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<v Speaker 1>I live in rural Tennessee, and I was raised in

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<v Speaker 1>a multicultural family with Irish and Native American Cherokee roots.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up, I heard many stories about wild things in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. I didn't pay much attention to them until

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<v Speaker 1>I started having my own experiences. Once, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a young child, I was in the cemetery of the

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<v Speaker 1>church where all my family had been laid to rest.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw a young girl playing among the tombstones.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew she wasn't alive, but I wasn't scared. Not

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<v Speaker 1>long after that, my great uncle told me about a

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<v Speaker 1>time that he encountered a wild man nine feet tall,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was covered in hair. He moved so fast

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<v Speaker 1>that he could vanish one second and reappear the next

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<v Speaker 1>and possibly far away. I was playing outside once when

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<v Speaker 1>I heard a high pitched scream coming from the tall

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<v Speaker 1>grass across the road. I didn't know what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew it was big, and I took off running.

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<v Speaker 1>My father said it was probably the panther known to

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<v Speaker 1>live in the area. Needless to say, I was cautious

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<v Speaker 1>about being outside alone after that. Well, life went on

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<v Speaker 1>and I grew up, and now I have kids of

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<v Speaker 1>my own. It was a fall night, one where you

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<v Speaker 1>know your hear codes all around. I didn't worry because

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<v Speaker 1>we had great dogs that kept us safe, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was inside with all the windows open. My children were

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<v Speaker 1>tuck safely in bed, and I was watching my favorite show.

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<v Speaker 1>The next thing I knew, something started talking outside my window.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded straight out of National Geographic like orangutang speaking

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<v Speaker 1>gibberish back and forth to one another. I quickly shut

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<v Speaker 1>and locked all the windows and went to bed that night,

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<v Speaker 1>my heart filled with fear, not knowing what was outside

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<v Speaker 1>my house. The next day, I visited my sister, who

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<v Speaker 1>told me it was probably just owls mating, since it

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<v Speaker 1>was that season. That eased my worries for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>until one night I heard what sounded like a horse

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<v Speaker 1>breathing into one of my open windows. The window was

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<v Speaker 1>ten feet off the ground. I rushed over and shut

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<v Speaker 1>the window, knowing no owl on earth had breath that heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>About a year ago, I went on a walk to

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<v Speaker 1>my friend's house a country mile away. On one side

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<v Speaker 1>of the road was a pasture with grazing cows, but

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side was a dense, dark wall of

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<v Speaker 1>trees so thick and dark you couldn't see into them.

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<v Speaker 1>I was walking, I noticed the sound of the brush

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<v Speaker 1>and the leaves crunching underfoot of something just inside the trees.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, I thought it was one of my dogs

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stay quiet while stalking a rabbit or a squirrel.

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<v Speaker 1>That was until I realized whatever it was, it was

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<v Speaker 1>keeping pace with me. When I stopped, it stopped, and

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<v Speaker 1>when I walked, it walked. I got scared, and I

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<v Speaker 1>picked up my pace, and I heard it following me

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<v Speaker 1>the whole way. It's footsteps weren't light like a dog's.

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<v Speaker 1>They were heavy, like something much bigger, taller than me.

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<v Speaker 1>When I finally got to the clearing before my friend's property,

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<v Speaker 1>I sprinted across the open field all the way to

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<v Speaker 1>her house. Like everything else in my life, the more

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<v Speaker 1>strange things that happen, the more I get used to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe some of us are like beacons in the night,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can't control what is drawn to us. My

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<v Speaker 1>kids and I don't go on walks at dusk anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and I rarely leave my windows open at night. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's because I've become more cautious of

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<v Speaker 1>what's hanging around my family, or because of the logging

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<v Speaker 1>in the forest around our home, but we don't experience

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<v Speaker 1>nearly as many any strange things as we used to.

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<v Speaker 1>In the summer of nineteen seventy one in southern Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was in the living room with his family

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<v Speaker 1>when a twelve foot tall bigfoot suddenly appeared in the

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<v Speaker 1>front window, so large that it blocked all the light.

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<v Speaker 1>It ran off when his dad jumped up and ran

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<v Speaker 1>outside with his rifle in his hands. Well a little

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<v Speaker 1>while later, noise erupted from the barn, and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>ran outside and headed toward it, wondering what was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>And on the way he passed a giant footprint and

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<v Speaker 1>the mud. Then he decided to stop and wait and

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<v Speaker 1>see if this thing would come out. The noise settled

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<v Speaker 1>for a moment and then picked up quickly again. As

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<v Speaker 1>it burst outside, my dad ran back toward the house,

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<v Speaker 1>shouting to his family that it was coming back. It

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<v Speaker 1>let out an ear splitting scream just as he made

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<v Speaker 1>it inside, and then turned worse and headed for the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody talked about it after that. It wasn't until I

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<v Speaker 1>began talking about bigfoot that they finally told me the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I had often played in those woods as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>More than a few times I heard strange noises and

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<v Speaker 1>knocks nearby. Now that I know what they saw, I

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<v Speaker 1>wait for the day that I can see one myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I experienced something with my brother by my side, and

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<v Speaker 1>neither of us will ever forget it. I was eleven

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<v Speaker 1>years old in the summer of nineteen fifty one, and

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<v Speaker 1>we had recently moved to Lake Charles, Louisiana. Our dad

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<v Speaker 1>was assigned to a small neighbor group there as a

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<v Speaker 1>supply officer. We were cut from the cloth of the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties. We were told to get out and play

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<v Speaker 1>and not come back until dark thirty. My brother and

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<v Speaker 1>I lived wild and free, or at least as far

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<v Speaker 1>as our minds and muscles would take us. Lake Charles

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<v Speaker 1>was surrounded by swamps of varying densities and darkness. My

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<v Speaker 1>brother and I found the remnants of a narrow gage

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<v Speaker 1>railroad track the week before, and we were held bent

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<v Speaker 1>for leather to follow it. We knew it was not

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<v Speaker 1>in use due to the rust on the rails in

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<v Speaker 1>the poor condition of the endless trustle so with our

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<v Speaker 1>sack lunches tuck securely in our belts, and our daisy

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<v Speaker 1>red Rider BB guns loaded up, we took off on

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<v Speaker 1>our adventure. Some well meaning older people warned us to

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<v Speaker 1>mind the gators, but their words of wisdom went right

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<v Speaker 1>over our heads because we couldn't think of anything an

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<v Speaker 1>alligator would tell us that we would have to mind. Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>we barely minded our own parents. We carefully walked the tracks,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the trustle, then the tracks, going deeper and

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<v Speaker 1>deeper into the swamp. Occasionally we would shoot at water

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<v Speaker 1>moccasin swimming away away from us, And the further we went,

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<v Speaker 1>the more we wondered who would run a railroad through

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<v Speaker 1>such a precarious trestle, and to what end? The tracks

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<v Speaker 1>turned south and came upon an eastern berm. Nestled next

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<v Speaker 1>to the berm were the remnants of an old rice mill.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the brick walls were still standing, forming a

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<v Speaker 1>large square enclosure, and the floor was covered with brackish water.

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<v Speaker 1>There were snakes of plenty to shoot, and that we

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<v Speaker 1>did with much gusto. The pool of water erupted into

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<v Speaker 1>a violent frenzy, and it scared me so bad it

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<v Speaker 1>took two years off my life. A portion of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the brick walls had come down, allowing a ten

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<v Speaker 1>foot long alligator to slip in during the high tide event,

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<v Speaker 1>trapping it there. My brother was of the opinion that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to kill this thing and drag it

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<v Speaker 1>back to the house and stuff it need. I remind you,

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<v Speaker 1>Daisy does not make high pur bb guns. The gator

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<v Speaker 1>sank to eye level, all the water around it began

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<v Speaker 1>to vibrate from a deep throated sound that it started

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<v Speaker 1>to make. Our limited knowledge of this creature left us amazed.

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<v Speaker 1>Little did we know it was calling for reinforcements. During

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<v Speaker 1>this commotion, we heard another terrifying sound in the distance,

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<v Speaker 1>a loud, promal roar, nothing like the sound of gator makes.

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<v Speaker 1>There was crashing and splashing coming toward us, and with

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<v Speaker 1>our collective valor, my brother and I hauled our butts

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<v Speaker 1>back the way we came. But before we ever got

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<v Speaker 1>out of the swamp, we heard the confrontation, the likes

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<v Speaker 1>of nothing we had ever heard before or since. We

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<v Speaker 1>never saw the creature that came to challenge the alligator,

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<v Speaker 1>nor did we know why. The following weekend we screwed

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<v Speaker 1>up the courage to go back and see what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in that pit. We were apprehensive about going back, but

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<v Speaker 1>youth has no shortage of stupid. The rice meal was

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<v Speaker 1>in shambles, mud and blood had been splattered at least

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<v Speaker 1>eight feet up the wall. There were tufts of reddish

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<v Speaker 1>brown hair caught up in some places of the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>and the head of the alligator was in the corner

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<v Speaker 1>of the room where it was shallow. It looked like

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<v Speaker 1>something had grabbed the upper and lower jaws and ripped

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<v Speaker 1>its mouth apart. That would not have killed the gator,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sure made it impotent as a killing machine.

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<v Speaker 1>The neck appeared to have been separated by a series

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<v Speaker 1>of bites. That alligator had been every bit of ten

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<v Speaker 1>feet long when we saw it, but besides the head,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it was missing. That had to be

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<v Speaker 1>at least four hundred pounds of meat and bone. We

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<v Speaker 1>never went back into the swamp that far again. We

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned in passing a little of what we experienced to

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<v Speaker 1>our friends whose family lived on a houseboat and the

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<v Speaker 1>Caucasou River. He casually mentioned there was a swamp man

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<v Speaker 1>creature back in there, and we'd best not do that again.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for letting me get this off my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never told a single soul of this event,

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<v Speaker 1>though my brother told everyone who would listen. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>in Lake Charles, he was preaching to the choir. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was twelve years old, a friend and I were

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<v Speaker 1>messing around on the watch Tall River in Oklahoma, where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from, running with my full blooded German shepherd and

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<v Speaker 1>shooting at cans and different things with our bebee guns.

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<v Speaker 1>We started thinking we were being messed with by some

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<v Speaker 1>friends who must have followed us down the river, because

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<v Speaker 1>rocks and sticks started being thrown at us. At one point,

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<v Speaker 1>a boulder went right over our heads and landed in

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<v Speaker 1>the river. We couldn't see who was doing it, and

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<v Speaker 1>when we yelled at whoever it was, we got no answer.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole time, the dog was acting skittish, which was

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<v Speaker 1>unusual for him, so we finally decided to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of there, and we took the road instead of walking

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<v Speaker 1>through the wheat field the same way we came in.

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<v Speaker 1>We made it to the railroad tracks six hundred feet

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<v Speaker 1>from the river when we looked back and got the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest surprise of our lives. Right behind us was a

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot crouched in the tall brush. My friend and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't move. We just stared as it slowly stood upright,

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<v Speaker 1>towering over the branches of the trees around it. But

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<v Speaker 1>our legs started working again in a hurry and we

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<v Speaker 1>got out of There. Must have been a week later

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<v Speaker 1>along the same river that a farmer reported seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>huge black creature walking upright like a man. I joined

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<v Speaker 1>the army at seventeen, and I became a paratrooper right

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<v Speaker 1>out of high school. In April of nineteen ninety three,

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<v Speaker 1>I was part of a training exercise at Fort Chaffee, Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>on the border of Oklahoma. We were conducting patrols on

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<v Speaker 1>the Devil's Backbone, an area with rugged rocky cliffs. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a clear and chilly night, and by training, our

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<v Speaker 1>senses were on high alert. It's amazing how sharp they

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<v Speaker 1>become when you spend lots of time outdoors. Sight, smell,

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<v Speaker 1>and hearing all become sharper. At two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard a blood curdling scream as animal as it

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<v Speaker 1>was humid, and it echoed through the woods below the

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<v Speaker 1>Backbone and had all of our heads turning. We started

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<v Speaker 1>whispering to each other trying to figure out what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>When it screamed again, and then the knocking started, like

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<v Speaker 1>something was hitting trees with a giant baseball bat. We

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<v Speaker 1>never figured out what it was, but the experience stayed

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I know there's something out there, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to believe it was a sasquatch or a dog man.

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<v Speaker 1>love watching and listening to your channel. Thanks mister Buckner

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<v Speaker 1>for reading my story. You're welcome, sir, appreciate everything you

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you, and what a good story. Thanks. When I

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<v Speaker 1>morning I would look for footprints, but the ground was

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't see it anything, And after that I never

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<v Speaker 1>heard the steps again. Often saw trees crossed in the

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<v Speaker 1>I always wished I had looked out the window, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was too afraid. Even to this day, fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid i'll see something looking back at me. Back

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<v Speaker 1>just four or five old log cabins without houses. We

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<v Speaker 1>those were the good old days. One morning, Mama wanted

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<v Speaker 1>by the house was overgrown with bushes and trees. As

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<v Speaker 1>some huge dog tracks. Right then Mama grabbed my arm

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<v Speaker 1>and she said don't move. Seventy five feet from the

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<v Speaker 1>water's edge stood an eight foot long black panther, hissing

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<v Speaker 1>at us. My hair stood up at thing's legs were

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<v Speaker 1>as tall as mine, and all I had to defend

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves with was two cane poles. Mama told me, don't

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<v Speaker 1>he turned, and he ran along the pone's edge and

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<v Speaker 1>uncle Daniel lived down the road, and the next day

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<v Speaker 1>I told him what happened. He said he'd seen him

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<v Speaker 1>years earlier, but didn't tell us because he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to scare any of us. I told him I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to catch that cat. My uncle gave me one

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<v Speaker 1>of his old bear traps, and I took it back

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<v Speaker 1>to the pond, and every day after school I checked

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<v Speaker 1>on it. On the third day, I saw the trap

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<v Speaker 1>was clamped shut, with a half inch cloth stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>it and black hair and some meat caught inside. I

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<v Speaker 1>no black panthers in Georgia. I thought that man was

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<v Speaker 1>full of it. Almost got eaten by one. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe he was a game. Warning didn't know about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Those cats would howl behind our house at night. Sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like teenage girls getting murdered. I'd shoot in their direction

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<v Speaker 1>to quiet them down, and it would work for a

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<v Speaker 1>few hours, but they always picked back up after a

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<v Speaker 1>little while. Always wondered why I'd find little wooden crosses

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<v Speaker 1>tied together with vines in the woods, or why we'd

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<v Speaker 1>find rocks stacked on the banister of the back porch.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me wonder what else was out there running

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<v Speaker 1>with that panther. Sometimes I'd be home alone at night

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd hear things hitting the house. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>was only seventeen then, and it scared me because I

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<v Speaker 1>About a year later, I was coming home with Daddy

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<v Speaker 1>three months after that, Daddy asked me to get my

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<v Speaker 1>it was really foggy, but I made it to his

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times, but he didn't answer, so I gave

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<v Speaker 1>finally got through, I saw his face and his shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>were missing. I set the grass on fire. Leaving his cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>I got back to the house screaming for my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>telling him that Uncle Daniel was dead. And when he

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<v Speaker 1>rushed back to his cabin, I stayed outside and looked around.

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<v Speaker 1>I found those panther tracks outside, right below a window

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<v Speaker 1>with the screen torn out. Years later, in nineteen eighty two,

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<v Speaker 1>I was bowhunting at the Sansavia Management Area. I parked

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<v Speaker 1>my truck about one hundred yards down an old logging road.

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<v Speaker 1>I took my eight foot tree standing bow, and I

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<v Speaker 1>stand when I looked to my left and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>two doughs heading my way. I waited for him. But

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<v Speaker 1>when they got near me, they froze. They were so

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<v Speaker 1>close I could see their eyelashes, but they weren't looking

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<v Speaker 1>at me. They were focused on my truck. Just as

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<v Speaker 1>I started to draw back, they bolted and I heard

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<v Speaker 1>the most pissed off growl I'd ever heard sound through

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<v Speaker 1>those woods, coming from near my truck. I'd never heard

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<v Speaker 1>something so deep and angry in my life. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>heard trees breaking logs five to eight inches snapping. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard a growl again as it crossed the road, moving

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<v Speaker 1>away from me, and I got the nerve to leave

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<v Speaker 1>my stand. I held my ladder in front of me

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<v Speaker 1>the whole way, thinking I might need to fight my

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<v Speaker 1>way out. I made it out okay, though, but the

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<v Speaker 1>growl scared me so bad it burned into my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for letting me vent. You really are a good storyteller,

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<v Speaker 1>and he signs off, well, thank you. You're a good storyteller.

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<v Speaker 1>You wrote it. All I did was just read it. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>You're a good storyteller. But I sure appreciate the story, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Okay, here's a story about dogs. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked for dog story while back. I've been dropping

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<v Speaker 1>one here and there, let's read a good dog story.

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<v Speaker 1>I think y'all are like this. Watching your chickens amuses

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<v Speaker 1>me and it brings to mine. An experience that happened

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<v Speaker 1>when my wife and I just moved to Bradenton, Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>We needed a place to park and live in our

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<v Speaker 1>converted step vand we found a newspaper ad for caretakers

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<v Speaker 1>to watch over Honest Bob's Orange Grove while they were

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<v Speaker 1>up north in New Jersey at the zoo where they

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<v Speaker 1>always took their animals during the summer. The couple had

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<v Speaker 1>two African lion cubs, a chimpanzee named Timmy, a cougar

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<v Speaker 1>named Dusty, and several show doverman pincers, which they displayed

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<v Speaker 1>at the zoo. It's so happened that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>circus and zoo people wintered in the same area with

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<v Speaker 1>their animals. It was nothing to hear lines roar and

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<v Speaker 1>elephants trumpeting and a cougar snarl and Timmy doing his

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<v Speaker 1>chimp sounds and jumping around. Then there was an occasional

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<v Speaker 1>wild board that would come into the grove rooting around

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<v Speaker 1>early in the morning. We were happy there and life

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<v Speaker 1>was really good. We had our jobs to go to

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<v Speaker 1>during the day and would come home to the grove,

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<v Speaker 1>as we called it. The couple soon took off with

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<v Speaker 1>their menagerie of animals in tow, and we would come

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<v Speaker 1>home and shoe the chickens out of a fenced in

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<v Speaker 1>we would let out our dogs out of a smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>As luck would have it, The one chicken that the

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<v Speaker 1>One evening, we came home and we shewed the chickens

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<v Speaker 1>in it. My dog was named Dog. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty pound German short hair pointer. My wife's dog was

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<v Speaker 1>named Ben. He was a mix of New Founlin and

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<v Speaker 1>They were looking guilty. Phillis, the Chinese silky chicken, was

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<v Speaker 1>lying dead nearby. Ben had this look on his face

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<v Speaker 1>like chicken, I don't know nothing about no chicken, all

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<v Speaker 1>the while sitting there with the white feather sticking out

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<v Speaker 1>of his big mouth. It was something like you'd see

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<v Speaker 1>in an old cartoon. Dog would occasionally glance at Ben

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<v Speaker 1>and his partner in crime, chiding him for not wiping

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<v Speaker 1>the feathers off before we came out. We decided the

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<v Speaker 1>prize chicken had committed suicide, as it had hidden under

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer until we were gone and then left itself

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<v Speaker 1>to the mercy of Beavis and butt Head. Every morning

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<v Speaker 1>we would be up before daylight, and before heading off

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<v Speaker 1>to work, we would put the dogs in the high

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<v Speaker 1>fence pen. One evening, we came home to find the

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<v Speaker 1>rooster dead in the pen with the dogs. It was

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<v Speaker 1>stiff and it looked like it had been running around

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<v Speaker 1>with them with no place to go. The fence was

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<v Speaker 1>at least six feet high. We finally figured out that

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<v Speaker 1>he had roosted in a tree above the kennel, and

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<v Speaker 1>when he woke up, he flew to the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>he landed and the dog pin. Now, I like chickens.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up around chickens, and I love eggs and

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<v Speaker 1>fried chicken. But the way these two met their demise

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit disturbing, even to me. Although this story

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with cryptids, I hope it gave

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<v Speaker 1>you a life. Two chickens were indeed harmed in this story.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, they were terminated. I have several Bigfoot stories

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<v Speaker 1>for you, as well as a ghost story and a

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<v Speaker 1>demon story, and lots of UFO experiences. I look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to relating them to you and your listeners. I was

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<v Speaker 1>born deep in the Appalachian Mountains in southern West by God,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia in nineteen forty nine and had an amazing childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>We grew up wild and free. My cousin Eddie and

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<v Speaker 1>I ran those mountains like we owned them. We both

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<v Speaker 1>carried large hunting knives from the age of six or

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<v Speaker 1>seven and only came home when we got hungry. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Bigfoots watched over us as we explored. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good dog story. I mean it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a sweet sentimental stories. These dogs are killers, chicken killers.

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<v Speaker 1>When we first got chickens, our dog Roxy, she snuck

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<v Speaker 1>in the pen and she killed a couple of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all ever see these chickens with her every real skinny,

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<v Speaker 1>tall necks and have strange looking feathers on their heads.

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<v Speaker 1>We bought two of them, a little one and a

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<v Speaker 1>either adolescent or adult chickens, but nobody would buy them

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<v Speaker 1>because they were so ugly. So we bought them and

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<v Speaker 1>brought them home, and we kept them separate from the

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<v Speaker 1>other chickens because there's always the pecking order, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So we had them in a little I don't know,

418
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<v Speaker 1>I think I made just this little wire cage with

419
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<v Speaker 1>a top on it, just to keep them in the

420
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<v Speaker 1>pen with the other chickens so they could get used

421
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<v Speaker 1>to them. And you know, after a while you turn

422
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<v Speaker 1>them loose and they fin for themselves. But little o'

423
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<v Speaker 1>Roxy worked her way in that wire chicken wire get up,

424
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<v Speaker 1>I did, and she killed both of those chickens, and

425
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<v Speaker 1>they were laying dead in there. I knew she did it,

426
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<v Speaker 1>and she was acting like she had nothing to do

427
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<v Speaker 1>with it. She'd walk up and she'd see that little

428
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<v Speaker 1>pen and then she'd kind of walk away and like

429
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<v Speaker 1>not even look at it. It's funny how dogs will

430
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<v Speaker 1>know when they're in trouble, and they'll they're just like us.

431
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<v Speaker 1>They'll act like they didn't do anything. But that's what

432
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<v Speaker 1>that story reminded me of. Anyway, I thought that was

433
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<v Speaker 1>a good dog story. I really appreciate it. Lived in

434
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<v Speaker 1>a house for forty four years in upstate New York

435
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<v Speaker 1>along the Susquehanna. I think that's how you pronounce it,

436
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Susquehanna River. It's a beautiful old Victorian on the side

437
00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of a hill. The front overlooks a dying small town

438
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.799
<v Speaker 1>across the river. In the back faces a hillside a

439
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.640
<v Speaker 1>thick forest. I came upon this place when I was

440
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<v Speaker 1>in the market. The long winding driveway was a plus

441
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 1>because we like our privacy. The place had already been emptied.

442
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>When I spoke to the owner, whom I knew from work.

443
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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't wait to sell the place, and he kept

444
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<v Speaker 1>lowering the price until I couldn't say no. This was

445
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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy nine. Later I found out why he was

446
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>so anxious to sell. Whenever we'd get to talking at work,

447
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.319
<v Speaker 1>he would ask me if anything weird ever happened to

448
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 1>me there. I finally asked him what he was referring to,

449
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.599
<v Speaker 1>and he began telling me that his wife wouldn't stay

450
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>there because of the noises she heard at night. One time,

451
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>he and his buddies were sitting around a campfire. They

452
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 1>heard the noises too, and their pit bull ran scared

453
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:14.119
<v Speaker 1>back to the house. He finally admitted that he thought

454
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<v Speaker 1>it was bigfoot, and I thought he was pulling my leg.

455
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I had lived there for decades, and it wasn't until

456
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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four that something finally happened. On a

457
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<v Speaker 1>hot summer afternoon, a fire station pickup came zooming up

458
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<v Speaker 1>the driveway after getting a report of a fire on

459
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<v Speaker 1>our back hill. I'd been outside and I'd not seen

460
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<v Speaker 1>any trace of a fire, so he drove back down.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen minutes later, he came back up after driving to

462
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<v Speaker 1>the opposite hill to get a better view. He said

463
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<v Speaker 1>he saw a glowing ball that looked like a fire.

464
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<v Speaker 1>He looked around my property, but once again we didn't

465
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<v Speaker 1>see any flames. My kids and I spent a lot

466
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<v Speaker 1>of time up in the woods on our back hill.

467
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<v Speaker 1>One day, not far from our house, there was a

468
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<v Speaker 1>stand of about thirty saplings twenty feet tall, all bent

469
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<v Speaker 1>at forty five degree angles. It was clearly intentional, but

470
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 1>we had no explanation for it. We would often hear

471
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<v Speaker 1>what we thought was drumming from different spots, sometimes close

472
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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes far off. One summer night, my daughter came

473
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>into my bed because she said she heard something throwing

474
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.599
<v Speaker 1>stones on the driveway. In the fall of two thousand

475
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and five, my German shepherd and I were inside. I

476
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 1>had my music blasting while I was cleaning, when out

477
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere, there was a loud bang on the side

478
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 1>of the house. My dog barked and ran to the window.

479
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I turned down the music and I looked, but I

480
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:54.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't see anything. It didn't hit me until I happened

481
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:58.079
<v Speaker 1>U point your channel what these things could have possibly been.

482
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I started doing a little research, looked at the BFRO

483
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and found an actual sighting on my hill a half

484
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:09.519
<v Speaker 1>mile down the road. I'm now convinced that there was

485
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 1>a group of Bigfoot, maybe not always present, but perhaps

486
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 1>a stopover on their migration. I no longer live there.

487
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>My wonderful kids have grown, and I've downsized to a

488
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>cabin that borders the state land. Obviously, I have proven

489
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I can coexist with the wild world, though I'm glad

490
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I was oblivious to the Bigfoot activity when it was happening.

491
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<v Speaker 1>All right, that was eight stories. I hope you guys

492
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that. I'm going to put an archived story or

493
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<v Speaker 1>two behind this, so there's still a little bit more

494
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to go on the podcast if you want to stick

495
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.799
<v Speaker 1>around and listen to some of these older stories that

496
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.519
<v Speaker 1>are excellent. They're just all the stories I do are

497
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:54.519
<v Speaker 1>really good. I don't know how you guys write them

498
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>so well and have such odd experiences. It is so

499
00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>fascinating to me. But I give all the credit to you.

500
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Like I told a person who wrote in the story

501
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>in this podcast, all I do is read them. None

502
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff happened to me. You all are sharing

503
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.799
<v Speaker 1>your stories with the rest of the world, is what

504
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:16.039
<v Speaker 1>you're doing, and I'm just reading them, so I sure

505
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.599
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Here comes a couple of stories from the vault,

506
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.039
<v Speaker 1>and then the podcast will end after I guess maybe

507
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know second story. Hope you guys have a

508
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.079
<v Speaker 1>good weekend and we'll see on the next one. Thanks.

509
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<v Speaker 1>Back in nineteen eighty four, my family lived on a

510
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.359
<v Speaker 1>farm on the edge of town in the heart of Kentucky.

511
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.039
<v Speaker 1>The house sat on a hilltop with a big black

512
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>barn behind it and a long, narrow valley beyond that.

513
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>The house set well above the roadway and even higher

514
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>above the valley. The valley set even lower and was

515
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by woods. I was sixteen and feeling pretty low.

516
00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>My girlfriend had just called me on the phone and

517
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>broken up with me after two months. She didn't even

518
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.599
<v Speaker 1>give me a reason. It was February, but the weather

519
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 1>was beginning to show signs of spring after a long winter.

520
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 1>The temperature was somewhat in the mid forties and there

521
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:16.799
<v Speaker 1>were only a few patches of snow here and there.

522
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 1>I needed to get away and think, so I headed

523
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>for my favorite spot, and for me, that was the woods.

524
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I spent a great deal of time there, and sometimes

525
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:31.839
<v Speaker 1>with friends, but usually alone. My father had left my

526
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 1>mother when I was young, so the male role models

527
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.599
<v Speaker 1>in my life were my two uncles. They taught me

528
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 1>to hunt and fish, and to appreciate the beauty and

529
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>wonder of nature. In those woods, there were a couple

530
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of great guys. Looking back, I really missed those times

531
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>that we spent together. I walked down to the bottom

532
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of the valley, like I generally did, I was deep

533
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>in thought about why my girl would break up with me,

534
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't paying attention when I heard I heard

535
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.039
<v Speaker 1>a thumping sound. It was something solid hitting the grass

536
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 1>covered ground. I looked around and saw a rock about

537
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:11.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty feet from me rolling uphill. I figured it was

538
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>either my sister or my brother playing a trick on me,

539
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>so I turned to look back the way I came,

540
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 1>expecting to see one of them, and I scanned around looking,

541
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>but they weren't there. As I turned to my left,

542
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 1>still looking for my siblings, I saw a twenty foot

543
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 1>patch of snow with four human shaped footprints in it.

544
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 1>It was a little unnerving to see the footprints because first,

545
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>whoever made these prints wasn't wearing shoes. It wasn't freezing out,

546
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 1>but it was still cold. Walking in the snow would

547
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>have made it feel even colder. Second, these prints were huge.

548
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I walked over and compared them to my boot. They

549
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>were nearly twice as long as my foot and much wider,

550
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and the stride was a lot longer than I could

551
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>have made. I was still examining the footprints when I

552
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>heard another rock hit the ground and I turned in

553
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>the direction of the sound, and I saw the rock

554
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty feet away rolling downhill. This time it was bigger

555
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:16.079
<v Speaker 1>than the first, roughly the size of my fist, and

556
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I knew immediately it couldn't have been my brother or sister.

557
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I was far older and stronger than them, and I

558
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>doubt I could have thrown it from any possible hiding spots.

559
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I then thought it might have been one of my

560
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.279
<v Speaker 1>friends who lived close, and I knew Tommy was out

561
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>of town visiting relatives, and Scotty had been in bed

562
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>all week with a bad case of the flu. They

563
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>were the only ones who ever came over, so I

564
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 1>looked around again. Who was throwing rocks at me? The

565
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 1>tracks probably should have sent me running home, but I

566
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>honestly thought someone was playing a prank on me. My

567
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>uncles taught me that tracks made in the snow will

568
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>expand when they melt, so I figured it was just

569
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a joke. I walked forward with a lot of confidence.

570
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>You better knock it off. I'm throw rocks too, I said.

571
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Another rock was chucked at me. This time I saw

572
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 1>it in mid flight, so I knew it was coming

573
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:14.800
<v Speaker 1>from the left corner of the woods, near the property line.

574
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>It was two hundred feet from me, and I thought,

575
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 1>whoever was throwing these rocks must have a pretty good arm.

576
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Another rock landed ten feet to my right. I was

577
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>getting angry now, so I walked over and picked it

578
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 1>up before it stopped rolling. It was a little bigger

579
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>than I would have normally wanted to throw, but in

580
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>my frustration, I threw it back. Then I screamed an

581
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:43.159
<v Speaker 1>insult at whoever this was for good measure. My throw

582
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 1>was way off the mark. It hit the ground well

583
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.119
<v Speaker 1>short of the tree line, so I looked around for

584
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:51.639
<v Speaker 1>another rock to throw. I found a few in the

585
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.480
<v Speaker 1>grass between the patches of snow, so I picked one

586
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>up that fit my hand better. This time. It hit

587
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a tree just inside the woodline. Then I saw a

588
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>movement eighty feet to my left in the nearest section

589
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of trees. It was a lot closer to me than

590
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:12.679
<v Speaker 1>where the rocks were coming from. I only got a glimpse,

591
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe four or five seconds at most. Most of it

592
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>was obscured by the thick brush and trees. I saw

593
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>a dark upper portion of a massive right shoulder blade

594
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>and a huge moving arm about seven feet off the ground. Also,

595
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I saw what looked like thick legs as it ran

596
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:36.280
<v Speaker 1>behind a tree. It was completely covered in reddish hair

597
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that bounced as it disappeared into the trees. I was

598
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>nearly awe struck. Its movements were so graceful and fluid.

599
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>It was completely different from how a deer or a

600
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>human would move. Now I knew immediately it wasn't a

601
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>bear or a cougar. It was too large. Both bears

602
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>and cougars are extremely rare in Kentucky, and neither of

603
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>them throw rocks. I barely had time to register what

604
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I was seeing when another rock landed five feet from me.

605
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:09.639
<v Speaker 1>It came from the same direction as the others. Then

606
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I heard heavy footfalls in the woods from that same direction.

607
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>There were definitely more than one of them. To say

608
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.679
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't terrified would be a bold faced lie. I

609
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 1>knew I had to get out of there. I was

610
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 1>alone and unarmed. The nearest house was over half a

611
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>mile away, on the other side of the valley and

612
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>flanked by thick trees. I knew the elderly couple who

613
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>lived there. They were nice people, but they wouldn't have

614
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>been able to hear me even if they were outside,

615
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>which they rarely were. My house was over three quarters

616
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>of a mile away, and my mom and siblings had

617
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>been inside watching TV when I left. At that moment,

618
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 1>I forgot all about my girlfriend. Survival was my priority.

619
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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to run, but I remembered what my uncles

620
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.559
<v Speaker 1>had told me about predators. Never turn your back on them,

621
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 1>and running will kick in their instinct to chase. Fear

622
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.519
<v Speaker 1>turned into anger as I picked up as many rocks

623
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>as I could find and started throwing them back towards

624
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the woods as fast as I could. I at least

625
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>a string of obscenities and foul language as I did,

626
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 1>all the while moving backwards a few dozen paces at

627
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 1>a time. Years later, during my time in the military,

628
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 1>I learned to call that a tactical retreat. More rocks

629
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 1>are being thrown back at me now, and from two

630
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>different directions. I switched targets back and forth as I

631
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 1>slowly made my way back down the valley. Locked in

632
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:46.639
<v Speaker 1>combat with an unseen enemy, I was out numbered and

633
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.599
<v Speaker 1>out gun but I kept throwing and moving and cussing

634
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and cursing. I doubted the cussing helped me, but it

635
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>made me feel braver. It was probably only five minutes

636
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>before I felt the hill under my feet, but it

637
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Speaker 1>felt like hours. That meant I was closer to the

638
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>relative safety of home, and by now those creatures had

639
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>stopped throwing rocks at me. My accuracy had dropped off

640
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>dramatically by then, anyway, and I scanned the woods once

641
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:20.119
<v Speaker 1>more for movement and listened for sounds. I didn't see

642
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 1>or hear anything, and exhausted and sweating like i'd run

643
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a marathon, I took off my coat and stood there

644
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 1>for another five minutes before I felt it was safe

645
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.519
<v Speaker 1>enough to turn and high tailor at home. I didn't

646
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.800
<v Speaker 1>tell my mother and siblings what had happened. I didn't

647
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>want to scare them. The next day I told one

648
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:43.760
<v Speaker 1>of my uncles, who brought his shotgun over and slipped

649
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>down into the valley with me to retrace my steps.

650
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.639
<v Speaker 1>I showed him the tracks in the snow. There were

651
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.840
<v Speaker 1>huge gouges in the hard dirt where the rocks and landed.

652
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>We walked into the woodline where I had seen the

653
00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:00.760
<v Speaker 1>one running. That's where I compared the s and height

654
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 1>of the trees to the spot where I saw the

655
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 1>shoulder and the arm. This thing must have been massive,

656
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 1>but we didn't find any tracks there. We left the area,

657
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 1>but not before I noticed that my uncle was being

658
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>unusually quiet. After we got back to the house and

659
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 1>well away from my mom, he told me that he'd

660
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:27.159
<v Speaker 1>had a strange experience there many years before. My eldest

661
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 1>uncle served in Vietnam. He's a quiet man who rarely

662
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 1>shows his emotions or gets upset. When he came home

663
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.119
<v Speaker 1>from the war, he couldn't wait to get back into

664
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:41.599
<v Speaker 1>his beloved woods where he could hunt and fish. And

665
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>then he finally got the chance. It was a bittersweet experience.

666
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:51.679
<v Speaker 1>It isn't an easy transition from life of daily combat

667
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 1>back to a peaceful civilian existence. The woods of Kentucky

668
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>looked nothing like the jungles of Southeast Asia, but the

669
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 1>impressive feeling of the dense vegetation and the limited visibility

670
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>are similar. It took him quite a while to get

671
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.840
<v Speaker 1>over the nagging fear of someone waiting behind every bush

672
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>to kill him. Slowly he worked his way back to

673
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 1>his favorite fishing spots, and once he was comfortable, he

674
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>began to hunt again. One day, he was out hunting

675
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.039
<v Speaker 1>squirrels alone with his twenty two rifle. He was also

676
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:31.119
<v Speaker 1>carrying a revolver in his hip holster. He walked for

677
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>hours and saw a few squirrels that they were too

678
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>small to trouble with. When he decided to take a break,

679
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 1>he sat down under a large tree on top of

680
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 1>a heavily wooded ridgeline. From there, he had a clear

681
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>view down into the nearby holler. He'd been sitting there

682
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:53.519
<v Speaker 1>for about ten minutes when he saw movement below. He

683
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:56.840
<v Speaker 1>only saw bushes moving, but he suspected it was a deer.

684
00:40:57.719 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>It was too early for deer season, but knowing that

685
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:03.559
<v Speaker 1>paths might help him decide where to build a stand later,

686
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:08.760
<v Speaker 1>he decided to go down check it out. He got

687
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:11.199
<v Speaker 1>up and slowly made his way down to the holler.

688
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.639
<v Speaker 1>The trees and underbrush made it impossible to get a

689
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>clear view of whatever was moving around, but he found

690
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.400
<v Speaker 1>a little path that had made Whatever it was, he

691
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>knew it wasn't a deer. It looked almost like a

692
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:29.079
<v Speaker 1>small bulldozer had made the path, like six deer had

693
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 1>walked inside by side. He never seen them move that way,

694
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:36.599
<v Speaker 1>and plus the vegetation look like it had been smashed

695
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>aside and pulled out of the way. He didn't find

696
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>any tracks, but it was clear that something heavy had

697
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.599
<v Speaker 1>walked through here. He told me he should have left

698
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 1>right then and there, but he was young, and curiosity

699
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.119
<v Speaker 1>got the better of him. He moved forward, pondering what

700
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of critter could make such a path. Was it

701
00:41:56.280 --> 00:42:01.119
<v Speaker 1>a bear? No, Black bears aren't much whiter than a deer. Besides,

702
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>he'd never seen a bear in this part of the state.

703
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Cougars and mountain lions came to mind, but he quickly

704
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.760
<v Speaker 1>ruled them out as well. Suddenly there was a loud crash,

705
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.679
<v Speaker 1>like a tree breaking under a great strain, and it

706
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.039
<v Speaker 1>echoed across the holler. Then the woods grew early quiet.

707
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.119
<v Speaker 1>There were no birds chirping, no bees buzzing, no squirrels

708
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>or any other animals making any sounds. Alarmed, and reverting

709
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>back to his military training, he quickly veered off the

710
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>trail and hid down among the tall grass on his belly.

711
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:39.760
<v Speaker 1>He lay there in the silence for several minutes, wondering

712
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.079
<v Speaker 1>if his mind was playing tricks on him. He was

713
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:45.679
<v Speaker 1>about to move away when he heard a sound that

714
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 1>I was familiar with. First there was a thump several

715
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>yards away, and then another one a little closer. He

716
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>looked up over the tall grass and he saw a

717
00:42:56.400 --> 00:43:00.639
<v Speaker 1>rock coming in his direction. He crawled away, hoping that

718
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that would throw his attacker off his position, and it

719
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>almost worked. The next rock landed farther away, but it

720
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>was adjusting for his movement. He decided that this thing

721
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>must be a human. He couldn't think of anything else

722
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky that could throw rocks. With his rifle and pistol,

723
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 1>my uncle felt reasonably assured that he was safe, so

724
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.320
<v Speaker 1>he stood up and he called out. He doesn't remember

725
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.840
<v Speaker 1>what he said, but it was something to the effect

726
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of asking them not to throw rocks at him, but

727
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>no one answered. He then told them that he was armed,

728
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>and he expected to get an answer, or at least

729
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:44.599
<v Speaker 1>hear them leave, but he got neither. He began to

730
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>make his way out of there. Like me, He walked backwards,

731
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>with his eyes skinning for threats. He moved quickly. It

732
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:55.559
<v Speaker 1>was too late to worry about being quiet. Whatever it was,

733
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>it knew exactly where he was. Another rock hit the

734
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 1>ground his feet and bounced into his right leg. It

735
00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:07.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't hurt him, but it startled him greatly. He didn't

736
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.679
<v Speaker 1>lose his cool. He pulled his rifle up and scanned

737
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:14.519
<v Speaker 1>the area. In a quick three sixty. He was still

738
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 1>convinced it was people, so he threatened to shoot if

739
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.079
<v Speaker 1>another rock was thrown. Well, something moved in the bushes,

740
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>but he couldn't see what it was. It had to

741
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 1>be a human. He wasn't prepared to accept any other alternative.

742
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>He kept backing up and moving his head from side

743
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:37.599
<v Speaker 1>to side, and then an incredibly loud growl broke the

744
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.159
<v Speaker 1>silence and reverberated through his chest. He said he'd never

745
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 1>heard anything like it before or since. At this point,

746
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 1>my uncle knew two things. It was very close and

747
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:55.559
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. Human instinct kicked in. He fired into the bushes,

748
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>shifted position, chambered another round, and then he fired again.

749
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>He doubted he hid anything, but he was hoping to

750
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>scare it off. And then another rock flew at him.

751
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.079
<v Speaker 1>It landed a little further away than the last, but

752
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:14.079
<v Speaker 1>that was enough. He turned and bolted for a nearby

753
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>grove of trees. It didn't offer much shelter, but it

754
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 1>was better than nothing. He pulled at his pistol and

755
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>sat there for maybe an hour, waiting for another confrontation.

756
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>His nerves were on edge. He's not a religious man,

757
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 1>but he said. He did a lot of praying that day,

758
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>but nothing more happened, and soon the sounds of the

759
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>woods were turned to normal, as if nothing had ever happened.

760
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 1>He was feeling foolish, and he made his way back

761
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to the ridge and looked over the area one more time.

762
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.639
<v Speaker 1>He didn't see anything unusual and gladly went home empty handed.

763
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>He didn't tell anyone else about his experience for a

764
00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:00.400
<v Speaker 1>long time. He didn't think anyone would believe him. He

765
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 1>told his brother later, he told me. In a way,

766
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>my uncle and I bonded that day. We both had

767
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a strange experience that we couldn't explain. At least, he'd

768
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:15.199
<v Speaker 1>been armed with throwing rocks back at something that's throwing

769
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>rocks at me. Probably wasn't very smart, but it seemed

770
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 1>like my best option at the time. Fortunately, neither of

771
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>us has seen anything since. Now that I'm older and

772
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:31.519
<v Speaker 1>perhaps a bit wiser, I don't think that whatever was

773
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 1>throwing rocks at us was trying to hurt us. I

774
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.119
<v Speaker 1>think it was warning us to get out of the area.

775
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>At least that's my two cents worth. You can believe

776
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:46.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever you choose to believe. In the summer of nineteen

777
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 1>ninety four, my husband and I bought a brand new

778
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.719
<v Speaker 1>home and one of the many housing subdivisions being built

779
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:56.639
<v Speaker 1>in the Sacramento Valley during the nineteen nineties housing boom.

780
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 1>The area had originally been mostly farmland and floodplains, and

781
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:06.039
<v Speaker 1>there were dozens of subdivisions being built, and each subdivision

782
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>displayed beautifully decorated home plans. The homes were much more

783
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>affordable then, so we applied for a first time buyer

784
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:18.320
<v Speaker 1>loan and crossed our fingers. The loan process seemed to

785
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 1>take forever, but when we were approved, we got to

786
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:24.679
<v Speaker 1>pick out our very own flooring style and upgraded the

787
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 1>kitchen appliances, which was so nice since the apartment we

788
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:33.199
<v Speaker 1>lived in had no dishwasher or self cleaning oven. We

789
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.320
<v Speaker 1>moved our family, which consisted of the two of us,

790
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:39.079
<v Speaker 1>our four year old son, and our future baby girl,

791
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 1>who was due in mid August, and we were happy

792
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to have accomplished so much in a relatively short amount

793
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>of time. The house was on a dead end street

794
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>since the owner of the property behind the subdivision did

795
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 1>not want to sell any of his property, which would

796
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.159
<v Speaker 1>have allowed for the street to go through and join

797
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>up with other subdivisions. There was still a lot of

798
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:05.760
<v Speaker 1>open land and homes in various stages of construction, and

799
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 1>our neighbors had kids about the same age as our son,

800
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:12.280
<v Speaker 1>and he made new friends and all the kids played

801
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.079
<v Speaker 1>on the street since there was no traffic during the

802
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:20.000
<v Speaker 1>day while most people were at work. Unfortunately, my husband

803
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:23.119
<v Speaker 1>was not able to find a job in Sacramento right away,

804
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>so he would stay with his mom back in the

805
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Bay Area during the work week, and then he would

806
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 1>drive back to the valley to check in on us

807
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:34.400
<v Speaker 1>so we could do our grocery shopping and other errands.

808
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.519
<v Speaker 1>At that time, we only had one car and I

809
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:40.639
<v Speaker 1>was left stranded until he was back from the Bay Area.

810
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>It was a long commute, but my husband was so

811
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>happy to buy us the house that he was willing

812
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to commute with the hope that he would find a

813
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 1>job in the valley soon enough and stop commuting. It

814
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.320
<v Speaker 1>was a whole year before he was hired at one

815
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:59.079
<v Speaker 1>of the local auto body shops. When our daughter was born,

816
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>my husband was able to take a week off from

817
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 1>work to be with us and enjoy our new baby girl,

818
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and then he went back to work and to his

819
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>commute he would get up at three am and make

820
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:13.679
<v Speaker 1>his coffee and get his overnight bag and leave at

821
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.119
<v Speaker 1>three thirty am so he could be at work by

822
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>six thirty am. Back then, he was the bread winner,

823
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 1>so we really needed him to keep that job, even

824
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:26.440
<v Speaker 1>if it was one hundred miles away. I would normally

825
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:28.599
<v Speaker 1>get up with him and spend a few minutes with

826
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 1>him before he would be off. I would go back

827
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to bed and try to sleep before the baby would

828
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:38.199
<v Speaker 1>wake up to nurse. Around five thirty am. I would

829
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.639
<v Speaker 1>feed her in bed and lay her between me and

830
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:43.360
<v Speaker 1>our four year old son, and the three of us

831
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:47.000
<v Speaker 1>would snuggle and sleep until around eight thirty before we

832
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>started our day. We were so spoiled. On this Monday,

833
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:56.360
<v Speaker 1>after he left for his commute, I felt uneasy and

834
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:00.119
<v Speaker 1>I felt scared, but I didn't know why. I I

835
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<v Speaker 1>had to go back to our bedroom and lay down,

836
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<v Speaker 1>thinking that the baby would be up soon enough to nurse,

837
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.639
<v Speaker 1>so maybe it would be better just to lay back down.

838
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I fell asleep and I had a horrible nightmare. I

839
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.559
<v Speaker 1>dreamt that our sun was missing, and that we were

840
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>running to different streets looking for him and calling his name.

841
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:21.559
<v Speaker 1>I woke up suddenly and I was relieved that it

842
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:24.159
<v Speaker 1>was just a horrible dream. And my boy was fast

843
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.079
<v Speaker 1>asleep next to me, and the baby was still in

844
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 1>her bacinet next to the bed. I turned over on

845
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.559
<v Speaker 1>my side facing the bacinet, and I saw a bright

846
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.519
<v Speaker 1>light coming in between the window blinds, and thinking out loud,

847
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, is it morning already? The light was coming

848
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>in between the blinds and it was so bright, but

849
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the room looked dark. There was a

850
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.119
<v Speaker 1>bright light on the wall next to the window, and

851
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 1>I looked up to see where the light was coming from,

852
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and to my horror, just above the bacinet was an

853
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:03.679
<v Speaker 1>alien gray's face. It was just the head, no upper body, legs,

854
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>or arms. The head was dark in color, very round,

855
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>ending in a pointed chin, and there were small slits

856
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:15.079
<v Speaker 1>for his mouth and nostrils. But the eyes, the eyes

857
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:18.639
<v Speaker 1>were large and almond shape and very shiny black, and

858
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:21.199
<v Speaker 1>it had some sort of glass lamp on the top

859
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of its head. The light on the wall was coming

860
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.920
<v Speaker 1>from this lamp. The being was looking down at the

861
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.679
<v Speaker 1>baby in the basinette. Oh my god, I couldn't speak.

862
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 1>My heart started pounding so hard that I started trembling uncontrollably.

863
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.239
<v Speaker 1>It saw me, and it scowled at me when it

864
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:43.440
<v Speaker 1>realized I was looking at it, and it moved towards me,

865
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and I started screaming and swinging my arms and kicking,

866
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and I remember that I set out loud. Oh my god,

867
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:54.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to lose my mind. I felt that I

868
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:56.800
<v Speaker 1>could not take the fact that this creature was there,

869
00:51:57.239 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 1>and it was just there in the room above my

870
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:04.559
<v Speaker 1>baby bassinette in the house. It floated from its original

871
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:08.679
<v Speaker 1>position above the basinette to just above my face, and

872
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing this light blue fog build up in

873
00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>front of my face, and then, in a dreamlike manner,

874
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember a sound like pigeons mate, like a cooing sound.

875
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I remember feeling that whoever was talking to me was

876
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 1>stern and was telling me that it was for our

877
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>own good. When I woke up again, it was still

878
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 1>dark out, but it was around six am, and the

879
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>blankets were perfectly made around the bed like nothing had happened,

880
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:43.599
<v Speaker 1>and everything felt still. My son was asleep next to me,

881
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:46.599
<v Speaker 1>and the baby was in her basinette, and I got

882
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>out of bed and turned all the lights on in

883
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the room and the rest of the house, and I

884
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:53.679
<v Speaker 1>checked all the rooms in the house, and I checked

885
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:55.679
<v Speaker 1>the locks on the front door and the lock in

886
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 1>the backyard sliding glass door, and everything was just like

887
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:02.599
<v Speaker 1>I had left it. After my husband had left for work,

888
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.079
<v Speaker 1>I decided to stay up and just start my day.

889
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:09.880
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I got in the shower, even though that

890
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:13.400
<v Speaker 1>was not my usual time to shower. When I was

891
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.760
<v Speaker 1>washing my hair, there was a sore spot on the

892
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.599
<v Speaker 1>top of my head. There was no blood, no bump,

893
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 1>just very sore. I got dressed and I went to

894
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen and I had some coffee. While having my coffee,

895
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to make sense of all those events. Now.

896
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I remember the nightmare that I had woken up from

897
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and how relieved I had felt that it had just

898
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:38.400
<v Speaker 1>been a bad dream. But then that thing was there,

899
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't decide if it had been another bad

900
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:45.960
<v Speaker 1>dream or if that second part was real. It didn't

901
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.960
<v Speaker 1>make sense. But how can a bad dream as scary

902
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:53.800
<v Speaker 1>as that could be, was still making me afraid. My

903
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.559
<v Speaker 1>son was up at nine am, and I kept checking

904
00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:59.760
<v Speaker 1>in on the baby, and she kept sleeping. She should

905
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:02.960
<v Speaker 1>have been and up once to nurse, but no she wasn't.

906
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:05.519
<v Speaker 1>And I called my sister, and I told her about

907
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:08.360
<v Speaker 1>my weird dream, and I started crying because it seemed

908
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:11.159
<v Speaker 1>like it had been real, but I kept thinking that

909
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 1>it couldn't be real. I checked on the baby and

910
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 1>she had no fever, no rash, but she did not

911
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>wake up to nurse until two pm that afternoon, and

912
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 1>by then I was sore and engorged with milk. As

913
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:30.679
<v Speaker 1>the day progressed, I became anxious, and before it was evening,

914
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I called my sister asking if she could come over

915
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:36.239
<v Speaker 1>and pick us up. I didn't want to be there

916
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:40.360
<v Speaker 1>alone with the kids. When it was night again, she

917
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 1>came over and took us to her apartment. My sister

918
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:46.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure what to make of this whole thing. I

919
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 1>was just grateful that I didn't have to be alone

920
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:53.280
<v Speaker 1>in the house. We stayed in her kids room that night,

921
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:56.639
<v Speaker 1>and I remember feeling very scared because I didn't know

922
00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:59.800
<v Speaker 1>if it would happen again. But I put both kids

923
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 1>in me under the twin bed we were supposed to

924
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:07.199
<v Speaker 1>sleep on, but we slept under the bed. I called

925
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 1>my husband and told him about my bad dream, but

926
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:12.280
<v Speaker 1>he thought it was just stressed from being left alone

927
00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:14.440
<v Speaker 1>so many nights and taking care of the kids in

928
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the house. My husband picked us up from my sister's

929
00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:22.119
<v Speaker 1>place and drove us back to our house. That evening,

930
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I tried to go about my normal routine, making dinner,

931
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 1>bathing the kids before bed, and watching a movie. And

932
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:30.840
<v Speaker 1>then it was time for me and my husband to

933
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.199
<v Speaker 1>go to bed, so I put both kids in the

934
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 1>bed between us, and I put a large toy sword

935
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>next to me in the bed. I was terrified that

936
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:42.159
<v Speaker 1>it would come back, that I would wake up, and

937
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that face would be there looking back at me when

938
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I opened my eyes. I knew there was nothing I

939
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:50.400
<v Speaker 1>could do to protect us, and that made me more

940
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:55.119
<v Speaker 1>frightened than anything. My husband continued to commute for another

941
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.840
<v Speaker 1>six months, so I was still alone in the evening,

942
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:02.519
<v Speaker 1>and that was the worst part. For weeks, every night,

943
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I would stay up just until I could see daylight

944
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.599
<v Speaker 1>before I felt safe to fall asleep. I would leave

945
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>the TV on in the bedroom, lights on, and fight

946
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:14.760
<v Speaker 1>sleep until I would see the early sunlight peek through

947
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the windows. I didn't feel safe until around early spring,

948
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:23.119
<v Speaker 1>when the morning light starts just a bit earlier each morning.

949
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:27.159
<v Speaker 1>I went on like this for three years, every winter,

950
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and for years I was terrified to look out any

951
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:33.679
<v Speaker 1>window in the evenings. I would close all the blinds

952
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:35.800
<v Speaker 1>in the house at night and leave some lights on

953
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:39.599
<v Speaker 1>before going to bed. My husband would just tell me

954
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:42.079
<v Speaker 1>that it had been a bad dream, and after a

955
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.800
<v Speaker 1>few months he didn't like me to talk about it.

956
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:49.360
<v Speaker 1>My daughter was only three months old when this happened.

957
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.960
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't have any strange scars or ill effects from

958
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:57.239
<v Speaker 1>the experience. I no longer fear the winter nights, but

959
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:02.199
<v Speaker 1>I know that it was not a dream. Regarding the

960
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.800
<v Speaker 1>description of the creature I saw, in the book titled

961
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Operation Trojan Horse, there is a description of an et

962
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that has been described wearing some type of light attached

963
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:15.679
<v Speaker 1>to or on the top of its head,
