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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, It's me Stephanie Wilder Taylor. This is Drunkish. Look,

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I'm trying to change up this intro, make it a

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little bit less boring, but you know what it is.

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It's based on my book Drunkish, where I told my

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sobriety story, and now I'm letting other people tell their

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stories and do me a favor. Watch this on YouTube

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if you want. It's under Drunkish podcast and subscribe on YouTube.

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It will really help me out. And why not give

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the podcast five stars or four? Just don't go below that,

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you know, don't be that way anyway. I hope it

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helps hearing other people's stories. And today I'm very excited.

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I have a friend of mine. Her name is Danielle Mercier.

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Her story is pretty incredible. She tells it with just

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brutal honesty and it's funny. She's hilarious and charming and warm.

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And I've known her for a really long time and

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I know you're going to enjoy it. And I am

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here with my friend Danielle, who just took off her dahmers.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I can't see it. I did have to put

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them back on.

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Speaker 1: We're you just trying to like, look like, you don't

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need glasses.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to look less murderous. Yes, they're not murdery.

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Speaker 1: They're so not murdery glasses. Danielle knows that I have

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my I don't wear them ever on this show because

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I can't see my computer with my Jeffrey Dahmer glasses.

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But they are I love what they are. These and

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my kids them are merciless with me. They're just like, no,

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get some cuter glasses. And I'm like, these are not cute.

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There's seventies a tip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm might there would be super groovy.

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Speaker 1: Really all right, Danielle, I've known you for a long time.

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You've been how how long have you been sober?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: A long time longer than me.

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Speaker 2: This August eighteenth, it will be twenty years. Wow, how

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does that happen?

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Speaker 1: You look like you're fourteen, So that doesn't seem that

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doesn't seem real.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do the math.

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Speaker 1: Take me back, because I know some of the stories

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from like just take just take me all the way back,

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take me through it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you see, I was a port and I'm

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just kidding. I grew up in Cape pod Oh, I

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grew up in Plymouth, which is on the way to

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Cape Pod actually, and I grew up. My dad left

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when I was five, and it would just be my

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mom and my sister. My dad was an alcoholic, and

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I think I had a really great childhood. I loved it.

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We were really I don't want to say we were

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really poor, but we were pretty poor. But my grandparents

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lived across the street and they like took care of us,

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you know. It's they were the village, you know, And

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so we didn't really go without anything, but we didn't

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have any frills, that's for sure. And my mom was

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really bitter about the fact that my dad left, you know,

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and I got that a lot throughout my childhood. So

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so it was kind of like you and your sister

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have to be my other half, you know, right from

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the get go. You know, you know, ten, you better

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go get a job and start earning that type of thing,

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you know. And so I got my first job when

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I was thirteen. I was working for a pizza shop

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and it was owned by the mob and my grandmother

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worked for their hair salon that they also own. They

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owned like maybe like eight or nine different things in

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the town. And they they got me a job under

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the table, you know, because I was too young and

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I'll never forget. One day, I was cutting tomatoes in

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the corner of the of the shop and a bunch

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of the guys came running in with big, huge, heavy

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black trash bags, and I was like, what's happening, what's up?

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When they started screaming at me, you don't see anything,

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you don't say anything, I was like, OK. I just

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kept chopping tomatoes. And later on in the afternoon they

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came up to me with one hundred dollars bill and

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they said, you don't see anything, right, said, I didn't

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see anything, and they gave me a hundred dollar bill,

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and I was kind of like my paychecks always went

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to my mom. That hundred dollar bill was mine, and

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it was kind of like the first like sneaky thing

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that I ever got away with that. I was like, oh,

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my own thing and the excitement that lent with I

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guess badnessish. So I had that. And then about fifteen,

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I had my first drink. And we used to go

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out and drink in cranberry bogs in the woods. So

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you'd like go out in some guy this you know,

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truck or something and go mudding and bring out a

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big keg and drink your boons farm or drink your

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kegs or drink whatever, and drink everything you could possibly drink,

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you know, that type of bank until you got wasted.

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At least That's how I always always always drank. It

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was like ready go, and it was like just drink,

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just get as much in as you can right from

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a Nobody ever said that you were supposed to drink differently,

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you know, And every time we drink, I'd get wasted,

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and I would be the humorous life of the party.

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I loved being the cute drunk girl. I like making

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out with everybody. I liked same. That was my specialty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime. I'm fifteen, when I first started kissing boys,

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as soon as I got drunk, I would sometimes make

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out with like three guys in a.

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Speaker 2: Night, for sure. I remember somebody saying to me really

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early on, like, hey, if you want to have a

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fun party, and by Danielle to it, and I took

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that as the biggest compliment ever, Like I don't know

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if that was meant to be a compliment or if

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it was mentally an insult. But I took it as Oh,

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I get that, I got to fix my lady. Yeah sorry,

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So I took that as a big compliment. It was

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intended to be. I don't know. So I drank and

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drank and drank. I kept drinking, and it was just

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always like, oh, there's a big party this weekend. I

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don't want to blame it on the East Coast, but

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when I was living on the East Coast is me.

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I was living on the East Coast, it was very

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much where everything was centered around alcohol. We're going to

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go to this party, we need to get drunk. I

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was a huge concert person. I've always been a huge

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concert person. Getting fucked up and oh am I allowed

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to swear? Yeah sorry, I start it. Oh okay, I

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love it. We we had to get fucked up before

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we went. You know, we'd go out into the parking

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lots and you know, get wasted in the parking lots

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and and you know, make out with as many people

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or tease as many people as we could and just

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it was really really really fun for a while. You know.

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When I was so when I was nineteen, I got

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engaged to be mayor worried, and I thought this is

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not for me. And every night we'd go to bed,

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and we lived above a barn, and every night i'd say,

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you know, I want more from my life, and my

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fiance would say to me, ah, shut up, ghostleep, and

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I come. And every ed probably did this for a

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good three months, and every night he'd say the same thing,

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and it was just like another stitch in my side,

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another stitch in my side. And you know, I never

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ever have seen healthy relationships. My dad left when I

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was really young. My grandparents just seemed like they were roommates.

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I didn't know anybody in good, loving, long, healthy like relationship.

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So I always went to the guy who kind of

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just said they were interested in me, like, hey, Danielle's hot, okay,

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And I just went there, right oh, They all right,

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all right, if you want me, you can have me.

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And I thought very little of myself, but I also

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thought I was like the catch me out. You know,

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So I'm living with this guy. Three months in she says,

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you know, he says to me, shut up, go to

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sleep every night. And then one day my sister had

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a U haul and I went come pick me up. Tonight.

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She goes, Oh my god, what happened? I said, nothing yet,

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but I'm going and a Tit got a fight, you know,

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I picked a fight and I moved out. And from

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that point, from nineteen to twenty one, I moved in

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with my mom and my sister and just didn't haunt him,

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know I what to do? I remember I did send

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in a tape for the real world during that really

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wasted and I would love to see that videotape. You

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wouldn't it right in on anybody? Oh? Yeah, yeah, really wasted?

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Check like you know. Anyway, I didn't get chosen, but

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I did decide I wanted to become an actress. And

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I was twenty one and I was waitressing at a

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bar in Weymouth, Massachusetts, on the way up to Boston,

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and I was cocktail waitressing and some guy left a

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sign on the time o'clock that said, Hey, moving to

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Las Vegas. If everybody wants to come check me out?

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And I did. I was like, you know what, I

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got my tax return and I went to the travel

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agency and I used to always give my money to

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my mom, and I bought myself a ticket to go

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on vacation to Las Vegas. My mom was so pissed off,

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so pissed, but I was like, I'm just I want

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to go see the world. I want to go have fun.

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to Las Vegas and was absolutely wasted the whole time.

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I slept with every roommate in the house. My friend

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who I stayed with was so angry at me, but

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I just thought, like I thought of myself as payment.

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It was always like a payment, you know what I mean, Like, well,

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this person was really nice to me and brought me

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around all day long. I mean, they deserve something as

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well be me, Like, I'll give them me no biggie, right,

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it was always hitting my moral fiber. It was just

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like more and more of just like oh well, oh well,

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that's just what happens when I drank, Like, oh well,

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you're mad at me, you'll get over it. So I

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get back from this trip and I came to my

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mom and I said, listen, I'm moving to Las Vegas

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at twenty one, and she goes, wait what And three

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months later she said I was ready to go, and

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she her and my sister sat me down and said,

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do you mind if we come with you? And I

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was like first mad and then so thrilled that they came.

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It was actually the best trip of my whole life,

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and I've been on a lot of trips my whole life.

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We drove cross country the three of us, which is

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like a national Lampoon's vacation trip. It was like crazy,

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ceilings fell in in the hotels and like just insanity people,

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the people we met. We got a flat tire, I'm

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sitting the homeless people. It was just it was crazy anyway.

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And oh, my sister's driving this massive truck, my mom's

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driving like two drugged cats, and I'm smoking weed the

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whole way in my car cross country, like the whole way,

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just jamming out to music and smoking weed because they

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thought I wasn't responsible enough, you know, but I was

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always playing not card so I could not have to

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do anything. You know. Yeah, just seems smarter to me.

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Speaker 1: Was your mom and sister going to move to Las Vegas?

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Speaker 2: Have they decided No? They said, we've got nothing going

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on here. Do you mind if we come and live

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out with you. And I was like mad at first,

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and they said no, let's so we started our life

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in Las Vegas. From Plymouth, Massachusetts, in the same America's hometown,

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totally America's hometown, to Sin City. The culture shock I

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got when I got to Las Vegas was eazy I had.

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I had had a degree in retail like fashion merchandising,

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which I always told people I had a degree in

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fashion design because I thought it was better because I

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was never enough, you know, I had to be bigger

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and better. But it was for merchandising. So now everyone knows.

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And I heard it all myself. Dang it breaking news.

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So uh, I went, can.

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Speaker 1: We adjust your things so that you're always looking at

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it at all?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: That's much better?

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Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, Yeah, okay, sorry, that's fine. Sorry. I'm really

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bad at angles meetings and I like sit, like laying

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down and like. So I got a job at Beattie

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and I didn't know what be was still that store, Yeah,

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everybody loved that store. I just thought as like, oh,

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there's a store and it's girls clothing, and I'll go

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see if I can get a job. Well, I became

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a local celebrity in Las Vegas because Biebe was like

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the bomb apparently, and I had no clue and they

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were just opening this brand new store. And now I'm

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a big fat liar. I tell people what they want

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to hear. I had originally said to the gal who

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was giving me the job, Hey, I was engaged, but

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he's no longer with me, and she goes, he died. Yeah, yep, yep, yep,

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he died. And she was like, oh, so this whole

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time I was working at Beatie, I was like a

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widow or something, a thing they're sinking and I was

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like what. Anyway, I got a great job there, but

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my and I got to know everybody, but everybody gave

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me perks, drugs, drinks out like I didn't at least

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always say don't break stride, don't break stride, and we

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just get right in right away. And I had never

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even been really in a bar, you know. At twenty one,

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I moved to Las Vegas, so I every time I

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went out, got wasted every time. Then for a while

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there was a guy selling ecstasy and because I worked

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at bed and he knew that I was dealing with

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all of the gals in town. He would give me drugs,

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and for a bit I was like, this is fabulous,

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this is great, you know, like it's fatuous. And so

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I started doing a lot, a lot of ecstasy. I

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mean just a lot of ecstasy. And I decided, well,

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I wanted to be an actress, right, So I moved

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to Las Vegas, which nobody ever does, but I did,

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thinking it was less evil than La crazy, and so

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I did. I got my SAG and I got my AFTRA.

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One thing about me is when I decided just to

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do something, I just do it right. So I got

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my SAG and I got my after and I did

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my due diligence here in Vegas, and I moved to LA.

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And when I moved to La, I was ready to go.

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I was ready to act. And they transferred me to

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the dB in in LA at the Beverly Center, and

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which was a trip. I good stories there too, the

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one in La. Let's see moving to La ninety nine

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to two thousand, Yeah, it was. It was crazy. I

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saw Nicole Richie's like mom and her stepmom and like

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this this fight at baby. Like I met Vin Diesel

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and went to an award show with him that night,

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like one night from there, like just the Beverly Center

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was a trip back then it just fun. So anyway,

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I moved to LA and decide I want to be

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an actor, and I'm in. I move here and moved

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to LA and I knew a casting director at a

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big soap opera from family, and so right away she

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got an into that and I was like, I don't

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know why people have such a hard time acting. So

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she put me on as like a ton of like

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walk ons and like extra work basically, and then she

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was like, oh, we'll give you a couple like under

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five lines or ten. I don't know what what it is.

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And so I was like okay. So one day, so

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before this, I'm still doing ecstasy with the ecstasy like

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I'm I'll get back to that one other one, but

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I'm I'm doing ecstasy. But now I don't know anybody

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in LA, and I'm like, yeah, ecstasy. So I'm muling

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it back and forth from Las Vegas to LA and

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from LA to Vegas. And he would pay me and

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he would go take your hands and do this, and

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I do this and he goes as soon as one drops,

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that's it. I'm like okay, So i'd be like like

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trying not to and I would have like a huge

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just bowl of ecstasy in my hands. Well, one day

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when I'm in La, there was a huge raid and

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he got arrested and there was no more ecstasy. Now

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I'm like, oh shit, like what am I gonna do?

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Like I need my drugs right, Like I can't just

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be just drinking, like even nobody can go drunk to work,

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but I can go hide to work. Like this made

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sense in my mind, and so then I started to

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do the invisible line that I drew in the sand.

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I started to do cocaine, and I was like, I'll

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never do gokay, and that's dirty, s grouse dirty. It

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was just fine, you know, it did the deal. So

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now I'm starting to do cocaine. Now I get a

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job doing under five lines in like this big soap opera,

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major studio. So excited that I'm there, but also really

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cocky thinking that like everybody gets jobs like this. I'm

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in like the holding tank for like extras, and I

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take out my cocaine and pour it on the table

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and start chopping up lines, and people are looking at me.

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They're like reading books and like knitting and stuff. And

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I might, you know, like, so somebody went and told

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on me and they escorted me out.

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Speaker 1: This is the best story ever. Yeah, I love a

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good fired story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, escorted me offset And you know I never was

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sent I was never asked to come back again. Now

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I'm cocktailed. No, I'm hostessing in Beverly Hills this time.

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And my boyfriend, who was also total, total alcoholic, I

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couldn't understand why I gave up my dream because I

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couldn't tell him that, you know, I was doing drugs

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at work, because that would be stupid, right, Like I

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knew that, but I couldn't say that. I was just

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like I just don't want to do it anymore. I

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just prefer to stay a hostess and like, you know,

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like this is really working for me. And so so

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now I'm like a notch lower in my mind, like

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well now what now, what are you gonna do, Danielle?

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You know, but still feeding this alcohol like and I'm

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hostess thing because I'm right next to the bar every

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day at the bar is right there, and every day

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I just go over and get a couple. You know.

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I think it was like Goodkatonics, but I think it

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was like that mandarin amandarin vodka or something a nice

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sweet cringe now thinking about that. So I would just

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drink the whole and I would only give tables to

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people who tipped me. So and everybody knew it too,

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so they would you know, it was a nice restaurant.

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So I got major kIPS, and so I could afford

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to do everything this whole time. I had a sugar daddy.

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Also because I don't know how to have a like

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a true relationship, you know, so I don't lose out

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on a lot of like financial stuff. You know, my

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house is still fine, I like, But again, my moral

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fiber is really picking hits every time, right, every time

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I feel less than, every time I feel worthless, every

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time I feel like, you know, nobody can see me.

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You know. I remember wearing sunglasses everywhere and thinking like

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nobody like I was a ghost, like nobody sees me

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walking around. I was also higher than you know, a

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kite too, But that's the heather here nor there. So

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I was of drinking, I'm doing drugs, and I don't

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know what else to do. I I just squander for

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a bit, go back and forth from Vegas. My family

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stayed in Vegas, and I went back and forth. I

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came back to Vegas. I say it was to take

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care of my dying mom, but really it was to

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hide it was a dump demographic and I was trying

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to like recapture the glory days. And all my friends

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were having babies and married and happy, and I was

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the only one here, chubby, drinking wine and reading Harry Potter, like,

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you know, it was like sad, you know, my poor

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mom's dying in the other room, and I just kind

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of was doing my own thing, you know. I moved

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back to la and I moved it back in with

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my alcoholic boyfriend. And now we're not really good at all,

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and we're doing a lot of drugs together, like a

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lot of I think. I spent most of my time

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naked in the apartment, painting the house, just high on

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cocaine and drinking as much as I could possibly drink

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and fighting with him. I sent him to the doctors

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many times. I had many, many fights with him, many

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black eyes. I had a couple miscarriages because of drugs,

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you know, just and each time again like what the fuck,

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what the fuck's wrong? You know, I'm drinking and reading

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self help books like crazy, trying to figure out what's

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the matter in my life, you know, like, I'm a

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good girl from Plymouth, Massachusetts, Like, what's the issue here?

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The blog glog? You know, I just don't understand. My

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sponsor always says that it's funny when you tell an

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alcoholic that she doesn't understands that. She h it's more

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of that she just doesn't like the answer, you know. Yeah, Like, yeah,

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so I I move in with him. It's really bad.

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We're fighting all the time. We're living on Sunset Strip,

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basically just partying and like going from party to party

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and living out of bags and just and I really

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was your typical party girl, Like I would do anything

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in a party, I would act a fool. It was

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I thought it. It was cool. Years later, I saw

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a good friend of mine and he said to me,

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I saw you out at the House of Blues the

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other night, and you had so much cocaine on your face.

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He goes that I could have gotten high off of

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the cocaine on your face. And I was like, what really,

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I was walking around like that and he's like, yeah,

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it was really sad. And I was like, like, it's

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okay for me to say I was sad, but it's

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not okay for you to say I was sad, but

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it was sad, you know, like I really thought that

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like that was my you know, my cards I was

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dealt were and that's how life was just going to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, were you like, no, I'm happy? Were you trying

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to know you weren't happy?

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Speaker 2: I was pretending I was happy. I'm a very happy face,

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so I would smile through it all. I thought I

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was a great actress. I thought I was a great

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actress because I everybody found like I was doing just fine.

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But if you talk to me for more than five minutes,

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you'd know that I was like scared and sad and

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didn't know what to do and like I had no

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aim in my life. You know, Oh, I'm gonna try

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to time on this lake. Nope, it's all outside anyway.

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So so yeah, so I'm sad and lonely, lonely, and

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I we get in a huge fight and I decide

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to move to Valencia from Studio City. And because I

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found a guy on Craigsy, you get in a huge

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fight and he was like, you have to get out

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of my house. I was like, okay, I own like

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a mattress and a few other small things, and I

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meet I find a guy on craigslist. We went and

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had sack bombs, and I thought, he's perfect, what a

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perfect roommate. Well, he's a perfect roommate for right then,

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you know what I mean. So I went out to

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Valencia and moved in with him, and for about a

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week it was fine. It was great, you know. I

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slept on my mattress on the floor. And then I

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decided to go out one night on a date and

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in Studio City. So I drove from Valencia to Studio

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City and I remember ordering so many drinks that the

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guy's card that declined, and he was like, I'm sorry,

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I just didn't know you were going to drink this much.

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And I was like what, Like, what a cheap asshole

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you are? You can't even afford to pay for my drinks?

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God like whatever. So I get up and I go

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to the bathroom, but really I walked out. I left

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him sitting there, and I went to some other bar.

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My phone's blowing up from him, probably most likely, and

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I go to a southern bar. Yeah exactly, sorry, sure,

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So she So I go to the Southern bar, I

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drink a bunch of drinks with other people, and my

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roommate calls me at the time and says to me,

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why don't you come on out to the Greens in Valencia,

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which is like an outdoor party area with this huge

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like uh like dance area and like live music and

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big bonfire outside and just it's like nice and like

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it's like a golfing area. And I was like, okay, yeah,

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get in my car. I don't remember the whole drive

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at all. I remember the next thing. I remember having

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that phone call and then giving my ID to the

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guy in Valencia. Totally wasted. I go in there, We

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do at least three or four yaeger bombs, and I'm

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partying with him and his friends, yeah or whatever. And

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I used to be famous for all the heels I wear.

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Now I wear my comfortable clerks and my orthopedic shoes,

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but I'd wear heels and you know, be as cute

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as possible because that was the only thing I ever

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had to offer, was just my ass, basically, is what

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I always thought, you know. So I get there, I'm dancing,

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and I stumble. Everybody knows it's just like drunken, wasted whatever,

472
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:48,160
And I feel a bunch of people on me and

473
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,839
they are fighting me, and I start fighting them. But

474
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:58,799
really I had fallen down so close to the fire

475
00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:05,680
that people were putting me out. Yeah, it was, but

476
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:07,559
I didn't know this at the time. At the time,

477
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,240
I just felt people on top of me on the ground,

478
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:12,160
and so I'm just beating your shit out of these

479
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,039
people and they're trying to just put me out or things.

480
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:17,640
And so they pulled me off to the side in

481
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,960
the paramedics comb and I decline any medical whatever because

482
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,680
I'm yelling and screaming and just belligerent. And they kicked

483
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,680
me out because I won't see the paramedics. So my

484
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:34,559
roommate and his couple friends take me home and I

485
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,559
remember smoking weed with them on the balcony. Now, when

486
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:43,480
I tell you what I look like like, the idea

487
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,119
of me standing on the balcony, smoke me weed with them,

488
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:51,799
just so I smoked weed with them, and then I

489
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,240
then I woke up the next morning. I didn't have

490
00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:59,279
any pants or any underwear, and there was no pants

491
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:02,559
or underwear in my home that were around, So I

492
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:05,039
don't know what happened with those three guys that were

493
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:09,799
in my house. I woke up on my only sheet,

494
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,279
on my mattress on the floor, and my body hurt

495
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:18,039
in every way you could possibly think. And I got up,

496
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,359
and I went into the bathroom and sat on the

497
00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:22,839
toilet and went to go pee and turned on the water,

498
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,960
and the water's heating up, like to take a shower.

499
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,119
And I stood up and I saw myself in the mirror,

500
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:36,680
and I was just shocked, just absolutely shocked. My hair

501
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:40,920
from here all the way over here was completely gone

502
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,200
except for a few little wisps. My eyebrow was gone,

503
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:47,359
my eyelashes were gone. My nails on this hand were

504
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,920
melted onto my hand. My earring, my silver earring was

505
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,759
like stuck to my face. My id stood in black

506
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:00,440
and everything all over me. And I had like an

507
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,119
acrylic sweater on that's like you do right, a tighter one.

508
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,759
It was burned onto my arm. Here, my underwire burned

509
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:13,240
my underneath, my my in my bra I had cuts

510
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:17,720
and bruises and purple and green bruises and dirt under

511
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,039
my nails and face and just and I was just

512
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:27,400
so demoralized. I was like, what, like I'm a good

513
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,160
girl from Plymouth, Like still again, like it's still saying this,

514
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,880
and I, uh. I got in the tub and I

515
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,599
sat on the bottom of the tub for a good

516
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:41,000
forty five minutes and just cried. And that day I

517
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:44,799
had a therapy appointment and I went to my therapist

518
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,480
and I wore I'll never forget. I wore it was

519
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,119
the short the shortest genes very possibly think of, you know,

520
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,039
like the Mudflap Girl. I had a T shirt with

521
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:56,359
the Mudflap Girl, but she had double ears, and I

522
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,680
had cut it so it hung off of my shoulders,

523
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,319
and I had put my hair offsied and like a

524
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:05,759
one ponytail, so you couldn't tell that I had fried

525
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:09,000
my whole face off. And they got in there, she goes,

526
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,480
holy shit, what happened to you? And I told her

527
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,640
and I was like, yeah, you know. She goes, no,

528
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:18,680
I don't know. And I was like, well, you know,

529
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:23,000
these things happen. She was no, they don't. This doesn't

530
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:27,599
happen to people. And I said, well, there's always consequences.

531
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,559
She goes, no, I mean there's not always consequences. I said, well,

532
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:35,680
there's always been consequences to my drinking. And so we

533
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:37,799
talked about that for a bit and then she said,

534
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:40,319
do you think you have a problem with alcohol, And

535
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:45,519
I said absolutely. Like period, It's like, well, I think

536
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,680
you know what about an AA meeting? And I talked

537
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,079
about this and that, and she gave me the phone

538
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,319
number and I walked around with it for about three

539
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:58,440
weeks and I just decided like no, no, no, no,

540
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,000
now it's not a good time. No, they're that part

541
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,480
already's coming up. No, this is that. No, I'm not ready.

542
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:09,039
The thing the reason I went is you know that

543
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:11,759
small little window that wake what opens up for you,

544
00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:18,519
you know, and uh, instead of it hitting just my moral,

545
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:26,000
you know fiber, it hit my vanity this time. And

546
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,640
that was always the only thing I had ever had

547
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,200
in my mind. Not that I'm the hottest babe there is,

548
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,960
but like that was the only card. Growing up. My

549
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,880
mom used to say, you're the pretty one and you're

550
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,960
the smart one, and I always thought I was a

551
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,160
total moron because my sister was the smart one and

552
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,279
I only had the you're the you're the pretty one

553
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,519
lean into that.

554
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: And now I feel bad because I opened up our

555
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,640
conversation by telling you you're the prettiest girl I know.

556
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:54,440
And I want to also add also the funniest you're

557
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,839
super funny and sweet and engaging and smart, very smart,

558
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,759
articulate and a good storyteller.

559
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: Already taken me good. Thank you. It's taken me about

560
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:08,920
twenty years to figure out that I'm smart. Like maybe, no,

561
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,920
I'd say about ten years. It was like I'd put

562
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,880
pop in that tape such an idiot, You're so dumb,

563
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,039
and I'm like, fuck that, no way, and I just

564
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,039
pop back out the tape and be like, I'm not dumb.

565
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:25,360
I'm a smarty I've no so but thank you. Nowadays,

566
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,639
now being my age, I'm like, I'll take any time

567
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:29,639
somebody wants to say I'm pretty, so I'll take it.

568
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,079
U So I go to my first meeting. I decided

569
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:40,840
to go to a meeting. It's in Valencia, and I

570
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,920
remember I sat outside what felt like forever. It was

571
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,559
probably like five or ten minutes, but it felt like forever.

572
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:49,239
And this old bitty opened the door and she said, hey,

573
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,320
you gonna sit there forever. You're you gonna come in,

574
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,119
and I was like yeah, like and I walked in

575
00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:00,920
and because I'm so selfish and self centered and you

576
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,280
know whatever, I walked in and I really thought it

577
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,159
was like we're going to read the twelve Steps, Danielle,

578
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,519
We're gonna read rarely how it works, Danielle. Like everything

579
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:16,199
seemed like, yes, this was for me. I was soaking

580
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,440
it in like a sponge. I loved it all, every

581
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,639
word of it. I was in cook Line and Sinker.

582
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:26,000
I was like, these are my people. They are my people.

583
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:29,239
They were the weirdest group of like you know, degenerates,

584
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,000
and I loved every bit of it. Right. I just

585
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:35,480
was like, yep, yep, I'm one of you guys. I

586
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:39,320
went to meetings, I did the deal, I sponsored, you know,

587
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,519
I got a sponsor. I got a sponsor. Three months

588
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:49,360
in my mom died. No, six months in, my mom dies.

589
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,920
But three months in I go to go do my

590
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,440
fourth step, my fifth step with her, like we're talking

591
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,400
and this, and then she goes, I have to tell

592
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,159
you something real quick. I have a crush on you.

593
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,840
I'm oh. I was so mad, so mad. She's like,

594
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,519
I don't want you to tell me all your deepest,

595
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:09,840
darkest because I just don't think i'd be right. And

596
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,039
I was like so angry at her that like, how

597
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,559
dare you do this to me? You know? But anyway,

598
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,400
I just realized there was a light behind me, who

599
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:29,840
whatever you need, honey, whatever you need, go ahead, that's fine. Sorry,

600
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:36,920
that's momming. Oh so uh, I'm so mad at this

601
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,920
right and I was like, okay, well, I guess you're

602
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,840
not gonna be my sponsor anymore. So from well four months,

603
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,800
what a betrayal.

604
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:48,119
Speaker 1: That's horrible, it is, but.

605
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:50,559
Speaker 2: Ill, like, I mean, I'm so glad she said something

606
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,000
to me right away. But also I was still mad, right,

607
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:57,519
but like, come on, like whatever, So now I had

608
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:01,840
no sponsor. My mom passes away three months later, and

609
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:08,079
I am just like broken, just broken, and I you know,

610
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,400
I was the person who had to put together all

611
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,840
of her stuff for her, do everything, pay for it,

612
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,119
like but that's the whole every just get your shit

613
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:18,760
together and like stuff away your feelings. And I did that.

614
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,840
But during that time I smoked some weed and didn't

615
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,480
say anything to anybody for the next like maybe six months.

616
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,760
I don't know the exact time. Think we shaved the

617
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,840
year off, but we'll say we'll say a year. I

618
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,639
smoked weed about five or six times. Just I remember

619
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:38,440
smoking weed and my friends going this is okay, because

620
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,320
they were all like normanies, and I'm like, yeah, it's

621
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,360
all good. I have a problem without fouls, so it's

622
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,519
totally fine. I'm like, okay and so and we all knew,

623
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,559
we all knew, they knew, and I showed up. I

624
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:58,320
moved back to Studio City, where I loved, and I

625
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,480
came to the Not Saints meeting and I came to

626
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:07,239
take a cake for one year Dickens, and I broke

627
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,000
down in front of everybody. I said, I have a

628
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:13,360
year's sobriety. I have no sponsor and my mom just

629
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,199
died and I don't know what to do. And you

630
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,559
know how many people like jumped on me, and I

631
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,719
just absolutely jumped on me. Liz became my sponsor and

632
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,239
was so wonderful. She was like a surrogate mom to me.

633
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,719
She gave me away, like at my wedding, like you

634
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,599
know years later. I mean, I grew up in AA

635
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,880
and ever since that time. So I kept my mouth

636
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,159
shut for five years about smoking weed, didn't say a thing.

637
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,000
One night we're out of Hugo's having dinner, she was like,

638
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:42,400
how you doing. What's going on? Like I smoked weed?

639
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,519
She goes when I was like five years ago. She

640
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:50,840
was like wait what? So we went to Tuesday night meeting,

641
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:54,960
and I shaved a year and a half off, you know,

642
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:59,519
And but I've always just been in. I've been in.

643
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:09,320
I SPA answered, I love a about I don't know.

644
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:16,480
Eight years into sobriety, I met another UH recovering alcoholic

645
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:20,079
addict and we got married and hit right from the

646
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:23,920
get go. His sobriety looked way different than mine. I

647
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,960
don't even take cough syrup because like, I get scared.

648
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,639
I don't take any pills because I get scared. I still't,

649
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,760
you know, eat food that has alcal in it because

650
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,840
I get scared. I don't just love my life so much,

651
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,480
my sober life. I have a direction. I have a

652
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:44,559
career that AA has given me. I was nothing before that.

653
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,920
You know. I remember starting something in my sponsor saying

654
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,400
to me, like is this a thing? And I was like,

655
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,440
I want to try. She's like, okay, let's go for it.

656
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,159
And so I did. And I've been around the world.

657
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,519
I'm on my ninth passport, and you know, and I'm

658
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:03,079
known in my industry and it's great.

659
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: You fly. You're a flight attendant on like private jet. Yeah, yeah,

660
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,800
that's so cool. That came about from program.

661
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they've never seen the old Danielle. And so

662
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,719
I've been doing it for almost twenty years now and

663
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:29,039
I've gotten to you know, they say it's really hard

664
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:32,519
to be a flight attendant. No, it's not you if

665
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:36,199
you have a good relationship with your higher power and

666
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,800
if you want this and you make the sacrifices and

667
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,440
go to meetings in different places. For years, I used

668
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,119
to say, I don't know, I go to meetings on

669
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:48,280
the road, and then I'd get all frenchy and yucky

670
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,039
and gross and and it'd be like, just go, like,

671
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:55,039
this is my medicine, this is what I need to

672
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:57,840
take care of me, right. And so I started doing

673
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,199
it and I was like, ohh, I'm my own worst

674
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,159
enemy again, you know what I mean, Like I'm not

675
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,679
recovering because I'm not doing the things they keep me recovered.

676
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,920
So I started going to meetings around the world and

677
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,559
it's lovely and you meet people who are just like

678
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,800
you and me, and you know, in other areas, and

679
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,440
it's awesome. I went to a really cool bomb shelter

680
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,000
meeting in Israel. They're like, go downstairs into this park,

681
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,960
go downstairs, and it's down there, and I was like, Okay,

682
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,320
I go in this bomb shelter. It's like just a

683
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,639
door in like the park. I go down like three

684
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:36,400
flights of stairs. When I get to like the second

685
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:39,800
second flight of stairs, I'm like really dark, like what

686
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,199
are we coly? What are they doing? I get to

687
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,280
the third thing and there's all these people down there.

688
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,800
They're like making bagels and like cream cheese down there,

689
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,679
and like I'm like, I'm like, oh, this is this

690
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,320
is insane. Yep.

691
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,679
Speaker 1: So the relationship he's he's doing it different, right, he's doing.

692
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:06,079
Speaker 2: Oh the relationship, yes, way different. Taking night quill at

693
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:11,800
night to go to sleep, taking all kinds of medication

694
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,119
has has you know, legitimate pain. And that was the

695
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:20,800
fights we got into all the time. I have legitimate pain, Okay,

696
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,480
I understand that, but I you know, you can't be

697
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,239
doing this. And then so I had to enroll in

698
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,840
another program because you know, I'm living side by side

699
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,639
with this other person and I know what it's supposed

700
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:36,159
to look like. But there, you know, I can't run

701
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:39,880
somebody else's life and program. And also it's making me nuts,

702
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,159
you know, so I have to stay on my side

703
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:47,679
of the street, right, So I end up you know,

704
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,360
I'm a little older and so is he. And he said,

705
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:52,840
you know, I've never wanted children my whole life, and

706
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:54,480
he said I kind of want a kid, and I

707
00:42:54,519 --> 00:42:56,960
was like, I do too. So we went both got

708
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:58,599
checked out and I was like, yeah, I go for it.

709
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:00,159
So I was like, oh, it's gonna be some which

710
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,079
fun like I've never not tried. I've never tried to

711
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,119
you know, had a kid like I was tried not

712
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:10,119
to have a kid. Right first, try right away, first

713
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:15,480
try sa pugnant, yanks. First try Yeah, we're not even

714
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:18,079
married yet or like dating. And then he says to me,

715
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:22,360
you know, oh, before this, I'd already had another marriage

716
00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:26,320
that I picked another wrong guy who was not right

717
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,559
for me. I was married not even a year and

718
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:32,039
I got divorced because again I still don't know how

719
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,960
to have, even ten years into a relation into AA,

720
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:40,119
I don't know how to have I don't understand how

721
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:46,480
you pick somebody who had good stuff. I guess I

722
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:50,079
don't know, you know, like I still that's what I

723
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:53,760
most struggle with. You know, I know my worth now,

724
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:56,360
but back then I didn't. It was like, oh, you

725
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,519
showed me love and attention, great, right and so he

726
00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:01,599
was showing me a lot and attention. I get pregnant.

727
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:03,559
He says to me, all right, we got to get married.

728
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:08,559
And I was like, what, No, No, you know he said, Oh,

729
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:10,159
I'm not going to have a baby with somebody I'm

730
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:12,639
not going to get married to. So we got married.

731
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:18,360
Three months pregnant, we get married, and right from the

732
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,800
get go, the minute I gave birth to my son,

733
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:24,199
which is the best day of my life, he stole

734
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,559
my pain meds that they gave from my C section

735
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,719
and it was game on. He had been using that

736
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,639
whole time, but this time he now, it's like really

737
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:36,920
affecting me. So I have to be a brand new baby.

738
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,039
And I have a really fucked up partner who is

739
00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:45,280
wasted the whole time. And for years. We were married

740
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,840
for four years, and for four of those years he

741
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:56,159
was absolutely out of his mind wasted, and I had

742
00:44:56,159 --> 00:45:00,280
to deal with that. He lost my son. One time

743
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,400
I went on a work trip. I was in London

744
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,800
and I got a phone call that said, your son's missing.

745
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,599
We have police and we have canine looking for him.

746
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:12,119
And we had a helicopter and he was three and

747
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:16,480
a half years old and he had lost him because

748
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:21,679
he was in a drunken wasted drug something, you know.

749
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:26,280
And it was during like twenty twenty, beginning of twenty twenty.

750
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,639
He had gone to a meeting at the park, and

751
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,119
you know, I was like okay with it because he,

752
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,840
you know, he went to the park. He Ben got

753
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,280
to go to the park and then he got to

754
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,000
go to his meetings. I didn't love it, but they

755
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:42,639
did it. And he was so wasted at the meeting.

756
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,480
Some guy drove them home and Todd just absolutely like

757
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:49,360
passed out on the couch. And now he's with some

758
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:53,880
random guy. This guy has no clue about kids, and

759
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,320
he just takes him and puts him in the front

760
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,760
seat of his car, just drives him around La doing

761
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:06,760
barons and stuff all day, and after about six hours

762
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,880
comes back, tries to wake Todd up, can't get him

763
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,760
to wake up, calls another friend and says, I don't

764
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,519
know what to do. I have a kid, like, I

765
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:17,360
don't know what to do. And another person comes and

766
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,159
takes Ben. And then I got a voicemail when I

767
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,079
landed saying where like, hey, Danielle, we just want to

768
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:27,239
let you know we have Ben. And I told the

769
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,760
police when they called me where he was, and they

770
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,079
went there, duns draw on everything, and Todd lost custody

771
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:37,280
because in his addiction. And the next couple of years,

772
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,400
we're just torture. You know. I had CCSD in CCSD

773
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:45,360
all over me, thinking I was a terrible parent. I

774
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,559
was trying to be a flight attendant who travels the

775
00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:52,360
world with the child baby, you know I was. It

776
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,320
was during twenty twenty or you know, it's just craziness,

777
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,280
and he's trying to fight me for custody and he's

778
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,039
not able to even do anything. I ended up moving

779
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:05,960
back to Las Vegas, and because my family lives here

780
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,480
and it's actually become a good, great thing. You know,

781
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:14,480
my whole you're an idiot, you're dumb. Well, I moved

782
00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:18,280
back here and they said, we're opening up a facility

783
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,880
to teach flight attendants in your the brand new flight attendants.

784
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:28,639
And uh, now I'm an instructor for I'm still a

785
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,840
flight attendant and I still travel all around, but I

786
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,159
also teach all the brand new uh flight ascendants. So

787
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:37,920
Sobriety really has taught me, first of all, how to

788
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:43,239
be a grown adult. UH brought me up, taught me morals,

789
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,719
taught me to love myself, taught me to be kind

790
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,519
to others compassion of so not compassion. I was so

791
00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:51,159
not kind. I didn't think of anybody but me. It

792
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:54,480
was a lot of just kind of blovering around and

793
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,679
not knowing how to be or where to go, you.

794
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:01,119
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, of course. Wow.

795
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: And then.

796
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,599
Speaker 1: Your ex uh.

797
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. He passed away two years ago and even

798
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:15,159
sadder is he? So he followed us out to Las

799
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,639
Vegas to be close to my son. And at first

800
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:23,920
I was like, oh god, okay, but also I was like,

801
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,960
all right, show me, right, like show me. And he

802
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:29,760
had to have monitored visitation because of all of his

803
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,280
you know, addiction, and he just couldn't do He couldn't

804
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,679
show up for them, and he kept getting his alcoholism

805
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,000
just kept getting worse and worse and worse. And he

806
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:42,360
lived in a gated community one mile away from our house.

807
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,880
In two and a half years, he saw him four times,

808
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:56,000
and two Christmases ago, I hadn't heard from him for

809
00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:58,920
a while, and finally we did a wellness check and

810
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,880
he was it had been passed away in his home

811
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,199
for a month, and nobody had checked on him because

812
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,079
he had pushed so many people away from him with

813
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:12,679
his disease, and you know, I was so angry at him,

814
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,079
you know, like all the alan On stuff. I was

815
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:18,119
so angry at him this whole time, and the moment

816
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,360
he passed away, that went away for me. And now

817
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,679
we talk about Daddy all the time. We you know,

818
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:29,079
it's coming up on his two years passed away, and

819
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:35,599
we're going to go out and celebrate Daddy. You know,

820
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,480
he has the same disease I had. I have, and uh,

821
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,519
that could be me, you know, it could be any

822
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:45,559
one of us. If we decide to not do this

823
00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:51,119
program one hundred percent, it could be you. Doesn't really discriminate, right,

824
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,679
So so.

825
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just such a awful but also beautiful story.

826
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: And I have to.

827
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: I I was so angry with my biological father for

828
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,159
so many years, and I just carried these like this

829
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,559
chip on my shoulder, you know. And I do think

830
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:14,599
that doing my ninth step when I had to write

831
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:17,519
a ninth step about well, I didn't have to, but

832
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,719
I really was like, well, I don't think I So

833
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,559
ninth step in twelve step terms, is where you make

834
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:27,280
your amends. You say sorry and clean up your side

835
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,320
of the street, and sometimes to get to your apology.

836
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,800
You know, at first, you can be like, well, I

837
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,559
don't know that person apology. You look at people that

838
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:41,599
you have still have issues, well, right, And I mean

839
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:43,960
I do think I had that feeling of like, well,

840
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:47,239
I'm way more sinned against. You know, my father was

841
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,719
not a good father. He was absent from my life.

842
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,199
He was only cared about himself, and those things are

843
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,880
all true. But when I had to really think about

844
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:02,320
what I was doing carrying around this resentment to somebody.

845
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,480
This was after he passed away. So I wrote about

846
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:08,239
this in my book because I have I was keeping

847
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,159
his ashes in my closet and I was angry, and

848
00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:12,800
I was like, I don't know what to do with

849
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,280
these because like kind of like fuck this guy, you know.

850
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:19,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, and keep him in the dark and there. If

851
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:21,199
I don't put him out, then I'm not just like I.

852
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:23,159
Speaker 1: Don't want to be in charge of figuring out how

853
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:25,320
to like celebrate his life. And you know, I felt

854
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,800
like everybody wanted me to be the one to have

855
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,119
a memorial for him, and I was like he pushed

856
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:35,920
everybody away and he nobody was really there at the end.

857
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:37,519
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.

858
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: So a few years later though, when I was doing

859
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,679
my ninth step. I wrote a letter to him and

860
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,639
was actually able to go, oh, I did do some

861
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,119
things wrong, which I won't go into, but I mean

862
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,199
I was able to go, oh, my god, there's more

863
00:51:54,320 --> 00:52:01,000
nuance to relationships than just he was bad and I'm good,

864
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:05,320
you know. And I was able to read him that letter,

865
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,599
and I went and scattered his ashes, and it's like,

866
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,480
really a miracle. I never would have done.

867
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: Right, thing to do right, and I don't have any

868
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:20,639
anger anymore, you know. I became his executor, and so

869
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:26,599
I'm in charge of everything for his life now because

870
00:52:26,639 --> 00:52:28,880
his family really doesn't want anything to do with it.

871
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,920
They realized they weren't going to get anything out of it,

872
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,800
so they just threw it at me. And he had

873
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,599
all these journals and for the first I don't know

874
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:39,360
how good it was for me, but for the first

875
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,840
couple of months of him passing away, I read all

876
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,280
of his journals about the times that I hated him

877
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,480
so much and how and his side of it was

878
00:52:48,519 --> 00:52:52,639
like super glaring at some of the things that like, wow,

879
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:57,440
I'm acting how I'm acting, or how he's perceiving things,

880
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:00,440
or I could see that I can like I was

881
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:04,960
so blinded by not getting what I needed or wanted

882
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:08,280
or whatever. You know that when our name, when our

883
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:12,639
we're not totally in the game, you know, aa wise,

884
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,519
you know, like on the beam, when I'm just sitting

885
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:19,960
in righteous anger, that like maybe I am wrong, maybe

886
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,719
I am Maybe I could be a little kinder or

887
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,920
a little bit more compassionate at the pain he's in

888
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:28,039
or the this or the that, or let him seep

889
00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:30,320
engine in or let him you know, all of these

890
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,679
different things. So you know, we're a work in progress

891
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,519
right always.

892
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but wow, this has been so enlightening and I'm

893
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,000
so glad. I I don't I don't think I've ever

894
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:45,239
heard your whole story ever from begin I mean i've share,

895
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,599
but I've never heard the whole story. And I loved it.

896
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:50,679
And I think this is going to help a lot

897
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:53,000
of people. This is why I do it, you know, good,

898
00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:56,840
I sure hope. So I so appreciate you, And yeah,

899
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,679
I appreciate you. And if there's any way you want

900
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:02,599
to prom promote yourself for anything, like if you want.

901
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,599
Speaker 2: More, okay, okay, no problem. If anybody wants to be

902
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:10,519
a slight incident, come see me, Okay, that's about it.

903
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, love you girl, Thank you so.

904
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,159
Speaker 2: Many years of self promotion. I'm good.

905
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: No no background work on any soap operas these days.

906
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,079
Speaker 2: No, no, if any if anybody wants me in their

907
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:26,840
green room during cocaine, I'm your girl.

908
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,119
Speaker 1: Okay, Thanks Danielle, thanks everybody for listening, and we'll see

909
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:31,760
you next week.

910
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: Ye

