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<v Speaker 1>This is doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to kf

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<v Speaker 1>I AM six forty, the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app KFI AM six forty. You

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<v Speaker 1>have Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Dr

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy Wall Show. Now, I'd like to welcome my Instagram followers.

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<v Speaker 1>How wonderful that you're here on a Sunday night with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing and I'm asking you guys to put in

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<v Speaker 1>a little post of where you're watching from. Hello, Sally

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<v Speaker 1>and Escondido. Good to see you, some locals and then

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<v Speaker 1>people from literally around the world, which is so cool

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<v Speaker 1>about social media. It's one of the things I like.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you'd like to give me a call, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the time where I will be answering your relationship questions.

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<v Speaker 1>The number is one eight hundred five two zero one

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<v Speaker 1>five three four Okay, Producer Kayla, who do we have? First?

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<v Speaker 2>We have Ian with a question.

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<v Speaker 1>Ian. Hello, Ian, It's doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Doctor Wendy, thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an accountant here and I just moved to southern

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<v Speaker 4>California and then oh shoot, I got a client here.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me call you back, I have this question.

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<v Speaker 2>After wall Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I just for those who didn't hear that on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I'm an accountant here. I just moved to

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<v Speaker 1>southern California. Oh no, I have a client on the

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<v Speaker 1>other line. I gotta go, I go.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So he was saying he's twenty three years old,

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<v Speaker 6>he's not to California, and he says all of his

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<v Speaker 6>friends are single and they have no desire to get married,

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<v Speaker 6>and he wants to know if that's a Southern California thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh why all of his friends that he's meeting out

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<v Speaker 6>here are just not interested in relationships or marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you what the research says. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a twenty three year old who just moved to

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<v Speaker 1>LA and finds that none of his friends are interested

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<v Speaker 1>at all in getting married. So what we know is

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<v Speaker 1>that in rural areas people are much more likely culturally

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<v Speaker 1>to marry earlier or have children earlier. But when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in an urban center or the higher your education, the

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<v Speaker 1>more people delay marriage. Now, what I'm concerned about is

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<v Speaker 1>the way that Ian is probably concerned about too. The

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<v Speaker 1>way you train for monogamy isn't through becoming a player right.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't train through being really promiscuous. You train by being monogamous. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing is that you've got to start

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<v Speaker 1>off at least having a solid relationship and have a

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<v Speaker 1>practice marriage if you will in that sense. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>see there's even a viewer here from Meta Yane, Columbia. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>so far away. Let me know where you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>watching from. That's really cool to see. So, Ian, don't

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<v Speaker 1>listen to your friends. Even though relationship habits are highly

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<v Speaker 1>contagious among social groups, don't listen to your friends. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want a girlfriend, you will find plenty of women

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<v Speaker 1>who want exclusivity and a good, healthy relationship. So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for calling. I hope you listen to that.

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<v Speaker 7>Ian.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, who do we have next, Producer Kleb, We

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<v Speaker 1>have Paul with the question, Paul, we got the guys

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<v Speaker 1>calling today. Hi, Paul, it's doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 5>So.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just just got off of work and I

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<v Speaker 3>was sitting in my car listening to you and you

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<v Speaker 3>said there are some things that make people undtable, uh huh,

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<v Speaker 3>which are really struck, really struck a chord with me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, I've never heard that before. Oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>curious of what you think that is because I'm single.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I can only tell you what my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that made me undateable were when I

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<v Speaker 1>had my first date with Julio, and they were that

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<v Speaker 1>both my parents were dead at my age, so he

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<v Speaker 1>might not have much time with me. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing. And the second that I still had a

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<v Speaker 1>kid in the nest and she was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the nest a while, and that is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>for some men don't want to take on a single

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<v Speaker 1>mother who still got a kid in the house. His

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever watched our proposal on live radio, was

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<v Speaker 1>that he experienced incarceration at a point of his life

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was a very shameful thing and it

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<v Speaker 1>was hard for him to tell the story. But Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's got their thing that they feel shame about, and

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<v Speaker 1>they think, does someone want to take this on? Because

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<v Speaker 1>you see, we all have a kind of mate status, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has to do with age and income and

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<v Speaker 1>looks and education and all kinds of things. And there

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<v Speaker 1>is somebody for everybody. But it's important that we understand

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<v Speaker 1>where we land on the scale. And when I was

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<v Speaker 1>on the dating apps and I would these guys were

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<v Speaker 1>not answering the text quick enough, I'd be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's out of my league. Moving on, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get somebody who's a good match for me. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like there's one thing that makes somebody undtable. It's

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<v Speaker 1>what our culture perceives as shameful. And if people are

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<v Speaker 1>shooting out of their league, does that help at all?

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<v Speaker 1>I do? If that makes sense?

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<v Speaker 2>I tried.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, producer, Kayla, who do we have next?

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<v Speaker 2>We have Jeremy with the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy, Hi, Jeremy, it's doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 8>Hello, doctor Wendy. How are you good?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your question?

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<v Speaker 8>So? My question is I've had a long stint of

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<v Speaker 8>kind of a I'll just say it. I've had a

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<v Speaker 8>bit of a crazy life in my twenties. I dropped

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<v Speaker 8>out of college twice, and for about two years I

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<v Speaker 8>back in with my parents. And now I'm sorry to

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<v Speaker 8>my own for the first time. So at iratulation nine,

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<v Speaker 8>how yeah, I know, at age twenty nine, how do

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<v Speaker 8>I explain having such a crazy backstory to a potential

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<v Speaker 8>first date, like, how do I, how do I? How

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<v Speaker 8>do I mix that in and without sounding like a

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<v Speaker 8>complete trade wreck.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, I don't think anybody's a train wreck,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when they're growing and moving on and have accomplished

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you seem to have accomplished in life.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the important thing is at the very beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of dating, like on the first date, it's all fantasy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is not the time to trauma dump, is

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<v Speaker 1>not the time to open up and bleed in front

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<v Speaker 1>of somebody. It's going to be done as you're gaining

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<v Speaker 1>their trust in the first few or four or five

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<v Speaker 1>or six dates. Now, Julio and I were completely an

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<v Speaker 1>anomaly because I asked that question on the first date.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me why you're undtable, right? But for other people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's shame involved. They're worried about judgment. And

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<v Speaker 1>and compassionate, but for others it might take some time.

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<v Speaker 1>So just bit by bit by bit, and also focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the positive. Instead of saying I had this horrible

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<v Speaker 1>I was forced to learn some really valuable lessons and

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<v Speaker 1>I learned them experientially till I could get to the

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<v Speaker 1>place that I'm at now. Thank you for calling Jeremy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, producer Kayla. Who else do we have there?

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<v Speaker 2>Another fellow? We have Eduardo?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the night for men. Hello, Eduardo, it's doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, doctor Wendy. Well, I'm about to get some money

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<v Speaker 4>from my twenty year job at Blue Cross. I relocated

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<v Speaker 4>from Chicago in twenty twenty three over here in Tampa,

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<v Speaker 4>and I took Kyla. So I'm not somebody who's into

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<v Speaker 4>social media. I actually been checking out e Harmony, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's been invaded by AI. So I think, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I think all.

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<v Speaker 1>The dating apps do use a little bit of AI

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<v Speaker 1>and how they're especially with their algorithm.

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<v Speaker 4>There no exception. Okay, what are your recommendations as far

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<v Speaker 4>as meeting I'm in my early picties, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>meeting people outside the social media you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean outside of dating apps? Okay, so definitely you want

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<v Speaker 1>to join groups, right, So there's not like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you're going to be, you know, kind of creepy

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<v Speaker 1>and walking up to people in the vegetable aisle and

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<v Speaker 1>say how about those cucumbers? Right? Edward, Are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to join whatever group interests you, whether whether it's volunteering

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<v Speaker 1>learning a new hobby or new skill. And try to

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<v Speaker 1>pick a group that women might be attracted to, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's book groups, gardening groups, wine tasting groups, cooking classes,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. I think you know because I was always

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<v Speaker 1>saying to women, like women, if you're trying to meet men,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing. Go into all those yoga classes.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to a hockey game. They are all there, every

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, right. Go take lessons at a driving range.

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<v Speaker 1>They're standing there at the golf course. So ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>where are the women? I have a fun one for you, Eduardo.

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<v Speaker 1>I have gone on a number of breast cancer walks,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are some smarty pants guys who go on those.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally they're walking for two hours, talking to hundreds of women,

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<v Speaker 1>all for a good cause, and all the women see

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<v Speaker 1>is a wonderful, compassionate guy who's fit and walking. So

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend, excuse me, that gentlemen go on breast

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<v Speaker 1>cancer walks. Thanks for calling, Eduardo, All right, do we

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody else or should I go to social media. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me go to the DMS if you would like

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<v Speaker 1>to call the numbers one eight hundred five two zero

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<v Speaker 1>one five three four. I do want to say to

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<v Speaker 1>my Instagram viewers that you can't hear both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. I try to repeat the question if I can.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you download the iHeartRadio app, search doctor Wendy

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<v Speaker 1>Walsh or KFI, you will find it. Okay, Dear doctor Wendy,

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<v Speaker 1>I have two questions. First is how do you deal

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<v Speaker 1>with extremely toxic co workers that unfortunately will work the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same shift and the managers do nothing. Oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry about that. That's question one. Question two. My hobby

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been married for seventeen years. We built a

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<v Speaker 1>life together, kid's house. We've been on and off in therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like we just don't get along and

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason we stay together is because either of

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<v Speaker 1>us cannot afford to go separate ways. It seems that

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<v Speaker 1>the only time we communicate is to argue or disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with each other. Okay, well, those are two big problems. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like these questions. By these two questions, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of negative energy in your life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do want to say this gently and with love.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when we notice a lot of negative energy at home,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, it sometimes could be projection is that we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done the work to feel happy inside ourselves and

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<v Speaker 1>so therefore we're like, oh, those coworkers are toxic, My

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<v Speaker 1>husband is awful, right, because we're projecting our awful feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to remind everybody out there that relationships don't

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<v Speaker 1>make you happy, and the job of a relationship is

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<v Speaker 1>not to make you happy. You know what relationships do?

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<v Speaker 1>They make you whole, but happy people have happy relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationships are a gymnasium for your mind. You can't go

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<v Speaker 1>to a gym and look at the equipment and hope

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get in shape. You got to get

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<v Speaker 1>in there now. A friend who's a marriage and family

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Hi, market's doctor Wendy. Yeah, Hi, Hi, what's your question? Love?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, the dating at work is not the problem. It's

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<v Speaker 1>What's your question? What's your question?

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<v Speaker 5>How to meet like some decent women like church church

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<v Speaker 5>still a good idea, or.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, what happens is when we don't feel good

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<v Speaker 1>relationships don't make you happy, but happy people have happy relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you luck. I think it's a great idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you're taking a break because it's important to like

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<v Speaker 1>dating apps. They could really be helpful. All right, let

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<v Speaker 1>me go to the dms on social media. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Walsh h Dear docgher Wendy, I'm going on my third

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<v Speaker 1>date with a guy who congratulations, he told me I

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<v Speaker 1>but no right by the third date. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I usually say. So I used to say,

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<v Speaker 1>little lady, it's on me. You know the name I

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the show and he texted me it's Ali

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Moving along, Dear doctor Wendy. I met a

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<v Speaker 1>on a first date with him? Okay, I'm really confused here.

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<v Speaker 1>You met him, so it sounds like you've met him

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the real world, hit it off, then later

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<v Speaker 1>in the night, not with him, like on your own,

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<v Speaker 1>you just stomach went. You know what, Listen to your stomach, girly.

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<v Speaker 1>And once you started to relax and you're falling asleep

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, it doesn't feel right. Yeah, don't go

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<v Speaker 1>Dear doctor Wendy. I am a words of affirmation person.

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<v Speaker 1>I expressed love fearlessly. My girlfriend expresses herself through action.

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<v Speaker 1>Her actions say she loves me, but she never verbalizes it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want words. I understand it isn't natural to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I cope or do I talk to her? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to me. You know why you love fearlessly? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know why you use all those words? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly, but I will tell you this. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>these guys, would fall in love, and I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the first one to go, I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>loves me? Because I was in love with longing? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know how you create a loss, a feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>and so then you get your model for love, which

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm doing the chasing and they're not. You admit

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<v Speaker 1>she loves with her actions. Then if okay, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to say the whole love language is thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been studied and try to be replicated and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. It's not true. But more important than what

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<v Speaker 1>love language do you speak? What love language do you hear?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you understand? You clearly understand that she's expressing

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<v Speaker 1>herself through her actions, and so that should be good

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<v Speaker 1>enough for you. I think you're in love with Longing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say that only because I was that

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<v Speaker 1>way once. All right, are we near the end already?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Time flies when we're having fun. A producer Kayla, this

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, I want to talk about anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Show on KFI AM six forty are live everywhere

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<v Speaker 9>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 9>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Dr Wendy Wall Show on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App. I

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<v Speaker 1>our worries, all our anxiety. She is local Los Angeles based,

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<v Speaker 1>board certified clinical psychologist, doctor Jenny Yip. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you so much for having me here. Now. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know if I can cure anxiety. I can certainly

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<v Speaker 7>give some helpful tips.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have spent your life thinking about anxiety, writing

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<v Speaker 1>many books about anxiety. Let's talk about what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the world right now. I feel like we're in

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, if you think about it, we are so

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<v Speaker 7>of people we feel like we're connected through social media

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<v Speaker 7>We really don't have a way to reach out, and

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<v Speaker 7>especially the young folks because they grew up in this

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<v Speaker 7>actually what's creating a lot of anxiety that we're experiencing today.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I hear you singing my song that relationships are

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<v Speaker 1>paramount to our mental health?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely? I mean, if we look at all of the

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<v Speaker 7>research that exists, your support system is the number one

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<v Speaker 7>buffer to so many mental health needs. So, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>Before, we need each other, We need closeness, we need intimacy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this morning, my husband and I were out

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yes, I mean think about it. How many times

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<v Speaker 7>a nicer dinner without your kids throwing forks at each other?

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<v Speaker 7>way to describe it. So, if we're all so disconnected,

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<v Speaker 7>we don't have the social support, or the family support,

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<v Speaker 7>or the tension that we crave as human beings, then

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<v Speaker 7>how are we to feel confident in ourselves? How are

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<v Speaker 7>we able to meet the challenges in life where once

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<v Speaker 7>upon a time we relied on each other?

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<v Speaker 1>So we pose and we can pretend confidence. Now, there

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<v Speaker 1>are lots of different kinds of anxiety, or shall we

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<v Speaker 1>say anxiety shows up in different ways, right, Some people

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<v Speaker 1>have obsessive, compulsive, repetitive behaviors to try to am I

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<v Speaker 1>correct in sing to try to quell that anxiety. Others, Sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>my students are always interested when I teach intro to

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<v Speaker 1>psychologists too. They're always interested to hear about body harming anxiety. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the pickers, the hair polars, the nail biters, the cutters

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<v Speaker 1>and people that are. But what is the most common

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<v Speaker 1>display of anxiety that you see in your practice?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, my practice at the Renewed Freedom Center, we work

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<v Speaker 7>mostly with obsessive compulsive disorders and related anxiety, and that

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<v Speaker 7>means that it could come across social anxiety, which we

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<v Speaker 7>see so much today, especially in our young young adults

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<v Speaker 7>as well as adolescents, or separation anxiety and kids because

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<v Speaker 7>they feel like they need mommy and daddy or they

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<v Speaker 7>won't survive without mommy and daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they're also missing the entire tribe that we used

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<v Speaker 1>to have generation to go and mommy and daddy is

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<v Speaker 1>all they got.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, exactly, So there's that lack of confidence in themselves.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think at the culprit of all anxiety disorders,

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<v Speaker 7>it's a lack of confidence, a lack of confidence to

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<v Speaker 7>deal with life's challenges, a feeling of uncertainty of not

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<v Speaker 7>knowing how, when, where, whom, what, and you then just

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<v Speaker 7>feel stuck. And of course when we're in that fight

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<v Speaker 7>or flight fear mode, most of us are just going

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<v Speaker 7>to go into avoidance. Unfortunately, when we are avoiding, whether

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<v Speaker 7>we're avoiding social interactions or we're avoiding being out without

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<v Speaker 7>mommy and daddy, or we're avoiding no contamination. As an OCD,

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<v Speaker 7>it doesn't give us the corrective experience to tolerate whatever

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<v Speaker 7>the triggers are, to our discomfort level, to our fear,

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<v Speaker 7>to our avoidances, and therefore it's only going to reinforce

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<v Speaker 7>our fears.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we need a little exposure. And so you yourself

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<v Speaker 1>have suffered from anxiety in the past, is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons I understand you got into this end of

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<v Speaker 1>the business.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yes, I experienced OCD from the age of four.

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<v Speaker 7>In fact, it's actually it's actually quite common in my family.

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<v Speaker 7>My dad had OCD, his mother had OCD.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a genetic piece, absolutely absolutely no.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you know, like what we're discovering with a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of mental health conditions, there's a genetic component into it. However,

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<v Speaker 7>just because you have the genetic predisposition doesn't necessarily mean

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<v Speaker 7>that the genes will turn on, right. You also need

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<v Speaker 7>environmental experiences to either support or correct those genes.

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<v Speaker 1>So in my.

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<v Speaker 7>Situation, my environmental experiences supported the genes.

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<v Speaker 1>To turn on.

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<v Speaker 7>So I experienced OCD since age four, and unfortunately, back

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<v Speaker 7>in the seventies and eighties, nobody knew what was wrong

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<v Speaker 7>with me, right, And it wasn't until I was in

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<v Speaker 7>college that one of my professors pointed out to me

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<v Speaker 7>that I might have OCD because I was writing and

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<v Speaker 7>rewriting and rewriting so that I could have it be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Oh, those students who make their papers so perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>they are a joy. But you do wonder. Oh, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so funny because I always say it's always the

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<v Speaker 1>A plus students who want the private meeting with me

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<v Speaker 1>to find out how they can get it right.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's the academic anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>I right, the C student need to come to my office.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Developed a specific way of treating anxiety. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to give our listeners some news they can use when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back. Can you hang on for another segment?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>All right. My guest is doctor Jenny Yip Yep, just

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<v Speaker 1>like it sounds yip. She's a Board certified clinical psychologist.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Doctor wendywall Show on KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 9>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 9>AM six forty Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>To the calm stretch of the Doctor Wendywall Show on

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<v Speaker 1>k I am six forty. My guest doctor Jenny Yip

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<v Speaker 1>is a Board certified clinical psychologist, an author, a speaker

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<v Speaker 1>who has written a lot about anxiety. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>remiss if I did not mention your latest book called

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Baby, Goodbye, Intrusive thoughts how moms can stop the

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<v Speaker 1>spiral of anxiety and OCD to be well during motherhood.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that is love, the labor of love that I

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<v Speaker 7>have devoted the last few years of my life too.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you a funny story during my

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<v Speaker 1>two pregnancies. Well, I learned with the first one. Anytime

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<v Speaker 1>I read about and like I was reading all the

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<v Speaker 1>biology books and all the symptoms and all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that could happen to you, if I read about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it. It was guaranteed. So I stopped reading

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<v Speaker 1>about all the things that could happen during pregnancy. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk specifically about the way that you treat anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>And you talk about something called the strategic family boundaries model.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we all need boundaries in our lives, and a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of problems in our family relationships are creative because

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<v Speaker 7>we don't have healthy boundaries. And if we're thinking about

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<v Speaker 7>anxiety per se, you know, as a parent or as

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<v Speaker 7>a loved one, you can either be supporting your loved

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<v Speaker 7>one or enabling the unhealthy behaviors.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is where.

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<v Speaker 7>Boundaries come into play and boundaries. I know, it's so

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<v Speaker 7>overdone and so oversaid. However, many people don't consider the

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<v Speaker 7>different types of boundaries that exists. So not only are

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<v Speaker 7>we talking about physical boundaries, we're talking about emotional boundaries.

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<v Speaker 7>We're talking about mental boundaries, We're talking about logistical boundaries.

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<v Speaker 7>And when we think about boundaries, it's not just boundaries

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<v Speaker 7>with other people, it's also boundaries with ourselves. How do

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<v Speaker 7>we relate to ourselves? Do we live our lives according

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<v Speaker 7>to the values that that aligns with our lives, and

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<v Speaker 7>then are we intentionally setting those boundaries to reinforce those

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<v Speaker 7>values so that we can live meaningfully, We can engage meaningfully,

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<v Speaker 7>we can have dialogues and interactions with our families and

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<v Speaker 7>loved ones in a meaningful way. And in order to

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<v Speaker 7>do that, we have to be very aware and conscientious

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<v Speaker 7>of what our values are and what are the boundaries

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<v Speaker 7>that are necessary to protect those values in our relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you seeing that there are too many families

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<v Speaker 1>in America that are too enmeshed? Oh my, really, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>can remember whose problem is who?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh? Yes, exactly. And this book that I wrote was

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<v Speaker 7>specifically tailored for new moms because as a new mom,

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<v Speaker 7>we feel like we have to live up to societal

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<v Speaker 7>expectations to be this superhero mom, and then we let

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<v Speaker 7>all of what we hear and see and read basically

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<v Speaker 7>harass us. And these are the mental boundaries that we're

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<v Speaker 7>not establishing.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, there are a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 1>our world that pathologize motherhood, and we are criticized at

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<v Speaker 1>every corner trying to be a good parent.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I mean, even if we're thinking about Freud, Freud

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<v Speaker 7>initially said, OHCD was because of anal retentive mother. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>come on, right, I mean, where can we not be

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<v Speaker 7>blamed for all that happens in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>So to have.

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<v Speaker 7>Well meaning motherhood wellness, you have to know what your

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<v Speaker 7>roles are, what your expectations are, or not just of yourself,

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<v Speaker 7>of other people as well of your family members. And

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<v Speaker 7>to protect your wellness as well as your family's wellness,

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<v Speaker 7>you have to be able to role model healthy boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you saying that largely the I'll use my

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<v Speaker 1>own word, an epidemic of anxiety that we're seeing is

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<v Speaker 1>partly because people aren't allowed emotional autonomy to have their

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<v Speaker 1>own feelings. They're supposed to have the feelings of the

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<v Speaker 1>other family members.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, no, people are allowed. They just don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're allowed to.

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<v Speaker 7>Have your own emotions right, without influence from anyone, especially

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<v Speaker 7>social media. We're going back to social media again, and

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<v Speaker 7>you have to also allow your family members and your

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<v Speaker 7>loved ones to have their own emotional experiences without your influence.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean that's where boundaries lie, right. It's your respect

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<v Speaker 7>and your ability to tolerate and honor other people's emotions

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<v Speaker 7>and expecting other people to honor and respect your emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also not responsible for other people's emmissions, like we

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<v Speaker 1>don't make people feel you know. My favorite line I

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<v Speaker 1>use with friends who will say, well, when they have

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<v Speaker 1>weak boundaries, they're like, well, I can't say no, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go because I don't want to hurt their feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll say, you know what, sometimes they need to

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<v Speaker 1>get the gift of pain. Absolutely, yes, A little gift

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<v Speaker 1>of pain, like I'm sorry, I can't, I'm overextended. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say no.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, especially with children, right, I think as parents we

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<v Speaker 7>do too much to protecting our children's so that they

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<v Speaker 7>can feel happy all the time. Except that's not realistic.

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<v Speaker 7>In life. Life comes with challenges, and it's important for

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<v Speaker 7>children to experience a little bit of disappointment, a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit of discomfort, a little bit of pain, because then

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<v Speaker 7>they learn how to deal with it when they become adults,

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<v Speaker 7>and it builds their resiliency to be able to manage

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<v Speaker 7>real life's challenges. Because one day, the truth is, and

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<v Speaker 7>I tell every mother that I work with this same thing,

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<v Speaker 7>You're going to die, oh man, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to live without yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>And when you do die, hopefully not anytime soon. Are

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<v Speaker 7>your children ready to be on their own? Will they

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<v Speaker 7>have the skills to manage the challenges that naturally come

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<v Speaker 7>with life or will they be completely lost and uh

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<v Speaker 7>not have the confidence to deal with it?

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<v Speaker 1>And plenty of them in their late twenties and even

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<v Speaker 1>thirties are moving back yet oh oh yes. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a serious thing that gets expensive. It really cuts

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<v Speaker 1>into the retirement folks. Just want to say, Jenny, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure to meet you. I want to remind everybody

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<v Speaker 1>they can find the book anywhere, I'm sure, but google it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello baby, it's called Goodbye Intrusive Thoughts, Stop the Spiral

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<v Speaker 1>of Anxiety and OCD to reclaim wellness on your motherhood journey.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have many other books on anxiety that people

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<v Speaker 1>can get no matter what stage of life, Doctor Jenny Yip,

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<v Speaker 1>Google Heart.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you have a.

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<v Speaker 7>Website, doctor Jenny Dear It's doctor yip dot com. Doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>How much easier could it be? Doctor Yip? If you

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<v Speaker 1>suffer from anxiety, don't wait any longer. Okay, get help,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's doctor Jenny, whether it's another licensed clinical therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>You owe it to yourself to release yourself from the

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<v Speaker 1>pain you're experiencing. Thank you for being with us. So

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be here, Thank you. Thank you to my listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty twenty five, right, okay, damp January, dry January.

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<v Speaker 1>You figure it out.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, you know you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm here every Sunday for you from seven to

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<v Speaker 1>nine pm. Thanks so much for being with us. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been listening to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. See

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<v Speaker 1>you next week. You've been listening to Doctor Wendy Walls.

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<v Speaker 1>You can always hear us live on KFI Am six

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<v Speaker 1>forty from seven to nine pm on Sunday and anytime

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<v Speaker 1>on demand on the iHeartRadio app
