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<v Speaker 1>We all love to hear. When a cold case finally

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<v Speaker 1>gets solved, it not only brings closure to the family

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<v Speaker 1>and friends of victims, but it also ensures that violent

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<v Speaker 1>criminals pay for their crimes and are no longer free

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<v Speaker 1>to commit Once again. With today's case, we get to

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<v Speaker 1>experience a cold case being solved, and what exactly happened

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<v Speaker 1>and how it gets solved is nothing short of jaw dropping.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the case of Jorge Aliva Torres. My name's Ben, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole and you're listening to Wicked and Grim true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast material intended for a mature audience. Listener

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<v Speaker 1>discretion is advised. Okay, so fall is officially in full swing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not fall yet, but the fall is here, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so I have Oh yeah, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who has been working on Halloween costumes? Who has had

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<v Speaker 1>their first pumpkin spice latte? I gotta know, like, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, the pumpkin spice craze.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey yeah, the pumpkin spice craze.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll admit I'm pretty basic, but that is

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<v Speaker 2>like one thing that I don't do. I'm not like

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<v Speaker 2>into the pumpkin spice.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had a pumpkin spice latte?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so? But I don't really drink coffee, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't really like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you can't. Can you not get like a pumpkin

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<v Speaker 1>spice chai tea latte or something?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe? But I don't know. I'm fine not being super

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<v Speaker 2>into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, fair enough. I mean I like pumpkin spice

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<v Speaker 1>because it's basically just the same spice and seasonings that

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<v Speaker 1>go on a pumpkin pie, and I fucking love them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well pumpkin pie with a whole bunch of whipped cream. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but dude, you haven't ordered our costumes? No, not yet,

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<v Speaker 2>Holy heck, because yeah we have like our annual photo shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>We do? We do?

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go to Amazon right now and live while

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<v Speaker 1>we're recording this, and I am not editing this out.

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to say what it is you're looking for?

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<v Speaker 1>Should I?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Because I think I was. I think was it

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<v Speaker 2>last episode? I don't even know I told you about

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<v Speaker 2>that cool Halloween candle thing. Oh yeah, And then people

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<v Speaker 2>are like, don't tell him, don't tell him? Or was

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<v Speaker 2>that in our live might have been our live. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I can't remember. Everything's a blur.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well we're not telling you, but I definitely see

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<v Speaker 1>pieces for what I can order. Okay, yeah, we can

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<v Speaker 1>get it like in a couple of days. Easy, peasy, lemon,

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<v Speaker 1>freaking squeezy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, this is good. I'm actually kind of excited

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<v Speaker 2>for this photo shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as all out as we went last year

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<v Speaker 1>with the zombie shoot, that one where Nicole bashed my

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<v Speaker 1>head in, but it's it's gonna be fun. It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>That was voted on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it was voted on, and well, they voted whether

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<v Speaker 1>I kill you or you kill me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I'm not an evil person. Or maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>voted that I was an evil person. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>would make more it'd be more fitting. It was that way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what the vote was was, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>more sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, never mind, take it back.

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<v Speaker 1>So you are the evil person, I'm the evil person.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a Patreon vote, wasn't it that

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<v Speaker 1>we went to?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and speaking of patrons, don't we have some

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<v Speaker 2>to think we do.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great segue. So people that signed up for

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<v Speaker 1>Patreon get that behind the scenes access. They get the

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive episode library where we come up with an extra

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<v Speaker 1>episode at the end of each month. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to Martha Hatfield, JD the media. Thank you JD specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a local friend of ours. Nicole Baptiste, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are amazing. You signed up, you get all that. And

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<v Speaker 1>also I do have to say today's case is also

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<v Speaker 1>a Patreon recommended case, Okay, and Nicole actually recommended this

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<v Speaker 1>one as well, So Nicole Baptiste, you are the one

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<v Speaker 1>who recommended this case. And I went and did some

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<v Speaker 1>research right away and here we are. Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And like right before this, we just recorded

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<v Speaker 2>a fifteen minute pre show and you know, dropped some

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<v Speaker 2>life events.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they get it where it's at it is.

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<v Speaker 1>They get all that behind the scenes goodness for sure. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking for a while of creating like a

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<v Speaker 1>VIP Patreon thing where maybe it's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>sticker club or something we send up monthly stickers or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like, don't I don't know, maybe we should

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Patreon, see what you think of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that's kind of VIP. It would be cool. It

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<v Speaker 2>would be monthly mail. Gosh, it's like a penpal kind

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<v Speaker 2>of Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be like we could write like mystery like

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<v Speaker 1>true crime things that we just make up, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but it could be like a mystery letter where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been We can have these fake penpals

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<v Speaker 1>where he's confessing a murder for like over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of an entire year or something like that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>finally on that last letter, Oh my god, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>you get it's like solved and you figure it out

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, or something like that. I think something

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<v Speaker 1>like that would be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that is cool, but it's also like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know right now, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to you go through the process of a whole year.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, sometimes good things are worth the way,

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<v Speaker 2>right Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe we'll go over to Patreon here in a

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<v Speaker 1>little while and uh and see what they have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>But for now, I think we got to jump into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So today we are heading to Arlington, Virginia in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten, So in the late hours of February fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>transitioning into the early mornings of February fifth, Corporal T. L. Clifford,

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<v Speaker 1>seasoned officer with the Arlington Police Department, noticed something a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit peculiar in the area. See for eight years,

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<v Speaker 1>he had been patrolling an area known as the quote

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<v Speaker 1>Valley Beat, becoming familiar with, you know, the usual activities,

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<v Speaker 1>the regular people, the normal things that happened, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>the good, the bad, the ugly, right, okay, so he

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<v Speaker 1>he could spot pretty much any unusual behavior in an

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<v Speaker 1>instant and that night something definitely caught his attention. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a silver dodged Durango as it was creepy, started

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<v Speaker 1>creeping and slowly going along Sherlington Road. It was behaving

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that seemed out of place. Though the

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<v Speaker 1>Durraguo eventually left the area, it wasn't long before the

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle once again reappeared, raising further questions in the officer's mind.

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<v Speaker 1>He's sitting here thinking, what are they doing? Who is

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't it doesn't quite seem right. So this time though,

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<v Speaker 1>the Durango was moving slowly near a place dubbed four

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<v Speaker 1>Mile Run, which is a popular route for cyclists and joggers.

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<v Speaker 1>Hence you know four mile run.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, Officer Clifford watched as the suv parked between

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<v Speaker 1>two trucks by a bike path. The driver switched off

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<v Speaker 1>the headlights and sat idling for about fifteen minutes. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though the headlights were off, the vehicle was idling and

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<v Speaker 1>still on. Then after about fifteen minutes or so, turned

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<v Speaker 1>the headlights back on and took off. Huh, Officer Clifford

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<v Speaker 1>knew something wasn't right. As I said before, he can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see if something's out of the ordinary, almost

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<v Speaker 1>in an instant, and this was out of the ordinary. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the driver hadn't exactly committed any visible offense, or he's

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<v Speaker 1>not doing any sort of crime just by driving and parking, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but the situation was odd enough that he ran the

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<v Speaker 1>license plate just in case the search came back clean.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no warrants, no red flags attached to the

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle at all, still, just in case. He jotted the

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<v Speaker 1>ever need it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like how observant he's being.

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<v Speaker 1>This is good, right, He's doing his due diligence, that's

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Totally so little did did he know, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that this small detail would later help lead to the

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<v Speaker 1>capture of a dangerous serial rapist and murderer. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the man that was behind this durango uh huh

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<v Speaker 1>was most likely scouting for his next victim.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>So the following day, on February fifth into the sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the same kind of like transition from day

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<v Speaker 1>to night to day. Right, the durango yet made another.

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<v Speaker 2>Appearance sack Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The city was especially quiet due to a massive snowstorm

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<v Speaker 1>that had nearly paralyzed the entire city and area. Things

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<v Speaker 1>to work or anywhere around. Right, So Officer Clifford saw

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle again and continued to keep an eye on it.

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<v Speaker 1>This time, it parked in a dimly lit spot near

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<v Speaker 1>some local bars. Its headlights once again were switched off,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sat idling before driving away. Eventually, after a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes, trusting his gut, Officer Clifford contacted a fellow officer,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Nascelli, who is nearby, and he asked him to

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<v Speaker 1>keep an eye out for this suspicious durangle that was

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<v Speaker 1>headed in his direction. Officer Necelli agreed. However, their surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>was quickly cut short when they were called to respond

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<v Speaker 1>to a nearby traffic incident instead, So while dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the incident, fate would intervene. The durango passed them by,

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<v Speaker 1>windows rolled down as it drive by them. For the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, Officer Clifford got a very clear look at

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<v Speaker 1>the driver. It was a clean shaven young man wearing

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I was like waiting for some reason. I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking that someone, a victim was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, okay, no, there's nothing suspicious other than.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he got a clear look at at him.

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<v Speaker 1>Now yeah, okay, yeah, there's nothing actually suspicious about this

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<v Speaker 1>individual outright to the officers, it was just something's not

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta trust those gout feelings sometimes you do. Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I don't know. I try. I don't trust

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I try hard to make sure I do, because lots

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<v Speaker 2>of times you're just like no, it's like it's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fine, but you gotta kind of listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes it's saying something to you for it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so now.

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<v Speaker 1>In the early hours of February tenth, in twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty five year old woman who will call Michelle,

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<v Speaker 1>was walking with her boyfriend or walking to her boyfriend's

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<v Speaker 1>house in Arlington, Virginia. Michelle had just finished her night

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<v Speaker 1>shift as an r nurse. Now, due to another winter

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<v Speaker 1>storm that had hit the area, she was released from

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<v Speaker 1>Norwork Quincy Street, an unsettling presence lurked nearby, and suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>she turned to confront him, but before she could react,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle refused, and when she resisted, the attacker pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>a knife to further threaten her life, most likely so

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<v Speaker 1>So in a desperate attempt to escape, Michelle fought back,

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<v Speaker 1>struggling fiercely before breaking free, dropping her purse, and she

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<v Speaker 1>to her boyfriend's house. When she arrived, she immediately called police.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she got away. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Though shaken Shell was able to give the authorities a

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<v Speaker 1>clear description of her attacker's face. However, when it came

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been a light colored suv, possibly tan,

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<v Speaker 1>but wasn't entirely sure. The incident was quickly broadcast over

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<v Speaker 1>police radios, catching the attention of Officer Clifford, who was

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<v Speaker 1>listened to the details, something clicked. He couldn't shake the

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<v Speaker 1>suspicion that this attack could be linked to the silver Durango,

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<v Speaker 1>an suv that he had observed behaving suspiciously just a

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<v Speaker 1>few days earlier. When he voiced his thoughts to another officer,

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<v Speaker 1>though his concerns were dismissed and the connection wasn't pursued.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because a Dodge dra Ango is an suv.

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason, I was thinking it was a truck.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, so that's why right away I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a different person, but it might not be.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's a here, this is what it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a twenty twenty five because that's what pops

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<v Speaker 1>up when you google it right away, the most recent.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's okay, okay, and go yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he saw this silver colored suv, wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>license plate down, and now a woman a couple days

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<v Speaker 1>later is being trying to be forced into a light

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<v Speaker 1>yeah this would things would tie into a much larger

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<v Speaker 1>and more horrifying pattern of crime unfolding in the area.

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<v Speaker 1>Because two weeks later, on Saturday, February twenty seventh, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>At around two am, a woman who I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>Street when a man approached her. He approached her from behind,

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<v Speaker 1>and he told her he had a gun and ordered

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<v Speaker 1>her to get into his suv. Like Michelle before her,

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<v Speaker 1>Helen refused. A struggle broke out. The attacker pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>a taser, pressing it against her neck. Now, miraculously, the

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<v Speaker 1>taser failed to fire, giving Helen a chance to break

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<v Speaker 1>but once again, just like Michelle's case, the man disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>before authorities could arrive. Just two hours after that, two

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<v Speaker 1>hours later, on the same street, another attack occurred. At

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<v Speaker 1>four a m. Two twenty three year old grad students

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm going to call Diane and Sammy were walking

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<v Speaker 1>home from a night out with friends. As they approached

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<v Speaker 1>Diane's house on North Wakefield Street, Pawed the two women

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<v Speaker 1>paused outside while Diane searched her purse for keys. Suddenly,

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<v Speaker 1>a man stepped out from behind a parked car and

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<v Speaker 1>brandished a gun, acting quickly he forced both the women

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<v Speaker 1>inside Diane's home. Oh my goshh this time he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave opportunity for someone to break free and run.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, well, I mean, yeah, he's had a lot well

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<v Speaker 2>that we know of a lot of misses, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean there could be times in between that.

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<v Speaker 1>There could definitely be other cases or other things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, this just reminded me too. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>my sister saying, because like I don't know, as a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>like you have to be kind of like observant to

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<v Speaker 2>a degree. And I'm sure men do too, but more

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<v Speaker 2>so women because a lot of women they'll like say

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<v Speaker 2>that they're grocery shopping or they're doing something, and then

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards they like sit in their car or like just

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<v Speaker 2>to get their their bearings or like see what's on

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<v Speaker 2>their list to do next or whatever. And she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>always lock your door when you're doing that, and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this like she's just like digging in her purse, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, yeah, for one second, probably not totally aware

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<v Speaker 2>of her surroundings.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, now I understand I may not be as

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable or a target quite as like you might be

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation, but still saying I always lock my doors.

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<v Speaker 1>If I am sitting in a parking lot, locked right.

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<v Speaker 2>Away, I know why not? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well, I mean, all it takes is for someone

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<v Speaker 1>to decide you were target for one reason or another.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is because you know you are a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's because hey, maybe they saw me at

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<v Speaker 1>the cash register in the grocery store and saw I

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<v Speaker 1>had a twenty in my wallet. Like you know, who

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<v Speaker 1>knows the reasoning you should always lock your doors?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I always find I'm most nervous, say if we're

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<v Speaker 2>at the grocery store together and say I'm in the

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<v Speaker 2>car while it's running and you're running it in and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like in the fastener seat. Yeah, That's when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always like, Okay, this door needs to be locked, because

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<v Speaker 2>some would easily just like pulp in the driver's seat

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<v Speaker 2>and like take off.

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<v Speaker 1>For a one hundred percent. So well, and I even

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<v Speaker 1>have a That's one of the reasons why I carry

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<v Speaker 1>a pocket knife with me is because you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're in an instant, I have something to help defend

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<v Speaker 1>you or me or whatever. And there's many times where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like we're walking by someone that seems a

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<v Speaker 1>little shady. I usually try and put myself between them

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<v Speaker 1>and you, and I have my hand in my pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's ready for an elbow to throw up if

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<v Speaker 1>I need. Like, there's these things that cross my mind

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<v Speaker 1>in many scenarios. Yeah, but I do agree. Many times

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<v Speaker 1>it is women who are more susceptible, which is very unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>But we digress back to the case. So, once they

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<v Speaker 1>are pushed inside, he asked Diane if anyone else was

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<v Speaker 1>in the home, though she had a roommate sleeping upstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>Diane lied.

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<v Speaker 2>She told him no, Okay, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the man then ordered both women to kneel

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<v Speaker 1>in the living room and he tied their hands together

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<v Speaker 1>using a vacuum cleaner cord. After binding them, the man

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<v Speaker 1>left the room. Diane Sammy immediately began working to loosen

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<v Speaker 1>the restraints and they were nearly free when the attacker returned.

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<v Speaker 1>Enraged at their attempt, he retied their hands using a

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<v Speaker 1>an iron like an iron cord. This time he's also

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<v Speaker 1>using an iron cord.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like that would hold very well, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think it would. I don't think it would, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he retied their hands, and at knife point, forced both

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<v Speaker 1>women into a bedroom using a knife that he grabbed,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely from the kitchen. The women complied, but as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as the man left the room again, they sprang

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<v Speaker 1>into action. Diane threw herself against the door, slamming it

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<v Speaker 1>shut behind the man. Sammy, still holding her phone in

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<v Speaker 1>her pocket, quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Dialed nine okay one, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not too sure if the I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the phone could fully connect. I'm not certain exactly, but

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<v Speaker 1>the attacker burst back into the room and smashed the

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<v Speaker 1>phone against the wall. He then grabbed Sammy, dragging her

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<v Speaker 1>out of the house and down the street, and forced

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<v Speaker 1>her into the suv and sped away.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile inside the house, Diane began screaming and making as

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<v Speaker 1>much noise as possible, banging the vacuum cleaner, which was

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<v Speaker 1>binding her wrists. Yeah around to wake up her roommate upstairs,

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<v Speaker 1>who rushed down and together they immediately called nine one

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<v Speaker 1>one from there. Okay, so I'm not sure if the

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<v Speaker 1>nine one one call on the cell phone went through

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<v Speaker 1>or not, but regardless, it was like a minute later

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<v Speaker 1>they're dialing nine one one again.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this guy kind of realized he couldn't take both

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<v Speaker 2>of them on. Yes, kind of thing, it seems, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, kesh. Sorry. Diane told authorities that the assailant was

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<v Speaker 1>so young he could have passed for a high schooler.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Also bald, clean shaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I can remember how the officer described clean shaven,

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<v Speaker 2>clean shaven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, the man drove Sammy away from the scene, forcing

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<v Speaker 1>her to lie low in the back of the seat,

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<v Speaker 1>pushing her head down of trying to avoid drawing any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of attention, and once he reached the remote location,

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<v Speaker 1>he parked the car and climbed into the back seat

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<v Speaker 1>with her, where he subjected her to a horrifying assault.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh no.

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<v Speaker 1>He first forced her to perform oral sex and then

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<v Speaker 1>put a put on a condom, saying quote, I'm not stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>before raping her.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, yeah, you are, your stupid piece of shit. Actually yeah, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>actually he is. Yeah, yeah, he's totally wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Rare yep. The assault continued, and when it was over,

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<v Speaker 1>the man wrapped her head and mouth with packing tape

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<v Speaker 1>and placed her on the floor in the back seat.

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<v Speaker 1>He then drove toward Prince William County Virginia, stopping in

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<v Speaker 1>a secluded area near the highway. There he assaulted her

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<v Speaker 1>once again, and when he was finished, he took the

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<v Speaker 1>scarf that she had been wearing, wrapped it around her

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<v Speaker 1>neck and began tightening it. She was terrified and cried

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<v Speaker 1>out what are you doing, to which the man replied,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think I'm doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, please tell me she lives.

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<v Speaker 1>He continued to tighten the scarf until Sammy went limp,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he disposed of her in the woods and

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<v Speaker 1>drove away.

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<v Speaker 2>Did she die?

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<v Speaker 1>Hours later, at eight am, Thomas and Lynn Love were

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<v Speaker 1>driving near Prince William Forest Park along the Alps Road,

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<v Speaker 1>same area where Sammy was dumped, when they spotted something

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<v Speaker 1>unusual in the snow. A young woman crawling through the snow. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>badly injured, but alive. It was Sammy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Wow, Sammy, that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>She managed to tell police that her attacker had been

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<v Speaker 1>driving a silver SUV just like the other assaults. Her

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<v Speaker 1>survivor or her survival would soon play a very crucial

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<v Speaker 1>brutal attacks.

426
00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:29.680
<v Speaker 2>What a complete piece of garbage, She just like did

427
00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:32.640
<v Speaker 2>what he wanted and just like disposed of her like

428
00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:33.559
<v Speaker 2>she was nothing.

429
00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just just pieced out.

430
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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that is just so disgusting that.

431
00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:41.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, So.

432
00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Officered Clifford once again heard the call, and he knew

433
00:21:46.119 --> 00:21:48.400
<v Speaker 1>this time it must be related to the durangle that

434
00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:52.160
<v Speaker 1>he had seen before. They ran the plate number that

435
00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:54.799
<v Speaker 1>he had written down, because remember he wrote it down

436
00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:57.519
<v Speaker 1>and it was registered to a young man by the

437
00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.839
<v Speaker 1>name of Jorge Leva torri Is. Now I'm going to

438
00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:02.599
<v Speaker 1>refer to him as George from here on out because

439
00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:05.400
<v Speaker 1>it's I'm not a Spanish speaking and Joe is not

440
00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:08.079
<v Speaker 1>my instinct to how to pronounce it. So I'm just

441
00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:10.119
<v Speaker 1>going to go George, and many other people do just

442
00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:13.920
<v Speaker 1>say George's for the easy, you know, translation sort of thing.

443
00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, So his name is Jorge, but I am

444
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<v Speaker 1>going to be saying George from here.

445
00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Now.

446
00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:20.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh, they believe that one of the survivors from the attack,

447
00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:23.160
<v Speaker 1>so they brought not believe they brought one of the

448
00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:26.400
<v Speaker 1>survivors from the attacks into the station. Now, what they

449
00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.200
<v Speaker 1>did from here is they showed her a picture lineup

450
00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of several different individuals who could potentially be a suspect. Right,

451
00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to see if she could identify.

452
00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:40.519
<v Speaker 2>George George within there, Yeah, okay, she was.

453
00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Able to identify without a doubt that he was the

454
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<v Speaker 1>one who attacked them.

455
00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:50.400
<v Speaker 2>So he's like not even going about like covering his

456
00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:54.359
<v Speaker 2>face or anything. No, Oh my gosh, And I'm not stupid.

457
00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:55.720
<v Speaker 2>You are a stupid piece of shit.

458
00:22:57.319 --> 00:22:58.559
<v Speaker 3>Holy shit, Like.

459
00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:00.440
<v Speaker 1>You're just out in them. You are stupid.

460
00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, he's much more than a stupid piece of shit,

461
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:04.799
<v Speaker 2>but like, oh, what an idiot?

462
00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, I'm I'm not a fan of George.

463
00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, none of us are here.

464
00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:13.240
<v Speaker 1>No. So, after he was identified from the picture lineup,

465
00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>immediately a warrant for his arrest was sent out. So

466
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:22.880
<v Speaker 1>there was helicopters circling the neighborhood. There was like canine units.

467
00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:26.279
<v Speaker 1>There was they were knocking on doors, questioning neighbors, all

468
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:28.039
<v Speaker 1>this sort of stuff. They were they were going through,

469
00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:29.599
<v Speaker 1>They were trying to find them. They were doing what

470
00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:33.680
<v Speaker 1>they needed to do to bring George in. Now a

471
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit of background on George. So George Aliyah, sorry

472
00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Jorge for the reference of this one, but I will say, George,

473
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<v Speaker 1>I'm here now. So Jorge Aliva Torres was born on

474
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<v Speaker 1>August eighteenth, nineteen eighty eight, and he was raised in Zion, Illinois.

475
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<v Speaker 1>No according to the reports, the reports in the Washington

476
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<v Speaker 1>Sorry the Washingtonian, Washingtonian, I think it's how you say it.

477
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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, according to the reports in that Georgie, his

478
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.440
<v Speaker 1>parents were immigrants from Mexico. His father worked in a

479
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:07.200
<v Speaker 1>cardboard factory while his mother was a homemaker. Now George

480
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:10.319
<v Speaker 1>grew up in Sorry with one sister, Sarah, and the

481
00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>two shared a particularly close bond. Throughout high school, George

482
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>frequently skipped classes and often found himself in minor trouble. However,

483
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.400
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and five, he faced more serious consequences

484
00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:24.599
<v Speaker 1>when he was caught with marijuana, leading to his expulsion

485
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:29.279
<v Speaker 1>from school. Now, most of the time he did didn't

486
00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:31.799
<v Speaker 1>get into much trouble. He wasn't really much of a

487
00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:34.200
<v Speaker 1>smoker or drinker like many of the older kids, and

488
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:36.119
<v Speaker 1>it led to like some of his friends' parents actually

489
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:38.839
<v Speaker 1>liking him quite a bit. But he was quite he

490
00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:40.880
<v Speaker 1>was quite an outcast, and he was apparently really into

491
00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:42.880
<v Speaker 1>like mountain biking. I don't know if it was like

492
00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>mountain biking on trails, but he had a mountain bike.

493
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>They'd definitely be riding around the neighborhood and stuff. And

494
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:49.359
<v Speaker 1>he had a collection of throwing stars that he really

495
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>liked as well, and he was not reportedly very good

496
00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:52.720
<v Speaker 1>with the ladies.

497
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, throwing stars, what do you do with that?

498
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:56.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You throw them?

499
00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Are they like sharp? Or are they going into you?

500
00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Throw the mentature kind of thing?

501
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Or yeah, ninja throwing someone.

502
00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's what I was thinking, but I wasn't certain

503
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<v Speaker 2>that's exactly.

504
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>What they were. Okay, yeah, But despite his setback of

505
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>smoking marijuana, George managed to graduate from the Zion Benton

506
00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Township High School in two thousand and six. After graduation,

507
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>George wasted no time and immediately enlisted in the Marine Corps.

508
00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Course Marine Corps, I'm bad, there you go. By April

509
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:28.279
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine, he was stationed at Joint Base

510
00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Meyer Henderson Hall in Arlington, Virginia, where he performed administrative duties.

511
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Now he resided on base in Keith Hall, a facility

512
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that how is the mix of personnel including male and

513
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>female Marine sailors and a few airmen as well. Friends

514
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:50.079
<v Speaker 1>described George as dependable. He was an individual who had

515
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.759
<v Speaker 1>a passion for cars, trucks, video games, his bikes, you know,

516
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:55.799
<v Speaker 1>his ninja throwing stars. He was also known as the

517
00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:57.559
<v Speaker 1>type marine who would go out of his way to

518
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<v Speaker 1>help others, even giving you, you know, the off his

519
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>back if need be.

520
00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh, this description is actually making him seem like not

521
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.079
<v Speaker 2>a terrible person. Yeah, I'm not enjoying this.

522
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, that's that's exactly the case. He seems

523
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:14.319
<v Speaker 1>like he's not a terrible person. Yeah, he doesn't seem

524
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>like the type of individual who could actually commit these crimes. Right,

525
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:21.880
<v Speaker 1>So the question was was it George? Is it actually him?

526
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, right, I didn't even go there. As you're reading this,

527
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it is him.

528
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Well that's kind of what officers were thinking. It's like, Okay,

529
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't really match up too well, but you know,

530
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:36.799
<v Speaker 1>it is his vehicle, that's what it's registered to. So

531
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go question him. We're gonna go see. So

532
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:42.559
<v Speaker 1>officers approached George's vehicle in the parking lot outside of

533
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Keith's Hall, where he was stationed. They decided to take

534
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>a quick glance through the windows, and what they saw

535
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit chilling, because in the back seat

536
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:51.599
<v Speaker 1>they spotted an iron.

537
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh, which is what she was tied up in.

538
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Which is exactly what the victim was described to be

539
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:02.599
<v Speaker 1>tied up in. Right, So George was nowhere in sight,

540
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 1>but his vehicle was there, so they chose not to

541
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>act immediately. Instead, they decided to wait and keep an

542
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 1>eye on the car. So they kind of scouted out

543
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the car and laid in wait, hoping that, you know what,

544
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.559
<v Speaker 1>they could apprehend him when he returned. It was less

545
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>than twelve hours after he left Sammy for dead that

546
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>George strolled casually towards his vehicle, completely unaware that he

547
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 1>was being monitored, and he was quickly taken into custody.

548
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>During questioning, George didn't really behave like the stereotypical criminal.

549
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>In fact, the officers described him as cordial and cooperative.

550
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Throughout the two hour interview, George consistently maintained his innocence,

551
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.680
<v Speaker 1>acting as though he had no knowledge of the events.

552
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Despite his calm demeanor, the interrogation led nowhere in terms

553
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 1>of confession. They had nothing.

554
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm almost wondering if someone else is using his vehicle

555
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>at times or has access to his vehicle, is what

556
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking.

557
00:27:55.519 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, there was evidence that would be damning against

558
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>George that would tell a bit of a different story

559
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>than what he's telling. Inside his vehicle, police found several

560
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>critical items, the iron cord used to buying the victims,

561
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 1>a stun gun used in one of the attacks, packing

562
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:22.319
<v Speaker 1>tape that matched what was used to restrain one of

563
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 1>the women. Among personal effects recovered were Sammy's college ID

564
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>card and an earring that had fallen out in the

565
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 1>backseat during the attack. Additionally, blood found in the vehicle

566
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>would later confirm to belong to Sammy. The search for

567
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:38.799
<v Speaker 1>George's room revealed he had more incriminating evidence, including a

568
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>ten millimeters semi automatic glock and ammunition. With the overwhelming

569
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>physical evidence against him, George's facade of innocence began to crumble.

570
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>They also found a pair of Nike sneakers that investigators

571
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:55.519
<v Speaker 1>believed George had worn during the attack on Michelle, Sammy,

572
00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>and Diane. Adding to the damning evidence. A shirt discover

573
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 1>in his possession had bloodstains that were later confirmed to

574
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>belong to Sammy. George's computer revealed even more disturbing details.

575
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.319
<v Speaker 1>It was a treasure trove of incriminating material containing a

576
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>deep unsettling history. Investigators uncovered dozens of save photos and

577
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>videos depicting violent sexual acts, with titles such as quote

578
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 1>all rape videos, best forced sex, forced sex scenes, rape collection,

579
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 1>and sleep assault movies.

580
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, I mean, gosh, I guess like if I

581
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>mean the evidence is pointing to him, you can never

582
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:42.599
<v Speaker 2>know someone could. There's many cases where people come across

583
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 2>just totally fine, but then they're actually like a secret monster.

584
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Exactly Well, I mean, look at the classic case of

585
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the situation, Ted Bundy. How he was able to charm

586
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, no I'm innocent and people loved him, but

587
00:29:58.200 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 1>he killed how many fucking people?

588
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 2>M hmm. There's a lot like that, like the Barbie

589
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:03.039
<v Speaker 2>and Ken killers.

590
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Exactly right. Yeah, so George had also previously visited a

591
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>website that provided instructions on how to make chloroform. Despite

592
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>his repeat claims of innocence, the evidence stacked up against

593
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 1>him was just overwhelming.

594
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 3>Dang.

595
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Now, the final and most damning piece of evidence that

596
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>came but which really puts the idea of it being

597
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>someone else who was using his vehicle aside. Yeah, this

598
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 1>this collapses that it was a rape kit that was

599
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>conducted on Sammy DNA collected from her linked George directly

600
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to the crime. Is your earlier statement when he's putting

601
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 1>on a condom quote, I'm not stupid. Yeah, no, he's

602
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 1>fucking stupid.

603
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh. Okay.

604
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>With this conclusive evidence, George was charged with all three

605
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>attacks that occurred. In February twenty ten. He faced fourteen

606
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>total charges, including use of a firearm, abduction with intent

607
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to defile, robbery, arm breaking and entering, rape, and forcible sodomy,

608
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 1>according to the court records. While awaiting trial, George was

609
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>held at the Arlington County Detention Facility. How you doing

610
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 1>so far?

611
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Fine? I just okay, I don't know. Right as you

612
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>were saying that, I had this thought that maybe he

613
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 2>doesn't survive in there. And then also I still have

614
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>this little weird feeling that it wasn't him, and I

615
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know why. I don't know why.

616
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:29.799
<v Speaker 1>So it was him.

617
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it was him, it was him.

618
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Kay, you can put that to sleep. That's what I

619
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>was saying. With the DNA link.

620
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Lash, Okay, like it's one hundred and ten percent.

621
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, they did DNA. They got his DNA from

622
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 1>a rape victim.

623
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 2>No, he yeah, And this was like twenty ten, you said,

624
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 2>I think right, correct, So yeah, he and he was

625
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>born in eighty eight, so he was like twenty two,

626
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 2>like very young?

627
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, holy shit?

628
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh man, Okay, I don't know why that shocks me.

629
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:04.160
<v Speaker 2>You always think young people maybe aren't monsters, but I.

630
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Guess there are anyone could be a fucking monster. Yeah, honestly. Yeah.

631
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>But we have flown through this case so far in

632
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>all honesty, so this might be a little bit of

633
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 1>a shorter episode today. But I do got to say

634
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.359
<v Speaker 1>this to wrap this up here. With all this stuff

635
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>in mind, there is something that separates George's case from

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<v Speaker 1>many others, because what George had been charged with was

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<v Speaker 1>only the tip of the iceberg. Because by June of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten, once authorities put George's DNA that was now

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<v Speaker 1>collected into the database, they immediately got another DNA match

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<v Speaker 1>from a previously unsolved case. His DNA match that of

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<v Speaker 1>a sample collected from a double murder of two little

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<v Speaker 1>girls five years earlier. The victims were Laura Hobbes and

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<v Speaker 1>Crystal to Bias, and we will cover their story in

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<v Speaker 1>part two.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yes, hey, two little girls. We don't know their

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<v Speaker 2>ages from five years earlier. You're probably not gonna give

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<v Speaker 2>me any information here, and what kind of DNA was

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<v Speaker 2>on them? Oh my gosh, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You got you gotta tune into Park truly.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit because he would have been like seventeen years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay, yeah, you're good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I want to keep listening. What else you got

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<v Speaker 2>for us? Just kidding, that's all I got for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving it there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Okay, dang, because you know what, I literally

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<v Speaker 2>before you said that, had this thought. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>not that that what he doesn't isn't terrible, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, he hasn't murdered. He didn't like successfully murder anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know is good. He still did horror horrible things,

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<v Speaker 2>but I guess he did murder some people. Yeah hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>innocent people that like couldn't really defend themselves near as

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<v Speaker 2>much as like a full grown person.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, okay, Okay, there we.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, So tune in on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how many people are just cursing you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably a lot. I mean, it's going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the title that it's a part one, So I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>that there. To my defense, it's in the title part one.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so intel, Okay. The silver lining is we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait a whole stink and week. We just

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait until Friday. Well I actually only have

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<v Speaker 2>to wait until Thursday. Ha ha, just kidding, just kidding. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I just threw some heat there.

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<v Speaker 1>No shit, Nicole's talking and throwing shaky.

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<v Speaker 2>I just took the blame off you and put it

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<v Speaker 2>on me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome, thank you. I appreciate it. Now you're the

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<v Speaker 1>bad guy. I'm the bad guy, and that's why people

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<v Speaker 1>think you're more likely to kill me in his on

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<v Speaker 1>the scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, earlier you're like, yeah, I always put myself between

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<v Speaker 2>you and everyone else, and here I'm like boom, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, yeah, I do appreciate that you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know often I'm like, I'm fine, I'm falling, but

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<v Speaker 2>that is fine. I know I don't carry a knife.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably should. It's not a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought you a hidden knife once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like in a pen. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what am I supposed to do with this?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just keep it in your purse and if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever need it and it's there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I'm pretty sure you've just thrown it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell people that.

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<v Speaker 1>But now she carries a machete on her at all

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<v Speaker 1>times and an AK forty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So hopefully you guys aren't too mad at us, because

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<v Speaker 1>yeah that this is part one, but part two will

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<v Speaker 1>be coming out soon. Make sure you come back and

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. Make sure you go down description, follow

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<v Speaker 1>us on all your socials, give us a review. We

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you being here. Because of people like you, the

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<v Speaker 1>show keeps coming out with more episodes, So thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are supporting us, and you make this show

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<v Speaker 1>what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You make the show great.

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<v Speaker 1>You make the show wicked.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I like it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? How was that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's great?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, we'll see you guys on Friday. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you then and until

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<v Speaker 2>Then, stay Wicked
