WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.040 Welcome another episode of our Interesting Times. Is my pleasure 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.000 to have Jay Dyer back on the show. Of course, 3 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:09.960 Jay is the proprietor of the recently resurrected Jays Analysis 4 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:13.759 Jays Analysis dot com. Right, so you kept that. 5 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:18.199 Yeah, everything the same, It's just it's a lot better now. 6 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:21.000 So okay, that's back up, and yes, i've it is good. 7 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:25.079 I'm accessing the site taking in some of the information there. 8 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:27.920 And of course you are the author of Esoteric Hollywood 9 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:31.280 Sex Calls and Symbols in Film and also they're soon 10 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:33.560 to be released as Esoteric Hollywood too. 11 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:39.320 Right, correct, early mid December early, don't have a don't 12 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:41.439 have an exact date yet, but as soon as I 13 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:42.520 get a date, everybody will know. 14 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:44.840 So this is just in time for Christmas? 15 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:45.280 Correct? 16 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:47.640 That was the same thing a couple of years ago, 17 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:50.079 wasn't it? Wasn't it around Christmas time the book came out? 18 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:51.520 Or am I mistaken it was? 19 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:55.200 Yeah, that's right, it was right before twenty seventeen. 20 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:55.880 Correct. 21 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:58.159 Now, if they order directly from your website, are you 22 00:00:58.200 --> 00:00:59.240 still doing the signing thing? 23 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:00.719 Can little bit? Correct? 24 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:03.280 Okay? Cool? Good look out for that then. Okay, so 25 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:07.079 we will look look very much. Look forward to that 26 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:10.599 in the coming month. I know I'll get my copy 27 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:15.760 at least of course, at jaysnowsis dot com you can subscribe. 28 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:18.159 It's four ninety five a month, sixty dollars a. 29 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:22.200 Year, it is. Yeah, and the I think the renovated site. 30 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:26.079 Has has helped the subscribers. So that's increased things that 31 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:31.000 are looking on the up and yeah, we've got, you know, 32 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:35.040 pretty substantial archive. The only thing that still isn't fixed 33 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:37.840 on the site is a lot of the old essays 34 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:39.480 that I wrote, which there was a lot of those. 35 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:44.319 Some of those are still broken links and kind of missing. 36 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:47.400 So I still have a lot of old stuff to fix, 37 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:51.680 which I do plan to do. But it's basically all 38 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:52.400 up and running. 39 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:55.439 So okay, that's good. Pretty much up and running. I 40 00:01:55.519 --> 00:02:00.400 guess you irritated somebody or something and yeh, yeah the AI, 41 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:03.040 I don't know the AI censor. I don't know who's 42 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:03.640 doing this. 43 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:07.359 Well, there were certain topics, yeah, that pressure was put 44 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:12.680 on WordPress to no longer be champions of free speech 45 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:13.800 for yeah. 46 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:16.280 So yeah, it seems like all across the board line 47 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:17.639 of these and yeah, don't. 48 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:19.759 I won't go too deep into it. But basically it 49 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:25.520 was an event that a recent event, a big event, 50 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:27.000 you know, one of those kinds. 51 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:29.479 Of oh yeah, even yeah, I'm not. 52 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:31.639 Allowed, You're not no longer allowed to post on that. 53 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:33.960 It's strange. It is strange because I had a couple 54 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.199 videos on those events where it was either talked about 55 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.879 or you know, just yes, and there are two three 56 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:43.360 years old and they were pulled. So there. I mean, 57 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:46.039 that is strange just just because that topic. I just 58 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:51.000 you know, it begs the question, it really, right. So anyway, 59 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:54.199 well tonight, you you recently did a couple of videos 60 00:02:55.000 --> 00:03:00.439 reviewing some books that you have read, and well recently 61 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:04.199 you did a video called cold War Propaganda and CIA's 62 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:07.479 doc kind of warfare program using churches, and you brought 63 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:09.840 it in this discussion. An article you sent me a 64 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:12.479 while back, and I looked at it briefly this afternoon 65 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.520 about some of the intrigues and manipulating divisions within the 66 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.840 Orthodox Church, particularly with Greece and the Ukraine, and this 67 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:24.039 is sort of perhaps geopolitical maneuvering against Russia. And then 68 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.199 I guess this's maybe this got you thinking about some 69 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:29.159 of this other material that you've been reading, particularly David 70 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:33.319 Wimhof's book The Catholic Church, and well, I'll let you 71 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:36.280 take it from there about the sort of manipulation this 72 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:39.960 divide and conquered within Religion's also manipulation within the churches, 73 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:45.879 the doctrinal corruption of these churches through the intelligence agency, agencies, magazines, media, 74 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:47.759 these things of the West. So go ahead, So what 75 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:48.439 do we got here? 76 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:51.879 Well, yeah, I think also to another article that came 77 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.039 out maybe a week or two ago, was written by 78 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:59.520 Neil Clark, who's a he writes for RT and Patrick 79 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.759 sent me a really good article he wrote about the 80 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:06.479 death of John Paul the First and the Cold War, 81 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:09.159 and it was it was really insightful. It was an 82 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:13.520 interesting angle that doesn't really fit into the normative, you know, 83 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:18.720 Cold War style narrative of the death of John Paul 84 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:23.480 that we usually hear and even Western conspiracy or into books. 85 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:23.720 You know. 86 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:26.519 I tended to paint that as some sort of KGB 87 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.920 Cold War plot, but as Neil Clark argues in his 88 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.519 his excellent RT op ed piece. 89 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:34.560 That really only benefited the West. 90 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:36.839 And I think if you look at it from that angle, 91 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:41.759 that article harmonizes very well with with Whatson Weimhow's book 92 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:45.120 and some of the arguments that I was making in 93 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:48.319 my talk and stuff that I was seeing and coming 94 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:50.879 across just in my own experience, you know, in the 95 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:55.439 world of Orthodoxy, and you know, this is a very 96 00:04:55.480 --> 00:05:00.240 difficult Harry subject in the twentieth century, particularly with the 97 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:04.240 the whole history of you know, the emigrats, the white 98 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:05.759 Russians being. 99 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:09.079 You know, given. 100 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:12.240 The solace in the West, you know, if they leave 101 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:16.120 the Bolsheviks, they were given and there were different periods 102 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:20.079 when the white Russians and others who fled the Bolsheviks 103 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:20.639 were allowed to. 104 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:21.199 Come to the West. 105 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:23.199 And so one of the problems that this created was 106 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:26.759 the idea that, oh, well, since the Bolsheviks are bad, 107 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:29.480 that must then mean that you know, the CIA and 108 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:31.879 m I six and these people that are inviting. 109 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.480 Russian refugees. I guess you could say to the West, 110 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:37.120 that must make them the good guys. 111 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:41.600 And so there's a similar story than between what happened 112 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:45.240 with my argument, or what I'm starting to see is 113 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:49.600 a similar pattern, a similar story between the subversion of 114 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:53.879 the Catholic Church in the twentieth century through the means 115 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.600 and methods of what Wimhoff describes and what we're seeing 116 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:01.319 in Orthodoxy as well. So certainly we agree that the 117 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:07.160 Cold War was was was on one level bad news, 118 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:11.040 but at a higher level dialectical manipulation. And certainly that 119 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:15.319 doesn't mean any of the countries that persecuted uh you know, 120 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:19.600 religious institutions were good, and there are plenty of martyrs, 121 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:21.120 plenty of people that were that were put to death 122 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:21.800 by communism. 123 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:24.680 So we're not I'm not at all trying to vindicate that. 124 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:29.120 But what we were sold was this story which which again, 125 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:33.480 you know, when you were giving your analysis of NATO 126 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.319 and the paper that I think you said you'd written 127 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:39.480 on NATO, you know, you came to see that the 128 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:43.800 the justifications of NATO really ran their course, and they didn't. 129 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:48.480 It no longer served its purpose, but yet it continued 130 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:52.800 to have this this offensive, this this uh forward moving 131 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:56.920 operation against Russia, and even after the Cold War, even 132 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:59.759 after when it's it supposedly ran its course, it's still 133 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:04.360 you know, it's still surrounding Russia's still making these moves. 134 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:08.120 And as many people have noticed it, even Michael Jones, 135 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:11.879 people who you know, don't have the same views as me, 136 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:14.560 people have independently kind of come to a lot of 137 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:17.439 the same conclusions that wait a minute, what we were 138 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:19.680 sold by these neocons in the Cold War, what we 139 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:21.680 were told by these people who ran in corporation, who's 140 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:25.800 essentially the masterminds of the Cold War, has really led 141 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:29.639 now to a situation where if you're not promoting Globo 142 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.720 tranny everywhere, right, you're an enemy of freedom. And so 143 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:37.480 when I was really getting deeper and deeper into gy 144 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:41.240 of politics background twenty twelve thirteen fourteen, I was watching 145 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:46.839 Color Revolutions and I was, you know, pretty pretty heavily 146 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.240 steeped in geopolitical issues by twenty fourteen when the coup 147 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:55.279 happened in the Ukraine. And I remember I just linked 148 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:58.240 up with Patrick and was writing for twenty first Century Wire, 149 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.040 and I was noticing, yeah, I think he had Marek 150 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:03.519 Hacker on. That was before actually New Market the Times, 151 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.800 right around the time I met Mark. But I noticed 152 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:07.680 that what he was, what Mark was saying about the 153 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:11.639 Ukraine really lined up with what we see with the 154 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:15.759 Color Revolutions and all the other countries where they've been promoted, 155 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:20.399 especially the you know, the former Eastern Bloc countries. And again, 156 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:22.959 you know, what do we get with these color revolutions. 157 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:27.360 What we get the introduction of all the toxicity of 158 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:32.480 Western countries, particularly of the US, the US Anglo American 159 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:37.840 Zio Empire, essentially spreading you know, trainees and porn and 160 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:42.159 disgusting new generacy into all these countries that ironically had 161 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:45.679 been in a way kind of guarded through through the 162 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:49.159 you know, the Eastern Bloc through communism in a weird way, 163 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:54.320 because they had they had opposed a lot of Western 164 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:57.240 so called freedoms. So there's just this really weird turn 165 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:01.519 about the homosexuality being such a key issue in so 166 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:02.279 called freedom. 167 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:03.759 And we know that, you know, you and I know, 168 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:05.000 we know that this comes out of like. 169 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.440 The Cold War, the culture of Congress, of the cultural freedom, 170 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:10.039 the idea of promoting the freedom and the arts and 171 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:13.360 all this nonsense, and that somehow that's connected with you know, 172 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:19.559 freedom and gender expression, freedom and sexual expression, supposedly. And 173 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.480 the reason I say all that is to say that 174 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:24.519 so when we look at the means of subversion of 175 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:29.879 the twentieth century through the big Oligarchic families, one need 176 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:32.279 to look no further than the authorized biography of the 177 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:36.919 rock Fillers by Colder and Horowitz, which I read extensively 178 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:38.960 about ten years ago, which was a big wake up 179 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:41.799 call for me because I started realizing, wait a minute, 180 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.039 you know this book is authorized. It's you know, you 181 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.279 got the big neocon Horowitz in there. He's writing from 182 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.039 the rock Fillers authorized papers and history, and he's talking 183 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:55.440 about how they funded the Acumenist movement for all these years, 184 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.399 not because they really cared about religion, but to use 185 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.240 it as a tool. And he talks about how, yeah, 186 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:04.679 they set up the Council on Formulations in America, you know, 187 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:10.200 in league with the Rhodes Millner around table groups. In 188 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:12.679 the UK, they set up the UN, They set up 189 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:18.159 all these institutions that promote you know, globalism, so called 190 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:22.480 free enterprise, so called free trade, and they're big promoters 191 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:25.440 of all of this JAPPYMML Berylson type stuff. So you 192 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:28.039 start noticing these patterns and then you realize that now 193 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:32.240 the subversion of American Protestantism. And I knew this because 194 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:36.360 even before I had any kind of exposure. 195 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:38.759 Or knowledge of geopolitics. 196 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:40.720 And I'm not not at all claiming to be an expert, 197 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:44.080 but even back when I was just interested in the 198 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:48.080 religious realm and in theology, I learned as a Protestant 199 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:52.600 that the Rockefellers and wealthy families had been putting a 200 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:57.679 lot of money into certain seminaries like Union Seminary, certain 201 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:01.240 schools like Chicago University, and that was because they had 202 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:05.600 an ideological bent. They really wanted to promote higher criticism, liberalism, 203 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:09.519 et cetera, et cetera. So what you noticed, what I 204 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.799 noticed back in my early twenties was that even some 205 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.919 of the traditional what are called Orthodox Presbyterians. There was 206 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.919 a famous guy named Jay Grisham Machen and he left 207 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.759 the mainline Presbyterian church I want to say in the twenties, 208 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:27.720 somewhere in there, but he wrote a book about liberalism, 209 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:31.679 and he pointed out some of this stuff in his famous, 210 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:34.399 somewhat famous Protestant book on liberalism, saying, look, it's these 211 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:36.799 big seminaries, it's it's the money that's going to these 212 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.639 seminaries from these foundations. And so that was kind of 213 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.000 my initial introduction to that idea. And then you started 214 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:45.000 I started realizing when I would meet, you know, people 215 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:49.519 from Lutheran churches or from Methodist churches, and most of 216 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:54.159 those mainline Protestant churches have kind of split off more 217 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:57.240 conservative versions of them, and you would meet the people 218 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:59.799 from those different conservatives split off groups, and they would 219 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.480 talk about, oh yeah, the seminaries got liberalized involved. So 220 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:04.759 you started hearing the same stories over and over and over, 221 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:08.159 and it just became evident. So that's what's going on here. 222 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:12.039 There's very powerful people. It's not just an organic thing 223 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:13.960 of oh, we're we're all just liberal. I mean, there 224 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.720 is a kind of cultural feedback loop there that does 225 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.639 happen with people growing up in a liberal society. But 226 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:25.000 there's also the top down, moneyed families putting certain people 227 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:30.720 into certain seminaries. Fosdick, if I recall, is the guy 228 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:35.159 who the Rockefellers put in place in the Presbyterian seminaries, 229 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.960 because I think one of the Rockfellers was Presbyterian or something, 230 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.600 and one of them was that the Daddy rock Filler's Baptist, 231 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:43.960 I think. 232 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.799 So essentially what they did was they created this idea 233 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.600 of the social Gospel. So a lot of people say, oh. 234 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.919 The Jesuits became commies and they taught the social Gospel. 235 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:55.039 That's not exactly right. 236 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:58.879 Actually, the Rockefellers came up with the social Gospel, they 237 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.759 promoted it in all of these seminaries, and it spread 238 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:04.399 to Catholicism in the same way it spread to all 239 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.840 the other churches. So the crux here is that there's 240 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:08.919 a pattern, and the pattern is the same for all 241 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:14.000 the churches, respective of what denomination you come from. And 242 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:16.840 that's why Wimpoff's book is so good is that this 243 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:21.480 is the hard, straight up documentation from how this was 244 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:24.320 done in the Catholic Church, and we're seeing the exact 245 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:25.399 same thing being done. 246 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:27.080 In the Orthodox Church basically. 247 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:30.080 So that's the crux of the whole point is that 248 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.080 what you saw on the in the Ukraine. To tie 249 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:34.639 this to the reason I brought up to in the 250 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:38.720 Ukraine is that in twenty fourteen when they annexed it, 251 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:40.559 you know, from Russia, and they basically set up the 252 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:45.559 CIA puppet there. It was geopolitics, it was money, it 253 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:47.000 was all that kind of stuff out of you know, 254 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:50.120 Cold War strategy or excuse me, World War two strategies, 255 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:53.360 because that was actually hitler strategy in the Ukraine was 256 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:55.679 to essentially set up its own little nation state there, 257 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.600 and that's why they've had the sort of neo fascist 258 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:04.120 bent there. But it was also religious. So in order 259 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:08.559 to wrest it from Russian influence. It's not just a 260 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:11.519 matter of politics. It's also a matter of religion, church 261 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.960 and state. So I was naive, you know, back in 262 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.039 twenty thirteen or fourteen, when I was just looking at 263 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.120 the geopolitical aspect of it, and I didn't think about 264 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.600 the fact that, well, they're going to do the exact 265 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:24.360 same thing in terms of the religious realm. 266 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:25.200 They're going to want to. 267 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.600 Remove the canonical Church that's under the Moscow patriarchy. They're 268 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:34.360 going to want to also wrest that from the control 269 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:38.440 of Moscow as well, because a sizeable Orthodox population there 270 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:42.039 obviously has to also be removed from not just political 271 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:43.919 but also religious influence from Moscow. 272 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:45.919 That's the main point I'm trying to make here. 273 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:51.679 So the way that relates to the US is basically 274 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:57.919 that the Moscow Patriarchate essentially severed communion with Patriarch Bartholemew, 275 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:02.720 who is the patriarch of Constantinople. He but Bartholemew has 276 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:06.039 been bad news for a long time. Actually, a sizable 277 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:09.919 portion of the church, the Orthodox world, has been very 278 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:12.759 leery of him. Many believe that he is in fact 279 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:17.840 a heretic, and that has only been made more and 280 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:22.240 more evident, especially in the last few months given the 281 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:30.639 situation in Ukraine, with Bartholomew essentially saying that the puppet 282 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:35.639 patriarch in the Ukraine named Filorette, who was basically installed 283 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:39.320 as a puppet, who is known as a puppet, he's 284 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:41.679 not canonical, nobody's ever thought he was canonical. 285 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:46.600 And suddenly Bartholomew essentially says, oh, he's the one there, 286 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:48.240 he's the good guy. We're going to go with that. 287 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.879 This made it evident to the entire world of Orthodoxy 288 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:55.440 that Bartholomew was a stooge of NATO and the CIA. 289 00:15:55.639 --> 00:16:00.039 And so now we know why Joe Biden was meeting 290 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:04.919 with Bartholomew, and and now we know why both Brotholomew 291 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:07.240 a couple of years ago was giving Joe Biden. 292 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.799 Awards involved lucrative gas. 293 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:13.360 And the gas do exactly now we know what and 294 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:15.039 uh so it was all that, and it was all 295 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:21.120 planning what just happened. So basically there's now uh a 296 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:25.559 giant rift is widening in the midst of the professing 297 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:30.600 or the orthodox world, to the degree now that even 298 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:35.279 Russian Orthodox Christians are those under the influence of the 299 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:38.519 Moscow patriarch, and essentially all the other Orthodox patriarchs agreed. 300 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:42.240 I don't think anybody has cited in any of the 301 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:45.879 major churches have sided with Bartholomew. The only people who've 302 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.960 decided who have sided with Bartholomew are the Greeks in America, 303 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:54.799 who are also directly under influence. So yeah, so that's 304 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:58.639 essentially what's going on. If you kind of know the basics, 305 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:00.840 it's not hard to figure it out. It's all pretty clear. 306 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.640 That's why John McCain was flying over there and meeting 307 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:08.799 with the puppet patriarch Filourette, who by the way, was 308 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.880 a Soviet defector. His name is Disinc Dasinco I think 309 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:16.039 is his name, and he defected to the West, and 310 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:20.880 magically he's he's the essentially the CI puppet there in 311 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:25.160 the Ukraine. So that's that's what's going on in simple terms. 312 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:30.799 And I actually talked about some of this stuff. I 313 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.519 was I wasn't fully aware of all the all the 314 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:35.160 geopolitical stuff, but I knew that some of these guys 315 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:38.880 are bad news. And I think really the last few 316 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.160 months has has been indicated, has vindicated my analysis of 317 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:42.920 the whole scenario. 318 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:47.319 So long story short, that's why this is all connected. 319 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:51.680 It's the and the subversion is happening because some of 320 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:54.160 my analyzes of these of these things over the last 321 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:57.759 few months and years made a lot of people mad. 322 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.920 They didn't know what they thought. I was being crazy conspiratorial, 323 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:03.759 and the reaction of certain people was to say, well, 324 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:07.559 there's no such thing as foundations and institutions influencing the church, 325 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:12.160 which is utterly preposterous, documented in multiple books. So I 326 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:16.599 pointed out the fact that well Fordham University has a 327 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:21.559 famous Eastern Orthodox studies institute there and they just received 328 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:26.680 a grant from some foundation in the UK to study 329 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:30.880 gay and lesbian issues and Orthodox churches. So on top 330 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:37.000 of that, Harvard has appointed social justice warrior trans people 331 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.920 to spy on the Orthodox world and to report who 332 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:43.079 are the radical right wing extremists and Orthodoxy on and 333 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:46.079 on on. So to say that this has nothing to 334 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:49.359 do with foundations of petition money is utterly absurd and ignorant. 335 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:51.799 In fact, some of the people who claim this actually 336 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:57.559 retweet the people from the Foundations for him, namely this 337 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:01.680 mister demopopolist I think his name is George Demicopolis, who 338 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:04.240 is the head of Fordham's Eastern Studies department. 339 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:07.359 Uh. Yeah, so that's that's what's going on. And to 340 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:08.359 think that this has. 341 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:10.559 No connection to you know, the CIA and that kind 342 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:13.519 of stuff, it would be very naive. So that's essentially 343 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:15.640 the essence of what's going on here. 344 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.920 Very interesting, Yeah, because well Bartholomewill is over there in Constantinople, 345 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:23.240 you know, which is Turkey if I have my geography correct. 346 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:24.640 Right, it is correct. 347 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.039 Yeah, so it's a NATO country. He's also there's not 348 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:29.960 much of a of a of an Orthodox population there anymore, 349 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:34.480 so he's largely relying on the you know, diaspor and Greeks, 350 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:38.319 but also Western World Council Church ifim I understand, and 351 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:42.319 exact funding. So yeah, he has no independent base and 352 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:45.119 so he's being used. I also understood there's some sort 353 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:49.039 of intrigue regarding this reconstruction of an Orthodox church pre 354 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:54.279 Orthodox Church in Manhattan and the embezzlement of certain funds, 355 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:57.680 and the US government is backing off investigation, and this 356 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:00.240 just could be the the sort of the leverage they 357 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:02.599 have perhaps over some of these people. 358 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:05.039 Right, that was very likely. 359 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:10.519 But I've also been told Rummant Whisper intelligence is that 360 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:13.160 people in those circles are compromised. 361 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:17.720 Yeah, well that's again that's uh wouldn't be uh surprising. 362 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:21.559 It's powerful course yes, uh and obviously yeah, this is 363 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:24.440 a way that can put create a wedge to get 364 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:26.720 in there. And this is another way of tearing you 365 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:30.599 tearing Ukraine away from Russia and fully into Nata and 366 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.720 using using the church the same way perhaps the coldor 367 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.000 was used to uh suborn or manipulate the Catholic Church. 368 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:40.720 Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. 369 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:42.720 Of course. The book you're referring to by David Wemmoff 370 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:46.160 is John Courtney Murray Time Life in the American Proposition, 371 00:20:46.799 --> 00:20:49.880 How the CIA is Doctrinal Warfare program changed to Catholic 372 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:53.319 Church and essential but probably the most important books I've 373 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:56.720 ever read understanding the modern world that's going on. And 374 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:01.559 it's sort of fundamentally, at least fundamentally changes, but it 375 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:07.519 it answers certain questions about what was going on in 376 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:10.559 the nineteen sixties in the Catholic Church and what's happened 377 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:10.960 since then. 378 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:14.680 So right, and of course, you know, the deeper you 379 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.359 get into these kind of things, the less aware you 380 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:21.799 are of how everyone else is not aware of these things. 381 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:24.720 Yes, so that's it's. Yeah, you start talking about it, 382 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:25.920 no one is aware of it, and. 383 00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:27.720 They're like, what are you talking about? You sound insane? 384 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.640 And then you then you point out, well, hey, wait, 385 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.519 you know the government itself has actually investigated this, right, 386 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:35.400 And then you point out the Rice Committee. Yes, hey, 387 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:38.559 well do you think the Race Committee findings that was 388 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:41.599 only for that time period like that never happened beyond that, Oh, 389 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:44.240 we're going to quit now, or like gam Kaldrow, Well 390 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:46.279 you investigate us, so well, okay, we'll stop. 391 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:47.240 We're not gonna do that anymore. 392 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:50.279 Well, of course, yeah, that's one thing is I'm also 393 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:52.880 just started a book called I Will Be Done. This 394 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.640 is about the Rockefellers and missionary in Latin America, and 395 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:00.400 the tone is kind of lefty but still important in 396 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:02.640 the boot least. I haven't gotten too far in the book, 397 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:06.720 but it talks about fastic and the use of missionary 398 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:12.200 work and for securing the resources of you know, particularly oil, 399 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:16.920 but other natural resources of in Brazil and the Amazon 400 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:20.279 rainforests and these things, and using these missionary groups as 401 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:24.559