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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to try a little mental experiment with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, im game.

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<v Speaker 2>Picture a clock, and not a digital display on your phone,

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<v Speaker 2>but an old school, high precision mechanical.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch, right, like a really finely tuned gear system.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. You can hear it ticking, tick tick tick. It

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<v Speaker 2>has a perfect rhythm, unshakable.

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<v Speaker 3>I am visualizing it reliable and steady.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, take that watch and throw it into the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of a hurricane, well that escalated quickly, and not just

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<v Speaker 2>a regular hurricane. Throw it into a jet engine that

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<v Speaker 2>is somehow inside herane. The noise is completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely just absolute chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>The pressure is crushing, the turbulence is ripping literally everything apart.

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<v Speaker 3>And I assume my job in this experiment is to

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<v Speaker 3>still hear the ticking.

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<v Speaker 2>Your job is to hear the ticking. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>actually more than that. You need to measure the gap

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<v Speaker 2>between the ticks to the nanosecond. Oh wow, because if

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<v Speaker 2>that watch skips a beat, I mean even by a

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<v Speaker 2>fraction of a fraction of a second, it tells you

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<v Speaker 2>something about the wind and the pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>It tells you about the very fabric of the reality

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<v Speaker 3>it is floating in. That is a terrifying level of precision.

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<v Speaker 3>But I know exactly where you were going with this.

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<v Speaker 3>You were talking about the galactic center.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally am We're talking about a needle in the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate haystack.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, the biggest haystack we know of.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we are looking at a discovery announced just days

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<v Speaker 2>ago in February twenty twenty six, a team of astronomers,

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<v Speaker 2>using data meant to hunt for aliens, has potentially found

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<v Speaker 2>the holy Grail of astrophysics.

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<v Speaker 3>The Holy Grail. It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>A cosmic clock spinning hundreds of times a second, hidden

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<v Speaker 2>in the darkest, loudest, most dangerous neighborhood in the Milky Way.

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<v Speaker 3>Right next to the supermassive black hole Sagittarius a star.

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<v Speaker 2>And holy Grail is not hyperbole here. Scientists have been

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<v Speaker 2>chasing this specific setup for decades.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, finding a pulsar orbiting a black hole is the dream.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the one test of Einstein's general relativity that

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<v Speaker 3>we just have not been able to run.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet exactly if this thing is real, And we really

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<v Speaker 2>need to stress early on that it is a candidate, right, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not fully confirmed yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it is real, it is not just a

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<v Speaker 2>new star. It is a laboratory. It is a way

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<v Speaker 2>to break physics or prove it right once and for all.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a massive deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So today we are exploring a brand new paper. The

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<v Speaker 2>title is on the Deepest Search for Galactic Center Pulsars.

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<v Speaker 3>Published in the Astrophysical Journal.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly on February twenty one, twenty twenty six. We are

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<v Speaker 2>going to look at the machine they used to find it.

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<v Speaker 2>We will look at the monster black hole it is orbiting.

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<v Speaker 3>And why this tiny, spinning city sized mag It might

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<v Speaker 3>hold the key to understanding gravity itself.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a heavy topic today.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally the heaviest topic in the galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>So let us start with the headline. This is fresh

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<v Speaker 2>news and it is a really interesting collaboration between Columbia

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<v Speaker 2>University and Breakthrough Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Breakthrough Listen part is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when I hear breakthrough listen, I usually think of

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<v Speaker 2>giant satellite dishes listening for little green men.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, the search for extraterrestrial intelligence isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That their whole mandate, looking for alien civilizations, It is.

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<v Speaker 3>That is their primary mission. They scan the skies for

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<v Speaker 3>techno signatures.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning signals that look engineered by someone rather than just

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<v Speaker 2>natural space noise.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. But here is the thing about hunting for aliens.

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<v Speaker 3>To do it right, you need incredibly sensitive equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>Because space is big and signals are faint.

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<v Speaker 3>And you need to process a staggering amount of data.

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<v Speaker 3>You are looking for narrow band signals in an ocean

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<v Speaker 3>of cosmic static.

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<v Speaker 2>So essentially they build a massive vacuum clean for radio waves.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a brilliant way to put it. A giant vacuum.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you turn on a vacuum that powerful, you

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<v Speaker 3>do not just suck up the specific dust bunny you

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<v Speaker 2>You get everything else on the floor too.

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<v Speaker 3>You get the background noise, you get interference from satellites. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and you get rare natural phenomena.

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<v Speaker 2>It is almost ironic. They were listening for a call

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<v Speaker 2>from ET and instead they picked up the heartbeat of

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<v Speaker 2>a dead star.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in astrophysics, one person's noise is another person's data.

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<v Speaker 3>Breakthrough Listens has been surveying the Galactic Center for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Why there, though, Why look for aliens in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of a hurricane.

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<v Speaker 3>Because hypothetically, if you were in an advanced civilization, that

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<v Speaker 3>is a great place to put a beacon. It is

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<v Speaker 3>the town square of the galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>High visibility. Anyone looking inward would.

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<v Speaker 3>See it exactly. So they're staring at the Galactic Center

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<v Speaker 3>with the Green Bank telescope.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is this massive one hundred meter dish in West Virginia, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Huge dish, And because of that they are collecting some

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<v Speaker 3>of the highest resolution radio data have ever seen of

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<v Speaker 3>that specific region.

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<v Speaker 2>So the research team basically saw this data sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>and said, hey, while you are sifting through that, hey

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<v Speaker 2>looking for alien needles? Mind if we look for pulsar needles.

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<v Speaker 3>And they found one, or well they think they found one.

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<v Speaker 2>They found an eight point one to nine millisecond pulsar candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, a candidate. That is a very careful scientific word.

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<v Speaker 2>It means do not pop the champagne quite yet, right right.

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<v Speaker 3>It means we see a signal. It looks like a duck.

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<v Speaker 3>It quacts like a duck, but the pond is so

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<v Speaker 3>foggy we cannot quite see the feathers yet.

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<v Speaker 2>We will definitely get into why it is so hard

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<v Speaker 2>to confirm later. I know the galactic center is a

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<v Speaker 2>total mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh is a chaotic mess. But yes, they have a

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<v Speaker 3>very strong signal repeating every eight point one to nine millisecond.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us pause on the object itself for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>An eight point one nine millisecond pulsar. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we toss the word pulsar around a lot in sci

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<v Speaker 2>fi movies. We do. It sounds cool, but let us

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<v Speaker 2>ground this for you listening. We are not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>a normal star like our son.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all. A pulsar is what you get

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<v Speaker 3>when a massive star dies, a star much bigger than

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<v Speaker 3>our Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>It runs out of fuel, right, It.

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<v Speaker 3>Runs out of fuel and collapses under its own gravity.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it explodes into supernova. Big boom, the biggest boom.

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<v Speaker 3>The outer layers get blasted off into space, but the core,

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<v Speaker 3>the core gets crushed.

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<v Speaker 2>Crushed how much exactly? Give me a sense of the

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<v Speaker 2>scale here.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine taking the mass of the Sun, all that gas

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<v Speaker 3>all that fire and compressing it into a ball the

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<v Speaker 3>size of Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 2>A ball twelve miles across.

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<v Speaker 3>Rubb twelve miles across.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is just insanely dense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's inconceivable. A single tea spoon of this material would

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<v Speaker 3>weigh a billion tons on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>A billion tons.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the atoms themselves are crushed so hard that the

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<v Speaker 3>electrons and protons merge together to form neutrons.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so that is why we call it a neutron star.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, it is basically one giant atomic nucleus the size

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<v Speaker 3>of a city.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we have a city sized zombie star corpse.

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<v Speaker 2>But why does it pulse? Why is it acting like

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<v Speaker 2>a clock?

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<v Speaker 3>Two things happen during that collapse. First, the magnetic field

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<v Speaker 3>gets compressed and it amplifies.

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<v Speaker 2>So it becomes super magnetic.

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<v Speaker 3>Trillions of times stronger than Earth's magnetic field. And second,

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<v Speaker 3>conservation of angular momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>Kicks in the figure skaterect exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know when a figure skater pulls their arms in

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<v Speaker 3>and they suddenly spin way.

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<v Speaker 2>Faster, Yeah, they become a blur.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, imagine a star that was a million miles wide

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly shrinking to ten miles wide. It spins insanely.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast, and it has that crazy magnetic field right.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of the magnetic field, it beams out radio waves

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<v Speaker 3>from its magnetic.

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<v Speaker 2>Poles like a lighthouse.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a perfect analogy. The beam is always on,

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<v Speaker 3>but the star is spinning. So if Earth happens to

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<v Speaker 3>be in the path of that sweeping beam, we see

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<v Speaker 3>a flash, flash, flash, exactly, and that flash is the

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<v Speaker 3>tick of our clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So for normal pulsars, that tick is fast, right,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe once a second.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, a typical pulsar might spin once a second or so.

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<v Speaker 3>But this object, this candidate, it is not a normal pulsar.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it is a millisecond pulsar or MSP.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is ticking every eight point one to nine milliseconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the math for me. How fast is that star spinning?

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<v Speaker 3>That is roughly one hundred and twenty two rotations every

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and twenty two times a second a city

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<v Speaker 2>size ball of neutrons.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the surface velocity is a significant fraction of the

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<v Speaker 3>speed of light. It is mind boggling.

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<v Speaker 2>And here is the crucial part for our story today.

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<v Speaker 2>Millisecond pulsars do not just spin fast. They spin with

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<v Speaker 2>terrifying regularity.

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<v Speaker 3>They rival our best atomic clocks. They are some of

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<v Speaker 3>the most stable timekeepers in the entire physical universe.

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<v Speaker 2>How regular are we talking?

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<v Speaker 3>A normal pulsar is like a cheap courtz watch. It

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<v Speaker 3>might drift a little bit over a few years as

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<v Speaker 3>it loses energy, but an MSP will keep perfect time

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<v Speaker 3>to within a microsecond over billions of years.

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<v Speaker 2>So nature essentially accidentally built a perfect chronometer.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, accidentally might be the wrong word for an MSP.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a whole backstory to these speed demaons.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, they do not just start out that fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually when a pulser is born, it spins fast, but

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<v Speaker 3>then it gradually slows down over time that loses energy

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<v Speaker 3>to the surrounding space.

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<v Speaker 2>So to get an old pulsar to spin one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty two times a second, he usually.

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<v Speaker 3>Needs a partner. We call him recycled.

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<v Speaker 2>Pulsars recycled like it gets a second life exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The neutron star is in a binary orbit with another

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<v Speaker 3>regular star. It's gravity is so intense it starts stripping

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<v Speaker 2>It eats its companion star.

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<v Speaker 3>It siphons the gas off, and as that gas falls

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<v Speaker 3>onto the neutron star, it spirals in and transfers its

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so it physically spins up the dead star.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is like hitting a spinning top with a

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<v Speaker 2>That makes total sense. So finding an MSP usually implies

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty complex history a binary star system gas swapping.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But finding one here, specifically in the galactic center,

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<v Speaker 3>that is the real.

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<v Speaker 2>Headline which brings us to the location. Because having a

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<v Speaker 3>Is useful, very useful for astronomy.

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<v Speaker 2>But having a perfect clock sitting on the edge of

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<v Speaker 3>It transforms the discovery from a cool astronomical object into

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<v Speaker 2>Let us talk about that neighborhood. The research describes this

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<v Speaker 3>Sgr a star, the supermassive black hole at the absolute

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we often visualize the center of the

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<v Speaker 2>galaxy as this glowing, beautiful, peaceful orb of light, but physically,

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<v Speaker 3>It is the most hostile environment you can imagine. It

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<v Speaker 3>is a cosmic moshpit.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wash pit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in our neighborhood. Out here in the spiral arms,

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<v Speaker 3>stars are pretty far apart. If the Sun were a

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<v Speaker 3>a great fruit in California.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of personal space exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the galactic center, the stars are packed in tight.

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<v Speaker 3>The radiation is just intense.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's debris everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, massive magnetic filaments, clouds of super hot gas, shockwaves

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<v Speaker 3>from old supernova explosions, bouncing around.

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<v Speaker 2>And sitting right in the middle of this total chaos

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<v Speaker 3>Four million solar masses of black hole. It dominates everything

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<v Speaker 2>Its gravity anchors the entire galaxy, and.

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<v Speaker 3>This pulsar candidate is apparently deep within its fhere of influence.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have a question about that. If this place

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<v Speaker 2>living and dying there, shouldn't the galactic center just be

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<v Speaker 2>full of pulsars? You would think, so, why is finding

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<v Speaker 3>That is actually known as the missing pulsar problem. It

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the nagging mysteries of astrophysics.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, Wait, there is an official missing pulsar problem

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<v Speaker 2>a huge one.

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<v Speaker 3>Based on the sheer number of massive stars we see

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<v Speaker 3>dying in the center, there should be thousands of pulsars there,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe tens.

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<v Speaker 2>Of thousands, but until recently we.

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<v Speaker 3>Had found basically none.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are they hiding from us?

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<v Speaker 3>They are not hiding, They're being camouflaged. This goes back

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<v Speaker 3>to our vacuum cleaner analogy from earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait listening for the radio click.

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<v Speaker 3>To find a pulsar, you have to hear the radio

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<v Speaker 3>clicks sweeping past Earth. But the galactic center is filled

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<v Speaker 3>with ionized plasma hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Charged gas, and radio waves do not play nicely with plasma.

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<v Speaker 3>They absolutely hated. It causes two mathi of problems for astronomers,

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<v Speaker 3>dispersion and scattering.

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<v Speaker 2>Break those two down for me. Start with dispersion.

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<v Speaker 3>Dispersion means the high frequency parts of the pulsar's signal

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<v Speaker 3>travel faster through the plasma than the low frequency parts.

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<v Speaker 2>So the signal gets stretched.

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<v Speaker 3>Out exactly the sharp click gets smeared out into a

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<v Speaker 3>long slide whistle sound. We can correct for that mathematically

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<v Speaker 3>if we are smart about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Though.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so dispersion is annoying but fixable. What about scattering?

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<v Speaker 3>Scattering is way worse. Imagine shining a crisp laser pointer

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<v Speaker 3>through a pane of frosted glass.

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<v Speaker 2>The beam spreads down, gets all fuzzy.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, The sharp click of the pulsar gets blurred into

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<v Speaker 3>a long, mushy hiss, and if the scattering is too strong,

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<v Speaker 3>the pulse just disappears entirely into the background noise.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pulsars are there, they are screaming into the void,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fog is just too thick for us to

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<v Speaker 2>see the lighthouse beam.

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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly it, and that is why this specific

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<v Speaker 3>discovery is so incredibly impressive. They did not just point

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<v Speaker 3>a telescope and get lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>What did they do differently?

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<v Speaker 3>They use high frequency observations up around four to eight

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<v Speaker 3>gigahertz because high frequencies punched through that plasma fog much

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<v Speaker 3>better than lower frequencies.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, So they essentially change the channel to a frequency

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<v Speaker 2>that the fog does not block as much.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But that comes with a major trade off. Pulsars

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<v Speaker 3>are usually much dimmer at high frequencies.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you were trading blurriness for faintness exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It is an incredibly difficult balance to strike. Finding This

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<v Speaker 3>eight point one to nine millisecond signal is a huge

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<v Speaker 3>testament to the sensitivity of the Green Bank.

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<v Speaker 2>Telescope and to the processing algorithms the team used to

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<v Speaker 2>clean up the data.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, the computing power required to sift through that is immense.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have a miracle detection of a perfect clock

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in a thick fog bank orbiting a super massive

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<v Speaker 2>black hole.

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<v Speaker 3>And that proximity to the black hole is the key

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<v Speaker 3>to everything, because when you have a clock next to

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<v Speaker 3>a massive gravity, well, things get weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Einstein weird, very Einstein weird. This is the part I

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<v Speaker 2>have been waiting for, the holy grail. Why does Einstein's

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<v Speaker 2>ghosts care so much about this dead spinning star?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let us talk about general relativity. It is our

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<v Speaker 3>absolute best working theory of gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>The core idea being that matter tells space how to curve.

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<v Speaker 3>And space tells matter how to move.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the classic bowling ball in the trampoline analogy.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Sagittarius star is a very heavy bowling ball. It

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<v Speaker 3>creates a deep, deep dent in the fabric of space time, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Four million solar mass dent.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we have tested general relativity a lot here on

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<v Speaker 3>Earth and throughout the Solar System, and it works beautifully.

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<v Speaker 2>But those are weak gravity environments.

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<v Speaker 3>Earth is a tiny pebble compared to a super massive

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<v Speaker 3>black hole.

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<v Speaker 2>So we want to know does the theory hold up

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<v Speaker 2>in the strongest possible gravity.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly does the math break down at the very edge

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<v Speaker 3>of the abyss. That is what physicist are desperate to

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<v Speaker 3>find out.

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<v Speaker 2>And the pulsar helps us do that.

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<v Speaker 3>How exactly because it is a clock. Imagine the pulsar

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<v Speaker 3>is orbiting the black hole. As it goes behind the

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<v Speaker 3>black hole. From our perspective, the radio waves have to

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<v Speaker 3>travel past the black hole to get to Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>The ticks of the clog have to skim the edge

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<v Speaker 2>of the crater.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and because space is severely curved, the path the

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<v Speaker 3>light has to take is longer. It is not a

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<v Speaker 3>straight line anymore. Space itself is warped, so it has.

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<v Speaker 2>To travel further, which causes a delay.

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<v Speaker 3>It is called the Shapiro delay.

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<v Speaker 2>The Shapiro delay. So the ticks should literally arrive late.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, if we time the ticks, remember they are incredibly precise,

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<v Speaker 3>and we see them arriving slightly later than they should.

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<v Speaker 3>When the star is behind the black hole.

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<v Speaker 2>We can measure the delay, We.

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<v Speaker 3>Can measure the exact curvature of space time. We can

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<v Speaker 3>map the pothole using a stopwatch.

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible. You are using the delay of a

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<v Speaker 2>tiny radio wave to map the invisible geometry of the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>And it gets even cooler than that. There's another relativistic

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<v Speaker 3>effect called frame dragging, sometimes called the lens thiring.

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<v Speaker 2>Effect frame dragging that sounds like a video game graphics glitch.

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<v Speaker 3>It is much trippier than a glitch. Since the black

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<v Speaker 3>hole is spinning, it literally drags space time along with

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<v Speaker 3>it as it turns.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a spoon twisting in a jar of honey.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, space itself is twisting around the black hole.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pulsar is not just orbiting in a static

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<v Speaker 2>dip on the trampoline. It is orbiting in a whirlpool

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<v Speaker 2>of twisting space.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and that twisting should make the pulsar's orbit wobble

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<v Speaker 3>in a very specific mathematical way.

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<v Speaker 2>And because it is a perfect clock, we can measure

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<v Speaker 2>that wobble.

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<v Speaker 3>If we can track this eight point one to nine

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<v Speaker 3>millisecond signal for a few years, we could potentially detect

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<v Speaker 3>that precise.

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<v Speaker 2>Wobble, and if the wobble matches Einstein's.

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<v Speaker 3>Math, then he is right again. General relativity holds up

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<v Speaker 3>in the extreme limit.

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<v Speaker 2>And what if it doesn't match.

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<v Speaker 3>Then someone wins a Nobel prize. Because we have found

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<v Speaker 3>a crack in general relativity, we would need new physics.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why we call this the Holy grail. It

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<v Speaker 2>is the ultimate stress test for physics.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no better laboratory in the universe for this

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<v Speaker 3>than a pulsar near a supermassive black hole.

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<v Speaker 2>But and there's always a butt in astrophysics. We are

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<v Speaker 2>not quite ready to hand out Nobel prizes yet, No,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not, which brings us to the uncertainty. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to be very careful with our language here. Today the

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<v Speaker 2>research describes this as an intriguing millisecond pulsar candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>Candidate being the operative word.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning they haven't officially hired it yet to do the

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<v Speaker 2>physics test.

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<v Speaker 3>Meaning they are reasonably confident they see something real but

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<v Speaker 3>has not been fully verified by independent observations.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it so hard to confirm? I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>it is beeping every eight milliseconds, can another observatory just

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<v Speaker 2>point their telescope at it? Tomorrow? And say, yep, there

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that crowded and turbulent environment we.

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<v Speaker 2>Talked about the Times square noise level exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The galactic center is full of natural interference. There is dust,

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<v Speaker 3>there's hot gas, there are countless other overlapping radio sources.

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<v Speaker 2>It is allowed room.

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<v Speaker 3>But the biggest enemy here is actually RFI radio frequency interference,

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<v Speaker 3>which comes from where us humans. We are incredibly noisy

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<v Speaker 3>creatures in the radio spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, satellites, cell phones.

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<v Speaker 3>Microwave ovens, airport, radar, military communications. All of these things

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<v Speaker 3>emit radio waves that telescopes can pick up.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were saying someone heating up a frozen burrito

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<v Speaker 2>could accidentally mimic a pulsar.

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<v Speaker 3>It has literally happened before, no way. Yes, there was

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<v Speaker 3>a famous case a few years ago where astronomers that

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<v Speaker 3>they found a bizarre new type of deep space radio signal.

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<v Speaker 3>They called them peritons, and what were they. It turned

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<v Speaker 3>out to be the microwave in the observatory breakroom. Someone

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<v Speaker 3>was opening the door before the timer went off and

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<v Speaker 3>it let out a tiny burst of radio waves.

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<v Speaker 2>That is hilarious and tragic.

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<v Speaker 3>So astronomers are very paranoid about RFI now the Green

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<v Speaker 3>Bay Observatory is located in a national radio quiet zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they banned cell phones and Wi Fi?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, to prevent local interference, But satellites flying overhead you

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<v Speaker 3>cannot ban those GPS satellites, starlink, you name it.

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<v Speaker 2>So how does this team know their eight point one

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<v Speaker 2>to nine millisecond tick isn't just a satellite passing by

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 3>They look for that dispersion we talked about earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>The slide whistle effect from the plasma fog.

439
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. An artificial signal from Earth or a low orbit

440
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<v Speaker 3>satellite will not have that dispersion because it hasn't traveled

441
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<v Speaker 3>through twenty five thousand light years of interstellar gunk. It

442
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<v Speaker 3>is clean, right, But this candidate signal does show signs

443
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<v Speaker 3>of heavy dispersion, and the amount of dispersion is consistent

444
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<v Speaker 3>with it being all the way at the galactic center.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that is a massive point in its favor.

446
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<v Speaker 3>It is a very strong piece of evidence, but they

447
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<v Speaker 3>still need to re observe it. They need to see

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<v Speaker 3>it again, preferably with a different telescope or at a

449
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<v Speaker 3>different time.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Of year, just to ensure it is not a one

451
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<v Speaker 2>off fluke or some weird harmonic of local noise.

452
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, science reques wires reproducibility, and.

453
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<v Speaker 2>That actually leads to a really unique and cool part

454
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<v Speaker 2>of the story. Usually, when a team finds a potential

455
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<v Speaker 2>holy grail, they hoard their data right.

456
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, They lock it down until they can publish

457
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<v Speaker 3>the final confirmation.

458
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<v Speaker 2>They say, this is my discovery. Go get your own telescope.

459
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<v Speaker 3>Very common in competitive fields.

460
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<v Speaker 2>But this team is not doing that. The breakthrough listen,

461
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<v Speaker 2>folks are making the observational data publicly available.

462
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<v Speaker 3>It is a huge breath of fresh air.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Why are they doing that? Is it just pure scientific altruism?

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<v Speaker 3>Partly yes, it is a commitment to the philosophy of

465
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<v Speaker 3>open science, But practically speaking, it is because the data

466
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<v Speaker 3>is just overwhelming.

467
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<v Speaker 2>How much data are we talking about.

468
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<v Speaker 3>We are talking about petabytes of raw information petible. Yes,

469
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<v Speaker 3>it is too much for one small team to cone

470
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<v Speaker 3>through perfectly and quickly. By releasing it, they are essentially

471
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<v Speaker 3>crowdsourcing the verification process.

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<v Speaker 2>They are saying, here's the giant haystack. Here is what

473
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<v Speaker 2>we think is a needle. You all look too. Exactly, so, theoretically,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're listening to this right now, and you happen

475
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<v Speaker 2>to be a grad student in astrophysics or just a

476
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<v Speaker 2>very smart programmer with a ton of spare computing power.

477
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<v Speaker 3>You could go download this data right now and help

478
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<v Speaker 3>confirm it.

479
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<v Speaker 2>That is wild.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the software they used to hunt for pulsars,

481
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<v Speaker 3>things like Presto, which is a standard search code that.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Is open source too, So the tools and the data

483
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<v Speaker 2>are just out there.

484
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<v Speaker 3>You can run your own folding algorithms on the raw data.

485
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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you find it totally different pulsar they missed, or

486
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<v Speaker 3>maybe you find the final proof for this candidate.

487
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<v Speaker 2>I just love that it is like a global public challenge.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Here is a strange noise in the dark who wants

489
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<v Speaker 2>to help figure out what made it.

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<v Speaker 3>It completely democratizes the discovery process. Instead of a handful

491
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<v Speaker 3>of researchers holding the keys, the entire global scientific community

492
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<v Speaker 3>can look at the ticking and weigh.

493
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<v Speaker 2>In and that widespread collaboration is going to be key,

494
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<v Speaker 2>because if this is confirmed, the payoff.

495
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<v Speaker 3>Is immense transformative.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Really, let us get into that payoff. What does success

497
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<v Speaker 2>look like. We have touched on the general relativity aspect,

498
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<v Speaker 2>the Shapiro delay and frame dragging.

499
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<v Speaker 3>Proving Einstein right or wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But the researchers point out another major benefit. They note

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<v Speaker 2>that confirming this pulsar could help us better understand our

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<v Speaker 2>own galaxy as a whole.

503
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, think about stellar demographics, demographics for stars like a census. Exactly,

504
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<v Speaker 3>we do not actually know how many dead stars are

505
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<v Speaker 3>floating around the center of the.

506
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<v Speaker 2>Milky Way because the fog hides them all.

507
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<v Speaker 3>Right, Finding even one verified pulsar gives us a crucial

508
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<v Speaker 3>data point. It tells us about the population density.

509
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<v Speaker 2>If we spot one, there must be others.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Statistics suggest if we found one under these incredibly difficult

511
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<v Speaker 3>viewing conditions, there are probably hundreds or thousands more we

512
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<v Speaker 3>just aren't seeing yet.

513
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<v Speaker 2>So it tells us about the history of star formation

514
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<v Speaker 2>and death and the most extreme part of our galaxy

515
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<v Speaker 2>it does.

516
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<v Speaker 3>It also helps us understand something called dynamic friction near the.

517
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<v Speaker 2>Black hole, which is what exactly.

518
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<v Speaker 3>How these dense star corpses slowly migraine inwards over millions

519
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<v Speaker 3>of years, interacting with the black hole's gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>That is fascinating, and let us zoom out even further

521
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<v Speaker 2>for a second. Astronomy is building some massive new tools

522
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<v Speaker 2>right now, like the SKA.

523
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<v Speaker 3>The square kilometer array.

524
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So how does this discovery tie into those future projects?

525
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<v Speaker 3>The SKA is going to be an absolute game changer

526
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<v Speaker 3>for radio astronomy. It will be orders of magnitude more

527
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<v Speaker 3>sensitive than the Green Bank Telescope.

528
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<v Speaker 2>So finding this single candidate right now is almost like

529
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<v Speaker 2>a scout finding a narrow path through the woods before

530
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<v Speaker 2>the main army arrives.

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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly what it is. It proves that we

532
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<v Speaker 3>can find pulsars in the Galactic center if we look

533
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<v Speaker 3>hard enough and use the right high frequency techniques.

534
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<v Speaker 2>It acts as a proof of concept right.

535
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<v Speaker 3>It justifies the immense time and money needed for the

536
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<v Speaker 3>next generation of searches. If we confirm this one candidate,

537
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<v Speaker 3>it basically guarantees that when the SKA turns on, pointing

538
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<v Speaker 3>it straight at the Galactic center will be priority number one.

539
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<v Speaker 2>It is going to crack the missing pulsar problem wide open.

540
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<v Speaker 3>We might go from zero pulsars to hundreds in a

541
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<v Speaker 3>matter of years.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is amazing when you step back and connect

543
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<v Speaker 2>all the dots of this story. We used the Green

544
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<v Speaker 2>Bank Telescope, which is this massive metal dish sitting in

545
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<v Speaker 2>a quiet valley on Earth, built by human hands.

546
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<v Speaker 3>To detect a tiny, spinning dead star acting as a

547
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<v Speaker 3>perfect cosmic clock, and.

548
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<v Speaker 2>Nature just happened to place that clock right next to

549
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<v Speaker 2>a four million solar mass.

550
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<v Speaker 3>Black hole, so we could test a mathematical theory that

551
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<v Speaker 3>a guy with crazy hair wrote down on a piece

552
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<v Speaker 3>of paper over one hundred years ago.

553
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<v Speaker 2>It connects the unbelievably small and eight millisecond rotation.

554
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<v Speaker 3>To the unbelievably massive four million suns.

555
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<v Speaker 2>And it connects human curiosity to the fundamental fabric of

556
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<v Speaker 2>the universe itself.

557
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<v Speaker 3>It really is a beautiful piece of science.

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<v Speaker 2>So for you listening, what does this all mean at

559
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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, Why should you care about

560
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<v Speaker 2>a ticking star twenty five thousand light years away?

561
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<v Speaker 3>It means we are getting fundamentally closer to understanding gravity.

562
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<v Speaker 2>Gravity is one of those things we just take for granted,

563
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<v Speaker 2>we experience every single day.

564
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<v Speaker 3>It keeps our feet on the ground and our coffee

565
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<v Speaker 3>in our cups. But physicists actually understand very little about

566
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<v Speaker 3>how gravity truly works on extreme scales.

567
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<v Speaker 2>Or how it fits together with quantum mechanics.

568
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<v Speaker 3>Right now, exactly the grand unified theory. We know things

569
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<v Speaker 3>fall down here.

570
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<v Speaker 2>On Earth, but does gravity work the exact same way

571
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<v Speaker 2>near a supermassive black hole as it does in your

572
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<v Speaker 2>living room.

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<v Speaker 3>Einstein says, yes, that is the equivalence principle, but we

574
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<v Speaker 3>have to test it to be sure. This pulsar candidate

575
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<v Speaker 3>gives us the chance to finally check his work in

576
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<v Speaker 3>the most extreme laboratory imaginable.

577
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<v Speaker 2>So to wrap this exploration up, let us just quickly

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<v Speaker 2>recap the key takeaways we have covered.

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<v Speaker 3>First the discovery itself, an eight point one to nine

580
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<v Speaker 3>millisecond pulsar candidate found near Sagittarius, a star by the

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<v Speaker 3>team working with Breakthrough Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Second, the massive potential. If confirmed, it becomes the ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>tool for testing gravity, measuring the curvature of space time,

584
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<v Speaker 2>and detecting the twisting of space called frame dragging.

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<v Speaker 3>And third the current status. It is unconfirmed a candidate,

586
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<v Speaker 3>but the raw data is entirely open to the public,

587
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<v Speaker 3>invite and the whole world to help solve the mystery.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is the ultimate scientific cliffhanger. Is it a

589
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<v Speaker 2>perfectly timed cosmic clock or is it just complex noise?

590
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<v Speaker 3>That is the big question. We just have to wait

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<v Speaker 3>and see.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it makes me think about the nature of

593
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<v Speaker 2>that ticking. Assuming it is real, how so that star

594
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<v Speaker 2>it has been spinning like that for eons. It has

595
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<v Speaker 2>been ticking away in the absolute dark, eight milliseconds at

596
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<v Speaker 2>a time, for millions of.

597
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<v Speaker 3>Years, completely unheard by anyone, unheard.

598
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<v Speaker 2>It was ticking like that when dinosaurs walk the earth.

599
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<v Speaker 2>It was ticking when humans first discovered fire. It was

600
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<v Speaker 2>ticking while we built cities and invented the radio and

601
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<v Speaker 2>launched satellites, just.

602
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<v Speaker 3>Sweeping its beam across the void, over and over.

603
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<v Speaker 2>And it was only just now when we built a

604
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<v Speaker 2>metal ear sensitive enough and an algorithm smart enough that

605
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<v Speaker 2>we finally picked its tiny voice out of the chaos.

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<v Speaker 3>It really makes you wonder what else is ticking out there?

607
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<v Speaker 2>What else is hidden in the noise. The universe is

608
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<v Speaker 2>incredibly loud, but if you listen closely enough, there is

609
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<v Speaker 2>actual order in the chaos.

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<v Speaker 3>We just have to be patient enough to find the

611
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<v Speaker 3>patterns exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's a final thought for you to chew on today.

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<v Speaker 2>The data is public, The confirmation hasn't happened yet.

614
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<v Speaker 3>Anyone could look at it.

615
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<v Speaker 2>Could the person who finally proves Einstein right or wrong

616
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<v Speaker 2>be a student sitting in a dorm room, right, now

617
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<v Speaker 2>just downloading that file out of curiosity.

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<v Speaker 3>It is entirely possible the next Einstein might be the

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<v Speaker 3>one looking at the data from the last Einstein's ultimate test.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep listening and keep looking up.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>That is it for today's show.

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<v Speaker 4>Catch you on the next one.

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<v Speaker 5>The most said the che
