Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. Tonight's
guest is Heather from the state of Orgon, and what
started as a peaceful, gold panting trip deep in the
mountains near Cottage Grove slowly turned into something she still
struggles to explain. Isolated miles from town with no cell signal,
Heather began hearing woodnocks, strange voices, laughter in the forest,
and terrifying screams echoing through the wilderness. What she first
believed was a person watching her in the woods may
have been something far more mysterious. Tonight, Heather shares her encounters,
the strange dreams that followed, and the eerie activity that
changed the way she looks at the forest of Oregon forever.
Have you had a similar experience, If so, feel free
to reach out at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com
if you would like to share your bigfoot encounters here
on the Sasquatch Theory Podcast. With all that being said,
let's dive straight into our next bigfoot report from the
state of Oregon. All right, Heather, welcome to Sasquatch Theory.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. How are you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing excellent and it's an absolute pleasure to have
you on the show. Heather. If you would tell me
a little bit about yourself, where you're from, and your
bigfoot experiences from the very beginning, please.
Speaker 2: Sure. Thanks for having me. I will say, I am
an avid outdoorsman, and so I've been traveling coast to
coast and all over the United States, even Alaska for
a very long time. So I don't don't really claim
where I'm from. I just kind of consider myself a
citizen of the world. But that being said, everywhere I go,
the destination is always to be outdoors, to be in
the woods, to be with nature. So that's that's where
I'm most comfortable.
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that with me, And if you
would tell me about your first bigfoot experience and kind
of put me in your shoes and how you got
into all that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I was in a transition of life, was
making some big changes, big decisions, and overcoming some hardship,
and I decided the best place for me to be
is away from people and out into nature. And so
I sought out kind of an austere location where I
could go for the summer and go gold panning all summer,
which is one of my hobbies. And I chose I
found a place and found something new and set me
up to the place near the Bohemian Mining District outside
of Cottage Grove, Oregon. And that was in the summer
of twenty twenty. So I took my camper and went
out to this location and it was pretty isolated. It
was about eleven miles from the town and no cell signal,
no internet. No. I did have electricity, but that was it.
I didn't have any water, I didn't have anything, you know,
no modern amenities of the electricity. So it was perfect.
I was isolated, I was by myself. I was very excited.
Nature was just in full bloom June and Oregon Central
Oregon is just a magical place, really long days, beautiful weather,
so I was very excited. I had it all lined
up and that's how I decided to go to the
location I was at, just to lay some foreground. I
did not ever haven't experienced before. I have had some paranormal,
supernatural kind of experiences, but I had never had any
kind of sas squatch or bigfoot experience or actually even
I believed other people but I didn't ever think it
would happen to me, and I didn't ever look for it.
I mean, the main thing I ever worried about in
the woods would be a bigger predator or startling say deer,
an elk. Those are my main concerns. Is just basically
startling a larger animal, which I had done before. I mean,
I've walked up on large animals and so I kind
of that was my only concern. But usually once I
make my presence known, they don't they don't come around.
So I start my journey out there, I explore the area. Again,
I have no technology to get a cell signal. I
had to drive about two and a half miles up
on a mountain ridge to get just barely a signal.
So I planned to do that once a day to
see if I had any like emergency phone calls or messages,
or if I got lonely to go call someone. But
otherwise I was in the river all day as long
as I could tolerate without getting a hypothermic panning for
gold and come back to the campsite and explore the
woods around. There was tons of apple wild apple trees
and plum trees. Everything was fruiting out very lush, very
dense area. My friend had let me know that no
one had been on that proper in about five years.
To get my camphor in, we had to cut trees,
I had to cut, you know, limbs, clear the road.
So that's that's where I was, and I quickly became
very in tune with what was going on around me. Well,
like I said, there's not much to do inside the camphor,
you'll want to be outside. So I would be out
in the mornings from sun up until sun down. After
I'd bring my gold home, let's sit in the yard,
runs loose all day, you know, until it's dark, or
the mosquitoes eight me alive. So I'm listening to nature,
and you really become part of nature. All the cycles
that are happening around you. They adjust to you and
you adjust to them. And so I started listening, or
I started hearing something in a certain region of the
woods that I didn't go into. And it didn't go
in there because it's kind of surrounded that bury. Really
tall berry bushes in Oregon. If you know what these are,
you can't traverse through them. They'll rip you apart. I mean,
some of them are five six foot tall. They're just impassable.
And so there was a lot of that around this
certain area of woods. But this is where I started
to hear a wood knocks. And I didn't know what
they were at the time because I'd never listened to
anything online, never been exposed to anything, never been told
about anything that may happen. So I just would remember
the things that happened commonly that I couldn't identify. And
so it started with the wood knox. And I would
hear something that would hit a tree and it was
too loud to be, just like a tree, you know,
with the winds hitting up against the other tree eat.
And then I would hear a similar one not far
away from that. And then and this would happen at
a certain time each day, and I didn't and I
would try to grab my phone and you know, listen
to it or record it real quick. I could never
capture it. But it wasn't a woodpecker. It was too
loud to be. It wasn't someone chopping on a tree.
It wasn't something I could identify. It wasn't a limb snapping.
And there was a time that I heard what it
sounded like a baseball that just whack a tree extremely hard,
same exact area, and there was no one that lived
back there. This is an area that I had google
earthed this area before I got there, even when I
was just traversing, hiking around, you know, taking any trail
I could, walking the roadway, walking the pathways, anything I
could driving around, I quickly identify like warehouses were. Especially
after I started hearing things there, I thought, I don't
feel like I'm alone, and that's a weird sensation. From
the same area of woods, I also started to hear
what sounded like like maybe even music playing or some
sort of and it wasn't discernible like a type of
music or a word per se, but there was some
kind of chatter or something happening. It almost sounded musical.
And I thought, well, that's really weird. And this would
happened day after day in the same time of day though,
and it wouldn't. It wouldn't happen at night. This usually
happened during the day. Well, it was daylight, and so
then the noises there was like the noises started to add.
There started to be more and more noises. So then
it started with the music, and then it went to
the chatter, and then it sounded like laughter. I almost
felt like there was like a a child out there,
like a ten year old boy whacking trees and running
around and giggling and just playing. And I thought, what
animal would sound like this? Like what what animals do this?
And at this point, I'd already been on the property
long enough to meet a couple of the locals, and
so when you're that far out, you quickly know that
you need each other, no matter who you are. So
I hadn't met a man, an older man across the
way who had come and introduced himself, and he said
he would traverse through this in this land for the
last five years, knowing had been there. He would kind
of come and circle around and look at it, you know,
kind of take care of it or whatever. And so
I would ask him about these noises. And I asked him,
you know, is what's over there? What's in the woods
over there? And he was like, nothing, you can't it's
up against the river or you know, it goes to
the lake and there's there was an old trail there,
but it's all grown over with barry VARs. So I
was like, oh, just keep hearing some stuff over there,
and he assured me he would go check it out,
and there was nothing over He even brought a weed
eater and something to kind of clear the path so
we could walk back a little further to make sure
there was no one back there. So we did that,
and then as the time goes on, this isn't a
matter of days too, up to like two weeks when
I first arrived. Then I started hearing a baby cry.
And it was the weirdest sensation I had, like this
maternal instinct that was pulling me so hard. It was
really hard for me not to go to this cry.
I mean I was, I was lured really really strongly.
I wanted to go help whatever this was. I needed
to help it is what I was feeling, like, it
needs me. This thing is out there crying. And it
wasn't a loud cry. It was a cry enough that
once you hear it, it would go it would stop,
and then you'd stop thinking about it and kind of
try to put the pieces together. What did I just hear?
And then you'd hear it again, and then maybe it
wouldn't happen for a few days, and so I thought, well,
maybe it's birthing season or dear you know, I'm trying
to make sure I know the patterns of the wildlife there.
I'm ruling out anything it could be. I'm listening. I'm
driving eleven miles of town in the evening to the
internet signal and listening to wildlife sounds and trying to
make sure that I'm not I'm just trying to figure
out where it is actually, because I don't know. At
that point, nothing is making sense to me. I've already
heard and seen many many other variety of animals there
because they weren't used to seeing a human, they weren't
as afraid of me, and I didn't have a dog
or anything that would bark at them. So just to
the quiet moments, we would all just coexist. I mean,
there'd be thirty turkeys that would just walk right up
to me and walk past me and walk over to
the river and get their get their drink and walk
off and bring their babies up. I mean, there was
there was no fear at certain points. Uh. So I
was identifying that the sounds that were around me, that
there were still questionable ones that I couldn't quite put together.
And so I still at this point, don't have any internet,
I don't have any cell signal alone, and I'm it
was one of those days where I had worked really
hard and I was really tired and some laying in
bed and at the at my feet of the bed,
there's a window in the camper and I heard an
owl and I thought, wow, that owl is like super
close to the window. I was like, how does that happen?
And so I was thinking, well, that's really cool, you know,
I'm glad it feels comfortable to be this close to
the to the camper. And then just a few seconds later,
I hear this blood curdling scream just so loud. It
it did not sound like an owl that I had
heard before, and it did not sound really authentic like
an owl. It sounded man made or some combination of
the two. It almost sound like a megaphone. And so
it startled me so badly, just frozen in with that,
and I thought, oh my god, I'm about to go
out there and see a murder scene from this owl
of whatever has killed. Maybe it's killing something right now,
and I'm going to go see the you know, holding
its carcass or something. That's all I could imagine so
I kind of get the courage to slide off my
bed and I kind of like slither army crawl across
the floor. And I had lived in Alaska before, so
I have quite a few I have a collection of,
you know, things to live outdoors, and so I have
some thermal, some thermal binoculars, and I grab those and
I creep over to the door of a camper. And
I don't have any lights on that you know, there's
no lights on outside. I don't have any there's no
lights on, and so I quietly open the door and
I turn on the thermal and as soon as I
turn the thermal, I'm sitting down on the stairs to
the camper. As soon as I turn them on, I
start to hear it crunch crunch, crunch, crunch, and I
quickly identify its to my right and it's quite a
distance away, and I pull the thermals up and I
see this shape of it looks like a human head,
humanoid head in the right shoulder, and it's walking away
from me, and I'm tracking it and it doesn't look
back at me, but it has hair. That is the
only way I describe it is kind of like wavy
early like a beach thumb Jesus' hair that just just
kind of free flowing, and it looked not maintained, but
it also was on its shoulder, and I thought, there's
no I was like, well, hey, there's a person, is
what I immediately thought. And then I thought, why is that
person that have a shirt on? And why do they
have so much hair on them? And I thought, oh
my gosh, like who is this in the woods with me?
And then I realized that the where I was seated,
this property had like a hill in the middle over
to the the path where this humanoid was walking. And
so in the daytime, even when I'm sitting in a
lawn chair at the camper exactly where I am, I
cannot see anyone that walks down there if there was someone,
Because occasionally people would find the trail by the river
and they would walk down this trail and it would
always startle me because I couldn't ever see see them.
But if I would walk over the ridge a little bit,
I would see them and I would think, oh, wow,
that's a I can't believe that person, you know, was there.
But uh, this uh whatever whatever this was was tall
enough that me seated on the floor, you know, like
on the the stairs of the RVY looking over this
hill thing. I could see the head and shoulders walking
away from me, and the cadence was slow enough and
it was moving fast enough that it also didn't make
sense to me. It wasn't registering to me how it
can move that fast with that flow of a cadence.
And so I don't know what snapped in me. It
was like instinct, because I did think it was maybe
someone nefarious out there with me, and I thought, well,
they were just at my window and they were looking
or they were you know, like I didn't think that
was an owl at this point. I thought it was
a human or I thought it was something that just
screamed in my window. Because that's now registering. Now I
know that was not out and now it makes sense.
And so I just grabbed my guns and I jumped
in the truck. And this is not typical of me,
but I felt like I was being hunted, and I thought,
if you're gonna hunt me, I'm gonna hunt you. And
I tore out around these trails and had my thermal
while I'm driving, and I didn't have a plan. All
I knew was at least I'll let this person know
if it's a person there, that I've seen you, and
you're not gonna come back. And that was my plan
if I had one, But really I just wanted to
assert that you're not gonna you're not gonna take advantage
of me out here in the woods, like I'm not
gonna let this happen. And so I go driving and
I park different places that there's no trail out except
by my camper where I park my truck. There's no
trail out of there except through those woods where I
hear all the noises. And so I already knew that
if you went into those woods, you would be ripped
apart there by the berry bushes. And so I thought, well,
this person's trapped back there like you. They have to
come out at some point, either they get in the
river or they go into those woods. So there's one
or two choices, or you come back by me. And
so I stayed and I waited, and I watched with
my thermal for a long time. This is a matter
of seconds, and to get to that area of woods
would have taken a human probably, I don't know, like
if you're running top speed, maybe a minute to a
minute and half to get back there and then to
get in. You're gonna lead sign. So I mean, I
theoretically was thinking, I'm going to catch whoever this is.
Do they have to come in? I mean, they have
to come out and I'll see them and they'll and
they'll know they've been spotted. No one ever came out,
couldn't find any sign of anything. So I didn't sleep
much that night. I'm really upset. I'm thinking, what did
I do coming out here? Someone has picked up on
my pattern in this time, and now now they know
I'm alone, and I'm feeling vulnerable. And so I go,
I go into town and I call my ranger friend
and I tell him, I say, you know, someone was
at the campsite last night, and so I describe what
happened and he said, oh, well that's weird, you know, like,
are you he brings up Are you sure it's human?
And I said, well, it was by peel and this
was you know, I was like, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch,
And I said, and I saw the head, the shape
of the head, I saw the shape of the shoulder,
and they were human, human ish and except for the hair,
and so he was like, well, you know, strange of
things have happened. I don't know, and he said, you know,
but there is a ranger here who has some experience
and with the pickfoot, and I'll send her by to
talk to you. And so at that point I was like,
I was like, are you kidding me? Like is some
kind of joke? Like are you really you're joking with me? Right?
So I was like thinking about, well, what did I
get myself into? This is kind of crazy. I didn't
really think he was serious about it, so I just
kind of let it go. But at least he's got
record now, like, hey, someone was out there. So I
went to the store and got some solar spotlights, go back,
set up the camp where put a big telescopic poll
up that I had laid around, put a spotlight light out,
motion censored, and I tested the perimeter. Now I know
something that knows I'm out there, and I'm going to
be more careful. And so I go and put the
lights out and make sure that you know, they'll trigger
within a certain boundary where I feel like I can
protect myself and I'm safe. And I actually at this
point now I'm leaving the windows shades kind of where
I can see the lights click on at night as
something moves by, so nothing, nothing's going to sneak up
on me. And I should say I had before that,
Before that happened that night, I had this awful sick
feeling all the time that something was watching me, like
some and you only get this feeling very I get
this feeling very very rarely, and it usually i'll walk
up on a predator, I'll walk up on something that
was watching me. But something was in that woods and
something from that direction was just not It wasn't feeling right.
And I did not go over there on purpose. I
did not cut a trail. I was cutting a lot
of trails just to navigate around this property, just so
I could go, you know, different places and kind of
look around because it was very over very overgrown. And
I should say the next morning, I did some reconnaissance
with that older man who had we had become friends,
who lived across across the river there. He came over
and I told him what happened, and he said, well,
let's go look. He said, let's go find out if
anybody went back there. We'll find you know, we'll see,
we'll see a trail, we'll see broken limbs, we'll see something.
It still had spider webs, you know, in the same
place as they were the day before. No broken limbs,
no crushed grass, nothing. And I practiced tracking all the time.
I've done this for a very long time to be
aware of my surrounding. When I'm out there, I'll look
at my own footprint from the day before, see, you know,
and I'll track myself. So not saying I didn't miss something,
but we didn't find sign of not even a human.
And so my other theory was, well, there's probably someone
out here if you know anything about some impoverished people
like to pick up the cans out of the trash
cans or such because they get a deposit back. And
so I went and checked the trash cans to see
if they still had trashing them with bottles, et cetera.
Everything's there, untouched. There was no sign of a nefarious
human that was potentially there. It didn't belong there. The
other thing is, if it was a human that was there,
they knew that land better than anyone else, which was
odd because the old man across the street knew everything
that happened there. You know, he was the local gossip
all he would tell you, you know, whose cat got out
and whatever. He's planting a garden this year. He knew everything.
And so if there was someone else out there, which
there could have been, but they would have had to
known that terrain better and how to avoid being detected
and to get out of there, or they stayed all
night long out I don't know. All I could think
was did they get into the river? But anyway, it
was just I couldn't figure it out. So I'm kind
of definitely on guard at this point, and like I said,
I put up the spotlights kind of patrol my boundary
at night, and I'm being more careful with my patterns
during the day so people don't know when I come
and go, and just kind of keeping it, you know, different.
But then a couple of nights later and I'm still concerned,
you know, that it's a human that's been there. But
then they had brought up a out bickfoot and I thought, well,
you know what, it looked a lot like a big
hairy man, a big shaggy hairy man, and he was
very tall, and but I didn't get any kind of
negative vibe, orgative, negative feeling from this the thing that
I saw that night. So moving on, I'm still thinking
about all this, trying to make sense of it. Someone
tells me, you know, you need to start leaving gifts.
If it was Bigfoot and it is there to investigate you,
it's going to come back, and they're going to come back,
and you know, you may see more. And so I'm
preparing myself that this is an option at this point,
and so I'm really cognizant of now. I'm leaving gifts
on my picnic table. I'm leaving shells and flowers that
I find, and I remember leaving a little vial of
gold that I had and I was like, you know,
if I invaded and they're here to run me off
or or figure it out, like who I am, I
want them to know that I'm I'm a I'm a
good spirit, and I'm a caretaker of the land. And
that's why that's why I'm here too, is to care
for this land, and I am of the earth just
as they are. So I'm opening myself to the belief
that this could have happened, this could be a reality,
because I can't make a human makes sense out of
this at this point. Then a few nights later, I
have a dream. I know it sounds crazy, but I
have a dream. And it was an older sasquatch, and
I only say it was a male, and it was
older in my mind. In my dream, it came to
me and it was very calming and very peaceful, and
it said, we know you're here, and yes, that was
us here, and we have been here and we had
to come figure out who you were and we had
to investigate you. And now that we've known who you are,
he said, I'll tell all the others and we won't
mess with you. He said, you're welcome to stay. And
that was I woke up from that dream in the
middle of the night and I was like what in
the world, Like, what what did I just dream? I
was so crazy. Well, after that night, the entire mood
of that forest change. There was no more weird baby crying,
there's no more luring me out there, there's no more
wood knocks. The wildlife was abundant at this point, like
coming way more wildlife was coming in. So I don't
know that's what happened. And after okay, so the owl thing,
the other thing I thought was maybe the owl was
warning me or you know, had been startled somehow by
the human or the bigfoot. Even that was over there.
And then within a couple of days, I'm in the
river and panning again, just all day long in this river,
just absorbing the magnificent nature around me, and this pure
white owl comes in the middle of the day and
it swoops down over me and it lands in front
of me on this rock and it watches me and
it just sits there and watches me pan and I'm like, oh, hi,
uh okay.
Speaker 1: This is weird.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I've got to write this stuff down.
I mean, the just the I don't know, that was
pretty magical having that owl show up to So that
was my experience.
Speaker 1: That's it, all right, Heather, thank you so much for
sharing your experiences with me. And you did an excellent
job at relaying these encounters with me. And yeah, it
sounds like traditional bigfoot activity. It started off with wood
knocks around you and they continue day after day. You
mentioned hearing laughter or like children playing, and voices in
the distance in the distance. That definitely lines up with
many other people's experiences throughout North America. And yeah, it
definitely sounds like you're being watched by them. When you
described the shaggy hairy man, it almost reminded me of
a guy in a gilly sue. I'm not saying it was,
but is that kind of what it looked like. Yeah,
in the thermal.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what it looked like, because I kept thinking,
he has a mullet. What. At first, I was like, Wow,
he's got a crazy mullet. I was like, that's that's
an epic mullet. And then I was thinking, well, that's
a way too much hair. I was like, that's not
just the hair is what I focused on, and caught
me off guard. When I was looking good at monoculars,
I was like, what in the world. Yeah, so it
would look like a gilly suit if you had to
for shag carpet.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah. I've heard both those descriptions before with
the Sasquatch, and it makes sense why they were there.
You went down a road that wasn't accessible to humans.
You had to cut trees and get them out of
the way just to drive back there, and it doesn't
seem like people have been back there for a long time.
And you also mentioned the thick berry bushes. The sasquatch
are reported to be seen around berry bushes. Were they
growing when you were in there?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, they were loaded, So they were loaded with berries.
In the apple trees. I found all these apple trees
that I don't know if someone planted them at some point.
I guess maybe they did. But they were just thick,
thick with apples. I couldn't wait for the you know,
for them to turn and plum trees and pears. I mean,
it was like an oasis back there. And I thought,
who would ever have known this was back here? I oh,
in the strawberry fields or fields of strawberry wild strawberries,
cattails which are edible, all kinds of edible things everywhere.
But the berries were very, very prolific. They're loaded with berries.
I couldn't wait. Huckleberries, blackberries, salmon berries, any kind of
berry you could think of, was in full. You know,
they were coming on. It was June in central Oregon.
They usually ripen around August, so they had a ways
to go. But yeah, it was gonna be nice and
lush there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the sasquatch will follow the food sources and
the waterways, And you had that combination there. You mentioned
the river was nearby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had thrown out a few nets. I didn't
I didn't really have time to fish. I do love
to fish, but I didn't have time. My goal was
to go gold panting, and so that was my focus.
And I throw them out, thrown out a few traps,
and I caught some catfish. I ended up letting them
go other too small, But I knew that there was
catfish in there. I'd never seen anyone back there fishing.
It was too It was an area that I didn't see,
you know, I didn't see any activity like that. There
was one night, just an occasional kayaker had gotten lost
and ended up like staggering up, you know, with his
kayak and had gotten lost stuff in there. But other
than that, there wasn't a lot of people. But yeah,
there was. There were definitely fish there too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that totally makes sense. The most disturbing part was
the baby crying. And people have often reported experiencing encryptive
creatures that seem like they're trying to lure them or
their kids or their pets into the forest. And you
mentioned you had this maternal instinct that was just pulling
you towards the woods, like you really wanted to look,
And I think that was its intentions, not necessarily to
like take you, make you go missing, but to get
you to investigate further into the woods.
Speaker 2: Oh. I definitely feel like that. I can feel the
instinct right now. It's still it's stuck with me and
I haven't. I mean, that was a really really strange
sensation to have this this time, and as a woman
hearing a baby crying like that, I really wanted to
go help, really want to go help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it also sounds like they were mimicking the owls.
I think they'll do that so kind of get closer
and closer and closer to you to kind of deter
your attention away from them making or move. And then
you heard the blood curdling scream. How can can you
describe or compare this scream to another animal?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What did it sound like?
Speaker 2: I just I don't remember it sounding like another animal.
I feel in my mind it was like a woman
screaming bloody murder right outside my window. And I thought
there was the amount of force behind it sounded way
too strong to be an owl. It was. It was
so loud I almost thought they had their face out
against my window. That kind of scream that did not
make sense. So I thought, that's not an owl. And
if it is an owl, it has just killed something
right outside my window. That's what I thought I was
going to see. I thought an owl was killing something
outside the window, which didn't make sense because the tree
wasn't right there. I looked back at pictures to make
sure I could orient myself. I was like, was there
a tree right there? There was a tree, but the
tree was probably fifteen feet away from the camper, and
so again it doesn't make sense the height of it
and everything in the forest behind. The scream was like
a woman screaming. I don't want to scream right now,
but it sounded to me like just painful, aggressive, scared,
and it was. It was a frightening sound.
Speaker 1: Can you recreate the scream for me right now? No,
I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm looking out the window of my neighbors,
like that's come running. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the professionals that are listening to this
video will tell you that it was a mountain lion,
even though they were not there, and that doesn't explain
the loud, powerful, wooden knocks like someone hitting a baseball
bat against a tree. The figure that you saw with
the thermal device, that doesn't explain the other strange activity.
And you know what you experienced, and it definitely sounds
off like the whole situation, and you definitely stumbled into
a clan of sasquatch and you were in their territory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do believe I was. I didn't feel. And
the thing is, I didn't feel threatened after that night. Now,
when it initially happened, like I said, I thought it
was my rational mind said, that is a creeper, you know,
like a man, a human man out there, and whatever
I'm seeing with the hair thing doesn't matter because that
is a human looking head and shoulder. So to me,
I felt initially threatened. But then after the dream I had,
every fear went away. It was the dream was just
as real as if it were happening, happening like if
you if he would have, demand would have I mean,
the Sasquatch would have stood in front of me and
told me this. It was a real event in my dream.
And maybe it was my subconscious protecting me or something.
I don't know, but it tied it all together and
it stopped, the noises stopped. I was no longer fearful
of that that area I had at this point. Shortly
after that, I had gotten internet, Like I got a
starlink and so I had internet access, and I'm online,
you know, listening to mountain lions, listening to cougars, joining
the local facegroup Facebook groups where they're they do actually
report any siding of the cougar. So I had knowledge
of my local area. You know, the little chatter, you know,
the local chatter when you're out places like that. You
depend on that. So people would track, you know, Oh,
I saw cougar X amount of miles up this canyon,
you know, five days ago. So I did definitely think
possibly a cat, a large cat. But I I'm no
tracking expert, but I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty aware of
my surroundings. And I I track everywhere. I've been tracking
for years. And I didn't see any large you know,
I didn't see any large cat. I looked at scat,
any scat I could find, I'd pick it up, take
it back home. I didn't care. I mean, I was
I was going to learn what was happening around me.
I wasn't going to be caught off guard. I've walked
up on a bear a bear bed before, a bear
den before I scared the crap out of me. Uh,
the smell and the the scat and the bedding and
everything I would had just walked up on it. And
I don't want to do that again. I don't want
to be put in that position because I was a
long way from help when that happened. So I'm yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1: The prolific dream though I've heard that before from other
people and guests on the channel, and it seems like
when people encounter the sasquatch or other crypto creatures, they
sometimes have dreams about them, and dreams that seem too real,
too vivid to just ride off. And biblically speaking, dreams
are important, their messages and it's hard to decode them,
and you need somebody super spiritual to like interpret the
dream and the meaning behind it.
Speaker 2: I feel like I trusted the dream more than anything
anyone else could tell me was happening, because it was
so so real, and I think I think my level
of fear, I think almost that they could sense that
my level of fear was escalating it after I was
starting to acknowledge them that there was something out there,
and I could hear them. I knew that there was
something watching me. I could feel it. I could sense it.
I could feel it. And then once the event happened
where I saw the saw this assquatch that night, my
fear level escalated and so I I almost feel like
they knew in my subconscious state where I was more subdued,
they could put it into this and just you know,
let me know, like, look, we're not going to hurt you.
We know who you are, we know you're okay. We
have investigated you, and I felt no need to go
any further. I felt no need to seek seek any
anything else out or investigate them. It was like we
had met, we examined each other, we parted ways. It
was literally like a predator and a prey or two
people challenging each other and you're like, you know what,
We're good, we just walk away. We'll call it what
it is. And only because my intent I made sure
to let them know my intentions to this land or
not to take anything from you or take anything that
I don't I'm not going to use this land. I'm
not going to take more resources than I should, I'll
protect this land for you, and I didn't want to
tell anyone. I still haven't told, but not four people
would have happened what happened there, just out of respect.
Speaker 1: The Sasquatch are known as protectors of the forest, as
some natives have said in the past, and it sounds
like they were coming in to check on you. And
they're also known to like project thoughts and feelings on people,
sometimes even like an audible voice that people claim like
they call it mind speak. So I don't want to
freak you out, but maybe when you were having that dream,
this thing was right outside your window watching you sleep.
I don't know, because like you know, when you're being watched,
like you look over and there really is a deer
standing there. A human. Yeah, Like, if you're having that dream,
probably your body was telling you like there's something there,
and the thing was watching you the whole time.
Speaker 2: I felt like it was in my presence in my dream.
It literally felt like it was in my presence and
predominantly in my right ear. While I didn't have an
audible voice, it was like mind speak. It conveyed to me,
but it looked me straight in the eyes in my
in my sleep, and so it was as if we
were having the conversation. And I remember waking up like,
oh wow, did that just happen? I was like, wow, okay,
well yeah, but yeah, I could have been because I
felt the presence. And that's why it was so real.
I could feel that presence.
Speaker 1: Oh, I totally believe you, and I feel like they
were watching over you. These are I believe that they're spiritual,
being spiritual creatures, and I think you should consider yourself
lucky for interacting with them and being able to experience
their presence, because if they wanted to take you out,
they had and they had plenty of opportunities to do that.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, did.
Speaker 1: They ever hit your camper? Or did you ever hear
like what sounded like pine cones landing on top of
the camper, just like things hitting the camper?
Speaker 2: I don't remember anything like that. And in the you know,
as I as I've come forward in the years listening
to other people's accounts, because I didn't know to pay
attention to anything like that, I had no preconceived notion
of what I should listen for look for other than
tracks or signs of of you know, like a physical
being I had no inclination to look for or listen
for any of these things. And the only reason the
wood knocks and the other sounds and the baby crying
and everything stood out because it happened so frequently that
I knew that. I was like, something is really weird,
Like something's not normal there.
Speaker 1: That totally makes sense. I was making breakfast early this
morning and I was watching a channel camera what's called
This girl was camping in Arizona and the mountains, and
she had this fancy camper up there, and when she
got up in the morning, she was like, weird, it
sounded like pine cones were hitting the top of my
camper and the entire night. And she got up there
and she filmed the whole thing, and she had like
solar panels on top of this camper. She's like, weird,
there's nothing on top of my camper. The first thing
I thought of was sasquatch. She made no mention of it,
but I guess it makes sense when people don't know
anything about it, They're just like, huh, it sounded like
something was hitting my camp or the entire night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. I also think about all the times,
I mean, I have gone. One of my big things
to do all my day off from work would be
to find a logging road where someone would just a
local would describe, you know, if you drive over this
this logging road through the mountain, you know, seventy five miles,
you'll end up, it'll come out on this road over here.
And I would do it. I would just go off
and do this, you know, adventure. You know, I prepare
for it, but I knew I had have no cell signal,
but I never thought maybe i'd see something or you know,
I was in the perfect in my mind, perfect territory
to have experienced something before, but I never I never did,
and if I did, I'd never knew to identify it
unless I were to see something. So it's curious when
you don't have a concept of what should you know
what the possibilities are, that it's not even an option.
And just like me seeing that for the first time,
seeing that hairy man, if that wasn't an option for
me because I had never considered it would happen. I
never considered that it was reality until it happened. Now
I can't wait for the next time. Oddly enough, I mean,
now I'm like very open to the experience.
Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like for hunting this thing down, you
thought it was like some creepy guy or you know,
something like a drug addict in the woods, and you
weren't going to let that happen to you. I'm sure
that put you on their radar. And when they realize
you're protecting yourself, that's probably when you had that dream
and they're like, Okay, you're cool, we're cool, everything's good here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think I would do that. Now,
I don't know why I did it.
Speaker 1: Then, it just you're vulnerable in that situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And usually I found that if you can well,
in my line of work, like people that bluff really
hard like that, they're aggressive. If you just kind of
meet them with they're the same energy, it's going to
go one way or the other. You're gonna you're gonna
come face to face or well, somebody's going to back off. See, okay, cool,
we're good, We're good. So I was like, I'm just
going to show you you're not going to come stalk
me at night, You're not gonna come hunt me, because
that's really what I felt like that night as I
was being hunted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that definitely makes sense. And when you said you
started hearing heavy footsteps and you pulled out your thermal
device and saw this being and can I completely understand
why you felt the way you did. And I wouldn't
want somebody stalking me out in the woods. That would
definitely put me on high alert. Yeah, what kind of
thermal device were you using? Do you know the brand?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know the brand. I bought it back
before they were you know, affordable, like twenty nineteen is
when I bought this one. I don't know the brand,
but I mean it's everyone I've shown it to and
let's play with it. It's like, wow, that's nice. It's binocular,
not monocular.
Speaker 1: Okay, it could be like an AGM or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I have to get it out
and look at it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a good thing you had that around.
And they're definitely handy and you never know if you're
going to run into sasquatch, So it's always good if
you're going into the outdoors to bring a camcorder or
a thermal device because you might get the best footage
ever seen by man.
Speaker 2: Well, and then people, you know, people are always like, well,
it does have a record option on there. But when
you're in a situation like that and you're not expecting
things to happen, those hitting record would have take too
long to take my eyes away from what's happening in
front of me to concentrate on Am I recording right now?
Look back? So when you're trying and it felt like
a survival moment for me. This was a survival to
situation where I did have time to record something or
to think about it. Even in fact jumping in the truck,
I don't even know if I'm like keys or anything.
I mean, that's how quickly this happened, so to be recording,
I know people are like, oh, he didn't get a recorded, No,
it was a blink of an eye. I mean he
was a blink in time.
Speaker 1: No. No, that definitely makes sense. When your life is
in danger, that's the last thing on your mind, or
if something runs out super quick, like you're more focused
on what's in front of you than what's around you. Yeah,
and the forest ranger, he seemed to be pretty cool
and open minded to the existence of sasquatch, and it
kind of sounds like he's heard reports in the area
in the past, and he knew another ranger that has
had experiences and run ins with the Sasquatch. I wonder
why she never contacted you.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I waited, you know,
I eagerly anticipated having a conversation. She was the only
one I felt like I could potentially, you know, really
talk to about it, because he said she had experienced
multiple things. He's like, I know exactly who to send here,
he said, I know who to send to you. He said,
we have another ranger and I'll send her over. And
I thought, oh, finally, Okay, that's good. You know, I
don't know she's going to tell me. It might scare me.
I actually thought, well, she might scare me enough I
might just leave. But I was willing, absolutely willing to
talk to her. But it didn't happen. You never know,
they had districts and areas they have to patrol, and
so these are vast, vast areas. They may not even
come to the same area for like but once a month.
They might not make it to that territory where they're
assigned to for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she probably got tied up with their line of
work or who knows. I get people all the time
that say they got a sasquatch encounter, and they say
they're going to contact me, and I never hear from
them again. But yeah, is there anything else that you
would like to share? Anything that maybe you forgot to mention?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think so. I think
I covered it all.
Speaker 1: Well. I'm glad you decided to open up about your experiences,
and you did an excellent job describing everything in detail.
So I appreciate you so much for helping out the channel,
and hopefully more people from the Cottage Grove area and
organ will chime in and share their personal experiences with everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I really would like to hear if someone else
has experienced something around there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, And hopefully if you run into them again,
you'll contact me and share your experience with me in
the future.
Speaker 2: I sure will.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much, other great, thank you. Heather's
experiences raise a lot of questions about what may truly
exist in these remote wilderness areas, from the unexplained wood
knocks and screams to the humanoid figure she observed through
thermal optics. The activity seemed intelligent, cautious, and deeply connected
to the environment around her. Whether you believe these encounters
point to sasquatch or something unknown living deep within the forest,
Heather's story is one she will never forget. I could
certainly relate to Heather's experiences when she was talking about
the trees blocking the road and she had to clear
the path to this remote wilderness area, and the Sasquatch
are known to block off trails, and that's why they
dwell in these areas because there's a lack of human
presence in these remote areas. Also, the strange dream that
was truly fascinating. I've been hearing a lot more people
talking about these Sasquatch encrypted dreams, and I've had them
myself in the past, and they can't be ignored. I
feel like that is a clue to this mystery. And
dreams are prophetic, they have a meaning to them if
you're wise enough to decode the purpose of it. If
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