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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fourth of July weekend and I am and

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<v Speaker 1>you are celebrating if you live in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our document of freedom from England and it

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<v Speaker 2>is a special time to be an American and we

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<v Speaker 2>think of what has happened, what is going to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and how great it is to live in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the United States and I appreciate it. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is Cliff your host of Earth Ancients, and we

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<v Speaker 2>have really a special addition. We have the team behind

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<v Speaker 2>the Cafree Pyramid project that use this new unique satellite

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<v Speaker 2>imagery or satellite scanning tech known as SAR Synthetic Aperture Radar.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've had a number of different interpretations by people

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<v Speaker 2>who are outside of the scientific team. But today we

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<v Speaker 2>have Filipo Biondi, who is the technician, the SAR technology

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<v Speaker 2>specialist who actually requisition the satellite, this geological satellite and

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<v Speaker 2>tweaked the scanning tech and scan the pyramids and scan

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<v Speaker 2>the Geeza plateau. And there's been so much debate about

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<v Speaker 2>the actual imagery that has been brought back and discussed.

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<v Speaker 2>People are saying they can't pass into the ground, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not truly piercing the Caffree Pyramid. I'm glad to get

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<v Speaker 2>them on the program because in twenty twenty two they

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<v Speaker 2>did the Cufu Pyramid and all these unique rooms and

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<v Speaker 2>shafts and passages were detected, and the Egyptological community immediately

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<v Speaker 2>deny that this was valid without even checking. And so

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<v Speaker 2>we have Filipo today, and we have Armando. He's an

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<v Speaker 2>Egyptologist and a co leader. We don't have Corado Malanga,

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<v Speaker 2>he is in Italy, but we have the man himself, Filipo.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to get a hold of Felipo for

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<v Speaker 2>over a year and you'll hear hear You'll hear me

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<v Speaker 2>today in this interview basically going hey, so great to

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<v Speaker 2>have you on board. So this is really a special

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<v Speaker 2>edition simply because we want to get to the heart

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<v Speaker 2>of this technology. And I have been basically thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>this SAR tech in the hands of archaeologists can wield

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<v Speaker 2>it in the same manner that they willed lightar. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't know what light lightar is, light ur

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<v Speaker 2>is used exclusively, almost exclusively for archaeological ruins, and it

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<v Speaker 2>has become a revolution. I think once they tweak the

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<v Speaker 2>data from these satellites this SAR technology will be just

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<v Speaker 2>as potent, just as effective, and likely be another tool

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<v Speaker 2>for looking at archaeological ruins. Now, I have been thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that the data that has come back upsets Egyptologists quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit because they know they may feel like we're

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<v Speaker 2>crossing into their boundaries. I've been saying for probably over

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<v Speaker 2>a year now that if Egyptology archaeology don't come up

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<v Speaker 2>to speed and start adapting these new technologies, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be left in the dust. And when I say technologies,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not only talking about sorrow. I'm talking about toleric

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<v Speaker 2>field capturing technology that they can use to measure emissions.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know from John Burke, our dearly departed friend

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<v Speaker 2>who passed away, oh my seven eight years ago, that

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<v Speaker 2>using special capture scanning tech, you can measure the frequencies

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<v Speaker 2>of emissions that is coming out of Maya Pyramids. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he went beyond that. He went to Kufu and he

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<v Speaker 2>said that he measured field radiation and other types of emissions,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as going to the Serpent mount in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States and a number of known sites including Tiba

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<v Speaker 2>Tilacan in Mexico, Mexico City, and was able to measure

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<v Speaker 2>emissions from there that location. If archaeology does not come

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<v Speaker 2>up to speed and began adopting these emissions, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to lose out to it, and a whole another field

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be developed that does begin understanding this

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<v Speaker 2>and also understand that our ancestors, prior to our written history,

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<v Speaker 2>we're using these energies for environmental changes, for physical enhancements

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<v Speaker 2>and health, and probably the sky's the limit. If you

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<v Speaker 2>are pumping positive ions into the atmosphere along with other

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<v Speaker 2>emissions that are causing positive physiological change. It's something to

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<v Speaker 2>be thinking about. And this is a whole new look

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<v Speaker 2>at the ancient past. And as much as I have

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<v Speaker 2>great friends that are archaeologists anthropologists, the closest friends I

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<v Speaker 2>have agree with me that things have to change. You

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<v Speaker 2>go to college, you use and read from one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty year old books, outdated thinking that grant you

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<v Speaker 2>a PhD, but also grants you unfortunately, block thinking, constipated

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<v Speaker 2>opinions of new thought. And this is where the universities

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<v Speaker 2>are beginning to fail. And we have a problem with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not going to get into a dissertation about

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<v Speaker 2>my problems with archaeology. I think if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>Earth ancients, who knows you know exactly what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>And many of our guests on this program have the

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<v Speaker 2>same feeling that archaeology needs to begin to open their

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<v Speaker 2>eyes a little more. And the real sad thing is

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<v Speaker 2>that the Egyptological community, and I'm speaking of none other

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<v Speaker 2>than Mark Lerner and Zahie Hiuas are the probably the

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<v Speaker 2>worst candidates for disseminating information. If you caught Zahi Owas

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<v Speaker 2>on Joe Rogan's program, it was not only an embarrassment,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a sad statement about the whole field itself.

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<v Speaker 2>If this is the spokesperson for Egyptology, it's it's they're

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<v Speaker 2>in serious trouble. They're in serious trouble. So we're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna We're not gonna take this much alonger, We're not gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I I'm tired of putting up with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to Egypt almost every single year. I speak

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<v Speaker 2>to a number of different field archaeologists who are working

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<v Speaker 2>under people like Zahie Owas or similar mentality, and they

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<v Speaker 2>are frustrated and they are likely and I say this

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<v Speaker 2>without too much problem, that in Egypt, the scientists are

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<v Speaker 2>about two to three decades behind the times. Refusing to

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<v Speaker 2>use light ar, refusing to use ground penetrating radar in

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<v Speaker 2>the most basic way is backwards. So but today's program

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<v Speaker 2>is because again we have Filipo Beyondi. He is the

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<v Speaker 2>SARS specialist. He's from Italy and he's going to give

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<v Speaker 2>us an update not only on what they discovered, but

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<v Speaker 2>the applications for synthetic aperture radar in the future and

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<v Speaker 2>what we can expect. So today's program is the Caffrey

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<v Speaker 2>Pyramid project, and my guests are Filipo Beyondi and Armando May.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't heard about the Coffree Pyramid project, it

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<v Speaker 2>is a phenomenon that is sweeping the world right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to do with a new technology, or perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>a technology that's being reused called SAR, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>synthetic aperture radar. It's a new type of well it

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<v Speaker 2>may not be new, it's probably been used. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to find out today. But there is a team that

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<v Speaker 2>was put together to use this technology in scanning the

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<v Speaker 2>Giza Pyramids known as the Caffre and the Cufu Pyramids

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<v Speaker 2>and some other phenomenon in that area. We have with

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<v Speaker 2>us today. Felippo Biondi. He is a SAR technology specialist

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<v Speaker 2>who was primarily involved in researching this data and using

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<v Speaker 2>it in the application. We also have Armando May he's

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<v Speaker 2>an Egyptologist. He's also a co leader. We've had Armando

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<v Speaker 2>on the program before. And the third individual is Carnado Malanga.

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<v Speaker 2>He is not available. He was the co leader. But

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<v Speaker 2>we have two out of three, which is excellent and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really happy to have all my guests today. So hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Earth Ancients. Great to have you on the program.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank you, thank you, okay for your invitation.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask I want to ask you both,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll start with Filipo. When did you determine that

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<v Speaker 2>this technology would work on pyramids? The'sur technology.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, at the beginning, I had some skepticism to make

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<v Speaker 4>it to work on the pyramids because my technique use

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<v Speaker 4>as the estimation all vibrations that are present on the

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<v Speaker 4>Earth in order to retrive tomographic inversions in order to

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<v Speaker 4>scan underneath. We can say that this technology bond in

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<v Speaker 4>two tie two thousand and eighteen, when in Italy we

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<v Speaker 4>had something. There was a bridge located in Genera in

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<v Speaker 4>north part of Italy and this bridge collapsed and it

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<v Speaker 4>was the it was called the Morandi bridge collapse because

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<v Speaker 4>of a storm happiness in during the during summer was

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<v Speaker 4>this period maybe in August, not now, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>had to in my consciousness, I had to find a

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<v Speaker 4>man in order to prevent this kind of of the situation.

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<v Speaker 4>When storm interferes with bridges and let's say induces this infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 4>the so called the residance frequencies and when the restaurants

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<v Speaker 4>frequency is again, it is very dangerous from the infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I started the feasibility to perform investigation on

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<v Speaker 4>using synthetical virtual radar images produced from from space. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the use of synthetical lecture radar is very is not

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<v Speaker 4>innovative because the radar is very is a well done

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<v Speaker 4>technology that is located in the state of the art compound.

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<v Speaker 4>And also synthetical actual radar on such lights because there

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<v Speaker 4>are from a lot of time. But the innovation key

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<v Speaker 4>point was given by the evaluation of metal that that

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<v Speaker 4>makes available the so called communication channel given by vibrations.

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<v Speaker 4>Vibrations are a tiny movement of the earth and we

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<v Speaker 4>know that the acoustics are predominant, predominant, predominantly probably propagating,

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<v Speaker 4>propagating through the matter. And the more is dense and

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<v Speaker 4>the better is the feasibility to transmit this acoustic information

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<v Speaker 4>because can be done using by a higher velocity.

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 4>We started to do some experiments and experiments. All the

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<v Speaker 4>experiments I did are everyone published on academic journals be reviewed.

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<v Speaker 4>In twenty nineteen, I met our team leader which is

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<v Speaker 4>the professor of Korada Malanga.

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<v Speaker 2>That was.

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<v Speaker 4>Professor at the University of Pisa and now he's retired.

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<v Speaker 4>And in that time he was studying the Pyramid of

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<v Speaker 4>and so also I was resonating on his topics and

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<v Speaker 4>I asked asked him, ask him to make some work

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<v Speaker 4>together and I proposed him to use the evaluation of

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<v Speaker 4>synthetical virtual radar data. In the time, there was only

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<v Speaker 4>one research group working scientifically on the pyramids. That that

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<v Speaker 4>is also today the Scampyramid project. This Campyramid project that

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<v Speaker 4>uses the information given by MOS. Yes, some particles that

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<v Speaker 4>are transmitted from the universe, and this Campyramid project uses

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<v Speaker 4>these particles in order to scan inside any amount. But

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<v Speaker 4>we are using something different. So now we are there

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<v Speaker 4>is a second research group that scientifically is working not

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<v Speaker 4>only on the Pyramids but on all the Giza Plato,

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<v Speaker 4>which is our research group. That is the cover research problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Amandel, was the was the satellite requisition by you

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<v Speaker 2>or did you already? Did you take existing data and

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<v Speaker 2>use that with the scan?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe could because it's more Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we use as we used. We use at the

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<v Speaker 4>moment data that are collected, just collected by by satellites.

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<v Speaker 4>The satellites is imaged. You know when the satellite passes

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<v Speaker 4>on the on the and makes a photo.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to find the longitude latitude specific to

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<v Speaker 2>the actual flight pattern.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, you you just everyone can take photos by

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<v Speaker 4>satellites and not everyone can take it.

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<v Speaker 2>So my other question is did you uh pick a

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<v Speaker 2>satellite that is known?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously it has the star technology in it. But prior

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<v Speaker 2>to scanning the pyramids, was the specific type of scan

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<v Speaker 2>used for geology?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, Yes. The snapshots are all stored into the company database.

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<v Speaker 4>Who wants can or buy the data or if they

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<v Speaker 4>are very available for philanthropic activities, it is our case

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<v Speaker 4>you can have data for free. In this case, I

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<v Speaker 4>we asked the Capella Space, which is an American company,

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<v Speaker 4>and we start working with open source data, so not

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<v Speaker 4>only us, but everyone can manage this data. That is

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<v Speaker 4>a photo. Let's say, let's say like that it's like

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<v Speaker 4>a photo. It is more more, much more, let's say,

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of information, has more than a simple picture.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's consider it like a picture. And this picture

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<v Speaker 4>has been reprocessed in order to extrapolate the vibrations of

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you explained to us that this star technology

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<v Speaker 2>captures the vibration. Yes, uh, and then you get back

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<v Speaker 2>raw data and then you as the technician have to

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we have we have the let's say they know

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<v Speaker 4>the tomographic inversion in order to watch what there is underneath.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what there's a lot of questions about the actual

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<v Speaker 2>people say several hundred feet. What what is the actual

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<v Speaker 4>So the actual depth, the maximum depth debt theoterically our

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<v Speaker 4>time delay. Because time delays. This is very important. Any

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<v Speaker 4>geological tool does not measure a distance directly. The stances

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<v Speaker 4>space a distance is measured measured in terms of matter density,

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<v Speaker 4>Because the acoustic information is propagating propagating only inside the matter,

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<v Speaker 4>acoustic information. Approximately, the maximum debt that we can reach

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<v Speaker 4>can be in the order roll five kilometers below. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>in the in the scans that we made on the

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<v Speaker 4>one point two or three one point to one point

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<v Speaker 2>Kilometers. What is that, Armando? Is that like, uh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>like as as like seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Hundred in mice. I don't remember the.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to convert kilometers in mice, which is I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll convert it here in a second, Armando, you joined

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<v Speaker 2>this team? What a couple of years ago? Were you

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<v Speaker 2>part of the CUFU scan group as well. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? I think you sent me some photographs

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<v Speaker 2>of that early scan of the of the Cufu Pyramid

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<v Speaker 2>and it was phenomenal. There was new rooms that were discovered,

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<v Speaker 2>there were new channels that radical What was the response

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<v Speaker 2>of the community to that? I thought it was pretty good,

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<v Speaker 2>but some people felt that you were making stuff up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I had to say that.

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<v Speaker 5>I joined the group of research the first September twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty two because I was studying the northern shaft of

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<v Speaker 5>the Queen's chamber inside the Kuful Pyramids, because I together

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<v Speaker 5>read Manusep Zadek and Jean Paulbolau, because we noted some

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<v Speaker 5>interesting details that could suggest possible existence of unknown chambers inside.

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<v Speaker 3>The Great Pyramid.

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<v Speaker 5>And in that period I noted the stands of the

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<v Speaker 5>made by Philippo and Corrado that were working on the

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<v Speaker 5>Kufu Pyramid, and I noted also three D models that

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<v Speaker 5>they showed during a conference, and looking at the three

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<v Speaker 5>D I noted that there was a possible connection between

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<v Speaker 5>an environment connected to the northern shaft of the Queen's

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<v Speaker 5>chambers and the environment detected by Coroado and Filippo Biondi.

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<v Speaker 5>That is why I enter in contact with them and

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<v Speaker 5>we discuss very We had a very interesting discussion about

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<v Speaker 5>their work and partially about my job that I was made.

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<v Speaker 5>I made also on the Confre pyramid because as you know,

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<v Speaker 5>according to a multidiscipliney model of analysis based on mathematics

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<v Speaker 5>and geometry, I discovered a connection between the Confree pyramid

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<v Speaker 5>and the number under thirty seven and it is a

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<v Speaker 5>basic number in physics because it's from tech number originated

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<v Speaker 5>the main three laws of physics. It means that Thatch

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<v Speaker 5>code if is connected to the Kafree pyramid. It means

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<v Speaker 5>that to build the pyramids already manage this code, this number.

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<v Speaker 5>That is why I believe that was very important to

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<v Speaker 5>approach the study of the entire Giza Platol, so not

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<v Speaker 5>only the pyramids and the Sphinx, but also the birds,

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<v Speaker 5>the two temples beneath the pyramids, and so because I

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<v Speaker 5>believe there is a global project, so all the monuments

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<v Speaker 5>are connected among them, and the scans through the the

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<v Speaker 5>r is showing that all the underground of Giza is connected.

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<v Speaker 5>So we decide to move together in this new kind

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<v Speaker 5>of study India, for to understand what is the purpose

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<v Speaker 5>of the Giza Plato. So with this idea to move

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<v Speaker 5>with the co for research project. That leads us to

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<v Speaker 5>the conference of last March when we revealed the first

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<v Speaker 5>image of the underground of Pisa.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fantastic. Now, one of the issues regarding this star

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<v Speaker 2>scan is using other methods to validate what has been discovered.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, how do you follow up on just

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<v Speaker 2>a scan? And I think that one of the positive

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<v Speaker 2>outcomes was the scan of the Osiris shaft and you

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<v Speaker 2>are able to scan this and also validate the entire

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<v Speaker 2>shaft itself from top to bottom, which is a validation,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. Pardon me, I can't talk. Would you say

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<v Speaker 2>that's a validation of your work?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, the validation is very important because when we are

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<v Speaker 4>measuring something that we know anything about it, we need

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<v Speaker 4>with using the technique, the same technique as to be

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<v Speaker 4>validated in order to have a comparation order of market,

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<v Speaker 4>so we can say we are what we are watching.

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<v Speaker 4>So what we are measuring is like calibrating our measurement equipment.

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<v Speaker 4>So we studied everything beginning from the laboradory. This I

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<v Speaker 4>can suggest to watch the conference that we that we

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<v Speaker 4>made in Malta. Because there is has been explained explained

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<v Speaker 4>the very in the in the DALs. So we started

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<v Speaker 4>from the laboratory where we was simulating the equipment that

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<v Speaker 4>we use it on the satellite. So in poratory we

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<v Speaker 4>have a tune the technique using optical images. Once we

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<v Speaker 4>were able to scan let's say small inside a small

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<v Speaker 4>test environment located in laboratory, we moved approaching the technique

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<v Speaker 4>using the first satellite images and we scanned inside the

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<v Speaker 4>environment where we knew exactly what we had to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>So we scanned inside the mountains where we knew exactly

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<v Speaker 4>what we had to know, specific tunnels, specific large infrastructure

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<v Speaker 4>are what we were watching. For example, we scanned inside

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<v Speaker 4>the Grand Sas Todalia, which is a mountain located in

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<v Speaker 4>the central part of Italy, where inside in the core

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<v Speaker 4>of the mountain there is a physics laboratory and the

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<v Speaker 4>physics laboratory where was detected and also evaluated the details

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<v Speaker 4>inside the laboratory. The laboratory is located currently located one

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<v Speaker 4>point four kilometers with respect to the top of the mountain,

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<v Speaker 4>so this is very important. Once we tuned our software

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<v Speaker 4>like that we were using test sites. We began scanning

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<v Speaker 4>the Klungkufu pyramid. So we are referring on the work

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<v Speaker 4>that we did. I did do it Coroado, Malolanga in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty two and we have we have measured t

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<v Speaker 4>things that after six months. Also Zakia was estimated also

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<v Speaker 4>in C too. I am referring to the nine meters

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<v Speaker 4>long accordedor that he announced to that he announced that the.

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<v Speaker 2>Discussion in the corner that's above the entrance. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about right, yeah, actually.

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<v Speaker 5>Called the small void, so called small boyd Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>And we.

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<v Speaker 4>Have the big discorder or previously the discover in C

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<v Speaker 4>to discover discover that Jakia was made and we can

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<v Speaker 4>see and we can say that with Zakia was because

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<v Speaker 4>he have a validated tower metal. So this is very important.

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<v Speaker 4>And then once we had the chance to see that

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<v Speaker 4>the things were working, was working, we're working. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>we moved to scarn all the Jizabrato and so now

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<v Speaker 4>we are able to announce our measurements that I say

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<v Speaker 4>it has to be validated within seedweck excavations, but with

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<v Speaker 4>a certain probability that in my personal opinion is very high.

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<v Speaker 4>We can announce that under each pyramid there are shafts

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<v Speaker 4>spirits with the spira nature that are that are belonging

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<v Speaker 4>underneath for a lot of meters.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors to identify themselves and we will return shortly

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<v Speaker 2>with my guests today Filippo beyond the and Armando May

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<v Speaker 2>discussing the Cafree Pyramid project. Will be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>My guests today are Felipo Biondi and Armando May, two

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<v Speaker 2>of the three team members on the Caffrey Pyramid project

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<v Speaker 2>that took place last year and has had phenomenal results

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<v Speaker 2>from their satellite scan. Yeah, Armando, give us some more

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<v Speaker 2>information about the chefts that have these I guess is

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<v Speaker 2>it a walkway or a stairway that kind of follows

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<v Speaker 2>down into the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, of course, before to l the precise answer, we

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<v Speaker 5>have to explore the underneath of Giza and we hope

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<v Speaker 5>that in the future we can achieve the pyramits to

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<v Speaker 5>explore the underground. Meanwhile, we are examining them tomographies and

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<v Speaker 5>we are trying to understand what lies beneath the pyramids.

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<v Speaker 5>There are shafts that archaracterized by spirits that goes from.

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<v Speaker 3>Down to up.

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<v Speaker 5>And I believe that if we talk about one kilometers

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<v Speaker 5>point too, I believe that we cannot talk about staircase.

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<v Speaker 5>But in my personal opinion, I believe that the spirits

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<v Speaker 5>may be some kind of metals that characterize the shops.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's only my opinion for twelve a certainty we

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<v Speaker 5>must excavate on the gist of Pats of India fort

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<v Speaker 5>to find the correct solution to this mystery. But as

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<v Speaker 5>I said to you, in my opinion, the only answer

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<v Speaker 5>that we can give in this moment, it is just

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<v Speaker 5>only an opinion. And as I said, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 5>it's metal.

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<v Speaker 2>When we look at these scans, it makes us think

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<v Speaker 2>about Christian's book that these are machines rather than tombs.

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<v Speaker 2>A Filippo, what is your feeling either of the Kufu

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<v Speaker 2>or the Caffreine pyramids in terms of what their role was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I thanks Christopher DNA that was very patient to

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<v Speaker 4>also to join us at the YouTube channel of nicol

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<v Speaker 4>Chicolo and we had a very nice transmission streaming talking

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<v Speaker 4>about this task. Of course, Yes, the Jessa Plateau, so

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with the with with the Christopher Dunn. So

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<v Speaker 4>what we can say in my personal obinion is this

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<v Speaker 4>the Jisa plateau has to be considered entirely from north

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<v Speaker 4>south east west underneath up to the stars in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of calibration on calibrated two stars.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 4>It has to be considered entirely. It is can have

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<v Speaker 4>more than one purpose, of course, but it is not

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<v Speaker 4>possible to consider separately the things. So the pyramid is

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<v Speaker 4>things separately, but entirely, and considering what we are discovering

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<v Speaker 4>these days, the pyramids are can be considered the like

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<v Speaker 4>hats that are located on the Giza platoon. Two weeks

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<v Speaker 4>ago we had a very nice conference in Florence where

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<v Speaker 4>we met the pink lefamily and Mario Ping was an

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<v Speaker 4>Egypto egyptologist very famous that he discovered for the first

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<v Speaker 4>time the jug, which is that multiliyer monument that is

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<v Speaker 4>located inside the Kunum Kufu pyramid that is located on

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<v Speaker 4>the top of the king's chamber. So the jug is

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<v Speaker 4>a monument that is made all in granite and it

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<v Speaker 4>is separated from the structure of the pyramid. So it

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<v Speaker 4>is like that all the pyramid is like a caver

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<v Speaker 4>that is on top of the Jiesa plateau in order

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<v Speaker 4>to preserve something or to make a propagate something that

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<v Speaker 4>is very near to vibetions. So all the gesab Plato.

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<v Speaker 4>To know really what the Jesus Plata was, we have

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<v Speaker 4>to go to watch things personally, so we have to excavate. No, excavate,

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<v Speaker 4>not so much. I suggest you again to see the

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<v Speaker 4>I to see the Moulta conference that we did, because

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<v Speaker 4>there there are something about the shafts, very important about

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<v Speaker 4>the shafts that are visible inside from the surface of

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<v Speaker 4>the outside, from the surface of the Giese Plato.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's see.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it is true. I convinced myself that the

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<v Speaker 4>pyramids can be considered only the tip of the iceberger

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<v Speaker 4>of something very huge colors that is located underneath.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Armando, what is your feeling of the potential purpose?

428
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<v Speaker 2>And also, while you're on that subject, does it seem

429
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<v Speaker 2>like this is a dynastic invention or is it pretty

430
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<v Speaker 2>dynastic Some very early people made these big machines.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know that.

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<v Speaker 5>I am in the field of Egyptology since twenty five

433
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<v Speaker 5>years and I started from the academic field because I

434
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<v Speaker 5>studied the most famous Egyptologists such as Petrie Salimasan a gardener,

435
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:51.840
<v Speaker 5>George Art and Williams and so on. Because I was

436
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:56.760
<v Speaker 5>fascinated by the Pyramids party earlier, but a long the time,

437
00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:04.199
<v Speaker 5>I noted many clues suggesting that the Egyptians during the

438
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:09.880
<v Speaker 5>Fourth Dynasty were not able to build such a kind

439
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 5>of monuments because of the architectural engineering features, but also

440
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.199
<v Speaker 5>because of the logistics. You know that, for example, the

441
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:25.079
<v Speaker 5>Great Pyramid, the King's chambers is composed by granite blocks

442
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<v Speaker 5>of the weight of seventy tones that were transported from

443
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<v Speaker 5>the Aswan quarries that are nine hundred kilometers from Gisa.

444
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<v Speaker 5>So it is really very hard to suggest the possible

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<v Speaker 5>construction of those monuments during the Dynastic Age. Moreover, inside

446
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:48.800
<v Speaker 5>the pyramids were not found any kind of hieroglyphics, for

447
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:56.199
<v Speaker 5>example celebrating the pharaohs, or all traces of funery.

448
00:40:57.840 --> 00:40:59.199
<v Speaker 3>Varied and so on.

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<v Speaker 5>So in my PI started to study the alternative theories,

450
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<v Speaker 5>and as I wrote in my English book The Secrets

451
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<v Speaker 5>of the Gods, I described my opinion. It is not

452
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<v Speaker 5>in opinion, but is a very scientific study based on

453
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 5>multidisciplinary patterns of investigation, based on astronomy, mathematics and physics

454
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:32.280
<v Speaker 5>and geometry, showing a world that is really fascinating because

455
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 5>of the connection with the mathematical constant for example, of

456
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:41.840
<v Speaker 5>all monuments involved in the global project with astronomer and

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<v Speaker 5>so I believe that the Ulisa Patuc was built by

458
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<v Speaker 5>a preceding civilization that lived on Earth in the ancient past.

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<v Speaker 5>Now who were I don't know, but the myth for example,

460
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<v Speaker 5>for example, the Book of Death, all the text of

461
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 5>itful for example, just the existence of a preceding civilization

462
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<v Speaker 5>that was destroyed in the ancient past by a cataclysm

463
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<v Speaker 5>that destroyed the preceding civilization. So, in my opinion, the

464
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 5>Giza Parto is witness of this civilization that lived on

465
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<v Speaker 5>the on Earth and then relieved all aground the world

466
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 5>monuments that are very similar. So I believe that it

467
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:33.440
<v Speaker 5>was a global civilization. They lived in South America and Africa,

468
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 5>Europe and Asia, Middle East and so on, So a

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<v Speaker 5>global civilization that lived before us.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Filippo, what is your opinion of the technology behind

471
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<v Speaker 2>the Giza Pyramids. Do you think it's something that was

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<v Speaker 2>part of the dynastics that we know of, or was

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<v Speaker 2>it something that is from a large civilization.

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<v Speaker 4>In your opinion, yes, in that I am not expecting this.

475
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<v Speaker 4>I have to say that I'm not expected. But now

476
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<v Speaker 4>are some years that I am studying the Pyramids from

477
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 4>twenty eighteen since now. But I tell you again that

478
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<v Speaker 4>I am not expected. So this is what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>is related to my personal opinion, and also according to

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<v Speaker 4>the books written by people that are more expected than me,

481
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<v Speaker 4>and also the books of Armando, I could understand that

482
00:43:52.800 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 4>there was another civilization before let's call it a catastrophic event.

483
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<v Speaker 4>I believe in the exact type, there was a time

484
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<v Speaker 4>that where when the Pyramids were built, but not the Pyramids,

485
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 4>the Giza Plateau was built. Because the Pyramids are can

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<v Speaker 4>be considered that the end of this colossal work that

487
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:38.679
<v Speaker 4>were made. The Gizza Plateau was built by an ancient

488
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:50.639
<v Speaker 4>civilization where some kind of technology based on maybe based

489
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 4>on acoustics, and so this civilization was able to do

490
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 4>we are just discovering now. So when I'm saying that

491
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:14.480
<v Speaker 4>civilization debt where leaving they the territory, let's call it

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<v Speaker 4>off km before during a zetep. Let's say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in the images taken of the Kufu Pyramid. There

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<v Speaker 2>are descending shafts that go deep under the surface of

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00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:38.559
<v Speaker 2>the of the of the area. Was is it your

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00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>belief that this was used to suck water out of

497
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 2>the nile or did you go and analyze it a

498
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:51.000
<v Speaker 2>little further after the scans were done to determine what

499
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:56.599
<v Speaker 2>these descending shafts are because in the rendering of the

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00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 2>data they're very very deep and very large.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:05.519
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, the different infrastructures that we have found that

503
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 4>we found are very huge and they go very deep.

504
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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for these questions because a lot of people

505
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:20.440
<v Speaker 4>are asking us information about these shafts. The correlated to

506
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 4>the water table that is located underneath. Also there is

507
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<v Speaker 4>water underneathings.

508
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:27.840
<v Speaker 3>We have.

509
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<v Speaker 4>Estimated that we have found. Also we have correlating our

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00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:45.960
<v Speaker 4>results with water. Again, I suggest to suggest the people

511
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<v Speaker 4>to watch the confidence we had the model, because what's

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<v Speaker 4>very important this confidence. And there we we did. We

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<v Speaker 4>we said a lot of things technically once related to

514
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<v Speaker 4>the water, the shafts, the particular shape given by the

515
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.440
<v Speaker 4>shafts because they have a spiral nature, so there is

516
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.360
<v Speaker 4>it is something spiral like that that goes down. Because

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00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.920
<v Speaker 4>we are watching this nature on the on the on

518
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 4>our measurements, So we are measured measuring something that is

519
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 4>not an addural. We are measuring something that has a

520
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:33.159
<v Speaker 4>spiral behavior. And we are also measuring that these shafts

521
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.960
<v Speaker 4>are very huge and very deep and they go also

522
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<v Speaker 4>below the water.

523
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<v Speaker 3>Day.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I want, I would like to add some information

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<v Speaker 5>on the correlation between the Giza Plateau and the water,

526
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:54.559
<v Speaker 5>partly salt water, because you have to know that. In

527
00:47:55.159 --> 00:48:01.000
<v Speaker 5>nineteen twenty two, German geologist announce the discover of a

528
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:06.519
<v Speaker 5>river connecting the Mediterranean Sea with the desert of Libya

529
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 5>and Egypt. Fine I found artificial channels going towards maybe

530
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 5>also Giza and the Tatara Depression, and the river contained saltwater.

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<v Speaker 5>I was called Ornil, the twin net with the will

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<v Speaker 5>the denial. And also in nineteen twenty nine two geologists

533
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:41.639
<v Speaker 5>of the University of Chicago made an interesting survey in

534
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:48.000
<v Speaker 5>the regional Fayoum discovering channels, artificial channels leading towards north

535
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:54.199
<v Speaker 5>to towards Giza containing southwater. So it's very interesting to

536
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:56.920
<v Speaker 5>underline that there is a place on the Giza plateaul

537
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:01.159
<v Speaker 5>party that some both the birth that is characterized by

538
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.400
<v Speaker 5>conduits and channels that goes underneath, and there is an

539
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:12.519
<v Speaker 5>interesting and impressive water erosion and also traces of sodium.

540
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 5>So it is possible that the tomb of the birds

541
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:23.559
<v Speaker 5>was basing characterized by salt water that was connected to

542
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 5>the network developed in the underground that we are discovering

543
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 5>with the SAAR. So it is very interesting. I will

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<v Speaker 5>explain better this topic at the conference in Chicago the

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<v Speaker 5>Global Pyramid on September. So it is interested could found

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<v Speaker 5>information on the Global Pyramid network dot com and I

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00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:54.960
<v Speaker 5>will explain better this topic because I believe it's very

548
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<v Speaker 5>very important to understand the possible function of all the

549
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:04.960
<v Speaker 5>structures of geese, as the monuments on surface and the

550
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<v Speaker 5>network underneath.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've been down to the subterranean shaft in

553
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<v Speaker 2>the Kufu Pyramid and when you get down there, all

554
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<v Speaker 2>those stones look to be water eroded.

555
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<v Speaker 5>Water was particularly the subterranean chambers, to the floor of

556
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<v Speaker 5>the subterranean chambers, and also the structures the wall present

557
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<v Speaker 5>water erosion. So it means that in the chambers.

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<v Speaker 3>There was water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it has to be. We're going to take a

560
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<v Speaker 2>short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves

561
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<v Speaker 2>and we will return shortly with my guest stars, technician

562
00:50:55.480 --> 00:51:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Filippo Bioni and archaeologist Armando May discussing their work on

563
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<v Speaker 2>the Caffre Pyramid project. We'll return shortly. Today's interview is

564
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<v Speaker 2>highlighting the new technology known as SARS, which is synthetic

565
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 2>aperture radar, which will revolutionize our understanding of archaeological sites

566
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<v Speaker 2>and also a way of looking into our ancient past. Filippo,

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<v Speaker 2>in the images of the Caffree interior of the pyramid,

568
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<v Speaker 2>there seems to be five different relieving chambers. There's only

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<v Speaker 2>one that we know of in the Kufu Pyramid. Was

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00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:25.039
<v Speaker 2>are any egypt trilogists confirming that there's five or there?

571
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<v Speaker 2>Are they still waiting the yes inspect these.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for this question. We are measuring five structures

573
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:41.480
<v Speaker 4>that are similar like the jet. The unique structure that

574
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:46.239
<v Speaker 4>is located and I repeat was discovered for the first

575
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:50.519
<v Speaker 4>time by Mario Binkle, which is the jet.

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<v Speaker 3>So the function of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes according to this to this we can say this.

578
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 4>According to this correlation, we measured acoustic activities where were

579
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:21.480
<v Speaker 4>we are depicting the structures multi multilayer structures very similar

580
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<v Speaker 4>like the one is present in the So we because

581
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<v Speaker 4>of several confirmation of these measurements were done using different satellites. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>we are confident that the treaty model that we have

583
00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:46.760
<v Speaker 4>depicted and showed, so the model concerning the upper part

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00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:50.239
<v Speaker 4>of the Kfre pyramid where we are depicting five structures

585
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:52.800
<v Speaker 4>like the one that are present that is present in

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00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:56.920
<v Speaker 4>the CLUNKOFU. We are confident. The moment, we we don't

587
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:02.920
<v Speaker 4>have confirmation because because could be nice when the results

588
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 4>of this Campyramid project may be cold to confirm our

589
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:12.239
<v Speaker 4>our hypothesis that it is not a hypothesis. Be attention,

590
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:18.760
<v Speaker 4>let's let's focus on this are measurements. The hypothesis that

591
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:23.440
<v Speaker 4>we're done was passing from the measurements to the three

592
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:27.920
<v Speaker 4>D model. Okay, that it is an hypothesis given by

593
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 4>our reconstruction. So from the measurements to the image three

594
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 4>D model. Okay, So when the Campyramid project will give

595
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.800
<v Speaker 4>their results, we can can be.

596
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:48.559
<v Speaker 3>A very.

597
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:57.639
<v Speaker 4>Nice opportunity to match the results the Moon results with

598
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:02.960
<v Speaker 4>our results. Okay. So oh, we are leaving all this planet.

599
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:08.199
<v Speaker 4>Everyone is leaving on this planet, so we have to collaborate.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not.

601
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:16.320
<v Speaker 4>A nice thing to be separated. So when this s

602
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:21.119
<v Speaker 4>Campyramid project is also are available, we maybe match everything

603
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<v Speaker 4>together and give it better.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love what you're saying, Philippo, but the problem

605
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.519
<v Speaker 2>with the Scan Pyramid group is they work with the

606
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Antiquities Department and only a small portion of their data

607
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.000
<v Speaker 2>has been released to the public. And this is the

608
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<v Speaker 2>real problem. And I love the fact that you guys

609
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:43.199
<v Speaker 2>just said, we're doing it, whether you like it or not.

610
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<v Speaker 2>We're scared. We're scanning the pyramid and we're going to

611
00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:54.519
<v Speaker 2>report our data. The Scan Pyramid people mentioned this void

612
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:58.079
<v Speaker 2>above the King's Chamber, but then we're not allowed to

613
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<v Speaker 2>release the data.

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<v Speaker 5>They We are waiting since twenty fifteen the results of

615
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:12.920
<v Speaker 5>the Skin Pyramids. Ten years has passed passed, but until

616
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 5>now we don't have any kind of scientific evidence of

617
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:21.679
<v Speaker 5>their job. They're discovers and not so I hope that

618
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 5>one day the Scan Pyramids will release the content of

619
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:32.679
<v Speaker 5>their work in the effort to comperate their data with ours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but have either one of you spoken to anybody

621
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<v Speaker 2>at the Scan Pyramid organization to determine what that void

622
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:45.039
<v Speaker 2>above the King's chamber is or are they not releasing

623
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:45.519
<v Speaker 2>the data.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, in my personal opinion, it's true. Yes, the scam

625
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Pyramid project to give us the announcement of a big

626
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:58.360
<v Speaker 4>void on the Grand Gale a little, but they don't

627
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 4>know exactly the position orientation. Okay, it is this an

628
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:13.920
<v Speaker 4>important opportunity to join together us because we have our

629
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:18.960
<v Speaker 4>results where we have seen also the big void. But

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<v Speaker 4>not because we are more professional than them, I'm not

631
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<v Speaker 4>saying this, but also we've found something that can be

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<v Speaker 4>related to.

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<v Speaker 2>A big void.

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<v Speaker 4>Just correlating, correlating the results using two independent research group

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<v Speaker 4>will give us the certainly, the certain certainty to have

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<v Speaker 4>located in the space exactly the space the big void,

637
00:57:55.639 --> 00:58:00.360
<v Speaker 4>or just I make you the example of the corridor,

638
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:05.719
<v Speaker 4>the nine meters corridor, the nine meters corridor where was

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<v Speaker 4>estimated by us and published to the results and estimated

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00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:18.960
<v Speaker 4>by the Scampyramian project six months later with respect to us,

641
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:28.039
<v Speaker 4>they published the results after this. After this, zachiawas made

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00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:35.400
<v Speaker 4>the in C to performation. So he made the the

643
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<v Speaker 4>the in C two measurements with a small camera and

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<v Speaker 4>so announced that everyone they discovered the existence of this corridor.

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00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:51.800
<v Speaker 4>But when I made it, I correlated my results with

646
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:57.480
<v Speaker 4>them and so everything matched. So it is only to

647
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<v Speaker 4>stress the fact that research groups has to collaborate, not

648
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<v Speaker 4>be divided by I don't I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but my question to either of you is why

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<v Speaker 2>has all the scanned pyramid data been released to the public.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are they keeping certain parts of that data quiet?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why. I don't know. I don't know what amount.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know me too, I don't know. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 3>end to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's been you know, like you said, it's

657
00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:35.880
<v Speaker 2>been since twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen they did their work, so.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, this is I agree with with the Philippo

659
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<v Speaker 5>because I believe that Sacawas should be smarter on that topic,

660
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:51.519
<v Speaker 5>and because it's it is very important to collaborate between

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00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:55.519
<v Speaker 5>the project or research. So I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>understand why we drove conferences because of the presen the

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<v Speaker 5>Italian team. It was it isn't a great opportunity to

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<v Speaker 5>share knowledge, experiences, data in the interest of humanity, not

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01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:14.119
<v Speaker 5>in the interest of Zakia Wwass or Mandomeea, Flippo Boni

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01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:18.920
<v Speaker 5>or Coradoblaga, but in the interest of humankind that have

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01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:22.599
<v Speaker 5>that must know what happened in the engine past? What

668
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:28.360
<v Speaker 5>are our origins? So it's it's very important the collaborations

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<v Speaker 5>between men, between groups of research and so on. So

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<v Speaker 5>I suggest to Zakiawas and this team to be more

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01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:42.639
<v Speaker 5>smarter on that topic and to start to have a

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01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.519
<v Speaker 5>different point of view in the effort to find the

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01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:50.400
<v Speaker 5>common path of research that could help us to understand

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<v Speaker 5>what happened in the engine.

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<v Speaker 2>Post Armando real quickly on that subject. Why would and

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<v Speaker 2>this is a possibility, and this is being a little

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<v Speaker 2>pid on my part. Why is there a reason why

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<v Speaker 2>the Egyptological community and the Antiquities department in Egypt we

679
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:14.000
<v Speaker 2>want to hold on and repress data. Is it because

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01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:17.800
<v Speaker 2>in our worst thoughts that they don't want us to

681
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:21.039
<v Speaker 2>know about an ancient civilization that may have been highly

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<v Speaker 2>sophisticated prior to our written history.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know in my opinion that it's in my opinion,

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01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:36.280
<v Speaker 5>my personal opinion, if we could show that in the

685
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:42.400
<v Speaker 5>ancient past, before our civilization, there was another human civilization

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01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:48.280
<v Speaker 5>that gave birth to our civilization, it is a reason

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<v Speaker 5>of proud for the Egyptians that are the seats of

688
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:57.440
<v Speaker 5>the recient civilization of the modern civilization and it could

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01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 5>improve also the tourism, for example. It's very important for

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01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 5>the Egyptians authority to understand that because we can show

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<v Speaker 5>that in the ancient past there was a human civilization

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<v Speaker 5>that built the pyramids and all the Gista, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 5>is very important for the Egyptians to all and then

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<v Speaker 5>for the humanity. So I don't understand why they are so.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>They don't want to discuss with us, and the egypt

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<v Speaker 6>Egyptology community is not open to this kind of discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very suspicious, very strange. Filippo Trevor Grassi has

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01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:54.360
<v Speaker 2>been working with William Brown, and William did some ground

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01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:59.119
<v Speaker 2>penetrating radar many years ago and discover an intricate tunnel

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01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:03.679
<v Speaker 2>system in the is a plateau in your skins. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you found or have you followed his suggested area where

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<v Speaker 2>there's tunnels and if so, do they lead to the

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<v Speaker 2>Nile or have you discovered a path?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>I thanks Turbo Grassy because he contributed to give us

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<v Speaker 4>some suggestion in order to scan the dia plata. We

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<v Speaker 4>at the moment we are, we know the moment we

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<v Speaker 4>have scanned already some particular shafts vertical shafts that are

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<v Speaker 4>visible from the Diga Plato and more exactly on the

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01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:52.039
<v Speaker 4>space belonging between the Caffe pyramid and the sphinx. There

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<v Speaker 4>are some shofts that has a squared base that goes underneath.

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<v Speaker 4>But at certain depth there are they are blocked by

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01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:15.719
<v Speaker 4>soil something that can cannot that are blocked, that is

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01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:22.400
<v Speaker 4>blocking the shaft. So we have measured those shafts and

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<v Speaker 4>we have seen that they go deta underneath, and so

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<v Speaker 4>we are considering those like an entrance possibility to entrance

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01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:51.280
<v Speaker 4>at let's say, the the connections or all inside all

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01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:56.920
<v Speaker 4>the tunnels that are located underneath. So that shafts, if

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01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:01.599
<v Speaker 4>we do some cleaning a t it is on those shafts,

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01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 4>maybe we can entrance in the so called the city

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01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:12.079
<v Speaker 4>that is located underneath. Just to tell you, in the

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01:05:12.239 --> 01:05:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Joe Rogan Experience broadcast, when zakiawas was interviewed by Joe

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01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:27.840
<v Speaker 4>that I I thanks Joe to cite us several times

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01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:37.679
<v Speaker 4>in his broadcast, Zaki Professora was told Joe that he

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<v Speaker 4>was open to have a contact with us.

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<v Speaker 3>So we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We are available now and yeah, it's good.

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<v Speaker 4>This is my mail. Yeah, and he can write me

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01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:57.960
<v Speaker 4>when he wants. This is my email.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're looking at that. I'll make sure we put

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01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:06.519
<v Speaker 2>that on our video. I actually know a couple of

734
01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:09.760
<v Speaker 2>his producers, So if you want to go on, Joe Rogan,

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01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I can help you with that. This should be a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>As we conclude, my friends, give us an idea what

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<v Speaker 2>the future holds for your research in the Giza Plateau. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>from a scientific perspective, we want additional validation for what

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01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:33.199
<v Speaker 2>you've discovered. Obviously the permissions have to come from the

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<v Speaker 2>Antiquities Department for archaeological digs, any kind of new science

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01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:43.639
<v Speaker 2>on the plateau itself. I know for a fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Zahilwass was very unhappy that you didn't go through the

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01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Antiquities Department before you released your data. Personally, and I

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01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.880
<v Speaker 2>go to Egypt every year, I thank you all both

745
01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:04.599
<v Speaker 2>for publishing your data, because it's just you have to

746
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:07.320
<v Speaker 2>wait years and years and years and years and years

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01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:11.239
<v Speaker 2>for information to come out of the department. So what

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<v Speaker 2>do you see as the future in the Giza Plateau?

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<v Speaker 2>And the final question would be do you think Sar

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<v Speaker 2>will be like Ldar in the future where science will

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<v Speaker 2>use it on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 4>And I answered, okay, I answered your last question for

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<v Speaker 4>first in my best sound opinion. Yes, because I am

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<v Speaker 4>really convinced on my technique. I am convinced that it

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<v Speaker 4>works very efficiently. What I have to do is to

756
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:54.920
<v Speaker 4>improve there is a rules on I have to work

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01:07:55.159 --> 01:08:00.880
<v Speaker 4>work more on it. I am aware that maybe some

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<v Speaker 4>tomograms are a bit noisy. Yes, okay, so it has

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01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:10.840
<v Speaker 4>to be optimized and that's my job, So why will

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<v Speaker 4>do it. But on the other hand, of course, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>satellite technology is growing up, and it's growing up because

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<v Speaker 4>there are a lot of nice things that are coming

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<v Speaker 4>on the on the stage. And so I believe in

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<v Speaker 4>this in science, and I believe also in the space

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<v Speaker 4>and satellite technology for archaeological purpose. So this is my

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<v Speaker 4>personal opinion and I am very firm.

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<v Speaker 2>On this catage.

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<v Speaker 5>In my opinion, there are two points that are very important.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, the historical and archaeological purpose of the

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01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:03.840
<v Speaker 5>Giza patog because I believe that it's important to explore

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<v Speaker 5>the underground. That of course, also the pyramids, because I

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<v Speaker 5>believe that all the new environments that through the s

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<v Speaker 5>a are we found inside the great the Pyramid of Kufu,

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<v Speaker 5>for example, or into the kaf Pyramid.

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<v Speaker 3>Must be explored to know better what is the.

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<v Speaker 5>The consistence of the those environments. And what is important

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<v Speaker 5>is also to move high in the technological scientific approach

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<v Speaker 5>to the techniques of the protocol beyond the protocol. And

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<v Speaker 5>this is important for example to unknowns that months ago

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<v Speaker 5>we sign an agreement with the Antennato's Foundation of Delaware

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01:09:57.119 --> 01:10:02.199
<v Speaker 5>and the Professor Howard ep Stand for the university in

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01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:06.720
<v Speaker 5>the effort to study better the technology is applying that

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<v Speaker 5>also in civil application and of course in the archaeological project.

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<v Speaker 5>So I believe that the SAAR is the future for

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<v Speaker 5>archaeology because experimental archaeology and the eyes side of my

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01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:31.000
<v Speaker 5>technology not invasive, could there p us to know better

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01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:35.039
<v Speaker 5>the mystery solved from many archaeological sites.

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<v Speaker 3>They were built all around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic Flippo, BEYONDI and Armando may thank you very much

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<v Speaker 2>for being on the program. Continue success. You guys have

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<v Speaker 2>really done an amazing job, and as somebody who travels

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01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:54.680
<v Speaker 2>to Egypt every year, I'm really really happy with the

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01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:57.039
<v Speaker 2>work you're doing and I hope that you can continue.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>For thank you, thank you so much, Cliff, and I

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<v Speaker 5>hope to meet the American community at the two conference.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh okay that we will attend in Denver in August

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<v Speaker 5>at the Ancient Civiliz Ocean Conference and in Chicago to

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<v Speaker 5>the Global Pyramid Conference. And we hope to meet the

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<v Speaker 5>American conference and maybe you oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey, you guys are doing the you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>doing the Guaya conference.

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<v Speaker 5>A fantastic So we can meet in a person at

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<v Speaker 5>Guya Conference, then that's great, We'll come out and see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey much success and thank you both.

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<v Speaker 5>Cheers, thank you, thank you, to you, thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Chow.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept getting the sense that this technology is still

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<v Speaker 2>in its infancy and at some point for it to

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01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:56.800
<v Speaker 2>be used more widely, there's going to have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a training program that is similar to Lighter, where the

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<v Speaker 2>scans are done and then the data is brought back

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's tuned and cleaned up and used for

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<v Speaker 2>identification of archaeological ruins. I have seen. If you, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, if you have not seen I have seen

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01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:22.399
<v Speaker 2>these three D scans. If you have not seen these scans,

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01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:26.720
<v Speaker 2>go to Facebook, go to Earth Ancients and look at

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01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:31.560
<v Speaker 2>the actual graphics. They are color, some of them are

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<v Speaker 2>very detailed, some of them are not. And it's again,

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01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:39.439
<v Speaker 2>it's a technology that's in its infancy and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to wait until it's refined. There's a great

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<v Speaker 2>number of archaeologists that are just very skeptical of this,

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<v Speaker 2>and understandably so, because it's noise, it's vibration converted to graphs,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't see really hard evidence like you see

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<v Speaker 2>in the light are so you have to I think

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<v Speaker 2>it has to be taken to the next level, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>SAR two point zero, where you begin to refine the

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<v Speaker 2>data and you get more of a clear definition of

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<v Speaker 2>the chaff or of a tomb or some artifact, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's more id identifiable. An archaeologists perhaps feel more comfortable saying, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a chaff, or that's a room, or this is

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<v Speaker 2>a corridor or something. And that's the key. Now, if

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<v Speaker 2>you saw the CUFU three dimensional representations taken from the stars,

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<v Speaker 2>that's very easy to look at, but that's twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two data, and I think they've refined the actual stars imagery,

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<v Speaker 2>so once you see the graphics you'll know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. They're rough, and they are vibrations, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think there has to be another phase of this technology

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<v Speaker 2>for more white skill acceptance, which makes it something to consider. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>When light Our first came out, there were similar issues

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<v Speaker 2>with imagery. So again I'm calling it synthetic aperture radar

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<v Speaker 2>two point zero, which would be a refined version of

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<v Speaker 2>what we're looking at. So there you go. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoyed that. I got more details on just how

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<v Speaker 2>the technology works and how it's captured, and we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>hearing more from them because they're going to be doing

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<v Speaker 2>more scanning. In fact, we'll have a similar interview in

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<v Speaker 2>a few weeks with the Hawara group that did the

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<v Speaker 2>Hawara Pyramid in southern Egypt and also captured the underground

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<v Speaker 2>labyrinth with great detail. This imagery was taken in almost

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<v Speaker 2>ten years ago. In fact, we had Carmen Balter on

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<v Speaker 2>the program a couple of times talking about it, so

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get a sense of how far these scans have

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<v Speaker 2>come and the importance of them. So hey, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to mention there. Atlantis Summit is a conference that's coming

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<v Speaker 2>and Sunday. It's a two day program filled with amazing

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<v Speaker 2>speakers and programs were sponsoring it. I'm giving a talk

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<v Speaker 2>on Mayan pyramid technology and what we understand about that.

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<v Speaker 2>For the full program and a huge discount, go to

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<v Speaker 2>and click on Atlantis Summit. And when you're ordering the

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get a whole file with last year's conference and

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<v Speaker 2>all their experts today. This year's program again is July

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<v Speaker 2>twelfth through the thirteen. You can see Robert Schock, doctor

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<v Speaker 2>samu Asmano mich Matt Lacroix, Mohammed Amberheim and many many

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<v Speaker 2>others discussing ancient technology as it relates to Atlantis. We

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<v Speaker 2>think that these technologies are offshoots of the mother culture

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<v Speaker 2>that we consider what Plato called Atlantis. Again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a I can't miss conference July twelfth to the thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>For more information, go to geophilia dot com and see

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<v Speaker 2>all the details. All right, that's it for this program.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to think my guest today, Filippo Bioni, coming

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<v Speaker 2>to us from Rome and Armando May coming to us

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<v Speaker 2>also from Rome, discussing the Cafree Pyramid project. As always

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<v Speaker 2>the team of Gail tor Mark Foster and fas ol

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<v Speaker 2>Our Video Tech. You guys rock all right, take care

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<v Speaker 2>of you well and we will see you next time.