: satellite that is known?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Obviously it has the star technology in it. But prior
Speaker 2: to scanning the pyramids, was the specific type of scan
Speaker 2: used for geology?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yes. The snapshots are all stored into the company database.
Speaker 4: Who wants can or buy the data or if they
Speaker 4: are very available for philanthropic activities, it is our case
Speaker 4: you can have data for free. In this case, I
Speaker 4: we asked the Capella Space, which is an American company,
Speaker 4: and we start working with open source data, so not
Speaker 4: only us, but everyone can manage this data. That is
Speaker 4: a photo. Let's say, let's say like that it's like
Speaker 4: a photo. It is more more, much more, let's say,
Speaker 4: in terms of information, has more than a simple picture.
Speaker 4: But let's consider it like a picture. And this picture
Speaker 4: has been reprocessed in order to extrapolate the vibrations of
Speaker 4: all the Giza plato.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you explained to us that this star technology
Speaker 2: captures the vibration. Yes, uh, and then you get back
Speaker 2: raw data and then you as the technician have to
Speaker 2: interpret that correct.
Speaker 4: Yes, we have we have the let's say they know
Speaker 4: how in order to extrapolate vibrations from synthetical actual data,
Speaker 4: which is, let's say they se this process. Once we
Speaker 4: have the vibrations, we do the analysis, the so called
Speaker 4: the tomographic inversion in order to watch what there is underneath.
Speaker 2: Okay, what there's a lot of questions about the actual
Speaker 2: depth of this technology. How deep I hear some people
Speaker 2: say it can go up to two miles underground, some
Speaker 2: people say several hundred feet. What what is the actual
Speaker 2: depth of of the pyramid of the pyramid peers.
Speaker 4: So the actual depth, the maximum depth debt theoterically our
Speaker 4: technique can gain, can be comparaible to in terms of
Speaker 4: time delay. Because time delays. This is very important. Any
Speaker 4: geological tool does not measure a distance directly. The stances
Speaker 4: are measured are measured by time delay. Why because the
Speaker 4: space a distance is measured measured in terms of matter density,
Speaker 4: Because the acoustic information is propagating propagating only inside the matter,
Speaker 4: and the more the matter density is the better, the
Speaker 4: higher is velocity, So more space is done by the
Speaker 4: acoustic information. Approximately, the maximum debt that we can reach
Speaker 4: can be in the order roll five kilometers below. Okay,
Speaker 4: in the in the scans that we made on the
Speaker 4: Giza plateau, we approximately estimated the distance underneath on about
Speaker 4: one point two or three one point to one point
Speaker 4: five kilometers.
Speaker 2: Kilometers. What is that, Armando? Is that like, uh, that's
Speaker 2: like as as like seven.
Speaker 4: Hundred in mice. I don't remember the.
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
Speaker 4: We have to convert kilometers in mice, which is I think.
Speaker 2: I'll convert it here in a second, Armando, you joined
Speaker 2: this team? What a couple of years ago? Were you
Speaker 2: part of the CUFU scan group as well. Did you
Speaker 2: what I mean? I think you sent me some photographs
Speaker 2: of that early scan of the of the Cufu Pyramid
Speaker 2: and it was phenomenal. There was new rooms that were discovered,
Speaker 2: there were new channels that radical What was the response
Speaker 2: of the community to that? I thought it was pretty good,
Speaker 2: but some people felt that you were making stuff up.
Speaker 3: Yes, I had to say that.
Speaker 5: I joined the group of research the first September twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two because I was studying the northern shaft of
Speaker 5: the Queen's chamber inside the Kuful Pyramids, because I together
Speaker 5: read Manusep Zadek and Jean Paulbolau, because we noted some
Speaker 5: interesting details that could suggest possible existence of unknown chambers inside.
Speaker 3: The Great Pyramid.
Speaker 5: And in that period I noted the stands of the
Speaker 5: made by Philippo and Corrado that were working on the
Speaker 5: Kufu Pyramid, and I noted also three D models that
Speaker 5: they showed during a conference, and looking at the three
Speaker 5: D I noted that there was a possible connection between
Speaker 5: an environment connected to the northern shaft of the Queen's
Speaker 5: chambers and the environment detected by Coroado and Filippo Biondi.
Speaker 5: That is why I enter in contact with them and
Speaker 5: we discuss very We had a very interesting discussion about
Speaker 5: their work and partially about my job that I was made.
Speaker 5: I made also on the Confre pyramid because as you know,
Speaker 5: according to a multidiscipliney model of analysis based on mathematics
Speaker 5: and geometry, I discovered a connection between the Confree pyramid
Speaker 5: and the number under thirty seven and it is a
Speaker 5: basic number in physics because it's from tech number originated
Speaker 5: the main three laws of physics. It means that Thatch
Speaker 5: code if is connected to the Kafree pyramid. It means
Speaker 5: that to build the pyramids already manage this code, this number.
Speaker 5: That is why I believe that was very important to
Speaker 5: approach the study of the entire Giza Platol, so not
Speaker 5: only the pyramids and the Sphinx, but also the birds,
Speaker 5: the two temples beneath the pyramids, and so because I
Speaker 5: believe there is a global project, so all the monuments
Speaker 5: are connected among them, and the scans through the the
Speaker 5: r is showing that all the underground of Giza is connected.
Speaker 5: So we decide to move together in this new kind
Speaker 5: of study India, for to understand what is the purpose
Speaker 5: of the Giza Plato. So with this idea to move
Speaker 5: with the co for research project. That leads us to
Speaker 5: the conference of last March when we revealed the first
Speaker 5: image of the underground of Pisa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. Now, one of the issues regarding this star
Speaker 2: scan is using other methods to validate what has been discovered.
Speaker 2: In other words, how do you follow up on just
Speaker 2: a scan? And I think that one of the positive
Speaker 2: outcomes was the scan of the Osiris shaft and you
Speaker 2: are able to scan this and also validate the entire
Speaker 2: shaft itself from top to bottom, which is a validation,
Speaker 2: isn't it. Pardon me, I can't talk. Would you say
Speaker 2: that's a validation of your work?
Speaker 4: Yes, the validation is very important because when we are
Speaker 4: measuring something that we know anything about it, we need
Speaker 4: with using the technique, the same technique as to be
Speaker 4: validated in order to have a comparation order of market,
Speaker 4: so we can say we are what we are watching.
Speaker 4: So what we are measuring is like calibrating our measurement equipment.
Speaker 4: So we studied everything beginning from the laboradory. This I
Speaker 4: can suggest to watch the conference that we that we
Speaker 4: made in Malta. Because there is has been explained explained
Speaker 4: the very in the in the DALs. So we started
Speaker 4: from the laboratory where we was simulating the equipment that
Speaker 4: we use it on the satellite. So in poratory we
Speaker 4: have a tune the technique using optical images. Once we
Speaker 4: were able to scan let's say small inside a small
Speaker 4: test environment located in laboratory, we moved approaching the technique
Speaker 4: using the first satellite images and we scanned inside the
Speaker 4: environment where we knew exactly what we had to watch.
Speaker 4: So we scanned inside the mountains where we knew exactly
Speaker 4: what we had to know, specific tunnels, specific large infrastructure
Speaker 4: where we knew exactly what we had to what we
Speaker 4: are what we were watching. For example, we scanned inside
Speaker 4: the Grand Sas Todalia, which is a mountain located in
Speaker 4: the central part of Italy, where inside in the core
Speaker 4: of the mountain there is a physics laboratory and the
Speaker 4: physics laboratory where was detected and also evaluated the details
Speaker 4: inside the laboratory. The laboratory is located currently located one
Speaker 4: point four kilometers with respect to the top of the mountain,
Speaker 4: so this is very important. Once we tuned our software
Speaker 4: like that we were using test sites. We began scanning
Speaker 4: the Klungkufu pyramid. So we are referring on the work
Speaker 4: that we did. I did do it Coroado, Malolanga in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two and we have we have measured t
Speaker 4: things that after six months. Also Zakia was estimated also
Speaker 4: in C too. I am referring to the nine meters
Speaker 4: long accordedor that he announced to that he announced that the.
Speaker 2: Discussion in the corner that's above the entrance. Is that
Speaker 2: what you're talking about right, yeah, actually.
Speaker 5: Called the small void, so called small boyd Yes, okay,
Speaker 5: And we.
Speaker 4: Have the big discorder or previously the discover in C
Speaker 4: to discover discover that Jakia was made and we can
Speaker 4: see and we can say that with Zakia was because
Speaker 4: he have a validated tower metal. So this is very important.
Speaker 4: And then once we had the chance to see that
Speaker 4: the things were working, was working, we're working. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: we moved to scarn all the Jizabrato and so now
Speaker 4: we are able to announce our measurements that I say
Speaker 4: it has to be validated within seedweck excavations, but with
Speaker 4: a certain probability that in my personal opinion is very high.
Speaker 4: We can announce that under each pyramid there are shafts
Speaker 4: spirits with the spira nature that are that are belonging
Speaker 4: underneath for a lot of meters.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
Speaker 2: our sponsors to identify themselves and we will return shortly
Speaker 2: with my guests today Filippo beyond the and Armando May
Speaker 2: discussing the Cafree Pyramid project. Will be right back.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 2: My guests today are Felipo Biondi and Armando May, two
Speaker 2: of the three team members on the Caffrey Pyramid project
Speaker 2: that took place last year and has had phenomenal results
Speaker 2: from their satellite scan. Yeah, Armando, give us some more
Speaker 2: information about the chefts that have these I guess is
Speaker 2: it a walkway or a stairway that kind of follows
Speaker 2: down into the ground.
Speaker 5: Well, of course, before to l the precise answer, we
Speaker 5: have to explore the underneath of Giza and we hope
Speaker 5: that in the future we can achieve the pyramits to
Speaker 5: explore the underground. Meanwhile, we are examining them tomographies and
Speaker 5: we are trying to understand what lies beneath the pyramids.
Speaker 5: There are shafts that archaracterized by spirits that goes from.
Speaker 3: Down to up.
Speaker 5: And I believe that if we talk about one kilometers
Speaker 5: point too, I believe that we cannot talk about staircase.
Speaker 5: But in my personal opinion, I believe that the spirits
Speaker 5: may be some kind of metals that characterize the shops.
Speaker 5: But it's only my opinion for twelve a certainty we
Speaker 5: must excavate on the gist of Pats of India fort
Speaker 5: to find the correct solution to this mystery. But as
Speaker 5: I said to you, in my opinion, the only answer
Speaker 5: that we can give in this moment, it is just
Speaker 5: only an opinion. And as I said, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: it's metal.
Speaker 2: When we look at these scans, it makes us think
Speaker 2: about Christian's book that these are machines rather than tombs.
Speaker 2: A Filippo, what is your feeling either of the Kufu
Speaker 2: or the Caffreine pyramids in terms of what their role was.
Speaker 4: Yes, I thanks Christopher DNA that was very patient to
Speaker 4: also to join us at the YouTube channel of nicol
Speaker 4: Chicolo and we had a very nice transmission streaming talking
Speaker 4: about this task. Of course, Yes, the Jessa Plateau, so
Speaker 4: I agree with the with with the Christopher Dunn. So
Speaker 4: what we can say in my personal obinion is this
Speaker 4: the Jisa plateau has to be considered entirely from north
Speaker 4: south east west underneath up to the stars in terms
Speaker 4: of calibration on calibrated two stars.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: It has to be considered entirely. It is can have
Speaker 4: more than one purpose, of course, but it is not
Speaker 4: possible to consider separately the things. So the pyramid is
Speaker 4: things separately, but entirely, and considering what we are discovering
Speaker 4: these days, the pyramids are can be considered the like
Speaker 4: hats that are located on the Giza platoon. Two weeks
Speaker 4: ago we had a very nice conference in Florence where
Speaker 4: we met the pink lefamily and Mario Ping was an
Speaker 4: Egypto egyptologist very famous that he discovered for the first
Speaker 4: time the jug, which is that multiliyer monument that is
Speaker 4: located inside the Kunum Kufu pyramid that is located on
Speaker 4: the top of the king's chamber. So the jug is
Speaker 4: a monument that is made all in granite and it
Speaker 4: is separated from the structure of the pyramid. So it
Speaker 4: is like that all the pyramid is like a caver
Speaker 4: that is on top of the Jiesa plateau in order
Speaker 4: to preserve something or to make a propagate something that
Speaker 4: is very near to vibetions. So all the gesab Plato.
Speaker 4: To know really what the Jesus Plata was, we have
Speaker 4: to go to watch things personally, so we have to excavate. No, excavate,
Speaker 4: not so much. I suggest you again to see the
Speaker 4: I to see the Moulta conference that we did, because
Speaker 4: there there are something about the shafts, very important about
Speaker 4: the shafts that are visible inside from the surface of
Speaker 4: the outside, from the surface of the Giese Plato.
Speaker 3: But let's see.
Speaker 4: And so it is true. I convinced myself that the
Speaker 4: pyramids can be considered only the tip of the iceberger
Speaker 4: of something very huge colors that is located underneath.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Armando, what is your feeling of the potential purpose?
Speaker 2: And also, while you're on that subject, does it seem
Speaker 2: like this is a dynastic invention or is it pretty
Speaker 2: dynastic Some very early people made these big machines.
Speaker 3: Well, you know that.
Speaker 5: I am in the field of Egyptology since twenty five
Speaker 5: years and I started from the academic field because I
Speaker 5: studied the most famous Egyptologists such as Petrie Salimasan a gardener,
Speaker 5: George Art and Williams and so on. Because I was
Speaker 5: fascinated by the Pyramids party earlier, but a long the time,
Speaker 5: I noted many clues suggesting that the Egyptians during the
Speaker 5: Fourth Dynasty were not able to build such a kind
Speaker 5: of monuments because of the architectural engineering features, but also
Speaker 5: because of the logistics. You know that, for example, the
Speaker 5: Great Pyramid, the King's chambers is composed by granite blocks
Speaker 5: of the weight of seventy tones that were transported from
Speaker 5: the Aswan quarries that are nine hundred kilometers from Gisa.
Speaker 5: So it is really very hard to suggest the possible
Speaker 5: construction of those monuments during the Dynastic Age. Moreover, inside
Speaker 5: the pyramids were not found any kind of hieroglyphics, for
Speaker 5: example celebrating the pharaohs, or all traces of funery.
Speaker 3: Varied and so on.
Speaker 5: So in my PI started to study the alternative theories,
Speaker 5: and as I wrote in my English book The Secrets
Speaker 5: of the Gods, I described my opinion. It is not
Speaker 5: in opinion, but is a very scientific study based on
Speaker 5: multidisciplinary patterns of investigation, based on astronomy, mathematics and physics
Speaker 5: and geometry, showing a world that is really fascinating because
Speaker 5: of the connection with the mathematical constant for example, of
Speaker 5: all monuments involved in the global project with astronomer and
Speaker 5: so I believe that the Ulisa Patuc was built by
Speaker 5: a preceding civilization that lived on Earth in the ancient past.
Speaker 5: Now who were I don't know, but the myth for example,
Speaker 5: for example, the Book of Death, all the text of
Speaker 5: itful for example, just the existence of a preceding civilization
Speaker 5: that was destroyed in the ancient past by a cataclysm
Speaker 5: that destroyed the preceding civilization. So, in my opinion, the
Speaker 5: Giza Parto is witness of this civilization that lived on
Speaker 5: the on Earth and then relieved all aground the world
Speaker 5: monuments that are very similar. So I believe that it
Speaker 5: was a global civilization. They lived in South America and Africa,
Speaker 5: Europe and Asia, Middle East and so on, So a
Speaker 5: global civilization that lived before us.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Filippo, what is your opinion of the technology behind
Speaker 2: the Giza Pyramids. Do you think it's something that was
Speaker 2: part of the dynastics that we know of, or was
Speaker 2: it something that is from a large civilization.
Speaker 4: In your opinion, yes, in that I am not expecting this.
Speaker 4: I have to say that I'm not expected. But now
Speaker 4: are some years that I am studying the Pyramids from
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen since now. But I tell you again that
Speaker 4: I am not expected. So this is what I'm saying
Speaker 4: is related to my personal opinion, and also according to
Speaker 4: the books written by people that are more expected than me,
Speaker 4: and also the books of Armando, I could understand that
Speaker 4: there was another civilization before let's call it a catastrophic event.
Speaker 4: I believe in the exact type, there was a time
Speaker 4: that where when the Pyramids were built, but not the Pyramids,
Speaker 4: the Giza Plateau was built. Because the Pyramids are can
Speaker 4: be considered that the end of this colossal work that
Speaker 4: were made. The Gizza Plateau was built by an ancient
Speaker 4: civilization where some kind of technology based on maybe based
Speaker 4: on acoustics, and so this civilization was able to do
Speaker 4: we are just discovering now. So when I'm saying that
Speaker 4: civilization debt where leaving they the territory, let's call it
Speaker 4: off km before during a zetep. Let's say that.
Speaker 2: Right in the images taken of the Kufu Pyramid. There
Speaker 2: are descending shafts that go deep under the surface of
Speaker 2: the of the of the area. Was is it your
Speaker 2: belief that this was used to suck water out of
Speaker 2: the nile or did you go and analyze it a
Speaker 2: little further after the scans were done to determine what
Speaker 2: these descending shafts are because in the rendering of the
Speaker 2: data they're very very deep and very large.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the different infrastructures that we have found that
Speaker 4: we found are very huge and they go very deep.
Speaker 4: Thank you for these questions because a lot of people
Speaker 4: are asking us information about these shafts. The correlated to
Speaker 4: the water table that is located underneath. Also there is
Speaker 4: water underneathings.
Speaker 3: We have.
Speaker 4: Estimated that we have found. Also we have correlating our
Speaker 4: results with water. Again, I suggest to suggest the people
Speaker 4: to watch the confidence we had the model, because what's
Speaker 4: very important this confidence. And there we we did. We
Speaker 4: we said a lot of things technically once related to
Speaker 4: the water, the shafts, the particular shape given by the
Speaker 4: shafts because they have a spiral nature, so there is
Speaker 4: it is something spiral like that that goes down. Because
Speaker 4: we are watching this nature on the on the on
Speaker 4: our measurements, So we are measured measuring something that is
Speaker 4: not an addural. We are measuring something that has a
Speaker 4: spiral behavior. And we are also measuring that these shafts
Speaker 4: are very huge and very deep and they go also
Speaker 4: below the water.
Speaker 3: Day.
Speaker 5: Yes, I want, I would like to add some information
Speaker 5: on the correlation between the Giza Plateau and the water,
Speaker 5: partly salt water, because you have to know that. In
Speaker 5: nineteen twenty two, German geologist announce the discover of a
Speaker 5: river connecting the Mediterranean Sea with the desert of Libya
Speaker 5: and Egypt. Fine I found artificial channels going towards maybe
Speaker 5: also Giza and the Tatara Depression, and the river contained saltwater.
Speaker 5: I was called Ornil, the twin net with the will
Speaker 5: the denial. And also in nineteen twenty nine two geologists
Speaker 5: of the University of Chicago made an interesting survey in
Speaker 5: the regional Fayoum discovering channels, artificial channels leading towards north
Speaker 5: to towards Giza containing southwater. So it's very interesting to
Speaker 5: underline that there is a place on the Giza plateaul
Speaker 5: party that some both the birth that is characterized by
Speaker 5: conduits and channels that goes underneath, and there is an
Speaker 5: interesting and impressive water erosion and also traces of sodium.
Speaker 5: So it is possible that the tomb of the birds
Speaker 5: was basing characterized by salt water that was connected to
Speaker 5: the network developed in the underground that we are discovering
Speaker 5: with the SAAR. So it is very interesting. I will
Speaker 5: explain better this topic at the conference in Chicago the
Speaker 5: Global Pyramid on September. So it is interested could found
Speaker 5: information on the Global Pyramid network dot com and I
Speaker 5: will explain better this topic because I believe it's very
Speaker 5: very important to understand the possible function of all the
Speaker 5: structures of geese, as the monuments on surface and the
Speaker 5: network underneath.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been down to the subterranean shaft in
Speaker 2: the Kufu Pyramid and when you get down there, all
Speaker 2: those stones look to be water eroded.
Speaker 5: Water was particularly the subterranean chambers, to the floor of
Speaker 5: the subterranean chambers, and also the structures the wall present
Speaker 5: water erosion. So it means that in the chambers.
Speaker 3: There was water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be. We're going to take a
Speaker 2: short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves
Speaker 2: and we will return shortly with my guest stars, technician
Speaker 2: Filippo Bioni and archaeologist Armando May discussing their work on
Speaker 2: the Caffre Pyramid project. We'll return shortly. Today's interview is
Speaker 2: highlighting the new technology known as SARS, which is synthetic
Speaker 2: aperture radar, which will revolutionize our understanding of archaeological sites
Speaker 2: and also a way of looking into our ancient past. Filippo,
Speaker 2: in the images of the Caffree interior of the pyramid,
Speaker 2: there seems to be five different relieving chambers. There's only
Speaker 2: one that we know of in the Kufu Pyramid. Was
Speaker 2: are any egypt trilogists confirming that there's five or there?
Speaker 2: Are they still waiting the yes inspect these.
Speaker 4: Thank you for this question. We are measuring five structures
Speaker 4: that are similar like the jet. The unique structure that
Speaker 4: is located and I repeat was discovered for the first
Speaker 4: time by Mario Binkle, which is the jet.
Speaker 3: So the function of the.
Speaker 4: Yes according to this to this we can say this.
Speaker 4: According to this correlation, we measured acoustic activities where were
Speaker 4: we are depicting the structures multi multilayer structures very similar
Speaker 4: like the one is present in the So we because
Speaker 4: of several confirmation of these measurements were done using different satellites. Also,
Speaker 4: we are confident that the treaty model that we have
Speaker 4: depicted and showed, so the model concerning the upper part
Speaker 4: of the Kfre pyramid where we are depicting five structures
Speaker 4: like the one that are present that is present in
Speaker 4: the CLUNKOFU. We are confident. The moment, we we don't
Speaker 4: have confirmation because because could be nice when the results
Speaker 4: of this Campyramid project may be cold to confirm our
Speaker 4: our hypothesis that it is not a hypothesis. Be attention,
Speaker 4: let's let's focus on this are measurements. The hypothesis that
Speaker 4: we're done was passing from the measurements to the three
Speaker 4: D model. Okay, that it is an hypothesis given by
Speaker 4: our reconstruction. So from the measurements to the image three
Speaker 4: D model. Okay, So when the Campyramid project will give
Speaker 4: their results, we can can be.
Speaker 3: A very.
Speaker 4: Nice opportunity to match the results the Moon results with
Speaker 4: our results. Okay. So oh, we are leaving all this planet.
Speaker 4: Everyone is leaving on this planet, so we have to collaborate.
Speaker 2: It is not.
Speaker 4: A nice thing to be separated. So when this s
Speaker 4: Campyramid project is also are available, we maybe match everything
Speaker 4: together and give it better.
Speaker 2: And I love what you're saying, Philippo, but the problem
Speaker 2: with the Scan Pyramid group is they work with the
Speaker 2: Antiquities Department and only a small portion of their data
Speaker 2: has been released to the public. And this is the
Speaker 2: real problem. And I love the fact that you guys
Speaker 2: just said, we're doing it, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 2: We're scared. We're scanning the pyramid and we're going to
Speaker 2: report our data. The Scan Pyramid people mentioned this void
Speaker 2: above the King's Chamber, but then we're not allowed to
Speaker 2: release the data.
Speaker 5: They We are waiting since twenty fifteen the results of
Speaker 5: the Skin Pyramids. Ten years has passed passed, but until
Speaker 5: now we don't have any kind of scientific evidence of
Speaker 5: their job. They're discovers and not so I hope that
Speaker 5: one day the Scan Pyramids will release the content of
Speaker 5: their work in the effort to comperate their data with ours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but have either one of you spoken to anybody
Speaker 2: at the Scan Pyramid organization to determine what that void
Speaker 2: above the King's chamber is or are they not releasing
Speaker 2: the data.
Speaker 4: Yes, in my personal opinion, it's true. Yes, the scam
Speaker 4: Pyramid project to give us the announcement of a big
Speaker 4: void on the Grand Gale a little, but they don't
Speaker 4: know exactly the position orientation. Okay, it is this an
Speaker 4: important opportunity to join together us because we have our
Speaker 4: results where we have seen also the big void. But
Speaker 4: not because we are more professional than them, I'm not
Speaker 4: saying this, but also we've found something that can be
Speaker 4: related to.
Speaker 2: A big void.
Speaker 4: Just correlating, correlating the results using two independent research group
Speaker 4: will give us the certainly, the certain certainty to have
Speaker 4: located in the space exactly the space the big void,
Speaker 4: or just I make you the example of the corridor,
Speaker 4: the nine meters corridor, the nine meters corridor where was
Speaker 4: estimated by us and published to the results and estimated
Speaker 4: by the Scampyramian project six months later with respect to us,
Speaker 4: they published the results after this. After this, zachiawas made
Speaker 4: the in C to performation. So he made the the
Speaker 4: the in C two measurements with a small camera and
Speaker 4: so announced that everyone they discovered the existence of this corridor.
Speaker 4: But when I made it, I correlated my results with
Speaker 4: them and so everything matched. So it is only to
Speaker 4: stress the fact that research groups has to collaborate, not
Speaker 4: be divided by I don't I don't know what.
Speaker 2: Yes, but my question to either of you is why
Speaker 2: has all the scanned pyramid data been released to the public.
Speaker 2: Why are they keeping certain parts of that data quiet?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's why. I don't know. I don't know what amount.
Speaker 3: I don't know me too, I don't know. Maybe they
Speaker 3: end to that.
Speaker 2: I mean it's been you know, like you said, it's
Speaker 2: been since twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen they did their work, so.
Speaker 5: You know, this is I agree with with the Philippo
Speaker 5: because I believe that Sacawas should be smarter on that topic,
Speaker 5: and because it's it is very important to collaborate between
Speaker 5: the project or research. So I don't know. I don't
Speaker 5: understand why we drove conferences because of the presen the
Speaker 5: Italian team. It was it isn't a great opportunity to
Speaker 5: share knowledge, experiences, data in the interest of humanity, not
Speaker 5: in the interest of Zakia Wwass or Mandomeea, Flippo Boni
Speaker 5: or Coradoblaga, but in the interest of humankind that have
Speaker 5: that must know what happened in the engine past? What
Speaker 5: are our origins? So it's it's very important the collaborations
Speaker 5: between men, between groups of research and so on. So
Speaker 5: I suggest to Zakiawas and this team to be more
Speaker 5: smarter on that topic and to start to have a
Speaker 5: different point of view in the effort to find the
Speaker 5: common path of research that could help us to understand
Speaker 5: what happened in the engine.
Speaker 2: Post Armando real quickly on that subject. Why would and
Speaker 2: this is a possibility, and this is being a little
Speaker 2: pid on my part. Why is there a reason why
Speaker 2: the Egyptological community and the Antiquities department in Egypt we
Speaker 2: want to hold on and repress data. Is it because
Speaker 2: in our worst thoughts that they don't want us to
Speaker 2: know about an ancient civilization that may have been highly
Speaker 2: sophisticated prior to our written history.
Speaker 5: So you know in my opinion that it's in my opinion,
Speaker 5: my personal opinion, if we could show that in the
Speaker 5: ancient past, before our civilization, there was another human civilization
Speaker 5: that gave birth to our civilization, it is a reason
Speaker 5: of proud for the Egyptians that are the seats of
Speaker 5: the recient civilization of the modern civilization and it could
Speaker 5: improve also the tourism, for example. It's very important for
Speaker 5: the Egyptians authority to understand that because we can show
Speaker 5: that in the ancient past there was a human civilization
Speaker 5: that built the pyramids and all the Gista, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: is very important for the Egyptians to all and then
Speaker 5: for the humanity. So I don't understand why they are so.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: They don't want to discuss with us, and the egypt
Speaker 6: Egyptology community is not open to this kind of discussion.
Speaker 3: I don't understand why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very suspicious, very strange. Filippo Trevor Grassi has
Speaker 2: been working with William Brown, and William did some ground
Speaker 2: penetrating radar many years ago and discover an intricate tunnel
Speaker 2: system in the is a plateau in your skins. Have
Speaker 2: you found or have you followed his suggested area where
Speaker 2: there's tunnels and if so, do they lead to the
Speaker 2: Nile or have you discovered a path?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: I thanks Turbo Grassy because he contributed to give us
Speaker 4: some suggestion in order to scan the dia plata. We
Speaker 4: at the moment we are, we know the moment we
Speaker 4: have scanned already some particular shafts vertical shafts that are
Speaker 4: visible from the Diga Plato and more exactly on the
Speaker 4: space belonging between the Caffe pyramid and the sphinx. There
Speaker 4: are some shofts that has a squared base that goes underneath.
Speaker 4: But at certain depth there are they are blocked by
Speaker 4: soil something that can cannot that are blocked, that is
Speaker 4: blocking the shaft. So we have measured those shafts and
Speaker 4: we have seen that they go deta underneath, and so
Speaker 4: we are considering those like an entrance possibility to entrance
Speaker 4: at let's say, the the connections or all inside all
Speaker 4: the tunnels that are located underneath. So that shafts, if
Speaker 4: we do some cleaning a t it is on those shafts,
Speaker 4: maybe we can entrance in the so called the city
Speaker 4: that is located underneath. Just to tell you, in the
Speaker 4: Joe Rogan Experience broadcast, when zakiawas was interviewed by Joe
Speaker 4: that I I thanks Joe to cite us several times
Speaker 4: in his broadcast, Zaki Professora was told Joe that he
Speaker 4: was open to have a contact with us.
Speaker 3: So we are.
Speaker 2: We are available now and yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4: This is my mail. Yeah, and he can write me
Speaker 4: when he wants. This is my email.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're looking at that. I'll make sure we put
Speaker 2: that on our video. I actually know a couple of
Speaker 2: his producers, So if you want to go on, Joe Rogan,
Speaker 2: I can help you with that. This should be a problem.
Speaker 2: As we conclude, my friends, give us an idea what
Speaker 2: the future holds for your research in the Giza Plateau. Obviously,
Speaker 2: from a scientific perspective, we want additional validation for what
Speaker 2: you've discovered. Obviously the permissions have to come from the
Speaker 2: Antiquities Department for archaeological digs, any kind of new science
Speaker 2: on the plateau itself. I know for a fact that
Speaker 2: Zahilwass was very unhappy that you didn't go through the
Speaker 2: Antiquities Department before you released your data. Personally, and I
Speaker 2: go to Egypt every year, I thank you all both
Speaker 2: for publishing your data, because it's just you have to
Speaker 2: wait years and years and years and years and years
Speaker 2: for information to come out of the department. So what
Speaker 2: do you see as the future in the Giza Plateau?
Speaker 2: And the final question would be do you think Sar
Speaker 2: will be like Ldar in the future where science will
Speaker 2: use it on a regular basis.
Speaker 4: And I answered, okay, I answered your last question for
Speaker 4: first in my best sound opinion. Yes, because I am
Speaker 4: really convinced on my technique. I am convinced that it
Speaker 4: works very efficiently. What I have to do is to
Speaker 4: improve there is a rules on I have to work
Speaker 4: work more on it. I am aware that maybe some
Speaker 4: tomograms are a bit noisy. Yes, okay, so it has
Speaker 4: to be optimized and that's my job, So why will
Speaker 4: do it. But on the other hand, of course, yes,
Speaker 4: satellite technology is growing up, and it's growing up because
Speaker 4: there are a lot of nice things that are coming
Speaker 4: on the on the stage. And so I believe in
Speaker 4: this in science, and I believe also in the space
Speaker 4: and satellite technology for archaeological purpose. So this is my
Speaker 4: personal opinion and I am very firm.
Speaker 2: On this catage.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, there are two points that are very important.
Speaker 5: First of all, the historical and archaeological purpose of the
Speaker 5: Giza patog because I believe that it's important to explore
Speaker 5: the underground. That of course, also the pyramids, because I
Speaker 5: believe that all the new environments that through the s
Speaker 5: a are we found inside the great the Pyramid of Kufu,
Speaker 5: for example, or into the kaf Pyramid.
Speaker 3: Must be explored to know better what is the.
Speaker 5: The consistence of the those environments. And what is important
Speaker 5: is also to move high in the technological scientific approach
Speaker 5: to the techniques of the protocol beyond the protocol. And
Speaker 5: this is important for example to unknowns that months ago
Speaker 5: we sign an agreement with the Antennato's Foundation of Delaware
Speaker 5: and the Professor Howard ep Stand for the university in
Speaker 5: the effort to study better the technology is applying that
Speaker 5: also in civil application and of course in the archaeological project.
Speaker 5: So I believe that the SAAR is the future for
Speaker 5: archaeology because experimental archaeology and the eyes side of my
Speaker 5: technology not invasive, could there p us to know better
Speaker 5: the mystery solved from many archaeological sites.
Speaker 3: They were built all around the world.
Speaker 2: Fantastic Flippo, BEYONDI and Armando may thank you very much
Speaker 2: for being on the program. Continue success. You guys have
Speaker 2: really done an amazing job, and as somebody who travels
Speaker 2: to Egypt every year, I'm really really happy with the
Speaker 2: work you're doing and I hope that you can continue.
Speaker 2: So thank you.
Speaker 5: For thank you, thank you so much, Cliff, and I
Speaker 5: hope to meet the American community at the two conference.
Speaker 5: Uh okay that we will attend in Denver in August
Speaker 5: at the Ancient Civiliz Ocean Conference and in Chicago to
Speaker 5: the Global Pyramid Conference. And we hope to meet the
Speaker 5: American conference and maybe you oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you guys are doing the you guys are
Speaker 2: doing the Guaya conference.
Speaker 5: A fantastic So we can meet in a person at
Speaker 5: Guya Conference, then that's great, We'll come out and see you.
Speaker 2: Hey much success and thank you both.
Speaker 5: Cheers, thank you, thank you, to you, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 5: thank you.
Speaker 3: Chow.
Speaker 2: I kept getting the sense that this technology is still
Speaker 2: in its infancy and at some point for it to
Speaker 2: be used more widely, there's going to have to be
Speaker 2: a training program that is similar to Lighter, where the
Speaker 2: scans are done and then the data is brought back
Speaker 2: and then it's tuned and cleaned up and used for
Speaker 2: identification of archaeological ruins. I have seen. If you, by
Speaker 2: the way, if you have not seen I have seen
Speaker 2: these three D scans. If you have not seen these scans,
Speaker 2: go to Facebook, go to Earth Ancients and look at
Speaker 2: the actual graphics. They are color, some of them are
Speaker 2: very detailed, some of them are not. And it's again,
Speaker 2: it's a technology that's in its infancy and we're going
Speaker 2: to have to wait until it's refined. There's a great
Speaker 2: number of archaeologists that are just very skeptical of this,
Speaker 2: and understandably so, because it's noise, it's vibration converted to graphs,
Speaker 2: and you don't see really hard evidence like you see
Speaker 2: in the light are so you have to I think
Speaker 2: it has to be taken to the next level, maybe
Speaker 2: SAR two point zero, where you begin to refine the
Speaker 2: data and you get more of a clear definition of
Speaker 2: the chaff or of a tomb or some artifact, so
Speaker 2: it's more id identifiable. An archaeologists perhaps feel more comfortable saying, yes,
Speaker 2: that's a chaff, or that's a room, or this is
Speaker 2: a corridor or something. And that's the key. Now, if
Speaker 2: you saw the CUFU three dimensional representations taken from the stars,
Speaker 2: that's very easy to look at, but that's twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two data, and I think they've refined the actual stars imagery,
Speaker 2: so once you see the graphics you'll know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. They're rough, and they are vibrations, so I
Speaker 2: think there has to be another phase of this technology
Speaker 2: for more white skill acceptance, which makes it something to consider. Again.
Speaker 2: When light Our first came out, there were similar issues
Speaker 2: with imagery. So again I'm calling it synthetic aperture radar
Speaker 2: two point zero, which would be a refined version of
Speaker 2: what we're looking at. So there you go. I hope
Speaker 2: you enjoyed that. I got more details on just how
Speaker 2: the technology works and how it's captured, and we'll be
Speaker 2: hearing more from them because they're going to be doing
Speaker 2: more scanning. In fact, we'll have a similar interview in
Speaker 2: a few weeks with the Hawara group that did the
Speaker 2: Hawara Pyramid in southern Egypt and also captured the underground
Speaker 2: labyrinth with great detail. This imagery was taken in almost
Speaker 2: ten years ago. In fact, we had Carmen Balter on
Speaker 2: the program a couple of times talking about it, so
Speaker 2: we'll get a sense of how far these scans have
Speaker 2: come and the importance of them. So hey, I want
Speaker 2: to mention there. Atlantis Summit is a conference that's coming
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Speaker 2: all the details. All right, that's it for this program.
Speaker 2: I want to think my guest today, Filippo Bioni, coming
Speaker 2: to us from Rome and Armando May coming to us
Speaker 2: also from Rome, discussing the Cafree Pyramid project. As always
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