WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:19.719 Four Finger discounted, Hey, everybody, welcome to the show, Dan 2 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:20.280 do here. 3 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:22.399 I'm very excited. You should be excited as well, because 4 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:25.519 I was lucky to sit down with legendary Simpsons show 5 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:28.760 runner mister Matt Salmon. Now, obviously, Matt, He's been on 6 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:30.640 the show a few times in the past, but I 7 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:32.920 feel like this is the most in depth conversation we've 8 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:35.560 had to date. We covered a whole range of topics, 9 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.960 including their recent appearance at San Diego Comic Co, some 10 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:41.840 news on season thirty six. We also covered the chances 11 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:45.479 of a potential Bluey Simpsons crossover, which is pretty interesting. 12 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:49.280 Also some potential storyline ideas for a Simpsons movie sequel. 13 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:51.159 I know people have been asking you about a sequel 14 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:53.439 for years, but it was just really interesting to hear 15 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:57.479 what Matt feels a Simpsons movie sequel should look like. Also, 16 00:00:57.560 --> 00:00:59.520 most importantly, the pretty much the whole reason for this 17 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.000 conversation was that Matt and I we did a real 18 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:05.159 deep dive on that ninety show, which we recently reviewed 19 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:07.719 here at the Fourthing of discaut Network, arguably the most 20 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.519 divisive episode that Matt has ever written for the Simpsons. 21 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:14.120 Some really interesting takes there at times even points out 22 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:16.760 it sounds like he's defending it. He's just giving his 23 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:19.519 thoughts on why he feels the hate that episode has 24 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:22.480 generated and still received to this day is probably unjustified. 25 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:24.480 So you're going to really find that interesting. 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Let's sit 37 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:51.400 back and enjoy my conversation with the legendary Matt Salmon. 38 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:00.319 Mister Matt Salmon, you just got back from SDC, Say, 39 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:01.640 how was it in twenty twenty four? 40 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:05.040 We had a really great panel. We really produced it well. 41 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.640 We had you know, Kevin Smith was the moderator. We 42 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:11.719 had like the special guest star of Seth Green from 43 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.719 hilarious actor and his producing partner Harve Harvetein, who were like, 44 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:20.560 have this amazing stop motion animation company called Stupid Buddies 45 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:23.879 and they're doing this project. We revealed we announced a 46 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:27.000 comic con that you know, we have this stop motion 47 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:34.800 parody of the character Venom named Denim. We are talking pants, 48 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:39.800 Tim talking symbiotic pants, and it's a very funny you 49 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:43.639 know Halloween Trios of Horror thirty five idea, and the 50 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:45.599 pants are so funny. And the fact that they're made 51 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:49.159 of actual, real denim, They're not animation or computers, but 52 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.159 actual cloth, I think is super cool. So we had, 53 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:56.159 you know, we had Kevin Smith. We had all these 54 00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:00.840 you know, surprise videos we released. We he did this 55 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:03.319 cool thing where, you know, a fan online gave us 56 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:07.280 the idea of recording the scream of the crowd at 57 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:10.840 Holly at the comic con, and we used we're gonna 58 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:15.120 use that in the audio of the also of the 59 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:17.199 Treous of War. So it was just a really you 60 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:19.439 know Kevin Smith, who was so great and such a 61 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.240 beautiful man, and he's really a big fan, and it's 62 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:26.159 so funny, and we said so much stuff. It just 63 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:29.360 wasn't like just talk talk talk yeap, yep, yep. It 64 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:34.080 was like just tons of original produced content. So then 65 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:40.759 I finally got into after years of failing, used my 66 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:45.919 amazing success to get me into the big Marvel Comics 67 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.400 Hall h Super presentation, which had always wanted to get 68 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:52.520 into one of those. And this was a doozy. This 69 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.800 was a doozy because they did the big Robert Downey 70 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.560 Junior Doctor Doom Live reveal. 71 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.759 And like, what was the end of you? In that room? 72 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:06.080 It was like a million religions exploding at once. It 73 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:10.479 was so intense and kids people were crying and screaming, 74 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:14.360 and amazingly I had no So they announced only one 75 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:18.240 actor is so good that they could play Doctor Doom 76 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:22.639 if people are familiar with this at all, and familiar 77 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:27.279 I was thinking, oh wow, Daniel Dave lewis cool. But 78 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:29.839 of course I could see why they picked Robert Downey Jr. 79 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:34.560 In some kind of clone variant comic book heep reworking 80 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.720 of Tony Stark's genius into evil. 81 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:38.879 Somehow I kind of felt I've kind of felt a 82 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:41.519 bit of bright the Emergency Glass a little bit as well. 83 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:43.360 I think no, I think it's I think it was 84 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:46.079 like a good move, Like it's better than bringing back 85 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.800 iron Man. You know, Oh, iron Man's not dead. 86 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:50.879 It's creative. I'll give him that. That's all. 87 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.439 Those guys are so smart, and I think I'm sure 88 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:56.120 they're going to figure out a way to make it 89 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:59.839 not feel like emergency glass and make it feel earned. 90 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:02.920 I know they're gonna work hard on that's for sure. 91 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:07.399 Well, that's cool that you've got to be in the room, though. 92 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:09.240 That's that's a moment. That's a moment that's gonna live on. 93 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:11.959 I always wanted that. I always would read about it, 94 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:13.519 and I feel like that was good. Now I don't 95 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.560 need to do it again. Now I can just read 96 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:20.000 about it five minutes later and like, Okay, that's what 97 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:21.680 it was, Michi. 98 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:23.759 Yeah, but it's one of those moments, though, where you're 99 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:26.480 going to be People are gonna be talking about that 100 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.000 moment for a long long time. And to say that, 101 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:30.480 to be able to say that you were there is 102 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:31.040 pretty cook. 103 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.199 But like this, my friend was next to this little 104 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:36.120 kid who was just like sobbing with joy. It was crazy. 105 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:37.920 Yeah, well that's what it was like when the Simpsons 106 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:39.199 movie first premiered. 107 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:42.839 Right, sure, Yeah, yeah, Sally was well, there was maybe 108 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:44.639 maybe relief was the feeling. 109 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.319 Did you know that? The thing is, so I think 110 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:49.680 we got you guys obviously premiered in the States, maybe 111 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:51.639 at a special premiere, but we were one of the 112 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:53.240 first countries to get I'll put up a post on 113 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:55.560 our social media. I've still got my original ticket stubs 114 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:57.759 when I went to see it, and we got on 115 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.319 the twenty sixth at ten am on which is the 116 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.160 first thing. You guys got it on the twenty seventh 117 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:04.560 in your cinemas, and you guys are behind us, so 118 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.600 we essentially got it two days before you. So it's 119 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:09.680 strange that we got before you guys. But I remember 120 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:12.240 at the premiere when the movie finished, and I kid 121 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.759 you not, it got a standing ovation and I've never 122 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:17.079 experienced it before, and I've never experienced it since. 123 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:22.399 That's pretty great. Yeah, well, our Australian fans are always very, 124 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:26.079 very appreciative and cool. I think I remember that reading 125 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:30.560 about it in Australia first and thinking is this like 126 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:32.920 payback for the Australia episode. 127 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:37.120 No. The thing is everyone thinks we don't like that episode. 128 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:40.240 We love that episode. It's almost yeah, we obsessed about 129 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.480 that episode. But SDCC, so you're talking about Denham. So 130 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.319 you brought it Seth Green's Seth Green's company. I was 131 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.160 going to ask you whether it was your animal, so 132 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:51.079 you brought in him. So is it just the genes 133 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:52.279 that are stop motion. 134 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:54.839 With talking pants? Yeah? 135 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.720 How does that work? That must be a lot of effort, right. 136 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:01.959 Well, that you know, there's that You can see what 137 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:04.399 I put online that kind of the little puppet model 138 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:07.959 they're animating. Yeah, you can insert that into this, I'm 139 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:12.720 sure and ah so yeah, and then they can just 140 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:16.120 composite somehow. I don't know how the technology works, but 141 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:20.319 they're you know, they've been fantastics. I mean it's where 142 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:23.600 you feel a little more guilty telling stop motion animators 143 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:26.079 to add something or make changes because you can sort 144 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.079 of think in your head, oh man, that's so much 145 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:33.399 more work of just sitting there click click, move, click move, 146 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:38.040 like endlessly doing that. We're like drawing animators on computers. 147 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:40.160 You can just break their spirits anytime you want, because 148 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:44.920 again they'll figure it out. Computers, where the tactile experience 149 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.720 of cloth and wood is more real. 150 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:50.879 Did you guys get them to do their side first 151 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:52.920 and then animated to it is that how it works. 152 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.319 We do our side first, we send them, then we 153 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.439 send it to them, and then they're they're still making 154 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.600 their part right now. They't they haven't finished. Our part 155 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:02.199 is done. 156 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:03.600 They haven't finished it yet. 157 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:08.000 No wait, well Halloween isn't asn't air till early November anyway. 158 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:10.120 I suppose yes, not the premiere, not Botts birthday. I 159 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:11.519 want to get the boss birthday as well, because the 160 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:13.319 man of guest stars you announced for that one. So 161 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:15.040 what have we got We've got? Is it John Cena, 162 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:17.879 you got, Dane Devita Attorney's Unkie Herb you got John 163 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:18.600 McHale was. 164 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:20.920 Another one I forgot about that. 165 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.560 Conan O'Brien is a huge get. We're going to talk 166 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:25.560 about Coon O'Brian in a minute, I said. Someone I'm 167 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:28.199 missing though, something not Tom Hanks. Of course, that's a 168 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.120 lot of guest stars for one episode. You didn't want 169 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:31.480 to space them out a bit over the course of 170 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:31.920 the season. 171 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:34.080 I think when I don't want to reveal the premise 172 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:35.519 of the show, but I think when you see it, 173 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.759 you'll understand. You'll understand why it is this, why it 174 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:45.279 is so jam packed with big personalities from the history 175 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:47.360 of the show. Yeah, as Tom Hanks was in the 176 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.200 Simpsons movie if you will, he was yeah, and uh, 177 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:52.559 but you know it's funny. I will say this, Brendon 178 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:57.200 as you as you know during part of the writer's strike, 179 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:00.279 I was in Australia, New Zealand, as you know all 180 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:03.360 too well, and the idea of this episode came out 181 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.039 of cover. I have a conversation with a with a journalist, 182 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.240 either a New Zealand or an Australian journalist who gave 183 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.120 me the sort of accidentally gave me the idea for 184 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:14.360 this episode that I don't want to. 185 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:18.799 Spoil but and you don't want to credit I could. 186 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:21.559 He will know who it was when it happens, and 187 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.480 we will be able to recreate that and I can 188 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:25.120 give him credit. 189 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:27.039 I'm still waiting for that blue couch gag that I 190 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:28.000 gave you the idea. 191 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:32.279 For that idea. We're definitely so Bluey did their own 192 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:36.159 version of the Simpsons intro on their own Yeah, and 193 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.240 we want we want to do the blue couch gag. 194 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.159 Big fancy couch gags are hardcase. Our shows are sold. 195 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:46.159 We only have twenty minutes and forty seconds per episode. 196 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.000 So it's like, if you're going to do a if 197 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:52.000 Bluey Creators in Brisbane. If you're listening to this, I 198 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:59.519 believe Brisbane h we ass as the most successful show 199 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:04.080 on Disney Plus and we're the second most successful. We 200 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:06.000 would love to do a collab as they call it, 201 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.360 but we just haven't had the time or energy to 202 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:13.120 find the great placement for it. Maybe, but there's definitely 203 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:14.919 ways to do it. There's definitely ways to do it. 204 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:19.039 How about Louie Simpson's short for Disney Plus? 205 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:25.360 That would be cynical. I would like, I don't know, 206 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:26.200 I mean maybe. 207 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.720 Competing to say who can be number one? 208 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:32.320 I mean it's weird. Though shorts are funny. Their shorts 209 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:34.159 are kind of fun. They their shorts are good because 210 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:38.799 they introduce younger viewers to the show. Yeah, so like 211 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.600 I kind of see them as they're like candy cigarettes 212 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:44.120 you give to the kids on the playground and then 213 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:46.240 to get them hooked on the real deal. Look at 214 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:50.200 the nigga that is the actual show. But there's definitely candy. 215 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.240 They're not sweet sweet nikkas. 216 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:54.679 I was talking about this with Marchael Price the other 217 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:57.519 day about how do you guys take mentality of when 218 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.080 you write the show now that you're writing for kids 219 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.759 today or you're writing for people who have always enjoyed 220 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:04.639 the show. It's a bit of a combination. You have 221 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:05.600 to sort of blow the lines. 222 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:10.240 Well, it's definitely in our heads that we're so popular 223 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:13.600 with kids, and that being on Disney Plus has become 224 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:15.919 almost like a write of passage for so many I'll say, 225 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:19.360 like eight to twelve year olds to like get super 226 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:21.759 into the show for like a couple of years and 227 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:24.039 then move on to the next craziest thing, right, but 228 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.080 let that be part of their satirical animation education. Right. 229 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.960 So that's so, you know, we're so proud of that 230 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:36.399 role in young people's lives to do that. It's but 231 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:39.000 I wouldn't say we're writing for kids. I just feel 232 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:42.720 like we're writing for our for ourselves, you know, like 233 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:47.120 as writers and comedy writers and citizens of the goofy 234 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:51.480 world that like we just want to make ourselves laugh 235 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:55.039 and know that we're telling good stories and have Jim 236 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:59.720 Brooks think the stories are emotional and transformative and you know, gripping, and. 237 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.399 He's still asking where's the emotion? Is the still least thing? 238 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:06.120 Sure And We're always thinking emotion for Jim for sure, 239 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:08.759 which is what all writers should also be thinking and everything. 240 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:12.399 Unless you're writing something you know, just deliberately nihilistic, which 241 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:15.000 is fine, but if it's sort of in any way 242 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:19.360 a popular thing you're creating, it has to be emotion first, 243 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:24.000 and from emotion comes comedy. From emotion comes everything else. 244 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:27.279 Well, we touched on earlier Bat's birthday, so all the 245 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.399 guest stars Conan O'Brien. Whose idea was it to bring 246 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.559 him back? Obviously, like Michael said that, you guys contacted him. 247 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.159 What was it like having cod because you went, you went, 248 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:37.679 you went work on the showing kindon was there? Were 249 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:39.279 you originally you went there for the first run? 250 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.639 No, but I met him over these Yeah, the idea 251 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:47.120 to have him in it, I don't remember who. 252 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:49.960 Thought of that, Okay, But what was it like having 253 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:50.879 him back in there? Though? 254 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:55.360 He was super funny, he was very on, he was 255 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:59.159 very like complimentary. I think he showed the script to 256 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:00.879 one of his kids for to make sure it was 257 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:02.279 like funny and which I thought was. 258 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:05.639 Fun Yeah, it seems the treasure he's time on the show. 259 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:09.320 Well, people know about it, you know, I mean the 260 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.840 fans certainly have, like there's a I'm gonna use the 261 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:19.600 word hagiography, look it up, everybody. For Conan's time here, 262 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:22.000 he was He's probably only here for eighteen months or 263 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:25.679 you know, twenty six months or something. Not to I'd 264 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:28.320 to say he wasn't amazing, and his shows aren't. Maybe 265 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:30.480 the most beloved in the history of the show, or 266 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.879 the era when he was here is possibly deservedly the 267 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:37.080 most beloved, but in the geo history of the show, 268 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.519 it was almost a blink of the eye, right, Yeah, 269 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:44.720 like where Grandpa me has been there for like Paleozoic, 270 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:48.799 the Mesozoic, all the later weird eras people don't like 271 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:49.559 how many. 272 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:51.519 Years have been there now, i'd be clus to thirty now, right, 273 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:52.399 twenty five ish? 274 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:57.840 Oh if you started, yeah, twenty something, because I started 275 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:01.480 in January ninety seven, so now twenty seven. 276 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:03.960 Yeah, well wait, you get me telling about your thirtieth 277 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:07.480 anniversary soon. You're special, Yeah, wrap it up soon. 278 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:10.440 The show people just. 279 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.720 I honestly, I think we discussed this when you were 280 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:16.320 Dan here, when we went after dinner. I just can't 281 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:18.720 see The Simpsons ever ending, even if it's not in 282 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.440 its current form. It'll it'll evolve into something. It'll never end, 283 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:22.320 never end. 284 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.200 Our dinner, it's with our dinners, right. 285 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:28.240 Yeah, that was a great time, wasn't it. 286 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.039 Three places we did a click every week. Thank you Phil, 287 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:37.720 all Me Brendan and Phil Rosenthal from Everybody Loves Phil. 288 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:43.320 Fate, Phil Loves Raymond and somebody Faithfield. Yes, but everybody 289 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:44.480 does love Phil, that's the thing. 290 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:49.159 Yeah, they certainly walking around with Phil in Australia and 291 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:55.399 New Zealand, people love him Like I'm like, I knew 292 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:57.320 he was popular, but I didn't know people would cry 293 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:00.440 when they saw him on the streets. Yeah, well they 294 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:05.159 were like, oh here comes the accent. Sorry people. Oh Phil. 295 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:09.679 You know, my partner had spinal fusion and we watched 296 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.799 your episodes and they got him through the healing from 297 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:16.639 the spinal fusion. My partner. You guys love partners over there, 298 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.120 which is a very old thing. Yeah, it's good. Well, 299 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:22.240 who knows what the deal is just partner your partners. 300 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:24.279 But this sort of their way of saying, you know, 301 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:26.000 you might not be married, might not. 302 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:30.480 Be this friend, you know, hanging together just seating or 303 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:31.240 there were partners. 304 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:34.039 Yeah, I have that one memory of in one restaurant 305 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:35.960 and this chef came out the back and started crying, 306 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.919 and I thought, wow, wait, this guy is serious. 307 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.519 Figure because he's so positive and he's about exploring and 308 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:47.039 being open and you know, celebrating and getting to know 309 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:50.360 people and not you know, dividing and being gross and 310 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:54.120 you know, people everyone. He's not a snob either. He's 311 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.879 like some food snob. He's like a regular guy who 312 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.840 likes hot dogs at snap. You know. He's not like 313 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:03.080 he likes, you know, a really good pastrami sandwich. He's 314 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:07.799 not a you know, molecular astronomy food east. He doesn't 315 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.200 have foody snob energy, you know, even though he loves 316 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:13.039 food and I mean travel is definitely traveling with him 317 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:15.039 with one of the great things. I mean what happened 318 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.720 was during the writer's strike, I Phil had a speaking 319 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:21.080 tour in Australia and New Zealand and I was like 320 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:26.600 his one man Elvis entourage, very privileged role. And usually 321 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.519 when I travel with my family, I'm the one looking 322 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.080 at my phone like, Okay, we can't waste a meal. 323 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:33.519 We have to eat at the best places. We have 324 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.240 to eat the most interesting places and most beloved places 325 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:39.080 of the you know the most essential places, Like what 326 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:42.200 we can't we just go to some random, you know, 327 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.759 boring tourist restaurant. We've We're never coming back here. We 328 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:47.720 can't waste it. I'm not fun to travel with so 329 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:52.000 but on this trip, Phil is that guy. He's the 330 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:55.759 one more worried than me about like we have to 331 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:59.519 find the best, most cool places. So I just sit 332 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:03.399 back and enjoy the ride. It was possibly no offense 333 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:08.039 to my family. Best vacation in my life. Family. 334 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:09.160 I'm sure they understand. 335 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:10.920 I'm surely you're great. 336 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.000 Families are good at times, but you know, sometimes sometimes 337 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.519 with Phil resent family, Phil resental. 338 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:20.680 Emotionally heightened dynamic. It in many different ways that as 339 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:25.079 you know, and with Phil Rosenthal was just like where's 340 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:28.880 the best meat part? Like that was the only dynamic. 341 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:32.279 The thing is, you didn't tell me it was Phil. 342 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:34.359 I didn't clue in because you just sent me a 343 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:36.039 text he said, do you mind if my friend Phil 344 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:37.559 comes as well? But then I was like, yeah, sure, 345 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:39.480 I didn't care. I want to bring whatever friend you want. 346 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:41.160 I did a surprise on you. 347 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:42.839 You did and I got there and I walked into 348 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:45.039 the hotel and I see you standing there, I was like, 349 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.400 oh shit, it's that Phil's. 350 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.799 I'm so blase with my famous friends. 351 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:56.480 I honestly, and for about five minutes, I'm just thinking, 352 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:57.920 holy shit, holy shit, holy shit. 353 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.559 But he's such a great guy. He we just hung 354 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:05.359 out with everybody. You know, done that trip. He's turned them. 355 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:06.319 It's so hot here. 356 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:08.599 Well you are, Yeah, I'm there. 357 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:13.640 That's better. But that was that was one of the 358 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:15.039 most fun times in my life. 359 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:17.359 That well, I remember just being last thing over when 360 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.640 on my way home, I misses my wife and I said, 361 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:21.640 he's one of those people where you just you're glad 362 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:24.960 sometimes the good guys win. You know, Phil, lovely guy, 363 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:28.119 rich is anything. He's just successful and you just you're 364 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:28.839 glad that he is. 365 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:31.480 Yeah, we just you know, so we this we did 366 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:33.960 like a pub crawl, right, or a bar food crawl. 367 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:36.720 We went to three different bars and ordered like five 368 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:39.119 things at each one of these their favorite little snackies. 369 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:41.960 I mean, it was we ate so much. We covered 370 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:45.960 that was this is Melbourne. Yeah, and uh we we 371 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:49.319 covered a lot of food territory in one night. 372 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:52.240 We did. We did, indeed, Yeah, great time. The first 373 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:53.240 time I ever ate Sea Urchin. 374 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:55.400 Right. But now you're addicted. 375 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:57.559 Yes, now, it's great if I could afford it. 376 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:01.920 Yeah, it's a crippling financial problem for your fad my 377 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.880 podcast money on tongues of urchin. 378 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:10.319 Yeah, delicious. But the bot's birthday. So you get all 379 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:12.640 the guestars there, I'm assuming throughout the season you got 380 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:14.720 plenty of the guestars that we haven't announced yet. 381 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:22.079 Yeah. Who are they? Well, Susie Esmond from Curb Your Enthusiasm. Yeah, 382 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:25.079 who's plays Susie Green on the show and is always 383 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:26.799 screaming at Larry. 384 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:29.119 That's she's a she's in a show you need to 385 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:29.720 get Larry on. 386 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:35.920 Well, you have an idea, you have an idea. They 387 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:37.400 know we have an idea. 388 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:40.000 Oh okay, then that's all we need, an idea. 389 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:42.079 Yeah, I won't be surprised if he said no, but 390 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.720 we do haven't a good idea. Andy Serkis came back. 391 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:47.680 Yes, that's right. He's got that trilogy episode. 392 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:50.319 Yeah, another the Brave Bradbury Trilogy and he plays a 393 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:53.440 couple of parts in that MM And you know now 394 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:58.000 he's directing the new Gollumn movie, which I also hope 395 00:19:58.039 --> 00:20:01.400 they know what they're doing with that because I'll definitely 396 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:04.920 watch it, see what they do. It's wife and kids 397 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:07.039 maybe I don't know, get a family that we never 398 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:08.720 knew about and they died. 399 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:13.319 Or that annoying middle class family. 400 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:16.079 He was married to, like a nice hobbit lady and 401 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:17.759