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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode, I talked to two individuals, one about

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<v Speaker 1>their encounter in remote Montana and the other about their

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<v Speaker 1>remote encounter around Kosbay, Oregon. All right, Bigfest Society, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got the privilege of talking to Kathy tonight. Kathy is

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<v Speaker 1>a listener and she contacted me regarding some things that

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<v Speaker 1>have happened to her over the years. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and give it right over to Kathy, but

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for sharing tonight. Kathy.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome Jeremiah, I appreciate you having a platform

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<v Speaker 2>that allows somebody like me who's never talked about this

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<v Speaker 2>to actually have the opportunity to say something and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of validate what I went through, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it absolutely. I feel it's very very important

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to give people a platform where they

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<v Speaker 1>feel validated, safe to speak about things without feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to get ridiculed. But so, Kathy, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for green to come on. I'll go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and let you take it from here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I guess the first thing to say is

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<v Speaker 2>I was born and raised in Montana. Forty three years

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<v Speaker 2>of my life, I spent from east to west, not

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<v Speaker 2>to south, literally for hundred miles as the crow flies

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<v Speaker 2>east to west and three hundred north to south. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been all across Montana, living in different places, working in

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<v Speaker 2>different places, and kind of early in my life, I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up in a little tiny town called Pony And

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<v Speaker 2>that's at the base of Holotop Mountain in the Tobacco

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<v Speaker 2>Root Mountains. Okay, this is in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty some people was the actual amount of people that

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<v Speaker 2>lived in that town. So I was there in Abount

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight or ninety nine, okay, And I traveled the

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<v Speaker 2>same road back and forth to both of my jobs

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<v Speaker 2>there every single day except for one day a week basically.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 2>Just one of these drives that I just noticed this huge,

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<v Speaker 2>monstrous bull moose had come down into the koolie right

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<v Speaker 2>by this road because it runs by this creek that

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<v Speaker 2>feeds the whole koolie, so that stays green all year long,

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<v Speaker 2>whether there's no water anywhere else, spots got water and green.

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<v Speaker 2>So he showed up there, and so I just started

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention because the guy kept being there and kept

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<v Speaker 2>being there. And so one night I got home from

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<v Speaker 2>work and the other half was at the house and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, that moose. It's not dark yet, and

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<v Speaker 2>that moose is right out there. Let's go take a look.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll show you because he wanted to see him. So

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<v Speaker 2>we jump in a Pontiac car and go driving down

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<v Speaker 2>the road and it's getting like half dark. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you could see shapes and stuff, but you couldn't really

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<v Speaker 2>see a lot of definition. So we went down there

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<v Speaker 2>and we're looking for him and could not see this moose.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had just passed him like twenty minutes earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was just gone, and so I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe tomorrow I'll see him on the way in. And

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<v Speaker 2>the next day on the way to work, I saw horns,

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<v Speaker 2>is what I saw. Actually, I slowed down and I

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<v Speaker 2>was really looking, and all I saw was like these

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<v Speaker 2>horns pie It kind of popped up from the grass,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went, oh, no, somebody shot that moose. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing I thought is somebody had poached that

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<v Speaker 2>moose and just shot it. And anyway, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>work and I felt awful, but I went back home

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<v Speaker 2>and told the other half again, you know, I know

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<v Speaker 2>what happened in that moose. Somebody probably shot it, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was rather upset about that. But so we get

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<v Speaker 2>in the car again and go down there, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is when this happened. It was the weirdest thing because

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<v Speaker 2>there was a road a little just an access road

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<v Speaker 2>right off of the one that we were on. So

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<v Speaker 2>we pulled in there, had the lights on the car on,

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<v Speaker 2>and he kind of swung it down into that coolie

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<v Speaker 2>so that the lights would go down to where I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to show him where it was at. And

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<v Speaker 2>we saw it. We saw the horns again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sticking up out of the grass, and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure somebody probably shot that moose. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>were just kind of sitting there and on the I

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<v Speaker 2>had the wind, we had all the windows down because

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<v Speaker 2>it was the middle of summer, and we're just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there and I started hearing something on the right handside

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<v Speaker 2>of me coming up that koolie in that grass, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, there's something down here. So we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to walk up on a moot. I'm not on

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<v Speaker 2>a bear, you know. I did not want to walk

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<v Speaker 2>up on a bear or something that was down there

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<v Speaker 2>eating that moose. So he backed the car back out

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<v Speaker 2>into the highway and I looked over out the window

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<v Speaker 2>and there was this brown thing coming up the side

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<v Speaker 2>of the hill and I went, oh, it's a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm because I saw it it would look short

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<v Speaker 2>because it was this brown bear. And I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a dog. And he's like, oh okay, and I said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a dog, it's a cow. Because it kept

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<v Speaker 2>coming up the hill and it was getting bigger and

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<v Speaker 2>I could see this brown and a second later, this

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<v Speaker 2>horrible stench just destroyed our car. It was the most

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<v Speaker 2>disgusting smell I've ever smelled. And I said it is

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<v Speaker 2>a bear because I knew that a grizzly would do that,

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<v Speaker 2>roll in the garbage that they're eating, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>said it is a bear and he took off. This

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<v Speaker 2>thing was not a bear because it was running beside

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<v Speaker 2>our car. I could have reached out and touched it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm looking at legs. Now, that was the craziest thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm looking at these brownish gray legs and brown hair,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was beside us, and I could see pads

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<v Speaker 2>of feet. I could see this like brownish tant It

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<v Speaker 2>looked like leather, brown feet, bottoms. I couldn't see these

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<v Speaker 2>flashes as it was running, and I told him go faster.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just basically panicked at that point because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>seeing just legs beside me, and I'm just I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>focusing on anything else except for this thing could grab

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<v Speaker 2>me right now. We're right next to each other, and

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<v Speaker 2>so he just took off as fast as that car

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<v Speaker 2>would go, and weasically on the drive homework and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of too much shock, and I was shaken like a leaf.

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<v Speaker 2>I was literally Jello inside and I just looked at

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<v Speaker 2>him and I said, did you see that? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I wasn't sure if he had seen what I

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<v Speaker 2>had seen. And he said, I don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. And I said, did you see that? What

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<v Speaker 2>did you see what I was looking at? And he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk about it. And Jeremiah, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought about this for a long time. I really did,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, why will he not talk to me

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<v Speaker 2>about this? But a long time getting to really know somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a very he was a bully. Honestly, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to talk. I don't want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>about anybody, but I need the backstory here for his reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>And I finally figured it out. He's always belligerent and

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<v Speaker 2>a bully, you know. He was the big man, and

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<v Speaker 2>he always got his way the highway. And that night

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<v Speaker 2>was the only light I've ever seen him show fear.

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<v Speaker 2>I never saw him show fear at any other point

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<v Speaker 2>in time. And this man was burned from head to toe.

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<v Speaker 2>He went through terrible things and he just gritted his

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<v Speaker 2>teeth and buried it. But he was scared to death

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<v Speaker 2>that night, and I think that's why he would never

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<v Speaker 2>talk to me because that was the only time he

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<v Speaker 2>ever showed me absolute fear of something. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the big man in the woods. And so that

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<v Speaker 2>was the first time something strange happened. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>over in the Tobaccoy Mountains and that was it was

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<v Speaker 2>like three four years later, we moved to another town

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<v Speaker 2>north of Paradise Valley and hunted in the Gallatin and

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<v Speaker 2>Custern National Forest. We went to the Absolocus. We were

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<v Speaker 2>all over the place, the custom and sweet grass all

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<v Speaker 2>down through there. And we actually took a hunting trip

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<v Speaker 2>one day south of Livingston on the west side of

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<v Speaker 2>the highway and that's the Custern National Forest area there

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<v Speaker 2>and you can go out there and hunt elk. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we were doing. I had a thirty out six,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a two seventy, and we just went out

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<v Speaker 2>there and we're walking. Parked the vehicle and we're walking.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the middle of the day. We're walking out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was about fifty yards behind my ex husband,

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<v Speaker 2>my husband at the time. I kept a little distance

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<v Speaker 2>because if he saw something, he would basically just freeze

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<v Speaker 2>and then I would freeze, you know, and that's how

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted it. And so I was about fifty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>behind him, just trailing him, and I kept hearing something

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<v Speaker 2>behind me, and I kept saying, there's somebody or something

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<v Speaker 2>out here behind me, because every time you stop and

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<v Speaker 2>I stop, I hear something. Then it stops and then

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<v Speaker 2>we go. And I said, this is really unerving. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be the far away and he got

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<v Speaker 2>annoyed with me, but he said, okay, So we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of gret together down into these bottoms. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got the mountains up at the top, but then

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom they're pretty clear, they're grassy areas, easy

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<v Speaker 2>to get through and walk through, and so I kept

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<v Speaker 2>hearing that he and I said, why don't you go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, behind me for a minute, and you might

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<v Speaker 2>hear this. And so we just kept walking and he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I hear something, but I'm not sure what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But it did not sound like an animal. It just

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<v Speaker 2>did not sound like an animal. It was just weird.

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<v Speaker 2>And as we're going along, all of a sudden, the

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<v Speaker 2>brush to the right of us just exploded and this

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<v Speaker 2>huge cow moose came running just out of those freaking

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<v Speaker 2>bushes and right in front of us and just kept

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<v Speaker 2>on going. That thing acted like we did not even exist.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was when I said, Okay, I'm very uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with this situation. I don't care what gun you have.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something happening here because she didn't even look at us,

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<v Speaker 2>So something bigger than us is after her. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my logic. I'm logical and rational. I'm thinking, if

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<v Speaker 2>that thing ain't even looking at us and being worried

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<v Speaker 2>about it, there's something worse coming up the hill. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just get that horrible sick feeling like something very

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<v Speaker 2>bad is about to happen here. But we turned around.

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<v Speaker 2>We turned around because I did actually tell them I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going any further. I'm not going to do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to walk into a bear. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I kept thinking to myself, it's got to be

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<v Speaker 2>a bear. I always blame it all bears first and foremost.

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<v Speaker 2>But that did not sound like a bear. That most

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't seem like, you know, she even cared that

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<v Speaker 2>the one weird thing am I I was gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>you about Pony. Those are the two different places anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I had these weird experiences. But the one thing about

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<v Speaker 2>base of hol Atop, and so our neighbors had a

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<v Speaker 2>the back of their houses, they had huge motion sensor

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<v Speaker 2>flood lights. Okay, on the back of these houses that

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<v Speaker 2>were beside us, the two beside us, and they had

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<v Speaker 2>And so at night, when I was by myself, the

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<v Speaker 2>You know, oh, there's some deer or there's the dog

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<v Speaker 2>screaming through that failed and right into their yard where

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<v Speaker 2>those lights would come on, and then keep on going.

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<v Speaker 2>And then just split second later you'd see a big

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<v Speaker 2>half foot tail flipping above the fence, and you knew

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<v Speaker 2>the house for a while but that was just a Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>in the wintertime, that was almost normal occurrence. Those deer

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<v Speaker 2>to run right down that creek, right to the backyards

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<v Speaker 2>in those big lighted you know, big lit up places,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes you'd see something chase them. Sometimes you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But sometimes those deer would come down there so fast

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<v Speaker 2>and nothing would follow them into the light, and they

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<v Speaker 2>would sit there in that yard and you could see

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<v Speaker 2>them shaking. I mean, you could see these deer quivering,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't run like they did when the mountain

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<v Speaker 2>lions were behind them. They kept going. But occasionally these

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<v Speaker 2>deer would come down there and get into those yards,

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<v Speaker 2>those two yards, and they wouldn't move. They'd just sit

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<v Speaker 2>there shaking, and nothing thing come into the light. And

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<v Speaker 2>those are the questions that I have. Was something out

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<v Speaker 2>there that knew I'm not walking into those lights. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>chase a deer, but I'm not walking into those lights

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<v Speaker 2>because the cats didn't care. You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't care about the light. They were chasing that

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<v Speaker 2>deer down. So just weird stuff like that happened up there.

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<v Speaker 2>The moose, we had another moose, it was a cal moose.

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<v Speaker 2>When she would drop her twins. She had twins three

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<v Speaker 2>years in a row up there, and when she would

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<v Speaker 2>that field with those lights. That's where she would raise

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<v Speaker 2>those two twins, right there in the back by the crik,

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<v Speaker 2>where those huge lights were on all night, because every

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<v Speaker 2>time she moved it turned on. So that's another thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I questioned too. Wasn't that moose understanding that as

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<v Speaker 2>long as they're here, they're safe. You know? That also

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<v Speaker 2>made me wonder that there's something out there that's enormous

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<v Speaker 2>that's three times as tall as a normal Pontiac car

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<v Speaker 2>at least, I mean, because all I saw was legs

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<v Speaker 2>and feet. That's the only thing I saw. And so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's really my experience is in a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of the things I have questions about, like were they

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<v Speaker 2>responding to something out there that I didn't even I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to believe myself at the time, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. But that's that's really what happened, is

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it right by the car. That was the big

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<v Speaker 2>thing for me, as actually I could have reached out

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<v Speaker 2>and touched it at the time, but thank goodness, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't touch me, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That is an incredible account. It's just it's very man.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how I would handle it. Were

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<v Speaker 1>the windows down in the car really, so it was,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness. So you're in this now you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>a Pontiac car, was it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Bonnaville.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Bonaville, so that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a nineteen ninety Bonaville.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, which is lower to the ground, right, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but you had the windows down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, Well, yeah, it's Montana in the middle of summer.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have the windows down. You don't run the ac.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes total sense. So you had mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>you could see the legs, the pads of the feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you notice any other part in addition.

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<v Speaker 4>I I don't know if I heard anything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I'm makes me wonder because I thought it was,

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<v Speaker 2>like like I say, I was. My brain was triggering

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<v Speaker 2>what could this be? And it was just getting bigger,

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<v Speaker 2>and so my brain was going bigger and bigger. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I thought it was like a cow beside us,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I heard like a cow huffing when a

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<v Speaker 2>cow runs, they will huff, you know, they labor, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I thought that's why I thought it was a cow,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was like shorter two three inch brownish hair,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I heard it huffing, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I thought at first, Oh, that's gotta be a cow.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it kept coming up the side of the

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<v Speaker 2>koolie right to our I mean, he was headed right

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<v Speaker 2>to us. That was the problem is that my brain

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<v Speaker 2>was not working fast enough to go, what is what

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<v Speaker 2>am I looking at? Until I was just looking at

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<v Speaker 2>legs and then like I said, I could see the

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<v Speaker 2>feet pads and it was just these enormous, enormous legs.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see any arms hands. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you had them up or what, but I just there's

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<v Speaker 2>not much else. The smell was the worst part. The

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<v Speaker 2>smell made me literally I was gagging. I was gagging.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so bad. And it stayed in that car.

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<v Speaker 2>It lingered with the windows down eighty miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>It was horrid.

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<v Speaker 1>So you saw it come up the banks of the

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<v Speaker 1>koolie to the car. You said that you're you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>really thinking of what was going on at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>But do you remember, like looking at the creature at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, like looking at its face or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>or no, there wasn't any.

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<v Speaker 2>It was coming up sideways. So all I was basically

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<v Speaker 2>seeing was I believe I think I was seeing like

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<v Speaker 2>head shoulders coming up or something as it was coming

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<v Speaker 2>up the side. But it was coming like what do

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<v Speaker 2>you call it, like in a thirty five forty five

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<v Speaker 2>degree angle coming up that we were turning around and

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<v Speaker 2>trying and getting ready to go. So it was coming

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<v Speaker 2>up at an angle almost kind of beside behind me.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I'm looking, I'm seeing this just this brown

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to my right as it's coming up there. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what got me is we kind of crested together.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically it got to the top of there at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time that we turned. We had turned around, so

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<v Speaker 2>he basically turned around and put me right beside this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>When he turned to the left to go back, he

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<v Speaker 2>put me right beside it. And that's when I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>out directly beside me, right at the mirror with this

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<v Speaker 2>thing beside us running. That's that's my biggest when I

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<v Speaker 2>saw it the most is right there at the mirror

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<v Speaker 2>when it was running beside us.

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<v Speaker 1>At any point, did you get a feeling for how tall.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, Like I say, it had to be what

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<v Speaker 2>at least three times the size of that car? And

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<v Speaker 2>when I got out of the car, I'm a short person, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's say four feet three feet three and a

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<v Speaker 2>half four feet it was enormous. Like is that All

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<v Speaker 2>I saw was legs, like like right above the knee down.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally I could see the knee movement. And but that's

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<v Speaker 2>it was right there, is what I was looking out

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<v Speaker 2>out that window like at three and a half feet,

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<v Speaker 2>so eight nine feet probably I would say something like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, Yeah, wow, did you ever go back to look

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<v Speaker 1>at that area after this had happened? Did you go

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<v Speaker 1>back the next day? Or is just you were staying

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<v Speaker 1>away from that area?

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<v Speaker 2>I had to drive past it every single day to

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<v Speaker 2>go to work. I didn't have a choice. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the crazy part is I would literally for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>I would just pray, please just get me past that spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Please just get me past that spot.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what And that's stupid because that thing could be

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere everywhere, Seriously, it could be long gone. But in

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<v Speaker 2>my brain, I was like, just get me past that spot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I care about. I don't want to break

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<v Speaker 2>down there, no, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, definitely. I mean to have to probably relive

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<v Speaker 1>that over and over in your mind daily on the

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<v Speaker 1>way to work. That would be not a fun time

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. That area that you lived in, was it

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<v Speaker 1>a thing where people would ever talk about Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 2>Ever? Oh, they would talk about their cows missing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because there was a couple of really big black angus

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<v Speaker 2>ranches right there in that valley. Pony was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>up in the mountain, and all that entire valley, all

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<v Speaker 2>the way down to basically Ennis is nothing but cattle, cattle,

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<v Speaker 2>land raising lands, things of that nature. And they would

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that cows disappearing when they have them down

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<v Speaker 2>in the valley. They would actually just you know, go

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<v Speaker 2>out one day, feed the cows, next day, feed the cows,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're like, wait a minute, where's that where's

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<v Speaker 2>that cow? Where's four fifteen or where's two ninety one,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? And they were just gone.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they did talk about that a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>they I don't know if any of them had their

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<v Speaker 2>own encounters at any time, but those cattle ranchers are

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<v Speaker 2>closed mouth about their land. They don't talk about much

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<v Speaker 2>of anything down there. You know. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about wolves, they don't want to talk about bears,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to talk about anything because if somebody

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<v Speaker 2>goes after their cattle, the three s's, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>that is, right, that's that's kind of how that works,

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<v Speaker 2>three three s's, I don't sorry, shoot shovel and shut up, okay, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how that works. So that's why I say they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tight lipped around there, because that's just the

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<v Speaker 2>law of land. So I'm sure they would not want

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss anything like that that somebody might want to protect. Seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just how it is with land.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, going off of what you've experienced,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some brief interactions, have you ever thought to yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>had to work through, like what you think these might

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<v Speaker 1>actually be.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that they're they're an animal. Honestly, they're

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<v Speaker 2>just an animal. I don't think that they're demons. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that they're nephilom. I don't think there are

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<v Speaker 2>any of that. I think they are animals. Plain and

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<v Speaker 2>simple logic and reason tells us the simplest answer is

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<v Speaker 2>usually the correct answer. Correct? Is that not right?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure yep, yep, that is that is a logical thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so I really do I think they're just animals. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe they're intelligent. I mean, I know that

418
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<v Speaker 2>animals are intelligent. I absolutely know that they can. They

419
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<v Speaker 2>can figure stuff out that they probably can mimic it

420
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<v Speaker 2>and talk, and they probably have their own communication and

421
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<v Speaker 2>their own words and things of that nature. That's fine.

422
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:09.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, have you seen a murder of pros one

423
00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:12.440
<v Speaker 2>of them learned something? Everybody learns it because they sit

424
00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.000
<v Speaker 2>around and they chatter it, you know, so they just

425
00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.240
<v Speaker 2>start learning this stuff. I don't think they're stupid animals.

426
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<v Speaker 2>I think they're extremely intelligent animals. But I do believe

427
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<v Speaker 2>they're still animals.

428
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<v Speaker 1>Being a person that's lived in Montana for so long,

429
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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to a few people from Montana, and there's

430
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<v Speaker 1>some really interesting things that happen up there. I'm just

431
00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>curious if it's anything you've ever heard of. Have you

432
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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of people finding like grizzly bears that have

433
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<v Speaker 1>had their necks broken in Montana?

434
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<v Speaker 4>Ever?

435
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:47.039
<v Speaker 1>You have?

436
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Paradise Valley, Yes, Paradise Valley. They actually I kind

437
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.400
<v Speaker 2>of know I had it end at the time down

438
00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:58.799
<v Speaker 2>there with somebody that was involved with that stuff. But

439
00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:02.920
<v Speaker 2>they were actually fine. These grizzlies dead, and the Park Service,

440
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:05.799
<v Speaker 2>the rangers, they knew about it because that's kind of

441
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:08.839
<v Speaker 2>where the line came from. Where the information came from,

442
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.759
<v Speaker 2>was through the through that I used to do some

443
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.559
<v Speaker 2>other stuff law enforcement wise for quite a few years

444
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:18.240
<v Speaker 2>there in Montana, and that's where they were that came from,

445
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>but directly from the Park Service. Yeah, they're finding dead

446
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:25.839
<v Speaker 2>grizzlies in Paradise Valley, and they're finding dead campers up

447
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:31.440
<v Speaker 2>in Custer National Forest. They're they're finding like people on

448
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 2>one side of a mountain ridge and their entire packs

449
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:39.839
<v Speaker 2>and shoes and everything else seventeen eighteen miles away on

450
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.559
<v Speaker 2>another side of the mountain. I don't know if anybody's

451
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.640
<v Speaker 2>ever talked to you about those, but that's something that

452
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:49.160
<v Speaker 2>actually happens here, and they don't know why these people

453
00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:51.079
<v Speaker 2>are dead in one spot and all their stuff was

454
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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. If they you know, and they're just dead.

455
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<v Speaker 1>I believe that was called out in That's a Missing

456
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<v Speaker 1>four on one thing with David Plaiti's I think. I remember, yeah,

457
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>he's done that documentary.

458
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.799
<v Speaker 2>Yep, he's done that. Yeah, that's right, and that's not

459
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.319
<v Speaker 2>a lie. That is the absolute truth. Like I said,

460
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.279
<v Speaker 2>I had some inns with these places, and that is

461
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>the truth. That's crazy and I'm the first time I

462
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 2>read and I was like, there's got to be a

463
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:25.119
<v Speaker 2>logical explanation. There's no logical explanation for finding that. You know,

464
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 2>there's no logic. These people knew what they were doing

465
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.559
<v Speaker 2>out there. They were well prepared. It's not like it

466
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<v Speaker 2>was the first time they went on a hike.

467
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<v Speaker 4>You know.

468
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Something happened to these people.

469
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<v Speaker 1>It's I remember looking into that myself, and it just

470
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<v Speaker 1>it does not make sense at all. Going back to

471
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<v Speaker 1>the grizzlies, do you say that so they were found

472
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 1>they were found dead, but you said their next were

473
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:52.160
<v Speaker 1>broken as well.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Not only their necks were broken, but they were there

475
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<v Speaker 2>actually their bodies were mangled. They weren't just somebody broke

476
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>their neck and let them lay there. They were mangled bears.

477
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>And that's what the problem was, because they're like a

478
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:13.480
<v Speaker 2>wolf pack is potentially capable of doing this, you know,

479
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 2>absolutely capable if the pack goes after a bear, it's possible, Okay,

480
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>so we're in the realm of possibility. But who's going

481
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to mangle that body and not eat it? That's the thing.

482
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 2>If the wolves are going to take the time and

483
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>energy to kill a bear, they're going to eat it

484
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>because they've wasted all their energy killing it. You know

485
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

486
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? Can can you just you said the bodies were

487
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.599
<v Speaker 1>found mangled? Can you? And not to get too crazy,

488
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.839
<v Speaker 1>but can you describe like what that exactly means?

489
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 2>That they were just broken like they're not. They were

490
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:58.400
<v Speaker 2>legs broken, they were mangled like twisted backs and all kinds,

491
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 2>just mangled like they had been manhandled to the point

492
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>of death, just manhandled to the point of they're just

493
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>mangled and left there. And that's why I say that

494
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 2>if they were if they were killed by another natural predator,

495
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>that predator doesn't take all of that time and energy

496
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:20.799
<v Speaker 2>to kill something like that unless they're going to eat it.

497
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:26.319
<v Speaker 2>That's just natural selection. You know, the energy they spend,

498
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>they have to get a reserve. Again, they've got to

499
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 2>eat it.

500
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>And you're saying that it was just left there.

501
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.640
<v Speaker 2>They're just left there, Yes, and they have the pictures

502
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 2>of them. That's the thing. And I don't know why

503
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 2>people are so tight lipped about this business. You know,

504
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:50.079
<v Speaker 2>if there's if that's happening down in the bar Tooth

505
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>and Absorca wilderness, that's a playground for millions of people

506
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.119
<v Speaker 2>every year. You know what I mean?

507
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>And your thoughts? What could break the neck of a

508
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 1>grizzly bear.

509
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 2>On the very edge of the realm of possibilities? Okay,

510
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>this is all I'm going to say. On the very

511
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>edge of the realm of possibilities. I have seen bull

512
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 2>elk and bull moose that could probably do that if

513
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.400
<v Speaker 2>they absolutely had to in some weird way with their horns.

514
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 2>That's the only thing that would be big enough and

515
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>strong enough to even attempt to do something like that.

516
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>There is nothing else out there. That's why I said,

517
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>the wolves are not going to do that. Wolves are

518
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>not going to do that. They can't they don't have hands.

519
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 2>There is no other option. And I'm sorry, but that's

520
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:51.799
<v Speaker 2>the truth. There are big, big, big animals out there

521
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.480
<v Speaker 2>that are I think that that's what's happening. I really do.

522
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's what's happening. I think they're being

523
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:02.119
<v Speaker 2>killed by bigfoot end of story. There's no other logical explanation.

524
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 1>So I'll tell you it's something that's come up at

525
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 1>random times over the last few years. Big for Society

526
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>will be right back after these messages. There's been interviews

527
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:37.279
<v Speaker 1>where talked to a gentleman in Oregon where he found

528
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>a black bear that was pretty much mangled by a bigfoot.

529
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>There was a hunter that was mangled by bigfoot in

530
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>northern Alabama in a similar way. It just it's wild

531
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>when you start to connect pieces from different parts of

532
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the country like that. So I was talking to a

533
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>gentleman a while ago named Ken Metzger. He's a bigfoot

534
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>researcher in Montana. You ever heard anything where there could

535
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>be connections between missing for on one cases and bigfoot. Besides,

536
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, we did already talk about the one person

537
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 1>that was found on the side of the mountain, But

538
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 1>do you have any thoughts about that?

539
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Absolutely, Because once I started connecting the dots myself,

540
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>other things that I was listening to and reading and

541
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:31.960
<v Speaker 2>seeing were just like absolutely mind blowing to me, thinking that,

542
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, this possibly could be one of the

543
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 2>biggest shocks to people out there. It really could. It

544
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 2>could be one of the biggest things that ever happens

545
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:46.000
<v Speaker 2>is then finding out that these people they go out here,

546
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>they're not just they're not just disappearing. They're they're not

547
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 2>just you know, walking off the trail for no dang reason.

548
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 2>These people something's happening to them. End of story. And

549
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 2>if that's what it is, then that's what it is.

550
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 2>We need to start. Like I'm saying, I'm based in

551
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:07.319
<v Speaker 2>logic and reality, you know, and that's the most logical

552
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:11.079
<v Speaker 2>explanation for any of it is. Actually, but actually seeing

553
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>something like that and putting all these little pieces together

554
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't understand at the time, it does point

555
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 2>me in only one direction, it really does. These people

556
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.519
<v Speaker 2>are coming in contact with something like that out there,

557
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and they're getting the short end of the stick.

558
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Over the years, have you ever heard of any

559
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>other strange things that have been happening in the Paradise Valley.

560
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Area, Well, there was only one other thing that happened

561
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and was extremely tragic, But this was over in the

562
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>eastern side of the state. It was the middle of winter,

563
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 2>probably two thousand and eight, something like that. Two thousand

564
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>and nine, we had a gentleman that we knew. He

565
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 2>took off to go hunting his four wheeler. Okay, he

566
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:05.319
<v Speaker 2>has four wheeler all packed up because he was headed out.

567
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>He was going to stay out, and he disappeared, and

568
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 2>later on, once the ice kind of broke, they found

569
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 2>him attached to his four wheeler in the river, and

570
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>they were like, what would make somebody who knows this place,

571
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 2>who was born and raised here, who has hunted here

572
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>their whole life, what would make somebody veer off course

573
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 2>and drive over a river they know is not frozen.

574
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 2>He absolutely knew that was not frozen. And it makes

575
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:48.160
<v Speaker 2>me think what would scare someone that bad that they

576
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:53.559
<v Speaker 2>would lose all all thoughts of safety and drive onto

577
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 2>a river they know is not frozen. And his boot

578
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>got stuck on the bottom peg on his four wheeler

579
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 2>and it killed that man. He went down with his

580
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 2>four wheeler. Now, I don't know what else would make

581
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>you that afraid. You know, absolutely, That's something I've always questioned,

582
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Why would a person do that, that is so intelligent,

583
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>so good at being outdoors, Why would he do that?

584
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:33.639
<v Speaker 1>If the missing four on one events. It's not something

585
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 1>that I've looked a lot into, but the things that

586
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:41.079
<v Speaker 1>I have looked into. It's just it does not make sense,

587
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's just a very scary thing that it does happen.

588
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:50.599
<v Speaker 1>Then maybe I'll start to hear more about different things

589
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 1>as well. If you had the ability or you could

590
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>make the decision too, would you choose to have an

591
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 1>interaction or see a bigfoot creature again or is it

592
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>something that you would rather not take part in.

593
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.800
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm kind of a I'm kind of an odd

594
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:22.360
<v Speaker 2>duck Jeremiah. I don't really get Once I think about

595
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:24.840
<v Speaker 2>something and get it in the right place in my head,

596
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 2>once I get it straightened out in my head, I'm

597
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:33.639
<v Speaker 2>pretty logical and really level. Honestly, I did. I was

598
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 2>a nine one one operator for several years, and everybody

599
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 2>told me it was the best job I ever did

600
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 2>and got because when crap is happening, I don't panic. Okay,

601
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not the panicker. I'm the person that'll stand there

602
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.639
<v Speaker 2>and watch it happen and take note of everything that happens.

603
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a panicker. So after I thought about it,

604
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 2>I really did. I started listening to stuff and really

605
00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:00.280
<v Speaker 2>research and stuff more, and I thought, you know, to me,

606
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I think it would be I think it would be crazy,

607
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 2>but I you know, I think I would. I want

608
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.679
<v Speaker 2>to know this, I really do. I want to be

609
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.400
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent sure, And I don't like that question

610
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>mark in my head for so many years that I

611
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>could never talk to anybody about because I always did

612
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>think these people will think I'm nuts. They're gonna put

613
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 2>me up in the looney bin if I say anything

614
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:31.079
<v Speaker 2>about this. But I do, I fully, I really do think.

615
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 2>It scared the crap out of me at the time,

616
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:36.480
<v Speaker 2>but after I thought about it, I would actually not

617
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:41.760
<v Speaker 2>mind seeing one from a distance, down in a coolie

618
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.960
<v Speaker 2>like I say, or across the mountain, you know, down

619
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 2>in the valley while I'm up here on the side.

620
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it would be really interesting to actually see

621
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:55.280
<v Speaker 2>a full figure, the whole thing, and know what it was,

622
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:57.440
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Instead, I have these questions.

623
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it would be very interesting. You know, I haven't

624
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>had the opportunity yet, but it would be very interesting

625
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to be able to actually have a visual for sure.

626
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<v Speaker 1>Since you brought it up, do you have a question,

627
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 1>and you can choose whether to answer it or not,

628
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>of course, but during your time working nine one one,

629
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Speaker 1>did you ever receive any calls of people that had

630
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:25.519
<v Speaker 1>seen a bigfoot.

631
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 2>No, I just received calls of the people on the

632
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>reservation disappearing, because I worked in an area that also

633
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:39.119
<v Speaker 2>covered two reservations and there was there's always a lot

634
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.400
<v Speaker 2>of disappearances there. And sometimes they would find the people's

635
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:47.719
<v Speaker 2>bodies in the in the river. Sometimes they would never

636
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.840
<v Speaker 2>find them at all. Sometimes they would find them on

637
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 2>the side of a road. Those were the weird ones

638
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>because there really didn't seem to be any real explanation

639
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 2>for what happened to these people. They just disappeared and

640
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>sometimes they were found and sometimes they weren't.

641
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 1>And I was about it, Wow, that would be definitely

642
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I think what does take a special type of person

643
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>to be able to take calls for that? And it

644
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:21.159
<v Speaker 1>sounded like you were definitely well equipped to do that.

645
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Well. I appreciate that. That's my entire that's really been

646
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>my my most of my entire life. That's been my

647
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.039
<v Speaker 2>way I earned my living, you know, as things like that,

648
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm I was hesitant to say anything at first,

649
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.440
<v Speaker 2>but then I thought, you know, I'm just gonna I'm

650
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 2>just gonna talk about it, and then I'm gonna put

651
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 2>it to rest, and I'm in Arkansas now and Arkansas's

652
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I did not have any idea about all the sightings here.

653
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.440
<v Speaker 2>So now I'm like, oh, man, did I go from

654
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>the frying pan into the fire or what?

655
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, Kathy, you may have depending on where you are.

656
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 1>What if you're in northwestern Arkansas, you did? I did?

657
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness.

658
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

659
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean I get so many reports and people talking

660
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to me about northwest Arkansas Buffalo River, and then you've

661
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:25.159
<v Speaker 1>got like, because that's close to washita A National Forest

662
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:29.320
<v Speaker 1>southeast Oklahoma. I mean the whole area is just just

663
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 1>wild with bigfoot.

664
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep. I live right in the middle of the

665
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 2>National Forest and by Lake Greeson, so that it's X

666
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 2>marks the spot basically. Jeremiah.

667
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh so in the Washatas Yeah, you're there.

668
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wow the thing? Yeah? Is it? This whole place?

669
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Man?

670
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Holy moly, Yeah, this place I won't go anywhere at

671
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 2>night I'm not familiar with. And I'm seriously because I'm

672
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't want that by myself. I don't ever want

673
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>to have that interaction by myself. I don't, So I'm

674
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.239
<v Speaker 2>pretty picky about where I go here.

675
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, it seems like in that area that subject

676
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>would come up pretty easily. Has that ever come up

677
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:19.519
<v Speaker 1>in conversation with other people down there.

678
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I've got a couple guys that do a bunch of

679
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:26.920
<v Speaker 2>fishing all over the place. They've actually had little stories

680
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 2>that they telled me about somebody bothering them. And I'm

681
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 2>not going to say anything to these people. I work

682
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:34.639
<v Speaker 2>with these people, and the last thing I want them

683
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:36.079
<v Speaker 2>to do is, like I said, I think I'm a

684
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 2>nut job or something. So they have these interesting stories

685
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.519
<v Speaker 2>about their like their boat going what do you call

686
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 2>it more your boat basically right when you go up

687
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:52.119
<v Speaker 2>and land your boat, that they would camp out, do

688
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 2>their fishing camp out and get up in the morning

689
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.360
<v Speaker 2>and somebody had on moored the boat and it's gone,

690
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, and they're like, who could do that? You know,

691
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 2>why would someone do that? And who could do that?

692
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.719
<v Speaker 2>And just little things like that. But they've never said

693
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.280
<v Speaker 2>anything about seeing anything or hearing anything.

694
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:14.639
<v Speaker 1>If you wanted to look more into it, you're in

695
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the right area for sure.

696
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's exactly how I feel. And you know, honestly,

697
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm becoming more and more and more curious over time,

698
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's because of just all of the

699
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:33.800
<v Speaker 2>information that's out there. I just I just actually voraciously,

700
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, go through information over time, and I just

701
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.840
<v Speaker 2>listen to everything I can and read all of this stuff.

702
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.960
<v Speaker 2>But I really do believe, honestly, this is an animal.

703
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, people put so much behind it and everything,

704
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:52.719
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes yeah, weird crap can happen around them. Absolutely,

705
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not disclaiming discounting anybody's stories. I don't know anything

706
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 2>about this. This is just my opinion is that they're

707
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 2>they're animals, you know, and they're out there, and people

708
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 2>should just be aware, you know, that that's a potential

709
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.519
<v Speaker 2>something could happen. You know, just be careful.

710
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I would really hope, you know, in our lifetime hopefully

711
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.760
<v Speaker 1>we get the final answer, you know, whether that's a

712
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>that's some specimen or something's captured. It would be great

713
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.679
<v Speaker 1>if we could get some some final answer. But we

714
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:31.519
<v Speaker 1>will see, right, Yeah.

715
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:34.039
<v Speaker 2>It'll come around. Eventually, it'll come around. That's all there

716
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 2>is to it. That The only thing that needs to

717
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:39.639
<v Speaker 2>happen is there actually needs to be a concerted effort

718
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 2>between all these different groups. Seriously, people need to say, Okay,

719
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:48.800
<v Speaker 2>put all differences aside. We're going to blanket this entire area,

720
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.559
<v Speaker 2>whichever area may be that's the most that has the

721
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:55.159
<v Speaker 2>most sightings or that just blanket the entire area with

722
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 2>so many people and so many trail cams and just

723
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 2>do that, you know, come together. That's the only thing

724
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.199
<v Speaker 2>I see when I listen to all this stuff. Everybody's

725
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 2>doing their own little thing, and that's awesome. But if

726
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:12.519
<v Speaker 2>you really want to make an impact, work together. Make

727
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.039
<v Speaker 2>it happen, because boots on the ground is what is

728
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 2>going to find this. That's what's going to find this.

729
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>No, I agree. I mean, first off, focus on you know,

730
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:26.159
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a certain area in southeast Oklahoma or maybe

731
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Pacific Northwest. But yeah, just make it like almost a

732
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:34.039
<v Speaker 1>search and rescue but you know, kind of different. Get everyone,

733
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 1>but you got to have the manpower behind it. And

734
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:44.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I get Yeah, it always comes back

735
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>to if the government's involved or not. It's what it

736
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>seems to come back to in these chats. But I'm

737
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:52.119
<v Speaker 1>not too sure about that one.

738
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's kind of why I think that way, because

739
00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.320
<v Speaker 2>that's you know, part of the job that I did

740
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 2>was also support for search and rescue, ambulance, fire, you know,

741
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.239
<v Speaker 2>all of that, And that's exactly how I feel. You

742
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 2>take the map out, you grid your map, You put

743
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:14.519
<v Speaker 2>these people here at this grid, these people here at

744
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:18.360
<v Speaker 2>this grid. You know, that's exactly what my mind went to, Jeremiah, honestly,

745
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:22.079
<v Speaker 2>is more blank search and rescue, because how do you

746
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:28.480
<v Speaker 2>find a little girl in the middle of nowhere Custer County, Montana,

747
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:33.840
<v Speaker 2>that's nothing but flat planes and dry scrub brush and

748
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:36.960
<v Speaker 2>all of this stuff. You know, a little girl went

749
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:39.119
<v Speaker 2>missing out there. It took us three and a half

750
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:42.079
<v Speaker 2>days to find her. She was less than a mile

751
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.920
<v Speaker 2>away from home. Oh wow, people getting on four wheelers

752
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and horses and walking that area after three days that

753
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 2>found her. That's how you do it, you know.

754
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah, something to think about, and it'd be an

755
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:03.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting conversation to to start having in the community. I think, Kathy,

756
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 1>it's been a really enlightening conversation. And thank you for

757
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:14.679
<v Speaker 1>finally sharing publicly what you've experienced over the years. Big

758
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 1>for society will be right back after these messages. I

759
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:37.679
<v Speaker 1>wish you the best down in Arkansas. Hopefully, well unless

760
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>you want it to hopefully things are pretty calm down

761
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>there for you.

762
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:47.599
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's what I'm crossing my fingers about to Jeremy.

763
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.320
<v Speaker 2>It's just just don't break me out too bad.

764
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's exactly. Yeah, no doubt for.

765
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Allowing me, honestly, for allowing me to just get all

766
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:01.119
<v Speaker 2>of this stuff off of my chest since say, this

767
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 2>is what happened. Okay, now I can put it to bed.

768
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 2>That's what I needed. Seriously, absolutely, Oh, I appreciate that

769
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:08.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot.

770
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Kathy.

771
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:14.719
<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. You have a wonderful evening. It's been a pleasure.

772
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Take good care of yourself.

773
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:26.719
<v Speaker 5>Okay, unknown, let's go, boy, what.

774
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 3>To accept?

775
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:30.679
<v Speaker 5>Press one to send a voicemail?

776
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 3>Press two?

777
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Hey is this David?

778
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:37.039
<v Speaker 3>It is?

779
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Is this David Blaylock.

780
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:39.960
<v Speaker 3>It is?

781
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Did I say that? Yeah? Ah, okay, very good. Hey,

782
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:49.440
<v Speaker 1>thanks for calling you did You've already filled out the form,

783
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:53.599
<v Speaker 1>right I did. That's right. Let me make sure that

784
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:56.360
<v Speaker 1>people can hear us in the If someone in the

785
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>chat can say, hey, I can hear David, that would

786
00:46:59.960 --> 00:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>be fantastic. I just want to make sure that we're

787
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 1>set up right first, David, no problem, We're gonna wait

788
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it out here. Okay, we can hear perfect. We're ready

789
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.679
<v Speaker 1>to rock, well, David, I know we we were planning

790
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.920
<v Speaker 1>on chatting eventually, but I'm glad you called in. I'm

791
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:28.639
<v Speaker 1>gonna let you go ahead and have the floor and

792
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>share would you would like to, And I might have

793
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:35.639
<v Speaker 1>some questions. And also, guys in the in the comments,

794
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>if you've got questions, go ahead and throw those in

795
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:43.119
<v Speaker 1>the comments, all caps please, and I'll put those in

796
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 1>two potentially, So David, go right ahead, sir, All.

797
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, thank you, Jeremiah. So, my name is David Blayloc

798
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.440
<v Speaker 3>and I grew up in northern California, very near where

799
00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 3>the Patterson Gimmlin film was filmed. And twenty years ago

800
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 3>me and my wife moved here to Goos Bay, Oregon,

801
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:09.159
<v Speaker 3>which is southwest Oregon. And we've hunted elk and deer

802
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:12.760
<v Speaker 3>and bear and everything, camped and done all the hiking

803
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:17.000
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. And for like fifteen years, we

804
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:21.480
<v Speaker 3>never had any experiences or anything that would lead you

805
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 3>to think something was going on until two thy and nineteen.

806
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 3>And in two thy and nineteen, two days before the

807
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:35.960
<v Speaker 3>end of August, elk season started for both seasons for elk,

808
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.920
<v Speaker 3>me and my wife and my sister she followed us

809
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.199
<v Speaker 3>up there. We had our truck with a camper overhead

810
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:46.440
<v Speaker 3>camper on our truck and she my sister, followed us

811
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.239
<v Speaker 3>up in her car and she had her twottle dogs.

812
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, my wife had our little menpen dog. And

813
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:55.199
<v Speaker 3>we drove up and it takes about an hour and

814
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.960
<v Speaker 3>a half to get there. E'repe like fourteen miles up

815
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.000
<v Speaker 3>a dirt road, a gravel road in parts of its dirt,

816
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:08.760
<v Speaker 3>and it's really a thick area rainforests, a lot of

817
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:12.480
<v Speaker 3>moss on the trees, and you really don't see the ground.

818
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:16.559
<v Speaker 3>It's all just brush and ground cover under the trees

819
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:22.440
<v Speaker 3>and stuff and big old growth trees. So twenty nineteen,

820
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 3>it was, I think it was August twenty sixth when

821
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:28.639
<v Speaker 3>we got up there and we showed up the camp spot.

822
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:31.599
<v Speaker 3>My sister had never been there before. And like I said,

823
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 3>me and my wife had hunted this area for like

824
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:36.320
<v Speaker 3>fourteen years straight, camped in a tent for the whole

825
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:41.400
<v Speaker 3>month and never had anything strange happen or anything but

826
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 3>this strip. We got up there two days before the

827
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.519
<v Speaker 3>elk season started and because we wanted to do some

828
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 3>scouting and stuff and set up camp. And I had

829
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.800
<v Speaker 3>a trail camera up there that I had set up

830
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.920
<v Speaker 3>for two months, had it up there two months before

831
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.760
<v Speaker 3>we got there. And so we got there that evening

832
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.360
<v Speaker 3>kind of started getting camped up, and I ran and

833
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.119
<v Speaker 3>got my trail camera right before dark and came back

834
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:05.760
<v Speaker 3>and we checked it out and there was a bunch

835
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.000
<v Speaker 3>of elk and deer stuff like that on there, but nothing,

836
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:14.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, nothing else. And about ten o'clock that first night,

837
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:16.960
<v Speaker 3>where me and my wife was kind of making noise

838
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 3>do some stuff, and my sister was standing there on

839
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 3>the road and it was like ten o'clock at night.

840
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.599
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, it got dark maybe a half hour

841
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:28.360
<v Speaker 3>or something before that. And my sister just like, well,

842
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I guess we got company. And I kind of looked

843
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:32.840
<v Speaker 3>at her. I'm like, what do you mean. She goes, well,

844
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:36.519
<v Speaker 3>somebody just made like a banging noise sounded like a

845
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.239
<v Speaker 3>tree off, but it was a bang up on the

846
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 3>ridge up there. And I'm like, where did it come from?

847
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.840
<v Speaker 3>And she pointed, and I was my sister, there's nobody

848
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.639
<v Speaker 3>up there. There's no roads, there's no trails. It's just

849
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:52.119
<v Speaker 3>like a steep, thick hillside, like a mountain side. And

850
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.880
<v Speaker 3>they'll have crews. Logging companies will have crews come through

851
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.760
<v Speaker 3>when after they like log an area they'll replant these trees,

852
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:03.280
<v Speaker 3>and after about ten or fifteen years, they'll send cruise

853
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:05.719
<v Speaker 3>in there and they'll cut down certain lunes to kind

854
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:08.719
<v Speaker 3>of sin it, and they just leave those ones they

855
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:10.679
<v Speaker 3>cut down just laying there. So I mean, it's like

856
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 3>a thicket can mean already walked through it. And so

857
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:15.719
<v Speaker 3>when she said that, I was like, well, I'm just

858
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:18.599
<v Speaker 3>telling you right now, there's nobody camping up there. And

859
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:21.000
<v Speaker 3>she goes, well, I don't know what that was. And

860
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 3>so I'll make like a long story short shorter, I suppose.

861
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:32.719
<v Speaker 3>And each day we had stuff like dumps sound like

862
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:37.880
<v Speaker 3>they were being ripped apart, knocking bounds all around us,

863
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:40.719
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes you'd hear like a knock, and then like

864
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:44.039
<v Speaker 3>something was running through the brush like a knock, and

865
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:47.440
<v Speaker 3>you could kind of hear it run off. And each

866
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 3>time I was like, you know, trying to write everything off, like, well,

867
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:53.360
<v Speaker 3>it could have been elk, it could have been deer,

868
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:55.960
<v Speaker 3>could have been there, and the knocking could be like

869
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 3>elk crashing antlers because it's about the time they start

870
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.440
<v Speaker 3>their rut and stuff. Was trying to write everything off

871
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 3>as normal sounds you'd hear in the woods, but in

872
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.920
<v Speaker 3>the back of my mind, you know, I I suspected

873
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't normal sounds that you'd hear in the woods.

874
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 3>And so it was the fucking or third day of

875
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:23.760
<v Speaker 3>hunting season, so it had been like the fifth day

876
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:26.719
<v Speaker 3>we were up there. My sister rode with us, and

877
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:28.280
<v Speaker 3>we drove up this road and we were going to

878
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.679
<v Speaker 3>go on this one hunt. While we were driving up there,

879
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:35.079
<v Speaker 3>we see a herd elk, and those elk instead of

880
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 3>just being like scattered like a herd would be, they

881
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:41.239
<v Speaker 3>were all like growled in like a like a circle,

882
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:43.360
<v Speaker 3>all really tight, and they were kind of just walking

883
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.760
<v Speaker 3>around each other like real tight circle. And I thought

884
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 3>that was kind of strange. But there was a nice

885
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.519
<v Speaker 3>bull in there, and the bull ended up just kind

886
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:55.440
<v Speaker 3>of separating and going like walking off by himself. So

887
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:57.559
<v Speaker 3>me and my wife get out of the rig and

888
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.880
<v Speaker 3>we're bull hunting, and my sister stayed in the truck

889
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:03.280
<v Speaker 3>with the dogs, and I mean I just shut the

890
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 3>truck off and we just me and my wife got

891
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.239
<v Speaker 3>out and started making our hunt, like walking around to

892
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:10.840
<v Speaker 3>get the wind right and stuff and circling around so

893
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:14.519
<v Speaker 3>we can make the stop one of that bowl. And

894
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:17.559
<v Speaker 3>while we were walking down we couldn't hear it because

895
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:19.199
<v Speaker 3>we're down in the brush. I mean, like I said,

896
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:21.840
<v Speaker 3>the brushes over your head, so you're just kind of

897
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:25.920
<v Speaker 3>trying to sneak through the brush, but it's like kind

898
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.519
<v Speaker 3>of rubbing on your head and on your body stuff,

899
00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:31.320
<v Speaker 3>so you couldn't really hear what's going on around you. Well,

900
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:33.440
<v Speaker 3>my sister said, as soon as we left the road

901
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:37.000
<v Speaker 3>and got into the brush, she heard three distinctive knocks,

902
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 3>one from like one side of the elk, one from

903
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:42.840
<v Speaker 3>the other side, and one from like a triangulation. They

904
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:48.599
<v Speaker 3>were like from three different areas. And while directly after

905
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:51.760
<v Speaker 3>she heard that, she saw she saw us walking into

906
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.079
<v Speaker 3>the brush, and she said, right behind us, coming the

907
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:57.280
<v Speaker 3>same direction that we had went, she saw a black,

908
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.119
<v Speaker 3>hairy figure and she did say what it was, but

909
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:06.920
<v Speaker 3>just a dark black figure was walking the same trail

910
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 3>that we had walked, and like behind us. And so

911
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:15.000
<v Speaker 3>we'd made our hunt and everything, and we we spoofed

912
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:17.159
<v Speaker 3>the elk ended up and they all ran off. So

913
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:19.199
<v Speaker 3>we went back to the truck after about an hour

914
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 3>or something, and my sister was like, did you guys

915
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 3>hear those knots? And we're like, no, she guys, did

916
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:27.639
<v Speaker 3>you guys see what was behind you? And we're like no,

917
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.719
<v Speaker 3>and she goes. She goes, brother's sister, I'm telling you

918
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:34.679
<v Speaker 3>there was something walking behind you, guys, following you into

919
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:36.559
<v Speaker 3>those elk and she goes, whatever it was, it was

920
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:39.400
<v Speaker 3>black and it had you. It was like had hair on.

921
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:42.360
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like bald or brown or anything. It was hairy.

922
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:47.119
<v Speaker 3>And we're like, oh, okay, And We've all three had

923
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:50.239
<v Speaker 3>experiences before this. I'm just telling you, guys this experience.

924
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:57.159
<v Speaker 3>And so about the sixth night, I think it was

925
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:03.440
<v Speaker 3>after that, we were sitting around our camp spot, which

926
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:05.480
<v Speaker 3>was just on side of this gravel road. There wasn't

927
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:08.159
<v Speaker 3>any other We saw like one or two vehicles up

928
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:10.360
<v Speaker 3>to this point, like a week into it, just a

929
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:12.920
<v Speaker 3>couple vehicles driving by and we're way up in there,

930
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.639
<v Speaker 3>but we're just camped on side this gravel road on

931
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:20.719
<v Speaker 3>a pullout. So my sister smoked cigarettes and each time

932
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 3>she would get up, I would step up. So let

933
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:24.960
<v Speaker 3>me back a little bit. Every night before this, we

934
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:28.320
<v Speaker 3>would have our lantern. I had a shotgun because not

935
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.960
<v Speaker 3>for anything, but like bears or mountain lions or whatever,

936
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:34.360
<v Speaker 3>just for protection. I'd have my shotgun leaning against our camper,

937
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:37.480
<v Speaker 3>and we'd have a flashlight in our lantern burning and

938
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:39.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, just sit out there and just talk and

939
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:42.679
<v Speaker 3>camp before we go to bed. And so this night

940
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.239
<v Speaker 3>we only had a mosquito candle burning, like one of

941
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:51.760
<v Speaker 3>those centronella mosquito candles, and so it was like really dark.

942
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have my gun or my flash light out.

943
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:58.760
<v Speaker 3>I just had this like little cheap headlamp on and

944
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:00.639
<v Speaker 3>I had it on a green set, so when you

945
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:03.800
<v Speaker 3>turn it on, it was green, and it didn't light

946
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:06.400
<v Speaker 3>everything up very well, but you could see eye shine

947
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:11.440
<v Speaker 3>really well. And so every time my sister would you know,

948
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.280
<v Speaker 3>step up into the gravel getting out away from me

949
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.079
<v Speaker 3>and my wife so the smoke wouldn't go on our face,

950
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:18.679
<v Speaker 3>she would light her cigarette and I would just stand up.

951
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:21.320
<v Speaker 3>And this is like ten o'clock at night again, and

952
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:23.800
<v Speaker 3>so I stood up and shine my light, you know,

953
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:25.400
<v Speaker 3>just to make sure there was no animals or no

954
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:28.960
<v Speaker 3>bears around her or whatever. And so this time she

955
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:31.039
<v Speaker 3>got up, and so I got up with her, and

956
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:33.480
<v Speaker 3>we walked out into the road and I switched on

957
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:36.320
<v Speaker 3>my light and she was lighting her cigarette and I

958
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:38.920
<v Speaker 3>looked directly across the road because that was the closest trees.

959
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:41.440
<v Speaker 3>And then I looked to my right down the road

960
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:46.000
<v Speaker 3>and didn't see nothing, turned to my left and glow

961
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:51.599
<v Speaker 3>and behold, here's this eye shine. And when I walked

962
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:53.559
<v Speaker 3>over and looked to the left, I had walked about

963
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:55.320
<v Speaker 3>ten feet away from my sister, just kind of. I

964
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.559
<v Speaker 3>was just checking her surroundings, and I was like, oh,

965
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:01.320
<v Speaker 3>we got eye shine like that. My sister's like, oh serious,

966
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:04.280
<v Speaker 3>And she walked over and she saw the eyes. And

967
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:07.440
<v Speaker 3>my wife was still sitting beside her camper in her

968
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 3>camp chair, and these eyeballs were like a foot apart,

969
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:17.760
<v Speaker 3>and if I had to guess the size of them,

970
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:20.679
<v Speaker 3>each eye was like the size of a golf ball,

971
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I guess or something. But there was like the shine

972
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:27.480
<v Speaker 3>around it, and they were I had my light on green,

973
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:29.119
<v Speaker 3>so I don't know if it was that, but they

974
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:35.679
<v Speaker 3>were like an electric yellow, an electric yellowish green reflection

975
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:39.320
<v Speaker 3>in the eye shine. And they were really close to

976
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:41.360
<v Speaker 3>the ground, like a couple of feet off the ground,

977
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:46.159
<v Speaker 3>but really far apart. And so I'm she's like, my sister.

978
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:49.480
<v Speaker 3>My sister's like seriously, And she walked up and saw them,

979
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:53.880
<v Speaker 3>and she was like just like hyperventilated. And she went

980
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:56.519
<v Speaker 3>walking back to her car really fast and shut her

981
00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 3>dogs in the car. They were already in the car,

982
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:00.679
<v Speaker 3>but she rolled up the windows in her car so

983
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:03.400
<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't jump out. And my wife had our dog

984
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:08.039
<v Speaker 3>and my sister, and I'm just locked onto this thing.

985
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:11.159
<v Speaker 3>And it's not blinking, it's not looking away, it's just

986
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:15.440
<v Speaker 3>sitting there, look staring right at me. And I couldn't

987
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:18.239
<v Speaker 3>see what I was looking at, but you could just

988
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:22.800
<v Speaker 3>see like the blackest shadow of it, but you couldn't

989
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:24.960
<v Speaker 3>make out of shape. You could just see that there

990
00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 3>was a body attached to the eyeballs. And so my

991
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.199
<v Speaker 3>sister walks back up after she locked her car, and

992
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:35.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm still just staring at it, and it's literally about

993
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:39.039
<v Speaker 3>thirty yards from me maybe, and it's right on the

994
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:41.239
<v Speaker 3>edge of the road, the gravel road that we're on,

995
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:43.760
<v Speaker 3>but there's like a drop off and then it's like

996
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:48.639
<v Speaker 3>a flat off down off that drop off. And so

997
00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:50.960
<v Speaker 3>my mind was thinking it was either a bear or

998
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:53.639
<v Speaker 3>an elk, just like a quick thought. It was like

999
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:56.559
<v Speaker 3>it's a bear or an elk. But my mind was

1000
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:59.360
<v Speaker 3>also saying it doesn't look right because bare eyeballs are

1001
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:01.679
<v Speaker 3>a little They have little beady eyes and they're kind

1002
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:05.440
<v Speaker 3>of close together, and elk can have big eyeballs and

1003
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.320
<v Speaker 3>are kind of spread apart. But the eyes were like

1004
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:11.679
<v Speaker 3>a foot or two off the ground, which means an

1005
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:13.639
<v Speaker 3>elk would basically have to have its head on the

1006
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 3>ground for its eyes to be down there. And it

1007
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:19.239
<v Speaker 3>didn't make no sense. And so my sister walked back

1008
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:22.159
<v Speaker 3>up saw it again and just like and freaked out.

1009
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.280
<v Speaker 3>And finally I was like, I was like, babe, if

1010
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I need my flashlight and my gun right now, because

1011
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm at this point, I'm still thinking it's a bear,

1012
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.679
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm kind of thinking. And so my wife

1013
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:34.320
<v Speaker 3>I hear her get up out of her chair and

1014
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:36.360
<v Speaker 3>go into our camper and I can hear like doom,

1015
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:40.320
<v Speaker 3>and she was getting the flashlight and the shotgun and

1016
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:42.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm still just standing there. I'm not moving my head

1017
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:44.639
<v Speaker 3>and it's not moving, and we're just locked on each

1018
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:47.119
<v Speaker 3>other and my wife I can hear it come out

1019
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:49.000
<v Speaker 3>of the camper and she's walking up to my left

1020
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:53.079
<v Speaker 3>and she goes, here you go bed, and literally she

1021
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:57.599
<v Speaker 3>bumped my left arm and I turned just for I

1022
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:01.119
<v Speaker 3>mean literally half suckond grabbed the flash light and the shotgun.

1023
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:05.119
<v Speaker 3>It turned and whatever it was was already gone.

1024
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Big for the society who would be right back after

1025
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:08.159
<v Speaker 1>these messages?

1026
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Literally half a sucking without a sound, and this place

1027
01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:31.960
<v Speaker 3>is thick rainforest stuff, I mean, just like thick brush.

1028
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Somehow this thing was off the road and gone and

1029
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:41.239
<v Speaker 3>a half a sucking at the most. And so I

1030
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:42.800
<v Speaker 3>was like, where to go? Where to go? And my

1031
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:44.639
<v Speaker 3>sister and my wife's like, I don't know, I don't know.

1032
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.280
<v Speaker 3>So I was shining my flashlight around the road, you know,

1033
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:49.559
<v Speaker 3>down the road and on each side of the road,

1034
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.079
<v Speaker 3>and it was gone. So I kind of walked towards

1035
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.159
<v Speaker 3>it and was shining down through the trees as the

1036
01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:57.960
<v Speaker 3>best I could, and nothing was there. And I was like,

1037
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:00.360
<v Speaker 3>you guys want me to just because I'm still thinking

1038
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:02.119
<v Speaker 3>bear at this point, but I was like, you guys

1039
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:04.280
<v Speaker 3>want me just shoot a warning shot just to make

1040
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:06.920
<v Speaker 3>sure you don't come back. And they're both like, yeah,

1041
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:08.760
<v Speaker 3>go ahead. So I just put my shotgun up in

1042
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:11.679
<v Speaker 3>the air and just you know, shot a shot off.

1043
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:14.559
<v Speaker 3>And we stayed up for like an hour or something

1044
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:17.719
<v Speaker 3>talking about it, and nothing happened that night, And so

1045
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.559
<v Speaker 3>the next morning instead of going hunting at daylight, I

1046
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:23.440
<v Speaker 3>got up and walked down the road just to look

1047
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:26.719
<v Speaker 3>where it was. And it had been. Whatever it was

1048
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:30.960
<v Speaker 3>was directly behind this kind of rotted stump, and you

1049
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.880
<v Speaker 3>could see on the hard packed gravel you could see

1050
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.639
<v Speaker 3>like scuff marks like it pushed itself back off the

1051
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:41.920
<v Speaker 3>road over that bank, like if it and my assumption

1052
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:46.480
<v Speaker 3>was it whatever it was was laying with its body

1053
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:48.840
<v Speaker 3>down off the road, down that little bank, and its

1054
01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:51.239
<v Speaker 3>upper body was on the edge of the road looking

1055
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:54.400
<v Speaker 3>at us around that stump wasn't on stump, it was

1056
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:56.599
<v Speaker 3>behind the stump. The scuff marks were about five feet

1057
01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:01.079
<v Speaker 3>behind that stump, And so we discussed it and everything

1058
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 3>and thought that was really weird. So I'll just fast

1059
01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:09.519
<v Speaker 3>forward to like day nine of our hunt. Was everything

1060
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:12.199
<v Speaker 3>was normal. I mean, like each day something was going on.

1061
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:14.760
<v Speaker 3>We could hear stuff. It never saw anything and never

1062
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:19.920
<v Speaker 3>had anything weird. Well, night of the ninth, about nine

1063
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:23.119
<v Speaker 3>point thirty, as it's starting to get dark, you start

1064
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:28.639
<v Speaker 3>hearing this owl, you know, just a classic like bard owl.

1065
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 3>And my sister was getting her drinking on me and

1066
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:34.800
<v Speaker 3>my wife did drink or nothing, So we were just

1067
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:37.519
<v Speaker 3>sitting there listening and my sister was calling back and

1068
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:39.480
<v Speaker 3>forth this owl, and I was like, Keith, Cindy, you

1069
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:42.039
<v Speaker 3>want me to call? She's like, yeah, go ahead, and

1070
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:44.280
<v Speaker 3>so I would do the who you know call and

1071
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.039
<v Speaker 3>the out me and the owl was talking back and

1072
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:49.519
<v Speaker 3>forth for like a half hour. And my sister has

1073
01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:53.000
<v Speaker 3>this recorded on her phone, and I even joked about, Hey, Cindy,

1074
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:56.119
<v Speaker 3>it's like on Jurassic Park with the owls keeping our

1075
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:58.679
<v Speaker 3>attention over here while the other things sneaking up behind us,

1076
01:02:58.679 --> 01:02:59.800
<v Speaker 3>and we laughed and stuff.

1077
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:00.280
<v Speaker 4>It.

1078
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.440
<v Speaker 3>So about ten o'clock, ten thirty at night, we're getting

1079
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:06.960
<v Speaker 3>ready to go to bed, and my wife was wanting

1080
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.679
<v Speaker 3>to take our little dog to the bathroom before we

1081
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:12.599
<v Speaker 3>got in the camper. So she started walking the dog

1082
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:15.960
<v Speaker 3>around on the leash and stuff. And our dog was

1083
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:18.760
<v Speaker 3>like nervous and wouldn't go and go and go. So

1084
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:22.119
<v Speaker 3>I walked over there and like, you know, Peanut, go mat,

1085
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:24.480
<v Speaker 3>go to the bathroom, Peanut go poopye bee, and she

1086
01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:27.079
<v Speaker 3>just would and would and wouldn't. And so my sister

1087
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:29.440
<v Speaker 3>was sitting over there by our camper, still calling back

1088
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:33.480
<v Speaker 3>and forth to the owl, recording it, and and my wife, Didi,

1089
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:36.360
<v Speaker 3>she was like, I think Cindy's calling is making our

1090
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:38.440
<v Speaker 3>dog nervous. So I said, hey, Cindy, can you stop

1091
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:40.800
<v Speaker 3>calling for a minute so Peanut can go to the bathroom.

1092
01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:44.599
<v Speaker 3>So she's like, okay, Well she stops recording on her phone,

1093
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:48.679
<v Speaker 3>of course, and and you know it's quiet for a second.

1094
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Our dogs still wouldn't go. So I picked up our

1095
01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:54.199
<v Speaker 3>dog and we were walking over to my sister, and

1096
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:56.159
<v Speaker 3>right when I get to my sister, we hear the

1097
01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:58.719
<v Speaker 3>owl go off again. So we all stop and we're

1098
01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:01.599
<v Speaker 3>and I'm holding our dog and we're looking up across

1099
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:04.199
<v Speaker 3>that flat as a creek, and then it goes up

1100
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:10.199
<v Speaker 3>the steep old growth treeze breed ridge and that was

1101
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:13.320
<v Speaker 3>behind our camp. And so the owl was coming right

1102
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:16.320
<v Speaker 3>across that flat, right those trees, like one hundred yards

1103
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:19.239
<v Speaker 3>away or something like that. And but this time when

1104
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:25.119
<v Speaker 3>it called, it did like and it kind of went

1105
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:28.719
<v Speaker 3>down into like this angry sound, like an angry owl,

1106
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:32.480
<v Speaker 3>and immediately to the left of that it did like

1107
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:36.360
<v Speaker 3>a kyote yep, like a coyote yip, and then left

1108
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:41.519
<v Speaker 3>of that this roar that I mean freight trains and

1109
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:46.880
<v Speaker 3>air horns and anything lion like African lions. If you've

1110
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.679
<v Speaker 3>heard them at the zoo that roar they do. H

1111
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:55.719
<v Speaker 3>that was nothing compared to the volume and the depth

1112
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:00.320
<v Speaker 3>and the I don't know how to explain it shook

1113
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:03.639
<v Speaker 3>your chest. It was so loud, and you could hear

1114
01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:09.400
<v Speaker 3>the trees ringing like and then it was like dead quiet,

1115
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:12.280
<v Speaker 3>and I just looked up, and I don't cuss very often,

1116
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:15.599
<v Speaker 3>but I was like, what the F was that? And

1117
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:17.760
<v Speaker 3>my sister and my wife were all just standing there.

1118
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Our jaws just gaped open because it went from this

1119
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:25.800
<v Speaker 3>angry owl to a kyot yp to this war and

1120
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I was like, we need to go right now. So

1121
01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I literally grabbed my shotgun in my flashlight and stood

1122
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:35.599
<v Speaker 3>there shining the direction it came from, while my wife

1123
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.119
<v Speaker 3>went and got her purse and our medicine bag and

1124
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:42.519
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff like our essentials, and my sister was

1125
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:46.000
<v Speaker 3>loading whatever she had outside of camp, just throwing it

1126
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 3>into a car, and we literally left our camper up

1127
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:52.679
<v Speaker 3>there for a week and we just just beat feet

1128
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:55.320
<v Speaker 3>down the road and we had to drive past that area.

1129
01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:58.320
<v Speaker 3>So I told my wife to drive and when we're

1130
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:00.760
<v Speaker 3>going by, this is like I said, about thirty at night,

1131
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I had my window down with my shotgun out the

1132
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:06.639
<v Speaker 3>window and my flashlight shining in the direction just in

1133
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:08.840
<v Speaker 3>case it was charging us as we were leaving it.

1134
01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 3>We didn't know, you know, what was going to happen.

1135
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:14.320
<v Speaker 3>So we ended up leaving our camper up there for

1136
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:17.039
<v Speaker 3>a week. And a week later we went up there

1137
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:20.400
<v Speaker 3>and I had trail cameras around our camper just because

1138
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:23.039
<v Speaker 3>I had them around there, and we didn't get anything

1139
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:25.320
<v Speaker 3>on trail cameras or not, and our camper was fine.

1140
01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:30.119
<v Speaker 3>I didn't see any fingerprints or handprints on the windows

1141
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:33.480
<v Speaker 3>or anything like that. Everything was normal. So we picked

1142
01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:37.519
<v Speaker 3>up our camper a week later, and we've never camped

1143
01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:39.840
<v Speaker 3>at that spot since. We've camped up in those woods,

1144
01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:43.079
<v Speaker 3>but never in that same spot. So that's kind of

1145
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:46.280
<v Speaker 3>my twenty nineteen story.

1146
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Who David, that's man? That is wild. I don't think

1147
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:55.199
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to anyone else from that area yet, but

1148
01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:57.599
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say real quick, we've got about

1149
01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:00.960
<v Speaker 1>one hundred people watching live, and I just want to

1150
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.599
<v Speaker 1>say thanks to everyone watching live. This is the Bigfoot

1151
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Encounter's live show Bigfoot Society, and read that what's scrolling

1152
01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:11.199
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom. If you've got an encounter to call

1153
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:14.840
<v Speaker 1>in with. But David Man, what an interesting And I

1154
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:18.000
<v Speaker 1>was going to ask you about the pattern, if there's

1155
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.760
<v Speaker 1>a pattern to the knox, but you already had mentioned

1156
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:25.639
<v Speaker 1>that you were hearing like three That's a common thread

1157
01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:28.599
<v Speaker 1>I've heard come up in a few encounters, like you

1158
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:33.039
<v Speaker 1>usually hear three knocks. So that's really interesting that you

1159
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:35.320
<v Speaker 1>did bring that up where it was almost like the

1160
01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:39.960
<v Speaker 1>triangulation of the knocks going on as well. Did your

1161
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:43.159
<v Speaker 1>sister tell you how far away or how far behind

1162
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the figure was behind you guys when you left there's

1163
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:49.199
<v Speaker 1>that black figure that was that was following you.

1164
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:54.719
<v Speaker 3>She said it literally like when we she lost sight

1165
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:57.360
<v Speaker 3>of us, we were probably I would say, you know,

1166
01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 3>two or three hundred yards away from the when we

1167
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:03.159
<v Speaker 3>entered into the brush to kind of make our sneak,

1168
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:06.000
<v Speaker 3>And she said she could see us, you know, like

1169
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:07.880
<v Speaker 3>parts of us every now and then kind of going

1170
01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:09.880
<v Speaker 3>through the brush. Yeah, and as soon as she lost

1171
01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:13.039
<v Speaker 3>sight of us, she said, from where she could see

1172
01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:16.359
<v Speaker 3>us going into the brush, like something immediately was falling

1173
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:20.560
<v Speaker 3>right behind us, like like right behind us. I don't

1174
01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:24.279
<v Speaker 3>know how closed, but yeah, like literally, And so I

1175
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:28.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of suspect this is just speculation that the reason

1176
01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:31.239
<v Speaker 3>why those elk were all in a bunch like that

1177
01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:35.880
<v Speaker 3>was maybe they were hunting those same elk. Yeah, that's

1178
01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:36.560
<v Speaker 3>just my thought.

1179
01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's yeah, I mean, that's that is wild. The

1180
01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:43.800
<v Speaker 1>part with the eyeshine was was very interesting. There's a

1181
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:47.119
<v Speaker 1>few back and forth comments that were interesting. Tate what

1182
01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:49.279
<v Speaker 1>had some you know, he was like, well, maybe a

1183
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:51.159
<v Speaker 1>mountain lion, and you know, I was thinking that too,

1184
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:53.239
<v Speaker 1>but I you know, I was also thinking that you

1185
01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:56.359
<v Speaker 1>had mentioned that the eyes were very big, and they

1186
01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:59.199
<v Speaker 1>were they were super you know, far apart, and but

1187
01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, he said it was only a

1188
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:03.399
<v Speaker 1>few feet off the ground. So then I'm thinking, well,

1189
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:07.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe we're looking at some sort of like spider crawl

1190
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:11.880
<v Speaker 1>or on All four's situation, which might explain how you

1191
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:16.359
<v Speaker 1>could have the eyes so far apart but yet so

1192
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:20.119
<v Speaker 1>close to the grounds. It's a very interesting situation. So

1193
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you have any thoughts about that.

1194
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, I do, and I thought and my son was

1195
01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:27.800
<v Speaker 3>the first one to suggest, you know, here we call

1196
01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:30.399
<v Speaker 3>them cougars, but they're mountain lions. He thought that, and

1197
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:33.079
<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, you know, it's possible, but look

1198
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:35.960
<v Speaker 3>at a cat. Look at a cat. Their eyes are

1199
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:38.520
<v Speaker 3>not they're not that huge. They're you know, pretty good

1200
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:42.399
<v Speaker 3>size around, but they're not that far apart. And the

1201
01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:46.079
<v Speaker 3>weird thing is, Okay, that could be an explanation, but

1202
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:48.319
<v Speaker 3>explain to me how it knew when I turned and

1203
01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:51.079
<v Speaker 3>grabbed the choku and in the flashlight, how at that

1204
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:54.000
<v Speaker 3>instant that is when it was gone, you know that

1205
01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:56.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of was I suspected that was kind of weird,

1206
01:09:57.119 --> 01:10:00.720
<v Speaker 3>which I suppose if you unlock eye that might be

1207
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:02.720
<v Speaker 3>when they moved. I mean, I could get that too.

1208
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:07.640
<v Speaker 3>But the thing Jeremiah about it was that this was,

1209
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:10.039
<v Speaker 3>like I said, the gravel road, and then where it

1210
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:12.479
<v Speaker 3>was was right on the lip where it dropped down

1211
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:15.600
<v Speaker 3>like about ten feet, like the bank dropped down like

1212
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:18.840
<v Speaker 3>ten feet, and then there was a flat and it

1213
01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.439
<v Speaker 3>could have been like a spider crawler down in that

1214
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:23.680
<v Speaker 3>on all fours, or it could have been just laying

1215
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:26.720
<v Speaker 3>with its body off the road and its upper body

1216
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:28.960
<v Speaker 3>was on the road on the edge of the road.

1217
01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Whatever it was, it discussed hard at gravel you could

1218
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:40.319
<v Speaker 3>see like three distinct guff marks were like, yeah, pushed

1219
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:41.079
<v Speaker 3>itself back.

1220
01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:46.079
<v Speaker 1>That's so interesting, And I mean, you guys had some

1221
01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:48.920
<v Speaker 1>weird stuff going on there, and it's cool that you

1222
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:52.399
<v Speaker 1>guys were out there for not just two or three nights.

1223
01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're out there for what'd you say, at

1224
01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:56.520
<v Speaker 1>least nine days? And then you had it out.

1225
01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:00.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that ninth night, we had it out. Me and

1226
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.039
<v Speaker 3>my wife went camping the next weekend, but in a

1227
01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:06.119
<v Speaker 3>whole different spot and I literally, I mean I've never been.

1228
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not afraid of any animals, but literally I was

1229
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.079
<v Speaker 3>in like cold sweat trying to go to sleep the

1230
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:15.279
<v Speaker 3>first night back out camping. I was like, just leave

1231
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:17.680
<v Speaker 3>me alone. Just leave me That's what I was thinking.

1232
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Right, Ah, that's wild. Let's see. Let's see here looking

1233
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:26.199
<v Speaker 1>through to see if we have any questions for you here.

1234
01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh t is asking have you ever been to the

1235
01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Patterson Gimlin film site at all?

1236
01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I have not.

1237
01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I've been. I've been been not. I haven't done the

1238
01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:36.520
<v Speaker 3>actual hiking.

1239
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:39.399
<v Speaker 1>No sweat.

1240
01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:41.319
<v Speaker 3>And over and over.

1241
01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, you've got a oh yeah, can'k okay? Can

1242
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Squatch says, what about David's experience of something trying to

1243
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:51.560
<v Speaker 1>get into his family's trailer when he was a kid.

1244
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:56.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a whole nother long story.

1245
01:11:57.079 --> 01:11:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 3>I could give a short version of it, or I

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<v Speaker 3>can wait, we can wait until I do the actual

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<v Speaker 3>thing with you, if you want, or whichever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say that maybe let's do a part

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<v Speaker 1>two because I want to make sure that you can

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<v Speaker 1>do all the details and give it, you know, give

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<v Speaker 1>it all you need to. So let's let's maybe hold,

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<v Speaker 1>let's wait until you come on the show, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know is coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>So will I got a story and I got another

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<v Speaker 3>one where it's basically your I felt like I grew up,

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<v Speaker 3>which is in Weaberville, California, in Triney County, California, and

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<v Speaker 3>that that one is a whole nether, a whole nether experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So David, I'm excited to chat with you on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? Do you go to any festivals in Oregon?

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<v Speaker 3>There's one coming up that probably will go to. It's

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<v Speaker 3>over I think it's over by oak Ridge or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll see you there, yeah or nice there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'll be at that and we go.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been to the Bigfoot Museum with Cliff Bratman Museum,

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<v Speaker 3>been there, but really that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, we're going to lb L though.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're going all the way out to l b L.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're going. When we're gonna be there, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>arrive in and Nashville on a third, uh, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna actually go out to the l on the

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<v Speaker 3>fort and then we're coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on the eighth, just by yourself or you going

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<v Speaker 1>out with a group.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and my wife are going there, and there's a

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<v Speaker 3>whole huge group.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the thing that Squashing Hollers was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>in the comments?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>The mean great. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, dude, that's awesome. You're going all the way

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<v Speaker 1>out for that. We're flying man, yeah, m And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in Iowa and I'm not even going someday.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, you gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know. It sounds like it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a one time deal. I bet it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be going on more than once.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, you know, like with Sawdust, with be TV

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, they've they've done for years. So it's oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>cool kind of not maybe an annual thing, but maybe

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<v Speaker 3>every couple of years they do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Well, David, thank you so much for sharing

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<v Speaker 1>your one story of it sounds like many stories, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be chatting again in the future for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You're very welcome and I thank you for having.

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<v Speaker 1>Me on man yeap, talk to you later, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, have a good one, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to take a few minutes to say

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to you allan listeners for listening to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know

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<v Speaker 1>Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Six's

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon Rainbow, Oregon McKinsey Bridge area, sweet Home, pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>that entire area, the north part if you get what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. I'll see you back next time. Listeners. Sasat

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<v Speaker 1>Summerfest this year July eleventh through the twelfth. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fantastic July eleventh through twelfth in Greenwaters Park

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<v Speaker 1>and Oakridge, Oregon. And listeners, if you're going to go,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get two day ticket for the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>one if you use the code b f S like

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot Society but BFS, and it'll get us some off

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<v Speaker 1>your cost. Priscilla wasn't nice enough to provide that for

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<v Speaker 1>my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you there, so make sure you head over to

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<v Speaker 1>www dot Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and pick up your

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<v Speaker 1>tickets today