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Speaker 6: Today's guest joining us from the Northeast is Andrew.
Speaker 3: Andrew, how are you doing today, sir, good Jeorge, thank
Speaker 3: you well.
Speaker 6: Thanks for your time on this beautiful Monday night. And
Speaker 6: why don't you take a minute or two and introduce
Speaker 6: yourself to the audience.
Speaker 1: My name is Andrew. I'm sixty four years old. I
Speaker 1: live here in Massachusetts, Barnum raised. I'm growing up. I
Speaker 1: have five brothers. I lived in a take a eleven
Speaker 1: hundred square foot house with eight of us, who's pretty
Speaker 1: pretty congested, but we did it. And my father were
Speaker 1: at the only we only had one pay check and
Speaker 1: at that time live, you know, and get bye with
Speaker 1: just one paycheck. My brother, my mother, she took us
Speaker 1: to church. She became a Christ June I think in
Speaker 1: I think around nineteen sixty six, and from there she
Speaker 1: churched us very very very well. We had to go
Speaker 1: to church Sunday morning, Sunday night, pray meetings, whenever it
Speaker 1: is or service. We had to be that. There was
Speaker 1: no getting out of it. And uh, you know, she
Speaker 1: she did a job, you know, training us in the
Speaker 1: Word and stuff and bringing us up in the faith.
Speaker 1: I didn't get saved until I was in my thirties.
Speaker 1: I was thirty three years old. I was back in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three that I actually accepted Christ. But you know,
Speaker 1: the gospel that I was raised with and what I learned,
Speaker 1: you know later on, you know, it was a little different.
Speaker 1: You know, the church that I grew up with, you know,
Speaker 1: you can lose your salvation. It was very legalistic. I
Speaker 1: mean all the women know, makeup dresses down belowed. They
Speaker 1: always had to wear a dress, and you know, it
Speaker 1: was that typical. It was like, yeah, the grace wasn't
Speaker 1: really there. It wasn't until I was in my you know,
Speaker 1: thirties and my brother got saved that he actually, you know,
Speaker 1: explained the gospel in a different manner to me where
Speaker 1: I can understand, you know, understand it that you're salvation
Speaker 1: and it's not based upon your works, but it's based
Speaker 1: upon to finish work. Jesus Christ and what he did
Speaker 1: for you, and now what you have to do. There's
Speaker 1: no salvation maintenance program. Once you believe, you believe. And
Speaker 1: so from there, you know, I went on. You know,
Speaker 1: I really got into the scriptures. I really dug into
Speaker 1: the word, you know, and I actually got into the
Speaker 1: dispensational camp of theology. And I was in that camp
Speaker 1: for I don't know, maybe about seven eight years, and
Speaker 1: you know, and then I left the church that I was.
Speaker 1: I was at a church for like five years, and
Speaker 1: I left that church and I went to a small
Speaker 1: town church. I'm still there now, it's been twenty five years,
Speaker 1: at the same church and the Passador at the time.
Speaker 1: And I started, you know, when I first went there,
Speaker 1: I told him, you know, it was a dispncers and
Speaker 1: this staff, but he never really pushed anything on me.
Speaker 1: And you know, and then one day I started. I
Speaker 1: was wrecking out my garage and some JWS came and
Speaker 1: it was a lady and her granddaughter and she says
Speaker 1: to me, she says, yeah, I'm a Jehovah witness. I've
Speaker 1: been a Jehovah witness for twenty five years. And I
Speaker 1: didn't really want to talk to her at the time,
Speaker 1: and I said to her, you know, and she gave
Speaker 1: me the stuff. I just put it aside. I had
Speaker 1: a good idea of what they were all about and stuff,
Speaker 1: and at the Christ that they taught in the Christ
Speaker 1: that we believe, it's two different Christs. And so she
Speaker 1: left there, and then the follow week she comes back again,
Speaker 1: and I started talking to her, and I said to her,
Speaker 1: you know, I looked a little bit at the paraphernicita
Speaker 1: gave me, but I you know, the Christ that you
Speaker 1: believe in the Christ that I believe, or two different Christ.
Speaker 1: She goes, what do you mean. I go, well, the
Speaker 1: Christ that you believe, do you believe? It is a
Speaker 1: small crisis. He's not God, but he's a lesser God.
Speaker 1: He's not And she and I said, well, you know
Speaker 1: the wise men or shook him. And and when I
Speaker 1: said that to her, it was like she never even
Speaker 1: read it, you know. And and so you know, I
Speaker 1: left uh with some questions. And then the following week
Speaker 1: she comes back with the grand Coolbauer of the Kingdom Hall.
Speaker 1: And that guy showed up at my house three weeks
Speaker 1: in a row, and I was debating them, debating them
Speaker 1: and I wasn't even prepared for the guy either. But
Speaker 1: he would come back and he would start, you know,
Speaker 1: debating me, and and I was just you know, off
Speaker 1: the top of my head, cooling the scripture to him.
Speaker 1: And so one day, I, you know, he left, and
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm going to figure out
Speaker 1: this guy's theology. I want to learn about it. And
Speaker 1: I got doctor Walter Martin's book on Witnessing to the Witnesses.
Speaker 1: And in that book and the preference I think it was,
Speaker 1: it says that the average to hope of witness will
Speaker 1: make a theological pretzel out of the average born again Christian.
Speaker 1: And I started reading that book. Man, it was so
Speaker 1: deep here. Man, I got so much out of it.
Speaker 1: I learned more about Christ than the person. It was like.
Speaker 1: But the guy never came back. The guy never came
Speaker 1: back to like two or three years later, but some
Speaker 1: of the other people from that came there. I debated
Speaker 1: a big time, and from that I began to think,
Speaker 1: you know what, I should go back and look at
Speaker 1: the stuff that I, you know, was taught and then
Speaker 1: and I and I talked to my past about it
Speaker 1: at the time, and he gave me two books on dispensationalism,
Speaker 1: and I tell you, I went through those books and
Speaker 1: by the time I got done, and it was like, man,
Speaker 1: the whole picture changed my whole understanding of especially Eschatology
Speaker 1: and you know, the second of Coming of Christ and
Speaker 1: all that. The whole picture changed. And I could not
Speaker 1: look at the scriptures again in the same way. And
Speaker 1: I just you know, I went from being in a
Speaker 1: distancer and to the common in side where you know,
Speaker 1: Israel took over where I mean, the Church took over
Speaker 1: where Israel had left off. You know, we were grafting
Speaker 1: in and and it was like I just you know,
Speaker 1: changed my whope, respected my started researching. But coming down
Speaker 1: on the flat earth was like I remember when I
Speaker 1: first got saved and I was, you know, learning, you know,
Speaker 1: the scriptures and stuff, and I asked about the canopy
Speaker 1: over the Europe what happened to it? I still remember
Speaker 1: to this day that I was told that that went
Speaker 1: away after the nose flood. It was gone. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, and you know, I just took from
Speaker 1: her grant and I guess it didn't. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: un until I got up to twenty twenty and everything's
Speaker 1: locked down I'm sitting in my eye and I got
Speaker 1: sick of listening to the right wing left wing paradigm
Speaker 1: was listening to you know, this guy's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: on the right and this guy's on the left, and
Speaker 1: I had to step outside, and I finally, you know,
Speaker 1: started listening to people that were alternative media whatever. And
Speaker 1: so I was listening to this guy. He was a
Speaker 1: health dude, and he's just talk stuff. I don't even
Speaker 1: think he's a Christian, but I just listened to his
Speaker 1: health person because he had some health stuff that's really interesting.
Speaker 1: And he started talking about that video series What Happened
Speaker 1: on Flat Earth with the EWA, and I looked it
Speaker 1: up and I go, man, this think six hours? I man,
Speaker 1: I must to watch half of it, if not more.
Speaker 1: And then I watched the rest of it, and then
Speaker 1: I went back and watched it again and there was
Speaker 1: all different you know, series in there, but the one
Speaker 1: Flat Earth really stood out to me, you know, that
Speaker 1: segment and that really stood out to me. And I
Speaker 1: started reading because I had no you know, understanding of
Speaker 1: the ice walls. I had nothing, you know, and none
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I was never taught in school, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: in school, we were taught, you know, the basic a
Speaker 1: fella history, the rate rockefella science, and we were you know,
Speaker 1: and you always heard the story. You know, Christopher Columbus
Speaker 1: he's going to fall up, that he was going to
Speaker 1: go off the side of the Earth, and you know,
Speaker 1: and you know, you see the CEO and everything before,
Speaker 1: you know, the top of it, and then as the
Speaker 1: boat gets closer, it's went over the curve and all that.
Speaker 1: But you know, then I started researching it and research
Speaker 1: and I could not look at the heliocentric model the
Speaker 1: same as you know, I could not look at it,
Speaker 1: and I you know, there's too many questions, and so
Speaker 1: I went down that rabbit hole. I still go to.
Speaker 1: I still you know, it's like the ice walls, the Antarctic,
Speaker 1: the whole Rupus and Agro, that whole, you know. The
Speaker 1: we had the Northern lights over here last I think
Speaker 1: it was the last October, and you've seen them. I
Speaker 1: guess you probably saw it down there where you are by.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, and the way I look at it,
Speaker 1: I look at a map. I don't look at the
Speaker 1: map now like I look at a globe, like the
Speaker 1: North Poles at the top, I look at it, the
Speaker 1: north poles in the middle and everything is on the
Speaker 1: outside of it, and I just I just could not
Speaker 1: you know, I cannot see the helio central model is
Speaker 1: being legit. No, It's like and so yeah, and now
Speaker 1: I go to church and most of the people in
Speaker 1: my church. I got one guy in my church, she's
Speaker 1: he just came maybe about three years ago. I started
Speaker 1: talking to him and I started talking and I mentioned
Speaker 1: flat up. He goes, yeah, me, I'm flat up to him,
Speaker 1: and you stopped. We talked from it for the August time.
Speaker 1: And it's like, but yeah, And it's like when you
Speaker 1: go to the scriptures and you start reading the Book
Speaker 1: of Genesis and you read Genesis where he separates the
Speaker 1: waters from the below from the waters above, and there's
Speaker 1: a firmament up there, and he put the stars and
Speaker 1: he made two lights, not just one light, but two lights,
Speaker 1: and he put them in the firmament. And it's like,
Speaker 1: and the stars were in the frontament.
Speaker 6: Which goes back to your original statement when you were
Speaker 6: originally told, oh that can it be went away? Well,
Speaker 6: what happened to the sun and the moon? Then then
Speaker 6: if they were placed inside the firmament.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the stars too. It's like, yeah, what are
Speaker 1: they just yeah, and it's and you know, you think
Speaker 1: about it. I was nine look, yeah, I was nine
Speaker 1: years old when.
Speaker 3: Went to the mission.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yell Arge Strong stepped on the moon. I remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember that. That was one thing I did remember
Speaker 1: nine years old watching the whole thing on TV Walter
Speaker 1: Karkak and everything, and watching that whole thing, and I
Speaker 1: look back on it so Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong
Speaker 1: were in the front of it, you know what I mean, right,
Speaker 1: And you know, and I look back and it's like
Speaker 1: even this whole nine months in space thing that just
Speaker 1: oc could.
Speaker 3: That video was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It was. And you know, I got guys that church
Speaker 1: busting me up because they think I don't care what
Speaker 1: they think of me, because I know what I know,
Speaker 1: and I put stuff out there to them and to
Speaker 1: make them think. And it's like so big, you know
Speaker 1: you ain't going to think. Can you prove to me
Speaker 1: that after you have to spin it? Can you can? You? Can? You?
Speaker 1: I mean if you went up in a helicopter and
Speaker 1: just levitated withold you being in California in a couple
Speaker 1: of hours and you know, stuff like that and this.
Speaker 1: It's like you think about it, the helicopter upside down
Speaker 1: in Australia or deep doing South America. It does you know,
Speaker 1: it's does a snow upside down? And you know, you
Speaker 1: think about it. How to snowfall do they have.
Speaker 3: Instead of gravity pulling it down?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, that's a whole other thing. And you know
Speaker 1: when you start going down that, you know, the whole
Speaker 1: gravity thing. It's like it's an indoctrination. And I I
Speaker 1: have six grandchildren, and I tell my my kids that that,
Speaker 1: you know what you're always you got to watch what
Speaker 1: they're teaching them in school. You've got to be vigilant
Speaker 1: because you know, it's not an education anymore. It's an indoctrination.
Speaker 1: And it's they're putting you know, they're putting in our
Speaker 1: mind stuff that you know later on now road they
Speaker 1: might not change their mind. You know. That's what they
Speaker 1: call it cognitive dissonance.
Speaker 6: Cognitive dissonance, And that's why it's so important to the
Speaker 6: creators of the matrix that we put the children in
Speaker 6: public school because that age between you know, seven and
Speaker 6: fourteen or whatever is when the mind is molded the most,
Speaker 6: and after that it is very difficult to get people
Speaker 6: to change their belief system. So for people like myself
Speaker 6: and you who woke up to this much later in life,
Speaker 6: I think we're more the exception than the rule.
Speaker 3: Andrew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you really yet that or it is the
Speaker 1: to change you know, perspective and your views on things.
Speaker 1: And it's like you've got to, like the Bible said,
Speaker 1: like Paul told Timothy, you know, study to show yourself approval.
Speaker 1: Workman need not be ashamed. Rather the dividing a word,
Speaker 1: the truth is ready to give an account for the
Speaker 1: hook that is within you. I mean you start, that's
Speaker 1: why you study. You know, if there's something that's you know,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen or you know, a perspective that you
Speaker 1: haven't looked at before and you know, taken into account
Speaker 1: and you know, don't have such an open mind where
Speaker 1: you can be taken but also you know, be discerned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know it's like always study, always study. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're forever one in this realm and with the scripts
Speaker 1: is you know that's here forever. You know, you can
Speaker 1: read the Bible a thousand.
Speaker 3: Times and learn something new every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even some of the other books there I've
Speaker 1: I've read the book I was reading that must maybe
Speaker 1: first ten to twelve chapters of the Book of josh
Speaker 1: Do you ever read that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, part of the apocryphy.
Speaker 6: I've kind of dabbled through Enoch Jasher Maccabee's a few
Speaker 6: of those. Obviously not as much as the Bible. I
Speaker 6: don't really have much of it memorized, but I have
Speaker 6: the Geneva from fifteen sixty actually have two copies. One
Speaker 6: listener was kind enough to send me one as well. So,
Speaker 6: you know, I think every time something is translated, right,
Speaker 6: and if we're Protestants, I like to read things closer
Speaker 6: to the actual Reformation. So I guess the Geneva Bible
Speaker 6: was written, you know, fifty sixty years after the Reformation.
Speaker 6: Whereas King James and somebody made a good point to
Speaker 6: me the other day, right, and the fact that King
Speaker 6: James was also friends with Francis Bacon, who Bile accounts
Speaker 6: wasn't a great guy. But nevertheless, was there a deeper meaning.
Speaker 3: To them removing the fourteen books before publishing the Canonies
Speaker 3: now sixty six book version of the Bible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that Book of Joshua, it really lays,
Speaker 1: can't you get more insight of the Book of Genesis
Speaker 1: in that you know, when it started talking about when
Speaker 1: he got up to the memory portion where he's building.
Speaker 3: A towel Bible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, man, you know when it took
Speaker 1: they were at one point where it was taken a
Speaker 1: year to take bricks from the bottom to the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it took a year.
Speaker 6: Just to get a break. That's how But think about it,
Speaker 6: that's how high they were, I know.
Speaker 1: And the thing is they didn't care if somebody died,
Speaker 1: but they can't the bricks broke.
Speaker 3: There was a different time, man, I'll tell you what uh.
Speaker 1: Later.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, truly was you were just a number, but
Speaker 6: those bricks mean everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But even with you know, he talks about Abel
Speaker 1: no King treated Kane, you know, and when Kane, it
Speaker 1: talks about him his death and stopped there. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember reading that portion of it and
Speaker 1: how he died and stuff. But now going back to
Speaker 1: the Book of Genesis and the creation of Cown, I
Speaker 1: was listening and this guy sort of separated Genesis chapter
Speaker 1: one from Genesis chapter two in the Creation of Man,
Speaker 1: where at the end of Genesis chapter one, you know,
Speaker 1: he created man he told him to be foodful and
Speaker 1: multiply and fill the Europe. And then Genesis chapter two
Speaker 1: goes into the d tale of him creating Adam and
Speaker 1: even putting them in the garden to tell the you know,
Speaker 1: to take care of it and all that, and then
Speaker 1: when everything went down and they got thrown out of
Speaker 1: the garden and then Kane kills Abel and the King's
Speaker 1: all nabbed up. So what happens if they catch me
Speaker 1: out there? Those other people? You know? And it's like,
Speaker 1: I always thought, who's out there? If Adam and Eve
Speaker 1: are the first people and then they have Able and King,
Speaker 1: who else is out there? Is there somebody else out there?
Speaker 1: And this guy made a point saying that God created
Speaker 1: other men and woman at the end of Genesis chapter one.
Speaker 1: Whether those other ones that became you know, you know
Speaker 1: that colt Mingle with the angels and stuff like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Nephelene and all that. I don't know, but that
Speaker 1: always steinied me. Where you know, Kin was nervous that
Speaker 1: somebody was going to kill him, and who what it
Speaker 1: would be if.
Speaker 6: Right at that time there was there was only a
Speaker 6: few people on earth, So who was he referring to?
Speaker 6: So do you think he was referring to the thirty
Speaker 6: three angels that had already been kicked down.
Speaker 3: From heaven.
Speaker 1: It could be.
Speaker 3: I should say a third Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: I don't know where they dwelling on at that time.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's it doesn't say it in the
Speaker 1: book the Genesis, but that that was always something that
Speaker 1: really I always you know, I had a question about
Speaker 1: where Kane was nervous and and that guy put it
Speaker 1: where he said that, you know, Genesis chapter one, God
Speaker 1: created other men and women and they and then Adam
Speaker 1: and he was a whole different project. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know it as you can look at it like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is interesting. I'm not sure I've ever thought
Speaker 6: about that. You know, he was called a fugitive in
Speaker 6: a vagabond shalt that be in the earth, And yeah,
Speaker 6: that's interesting. I don't to have to go back and
Speaker 6: look at that, and kind of I've never really thought
Speaker 6: that because it's actually verse fourteen where he talks about
Speaker 6: and it shall come to pass that everyone that findeth
Speaker 6: me shall slay me.
Speaker 1: But if you go back to chapter one, at the
Speaker 1: end of the chapter, it gets you know, they create
Speaker 1: to you know, be foodful and multiplied Philly, yep.
Speaker 6: And that's everything that goes against what the for lack
Speaker 6: of a better words, the new world order and the
Speaker 6: globalists tell us, right, it is that we're overpopulated. Right,
Speaker 6: That's why abortion is part of their agenda they want
Speaker 6: to go against because it is antichrist. Just within the
Speaker 6: last hour or two they nominated a new head of
Speaker 6: the CDC. And the first thing I always do is
Speaker 6: to just kind of go back and look at them.
Speaker 6: And she said in June of twenty twenty two that
Speaker 6: she was championing abortion and that abortion is healthcare. So
Speaker 6: you know, here we are once again, we're supposed to
Speaker 6: have this you know, Christian administration, and where we have
Speaker 6: someone in a lead health role that champions abortion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole CDC, the who and you know all
Speaker 1: those they have a globalist agenda. Globalist.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 1: They're going to get the agenda. But they have an
Speaker 1: agenda that you know, they want to you know, whe
Speaker 1: a lot of the population out. And you know this
Speaker 1: whole COVID thing with the shots and stuff. I did
Speaker 1: not take the shot. I was dedicated. I never took
Speaker 1: a flu shot. I never believed in them. I never
Speaker 1: trusted them, and it's like, yeah, that whole agenda there was,
Speaker 1: you know, see how far they can get away with,
Speaker 1: you know, locking people in their houses or whatever, telling
Speaker 1: them up. Being in Massachusetts, it was it wasn't easy.
Speaker 1: We went we actually left, I think it was in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. We went down to Florida and we
Speaker 1: left out of Boston Logan and it was like a
Speaker 1: morgan after that whole airport and when we got to FLOORA,
Speaker 1: it was all lit up and it was like, man,
Speaker 1: I mean some people were wearing mask but it was
Speaker 1: pretty much normal. And then when we got in the
Speaker 1: plane to fly back, I remember flying out and looking
Speaker 1: out the window of the plane and looking down at
Speaker 1: Fort Myers and the whole city was lit up. And
Speaker 1: then we flew into Boston at ten o'clock at night
Speaker 1: and it was in the winter time, and we got
Speaker 1: into Logan and they had a ten o'clock curfew you
Speaker 1: had to be in their house. And we flew in
Speaker 1: like a ten thirty and we got out of the
Speaker 1: plane walking through the airport and it was like nobody
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 3: This is Logan, one of the business in America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and nobody in and we started driving down the
Speaker 1: highway and this was the main drag. It was like
Speaker 1: fifty miles no cars on the road. It was like
Speaker 1: I was in a movie, you know, like a horror
Speaker 1: movie or something. Nobody could be on the streets. Everybody
Speaker 1: had to be in our house. And and it you know,
Speaker 1: they put the kids in the school, they sent them
Speaker 1: back to school with face masks on. And that's just
Speaker 1: that even you know, it is what it is. My
Speaker 1: kids going to school at that time, they would be
Speaker 1: going with no mask, or they wouldn't be going at all.
Speaker 1: And that that really showed a lot to me how
Speaker 1: how much control these people in government want to have
Speaker 1: over the society and Andy and that was like a
Speaker 1: test to see how much they could get away with.
Speaker 1: So moving forward to this day, I go grocery shop
Speaker 1: and then I still see people wearing face masks. Absolutely
Speaker 1: and they've been the psycho bamboos, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a shame.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a giant psychological operation. But I agree
Speaker 6: with you as well that it was part conditioning for
Speaker 6: the mark. There are some people in the truth community
Speaker 6: who believe it is it wasn't, but it was also
Speaker 6: a test to see how far, like you said, they
Speaker 6: could push certain agendas. And these people are masters of
Speaker 6: psychological operations. So what they'll do is they'll go back
Speaker 6: to their their darker their think tanks, whatever the case
Speaker 6: may be. They'll make adjustments. They'll do small sample tests,
Speaker 6: maybe in remote locations around the world, and the next
Speaker 6: time that something happens, whether it's a quote unquote terrorist
Speaker 6: attack with you know, some type of you get what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, or another you know, outbreak or something like that,
Speaker 6: they will readjust things. And I think the next time
Speaker 6: is endgame. I don't think there's going to be another
Speaker 6: sample set. I think the next time, whatever lever they
Speaker 6: pull is going to be game on.
Speaker 3: And I think they.
Speaker 6: Will push for the entire change in the agenda, the
Speaker 6: fifteen minute cities, the cash list society, you know, everything
Speaker 6: that we've been talking about. Whatever they bring next will
Speaker 6: be the implement implementation of a one world government. And
Speaker 6: of course they're push for a one world religion. And
Speaker 6: by the way, speaking of lockdowns and things like that, Boston,
Speaker 6: you did have certain areas of the city did have
Speaker 6: police lockdown back.
Speaker 3: I think it was May of twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did, Yeah, they did. And Boston. I go
Speaker 1: there a few times. I don't I don't go there
Speaker 1: all the time. I haven't even been there since. I
Speaker 1: think I went to the airport maybe, but other than that,
Speaker 1: I haven't been there since before COVID.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: It Maybe we used to go, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: once in a while and just go shopping up there
Speaker 1: in Boston and stuff and you know, get some to eat,
Speaker 1: spend the day there. But now I don't. You know,
Speaker 1: they got all the they're still fighting all these you know,
Speaker 1: what do you want to call them there? They're not
Speaker 1: illegally aiding answer.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I gotcha.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still fighting those Yeah. I saw that they
Speaker 1: got like seven hundred of them or something like that today,
Speaker 1: something like that. In Boston. They're all housed up in
Speaker 1: all hotels again, you know, debit CODs and money on it.
Speaker 1: They can get a license giving tone and it's like
Speaker 1: preferential treatment. You know. That whole thing down at the
Speaker 1: border was another I don't know, it's like this. There's
Speaker 1: a long game with that letting those people in there.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's part of it, you know, the technocracy thing. Then
Speaker 1: have you seen that? Yes, maybe that's part of that.
Speaker 1: I never knew nothing about that until like a month ago,
Speaker 1: and I started looking into that. And there was a
Speaker 1: big movement back in the I guess the thirties to
Speaker 1: make you know, all Mexico, all the way down to
Speaker 1: the and all the way up to the North Bowl Greenland.
Speaker 1: And you know, Trump stark in Greenland, he stuck in Canada.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's part of the technocracy where you know
Speaker 1: everybody yet and it's and you have these people and
Speaker 1: they're not citizens, and but they're getting this preferential treatment.
Speaker 1: Well they got it. I guess Trump is running them
Speaker 1: out of town and trying to get rid of them.
Speaker 1: But it's you know, that whole thing was the whole
Speaker 1: last four years.
Speaker 6: It's like something out of a movie. You have to
Speaker 6: pinch yourself sometimes and even is this real?
Speaker 3: Is this happening?
Speaker 1: Was he alive? Was he you know, he didn't know
Speaker 1: what day it was. And it's like I had never
Speaker 1: seen anything like that, and it, you know, it goes
Speaker 1: to show you. I didn't vote in the last selection
Speaker 1: that I got to the for, but I got to
Speaker 1: tell you when they say it's a selection, not an election.
Speaker 1: I believe it now, I totally believe it. I don't
Speaker 1: you know, no way did that guy get eighty million votes.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my.
Speaker 6: Umbrella would have got more votes than Biden in a
Speaker 6: fair election, I know.
Speaker 1: And it's like that. It was they installed him, and
Speaker 1: they had an agenda with that guy to use him
Speaker 1: for something.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, the control is you know that who's ever
Speaker 1: in government is not really running them. It's the bank,
Speaker 1: is the cabals, the you know, the CFLs, the Committee
Speaker 1: of three hundred and.
Speaker 3: All that Pharma all part of the club.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, you look at that and you
Speaker 1: look at that whole picture there, and it's pretty involved,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of moving parts, and but you
Speaker 1: don't see them out in the forefront, and they're always
Speaker 1: you know, it's behind the scenes. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: a My whole perspective of our history has changed, you know,
Speaker 1: looking back even at World War Two, what we've been
Speaker 1: told and what I've been learning lately, you know, they
Speaker 1: I never knew that Germany during the nineteen thirties, while
Speaker 1: the whole world was in a depression, Germany was thriving.
Speaker 1: They had the best economy, they had the best everything.
Speaker 1: People wanted to be there, and they looked at the
Speaker 1: Nazi Party like wow, this is you know, they got
Speaker 1: something gold here. And I never knew that Standard Oil
Speaker 1: was supplying the Germans tvgime.
Speaker 3: The rack.
Speaker 6: YEP and so was IBM was was playing both sides
Speaker 6: of the field too. And uh, that was run by
Speaker 6: Prescott Bush's dad. He was all part of that, or
Speaker 6: George Bush's father, Prescott Bush.
Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, I knew about the press cop Bush. Then
Speaker 1: I heard that he you know, he supplied materials to them.
Speaker 1: And but you know, going back and looking at that
Speaker 1: the whole now, you know, you look at Stalin, you
Speaker 1: look at Chu Chill. You know they called Stalin uncle Joe.
Speaker 6: Stalin was ten times worse than Hitler. And people don't
Speaker 6: understand that. Yeah, he examine its fifty million people.
Speaker 1: Yeah and and yeah, and what happened to the German civilians? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the civilians, not the front with a wall that was
Speaker 1: going on innocent So yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Just a few weeks ago was the eightieth anniversary of
Speaker 6: Dresden and I wrote an article on it on sub
Speaker 6: stack and it went pretty viral. Uh, some people said
Speaker 6: thank you for sharing a part of history that nobody's
Speaker 6: aware of because they don't teach it.
Speaker 3: And the other half of the people.
Speaker 6: Called me uh an anti semi is that you can't
Speaker 6: even you know, question history without being called a name.
Speaker 6: But listen, I always say, there's the truth and the
Speaker 6: truth and there's everything else. And you have to have
Speaker 6: thick skin to to kind of be in this business,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you you know, if you you know,
Speaker 1: and people say, oh, what do you know? Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, but I don't this the
Speaker 1: narrative that I was taught. It wasn't the whole story, no,
Speaker 1: you know, like the it's the story of the factor
Speaker 1: is the wedder is and you know, and I what
Speaker 1: he did for Germany. You know you heard about Berlin
Speaker 1: in the twenties.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the why my Republic that was.
Speaker 6: That is kind of where the term one extreme brings
Speaker 6: another comes from, because Germany in the nineteen twenties, Berlin,
Speaker 6: the y mar, the movie industry, the very first transgender
Speaker 6: operation by Hirshfields I forget his name something, Hirshfield. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: that that whole society. And then when you hear about
Speaker 6: the book burnings. What they don't tell you is they
Speaker 6: were burning porn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And they were just cleaning out Berlin because
Speaker 1: Berlin was like prostitute all over the place, mother and daughter,
Speaker 1: prostitute and all that. You know, it was just sin
Speaker 1: city to the max. Yeah, and did they cleaned it
Speaker 1: up and yeah, and put the whole that whole war,
Speaker 1: even the First World War, there was a war is money.
Speaker 1: War is a bank all banks, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: banker's war. And the people that lend money for those
Speaker 1: wars make big bucks, you know, and they even support
Speaker 1: both sides of the wars.
Speaker 6: Absolutely. They hedged their bets like the signs. They hedge
Speaker 6: their bets just like the casinos. So in the Super
Speaker 6: Bowl you got the Eagles and the Chiefs, and when
Speaker 6: some you know, a group of people start betting heavily
Speaker 6: on one team, it changes the odds. The banks have
Speaker 6: to keep their money on both sides in case one wins,
Speaker 6: so they don't go bankrupt.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you know, when I looked at that whole
Speaker 1: time there and that my father had me when he
Speaker 1: was in his forty, so he lived through the whole depression.
Speaker 1: He let through the World War Two, and you know,
Speaker 1: and he he signed up. He was one of those.
Speaker 1: I didn't get drafted. I signed up. He was one
Speaker 1: of those. And he said, and he he was a
Speaker 1: big fan of Roosevelt too, because Roosevelt got them out
Speaker 1: of the depression, and you know, and but he would
Speaker 1: always look at it like, you know, we did a
Speaker 1: good thing. And but he never really understood that it's
Speaker 1: all about the money. It's all about business. If there's
Speaker 1: no war, they're out of business. And that all started,
Speaker 1: like I guess, fromund the Silvil War, and you know,
Speaker 1: they funded both sides of the North and the south,
Speaker 1: and you know, and then when the war was over,
Speaker 1: Oh what are we going to do? You know, we
Speaker 1: all these industries there that change their all, these you know,
Speaker 1: industrial companies change their their business this you know, the
Speaker 1: manufacture for the war. And now they don't have no businesses,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're out of business. And so we're
Speaker 1: going to have war all the time. And now we
Speaker 1: have wars with phantom enemies that we never see. We know,
Speaker 1: have wars against governments. For the most part, it's always
Speaker 1: a phantom al Kaeda Pama you never see these people,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, they're in visible, but you know,
Speaker 1: and do you trust what they're telling you? Do these
Speaker 1: people really you know what I mean? Yep.
Speaker 6: It's that's why they're careful to label thing the war
Speaker 6: on drugs the war on terror, but they never actually
Speaker 6: right if they couldn't say the war was against Osama
Speaker 6: bin Laden, otherwise it would have just been you know,
Speaker 6: maybe a brigade out in Afghanistan or Pakistan looking for him.
Speaker 6: But by calling it the war on terror, they could
Speaker 6: justify the overthrow of Libya, Iraq, yeah, Afghanistan. But the
Speaker 6: other big thing that has missed often is that two
Speaker 6: thousand and nine speech by Kadafi and he predicted that
Speaker 6: the United States wanted to turn Syria into five areas.
Speaker 6: Now it's it's it's in four now within the last year,
Speaker 6: not five. But he's he was spot on about everything
Speaker 6: from vaccines to JFK and and the bankers, the rothschilds,
Speaker 6: and it ended up taking you know, that was the
Speaker 6: target he drew for himself, I guess, but he spoke truth.
Speaker 1: But the thing about those guys should almost same. Kadafi
Speaker 1: and even Hitlot, they had their wrole monetary system. They
Speaker 1: weren't part of the banking cabal, but they weren't part
Speaker 1: of that. And so if you're not part of that,
Speaker 1: I guess is in the same camp. He's not part
Speaker 1: of the the monetary the the world monetary system. I
Speaker 1: can't say glove that system, you know. And he you know,
Speaker 1: they're always poking at him all the time. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's all about the money. And they're all
Speaker 1: boiled down to it. And you know, even the first
Speaker 1: Iraq war, what was that all about? You know, was
Speaker 1: that legit? And then the second one he has w
Speaker 1: N D. You know, you had Dick Cheney, Condo, Lisa
Speaker 1: Rice Colon Powell and who is the Secretary of Defense?
Speaker 1: Their ums failed, you know, all those guys there around Trump,
Speaker 1: you know, puppet and you know saying and saying a
Speaker 1: w N D w N where you know, they were
Speaker 1: under sanctions for what ten years? Some eight years? He
Speaker 1: has w one. Now there was another agenda. There was
Speaker 1: an a motive for them to go in there and
Speaker 1: kill that guy. But you know, and but you know
Speaker 1: right now, all the wars are always some phantom al
Speaker 1: Qaeda group or some you know some hamas or Kutou's
Speaker 1: or me Too's, and you know it's like, do you
Speaker 1: really trust what they're telling you on the media?
Speaker 6: Idol No, And in many cases it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 6: And if you look at the countries that are considered
Speaker 6: our enemy, Russia, Iran, North Korea, you're correct, they don't
Speaker 6: have any Rothschild banks in our countries. And it's interesting
Speaker 6: how things go full circle because first we were talking
Speaker 6: about Jehovah's witnesses, and what people may not know is
Speaker 6: that a gentleman by the name of Charles Russell was
Speaker 6: the guy who really started that whole movement, but he
Speaker 6: was also an early Christian Zionist. That whole push with
Speaker 6: the World Zionist Organization, the Balfour Declaration, the Federal Reserve,
Speaker 6: and then by nineteen forty eight you had the Palestinians,
Speaker 6: you know, moved out Israel, created by the Rothschilds and
Speaker 6: the and that's because you know, we were talking about
Speaker 6: dispensationalism is and then you had FDR, which really created,
Speaker 6: for lack of a better word, the welfare government.
Speaker 3: He made all the people turn in their.
Speaker 6: Cold which nothing says freedom like give up your gold
Speaker 6: the New Deal, and then World War Two, and then
Speaker 6: really you could kind of say we had a good
Speaker 6: run in the fifties.
Speaker 3: You know any TV.
Speaker 6: You know, everybody's clean cut, riding the bicycles like you
Speaker 6: were talking about. Dad was working, Mom was home taking
Speaker 6: care of the house, raising the children, doing all that.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: And then sixties that the whole psychological movement happened, Women's liberation,
Speaker 6: which on paper sounds good, but what that really is
Speaker 6: is trying to divide the nuclear family. You know, if
Speaker 6: you get mom and dad out to work, then the state,
Speaker 6: the government has full possession of your child. You know,
Speaker 6: mom and dad's working hard, come home, scramble for dinner,
Speaker 6: they put their feet up and go to sleep, and
Speaker 6: you repeat. Meanwhile, the state has your child for eight
Speaker 6: of those hours every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they get more tax downards.
Speaker 3: Out of two yes, yeah, exactly, there's more.
Speaker 1: Revenue coming in, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. And so I
Speaker 1: look at when it comes to the walls and all
Speaker 1: those conflicts and stuff there. You know, Peyton, I don't
Speaker 1: know want my great kid's going to die for. Of
Speaker 1: course that's not you know, even the nine to eleven thing,
Speaker 1: I was believing that narrative for a while. But I
Speaker 1: look at that. When I was ten, from the nineteen
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four to nineteen nineteen ninety six, I think
Speaker 1: I worked in a floundery and I was a drop forger.
Speaker 1: And what a drop boarder is. I didn't forge checks
Speaker 1: her name. I foughted stale. I pound it still. You
Speaker 1: can look up. You can go on YouTube and there's
Speaker 1: a video says nineteen fifties drop porch. You can look
Speaker 1: it up. And I pound it still for ten years.
Speaker 1: And I know that you have to have a control
Speaker 1: environment for the steel to heat up to a certain
Speaker 1: temperature in order for it to melt. And when you
Speaker 1: look at those planes and when they went into the building,
Speaker 1: if no way there was a control environment where that
Speaker 1: fire was sustained long enough for those steel beams in
Speaker 1: that structure to heat up to give way. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening at all. It's like it
Speaker 1: takes a control environment for the heat. We used to
Speaker 1: heat up steel to like twenty four to twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred degrees just the fort you know, we used to
Speaker 1: forte stuff like John Wayne finger Levis in order, John
Speaker 1: Wayne Rifo, and we used to do fun sites for
Speaker 1: the sixteen rifles. We did millions of them. And you know,
Speaker 1: and when you forge that stuff, you have to have
Speaker 1: that steal up to a certain temperature. It won't even
Speaker 1: forge correctly. You won't get the right thickness you want.
Speaker 1: It won't fill out properly. And there was no way
Speaker 1: that they said the heat from the jet fuel cause
Speaker 1: that the steel beams the frame of that structure too weakened.
Speaker 1: And then you know, and not to mention, there was
Speaker 1: a third.
Speaker 3: Building nobody talks about.
Speaker 1: It was not a hit by plane, but it came down,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it was Larry Silver. I said pull it.
Speaker 3: I said pull it.
Speaker 1: So they stick a diamond.
Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of truth in that show
Speaker 6: Breaking Bad. There's an episode I think it was. Do
Speaker 6: you remember the old your sketches had the two little circles,
Speaker 6: So I guess something like that has something called has
Speaker 6: thermite inside of it a.
Speaker 3: Very minute amount, right, but if.
Speaker 6: You get a lot of it, it burns at four
Speaker 6: thousand degrees right, really, yes, absolutely it does. And when
Speaker 6: they rob whatever it was. It's been a decade since
Speaker 6: I saw that series. They use thermite to get into
Speaker 6: the safe and I remember them saying, and they show
Speaker 6: the clip it's in a lot of the Truther or
Speaker 6: videos for nine to eleven where they say thermite burns
Speaker 6: at four thousand degrees. And like you mentioned, if you're
Speaker 6: forging steel, melting steel, you're talking upwards of what is
Speaker 6: it eighteen hundred degrees fahrenheit to two thousand degrees or so.
Speaker 1: To forge, you've got to be like twenty three hundred.
Speaker 3: Degrees twenty three hundred, okay, but on.
Speaker 1: Stale different types of steel. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: most of the steel that we were forging with, you know,
Speaker 1: you had to be within twenty three hundred to twenty
Speaker 1: four hundred eating sometimes at twenty five. But then again
Speaker 1: you're you're burning it up. But yeah, that's the temperature
Speaker 1: you need to forge. You know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: variable in it where the the you know, the ram
Speaker 1: on the hammer because the hammer weighed two pounds in
Speaker 1: the ram and you know, and it's banging down on
Speaker 1: the diet and and all that goes into the how
Speaker 1: to steal it, you know, flows when it's being forged.
Speaker 1: But with nine to eleven, you know that I began
Speaker 1: listening too. Was it he just got arrested there. I mean,
Speaker 1: he just but as aus trillion dollars, a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: What's his name? No, no, no, overde in Texas there. Wow,
Speaker 1: he's at the tip of my tongue. I can't say
Speaker 1: Alex Jones, oh Ales, listen. Alex Jones had a video
Speaker 1: who was a VHA vh es tape back in I
Speaker 1: think it was two thousand and three, two thousand, that's
Speaker 1: how far back. That's how far back. Well he had
Speaker 1: one on Bohemian Grove. Yep, I saw that. That's how
Speaker 1: far far back I go over with all that stuff.
Speaker 3: That's a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, Alex was really I used to
Speaker 1: listen to him, but it's like his delivery and the
Speaker 1: way he you know, I just could not. I could
Speaker 1: not say, hey, listen to this guy. You know. You know,
Speaker 1: I like somebody that has a levelhead and speaks calmly,
Speaker 1: and you know.
Speaker 6: I can take his clips as as comedy, but like,
Speaker 6: he is the worst interviewer. When I first got into
Speaker 6: pod casting, I said, I want to be the exact
Speaker 6: opposite of this guy.
Speaker 3: You know, he's constantly talking over people. What you're trying
Speaker 3: to say is no, it's not exactly what he was
Speaker 3: saying at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but I had that video tape for the
Speaker 1: nine to eleven thing, man, you know, and I watched that,
Speaker 1: and you know, there was a lot of points in
Speaker 1: that and even if half of it wasn't true, you know,
Speaker 1: the rest of it it was like and I never
Speaker 1: from that point on I began questioning. Yeah, I I
Speaker 1: you know, the Bush, the whole Bush cocktail, you know,
Speaker 1: even Bush Junior there. You know, Dick Cheney was running
Speaker 1: the White House when he was in there. You know,
Speaker 1: Junior was just there and Junior was sort of like.
Speaker 3: He but he was a pretty low IQ guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean he was there because he's a Bush
Speaker 1: and that was it. Yeah, And you know that whole hotel.
Speaker 1: I would never I never trusted them. And I in
Speaker 1: my Townel I used to live in a couple of
Speaker 1: times over and I was very active back then in
Speaker 1: the nineties and the Christian Coalition, and we went to
Speaker 1: Washington one time to to a convention of Christian Coalition.
Speaker 1: I think it was ninety eight or ninety nine, one
Speaker 1: of those, And it was at the same hotel that
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan got shot. A convention Center whatever that place was,
Speaker 1: and there was all the big heavy hitters there. New
Speaker 1: Game Graves was speaking of the house. Then you know
Speaker 1: you had guys like gallant keys and all these speakers
Speaker 1: and so we had sheets down it a front and
Speaker 1: it was you know, all the speakers will come up
Speaker 1: and speak. And that year dan Quayle was run for president.
Speaker 1: And when dan Quayle got up to speak, he had
Speaker 1: this party of groups of people come running out of
Speaker 1: the back because old stage come running out of the
Speaker 1: back with bandies and everything up in there. And it
Speaker 1: was like, wow, this is you know, I I seen
Speaker 1: it first there, you know, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is how it works.
Speaker 6: That's when you realize politics was nothing more than the
Speaker 6: w W F right, Yeah, it was staged.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, I remember who's the name of the
Speaker 1: Jerry Jerry Fowwell was there. Yeah, and what's his name?
Speaker 1: Chelton Heston was there and now right back then yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and all those heavy hitters there, and you know, I
Speaker 1: met Gary Bauer, you know, you know, you know him
Speaker 1: is familiar under secretary for Ronald Reagan administration. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, we used to do a lot of that.
Speaker 1: We come we went up to Boston the Hobby at
Speaker 1: one time, and Alan Keys was speaking up there. I
Speaker 1: like Alan Keyes. He was a good speaker, great speaker,
Speaker 1: and we met him, you know, we interviewed him and stuff.
Speaker 1: We had a cameras and stuff, and it's pretty pretty fun.
Speaker 1: We had a publication and a news letter that went
Speaker 1: around town and stuff, and we used to hand out
Speaker 1: the voteing, you know, with the politicians stand on the
Speaker 1: issues and stuff like that. But you know, that all
Speaker 1: fell apart after a while, and you know, we had
Speaker 1: our own little TV show on a cable system and stuff.
Speaker 1: But you know that all came to it end.
Speaker 6: But the old cable access days. Huh, the old cable
Speaker 6: access days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gable access TV. There was no Internet at the time. No,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, well I guess the Internet was in its
Speaker 1: infant stages. Yeah, yeah, but it's not like it is now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. It was pretty interesting. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I got into that, you know, the the alternative media
Speaker 1: back then, and I always looked at the mainstream media
Speaker 1: with the you know, keep in mind, you know, do
Speaker 1: I believe what I'm hearing? You know, and you know,
Speaker 1: they're all paid for they paid for it. About the
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical companies that pay for you know, I just I
Speaker 1: just look at them and look at that, and I say,
Speaker 1: I don't trust them. I don't trust any of them.
Speaker 1: It's just h yeah, they they're they had promoting agenda
Speaker 1: and they have you know, watching orders, I guess, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: just what to say, how to say it, how many
Speaker 1: times they say it? You know. And you've seen that
Speaker 1: media thing there with all the locals did that whole
Speaker 1: thing and you know there's like fifty channels across the country.
Speaker 3: And they say the same thing over and over and
Speaker 3: over and over and over.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But anyways, yeah, that's ingird media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so yeah, so when I when it came
Speaker 1: down to the flatter thing, I started looking at you know,
Speaker 1: the room I live in. It is not what I
Speaker 1: thought it is. And I was lied to. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like God is not somewhere out in space,
Speaker 1: way beyond the blah blah blah. He's just the boss,
Speaker 1: you know. And you know, an apostle Paul says, I
Speaker 1: know a man in the fleshman the spirit, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but was caught up into the third heaven. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's he's not that far. He's ships. He sits
Speaker 1: on this, you know, on his drove. Heaven is my throne,
Speaker 1: in Earth is my footstove? And what's his fun stop?
Speaker 1: A spinner bowl miles an hour at Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's but it changes my whole reality of the room
Speaker 1: I live in and where are they hiding from us?
Speaker 1: Are there at the lands? It is the more to
Speaker 1: be explored, you know, they say there's nothing to explore anymore.
Speaker 1: Everything's been found. And we look at you know, now
Speaker 1: we're on an infinite plane. I don't know how long
Speaker 1: it goes. It goes, but there could be more lands
Speaker 1: that we're not told about that we could be you know,
Speaker 1: there could be other people or other civilizations, you know.
Speaker 1: And I look at it my reality and where I
Speaker 1: live now, and it was a whole different viewpoint. Whereas
Speaker 1: you know, I talk to my friends and everything. They
Speaker 1: still believe they're on a blue ball spinning around, and
Speaker 1: it's like some of them don't care. They never say
Speaker 1: to you, well, I still got to get up and
Speaker 1: go to work in the moment.
Speaker 3: Yes, you hear that a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, and it's like, yeah, but you will lie
Speaker 1: to all that time. It's the lie even lie to
Speaker 1: and what else are they lying to you about? You know,
Speaker 1: you know that they know that what's going on at
Speaker 1: the North Pole. You know, we had this the final
Speaker 1: experiment thing there with this son. You know, that's funny
Speaker 1: because about two years ago I worked for this lady.
Speaker 1: She has a farm, the table thing in the summer time,
Speaker 1: and she was going away on vacation and she hired
Speaker 1: this lady to come in and take care of her
Speaker 1: pets while she was going. And she hem, all, she's
Speaker 1: talking to the lady I'm market with, and I'm there
Speaker 1: and I'm listening to the comp and she started talking
Speaker 1: about her vacations. This dog set up and she said,
Speaker 1: I went to the Antarctic and it piqued my interest.
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about flat Earth, nothing and nothing,
Speaker 1: and it piqued my internet. So I got I asked her,
Speaker 1: So how much did it cost you to go? She
Speaker 1: goes about, and I think it was like twenty five
Speaker 1: to thirty thousand dollars. So what time of the year
Speaker 1: did you go? Around December? She goes, Yeah, we went
Speaker 1: down to December twenty fifth or something like that, and
Speaker 1: it was around you know, when it's warm down there,
Speaker 1: and I asked her, is it daylight? Is is it
Speaker 1: daylight twenty four and she said yes, And I didn't
Speaker 1: say anything else and she said yes, So I got
Speaker 1: an honest answer. She said yes. So one of those
Speaker 1: guys were down there doing the whole thing. I kind
Speaker 1: of figured they're going to have see you know, that
Speaker 1: the sun that there is daylight. I don't know about
Speaker 1: the sun setting or not, because I didn't really ask that,
Speaker 1: did you see the sun setting? Up right? She said
Speaker 1: that there was daylight twenty four hours now then, and
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to question nothing. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. There's got to be a way that there
Speaker 1: is twenty you know, there's daylight twenty four to seven
Speaker 1: for that certain time of the year. And you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just you know, I just knew that when those
Speaker 1: guys were down there doing that experiment, that they're going
Speaker 1: to see you know, daylight. Uh yeah, but you don't
Speaker 1: know how the son works. And I listened to a
Speaker 1: Crow Trickle seven radio and I don't know if.
Speaker 3: You ever listened to him, Yeah, I have before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's he's big into the second son thing.
Speaker 1: He's got videos there on YouTube and he has a
Speaker 1: video that he had taken and he had another son
Speaker 1: in his camera. He had one of these, you know,
Speaker 1: probably a thirty thousand dollars telescope that he's using. But
Speaker 1: he got another object that he thought was lens flair.
Speaker 1: But he tested it and tested and tested it, and
Speaker 1: I come out that it wasn't Glen's flair. It was
Speaker 1: another something and behind the sun. And he seems to
Speaker 1: think that the Mastercot logo.
Speaker 3: So there, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have heard that one.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, but yeah, but that you know, it's maybe
Speaker 1: it's reflection off of the firmament of the real son.
Speaker 1: You're not the scripture sent but.
Speaker 3: Two great lights, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the firmament, not one light.
Speaker 6: And a reflect that's right, two great one lights and
Speaker 6: one was a lesser light.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And so whether that's the source of the sun,
Speaker 1: that the object he saw, you know, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: It wasn't only him either, there was several other people
Speaker 1: that he references references video. That's I think it was
Speaker 1: NASA or some kind of space research group had it
Speaker 1: and they were filling the sung through a telescope and stuff,
Speaker 1: and they found another object and they couldn't get it
Speaker 1: out of it, and they and he seems to think
Speaker 1: that that object was the second son. Yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 1: interesting to you know, look at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what the frustrating thing is.
Speaker 6: It's a shame that the people who run this room
Speaker 6: have to be so deceitful, because imagine if we did
Speaker 6: have the knowledge of how this now. I don't believe
Speaker 6: that they know how everything works, and I think God's
Speaker 6: pretty clear about that. We're not going to have the
Speaker 6: same knowledge of God. But I think that they do
Speaker 6: understand a lot more how things truly work, and they
Speaker 6: keep that from us. Not only do they keep it
Speaker 6: from us, they lie out a lot of things. For instance,
Speaker 6: you know, I've mentioned this a thousand times, but things
Speaker 6: like weed. You know, dandelion is a weed, singing nettle
Speaker 6: is a need you got to spray with your carcinogen
Speaker 6: to kill it, you know, and all the natural remedies
Speaker 6: that we we spray with cancer causing agents, uh, and
Speaker 6: the whole you know, medical industrial complex and all those
Speaker 6: other things. But it's just a shame that we can't
Speaker 6: we don't have the ability to, like for you and
Speaker 6: I to say, hey, we're going to Antarctica because of
Speaker 6: governments have taken over and done their own treaties all
Speaker 6: of that to keep the truth from us.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever read that Higher Republic book.
Speaker 6: I've kind of sorted through it, but it's been a few.
Speaker 1: Years where I was like, you know, the whole.
Speaker 3: And all that, the land on the other side of
Speaker 3: the ice wall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the side of the ice ball. You know,
Speaker 1: it was what in the eighteen nineties it was publishing.
Speaker 3: Like the Florida Journal or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but you know they did mention
Speaker 1: the ice ball in there.
Speaker 3: That's right, and two points from for Team Flat Earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But so with Captain Cook was at the explorer
Speaker 1: that tried to circumnavigate the Antarctic and he was at
Speaker 1: thirty sixty thousand nauticle miles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, three and a half years, sixty thousand miles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he come up short and it's like something's
Speaker 1: wrong here. And even when he was trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: his coordinates was always off because I think the logitude
Speaker 1: of the latitude lines that he was given as the
Speaker 1: lineing up down in the uh, the southern hemisphere. But
Speaker 1: that's an interesting, you know study, uh you know, stuff
Speaker 1: like even the animal bird. Some of that stuff is
Speaker 1: diaries could be questioned. Whoever, that's a reality and I
Speaker 1: agree with that. But you know, he did explore the
Speaker 1: the Antarctic there and that was another thing. The whole
Speaker 1: was the Operation High Jumped, the last one he went
Speaker 1: on where they came back with details. Bet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they lost a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was like, you know, going back to
Speaker 1: World War two or Nazi Germany did did aid up
Speaker 1: and rarely commit suicide. It was the story we was told.
Speaker 1: They said there was like a half a dozen gym
Speaker 1: and U boats that went missing, and he had this
Speaker 1: place down in the Antarctic called New schwab Land set
Speaker 1: up down there, and you know, the German technology was
Speaker 1: far more advanced than the rest of the world at
Speaker 1: the time, and you know, he probably had stuff that
Speaker 1: you know, we never even knew existed. And you know,
Speaker 1: could he have gone down there and escaped? And you know,
Speaker 1: able bread goes down there, it runs the it's nest
Speaker 1: and it's it's pretty interesting. You know, you just can't
Speaker 1: go down there. That's the thing. I wish that we
Speaker 1: could go down there and explore as somebody could you know,
Speaker 1: they had the resources to go down there and just explore.
Speaker 1: But now it's off limits. You got the treaty and
Speaker 1: even to not polls off limits. Who's to say that
Speaker 1: you know this whole I've been listening the whole little season.
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned it one of your podcasts ye
Speaker 1: Zayton Short Season. That's pretty interesting. I've never heard that
Speaker 1: until about maybe far or five months ago. And you know,
Speaker 1: when Jesus is talking to his disciples in Matthew sixteen,
Speaker 1: it was at sixteen twenty eight, they said, some of
Speaker 1: you standing here will not see death until these things happen, right.
Speaker 1: You know, I must have read that a hundred times,
Speaker 1: and I probably got an explanation.
Speaker 3: For that, just like Genesis one and the Firmament, same
Speaker 3: thing and so.
Speaker 1: And he also said that to Nathaniel when he first
Speaker 1: called Nathaniel, you know, and you still see the Son
Speaker 1: of Man coming with his angels. And the history that
Speaker 1: we've been taught, you know, from the time of Christ
Speaker 1: to the present. The timeline it's the Dark Ages, is
Speaker 1: very vague and wasn't manipulated, was you know, was years
Speaker 1: added to it? Are we in Sintan's Little Season? Because
Speaker 1: the Bible says that after a thousand years, for a
Speaker 1: little while, and he will for a short season go
Speaker 1: out and deceive the nations. And I'm telling you right
Speaker 1: now a lot of people are being in the sea
Speaker 1: a big time, and even the Church could be deceived.
Speaker 1: You know, if you don't have your.
Speaker 3: Ad tennis up in it, you better believe that.
Speaker 1: And it's like that whole it's pretty interesting stuff. It
Speaker 1: takes the whole eschatology thing and changes the whole. It's
Speaker 1: not really full preadtorist, if you know what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about with prediism. It's not really full preadism, but it's
Speaker 1: you know, something like preadirism, where most of the Book
Speaker 1: of Revelation has already been play out. Yeah yeah, And
Speaker 1: you know, I've never I never knew about five It
Speaker 1: was a five thirty six a d where there was
Speaker 1: eighteen months of no sunshine on the earth. You know,
Speaker 1: was that a part of the plague in the Book
Speaker 1: of Revelation? And you know, and then you have this
Speaker 1: the Tatarian mud floods, and I know, but these cities
Speaker 1: buried from a cataclysic or earthquakes. You know, if you
Speaker 1: could go back and all the old history stuff you
Speaker 1: never heard about volcanoes either, you know, volcanos is sort
Speaker 1: of like a recent thing, and and it's just like
Speaker 1: even the architecture, how did it go that stuff?
Speaker 6: Well, didn't they just come out on the news and
Speaker 6: say something about this earth shaking discovery about the pyramids
Speaker 6: that there's actually they did some kind of giant X
Speaker 6: ray for lack of better words, and they found that's
Speaker 6: actually the top of the structure, and there's a giant
Speaker 6: structure underneath of it, which goes back to what many
Speaker 6: people have been talking about. So I don't know if
Speaker 6: it's mockery, because you know, people like whether it's John
Speaker 6: Levi or my lunch breaker saying, you know that all
Speaker 6: this architecture is actually old Roman architecture that was founded
Speaker 6: and not actually created in the timeline that they actually.
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, and they put the eye in front of
Speaker 1: the first number of everything. Yeah, I've my lunch break
Speaker 1: he did. In Fall River, Massachusetts, I lived there for
Speaker 1: about five years. But there's a church, Saint Ant's Church.
Speaker 1: You can look it up. It was supposedly built in
Speaker 1: the eighteen nineties and I actually worked on that building
Speaker 1: doing slack and copper with a friend of mine and
Speaker 1: he he did that in his my lunch break. That
Speaker 1: building there, and I looked at that building and I say,
Speaker 1: how did these guys carry these big, huge blocks of
Speaker 1: granted stone and everything in the eighteen nineties. And I
Speaker 1: just if you go to like Tartan's on the other
Speaker 1: side of me, Taunton, Massachusetts, and in the middle of
Speaker 1: the Taunton Green, there's a courthouse there. You can look
Speaker 1: it up and they're actually doing the copper dome on it.
Speaker 1: And that was built in the eighteen nineties. And then
Speaker 1: the church down the street, which is a big, huge
Speaker 1: church toll that structure was built in it. What it
Speaker 1: is get all these contractors to build all this stuff
Speaker 1: at this same time. And you look at the courthouse
Speaker 1: in tott it's a beautiful structure. And I looked at
Speaker 1: old buildings. There's the big post office on the side
Speaker 1: of it, and there was another post office building prior
Speaker 1: to it. Beautiful architecture. It's it's it's you can't you
Speaker 1: can't replicate it now nowadays. Never mind, you know, those
Speaker 1: people were building and they didn't have power tools.
Speaker 6: Everything was tricking mortar hand tools. It's amazing the stricture,
Speaker 6: the structures that were built. Uh, and today it's just
Speaker 6: it's concrete, jungles, metal steel, very unattractive and for the
Speaker 6: most part, in my eyes.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And I look, yeah, I look at that,
Speaker 1: and I say, there's something wrong with the timeline. They're
Speaker 1: I've giving us the right narrative. I mean, my lunch break.
Speaker 1: That guy, he's awesome. I I agree, he does some
Speaker 1: good research. And you know, and there's a I'm on
Speaker 1: the Taunton River which flows in it's a tidal river,
Speaker 1: and on the river there's a rock there. It's called
Speaker 1: the Dighton Rock. And on this rock there's hieroglyphics and
Speaker 1: writings on it that they do not know how it
Speaker 1: got there, who wrote it and how it got there.
Speaker 1: They speculated could have been the Portuguese, because the Portuguese
Speaker 1: were travelers, you know, back in the day. Or they
Speaker 1: could say it's al Gonquin because of the you know,
Speaker 1: the walponax but the walking X. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: they had, you know, they wrote or not, but I
Speaker 1: know that John Elliott, they're in the sixteen hundreds, there
Speaker 1: was writing a translation of the Bible in Algonquin and
Speaker 1: that all got blown off. The window in the King's philipoor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was sort of flabb I guess the whole how
Speaker 1: that whole thing went down. But that Dighton Rock. You
Speaker 1: look up Dighton Rock and you can see there's plenty
Speaker 1: of websites on it. It has all these hieroglyphics and
Speaker 1: stuff on it, and they don't know where it came
Speaker 1: from who put it on. There is pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's called the Dighton Rock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, DGHS.
Speaker 6: Forty Ton Boulder, originally located in the riverbed of the
Speaker 6: Taunton River Roca is noted for petroglyphs primarily okay, so yeah, hieroglyphics.
Speaker 6: In nineteen sixty three, during construction of a call for dam,
Speaker 6: state officials removed the rock for preservation and it's actually
Speaker 6: listed on the National Register of Historic Places.
Speaker 3: Man, that is interesting. Look at that writing on it.
Speaker 3: That is some ancient writing on it. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 6: And that picture that they show is actually from eighteen
Speaker 6: ninety three.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting. I'll put that in the show notes
Speaker 3: so people can find that.
Speaker 1: So I live on that river, okay, and when I
Speaker 1: moved here twenty years ago, the people that owned the house,
Speaker 1: the guy lives next door was his parents' house. And
Speaker 1: he had told me that back in nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy that Mard Island College came on my property
Speaker 1: here at that time, and they did an archaeological dig
Speaker 1: and they, you know, they found He said he used
Speaker 1: to go out in the garden and he find all
Speaker 1: arrowheads and all kinds of stuff all over the place.
Speaker 1: And they did an archaeological dig. Way up in the back.
Speaker 1: I got five acres, and way up in the back
Speaker 1: they dug up a body and it was a girl.
Speaker 1: They say it was a girl. I got a picture
Speaker 1: of it, and they have it and the girls in
Speaker 1: a fetal position when they when the Indians buried, they
Speaker 1: would bury they wouldn't lay them straight out. The body, yeah,
Speaker 1: in a fetal position, and I pointed the head to
Speaker 1: a certain direction, and uh so I started research. I'm
Speaker 1: indeearing myself on my father's side, wamping organ and some
Speaker 1: Narragansett and my mother's English. My father said we'll get
Speaker 1: back at the English she married my mother. But uh
Speaker 1: so I started doing some research on it. And that's
Speaker 1: this book called on the King's Philip Walk, called I
Speaker 1: Belove To and and in that book she is she
Speaker 1: the book is laid out where she goes to all
Speaker 1: the places world or you know, the battlefronts, and everything happened,
Speaker 1: and she logs it and she has a website that
Speaker 1: goes along with the book. It's very interesting. And she
Speaker 1: took in she has a spa on the map, and uh,
Speaker 1: of all the Indian villages they would call Indian towns
Speaker 1: Indian villages. And what the it would do is in
Speaker 1: the summertime they would migrate down to the river and
Speaker 1: spend a summer near the river, and then when the
Speaker 1: winter came they would go back up off the river
Speaker 1: and set up back there, away from the river. And
Speaker 1: she short a Indian village cat ship pascot, a chip
Speaker 1: of pascot, I'm not sure how to pronounce it. And
Speaker 1: where it was right where I live was it had
Speaker 1: the the star the mark where I live. And I said, wow,
Speaker 1: because I know down up the river there was another
Speaker 1: Indian town called Segagansett, and then down the river there
Speaker 1: was another Indian town called a Sonic in which plymar
Speaker 1: colonists wanted that land big time because it was fertile
Speaker 1: for for for farming, and they wanted that big time,
Speaker 1: and they were trying to steal it from She was
Speaker 1: an Indian princess called weed them mountain and they actually
Speaker 1: killed her. It's a shame, and but yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of the King's Folk War happened great where I was
Speaker 1: right where I live now, a up the street. There's
Speaker 1: a monument up the street from me, about a quarter
Speaker 1: mile and there was a guy there on the King's
Speaker 1: Poet Wark and his wife and they were told there's
Speaker 1: a walk going on and you got to go to
Speaker 1: the fort in Towton and or else you're going to
Speaker 1: be attacked. And they got him and his wife and
Speaker 1: his dog. Got halfway to Taunton and his wife told
Speaker 1: him to go back get something from the house and
Speaker 1: either way back. I don't know if he made back
Speaker 1: to his house, but anyways, he said the Indians and
Speaker 1: he climbed up a tree and his dog was at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the tree looking up, and he shot
Speaker 1: him under the tree. And there's a memorial right there.
Speaker 1: His name was Bobbin Wow. Memorial had the kingsmell bar
Speaker 1: right there. A lot of that history.
Speaker 6: Yeah, up and down the northeast here we got we've
Speaker 6: got homes going back to the mid sixteen hundreds, I
Speaker 6: think that was it. The brick house, the blockhouse in Claymont, Delaware.
Speaker 6: That's the official oldest house here in Delaware, goes back
Speaker 6: to sixteen fifty four. I think two miles from where
Speaker 6: I grew up, there's a house that's a place where
Speaker 6: Washington spent the night. And of course, and then again
Speaker 6: it goes full circle. How much of our history is
Speaker 6: real is not? Was the Founding Fathers really just a
Speaker 6: British trick to get the to get the colonials under
Speaker 6: their thumb. There's a lot of ways we can talk.
Speaker 6: We're actually down to the last few minutes, so I
Speaker 6: start winding down. But if there's anything that you wanted
Speaker 6: to touch on before we leave, now'd be a great
Speaker 6: time to do so.
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I would say that, you know,
Speaker 1: people should, you know, keep their antennas up, always be
Speaker 1: studying and researching, and you know, and keep there. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say, keep their mind open, so they
Speaker 1: but be discerned. And you know, because we live in
Speaker 1: a time right now where you know things are going
Speaker 1: fast and you know you got to you know, be
Speaker 1: all prayed up, be all uh you all, you know,
Speaker 1: right with God, and and just looked at him for
Speaker 1: discernment and understand it, you know, and just keep the
Speaker 1: truth and you know, always get the gospel too. Don't
Speaker 1: be ashamed of the gospel. It's the power of God
Speaker 1: unto salvation. And you know, and then if you have
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to them about flatter I talked
Speaker 1: to him about that too. Man. You know, the round
Speaker 1: you live in, it's a big thing, you know, And
Speaker 1: he's coming and it's just a matter of you know,
Speaker 1: I take you send a short time. But you know
Speaker 1: when I first could save, you know, the HULD come anytime. Now.
Speaker 1: I really didn't believe in the rapture anymore, but but
Speaker 1: you know the way it's portrayed, you know, the way
Speaker 1: I was taught, the dispensational at you know, there's a
Speaker 1: big party going on in heaven. But anyways, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: keep keep your hands on the plow and and don't
Speaker 1: look back and bedividuant because you never know, you never know.
Speaker 6: That's a great point, don't look back, because I know
Speaker 6: a lot of us meet each other up over maybe
Speaker 6: the choices or decisions we've made in our life, and
Speaker 6: we can't change that. But we can change the future,
Speaker 6: and we can change people's lives. That's powerful, Like we
Speaker 6: have the ability.
Speaker 3: To change people's lives.
Speaker 6: And you know, sitting here having this conversation talking about
Speaker 6: things that people will never have come across if they
Speaker 6: spent ten thousand hours on Fox News or MSNBC or
Speaker 6: their local radio stations.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that we're right about everything. I
Speaker 6: know one thing we're right about is you know, God
Speaker 6: is real. God created this. This didn't happen by accident,
Speaker 6: and we are all here. Jesus died on the cross
Speaker 6: for your sins and we're here in this timeline because
Speaker 6: he knew we could handle it, and he put his
Speaker 6: you know, God's warriors on this plane at this time
Speaker 6: to share the truth, and of course the most important
Speaker 6: truth is the Gospel of Jesus, but also to shine
Speaker 6: a light on Satan's deception. And I think this is
Speaker 6: part of a great awakening because the conversation we're having
Speaker 6: today is tenfold what it was just ten years ago.
Speaker 6: I firmly believe that, Andrew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely. It's it is, it is, And things
Speaker 1: have changed since I became a Christian and the whole
Speaker 1: you know, you're even looking at the church. You know,
Speaker 1: the church is not what it was, you know back
Speaker 1: when I first got saved here. It's even the way
Speaker 1: back in the sixties. It's totally changed from you know,
Speaker 1: when I grew up. And it's like you look at
Speaker 1: the church and you do I want to listen to
Speaker 1: that guy? Do I? You know? Is he Bonafie? You know,
Speaker 1: you always have these high profile preaches, you know, as
Speaker 1: you tell evangelist, and I don't listen to them anymore.
Speaker 1: I really don't. I just I just you know, when
Speaker 1: you I'm not a big fan of big churches. I
Speaker 1: went to one big church for about five years and
Speaker 1: then after that I'm comfortable with and know congregation of
Speaker 1: that's small and and is it a three thousand member
Speaker 1: church really biblical? You know? Is it? You know we
Speaker 1: called all right out and you know, set churches all
Speaker 1: over the place instead of having this one big under
Speaker 1: one guy, and you know, and they sort of deified
Speaker 1: the pastor in a sense, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: and I you know what happened, Uh, Robbie Sacharias As,
Speaker 1: Like I really like that guy, you know, I justed
Speaker 1: a lesson to him. I actually went and seen him
Speaker 1: speak the day that Mother Chorice die. I saw him
Speaker 1: out at the KP preach. And then when he died
Speaker 1: and all this stuff came out, was like, wow, be
Speaker 1: capful who you listen to, you know, be capful. You
Speaker 1: don't know Pish and I all a guy was saved.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's it's heartbreaking. And there was another church
Speaker 6: in Texas. This just happened. And one thing we have
Speaker 6: to realize is that every pastor is human and they
Speaker 6: put on their pants just like you and I, and
Speaker 6: they have the same flaws as you and I. So
Speaker 6: there were a few pastors I think extremely higher of,
Speaker 6: and every now and then I have to remember that
Speaker 6: he is not perfect, and he is flawed and makes
Speaker 6: the same mistakes as you. That Now, however, there are
Speaker 6: when when you you know, you enter a Master of
Speaker 6: Divinity program or you just simply take a non denominantly
Speaker 6: church that you start, and you step behind the pulpit,
Speaker 6: you do separate yourself that there is not sins that
Speaker 6: your congregations may make. You have to be above that,
Speaker 6: that you are beyond reproach. You can't make those mistakes
Speaker 6: and continue on as a leader. I believe that firmly.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying you don't forgive, but they can't be
Speaker 6: in a leader so they can't continue in a leadership
Speaker 6: position when they make you know, you know what mistakes
Speaker 6: I'm talking about similar to what you know they they
Speaker 6: said Ravi Zacharias did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a higher calling. So if you want to
Speaker 1: take that higher calling, I mean it's like you have
Speaker 1: to set yourself got a higher standard and and and
Speaker 1: live by that standard. And we should all live by
Speaker 1: that standard. Anyways, even that for not call that.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I agree.
Speaker 6: And in as world, our government leaders would be held
Speaker 6: to the saying acountability, but they play by the different rules.
Speaker 6: They can do whatever they want and get away with it.
Speaker 6: But unfortunately that's not how it works.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, Andrew, I've had a wonderful conversation with you,
Speaker 3: and you know, consider coming back on down the road.
Speaker 6: You really brought a lot to the table and a
Speaker 6: lot of new information. One last thing I'd like to mention.
Speaker 6: I kind of always get confused and the order these
Speaker 6: podcasts go out, But somebody interviewed recently, you know, we
Speaker 6: were talking about the Tartarians, a book everybody should take
Speaker 6: the time to check out. It is about forty bucks,
Speaker 6: but it's called One World Tartarians, the greatest civilization ever
Speaker 6: erased from history. It's written by James Lee, and this
Speaker 6: guy sold a lot of books. He's got about eleven hundred,
Speaker 6: about four point six. And listen, trust me from somebody
Speaker 6: who's had podcast for many years, you're gonna have people
Speaker 6: who just give you one star because you know you sneezed.
Speaker 6: But this book is really good. He wrote it during
Speaker 6: the scamdemic, as I call it. It came out I
Speaker 6: think it came out in twenty twenty, and it's I
Speaker 6: think it's one of the better books that really lays
Speaker 6: down Tartaria and how they basically erased them from history.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can you talk to people you know you ever
Speaker 1: hear about the Titarian Empire? Nope, no, No, nobody's never
Speaker 1: heard of it. I've never heard of that before, and
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, that's where it's controlled. You know, the
Speaker 1: Rock and Throller history books. But they give you yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll get that book definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And to the listeners, I am putting that in the
Speaker 6: show notes as we speak. So check it out and again, Andrew,
Speaker 6: thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: God bless you, and thank you. Thank you so much
Speaker 6: for sharing your knowledge. And by the way, Andrew, did
Speaker 6: we have his email address in the show notes if
Speaker 6: you'd like to reach out to them to say hello
Speaker 6: or to ask some questions or further talk about some
Speaker 6: of the things we talked about tonight. So, Andrew, God
Speaker 6: bless you, Thank you again for your time. And to
Speaker 6: the listeners, thank you, God bless you all. And keep
Speaker 6: your head on a swivel. And until we meet again,
Speaker 6: my friends, we will see.
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