1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:09,519 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. Tonight's 2 00:00:09,519 --> 00:00:12,279 guest is Heather from the state of Orgon, and what 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,640 started as a peaceful, gold panting trip deep in the 4 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:19,760 mountains near Cottage Grove slowly turned into something she still 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:25,120 struggles to explain. Isolated miles from town with no cell signal, 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,120 Heather began hearing woodnocks, strange voices, laughter in the forest, 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,679 and terrifying screams echoing through the wilderness. What she first 8 00:00:34,679 --> 00:00:37,759 believed was a person watching her in the woods may 9 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:42,520 have been something far more mysterious. Tonight, Heather shares her encounters, 10 00:00:42,799 --> 00:00:46,759 the strange dreams that followed, and the eerie activity that 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,119 changed the way she looks at the forest of Oregon forever. 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Have you had a similar experience, If so, feel free 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,119 to reach out at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com 14 00:00:57,159 --> 00:00:59,439 if you would like to share your bigfoot encounters here 15 00:00:59,679 --> 00:01:03,520 on the Sasquatch Theory Podcast. With all that being said, 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,159 let's dive straight into our next bigfoot report from the 17 00:01:08,239 --> 00:01:25,599 state of Oregon. All right, Heather, welcome to Sasquatch Theory. 18 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,599 How are you doing today? 19 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. How are you. 20 00:01:29,719 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing excellent and it's an absolute pleasure to have 21 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,280 you on the show. Heather. If you would tell me 22 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:40,319 a little bit about yourself, where you're from, and your 23 00:01:40,359 --> 00:01:43,359 bigfoot experiences from the very beginning, please. 24 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: Sure. Thanks for having me. I will say, I am 25 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,359 an avid outdoorsman, and so I've been traveling coast to 26 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:58,560 coast and all over the United States, even Alaska for 27 00:01:58,599 --> 00:02:00,959 a very long time. So I don't don't really claim 28 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,920 where I'm from. I just kind of consider myself a 29 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,199 citizen of the world. But that being said, everywhere I go, 30 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,719 the destination is always to be outdoors, to be in 31 00:02:11,759 --> 00:02:16,719 the woods, to be with nature. So that's that's where 32 00:02:16,759 --> 00:02:17,719 I'm most comfortable. 33 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that with me, And if you 34 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,599 would tell me about your first bigfoot experience and kind 35 00:02:26,599 --> 00:02:30,319 of put me in your shoes and how you got 36 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:30,840 into all that. 37 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I was in a transition of life, was 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,680 making some big changes, big decisions, and overcoming some hardship, 39 00:02:43,719 --> 00:02:45,599 and I decided the best place for me to be 40 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:48,960 is away from people and out into nature. And so 41 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:54,680 I sought out kind of an austere location where I 42 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,840 could go for the summer and go gold panning all summer, 43 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,800 which is one of my hobbies. And I chose I 44 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,080 found a place and found something new and set me 45 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:11,960 up to the place near the Bohemian Mining District outside 46 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,960 of Cottage Grove, Oregon. And that was in the summer 47 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:23,599 of twenty twenty. So I took my camper and went 48 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:30,280 out to this location and it was pretty isolated. It 49 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,159 was about eleven miles from the town and no cell signal, 50 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:40,039 no internet. No. I did have electricity, but that was it. 51 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,080 I didn't have any water, I didn't have anything, you know, 52 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:47,319 no modern amenities of the electricity. So it was perfect. 53 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,039 I was isolated, I was by myself. I was very excited. 54 00:03:51,159 --> 00:03:55,960 Nature was just in full bloom June and Oregon Central 55 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:02,319 Oregon is just a magical place, really long days, beautiful weather, 56 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,520 so I was very excited. I had it all lined 57 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,719 up and that's how I decided to go to the 58 00:04:10,719 --> 00:04:14,840 location I was at, just to lay some foreground. I 59 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:23,000 did not ever haven't experienced before. I have had some paranormal, 60 00:04:24,079 --> 00:04:28,360 supernatural kind of experiences, but I had never had any 61 00:04:28,439 --> 00:04:34,279 kind of sas squatch or bigfoot experience or actually even 62 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,079 I believed other people but I didn't ever think it 63 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:41,560 would happen to me, and I didn't ever look for it. 64 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,759 I mean, the main thing I ever worried about in 65 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:49,920 the woods would be a bigger predator or startling say deer, 66 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,240 an elk. Those are my main concerns. Is just basically 67 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,120 startling a larger animal, which I had done before. I mean, 68 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,160 I've walked up on large animals and so I kind 69 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,040 of that was my only concern. But usually once I 70 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,199 make my presence known, they don't they don't come around. 71 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:14,160 So I start my journey out there, I explore the area. Again, 72 00:05:14,199 --> 00:05:18,560 I have no technology to get a cell signal. I 73 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,560 had to drive about two and a half miles up 74 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,720 on a mountain ridge to get just barely a signal. 75 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:25,959 So I planned to do that once a day to 76 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,040 see if I had any like emergency phone calls or messages, 77 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,199 or if I got lonely to go call someone. But 78 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,879 otherwise I was in the river all day as long 79 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,160 as I could tolerate without getting a hypothermic panning for 80 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,079 gold and come back to the campsite and explore the 81 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:48,920 woods around. There was tons of apple wild apple trees 82 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,360 and plum trees. Everything was fruiting out very lush, very 83 00:05:54,439 --> 00:05:58,879 dense area. My friend had let me know that no 84 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,279 one had been on that proper in about five years. 85 00:06:01,959 --> 00:06:03,800 To get my camphor in, we had to cut trees, 86 00:06:04,439 --> 00:06:07,680 I had to cut, you know, limbs, clear the road. 87 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:15,879 So that's that's where I was, and I quickly became 88 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:21,519 very in tune with what was going on around me. Well, 89 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:23,680 like I said, there's not much to do inside the camphor, 90 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:26,399 you'll want to be outside. So I would be out 91 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,120 in the mornings from sun up until sun down. After 92 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,279 I'd bring my gold home, let's sit in the yard, 93 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,399 runs loose all day, you know, until it's dark, or 94 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,319 the mosquitoes eight me alive. So I'm listening to nature, 95 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:47,879 and you really become part of nature. All the cycles 96 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:50,680 that are happening around you. They adjust to you and 97 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:57,040 you adjust to them. And so I started listening, or 98 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,600 I started hearing something in a certain region of the 99 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:03,759 woods that I didn't go into. And it didn't go 100 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,079 in there because it's kind of surrounded that bury. Really 101 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,319 tall berry bushes in Oregon. If you know what these are, 102 00:07:11,519 --> 00:07:14,000 you can't traverse through them. They'll rip you apart. I mean, 103 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,199 some of them are five six foot tall. They're just impassable. 104 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,240 And so there was a lot of that around this 105 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:26,079 certain area of woods. But this is where I started 106 00:07:26,079 --> 00:07:30,600 to hear a wood knocks. And I didn't know what 107 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:33,079 they were at the time because I'd never listened to 108 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,480 anything online, never been exposed to anything, never been told 109 00:07:37,519 --> 00:07:41,399 about anything that may happen. So I just would remember 110 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,839 the things that happened commonly that I couldn't identify. And 111 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:48,000 so it started with the wood knox. And I would 112 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,639 hear something that would hit a tree and it was 113 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,480 too loud to be, just like a tree, you know, 114 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,279 with the winds hitting up against the other tree eat. 115 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,360 And then I would hear a similar one not far 116 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,160 away from that. And then and this would happen at 117 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,800 a certain time each day, and I didn't and I 118 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,120 would try to grab my phone and you know, listen 119 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,040 to it or record it real quick. I could never 120 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,279 capture it. But it wasn't a woodpecker. It was too 121 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:25,079 loud to be. It wasn't someone chopping on a tree. 122 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:28,240 It wasn't something I could identify. It wasn't a limb snapping. 123 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:31,240 And there was a time that I heard what it 124 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:35,080 sounded like a baseball that just whack a tree extremely hard, 125 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,080 same exact area, and there was no one that lived 126 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,639 back there. This is an area that I had google 127 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,320 earthed this area before I got there, even when I 128 00:08:47,399 --> 00:08:52,759 was just traversing, hiking around, you know, taking any trail 129 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,440 I could, walking the roadway, walking the pathways, anything I 130 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,879 could driving around, I quickly identify like warehouses were. Especially 131 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:05,720 after I started hearing things there, I thought, I don't 132 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:10,440 feel like I'm alone, and that's a weird sensation. From 133 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,240 the same area of woods, I also started to hear 134 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,879 what sounded like like maybe even music playing or some 135 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,639 sort of and it wasn't discernible like a type of 136 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:24,519 music or a word per se, but there was some 137 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,960 kind of chatter or something happening. It almost sounded musical. 138 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,000 And I thought, well, that's really weird. And this would 139 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,440 happened day after day in the same time of day though, 140 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,240 and it wouldn't. It wouldn't happen at night. This usually 141 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,639 happened during the day. Well, it was daylight, and so 142 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,240 then the noises there was like the noises started to add. 143 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,679 There started to be more and more noises. So then 144 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,360 it started with the music, and then it went to 145 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:58,279 the chatter, and then it sounded like laughter. I almost 146 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:01,519 felt like there was like a a child out there, 147 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:03,720 like a ten year old boy whacking trees and running 148 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:08,679 around and giggling and just playing. And I thought, what 149 00:10:08,759 --> 00:10:12,120 animal would sound like this? Like what what animals do this? 150 00:10:13,879 --> 00:10:15,840 And at this point, I'd already been on the property 151 00:10:15,879 --> 00:10:18,360 long enough to meet a couple of the locals, and 152 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,759 so when you're that far out, you quickly know that 153 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,360 you need each other, no matter who you are. So 154 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,159 I hadn't met a man, an older man across the 155 00:10:30,159 --> 00:10:33,440 way who had come and introduced himself, and he said 156 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,080 he would traverse through this in this land for the 157 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:39,200 last five years, knowing had been there. He would kind 158 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,919 of come and circle around and look at it, you know, 159 00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:44,120 kind of take care of it or whatever. And so 160 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,120 I would ask him about these noises. And I asked him, 161 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,000 you know, is what's over there? What's in the woods 162 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,799 over there? And he was like, nothing, you can't it's 163 00:10:51,879 --> 00:10:53,840 up against the river or you know, it goes to 164 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,919 the lake and there's there was an old trail there, 165 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,840 but it's all grown over with barry VARs. So I 166 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:04,919 was like, oh, just keep hearing some stuff over there, 167 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,679 and he assured me he would go check it out, 168 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,600 and there was nothing over He even brought a weed 169 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:14,159 eater and something to kind of clear the path so 170 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,399 we could walk back a little further to make sure 171 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,000 there was no one back there. So we did that, 172 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,279 and then as the time goes on, this isn't a 173 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:28,240 matter of days too, up to like two weeks when 174 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,120 I first arrived. Then I started hearing a baby cry. 175 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:40,039 And it was the weirdest sensation I had, like this 176 00:11:40,519 --> 00:11:44,759 maternal instinct that was pulling me so hard. It was 177 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,360 really hard for me not to go to this cry. 178 00:11:47,759 --> 00:11:52,440 I mean I was, I was lured really really strongly. 179 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:55,679 I wanted to go help whatever this was. I needed 180 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,960 to help it is what I was feeling, like, it 181 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,720 needs me. This thing is out there crying. And it 182 00:12:00,799 --> 00:12:02,720 wasn't a loud cry. It was a cry enough that 183 00:12:02,799 --> 00:12:05,639 once you hear it, it would go it would stop, 184 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:09,039 and then you'd stop thinking about it and kind of 185 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:11,480 try to put the pieces together. What did I just hear? 186 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:15,000 And then you'd hear it again, and then maybe it 187 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,840 wouldn't happen for a few days, and so I thought, well, 188 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,320 maybe it's birthing season or dear you know, I'm trying 189 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,200 to make sure I know the patterns of the wildlife there. 190 00:12:25,399 --> 00:12:28,759 I'm ruling out anything it could be. I'm listening. I'm 191 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:31,759 driving eleven miles of town in the evening to the 192 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:36,840 internet signal and listening to wildlife sounds and trying to 193 00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:40,360 make sure that I'm not I'm just trying to figure 194 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:42,120 out where it is actually, because I don't know. At 195 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,200 that point, nothing is making sense to me. I've already 196 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:48,840 heard and seen many many other variety of animals there 197 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,120 because they weren't used to seeing a human, they weren't 198 00:12:53,159 --> 00:12:57,000 as afraid of me, and I didn't have a dog 199 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,000 or anything that would bark at them. So just to 200 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,240 the quiet moments, we would all just coexist. I mean, 201 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,320 there'd be thirty turkeys that would just walk right up 202 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,039 to me and walk past me and walk over to 203 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,159 the river and get their get their drink and walk 204 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,759 off and bring their babies up. I mean, there was 205 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:19,080 there was no fear at certain points. Uh. So I 206 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,120 was identifying that the sounds that were around me, that 207 00:13:22,159 --> 00:13:24,960 there were still questionable ones that I couldn't quite put together. 208 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,320 And so I still at this point, don't have any internet, 209 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:36,600 I don't have any cell signal alone, and I'm it 210 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,399 was one of those days where I had worked really 211 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:40,919 hard and I was really tired and some laying in 212 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,440 bed and at the at my feet of the bed, 213 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:49,919 there's a window in the camper and I heard an 214 00:13:49,919 --> 00:13:53,600 owl and I thought, wow, that owl is like super 215 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:55,879 close to the window. I was like, how does that happen? 216 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,159 And so I was thinking, well, that's really cool, you know, 217 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:02,000 I'm glad it feels comfortable to be this close to 218 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,679 the to the camper. And then just a few seconds later, 219 00:14:06,759 --> 00:14:11,279 I hear this blood curdling scream just so loud. It 220 00:14:12,159 --> 00:14:15,200 it did not sound like an owl that I had 221 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:20,000 heard before, and it did not sound really authentic like 222 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:24,480 an owl. It sounded man made or some combination of 223 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:27,879 the two. It almost sound like a megaphone. And so 224 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,679 it startled me so badly, just frozen in with that, 225 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,919 and I thought, oh my god, I'm about to go 226 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,440 out there and see a murder scene from this owl 227 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:39,399 of whatever has killed. Maybe it's killing something right now, 228 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,600 and I'm going to go see the you know, holding 229 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:45,000 its carcass or something. That's all I could imagine so 230 00:14:45,039 --> 00:14:47,679 I kind of get the courage to slide off my 231 00:14:47,759 --> 00:14:50,919 bed and I kind of like slither army crawl across 232 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:54,639 the floor. And I had lived in Alaska before, so 233 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:57,840 I have quite a few I have a collection of, 234 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,919 you know, things to live outdoors, and so I have 235 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:07,000 some thermal, some thermal binoculars, and I grab those and 236 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,759 I creep over to the door of a camper. And 237 00:15:10,799 --> 00:15:13,200 I don't have any lights on that you know, there's 238 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,039 no lights on outside. I don't have any there's no 239 00:15:16,159 --> 00:15:19,840 lights on, and so I quietly open the door and 240 00:15:19,879 --> 00:15:22,120 I turn on the thermal and as soon as I 241 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,399 turn the thermal, I'm sitting down on the stairs to 242 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,919 the camper. As soon as I turn them on, I 243 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,639 start to hear it crunch crunch, crunch, crunch, and I 244 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,600 quickly identify its to my right and it's quite a 245 00:15:34,639 --> 00:15:38,279 distance away, and I pull the thermals up and I 246 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,399 see this shape of it looks like a human head, 247 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,480 humanoid head in the right shoulder, and it's walking away 248 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:51,720 from me, and I'm tracking it and it doesn't look 249 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:56,720 back at me, but it has hair. That is the 250 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,840 only way I describe it is kind of like wavy 251 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,840 early like a beach thumb Jesus' hair that just just 252 00:16:04,919 --> 00:16:09,879 kind of free flowing, and it looked not maintained, but 253 00:16:10,039 --> 00:16:12,399 it also was on its shoulder, and I thought, there's 254 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,320 no I was like, well, hey, there's a person, is 255 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,399 what I immediately thought. And then I thought, why is that 256 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,320 person that have a shirt on? And why do they 257 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,559 have so much hair on them? And I thought, oh 258 00:16:22,559 --> 00:16:24,720 my gosh, like who is this in the woods with me? 259 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:33,320 And then I realized that the where I was seated, 260 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,120 this property had like a hill in the middle over 261 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,559 to the the path where this humanoid was walking. And 262 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:46,080 so in the daytime, even when I'm sitting in a 263 00:16:46,159 --> 00:16:48,639 lawn chair at the camper exactly where I am, I 264 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:52,200 cannot see anyone that walks down there if there was someone, 265 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,480 Because occasionally people would find the trail by the river 266 00:16:55,919 --> 00:16:58,039 and they would walk down this trail and it would 267 00:16:58,039 --> 00:17:00,440 always startle me because I couldn't ever see see them. 268 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:03,279 But if I would walk over the ridge a little bit, 269 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,839 I would see them and I would think, oh, wow, 270 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,200 that's a I can't believe that person, you know, was there. 271 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:16,519 But uh, this uh whatever whatever this was was tall 272 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,599 enough that me seated on the floor, you know, like 273 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,839 on the the stairs of the RVY looking over this 274 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,319 hill thing. I could see the head and shoulders walking 275 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,160 away from me, and the cadence was slow enough and 276 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,400 it was moving fast enough that it also didn't make 277 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,119 sense to me. It wasn't registering to me how it 278 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,839 can move that fast with that flow of a cadence. 279 00:17:39,839 --> 00:17:44,200 And so I don't know what snapped in me. It 280 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,079 was like instinct, because I did think it was maybe 281 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,359 someone nefarious out there with me, and I thought, well, 282 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,319 they were just at my window and they were looking 283 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:56,519 or they were you know, like I didn't think that 284 00:17:56,599 --> 00:17:58,960 was an owl at this point. I thought it was 285 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,759 a human or I thought it was something that just 286 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:04,279 screamed in my window. Because that's now registering. Now I 287 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,640 know that was not out and now it makes sense. 288 00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:11,319 And so I just grabbed my guns and I jumped 289 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,480 in the truck. And this is not typical of me, 290 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,400 but I felt like I was being hunted, and I thought, 291 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,119 if you're gonna hunt me, I'm gonna hunt you. And 292 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:26,319 I tore out around these trails and had my thermal 293 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:29,759 while I'm driving, and I didn't have a plan. All 294 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:32,680 I knew was at least I'll let this person know 295 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,400 if it's a person there, that I've seen you, and 296 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,480 you're not gonna come back. And that was my plan 297 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:43,079 if I had one, But really I just wanted to 298 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,240 assert that you're not gonna you're not gonna take advantage 299 00:18:46,279 --> 00:18:48,119 of me out here in the woods, like I'm not 300 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:53,599 gonna let this happen. And so I go driving and 301 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,759 I park different places that there's no trail out except 302 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:01,440 by my camper where I park my truck. There's no 303 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:04,799 trail out of there except through those woods where I 304 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:07,640 hear all the noises. And so I already knew that 305 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:10,279 if you went into those woods, you would be ripped 306 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:17,960 apart there by the berry bushes. And so I thought, well, 307 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,960 this person's trapped back there like you. They have to 308 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,279 come out at some point, either they get in the 309 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,480 river or they go into those woods. So there's one 310 00:19:25,519 --> 00:19:27,880 or two choices, or you come back by me. And 311 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,640 so I stayed and I waited, and I watched with 312 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,759 my thermal for a long time. This is a matter 313 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:37,720 of seconds, and to get to that area of woods 314 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:43,799 would have taken a human probably, I don't know, like 315 00:19:43,839 --> 00:19:46,680 if you're running top speed, maybe a minute to a 316 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,079 minute and half to get back there and then to 317 00:19:49,079 --> 00:19:54,640 get in. You're gonna lead sign. So I mean, I 318 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,160 theoretically was thinking, I'm going to catch whoever this is. 319 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,119 Do they have to come in? I mean, they have 320 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,119 to come out and I'll see them and they'll and 321 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,359 they'll know they've been spotted. No one ever came out, 322 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,960 couldn't find any sign of anything. So I didn't sleep 323 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:15,200 much that night. I'm really upset. I'm thinking, what did 324 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,480 I do coming out here? Someone has picked up on 325 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:22,880 my pattern in this time, and now now they know 326 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:28,680 I'm alone, and I'm feeling vulnerable. And so I go, 327 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,160 I go into town and I call my ranger friend 328 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,160 and I tell him, I say, you know, someone was 329 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,359 at the campsite last night, and so I describe what 330 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,319 happened and he said, oh, well that's weird, you know, like, 331 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:48,079 are you he brings up Are you sure it's human? 332 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,920 And I said, well, it was by peel and this 333 00:20:51,079 --> 00:20:54,319 was you know, I was like, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, 334 00:20:54,319 --> 00:20:55,960 And I said, and I saw the head, the shape 335 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,039 of the head, I saw the shape of the shoulder, 336 00:20:58,079 --> 00:21:02,599 and they were human, human ish and except for the hair, 337 00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:06,799 and so he was like, well, you know, strange of 338 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:08,799 things have happened. I don't know, and he said, you know, 339 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,279 but there is a ranger here who has some experience 340 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:18,480 and with the pickfoot, and I'll send her by to 341 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:21,680 talk to you. And so at that point I was like, 342 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:25,119 I was like, are you kidding me? Like is some 343 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,640 kind of joke? Like are you really you're joking with me? Right? 344 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:30,799 So I was like thinking about, well, what did I 345 00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:35,599 get myself into? This is kind of crazy. I didn't 346 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,440 really think he was serious about it, so I just 347 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:42,440 kind of let it go. But at least he's got 348 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,240 record now, like, hey, someone was out there. So I 349 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:51,599 went to the store and got some solar spotlights, go back, 350 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,440 set up the camp where put a big telescopic poll 351 00:21:57,599 --> 00:22:00,440 up that I had laid around, put a spotlight light out, 352 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:04,039 motion censored, and I tested the perimeter. Now I know 353 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,440 something that knows I'm out there, and I'm going to 354 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:13,240 be more careful. And so I go and put the 355 00:22:13,319 --> 00:22:16,599 lights out and make sure that you know, they'll trigger 356 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,000 within a certain boundary where I feel like I can 357 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:22,079 protect myself and I'm safe. And I actually at this 358 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,960 point now I'm leaving the windows shades kind of where 359 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,079 I can see the lights click on at night as 360 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,839 something moves by, so nothing, nothing's going to sneak up 361 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,160 on me. And I should say I had before that, 362 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,839 Before that happened that night, I had this awful sick 363 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,480 feeling all the time that something was watching me, like 364 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:51,279 some and you only get this feeling very I get 365 00:22:51,279 --> 00:22:54,960 this feeling very very rarely, and it usually i'll walk 366 00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:58,559 up on a predator, I'll walk up on something that 367 00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:03,440 was watching me. But something was in that woods and 368 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,960 something from that direction was just not It wasn't feeling right. 369 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,079 And I did not go over there on purpose. I 370 00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:13,799 did not cut a trail. I was cutting a lot 371 00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:17,839 of trails just to navigate around this property, just so 372 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,000 I could go, you know, different places and kind of 373 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,559 look around because it was very over very overgrown. And 374 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:27,960 I should say the next morning, I did some reconnaissance 375 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,160 with that older man who had we had become friends, 376 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,400 who lived across across the river there. He came over 377 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,880 and I told him what happened, and he said, well, 378 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,319 let's go look. He said, let's go find out if 379 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,680 anybody went back there. We'll find you know, we'll see, 380 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,440 we'll see a trail, we'll see broken limbs, we'll see something. 381 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,359 It still had spider webs, you know, in the same 382 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,400 place as they were the day before. No broken limbs, 383 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,519 no crushed grass, nothing. And I practiced tracking all the time. 384 00:23:57,599 --> 00:24:00,200 I've done this for a very long time to be 385 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,200 aware of my surrounding. When I'm out there, I'll look 386 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,880 at my own footprint from the day before, see, you know, 387 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:11,240 and I'll track myself. So not saying I didn't miss something, 388 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,000 but we didn't find sign of not even a human. 389 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,880 And so my other theory was, well, there's probably someone 390 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,200 out here if you know anything about some impoverished people 391 00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:24,559 like to pick up the cans out of the trash 392 00:24:24,599 --> 00:24:28,119 cans or such because they get a deposit back. And 393 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,119 so I went and checked the trash cans to see 394 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,240 if they still had trashing them with bottles, et cetera. 395 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,400 Everything's there, untouched. There was no sign of a nefarious 396 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,359 human that was potentially there. It didn't belong there. The 397 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,599 other thing is, if it was a human that was there, 398 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,920 they knew that land better than anyone else, which was 399 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,880 odd because the old man across the street knew everything 400 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,039 that happened there. You know, he was the local gossip 401 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,000 all he would tell you, you know, whose cat got out 402 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:03,559 and whatever. He's planting a garden this year. He knew everything. 403 00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:09,640 And so if there was someone else out there, which 404 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,680 there could have been, but they would have had to 405 00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:17,799 known that terrain better and how to avoid being detected 406 00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:20,000 and to get out of there, or they stayed all 407 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,200 night long out I don't know. All I could think 408 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,920 was did they get into the river? But anyway, it 409 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,920 was just I couldn't figure it out. So I'm kind 410 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,960 of definitely on guard at this point, and like I said, 411 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,480 I put up the spotlights kind of patrol my boundary 412 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,240 at night, and I'm being more careful with my patterns 413 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,519 during the day so people don't know when I come 414 00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:49,799 and go, and just kind of keeping it, you know, different. 415 00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:55,680 But then a couple of nights later and I'm still concerned, 416 00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,039 you know, that it's a human that's been there. But 417 00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:02,079 then they had brought up a out bickfoot and I thought, well, 418 00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:07,200 you know what, it looked a lot like a big 419 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,279 hairy man, a big shaggy hairy man, and he was 420 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,119 very tall, and but I didn't get any kind of 421 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:21,440 negative vibe, orgative, negative feeling from this the thing that 422 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,119 I saw that night. So moving on, I'm still thinking 423 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,359 about all this, trying to make sense of it. Someone 424 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,279 tells me, you know, you need to start leaving gifts. 425 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,559 If it was Bigfoot and it is there to investigate you, 426 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,559 it's going to come back, and they're going to come back, 427 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,960 and you know, you may see more. And so I'm 428 00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:44,000 preparing myself that this is an option at this point, 429 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,839 and so I'm really cognizant of now. I'm leaving gifts 430 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,319 on my picnic table. I'm leaving shells and flowers that 431 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,119 I find, and I remember leaving a little vial of 432 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,160 gold that I had and I was like, you know, 433 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:04,720 if I invaded and they're here to run me off 434 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:07,359 or or figure it out, like who I am, I 435 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,920 want them to know that I'm I'm a I'm a 436 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,599 good spirit, and I'm a caretaker of the land. And 437 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,160 that's why that's why I'm here too, is to care 438 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,240 for this land, and I am of the earth just 439 00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:23,880 as they are. So I'm opening myself to the belief 440 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,000 that this could have happened, this could be a reality, 441 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,920 because I can't make a human makes sense out of 442 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,759 this at this point. Then a few nights later, I 443 00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:40,519 have a dream. I know it sounds crazy, but I 444 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:48,720 have a dream. And it was an older sasquatch, and 445 00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:50,559 I only say it was a male, and it was 446 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,839 older in my mind. In my dream, it came to 447 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:59,200 me and it was very calming and very peaceful, and 448 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,839 it said, we know you're here, and yes, that was 449 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,440 us here, and we have been here and we had 450 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,440 to come figure out who you were and we had 451 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,559 to investigate you. And now that we've known who you are, 452 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,119 he said, I'll tell all the others and we won't 453 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,920 mess with you. He said, you're welcome to stay. And 454 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,599 that was I woke up from that dream in the 455 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,319 middle of the night and I was like what in 456 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,480 the world, Like, what what did I just dream? I 457 00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:32,680 was so crazy. Well, after that night, the entire mood 458 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:40,000 of that forest change. There was no more weird baby crying, 459 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,200 there's no more luring me out there, there's no more 460 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,279 wood knocks. The wildlife was abundant at this point, like 461 00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:55,160 coming way more wildlife was coming in. So I don't 462 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:00,759 know that's what happened. And after okay, so the owl thing, 463 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:02,839 the other thing I thought was maybe the owl was 464 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:06,720 warning me or you know, had been startled somehow by 465 00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:09,559 the human or the bigfoot. Even that was over there. 466 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,480 And then within a couple of days, I'm in the 467 00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:17,599 river and panning again, just all day long in this river, 468 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,839 just absorbing the magnificent nature around me, and this pure 469 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,960 white owl comes in the middle of the day and 470 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,319 it swoops down over me and it lands in front 471 00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:33,240 of me on this rock and it watches me and 472 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:36,880 it just sits there and watches me pan and I'm like, oh, hi, 473 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,200 uh okay. 474 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,599 Speaker 1: This is weird. 475 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,759 Speaker 2: I was like, man, I've got to write this stuff down. 476 00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:45,960 I mean, the just the I don't know, that was 477 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,839 pretty magical having that owl show up to So that 478 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,519 was my experience. 479 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: That's it, all right, Heather, thank you so much for 480 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,920 sharing your experiences with me. And you did an excellent 481 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:06,160 job at relaying these encounters with me. And yeah, it 482 00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:11,279 sounds like traditional bigfoot activity. It started off with wood 483 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:15,359 knocks around you and they continue day after day. You 484 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,000 mentioned hearing laughter or like children playing, and voices in 485 00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:24,160 the distance in the distance. That definitely lines up with 486 00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:29,640 many other people's experiences throughout North America. And yeah, it 487 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,680 definitely sounds like you're being watched by them. When you 488 00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:38,079 described the shaggy hairy man, it almost reminded me of 489 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,240 a guy in a gilly sue. I'm not saying it was, 490 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,839 but is that kind of what it looked like. Yeah, 491 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,000 in the thermal. 492 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,319 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what it looked like, because I kept thinking, 493 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:50,640 he has a mullet. What. At first, I was like, Wow, 494 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,839 he's got a crazy mullet. I was like, that's that's 495 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,480 an epic mullet. And then I was thinking, well, that's 496 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,839 a way too much hair. I was like, that's not 497 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:03,480 just the hair is what I focused on, and caught 498 00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:07,160 me off guard. When I was looking good at monoculars, 499 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,559 I was like, what in the world. Yeah, so it 500 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:12,359 would look like a gilly suit if you had to 501 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:15,440 for shag carpet. 502 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah. I've heard both those descriptions before with 503 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,240 the Sasquatch, and it makes sense why they were there. 504 00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:27,720 You went down a road that wasn't accessible to humans. 505 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,200 You had to cut trees and get them out of 506 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,720 the way just to drive back there, and it doesn't 507 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,440 seem like people have been back there for a long time. 508 00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:39,920 And you also mentioned the thick berry bushes. The sasquatch 509 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,839 are reported to be seen around berry bushes. Were they 510 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,359 growing when you were in there? 511 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,079 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, they were loaded, So they were loaded with berries. 512 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,519 In the apple trees. I found all these apple trees 513 00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:57,039 that I don't know if someone planted them at some point. 514 00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:01,039 I guess maybe they did. But they were just thick, 515 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,920 thick with apples. I couldn't wait for the you know, 516 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,920 for them to turn and plum trees and pears. I mean, 517 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,920 it was like an oasis back there. And I thought, 518 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,880 who would ever have known this was back here? I oh, 519 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,960 in the strawberry fields or fields of strawberry wild strawberries, 520 00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:24,920 cattails which are edible, all kinds of edible things everywhere. 521 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:28,920 But the berries were very, very prolific. They're loaded with berries. 522 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:35,279 I couldn't wait. Huckleberries, blackberries, salmon berries, any kind of 523 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,359 berry you could think of, was in full. You know, 524 00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:41,599 they were coming on. It was June in central Oregon. 525 00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:46,039 They usually ripen around August, so they had a ways 526 00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,519 to go. But yeah, it was gonna be nice and 527 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,240 lush there. 528 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:53,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the sasquatch will follow the food sources and 529 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,079 the waterways, And you had that combination there. You mentioned 530 00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:58,240 the river was nearby. 531 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had thrown out a few nets. I didn't 532 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,359 I didn't really have time to fish. I do love 533 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680 to fish, but I didn't have time. My goal was 534 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,400 to go gold panting, and so that was my focus. 535 00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:16,920 And I throw them out, thrown out a few traps, 536 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,119 and I caught some catfish. I ended up letting them 537 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,079 go other too small, But I knew that there was 538 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,759 catfish in there. I'd never seen anyone back there fishing. 539 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,880 It was too It was an area that I didn't see, 540 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,359 you know, I didn't see any activity like that. There 541 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,279 was one night, just an occasional kayaker had gotten lost 542 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,119 and ended up like staggering up, you know, with his 543 00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:45,119 kayak and had gotten lost stuff in there. But other 544 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,680 than that, there wasn't a lot of people. But yeah, 545 00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:50,920 there was. There were definitely fish there too. 546 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that totally makes sense. The most disturbing part was 547 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:02,160 the baby crying. And people have often reported experiencing encryptive 548 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,680 creatures that seem like they're trying to lure them or 549 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,480 their kids or their pets into the forest. And you 550 00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:12,280 mentioned you had this maternal instinct that was just pulling 551 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,719 you towards the woods, like you really wanted to look, 552 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,079 And I think that was its intentions, not necessarily to 553 00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,760 like take you, make you go missing, but to get 554 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,559 you to investigate further into the woods. 555 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,159 Speaker 2: Oh. I definitely feel like that. I can feel the 556 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,639 instinct right now. It's still it's stuck with me and 557 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:36,360 I haven't. I mean, that was a really really strange 558 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,119 sensation to have this this time, and as a woman 559 00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:44,360 hearing a baby crying like that, I really wanted to 560 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,360 go help, really want to go help. 561 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it also sounds like they were mimicking the owls. 562 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,239 I think they'll do that so kind of get closer 563 00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,760 and closer and closer to you to kind of deter 564 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,760 your attention away from them making or move. And then 565 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,840 you heard the blood curdling scream. How can can you 566 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,159 describe or compare this scream to another animal? 567 00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 2: Like? 568 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: What did it sound like? 569 00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:16,079 Speaker 2: I just I don't remember it sounding like another animal. 570 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:18,960 I feel in my mind it was like a woman 571 00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:23,280 screaming bloody murder right outside my window. And I thought 572 00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:28,719 there was the amount of force behind it sounded way 573 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,159 too strong to be an owl. It was. It was 574 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:37,239 so loud I almost thought they had their face out 575 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,480 against my window. That kind of scream that did not 576 00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:47,480 make sense. So I thought, that's not an owl. And 577 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:49,920 if it is an owl, it has just killed something 578 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,239 right outside my window. That's what I thought I was 579 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,800 going to see. I thought an owl was killing something 580 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,199 outside the window, which didn't make sense because the tree 581 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,800 wasn't right there. I looked back at pictures to make 582 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,840 sure I could orient myself. I was like, was there 583 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,239 a tree right there? There was a tree, but the 584 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,880 tree was probably fifteen feet away from the camper, and 585 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,039 so again it doesn't make sense the height of it 586 00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:19,039 and everything in the forest behind. The scream was like 587 00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:22,119 a woman screaming. I don't want to scream right now, 588 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:30,960 but it sounded to me like just painful, aggressive, scared, 589 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,280 and it was. It was a frightening sound. 590 00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:38,679 Speaker 1: Can you recreate the scream for me right now? No, 591 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,320 I'm kidding. 592 00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm looking out the window of my neighbors, 593 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,719 like that's come running. Yeah. 594 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,599 Speaker 1: Well, you know, the professionals that are listening to this 595 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,639 video will tell you that it was a mountain lion, 596 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,719 even though they were not there, and that doesn't explain 597 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,719 the loud, powerful, wooden knocks like someone hitting a baseball 598 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,639 bat against a tree. The figure that you saw with 599 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,559 the thermal device, that doesn't explain the other strange activity. 600 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,599 And you know what you experienced, and it definitely sounds 601 00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:14,320 off like the whole situation, and you definitely stumbled into 602 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,199 a clan of sasquatch and you were in their territory. 603 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:25,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do believe I was. I didn't feel. And 604 00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:29,760 the thing is, I didn't feel threatened after that night. Now, 605 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,880 when it initially happened, like I said, I thought it 606 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,199 was my rational mind said, that is a creeper, you know, 607 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,760 like a man, a human man out there, and whatever 608 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,159 I'm seeing with the hair thing doesn't matter because that 609 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,719 is a human looking head and shoulder. So to me, 610 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,840 I felt initially threatened. But then after the dream I had, 611 00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:58,360 every fear went away. It was the dream was just 612 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,400 as real as if it were happening, happening like if 613 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,639 you if he would have, demand would have I mean, 614 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:07,920 the Sasquatch would have stood in front of me and 615 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,079 told me this. It was a real event in my dream. 616 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,320 And maybe it was my subconscious protecting me or something. 617 00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:18,360 I don't know, but it tied it all together and 618 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,960 it stopped, the noises stopped. I was no longer fearful 619 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,920 of that that area I had at this point. Shortly 620 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,360 after that, I had gotten internet, Like I got a 621 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,679 starlink and so I had internet access, and I'm online, 622 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,960 you know, listening to mountain lions, listening to cougars, joining 623 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,199 the local facegroup Facebook groups where they're they do actually 624 00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:48,280 report any siding of the cougar. So I had knowledge 625 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,480 of my local area. You know, the little chatter, you know, 626 00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:54,400 the local chatter when you're out places like that. You 627 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,480 depend on that. So people would track, you know, Oh, 628 00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:03,760 I saw cougar X amount of miles up this canyon, 629 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,920 you know, five days ago. So I did definitely think 630 00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:12,840 possibly a cat, a large cat. But I I'm no 631 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,920 tracking expert, but I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty aware of 632 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,119 my surroundings. And I I track everywhere. I've been tracking 633 00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,920 for years. And I didn't see any large you know, 634 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,079 I didn't see any large cat. I looked at scat, 635 00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:29,519 any scat I could find, I'd pick it up, take 636 00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,239 it back home. I didn't care. I mean, I was 637 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,519 I was going to learn what was happening around me. 638 00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:36,599 I wasn't going to be caught off guard. I've walked 639 00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:39,199 up on a bear a bear bed before, a bear 640 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,000 den before I scared the crap out of me. Uh, 641 00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:49,719 the smell and the the scat and the bedding and 642 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,239 everything I would had just walked up on it. And 643 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,960 I don't want to do that again. I don't want 644 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,079 to be put in that position because I was a 645 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:03,679 long way from help when that happened. So I'm yeah, I'm. 646 00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: The prolific dream though I've heard that before from other 647 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,480 people and guests on the channel, and it seems like 648 00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:16,880 when people encounter the sasquatch or other crypto creatures, they 649 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,719 sometimes have dreams about them, and dreams that seem too real, 650 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:27,360 too vivid to just ride off. And biblically speaking, dreams 651 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,320 are important, their messages and it's hard to decode them, 652 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,039 and you need somebody super spiritual to like interpret the 653 00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:37,679 dream and the meaning behind it. 654 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,199 Speaker 2: I feel like I trusted the dream more than anything 655 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,719 anyone else could tell me was happening, because it was 656 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,760 so so real, and I think I think my level 657 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,519 of fear, I think almost that they could sense that 658 00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:58,000 my level of fear was escalating it after I was 659 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,519 starting to acknowledge them that there was something out there, 660 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,119 and I could hear them. I knew that there was 661 00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:07,920 something watching me. I could feel it. I could sense it. 662 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,239 I could feel it. And then once the event happened 663 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:16,159 where I saw the saw this assquatch that night, my 664 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,039 fear level escalated and so I I almost feel like 665 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,079 they knew in my subconscious state where I was more subdued, 666 00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:26,760 they could put it into this and just you know, 667 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,079 let me know, like, look, we're not going to hurt you. 668 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,960 We know who you are, we know you're okay. We 669 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:37,599 have investigated you, and I felt no need to go 670 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:40,199 any further. I felt no need to seek seek any 671 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,360 anything else out or investigate them. It was like we 672 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,679 had met, we examined each other, we parted ways. It 673 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,760 was literally like a predator and a prey or two 674 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,039 people challenging each other and you're like, you know what, 675 00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,400 We're good, we just walk away. We'll call it what 676 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,039 it is. And only because my intent I made sure 677 00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:04,559 to let them know my intentions to this land or 678 00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:08,960 not to take anything from you or take anything that 679 00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:11,559 I don't I'm not going to use this land. I'm 680 00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:14,320 not going to take more resources than I should, I'll 681 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,679 protect this land for you, and I didn't want to 682 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,920 tell anyone. I still haven't told, but not four people 683 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,000 would have happened what happened there, just out of respect. 684 00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:32,199 Speaker 1: The Sasquatch are known as protectors of the forest, as 685 00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:35,760 some natives have said in the past, and it sounds 686 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,639 like they were coming in to check on you. And 687 00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:42,320 they're also known to like project thoughts and feelings on people, 688 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:47,239 sometimes even like an audible voice that people claim like 689 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,320 they call it mind speak. So I don't want to 690 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,360 freak you out, but maybe when you were having that dream, 691 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,039 this thing was right outside your window watching you sleep. 692 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,079 I don't know, because like you know, when you're being watched, 693 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,199 like you look over and there really is a deer 694 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,280 standing there. A human. Yeah, Like, if you're having that dream, 695 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,440 probably your body was telling you like there's something there, 696 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,239 and the thing was watching you the whole time. 697 00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,119 Speaker 2: I felt like it was in my presence in my dream. 698 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,480 It literally felt like it was in my presence and 699 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,360 predominantly in my right ear. While I didn't have an 700 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,320 audible voice, it was like mind speak. It conveyed to me, 701 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,519 but it looked me straight in the eyes in my 702 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,639 in my sleep, and so it was as if we 703 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,440 were having the conversation. And I remember waking up like, 704 00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:40,840 oh wow, did that just happen? I was like, wow, okay, 705 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,400 well yeah, but yeah, I could have been because I 706 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,800 felt the presence. And that's why it was so real. 707 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,239 I could feel that presence. 708 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: Oh, I totally believe you, and I feel like they 709 00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:58,960 were watching over you. These are I believe that they're spiritual, 710 00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:03,920 being spiritual creatures, and I think you should consider yourself 711 00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,880 lucky for interacting with them and being able to experience 712 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,440 their presence, because if they wanted to take you out, 713 00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:14,559 they had and they had plenty of opportunities to do that. 714 00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:19,039 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, did. 715 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: They ever hit your camper? Or did you ever hear 716 00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:25,039 like what sounded like pine cones landing on top of 717 00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:27,800 the camper, just like things hitting the camper? 718 00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:32,039 Speaker 2: I don't remember anything like that. And in the you know, 719 00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:35,800 as I as I've come forward in the years listening 720 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,800 to other people's accounts, because I didn't know to pay 721 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,079 attention to anything like that, I had no preconceived notion 722 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,199 of what I should listen for look for other than 723 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,519 tracks or signs of of you know, like a physical 724 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,760 being I had no inclination to look for or listen 725 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,199 for any of these things. And the only reason the 726 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,599 wood knocks and the other sounds and the baby crying 727 00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:06,320 and everything stood out because it happened so frequently that 728 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,119 I knew that. I was like, something is really weird, 729 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,159 Like something's not normal there. 730 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 1: That totally makes sense. I was making breakfast early this 731 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,719 morning and I was watching a channel camera what's called 732 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,679 This girl was camping in Arizona and the mountains, and 733 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,599 she had this fancy camper up there, and when she 734 00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:29,519 got up in the morning, she was like, weird, it 735 00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:31,960 sounded like pine cones were hitting the top of my 736 00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:35,239 camper and the entire night. And she got up there 737 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,280 and she filmed the whole thing, and she had like 738 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,960 solar panels on top of this camper. She's like, weird, 739 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,119 there's nothing on top of my camper. The first thing 740 00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:44,440 I thought of was sasquatch. She made no mention of it, 741 00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:48,559 but I guess it makes sense when people don't know 742 00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:50,840 anything about it, They're just like, huh, it sounded like 743 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,719 something was hitting my camp or the entire night. 744 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. I also think about all the times, 745 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,039 I mean, I have gone. One of my big things 746 00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:03,599 to do all my day off from work would be 747 00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:06,480 to find a logging road where someone would just a 748 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,119 local would describe, you know, if you drive over this 749 00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:12,400 this logging road through the mountain, you know, seventy five miles, 750 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,800 you'll end up, it'll come out on this road over here. 751 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,639 And I would do it. I would just go off 752 00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:21,960 and do this, you know, adventure. You know, I prepare 753 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,239 for it, but I knew I had have no cell signal, 754 00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:29,239 but I never thought maybe i'd see something or you know, 755 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,000 I was in the perfect in my mind, perfect territory 756 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,599 to have experienced something before, but I never I never did, 757 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,360 and if I did, I'd never knew to identify it 758 00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:48,320 unless I were to see something. So it's curious when 759 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,960 you don't have a concept of what should you know 760 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,760 what the possibilities are, that it's not even an option. 761 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,639 And just like me seeing that for the first time, 762 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,599 seeing that hairy man, if that wasn't an option for 763 00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:03,760 me because I had never considered it would happen. I 764 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,400 never considered that it was reality until it happened. Now 765 00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:11,480 I can't wait for the next time. Oddly enough, I mean, 766 00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:16,760 now I'm like very open to the experience. 767 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like for hunting this thing down, you 768 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,079 thought it was like some creepy guy or you know, 769 00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:27,199 something like a drug addict in the woods, and you 770 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,119 weren't going to let that happen to you. I'm sure 771 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,920 that put you on their radar. And when they realize 772 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,519 you're protecting yourself, that's probably when you had that dream 773 00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:39,719 and they're like, Okay, you're cool, we're cool, everything's good here. 774 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think I would do that. Now, 775 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,960 I don't know why I did it. 776 00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:48,639 Speaker 1: Then, it just you're vulnerable in that situation. 777 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:55,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And usually I found that if you can well, 778 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,239 in my line of work, like people that bluff really 779 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,159 hard like that, they're aggressive. If you just kind of 780 00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:03,760 meet them with they're the same energy, it's going to 781 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,079 go one way or the other. You're gonna you're gonna 782 00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:10,639 come face to face or well, somebody's going to back off. See, okay, cool, 783 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,199 we're good, We're good. So I was like, I'm just 784 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,599 going to show you you're not going to come stalk 785 00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:18,719 me at night, You're not gonna come hunt me, because 786 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,280 that's really what I felt like that night as I 787 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,559 was being hunted. 788 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that definitely makes sense. And when you said you 789 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,719 started hearing heavy footsteps and you pulled out your thermal 790 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,480 device and saw this being and can I completely understand 791 00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:38,039 why you felt the way you did. And I wouldn't 792 00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:41,599 want somebody stalking me out in the woods. That would 793 00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:46,800 definitely put me on high alert. Yeah, what kind of 794 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,760 thermal device were you using? Do you know the brand? 795 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,519 Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know the brand. I bought it back 796 00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:59,039 before they were you know, affordable, like twenty nineteen is 797 00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,559 when I bought this one. I don't know the brand, 798 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,599 but I mean it's everyone I've shown it to and 799 00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:09,119 let's play with it. It's like, wow, that's nice. It's binocular, 800 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,000 not monocular. 801 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,079 Speaker 1: Okay, it could be like an AGM or something. 802 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I have to get it out 803 00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:16,559 and look at it. 804 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a good thing you had that around. 805 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,000 And they're definitely handy and you never know if you're 806 00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:24,679 going to run into sasquatch, So it's always good if 807 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,079 you're going into the outdoors to bring a camcorder or 808 00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:31,519 a thermal device because you might get the best footage 809 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,719 ever seen by man. 810 00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 2: Well, and then people, you know, people are always like, well, 811 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,440 it does have a record option on there. But when 812 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,199 you're in a situation like that and you're not expecting 813 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,599 things to happen, those hitting record would have take too 814 00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:50,039 long to take my eyes away from what's happening in 815 00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:53,480 front of me to concentrate on Am I recording right now? 816 00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:56,360 Look back? So when you're trying and it felt like 817 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,920 a survival moment for me. This was a survival to 818 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,039 situation where I did have time to record something or 819 00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:07,800 to think about it. Even in fact jumping in the truck, 820 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,519 I don't even know if I'm like keys or anything. 821 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:15,000 I mean, that's how quickly this happened, so to be recording, 822 00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:16,880 I know people are like, oh, he didn't get a recorded, No, 823 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,880 it was a blink of an eye. I mean he 824 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,840 was a blink in time. 825 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,639 Speaker 1: No. No, that definitely makes sense. When your life is 826 00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:29,239 in danger, that's the last thing on your mind, or 827 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,760 if something runs out super quick, like you're more focused 828 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,719 on what's in front of you than what's around you. Yeah, 829 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,599 and the forest ranger, he seemed to be pretty cool 830 00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:44,800 and open minded to the existence of sasquatch, and it 831 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,280 kind of sounds like he's heard reports in the area 832 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,039 in the past, and he knew another ranger that has 833 00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:54,400 had experiences and run ins with the Sasquatch. I wonder 834 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,920 why she never contacted you. 835 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,079 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I waited, you know, 836 00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:05,800 I eagerly anticipated having a conversation. She was the only 837 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,800 one I felt like I could potentially, you know, really 838 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,400 talk to about it, because he said she had experienced 839 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,079 multiple things. He's like, I know exactly who to send here, 840 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,320 he said, I know who to send to you. He said, 841 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,679 we have another ranger and I'll send her over. And 842 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,719 I thought, oh, finally, Okay, that's good. You know, I 843 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,599 don't know she's going to tell me. It might scare me. 844 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,119 I actually thought, well, she might scare me enough I 845 00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:34,920 might just leave. But I was willing, absolutely willing to 846 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,679 talk to her. But it didn't happen. You never know, 847 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,000 they had districts and areas they have to patrol, and 848 00:51:41,039 --> 00:51:44,199 so these are vast, vast areas. They may not even 849 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,960 come to the same area for like but once a month. 850 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,719 They might not make it to that territory where they're 851 00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:52,800 assigned to for a long time. 852 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, she probably got tied up with their line of 853 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,280 work or who knows. I get people all the time 854 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,079 that say they got a sasquatch encounter, and they say 855 00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:04,760 they're going to contact me, and I never hear from 856 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:12,039 them again. But yeah, is there anything else that you 857 00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:15,559 would like to share? Anything that maybe you forgot to mention? 858 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,599 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think so. I think 859 00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:24,280 I covered it all. 860 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,079 Speaker 1: Well. I'm glad you decided to open up about your experiences, 861 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,920 and you did an excellent job describing everything in detail. 862 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,679 So I appreciate you so much for helping out the channel, 863 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:43,199 and hopefully more people from the Cottage Grove area and 864 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,679 organ will chime in and share their personal experiences with everyone. 865 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I really would like to hear if someone else 866 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,360 has experienced something around there. 867 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. 868 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,199 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you for having me. 869 00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, And hopefully if you run into them again, 870 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,800 you'll contact me and share your experience with me in 871 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,280 the future. 872 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 2: I sure will. 873 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much, other great, thank you. Heather's 874 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,440 experiences raise a lot of questions about what may truly 875 00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:19,199 exist in these remote wilderness areas, from the unexplained wood 876 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,320 knocks and screams to the humanoid figure she observed through 877 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:29,599 thermal optics. The activity seemed intelligent, cautious, and deeply connected 878 00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:33,400 to the environment around her. Whether you believe these encounters 879 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,639 point to sasquatch or something unknown living deep within the forest, 880 00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:43,519 Heather's story is one she will never forget. I could 881 00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:47,039 certainly relate to Heather's experiences when she was talking about 882 00:53:47,079 --> 00:53:49,360 the trees blocking the road and she had to clear 883 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,599 the path to this remote wilderness area, and the Sasquatch 884 00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:57,360 are known to block off trails, and that's why they 885 00:53:57,519 --> 00:54:01,519 dwell in these areas because there's a lack of human 886 00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:07,559 presence in these remote areas. Also, the strange dream that 887 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:11,000 was truly fascinating. I've been hearing a lot more people 888 00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:15,400 talking about these Sasquatch encrypted dreams, and I've had them 889 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,599 myself in the past, and they can't be ignored. I 890 00:54:19,639 --> 00:54:23,079 feel like that is a clue to this mystery. And 891 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,039 dreams are prophetic, they have a meaning to them if 892 00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:30,840 you're wise enough to decode the purpose of it. If 893 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,679 you enjoyed this podcast, please like the video, subscribe to 894 00:54:33,679 --> 00:54:36,440 the channel, hit the bell notification if you want to 895 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,440 be alerted to future videos. And with all that being said, 896 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,440 you guys be safe out in the forest,