Speaker 1: We all love to hear. When a cold case finally
Speaker 1: gets solved, it not only brings closure to the family
Speaker 1: and friends of victims, but it also ensures that violent
Speaker 1: criminals pay for their crimes and are no longer free
Speaker 1: to commit Once again. With today's case, we get to
Speaker 1: experience a cold case being solved, and what exactly happened
Speaker 1: and how it gets solved is nothing short of jaw dropping.
Speaker 1: This is the case of Jorge Aliva Torres. My name's Ben, I'm.
Speaker 2: Nicole and you're listening to Wicked and Grim true crime podcast.
Speaker 1: The following podcast material intended for a mature audience. Listener
Speaker 1: discretion is advised. Okay, so fall is officially in full swing.
Speaker 1: We're not fall yet, but the fall is here, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I have Oh yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: Who has been working on Halloween costumes? Who has had
Speaker 1: their first pumpkin spice latte? I gotta know, like, what's happening?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the pumpkin spice craze.
Speaker 1: Hey yeah, the pumpkin spice craze.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll admit I'm pretty basic, but that is
Speaker 2: like one thing that I don't do. I'm not like
Speaker 2: into the pumpkin spice.
Speaker 1: Have you had a pumpkin spice latte?
Speaker 2: I think so? But I don't really drink coffee, right,
Speaker 2: so I didn't really like it.
Speaker 1: Well you can't. Can you not get like a pumpkin
Speaker 1: spice chai tea latte or something?
Speaker 2: Maybe? But I don't know. I'm fine not being super
Speaker 2: into it.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. I mean I like pumpkin spice
Speaker 1: because it's basically just the same spice and seasonings that
Speaker 1: go on a pumpkin pie, and I fucking love them.
Speaker 2: Well pumpkin pie with a whole bunch of whipped cream. Okay,
Speaker 2: but dude, you haven't ordered our costumes? No, not yet,
Speaker 2: Holy heck, because yeah we have like our annual photo shoot.
Speaker 1: We do? We do?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Amazon right now and live while
Speaker 1: we're recording this, and I am not editing this out.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: Are you going to say what it is you're looking for?
Speaker 1: Should I?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No? Because I think I was. I think was it
Speaker 2: last episode? I don't even know I told you about
Speaker 2: that cool Halloween candle thing. Oh yeah, And then people
Speaker 2: are like, don't tell him, don't tell him? Or was
Speaker 2: that in our live might have been our live. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I can't remember. Everything's a blur.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we're not telling you, but I definitely see
Speaker 1: pieces for what I can order. Okay, yeah, we can
Speaker 1: get it like in a couple of days. Easy, peasy, lemon,
Speaker 1: freaking squeezy.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, this is good. I'm actually kind of excited
Speaker 2: for this photo shoot.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 1: It's not as all out as we went last year
Speaker 1: with the zombie shoot, that one where Nicole bashed my
Speaker 1: head in, but it's it's gonna be fun. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good.
Speaker 2: That was voted on.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was voted on, and well, they voted whether
Speaker 1: I kill you or you kill me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm not an evil person. Or maybe they
Speaker 2: voted that I was an evil person. I think it
Speaker 2: would make more it'd be more fitting. It was that way.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what the vote was was, which makes
Speaker 1: more sense.
Speaker 2: Okay, never mind, take it back.
Speaker 1: So you are the evil person, I'm the evil person.
Speaker 1: I think it was a Patreon vote, wasn't it that
Speaker 1: we went to?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and speaking of patrons, don't we have some
Speaker 2: to think we do.
Speaker 1: What a great segue. So people that signed up for
Speaker 1: Patreon get that behind the scenes access. They get the
Speaker 1: exclusive episode library where we come up with an extra
Speaker 1: episode at the end of each month. So thank you
Speaker 1: to Martha Hatfield, JD the media. Thank you JD specifically,
Speaker 1: he's a local friend of ours. Nicole Baptiste, you guys
Speaker 1: are amazing. You signed up, you get all that. And
Speaker 1: also I do have to say today's case is also
Speaker 1: a Patreon recommended case, Okay, and Nicole actually recommended this
Speaker 1: one as well, So Nicole Baptiste, you are the one
Speaker 1: who recommended this case. And I went and did some
Speaker 1: research right away and here we are. Cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And like right before this, we just recorded
Speaker 2: a fifteen minute pre show and you know, dropped some
Speaker 2: life events.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they get it where it's at it is.
Speaker 1: They get all that behind the scenes goodness for sure. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I've been thinking for a while of creating like a
Speaker 1: VIP Patreon thing where maybe it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: sticker club or something we send up monthly stickers or
Speaker 1: I don't like, don't I don't know, maybe we should
Speaker 1: talk to Patreon, see what you think of that.
Speaker 2: Something that's kind of VIP. It would be cool. It
Speaker 2: would be monthly mail. Gosh, it's like a penpal kind
Speaker 2: of Yeah.
Speaker 1: It could be like we could write like mystery like
Speaker 1: true crime things that we just make up, of course,
Speaker 1: but it could be like a mystery letter where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been We can have these fake penpals
Speaker 1: where he's confessing a murder for like over the course
Speaker 1: of an entire year or something like that, and then
Speaker 1: finally on that last letter, Oh my god, that's when
Speaker 1: you get it's like solved and you figure it out
Speaker 1: and you know, or something like that. I think something
Speaker 1: like that would be cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is cool, but it's also like, ah,
Speaker 2: I don't want to know right now, and you have
Speaker 2: to you go through the process of a whole year.
Speaker 2: But I mean, sometimes good things are worth the way,
Speaker 2: right Yeah.
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll go over to Patreon here in a
Speaker 1: little while and uh and see what they have to say.
Speaker 1: But for now, I think we got to jump into this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So today we are heading to Arlington, Virginia in
Speaker 1: twenty ten, So in the late hours of February fourth,
Speaker 1: transitioning into the early mornings of February fifth, Corporal T. L. Clifford,
Speaker 1: seasoned officer with the Arlington Police Department, noticed something a
Speaker 1: little bit peculiar in the area. See for eight years,
Speaker 1: he had been patrolling an area known as the quote
Speaker 1: Valley Beat, becoming familiar with, you know, the usual activities,
Speaker 1: the regular people, the normal things that happened, whether it's
Speaker 1: the good, the bad, the ugly, right, okay, so he
Speaker 1: he could spot pretty much any unusual behavior in an
Speaker 1: instant and that night something definitely caught his attention. It
Speaker 1: was a silver dodged Durango as it was creepy, started
Speaker 1: creeping and slowly going along Sherlington Road. It was behaving
Speaker 1: in a way that seemed out of place. Though the
Speaker 1: Durraguo eventually left the area, it wasn't long before the
Speaker 1: vehicle once again reappeared, raising further questions in the officer's mind.
Speaker 1: He's sitting here thinking, what are they doing? Who is
Speaker 1: this person? Something?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't quite seem right. So this time though,
Speaker 1: the Durango was moving slowly near a place dubbed four
Speaker 1: Mile Run, which is a popular route for cyclists and joggers.
Speaker 1: Hence you know four mile run.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, Officer Clifford watched as the suv parked between
Speaker 1: two trucks by a bike path. The driver switched off
Speaker 1: the headlights and sat idling for about fifteen minutes. Even
Speaker 1: though the headlights were off, the vehicle was idling and
Speaker 1: still on. Then after about fifteen minutes or so, turned
Speaker 1: the headlights back on and took off. Huh, Officer Clifford
Speaker 1: knew something wasn't right. As I said before, he can
Speaker 1: kind of see if something's out of the ordinary, almost
Speaker 1: in an instant, and this was out of the ordinary. Now,
Speaker 1: the driver hadn't exactly committed any visible offense, or he's
Speaker 1: not doing any sort of crime just by driving and parking, right,
Speaker 1: but the situation was odd enough that he ran the
Speaker 1: license plate just in case the search came back clean.
Speaker 1: There were no warrants, no red flags attached to the
Speaker 1: vehicle at all, still, just in case. He jotted the
Speaker 1: license plate number down in the event that he might
Speaker 1: ever need it.
Speaker 2: I like how observant he's being.
Speaker 1: This is good, right, He's doing his due diligence, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. Totally so little did did he know, though,
Speaker 1: that this small detail would later help lead to the
Speaker 1: capture of a dangerous serial rapist and murderer. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and the man that was behind this durango uh huh
Speaker 1: was most likely scouting for his next victim.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So the following day, on February fifth into the sixth.
Speaker 1: So it's the same kind of like transition from day
Speaker 1: to night to day. Right, the durango yet made another.
Speaker 2: Appearance sack Okay.
Speaker 1: The city was especially quiet due to a massive snowstorm
Speaker 1: that had nearly paralyzed the entire city and area. Things
Speaker 1: were shut down, businesses weren't running, people couldn't really drive
Speaker 1: to work or anywhere around. Right, So Officer Clifford saw
Speaker 1: the vehicle again and continued to keep an eye on it.
Speaker 1: This time, it parked in a dimly lit spot near
Speaker 1: some local bars. Its headlights once again were switched off,
Speaker 1: and it sat idling before driving away. Eventually, after a
Speaker 1: few minutes, trusting his gut, Officer Clifford contacted a fellow officer,
Speaker 1: Andrew Nascelli, who is nearby, and he asked him to
Speaker 1: keep an eye out for this suspicious durangle that was
Speaker 1: headed in his direction. Officer Necelli agreed. However, their surveillance
Speaker 1: was quickly cut short when they were called to respond
Speaker 1: to a nearby traffic incident instead, So while dealing with
Speaker 1: the incident, fate would intervene. The durango passed them by,
Speaker 1: windows rolled down as it drive by them. For the
Speaker 1: first time, Officer Clifford got a very clear look at
Speaker 1: the driver. It was a clean shaven young man wearing
Speaker 1: a black wool cap. Done dun dum.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I was like waiting for some reason. I
Speaker 2: was thinking that someone, a victim was going to be
Speaker 2: in there or something.
Speaker 1: Nope, okay, no, there's nothing suspicious other than.
Speaker 2: Okay, he got a clear look at at him.
Speaker 1: Now yeah, okay, yeah, there's nothing actually suspicious about this
Speaker 1: individual outright to the officers, it was just something's not
Speaker 1: sitting right with them.
Speaker 2: You gotta trust those gout feelings sometimes you do. Sure.
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know. I try. I don't trust
Speaker 2: mine very oft well.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I try hard to make sure I do, because lots
Speaker 2: of times you're just like no, it's like it's fine,
Speaker 2: it's fine, but you gotta kind of listen.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's saying something to you for it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so now.
Speaker 1: In the early hours of February tenth, in twenty ten,
Speaker 1: a twenty five year old woman who will call Michelle,
Speaker 1: was walking with her boyfriend or walking to her boyfriend's
Speaker 1: house in Arlington, Virginia. Michelle had just finished her night
Speaker 1: shift as an r nurse. Now, due to another winter
Speaker 1: storm that had hit the area, she was released from
Speaker 1: work early. After taking the train to the Virginia Square station.
Speaker 1: She planned to catch a cab from there, but unfortunately,
Speaker 1: because the storm, no taxis were available, which forced her
Speaker 1: to walk the remaining distance on foot. As she walked
Speaker 1: through the snowy streets, nearing the seventeen hundred block of
Speaker 1: Norwork Quincy Street, an unsettling presence lurked nearby, and suddenly
Speaker 1: a man emerged from the shadows, grabbing Michelle's jacket from behind. Startled,
Speaker 1: she turned to confront him, but before she could react,
Speaker 1: he pressed a gun to her side, ordering her to
Speaker 1: stay silent and keep moving. The man began to push
Speaker 1: Michelle towards his sue, attempting to force her inside, but
Speaker 1: Michelle refused, and when she resisted, the attacker pulled out
Speaker 1: a knife to further threaten her life, most likely so
Speaker 1: he could threaten her and not make any noise with
Speaker 1: a gun shot right.
Speaker 2: Well, who knows even if that gun was real, right?
Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes they criminals use like a fake gun. Yeah, potentially,
Speaker 2: couldn't know for sure it was real in this setting, yeap.
Speaker 1: So in a desperate attempt to escape, Michelle fought back,
Speaker 1: struggling fiercely before breaking free, dropping her purse, and she
Speaker 1: sprinted through the snow, adrenaline fueling her as she raced
Speaker 1: to her boyfriend's house. When she arrived, she immediately called police.
Speaker 2: Okay, she got away. Yes.
Speaker 1: Though shaken Shell was able to give the authorities a
Speaker 1: clear description of her attacker's face. However, when it came
Speaker 1: to the vehicle, her recollection was less certain. She thought
Speaker 1: it might have been a light colored suv, possibly tan,
Speaker 1: but wasn't entirely sure. The incident was quickly broadcast over
Speaker 1: police radios, catching the attention of Officer Clifford, who was
Speaker 1: parked in his squad car at the time. As he
Speaker 1: listened to the details, something clicked. He couldn't shake the
Speaker 1: suspicion that this attack could be linked to the silver Durango,
Speaker 1: an suv that he had observed behaving suspiciously just a
Speaker 1: few days earlier. When he voiced his thoughts to another officer,
Speaker 1: though his concerns were dismissed and the connection wasn't pursued.
Speaker 2: Okay, because a Dodge dra Ango is an suv.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay.
Speaker 2: For some reason, I was thinking it was a truck.
Speaker 2: But okay, so that's why right away I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a different person, but it might not be.
Speaker 1: No, it's a here, this is what it. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a twenty twenty five because that's what pops
Speaker 1: up when you google it right away, the most recent.
Speaker 2: But that's okay, okay, and go yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he saw this silver colored suv, wrote the
Speaker 1: license plate down, and now a woman a couple days
Speaker 1: later is being trying to be forced into a light
Speaker 1: colored suv. So despite Officer Clifford's got feeling, nothing was
Speaker 1: pushed forward, and unbeknownst to of course him or Michelle,
Speaker 1: yeah this would things would tie into a much larger
Speaker 1: and more horrifying pattern of crime unfolding in the area.
Speaker 1: Because two weeks later, on Saturday, February twenty seventh, twenty
Speaker 1: ten two more women would face a terrifying attack at
Speaker 1: the hands of a man driving a light colored suv.
Speaker 1: At around two am, a woman who I'm going to
Speaker 1: call Helen was walking to her house near North Wakefield
Speaker 1: Street when a man approached her. He approached her from behind,
Speaker 1: and he told her he had a gun and ordered
Speaker 1: her to get into his suv. Like Michelle before her,
Speaker 1: Helen refused. A struggle broke out. The attacker pulled out
Speaker 1: a taser, pressing it against her neck. Now, miraculously, the
Speaker 1: taser failed to fire, giving Helen a chance to break
Speaker 1: free and run. She managed to call nine to one,
Speaker 1: but once again, just like Michelle's case, the man disappeared
Speaker 1: before authorities could arrive. Just two hours after that, two
Speaker 1: hours later, on the same street, another attack occurred. At
Speaker 1: four a m. Two twenty three year old grad students
Speaker 1: who I'm going to call Diane and Sammy were walking
Speaker 1: home from a night out with friends. As they approached
Speaker 1: Diane's house on North Wakefield Street, Pawed the two women
Speaker 1: paused outside while Diane searched her purse for keys. Suddenly,
Speaker 1: a man stepped out from behind a parked car and
Speaker 1: brandished a gun, acting quickly he forced both the women
Speaker 1: inside Diane's home. Oh my goshh this time he didn't
Speaker 1: want to leave opportunity for someone to break free and run.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Ah, well, I mean, yeah, he's had a lot well
Speaker 2: that we know of a lot of misses, but I
Speaker 2: mean there could be times in between that.
Speaker 1: There could definitely be other cases or other things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, this just reminded me too. I remember
Speaker 2: my sister saying, because like I don't know, as a woman,
Speaker 2: like you have to be kind of like observant to
Speaker 2: a degree. And I'm sure men do too, but more
Speaker 2: so women because a lot of women they'll like say
Speaker 2: that they're grocery shopping or they're doing something, and then
Speaker 2: afterwards they like sit in their car or like just
Speaker 2: to get their their bearings or like see what's on
Speaker 2: their list to do next or whatever. And she was like,
Speaker 2: always lock your door when you're doing that, and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this like she's just like digging in her purse, right,
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, for one second, probably not totally aware
Speaker 2: of her surroundings.
Speaker 1: And yeah, now I understand I may not be as
Speaker 1: vulnerable or a target quite as like you might be
Speaker 1: in that situation, but still saying I always lock my doors.
Speaker 1: If I am sitting in a parking lot, locked right.
Speaker 2: Away, I know why not? Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean, all it takes is for someone
Speaker 1: to decide you were target for one reason or another.
Speaker 1: Maybe it is because you know you are a woman,
Speaker 1: or maybe it's because hey, maybe they saw me at
Speaker 1: the cash register in the grocery store and saw I
Speaker 1: had a twenty in my wallet. Like you know, who
Speaker 1: knows the reasoning you should always lock your doors?
Speaker 2: Well, I always find I'm most nervous, say if we're
Speaker 2: at the grocery store together and say I'm in the
Speaker 2: car while it's running and you're running it in and
Speaker 2: I'm like in the fastener seat. Yeah, That's when I'm
Speaker 2: always like, Okay, this door needs to be locked, because
Speaker 2: some would easily just like pulp in the driver's seat
Speaker 2: and like take off.
Speaker 1: For a one hundred percent. So well, and I even
Speaker 1: have a That's one of the reasons why I carry
Speaker 1: a pocket knife with me is because you know, if
Speaker 1: we're in an instant, I have something to help defend
Speaker 1: you or me or whatever. And there's many times where
Speaker 1: you know, like we're walking by someone that seems a
Speaker 1: little shady. I usually try and put myself between them
Speaker 1: and you, and I have my hand in my pocket,
Speaker 1: but it's ready for an elbow to throw up if
Speaker 1: I need. Like, there's these things that cross my mind
Speaker 1: in many scenarios. Yeah, but I do agree. Many times
Speaker 1: it is women who are more susceptible, which is very unfortunate.
Speaker 1: But we digress back to the case. So, once they
Speaker 1: are pushed inside, he asked Diane if anyone else was
Speaker 1: in the home, though she had a roommate sleeping upstairs.
Speaker 1: Diane lied.
Speaker 2: She told him no, Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the man then ordered both women to kneel
Speaker 1: in the living room and he tied their hands together
Speaker 1: using a vacuum cleaner cord. After binding them, the man
Speaker 1: left the room. Diane Sammy immediately began working to loosen
Speaker 1: the restraints and they were nearly free when the attacker returned.
Speaker 1: Enraged at their attempt, he retied their hands using a
Speaker 1: an iron like an iron cord. This time he's also
Speaker 1: using an iron cord.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like that would hold very well, but I.
Speaker 1: Don't think it would. I don't think it would, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he retied their hands, and at knife point, forced both
Speaker 1: women into a bedroom using a knife that he grabbed,
Speaker 1: most likely from the kitchen. The women complied, but as
Speaker 1: soon as the man left the room again, they sprang
Speaker 1: into action. Diane threw herself against the door, slamming it
Speaker 1: shut behind the man. Sammy, still holding her phone in
Speaker 1: her pocket, quickly.
Speaker 2: Dialed nine okay one, yes.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not too sure if the I don't think
Speaker 1: the phone could fully connect. I'm not certain exactly, but
Speaker 1: the attacker burst back into the room and smashed the
Speaker 1: phone against the wall. He then grabbed Sammy, dragging her
Speaker 1: out of the house and down the street, and forced
Speaker 1: her into the suv and sped away.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile inside the house, Diane began screaming and making as
Speaker 1: much noise as possible, banging the vacuum cleaner, which was
Speaker 1: binding her wrists. Yeah around to wake up her roommate upstairs,
Speaker 1: who rushed down and together they immediately called nine one
Speaker 1: one from there. Okay, so I'm not sure if the
Speaker 1: nine one one call on the cell phone went through
Speaker 1: or not, but regardless, it was like a minute later
Speaker 1: they're dialing nine one one again.
Speaker 2: Like this guy kind of realized he couldn't take both
Speaker 2: of them on. Yes, kind of thing, it seems, yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, kesh. Sorry. Diane told authorities that the assailant was
Speaker 1: so young he could have passed for a high schooler.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, huh.
Speaker 1: Also bald, clean shaven.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can remember how the officer described clean shaven,
Speaker 2: clean shaven.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the man drove Sammy away from the scene, forcing
Speaker 1: her to lie low in the back of the seat,
Speaker 1: pushing her head down of trying to avoid drawing any
Speaker 1: sort of attention, and once he reached the remote location,
Speaker 1: he parked the car and climbed into the back seat
Speaker 1: with her, where he subjected her to a horrifying assault.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh no.
Speaker 1: He first forced her to perform oral sex and then
Speaker 1: put a put on a condom, saying quote, I'm not stupid,
Speaker 1: before raping her.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, you are, your stupid piece of shit. Actually yeah, actually,
Speaker 2: actually he is. Yeah, yeah, he's totally wrong.
Speaker 1: Rare yep. The assault continued, and when it was over,
Speaker 1: the man wrapped her head and mouth with packing tape
Speaker 1: and placed her on the floor in the back seat.
Speaker 1: He then drove toward Prince William County Virginia, stopping in
Speaker 1: a secluded area near the highway. There he assaulted her
Speaker 1: once again, and when he was finished, he took the
Speaker 1: scarf that she had been wearing, wrapped it around her
Speaker 1: neck and began tightening it. She was terrified and cried
Speaker 1: out what are you doing, to which the man replied,
Speaker 1: what do you think I'm doing?
Speaker 2: Okay, please tell me she lives.
Speaker 1: He continued to tighten the scarf until Sammy went limp,
Speaker 1: and then he disposed of her in the woods and
Speaker 1: drove away.
Speaker 2: Did she die?
Speaker 1: Hours later, at eight am, Thomas and Lynn Love were
Speaker 1: driving near Prince William Forest Park along the Alps Road,
Speaker 1: same area where Sammy was dumped, when they spotted something
Speaker 1: unusual in the snow. A young woman crawling through the snow. Okay,
Speaker 1: badly injured, but alive. It was Sammy.
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, Sammy, that's incredible.
Speaker 1: She managed to tell police that her attacker had been
Speaker 1: driving a silver SUV just like the other assaults. Her
Speaker 1: survivor or her survival would soon play a very crucial
Speaker 1: role in identifying the man responsible for the string of
Speaker 1: brutal attacks.
Speaker 2: What a complete piece of garbage, She just like did
Speaker 2: what he wanted and just like disposed of her like
Speaker 2: she was nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just pieced out.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that is just so disgusting that.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So.
Speaker 1: Officered Clifford once again heard the call, and he knew
Speaker 1: this time it must be related to the durangle that
Speaker 1: he had seen before. They ran the plate number that
Speaker 1: he had written down, because remember he wrote it down
Speaker 1: and it was registered to a young man by the
Speaker 1: name of Jorge Leva torri Is. Now I'm going to
Speaker 1: refer to him as George from here on out because
Speaker 1: it's I'm not a Spanish speaking and Joe is not
Speaker 1: my instinct to how to pronounce it. So I'm just
Speaker 1: going to go George, and many other people do just
Speaker 1: say George's for the easy, you know, translation sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, So his name is Jorge, but I am
Speaker 1: going to be saying George from here.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Uh, they believe that one of the survivors from the attack,
Speaker 1: so they brought not believe they brought one of the
Speaker 1: survivors from the attacks into the station. Now, what they
Speaker 1: did from here is they showed her a picture lineup
Speaker 1: of several different individuals who could potentially be a suspect. Right,
Speaker 1: I want to see if she could identify.
Speaker 2: George George within there, Yeah, okay, she was.
Speaker 1: Able to identify without a doubt that he was the
Speaker 1: one who attacked them.
Speaker 2: So he's like not even going about like covering his
Speaker 2: face or anything. No, Oh my gosh, And I'm not stupid.
Speaker 2: You are a stupid piece of shit.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, Like.
Speaker 1: You're just out in them. You are stupid.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, he's much more than a stupid piece of shit,
Speaker 2: but like, oh, what an idiot?
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I'm I'm not a fan of George.
Speaker 2: Yeah, none of us are here.
Speaker 1: No. So, after he was identified from the picture lineup,
Speaker 1: immediately a warrant for his arrest was sent out. So
Speaker 1: there was helicopters circling the neighborhood. There was like canine units.
Speaker 1: There was they were knocking on doors, questioning neighbors, all
Speaker 1: this sort of stuff. They were they were going through,
Speaker 1: They were trying to find them. They were doing what
Speaker 1: they needed to do to bring George in. Now a
Speaker 1: little bit of background on George. So George Aliyah, sorry
Speaker 1: Jorge for the reference of this one, but I will say, George,
Speaker 1: I'm here now. So Jorge Aliva Torres was born on
Speaker 1: August eighteenth, nineteen eighty eight, and he was raised in Zion, Illinois.
Speaker 1: No according to the reports, the reports in the Washington
Speaker 1: Sorry the Washingtonian, Washingtonian, I think it's how you say it.
Speaker 1: But anyways, according to the reports in that Georgie, his
Speaker 1: parents were immigrants from Mexico. His father worked in a
Speaker 1: cardboard factory while his mother was a homemaker. Now George
Speaker 1: grew up in Sorry with one sister, Sarah, and the
Speaker 1: two shared a particularly close bond. Throughout high school, George
Speaker 1: frequently skipped classes and often found himself in minor trouble. However,
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, he faced more serious consequences
Speaker 1: when he was caught with marijuana, leading to his expulsion
Speaker 1: from school. Now, most of the time he did didn't
Speaker 1: get into much trouble. He wasn't really much of a
Speaker 1: smoker or drinker like many of the older kids, and
Speaker 1: it led to like some of his friends' parents actually
Speaker 1: liking him quite a bit. But he was quite he
Speaker 1: was quite an outcast, and he was apparently really into
Speaker 1: like mountain biking. I don't know if it was like
Speaker 1: mountain biking on trails, but he had a mountain bike.
Speaker 1: They'd definitely be riding around the neighborhood and stuff. And
Speaker 1: he had a collection of throwing stars that he really
Speaker 1: liked as well, and he was not reportedly very good
Speaker 1: with the ladies.
Speaker 2: Okay, throwing stars, what do you do with that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You throw them?
Speaker 2: Are they like sharp? Or are they going into you?
Speaker 2: Throw the mentature kind of thing?
Speaker 1: Or yeah, ninja throwing someone.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I was thinking, but I wasn't certain
Speaker 2: that's exactly.
Speaker 1: What they were. Okay, yeah, But despite his setback of
Speaker 1: smoking marijuana, George managed to graduate from the Zion Benton
Speaker 1: Township High School in two thousand and six. After graduation,
Speaker 1: George wasted no time and immediately enlisted in the Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: Course Marine Corps, I'm bad, there you go. By April
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, he was stationed at Joint Base
Speaker 1: Meyer Henderson Hall in Arlington, Virginia, where he performed administrative duties.
Speaker 1: Now he resided on base in Keith Hall, a facility
Speaker 1: that how is the mix of personnel including male and
Speaker 1: female Marine sailors and a few airmen as well. Friends
Speaker 1: described George as dependable. He was an individual who had
Speaker 1: a passion for cars, trucks, video games, his bikes, you know,
Speaker 1: his ninja throwing stars. He was also known as the
Speaker 1: type marine who would go out of his way to
Speaker 1: help others, even giving you, you know, the off his
Speaker 1: back if need be.
Speaker 2: Oh, this description is actually making him seem like not
Speaker 2: a terrible person. Yeah, I'm not enjoying this.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's that's exactly the case. He seems
Speaker 1: like he's not a terrible person. Yeah, he doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like the type of individual who could actually commit these crimes. Right,
Speaker 1: So the question was was it George? Is it actually him?
Speaker 2: Okay, right, I didn't even go there. As you're reading this,
Speaker 2: I'm like, it is him.
Speaker 1: Well that's kind of what officers were thinking. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this doesn't really match up too well, but you know,
Speaker 1: it is his vehicle, that's what it's registered to. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna go question him. We're gonna go see. So
Speaker 1: officers approached George's vehicle in the parking lot outside of
Speaker 1: Keith's Hall, where he was stationed. They decided to take
Speaker 1: a quick glance through the windows, and what they saw
Speaker 1: was a little bit chilling, because in the back seat
Speaker 1: they spotted an iron.
Speaker 2: Oh, which is what she was tied up in.
Speaker 1: Which is exactly what the victim was described to be
Speaker 1: tied up in. Right, So George was nowhere in sight,
Speaker 1: but his vehicle was there, so they chose not to
Speaker 1: act immediately. Instead, they decided to wait and keep an
Speaker 1: eye on the car. So they kind of scouted out
Speaker 1: the car and laid in wait, hoping that, you know what,
Speaker 1: they could apprehend him when he returned. It was less
Speaker 1: than twelve hours after he left Sammy for dead that
Speaker 1: George strolled casually towards his vehicle, completely unaware that he
Speaker 1: was being monitored, and he was quickly taken into custody.
Speaker 1: During questioning, George didn't really behave like the stereotypical criminal.
Speaker 1: In fact, the officers described him as cordial and cooperative.
Speaker 1: Throughout the two hour interview, George consistently maintained his innocence,
Speaker 1: acting as though he had no knowledge of the events.
Speaker 1: Despite his calm demeanor, the interrogation led nowhere in terms
Speaker 1: of confession. They had nothing.
Speaker 2: I'm almost wondering if someone else is using his vehicle
Speaker 2: at times or has access to his vehicle, is what
Speaker 2: I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, there was evidence that would be damning against
Speaker 1: George that would tell a bit of a different story
Speaker 1: than what he's telling. Inside his vehicle, police found several
Speaker 1: critical items, the iron cord used to buying the victims,
Speaker 1: a stun gun used in one of the attacks, packing
Speaker 1: tape that matched what was used to restrain one of
Speaker 1: the women. Among personal effects recovered were Sammy's college ID
Speaker 1: card and an earring that had fallen out in the
Speaker 1: backseat during the attack. Additionally, blood found in the vehicle
Speaker 1: would later confirm to belong to Sammy. The search for
Speaker 1: George's room revealed he had more incriminating evidence, including a
Speaker 1: ten millimeters semi automatic glock and ammunition. With the overwhelming
Speaker 1: physical evidence against him, George's facade of innocence began to crumble.
Speaker 1: They also found a pair of Nike sneakers that investigators
Speaker 1: believed George had worn during the attack on Michelle, Sammy,
Speaker 1: and Diane. Adding to the damning evidence. A shirt discover
Speaker 1: in his possession had bloodstains that were later confirmed to
Speaker 1: belong to Sammy. George's computer revealed even more disturbing details.
Speaker 1: It was a treasure trove of incriminating material containing a
Speaker 1: deep unsettling history. Investigators uncovered dozens of save photos and
Speaker 1: videos depicting violent sexual acts, with titles such as quote
Speaker 1: all rape videos, best forced sex, forced sex scenes, rape collection,
Speaker 1: and sleep assault movies.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, I mean, gosh, I guess like if I
Speaker 2: mean the evidence is pointing to him, you can never
Speaker 2: know someone could. There's many cases where people come across
Speaker 2: just totally fine, but then they're actually like a secret monster.
Speaker 1: Exactly Well, I mean, look at the classic case of
Speaker 1: the situation, Ted Bundy. How he was able to charm
Speaker 1: and yeah, no I'm innocent and people loved him, but
Speaker 1: he killed how many fucking people?
Speaker 2: M hmm. There's a lot like that, like the Barbie
Speaker 2: and Ken killers.
Speaker 1: Exactly right. Yeah, so George had also previously visited a
Speaker 1: website that provided instructions on how to make chloroform. Despite
Speaker 1: his repeat claims of innocence, the evidence stacked up against
Speaker 1: him was just overwhelming.
Speaker 3: Dang.
Speaker 1: Now, the final and most damning piece of evidence that
Speaker 1: came but which really puts the idea of it being
Speaker 1: someone else who was using his vehicle aside. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: this collapses that it was a rape kit that was
Speaker 1: conducted on Sammy DNA collected from her linked George directly
Speaker 1: to the crime. Is your earlier statement when he's putting
Speaker 1: on a condom quote, I'm not stupid. Yeah, no, he's
Speaker 1: fucking stupid.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh. Okay.
Speaker 1: With this conclusive evidence, George was charged with all three
Speaker 1: attacks that occurred. In February twenty ten. He faced fourteen
Speaker 1: total charges, including use of a firearm, abduction with intent
Speaker 1: to defile, robbery, arm breaking and entering, rape, and forcible sodomy,
Speaker 1: according to the court records. While awaiting trial, George was
Speaker 1: held at the Arlington County Detention Facility. How you doing
Speaker 1: so far?
Speaker 2: Fine? I just okay, I don't know. Right as you
Speaker 2: were saying that, I had this thought that maybe he
Speaker 2: doesn't survive in there. And then also I still have
Speaker 2: this little weird feeling that it wasn't him, and I
Speaker 2: don't know why. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: So it was him.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was him, it was him.
Speaker 1: Kay, you can put that to sleep. That's what I
Speaker 1: was saying. With the DNA link.
Speaker 2: Lash, Okay, like it's one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, they did DNA. They got his DNA from
Speaker 1: a rape victim.
Speaker 2: No, he yeah, And this was like twenty ten, you said,
Speaker 2: I think right, correct, So yeah, he and he was
Speaker 2: born in eighty eight, so he was like twenty two,
Speaker 2: like very young?
Speaker 1: Yes, holy shit?
Speaker 2: Yes, oh man, Okay, I don't know why that shocks me.
Speaker 2: You always think young people maybe aren't monsters, but I.
Speaker 1: Guess there are anyone could be a fucking monster. Yeah, honestly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But we have flown through this case so far in
Speaker 1: all honesty, so this might be a little bit of
Speaker 1: a shorter episode today. But I do got to say
Speaker 1: this to wrap this up here. With all this stuff
Speaker 1: in mind, there is something that separates George's case from
Speaker 1: many others, because what George had been charged with was
Speaker 1: only the tip of the iceberg. Because by June of
Speaker 1: twenty ten, once authorities put George's DNA that was now
Speaker 1: collected into the database, they immediately got another DNA match
Speaker 1: from a previously unsolved case. His DNA match that of
Speaker 1: a sample collected from a double murder of two little
Speaker 1: girls five years earlier. The victims were Laura Hobbes and
Speaker 1: Crystal to Bias, and we will cover their story in
Speaker 1: part two.
Speaker 2: No, yes, hey, two little girls. We don't know their
Speaker 2: ages from five years earlier. You're probably not gonna give
Speaker 2: me any information here, and what kind of DNA was
Speaker 2: on them? Oh my gosh, okay.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta tune into Park truly.
Speaker 2: Shit because he would have been like seventeen years old.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, you're good.
Speaker 2: No, I want to keep listening. What else you got
Speaker 2: for us? Just kidding, that's all I got for you.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving it there.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, dang, because you know what, I literally
Speaker 2: before you said that, had this thought. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: not that that what he doesn't isn't terrible, but I
Speaker 2: was like, he hasn't murdered. He didn't like successfully murder anyone,
Speaker 2: which you know is good. He still did horror horrible things,
Speaker 2: but I guess he did murder some people. Yeah hmm,
Speaker 2: innocent people that like couldn't really defend themselves near as
Speaker 2: much as like a full grown person.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, Okay, there we.
Speaker 1: Go, So tune in on Friday.
Speaker 2: I wonder how many people are just cursing you right now.
Speaker 1: Probably a lot. I mean, it's going to be in
Speaker 1: the title that it's a part one, So I'm saying
Speaker 1: that there. To my defense, it's in the title part one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, so intel, Okay. The silver lining is we don't
Speaker 2: have to wait a whole stink and week. We just
Speaker 2: have to wait until Friday. Well I actually only have
Speaker 2: to wait until Thursday. Ha ha, just kidding, just kidding. Wow,
Speaker 2: I know I just threw some heat there.
Speaker 1: No shit, Nicole's talking and throwing shaky.
Speaker 2: I just took the blame off you and put it
Speaker 2: on me.
Speaker 1: You're welcome, thank you. I appreciate it. Now you're the
Speaker 1: bad guy. I'm the bad guy, and that's why people
Speaker 1: think you're more likely to kill me in his on
Speaker 1: the scenario.
Speaker 2: Yeah, earlier you're like, yeah, I always put myself between
Speaker 2: you and everyone else, and here I'm like boom, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I do appreciate that you do that.
Speaker 2: I know often I'm like, I'm fine, I'm falling, but
Speaker 2: that is fine. I know I don't carry a knife.
Speaker 2: I probably should. It's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1: I bought you a hidden knife once.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like in a pen. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do with this?
Speaker 1: I mean, just keep it in your purse and if
Speaker 1: you ever need it and it's there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Which I'm pretty sure you've just thrown it out.
Speaker 2: Don't tell people that.
Speaker 1: But now she carries a machete on her at all
Speaker 1: times and an AK forty seven.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So hopefully you guys aren't too mad at us, because
Speaker 1: yeah that this is part one, but part two will
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Speaker 1: Yeah? How was that?
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