Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, well, look, all of us know that breakups
Speaker 2: are tough. Breakups are tough people who have gone through
Speaker 2: either a divorce or they have gone through a a friendship,
Speaker 2: whether it's a you know, a friendship with someone that
Speaker 2: that involves romance or a friendship that is simply one
Speaker 2: based on friendship, and all of a sudden you find
Speaker 2: out that that other person was not the person you expected. Well,
Speaker 2: we see that going on in Washington right now, and
Speaker 2: we know that President Trump has been pretty clear that
Speaker 2: something happened between President Trump and Elon Musk in the
Speaker 2: last few days because just the week of go so
Speaker 2: they seem to be bff's for life. But that doesn't
Speaker 2: seem to be the situation. Now, let's let me start
Speaker 2: with a comment the President made. Now there's been a
Speaker 2: lot of comments made on Twitter or you know, different
Speaker 2: you know, different websites, But this is the President yesterday
Speaker 2: speaking about his friendship and how stundy is that that
Speaker 2: it has all seemed to have dissipated within the last
Speaker 2: few days. This is cut number one. Please, Rob, I've always.
Speaker 3: Liked Elon and it's a very surprised. You saw the
Speaker 3: words he had for me, the words and as I said,
Speaker 3: anything about me that's bad. I'd rather have him criticized
Speaker 3: me than the bill, because the bill is incredible. It's
Speaker 3: the biggest cut in the history of our country. We've
Speaker 3: never cut It's about one point six trillion and cuts.
Speaker 3: It's the biggest tax cut. Uh tax You would say, uh, people,
Speaker 3: people's taxes will go way down, but it's the biggest
Speaker 3: tax cut in history.
Speaker 2: It's we have.
Speaker 3: We are doing things in that bill that are unbelievable.
Speaker 3: And when you look at what we're doing for small businesses,
Speaker 3: for people, for middle income people, all of the things
Speaker 3: that we're doing, nobody has ever seen.
Speaker 2: Anything like it. I think the President likes his big,
Speaker 2: beautiful bill. I think there's no question about it. He's
Speaker 2: he's not having any any second second doubts about the bill.
Speaker 2: But obviously Elon Musk did, and and Musk said, we
Speaker 2: don't have as much sound of Elon Musk. He calls
Speaker 2: the bill a disgusting abomination. So it appears that this,
Speaker 2: this this breakup, this this romance that has ended, revolves
Speaker 2: around uh A view of the bill. Now, I don't
Speaker 2: know if Elon Musk has just read the bill recently
Speaker 2: or didn't realize there was in it. Now the President implied,
Speaker 2: did a little bit more actually than implied that maybe
Speaker 2: Elon had a reason now that again, I think Elon
Speaker 2: should have known what was in the bill. This has
Speaker 2: cut number one a rob please.
Speaker 3: And you know Elon's upset because we took the ev
Speaker 3: mandate and you know, which was a lot of money
Speaker 3: for electric vehicles and you know, they having a hard
Speaker 3: time the electric vehicles, and they want us to pay
Speaker 3: billions of dollars in subsidy. And you know, I Elon
Speaker 3: knew this from the beginning. He knew it for a
Speaker 3: long time ago. That's been in there, that's been I
Speaker 3: would say, JD. That hasn't changed. That's been right for
Speaker 3: the beginning. Mister I think, mister Secretary, that hasn't changed
Speaker 3: it right from the beginning.
Speaker 2: But I know that it dissurved him. He wanted and rightfully,
Speaker 2: you know he So that might be one cause it's
Speaker 2: got even nastier. Yesterday, Elon Musk sent out a tweet
Speaker 2: that talked about the fact that maybe President Trump somehow
Speaker 2: is going to get mixed up in the Jeffrey Epstein investigation,
Speaker 2: and he said that there's some items that have not
Speaker 2: been released. So this is a this is a bitter breakup, folks.
Speaker 2: There's just no way to describe it. This is not
Speaker 2: two star cross lovers deciding that it was better that
Speaker 2: they would go, you know, their separate ways, and and
Speaker 2: and everybody thinking well of the other person, and no
Speaker 2: blame going back and forth. But there's a lot of
Speaker 2: blame going back and forth here in both directions, that's
Speaker 2: for sure. And they did the media was reporting I
Speaker 2: think accurately that had kind of cooled down a little
Speaker 2: bit today, but I think it could. I think it
Speaker 2: could happen. It could fire back up at any time.
Speaker 2: My question is going to be pretty simple, Okay, I
Speaker 2: don't want to over complicate this. This this seemed to
Speaker 2: be a match made in heaven. Uh. Donald Trump got
Speaker 2: a lot of support financially from in the campaign from
Speaker 2: Elon Musk. He says he didn't need that to win.
Speaker 2: He said that he he would have won anyway. Elon
Speaker 2: Musk is convinced that without his financial support, Uh, it
Speaker 2: would be President Harris and not not President Trump. And
Speaker 2: we'll never know. They have each they've dug their heels in.
Speaker 2: So I want to open it up and give you
Speaker 2: an opportunity. Who do you blame here, Elon Musk or
Speaker 2: President Trump six one, seven, two, five four ten thirty
Speaker 2: six one seven nine three one ten thirty Uh and
Speaker 2: if you if you felt all along that this was
Speaker 2: destined not to last. I mean, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: it's just to show apparently how how hurt President Trump
Speaker 2: is on this.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: He is a inherently said and sources close to him
Speaker 2: have said that that beautiful new Tesla that he purchased
Speaker 2: I think at full price from from from Tesla from
Speaker 2: Elon Musk back in March is now he's either gonna
Speaker 2: give it away or sell it now again, A seventy
Speaker 2: thousand dollars investment for President Trump is not a lot
Speaker 2: of money, let's be let's be honest. But it's still
Speaker 2: it's a nice car. But he's disassociating himself not only
Speaker 2: from Elon Musk, now from the Tesla automobile. So there
Speaker 2: is some underlying bitterness here. This is this is this
Speaker 2: is a story that that the the final paragraphs have
Speaker 2: not been written, and maybe you can fill some of
Speaker 2: those in for US tonight or night's side. It's a
Speaker 2: Friday night. Let's have a little bit fun with this.
Speaker 2: Six one seven, six one, seven, nine three one ten thirty. Look,
Speaker 2: it was just last week, I think, or even earlier
Speaker 2: this week, that the President gave Elon Musk a golden
Speaker 2: key to the White House. There aren't many golden keys
Speaker 2: to the White House, and Elon, I assume, hasn't given
Speaker 2: that key back. This I'd love to hear from you,
Speaker 2: whether you are set about this or you're delighted by it.
Speaker 2: Six months seven two five four to ten thirty six
Speaker 2: months seven nine three one ten thirty. I also do
Speaker 2: want to mention a news story that has broken in
Speaker 2: the last well last two or three hours. The Maryland
Speaker 2: man described as Maryland man, you've heard him, kilmar Abrego
Speaker 2: Garcia is now back in the US. Not under the
Speaker 2: circumstances that he or his supporters had hoped for. He's
Speaker 2: back here on the US under indictment on human smuggling charges.
Speaker 2: And we have some sound which we will play a
Speaker 2: little bit later on in this hour from the Attorney
Speaker 2: General UH Pam Bondi, who announced not only his return
Speaker 2: but also UH this indictment. So Uh, you know, anywhere
Speaker 2: would be better than being in that Seacard prison. I'm
Speaker 2: sure nol Salvador, but uh, this this is a very
Speaker 2: interesting twist, uh in a story that well in March
Speaker 2: dominated the news. It was on at least ABC and
Speaker 2: NBC tonight, not the lead story, but prominently displayed. We'll
Speaker 2: be back on nightside. Phone calls coming up on the
Speaker 2: other on the other side of the break.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we are going to go to the phones.
Speaker 2: We're talking initially this hour about the breakup between President
Speaker 2: Trump and his what what appeared to be his BFF
Speaker 2: for life, Elon Musk. Let me go to Tom and
Speaker 2: Brock and see what Tom has to think about this.
Speaker 2: This uh, this situation. Tom, you were next on Nights
Speaker 2: First is tonight? Go right ahead, Tom.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I understand the perspective of raising the debt settling
Speaker 5: by five trillion dollars. That's totally irresponsible. And I also
Speaker 5: understand that there's reconciliation that if it goes back, that's
Speaker 5: not going to work out the Trump's favor. I understand that,
Speaker 5: But Elon Russ Musk reminds me of the average voter
Speaker 5: in many districts in this country that my congressman's great
Speaker 5: because he brings home the bacon. It's everybody else's congressman
Speaker 5: that sucks. Okay that you know, I hate to use
Speaker 5: the Boston accent that way, but I heard that.
Speaker 2: Just an accent that bothered me. By the way ahead,
Speaker 2: go ahead, Tom.
Speaker 5: All right, but yeah, you know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 5: You know, we had this discussion thirty years ago during
Speaker 5: Bill Clinton's first administration, and you know, I will give credit.
Speaker 5: I don't think Bill Clinton was a great present, but
Speaker 5: I will give him credit for raising taxes back then,
Speaker 5: which hurt, which actually hurt blue collar guys like me. However,
Speaker 5: when the Republicans took over in ninety four, there were
Speaker 5: massive cuts all throughout the federal government. And during the
Speaker 5: Clinton administration we had budget surpluses and we have not
Speaker 5: had them since he was in office. And I have
Speaker 5: to be honest. Now as far as the broman.
Speaker 2: You're not only being honest, but you're being accurate as well,
Speaker 2: which is even more important.
Speaker 5: Yes, Now, as far as the bromance, Okay, Elon Musk
Speaker 5: is coming off like a spoiled brat. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: not against electric cars, I'm not against stolar energy or
Speaker 5: wind energy, but it is hugely subsidized. And if it's
Speaker 5: if it's that great, if it's that great, then why
Speaker 5: isn't it working where people can just go out and
Speaker 5: buy solar panels for their roofs along with an inverter.
Speaker 5: And it's true, you know, without any kind of government,
Speaker 5: state or federal subsidies, that it's actually going to save
Speaker 5: them money with the initial investment. And that is just
Speaker 5: not the case. And I don't want someone to pee
Speaker 5: on my leg and tell me it's raining, all.
Speaker 2: Right, I think, Tom, you know, you've been very clear.
Speaker 2: You've spoken for two and a half minutes, and you
Speaker 2: have I think summarized the Trump situation perfectly. So I
Speaker 2: don't know if you want to add anything else but
Speaker 2: excluded me.
Speaker 5: The Republicans. The Republicans need to pass this budget. They
Speaker 5: need to pass his agenda, Okay, And hopefully, and this
Speaker 5: is the crap shoot, Hopefully the economy booms under Trump's
Speaker 5: tax cuts as well as cuts the businesses and deregulation,
Speaker 5: and we get more revenue coming into the federal coffers
Speaker 5: than we've ever had before. But if it's the old
Speaker 5: you know, Walter Mondale, tax the rich and give to
Speaker 5: the poor, that's not gonna work anymore. Anyway, take care
Speaker 5: of da.
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you soon, Thank you very much. Let
Speaker 2: me go to Dave in Wareham down on the Cape. Dave,
Speaker 2: welcome next to nightside.
Speaker 6: Oh, good evening, Dan.
Speaker 7: How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I hope you are as well. What's
Speaker 2: your taking all of this, Dave?
Speaker 6: Go right ahead.
Speaker 8: Well, I thought last time I talked to you, it
Speaker 8: was the time where the train station the goggle thing
Speaker 8: came down and people were stuck in the middle something
Speaker 8: they just man, and I was.
Speaker 5: Saying, just plow through it, my good and you were.
Speaker 6: Saying, hey, all right, David, I can a guy.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, welcome back. What's your thought on this? Okay?
Speaker 5: My thought on this is I'm gonna just all this
Speaker 5: at you and go to bed.
Speaker 2: Go to bed after midnight, Dave, I want you to yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, go ahead, all right, Well we have some
Speaker 2: good exchange here. I want to head you get to
Speaker 2: the meat of the manor go for it.
Speaker 5: Okay, here comes the meat, all right, And and I'm
Speaker 5: gonna believe this, you know, and sure we got everything
Speaker 5: going this that you know, Musk, Musk and Trump very
Speaker 5: very intelligent people, okay. And what is happening really is
Speaker 5: is something we're missing, Hi, we're forgetting. Everybody's after that car.
Speaker 5: They're trying to destroy that car, all right. So Musk
Speaker 5: and Trump must have got together and talked and said,
Speaker 5: we got to put on a charade.
Speaker 8: This is a charade.
Speaker 5: Okay, I gotta say that you hate me.
Speaker 2: And I hate expect David's a little bit more of
Speaker 2: a of a charade. Must let me just give me
Speaker 2: a second, give me a little oxygen here, Okay, uh?
Speaker 2: When when must that's talking about Trump being involved in
Speaker 2: some form or fashion with the the the Epstein situation.
Speaker 2: That's a little more charade in my opinion. But that's okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not trying to dispute you. I'm just
Speaker 2: telling you that that that that's that's pretty nasty stuff.
Speaker 2: If it's whether it's if it's true or not the
Speaker 2: way right.
Speaker 5: But that's all that's already been out there, so they
Speaker 5: might they want to use that and anything that he
Speaker 5: can come up with to protect that car, all right,
Speaker 5: And that business so he has to step out. He
Speaker 5: has to step out and let Trump do.
Speaker 6: What he's gonna do.
Speaker 5: And I think they did this together, and I think.
Speaker 2: You know that's that's the point of view.
Speaker 5: I think it's does anybody else said that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, A couple of people mentioned that last night. We talked.
Speaker 2: We touched on this briefly last night, and there were
Speaker 2: a couple of people. There was one fellow who was
Speaker 2: a solid strong Trump supporter. I'd be interested. Are you
Speaker 2: a big Trump guy or are you ambivalent on on Trump?
Speaker 5: I love them more than like itself.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I identified that person who I hope you
Speaker 2: love more than life itself would be your wife and
Speaker 2: your kids. But we'll let that go up another day.
Speaker 2: Trump were to leave tomorrow, you'd still have JD. Van's Okay,
Speaker 2: just think of.
Speaker 5: Even though you're on that subject, and it's ridiculous all
Speaker 5: you got friends and wife and that families are in
Speaker 5: big trouble it just because one Likee's Trump, and it's terrible.
Speaker 5: You probably do too.
Speaker 2: Family I think has different. There are some families that
Speaker 2: are unanimous one way or the other.
Speaker 5: But I think really and it goes to hate too.
Speaker 2: So hey, you know the Hopefully it never gets to that.
Speaker 2: Hopefully it can be strong disagreements, but never Hey, hey Dave,
Speaker 2: thanks very much. You're a good sport. Appreciate your calling.
Speaker 2: We'll talk again, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 7: Thanks to you.
Speaker 2: You've got one line at six one seven, two five
Speaker 2: four ten thirty. I got one line at six one
Speaker 2: seven nine three ten thirty. What I'm looking for is
Speaker 2: essentially your belief who's right who's wrong here. I know
Speaker 2: there are people out there who think this is a charade.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a charade. When allegations are made
Speaker 2: that by Elon Musk that former well President Trump in
Speaker 2: his prior existence was involved with the the Epstein stuff,
Speaker 2: which is I mean, that's and he's saying that the
Speaker 2: What what Musk said was that the Epstein material, not
Speaker 2: all of it has been released, because some of it,
Speaker 2: according to Musque, implicates President Trump. I think that would
Speaker 2: be that's that's a body blow. That's a tough one.
Speaker 2: Now again, whether it's true or not, we don't know.
Speaker 2: But for Musk to go there, either he must know
Speaker 2: something and how he would know what God only knows,
Speaker 2: or he's just throwing a bomb with nothing to back
Speaker 2: it up, which is reprehensible if it's not true. Back
Speaker 2: on Nightside, we got the news and then we'll be
Speaker 2: back and if you want to weigh in on the
Speaker 2: indictment of that Marilyn Man who was sent by mistake
Speaker 2: to the Seact prison in Al Salvador. We do have
Speaker 2: some comments that we made late today by the US
Speaker 2: Attorney General, Pam BONDI coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we're talking about the romance between Donald or
Speaker 2: the former romance between Donald Trump and Elon Musk. I
Speaker 2: also want to make sure that you were aware of
Speaker 2: the fact that there has been an indictment. Now the
Speaker 2: Maryland man kill. Mar Abrego Garcia is now back in
Speaker 2: the United States. He's been indicted on human rights smuggling charges,
Speaker 2: and so he's back here, back on US soil, but
Speaker 2: not the way in which I'm sure he or his
Speaker 2: supporters would have wanted it to have to have happened.
Speaker 2: And we have this is a quick SoundBite just to
Speaker 2: give you an opportunity if you want to. We're going
Speaker 2: to weigh in on that because we have a guest
Speaker 2: scheduled at ten o'clock and we will we will finish
Speaker 2: this hour talking about the the Trump breakup of the
Speaker 2: Trump Musk Romance. This is Attorney General Pam Bondi announcing
Speaker 2: the return of Abrego Garcia as well as his the
Speaker 2: indictment that the two count indictment he is now facing
Speaker 2: cut cut a rub.
Speaker 9: A Brego Garcia has landed in the United States to
Speaker 9: face justice. On May twenty first, a grand jury in
Speaker 9: the Middle District of Tennessee returned to sealed indictment charging
Speaker 9: a Brego Garcia with alien smuggling and conspiracy to commit
Speaker 9: alien smuggling in violation of Title eight USC. Thirteen twenty four.
Speaker 9: We want to thank President Buchlea for agreeing to return
Speaker 9: a Breako Garcia to the United States. Our government presented
Speaker 9: El Salvador with an arrest warrant and they agreed to
Speaker 9: return him to our country. We're grateful to President Buchlea
Speaker 9: for agreeing to return him to our country to face
Speaker 9: these very serious charges. This is what American justice looks like.
Speaker 9: Upon completion of his sentence, we anticipate he will be
Speaker 9: returned to his home country of El Salvador.
Speaker 2: Then assumes, indeed, that he is convicted so again you
Speaker 2: can comment to that or the Trump Musk breakup. Let's
Speaker 2: get to Tim in Wilburn. Tim, you got a couple
Speaker 2: of opportunities here, which which both would you like to
Speaker 2: comment on?
Speaker 6: Oh damn, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, Tim, go right ahead.
Speaker 6: Anyhow, interesting I called a couple of nights ago and
Speaker 6: I mentioned about Trump and uh, the other guy, and
Speaker 6: I said, I think, I said, I think the romance
Speaker 6: is over.
Speaker 2: Anyhow, you must have known something, because I agree with
Speaker 2: you now. I think it's definitely over. I think it's
Speaker 2: what call. It's an irreconcilable split. I don't think there's
Speaker 2: any goal back at this point.
Speaker 6: And you said, you said tonight a little while ago,
Speaker 6: the divorce is final. I thought that was funny. Now,
Speaker 6: when I think right like, who's at fault? I think
Speaker 6: the parties. I think the both it's the both of them.
Speaker 2: That's often the case in real life when when a
Speaker 2: couple decides to get divorced, generally there's a there's some
Speaker 2: responsibility to go around. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, I say it's the both of them. The
Speaker 6: parties over for the both of them have had a
Speaker 6: good time, but you know they're yelling at each other,
Speaker 6: and I think it's sort of funny.
Speaker 2: And uh well, mus has to go back to take
Speaker 2: care of the Tesler Automobile Company and all of that,
Speaker 2: and Donald Trump has to take care of the the
Speaker 2: remaining three and three quarter years or so of his administration.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they they both are busy guys. They both
Speaker 2: have a lot to do. That's that's for sure.
Speaker 6: Let me say this. Let me say this about Trump,
Speaker 6: and a lot of people don't like it. He's a businessman, there's.
Speaker 2: No question about that. But Musk is as well. By
Speaker 2: the way, Uh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they both.
Speaker 6: He's the richest man in the world, isn't he.
Speaker 2: I believe that's what has said. How that's calculated is
Speaker 2: always interesting to me. But yeah, no, he absolutely is
Speaker 2: reportedly the richest person in the.
Speaker 6: World, if not one of them. But anyhow, I won't
Speaker 6: keep you on the phone. Uh what the heck? The
Speaker 6: divorce is final. That's funny.
Speaker 2: You have a great weekend.
Speaker 6: Okay, good talking and thank you all right, thanks much.
Speaker 2: We'll talk talk to Thanks. Thanks appreciate it. Let's keep
Speaker 2: rolling here. We're going to go next to Glenn in Brighton. Glenn,
Speaker 2: you were next night side let me pull you up
Speaker 2: on the screen. Here, you're up. You're up, Glen the Redhead.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with Tom about Elon acting like a
Speaker 7: spoiled brad. I I wish Trump couldsume him for slander.
Speaker 7: Would be deprivation of his character. I mean, if Trump
Speaker 7: were a pedophile, which what that implies. The mainstream media,
Speaker 7: which hates Trump's guest, that would have been a long
Speaker 7: time ago, well known. Someone would have brought that out,
Speaker 7: you know the effect.
Speaker 2: But if, if, if it is made up out of
Speaker 2: whole cloth, I don't think that Musk does himself any favor.
Speaker 2: No other pressure we done bringing it up. I mean
Speaker 2: if if, if this is a disagreement over things such
Speaker 2: as so you know, financial subsidies for EV cars, as
Speaker 2: the President says it is, then I think that Musk,
Speaker 2: if he really believed that, he should take the President
Speaker 2: on and just say, hey, look, EV cars are important
Speaker 2: to my business, but they're more important to the climate
Speaker 2: and more important to the to the country as a whole.
Speaker 2: I think there's a there's a way to debate on
Speaker 2: that issue, but I think to bring in Jeffrey Epstein's
Speaker 2: that's what sort sorted reputation. Uh, again, I'm I think
Speaker 2: it should have been beneath everybody. I mean, I would
Speaker 2: think that if there was some substance to it, we
Speaker 2: would have known about it, hopefully before before. Now let's
Speaker 2: put it like that. But who knows. Nothing surprises me.
Speaker 2: So you're you're on the President's side, I.
Speaker 7: Assume, yes, fair and I've lost always, but I used
Speaker 7: her up until today. I had as much respect for
Speaker 7: Ewon as I did for Trump, but I don't anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, did you have the respect for Elon before he
Speaker 2: threw his lot in with President Trump? Last suthing?
Speaker 7: Yes, okay, fair enough. That's good because he's a free
Speaker 7: speech person. I mean he wanted to he didn't want
Speaker 7: conservatives centered on you know, the Internet.
Speaker 2: And yeah, okay, no, that's that's fine. I appreciate it. Glenn,
Speaker 2: have a great weekend, stay stay cool.
Speaker 7: Okay, what about eleven o'clock?
Speaker 2: Everybody has the hall past at eleven o'clock? You know that, Glenn?
Speaker 7: Not all right?
Speaker 2: All right, taught to you soon, good night? All right?
Speaker 2: Let me go next to Tony in New Hampshire. Tony,
Speaker 2: you were next all nights. I go right ahead. We're
Speaker 2: talking about the Trump musk breakup or the indictment of
Speaker 2: the Maryland man who had been sent to El Salvador
Speaker 2: and who's back in America tonight.
Speaker 4: I'm going with the romance breakup. This is just my
Speaker 4: thought process on it.
Speaker 10: And thank you for letting me speak.
Speaker 2: Thank thank you for calling in. Everybody can call, everybody
Speaker 2: could speak on this show, and so thank you. Have
Speaker 2: you called in before. This is your first time.
Speaker 4: Calling, uh, second time calling, but I appreciate that. I
Speaker 4: thank you so much. I just wanted to tell you
Speaker 4: quickly that what I believe is, I believe that President
Speaker 4: Trump and Musk had a pretty great alliance going for
Speaker 4: quite some time and probably many closed door meetings or
Speaker 4: you know, outings or whatnot, or little secret meetings about
Speaker 4: what they're going to do behind the scenes to profit
Speaker 4: the most off of one another. However, they could work
Speaker 4: it out. And what happened is they had a meeting,
Speaker 4: Musk misspoke about something or kept doubling down, and then
Speaker 4: there were major issues flying between them like kids in
Speaker 4: a sandbox. And you know, Musk just must have went
Speaker 4: over the top and said, hey, he's not able to
Speaker 4: follow through on what you know, I promise for him,
Speaker 4: and you know, I'm not going to be able to
Speaker 4: send him any further, but I gave him potentially the presidency,
Speaker 4: and I think just there that might be the process
Speaker 4: behind it. I really am not a big fan of
Speaker 4: either one of them. It doesn't mean that I don't
Speaker 4: appreciate some of the political stances. Like I do believe,
Speaker 4: like in immigration, you know, I believe that you should
Speaker 4: be here legally, you know, you should have to earn it.
Speaker 2: That's my position. I'm a huge supporter of immigration. But
Speaker 2: I just like, if you have a party in your
Speaker 2: backyard or at your home, you want to know who
Speaker 2: is who's coming and who they are. And even if
Speaker 2: even if someone brings an uninvited guest, you don't let
Speaker 2: that person roam around your house. You want to be
Speaker 2: introduced to them and told, oh, yes, this is my
Speaker 2: cousin's he's in here for the weekend. He lives in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles or whatever, and I thought it would be
Speaker 2: okay to bring him. And of course, but nobody wants
Speaker 2: to draw the distinction between legal immigration and illegal immigration.
Speaker 10: You know, could I speak to the did I speak
Speaker 10: to the Epstein thing? I mean, just my thought processes
Speaker 10: is could not be a part of that. I mean,
Speaker 10: we're talking about elitists that were being framed by an
Speaker 10: undercover operation. The operative is Epstein. You know, they're trying
Speaker 10: to like get so many things on tape and get
Speaker 10: some underage things going on and whatnot. I mean, who
Speaker 10: says that there aren't a ton of leaders throughout the
Speaker 10: world and a time of hierarchy that isn't involved in
Speaker 10: that situation. And all President Trump would have to say is, hey,
Speaker 10: you know I'm president, and please don't share that information
Speaker 10: and never let it go and like lawyer it up
Speaker 10: so much that it gets covered. I'm not saying that
Speaker 10: it could not be a possibility. I'm just saying is
Speaker 10: and maybe Musk is on it, maybe there's others, maybe
Speaker 10: there's just my thought is that I tend to believe
Speaker 10: that he could potentially have some issue, and you know,
Speaker 10: it could be a correct notion from Musk on that end,
Speaker 10: but I think there's many others that are involved too,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean, maybe they were told, hey,
Speaker 10: these folks are eighteen and over, but you know what
Speaker 10: they're not, because.
Speaker 2: At that point you're getting into the issues of criminality
Speaker 2: and a potential try I just think that no one
Speaker 2: in their right mind wants to be associated with something
Speaker 2: like that. And I would think that anybody who had
Speaker 2: political aspirations at the level that Donald Trump and others
Speaker 2: had such aspirations, you know, you don't you don't know
Speaker 2: where the truth is. And obviously, if they said, gave
Speaker 2: us a list of twenty people who you and I
Speaker 2: had never heard of, you'd say, oh, that's you. You'd
Speaker 2: yawn and say what else does do? But when you
Speaker 2: not put names on the list of you know, former
Speaker 2: political leaders of Democrat and Republican Party, it sort of
Speaker 2: sparks interest in it, that's for sure. So I I
Speaker 2: I would have to see it before you know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to believe worst about people just upon some
Speaker 2: statement of somebody who has just had a had an
Speaker 2: ugly split with someone, whether it's uh, you know, a spouse,
Speaker 2: or whether it's someone who's who's a partner in business
Speaker 2: or someone who is a partner in politics. As the
Speaker 2: as these two were simple.
Speaker 4: As that agreed, can I can I say one more
Speaker 4: thing to click is you know what was with taxes
Speaker 4: and whatnot? And with a lot of the politicians, they
Speaker 4: know this too. And Trump did do one great thing
Speaker 4: that you know, he pulled over Hillary, which is excellent
Speaker 4: because Hillary took part in all their comrades as well.
Speaker 4: Is that you know, when you have lost carryover from losses, right,
Speaker 4: you can put that over a span of twenty five
Speaker 4: years or whatever the term may be, or even shorter
Speaker 4: period of time to be able to cancel off what
Speaker 4: you owe to oh zero. So all these folks are
Speaker 4: doing that, So I give him.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a legitimate that is an absolutely right, legitimate
Speaker 2: U provision in the tax code. You know, you upset
Speaker 2: losses against gains and there is uh right, yeah, and
Speaker 2: people hire lawyers to make sure it's done properly. All that,
Speaker 2: there's there's no question about that. And and different uh people,
Speaker 2: political people could argue, well, that guy or that woman
Speaker 2: hadn't paid any taxes. Well, the question is not whether
Speaker 2: they paid any taxes or how much taxes, but did
Speaker 2: they avoid taxes legally or illegally. That's that's what.
Speaker 4: You gotta shared across many spectrums, many realms, political parties,
Speaker 4: you know, you name it. You know, so thank you
Speaker 4: for letting me talk tonight. I appreciate that, and I'll
Speaker 4: definitely call it and I appreciate listening to you as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we're we're always looking for new callers. We
Speaker 2: love our traditional regular callers, but we're always looking for
Speaker 2: new callers, and and please call call more oft an Tony.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: All right, have a good night, Thank you too.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got some lines open, which of course is
Speaker 2: always troubling. If you like to weigh in, this is
Speaker 2: the case of the Maryland man. I think is quite
Speaker 2: interesting because this is a guy who had a US
Speaker 2: senator come and visit him, had members of Congress come
Speaker 2: down and visit him, became a real cause celeb, and
Speaker 2: a judge ordered that he be returned to the United States.
Speaker 2: He has been returned to the United States. That's what
Speaker 2: the Attorney General, Pam Bondi announced tonight. He was indicted
Speaker 2: two weeks ago by a grand jury out of Tennessee
Speaker 2: of federal grand jury out of Tennessee essentially on human
Speaker 2: smuggling charges and if and again innocent and too a
Speaker 2: proof of guilty. But if the allegations are proven in
Speaker 2: a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt, or if
Speaker 2: this gentleman decides that with his lawyers they want to
Speaker 2: plead guilty to this. It's going to certainly make all
Speaker 2: of those members of Congress who decided to fly to
Speaker 2: El Salvador look pretty stupid in my opinion, Craven, Actually,
Speaker 2: it would be a better word that they were using
Speaker 2: this individual for their own political advantages, and now this
Speaker 2: is going to come back potentially and really bite them significantly.
Speaker 2: So weigh in on that, or you can weigh in
Speaker 2: on the breakup of Donald Trump and Elon Musk. At
Speaker 2: ten o'clock, I'm delighted to tell you we'll be talking
Speaker 2: with an author name is Jeff Convits. He wrote a
Speaker 2: major bestseller back several years ago, sold six million copies,
Speaker 2: which is a lot of books to sell, called The Sentinel.
Speaker 2: He now has written a book called Circus of Satan,
Speaker 2: which is a historical novel. We tend not to generally
Speaker 2: have novelists on, but we make exception for historical novelists
Speaker 2: because this is going to trace the ethics, the morality,
Speaker 2: the judgment, the revenge of a lot of ethnic gangs
Speaker 2: in America over time, Jewish gangs, Irish gangs, and Italian gangs.
Speaker 2: That's after ten. If you want to venture a thought
Speaker 2: on Elon Musk. The breakup between Elon Musk and President Trump.
Speaker 2: Dial right now six one seven, two, five four ten
Speaker 2: thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: And if you want to weigh in on the return,
Speaker 2: not the return that probably many people expected, but the
Speaker 2: return of a Maryland man. Kilmar Abrego Garcia is now
Speaker 2: back on US soil. He is out of the Salvador
Speaker 2: in prison, but he may he is now facing prison
Speaker 2: time in the United States. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Ray Boston's news Radiolright.
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling here. My next caller is Laurie in Providence,
Speaker 2: Rhode Island. Laurie, you were next on Nightside. Welcome, Hi,
Speaker 2: Why Laurie.
Speaker 7: Welcome?
Speaker 6: I've never called before, so.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I listened every single day, especially if it's something that
Speaker 11: fascinates me how people feel about certain things. But I
Speaker 11: just had to weigh in on this Donald Trump thing,
Speaker 11: Elon Musk thing. It amazes me how naive people are.
Speaker 11: Do we really feel like these guys went from friend
Speaker 11: to enemy in zero point four seconds like a testler
Speaker 11: Or No, No, they didn't. They're still friends and they
Speaker 11: absolutely doing what's best for each of them, his time
Speaker 11: was up.
Speaker 6: He did what he had to do.
Speaker 11: That ball's rolling. And now Donald Trump, who was a
Speaker 11: very caring person in my opinion, he really cares about
Speaker 11: people he likes and he needs this guy to have
Speaker 11: people like him again. So what's the best way to
Speaker 11: get people on the other side like Elon Musky again?
Speaker 11: And they're all eating it right up? Oh so great,
Speaker 11: Now let's go buy a Tesla again. You know, like,
Speaker 11: oh yeah, you're not the only.
Speaker 2: Laurie, You're not the only person who has expressed that
Speaker 2: viewpoint in the last couple of nights in the show.
Speaker 2: But I got to be honest with you. I gotta
Speaker 2: be honest with you. I'm on the other side of
Speaker 2: this argument. I think that with Donald Trump, a lot
Speaker 2: of his so quote unquote, amusing air quotes now friendships
Speaker 2: was called transactional, meaning he went through a lot of
Speaker 2: people in the first administration.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I heard the yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think he will go through others. And I
Speaker 2: think that they got to a point here where maybe
Speaker 2: maybe Musk who was saying that he was going to
Speaker 2: find a trillion dollars worth of wasted government. So far,
Speaker 2: they've only identified about one hundred not that it's only
Speaker 2: but one hundred and seventy five billion. Maybe that's a
Speaker 2: little bit of a burr under President Trump's saddle. I
Speaker 2: just think, I I think that this is an honest separation,
Speaker 2: And why if it wasn't, why would Musk throw the
Speaker 2: the Jeffrey Epstein Epstein allegation out there?
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's amazing because that allegation, that allegation
Speaker 6: is old. I mean, that's not even gonna that's not.
Speaker 11: Gonna carry any weight because we all know there were
Speaker 11: pictures with we know, we know there are pictures of
Speaker 11: Milania and Donald with him down coming through Mono.
Speaker 6: Lago or whatever.
Speaker 11: Plus they're all gonna Pruss pass for you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the implication was more than I think
Speaker 2: I think the implication. I just think the implication was
Speaker 2: more than oh, they they met at a couple of fundraisers.
Speaker 2: That's my thought. I don't know, look at his Laurie,
Speaker 2: let's see what happens. I could be totally wrong on this.
Speaker 2: I just look at this as another transactual relationship that
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has gotten out of it. Everything that he
Speaker 2: feels he could and maybe must at this point has
Speaker 2: become a liability. We'll see what happens. Let's see where
Speaker 2: we are six months from now. Let's see where we
Speaker 2: are six weeks from now. Thank you for calling. This
Speaker 2: is your first time calling. I hope you continue to
Speaker 2: call and become a more regular caller. I thank you
Speaker 2: so much. Appreciate it very much, me.
Speaker 11: Talking and thank you.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I have a good night, you too, have a great weekend.
Speaker 2: Stay cool, all right, we're done. For those of you
Speaker 2: who are now on the line, You're just a little
Speaker 2: too late because we have a guest coming up and
Speaker 2: we will be changing topics right after the ten o'clock news.
Speaker 2: So I just wish, folks, you would realize that when
Speaker 2: you call, we tend to do this program in our blocks.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we do go over. But when I have a
Speaker 2: guest coming up at ten o'clock, I've walked into the
Speaker 2: guest and we have a great guest coming up. I
Speaker 2: think you'll enjoy a he's an attorney, he's an author,
Speaker 2: he's written some very successful books. And we're going to
Speaker 2: talk when the when the news is over with Jeff convicts. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's going to be a very interesting guest. We'll be
Speaker 2: back on Nightside right after this