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Speaker 3: But without further ado.
Speaker 1: Let's let's get into this, Kirk, give me your quick
non spoilers thoughts of episode six for Skeleton Crew.
Speaker 2: Episode six of Skeleton Crew six of seven right or no? Eight?
This one's eight reviews right now? I know ten. Creature
Commandos is seven, Creature Comados is seven, okay, and then
this one's probably eight. That would surmise.
Speaker 3: Let me take a Creator nine.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say eight. Yeah, okay, so eight, so we're
getting close to the end. I'm I'm positive on the show.
I think for the most part though, it's not blowing
me away. I don't know. I don't want to sound
too just down and sad, but it's just I don't
think it's gonna hit that level of like, I don't know,
just blowing me away. And this says I tell everybody
to go watch the show because it's amazing, Like how
I say and or is because nobody fucking saw that show.
I guess numbers wise, but I just keep preaching to everyone.
I'm like, you have to watch and Or it's the
best written show ever Star Wars wise, but yeah for
Skeleton Crew, I'm not getting that. But I wouldn't like
put people off of it. Like I think they're doing
really good job at telling the story and like utilizing
our villains and like our threat level for the audience
level what the show is, Like, I think it does
a really good job across the board, and like, yeah,
I think it's doing a really good job across the
board on many different things, but just not like excelling
in any of those ways. But no, I like our
characters still not super hot on Whim, I'm hoping, I'm
hoping at the end, I'm really surprised and amazed by
this guy's growth. Maybe he'll maybe this will be the
character that who's that badass that you taught me about
last something March on row Mark And yeah, yeah, this
will be that's Whim probably in this new Star Wars
Cannon era. I don't know where he aligns timeline wise,
but I just found out about that guy and he's
pretty badass, but anyways not super hot on whim. I
liked some of our character moments in this I think
they're because of my name, the good and the bad.
I think that this episode had both the best and
the worst looking CGI throughout the whole show at two
different parts. In the early portions, I thought the CGI
was horrendous. It's always a hard task, at least from
my perspective, to get like like live action characters on
super bright like backs drop and not make it look
like they're just in front of a green screen. I
haven't really seen it done. I probably have done well,
but I just can't think of it right now at
the top of my head. So that was just really
egregious to me in those those couple of moments in
the early portion of the episode. However, at the end,
I was just I was frothing. I'm like, man, this
this looks beautiful right now, Like I really really dig
in what's going on right now? So yeah, no, I
I don't know, long witted way of saying the show's
good but not excelling in any ways for me, But
I don't know. I think since I've tuned my barometer
level of like what the show is actually going to
be about. You know, we're six episodes in now, getting
near the end. I'm I'm okay with what they're doing here.
They're not trying to overdo too much, so yeah, I
think it's a pretty good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did really enjoy this episode. Now, of course,
it just felt like it was just a bridge to
our our through our story. Didn't feel like there was
anything really in rap letting or anything super super crazy here.
Speaker 3: A little bit of development, but mostly this was just
acting as a.
Speaker 1: Bridge to continue in our storyline and continue our character's
path forward. There was some stuff I was really hoping
that we would get to see, but of course I
think they're saving it for later on, which that's fair.
Speaker 3: It's it is what it is. I would have loved
it though, because it kept me going all week to think, Oh,
this is gonna be the episode we get to see
something really really cool. But I digress.
Speaker 1: I think that, Yeah, some of the cgi was a
little bit standing out ish, but.
Speaker 2: In a weird way, a good way or bad way.
Speaker 1: A questionable bad way maybe. But there definitely was one
thing in particular that it was stop motion in this episode,
and it was just fantastic. I did not realize it
was stop motion untill after the fact that I was
watching some like behind the scenes and just thought, wow,
they I can't believe they did that.
Speaker 2: That tell me super cool.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm excited to highlight it and how they
designed it too.
Speaker 3: It's it's really cool.
Speaker 1: As the episode continued on, we got some other things
that were very very neat.
Speaker 3: I really liked it. And then yeah, just some more
some more world building.
Speaker 1: I guess I could say that I really do appreciate.
So I think this episode was It was a lot
of fun, and I'm excited to see where we're going
to go now with I guess the penultimate episode. So
it's seven next week, so there's some fun things to
explore still in this in this show, and you get
and of all the scenarios with Whim that I just hate, hate, hate,
I actually feel a little bit of a just something
really good in this episode with this character. I really
am happy with how they had him kind of grow
and bond with this other individual, and it just it
really stood out to me as a very good developing
moment for this character, a key developmental moment.
Speaker 3: I really really liked it.
Speaker 1: And I'm happy that Wim had that because I feel
like that's just the thing that has just been not
working for me. It's just that I need something to
latch onto this character instead of just him being so
annoying and then being in a dangerous place and he's
like fake pretend lightsaber swinging like would you, and just
I need him to have a little bit of a
hero mode moment and they gave it to him, and
I'm so very thankful that they had him do something
in this episode that really felt humbling and just honest
and him just trying to really do the right thing.
Speaker 3: Really really liked that.
Speaker 1: It felt like he was really kind of slipping out
of his circle and growing up a little bit.
Speaker 3: So that was good. What else was I gonna say?
I don't know. I lost it, but that is okay.
I don't think I have anything else. Non spoilers.
Speaker 2: Bryce Dylls Howard directed this episode. Is She That's her
first one of the show. I feel like I don't
always super hyper focus on the credits, but you know,
when you see the big B d H show up
on screen, just her name. I didn't mean that in
any weird way, but I don't know, it just stands
out John.
Speaker 1: Watts, David, David, Daniel, and Daniel Jake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bryce stalls.
Speaker 2: So this is her first one, all different, David's all
different Daniels.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: Lee is doing the next one, and then John closes
us out on the finale Johnny Boy.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Cool? Yeah, I know, I was just I just saw that.
And then of course you know.
Speaker 1: She's definitely had her hand on Yeah, Jassic World, a
few Star Wars shows so far being in the director's chair.
Speaker 3: So I like that she got to have her hand
on this as well. I think that's that's cool. I
like this. He's doing a lot more directing. Yeah, I
got nothing else to ad on spoilers.
Speaker 2: If you want to get into it, take me to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're gonna take our first ad break and
then we'll be right back and we are back.
Speaker 3: So where do you want to start?
Speaker 2: Where do I want to start? Well, I mean I
was talking about the CGI early on, so I loved
the andean sequence with the ship and the big explosions
and everything was going on, Like because I was so
focused on, like the spotty CGI the early portions of
the episode, I was like looking for issues in that scene.
But again, they it's it's like a nighttime sequence, so
it's a lot easier to like blend all that stuff together.
I mean, it's probably just all CGI so that's why
it looks so good. But goddamn, I was. I was
thoroughly impressed by that exit that they did it. It
felt big movie magic type of quality of events that
were going on. How did you feel when they got
their new big ship.
Speaker 3: So when they shed their their skin? Yeah, metaphorically, Yeah, yeah,
I thought that was really cool. And I like that
that's kind of a contingency.
Speaker 1: It's a weird kind of contingency to have as on
your ship, but it's a pirate ship, and it's just
it's it's just quirky and weird and cool, and I
really do like it.
Speaker 2: I think that's why it like stood out so much,
because it just seemed original, right, versus like things that
we've seen before, like I know, as certain ships operate,
just because I've seen them operate the same way in
so many different fashions. But you know, that was a
cool sequence.
Speaker 3: It was cool.
Speaker 1: It was neat just to kind of show this this
ship just I imagine if it's taking heavy fire and damage
and whatnot, and in a fight, and then all of
a sudden it just sheds its outer shell and it's
just like this more sleeker, polished, more refined ship that
could just kind of blast off. It's like hiding in
plain sight almost too, because they're acting. It's acting like
a disky. I guess you could say, uh so, I
think there's some advantages to that, And I don't think
we've ever really seen that in Star Wars before shedding
its kind of out our shell. The closest thing we've
had is, I guess in Solo, a Star Wars story,
where the Malayan Falcon launches its escape pod or a
life raft or whatever, that centerpiece between the two front prongs,
it launches it into.
Speaker 3: Into the uh the Nebula.
Speaker 1: Or whatever the uh it was. They're doing the Kessel run.
That's the closest thing I think we've seen too, a
ship kind of breaking itself apart. But I thought it
was super cool, and I wasn't sure how the ship
was going to get out of the situation because this
like crawler mechanical thing was just eating all the metal
and just chewing them out.
Speaker 3: But the crew, the crew came together, the kids came together,
and they got out of there, and I really really
liked that. I thought that was a lot of.
Speaker 2: Fun claims, these claims, these on the New Ship. God,
that one wasn't so egregious for me. I feel like
it's been a while since I've been super annoyed from him,
and by a while, I mean I was annoyed by
him parts of this episode. I don't know, like I
say that like I'm shitting on him, but like I'm
not mad at the performance or anything. I think it
fits that character of just being an annoying little kid,
and annoying little kids are fucking annoying sometimes, and whim
hits that very well, So kudos to him. You're kind
of mentioning him earlier. I really like the sequence between
him and kb I feel like I got a lot
more out of the kbuh like version. I guess of
what happened in that sequence, It just I don't know,
Like this episode highlighted a lot of like things for
our captain that maybe she's just like completely blind to
or like not really yeah, she's she's just blind to
or doesn't have the the wherewithal. That's a pretty harsh
way to say that she's just not knowledgeable enough to
like think about how certain situations might be affecting other people.
KB highlights that how like she wants to just go
exploring all the time, but like I'm the fucking c
threep over here, like I need maintenance every every every
once in a while, or I'm just gonna be crushed up.
And I kind of like I roll because she's like
I just can't tell her, and it's like, okay, well,
come on as you can. But it's also like that's
a kid's perspective, right, like maybe they believe that they
can't because maybe they won't like them or they won't
be able to hang out. So that's where I almost
had to like stop myself internally of like oh this
is stupid, and I'm like, oh no, this actually makes
sense for what these characters are the same thing I
was just talking about with Whim and just some of
those I'll call them his quirks, his annoying his annoying quirks.
Like it it's okay, like it tracks, it fits with
a character, even though I might get annoyed with it
a little bit. And that's why, like I don't want
to judge the show and say it's like shit, because
it's not. It's just some of the stuff that's in here.
I'm just not really grasping onto that well. But I'm
getting off off rails now. But with the Captain and
I keep saying the captain because they can't even remember
her actual name, the little girl, thank you. Like her
and Neil like going off together with When they're climbing
up the ship, it's like climbing so easy, you just
put one hand in front of the other and just
keep going up. It's like, well, it's not for me,
like like at my little arms, like you got your
spider legs, I can't even reach between the rungs. I
kind of laughed at myself in that scene. I really
like Neil throughout the whole I feel like he's been
like just a rock solid character throughout the whole show
for me. Wow, maybe not in the early episode because
he doesn't really do much, but later on I feel
like I'm really just digging this character. And it was
just another sequence of like again Fern realizing that, like
maybe I can't just be expecting everyone to be doing
everything that I'm capable of because there's things that people
can do that I'm not capable of, Like it's just
like one of those everybody has their strengths and weaknesses
sort of thing. And that was kind of like the
the main theme amongst those characters and kind of having
their little like bond growth moment and by the end,
of course they're all happy with each other. But yeah,
I don't even know where I was going with that.
I just kind of broke down that, but yeah, it
was good thumbs up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: The whole dynamic of them not talking to each other
and communicating with each other about they're just their problems.
I think it fits, you know, kids just being kids.
They aren't really open to that kind of communication yet.
And I'm not speaking on behalf of all kids like
I know, but I'm just thinking from my own experience,
like there's certain things like you just don't want to
admit you want to come off as like yeah, I
can keep up, yeah, yea da YadA. But this is
where it really really worked for me that with WiM's character,
because Kab was going through some problems and her parts
needed to get tweaked and fixed and repaired otherwise she
was going to go into like shutdown mode, and Wim
just listens to her instructions, pulls through and humbly fixes
her and gets her back on her feet. Operational, and
I really really like this. I think this is a
great moment for Wim to kind of really come forward.
And when she like turns and says like, oh, thanks,
let's go, let's go get our friends Jedi or whatever,
and like Women just smiles to himself like yeah, like hell, yeah,
this is great. I'm really digging this. This is a
wonderful kind of growing up moment for for these characters
and for women, especially at the moment. I've been craving
and just really wanting from from Whim for a long time,
which I thought we were gonna get last week when
he pulls the lightsaber out, but he fucked that up.
Speaker 3: But here he finally came through. Uh So I'm happy.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I'm happy for you and Win. I'm
still not there fully with the Wim, but this is
definitely a better showcase for the character.
Speaker 3: The uh, the whole that whole.
Speaker 1: Part there with the trash crabs. That's the thing I
wanted to highlight that mentioned the non spoilers.
Speaker 3: That was all stop motion. The giant crab really wow,
they took.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull it up now just to see if
I can really notice.
Speaker 1: The building of its back and all the debris. So
you know what you can get like those small little
like kits, model kits and has a little part so
you can like spray paint and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yep, like they took or something. Yeah, yeah, they.
Speaker 1: Took that model kits for a bunch of Star Wars stuff,
and so they put in little Astromech droids. There's a
K two s SO droid in there, there's a Protocol
droid in there. And so they just took all these kits,
little minifigure kits and just like put them inside on
the on the back of this crap and then yeah,
it's all stop motion, just practical moving the crab around
for that scene, which was just great. It looked fantastic.
Speaker 2: Well, that must be why it looks so damn good.
That's crazy. I didn't well, I definitely didn't notice because
it just looks so good. But that's that's really cool.
I'm glad you told me that. I feel like this
just uplifts the scene so much more just knowing what went.
And you know, we on a recent afternoon we're talking
about some stop motion. I feel like we've all dabbled
a little. It's fucking hard. You know. I wasn't getting
paid like these Disney people are, but you know, I
still tip my hat to them. That looks awesome. Curious,
like what the why they chose to do that? Was
it just let's just be curative. It's cheaper than hiring
a CGI guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like it has to come down to someone
in a position of power saying, hey, let's do something
like this, because that feels more like OG Star Wars
to me.
Speaker 3: I think that that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Has a huge, a huge.
Speaker 1: Place in the Star Wars I guess the development and
the creativity of these these projects instead of just using
like the volume or using yea a green screen. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like like with Neil, right, Like Neil is
a like it's a puppet character, or not a puppet,
but like a mask as opposed to a CGI version.
We dabbled in that era of Star Wars, Star Wars
with the prequel where it's pretty much all animation, right,
So I like that they keep going back to that
because even in the news sequel series, like they it's
not even new anymore. Times just traveling way too fast now.
But the sequel series with Ray and everything, like, they
had more characters that weren't just CGI, but they also
had characters that were CGI. So it's kind of this
hybrid era that we're in. But I'm glad that they
are sticking to at least some of those authenticity things,
because yeah, I mean back in the day, it was
all just minifigures, right, like just they had the big
studio setup. It's wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's right. We got Joed Yep, which he
wasn't using the saber sadly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I was expecting him to be like fighting
Palpatine or something here with that. I guess, different era.
Speaker 3: But just eighty like spin.
Speaker 2: It suck too, because like the very start of the episode,
I can't remember now if it was like the end
of the flashback or like Ray the start, but you
could hear that lightsaber going off too, so of course
it just got me already like fuck, let's go, what's
this gonna mean? And it was a nice little character episode,
I guess, but not really what I was looking for,
So I was a little bit disappointed that that wasn't
touched upon at all. And it's like I would have
preferred he not even been in this episode, honestly, because
like I saw him, and I'm like, I know, you
fucking have that thing. Just use it, just pop off
with it, but probably won't beat tell the finale or
or something, or do you think what next episode because
he wasn't really in this episode a lot like he
was in here. But I feel like next next episode
probably more of a jawed centered episode.
Speaker 1: I think so, because now he's leading the pirates, right,
they're all like, right, we're gonna go together to your
at at and then they're holding his lightsaber hostage, so
he's he could still make a comeback, I guess with
and use it next episode. But I think that more
than likely we're gonna see him pull it out in
the finale and he's gonna use it on wolf Man
or dog Man there and Captain Silva and kill him.
Speaker 2: So yeah, just turn full evil start murdering innocents of people. Yeah,
probably not gonna happen. Yeah, I mean I don't really
have anything else to add. You kind of just covered
everything then happened there. I don't know. I was I
was wanting a lightsaber here in action, but didn't really occur.
I don't have a lot other things to about this episode,
unfortunately or fortunately.
Speaker 3: It's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 1: Some cool things you get, like the kids kind of
reaffirming realized like oh, the X Wings are actually the
good guys, which I love that whole sequence. That was
cool from their perspective on the ground looking up you
see these two pirate frigates like moving and the X
Wings like zipping around like like hitting them and destroying
one and all that. That was really really cool. I
like that, Yeah, could show that was some excitment. I'm
always down to see X Wings just flying around. There's
just oh, I know, you are super cool.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: There was some cool little things like as far as
Easter eggs go, like they're throwing the term billgrats around
a lot, which pulled me out a bit because it's
that one stuck out.
Speaker 2: It was like a like you know, like a nerve
herder or something where you're like, oh my god, like
what did I just hear the bill drat?
Speaker 3: Yeah that's a very piatey term.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally we got to look at the Pirates space station,
which I thought was interesting because there there's been there
right well that and yeah, like there's two interpretations for
this station, because I think the first place we went
was the asteroid field or whatever, and then this station itself.
Speaker 3: It looks similar to Mendelori.
Speaker 1: In season one, episode six, there is a space station
that looks very much.
Speaker 3: Like the same thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's called Randsar Malex Roost space Station or
something like that. Now, the other thing that this resembles
is in the Clone Wars, the Republic has these orbitable
orbital medical stations that they were using to treat their
wounded Clone troopers and such.
Speaker 3: And this kind of looks like it to a slight degree.
But this just feels like it's a lot smaller.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the same thing, but it just
has a similar concept.
Speaker 3: I think it's more in line.
Speaker 1: With that Mandalorians space station that we saw in the
first season.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yeah, I don't know. It looked a little familiar.
I didn't really remember it from Mandalorian. This was also
another moment though, where I thought the CGI just looked
horrible when it was like super bright and you had
all these characters just walking around. I kind of forgot
about that. I thought it was just when the the
children were involved. But because like when they find KB,
she gets like shot down the shoot it's very obvious
CGI bodies. Yeah, but I don't know splittont hairs else
we got here.
Speaker 1: We got a cool little sea shanty in there for
Captain Renaud and the Onyx Sender.
Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Uh. We got some cool other things like, as per
the Pirate Code, a right of last appear all where
you have the ability to just kind of talk before
you go through death by air lock, which is.
Speaker 2: Like the walkde big Pirate rules where it's like, well
there's code this, this Pirate Code rule tells me that
I can actually just become captain now. So it's like, ah,
it's the pirateway, like like it's just such a fucking
get out of jail free car. But anyways, yeah, oh no.
Speaker 3: That's that's pretty much it. That's all that I got.
So yeah, it's and closing. I think it was a
fun episode.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff that I really did enjoy
and I liked, and I thought that again, it's just
nothing too revealing but it's just pushing us forward closer
to our our end narrative.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see where this is going to go.
Speaker 1: Hopefully next week is more of a Jude Lost centric
episode and we get to see that saber, but I'm
not going to be holding my breath. I'll be expecting
it to be the finale that we get to see.
Speaker 3: Something like that with him pulling that out.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, the kids, like KB has the coordinates
for so they're probably gonna be going there too, And
I think we're gonna have the next episode and then
the finale kind of be a climactic closing off on
at at because we've got the pirates that are going there,
and we got the kids going there, and then we're
gonna probably see the parents following through with their plan
doing something and the supervisor will finally see who the
supervisor is what's going on there. So I think there's
a few mysteries that are going to kind of come
full circle here as we enter into the penultimate next week.
Speaker 2: I kind of forgot about the parents and Whim's terrible father.
I was gonna ask you, Oh, it's kind of really
fuzzy image. Who's this ball sack looking guy on the
left of Jod here.
Speaker 1: I don't know what their name is, but that is
a species that's actually in the last Jedi. If you
see above the two big round plumps there, there's a
head buried in between them.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, see, I thought again, it's a very fuzzy image,
So I apologize, but I thought, like above that there's
like a little circle. I thought that was a tiny
little head. It's an awful image, but it caught my
eye in the episode. So I had to do some
digging and ask you about it. Because I don't just
google things. I wait till we do a podcast together
and then I ask you about it. That's how I
do this something with Halo questions. So I'm waiting for
the next Halo show to come out, so I'm going
to ask you some more Halo stuff here that I
was gonna ask since we're killing time, we're not really
killing time. You found it, okay, Yeah, that's the last Jedi. Wow,
she looks like she belongs with the spaceman in bugs life.
Speaker 1: It was the name Hopper, right, yeah, Marlboro, Marlborough, Marlborough.
Speaker 2: Wow, funky looking design. Oh no, I killed my train
of thought was it just gonna ask you? I was
going to ask you.
Speaker 3: Oh no, it's hoppers.
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely not related to that at all. I got
distracted by the creature that you pulled up. Wow, Okay,
I apologize, and gentlemen, maybe next week we'll we'll remember
and then we'll go about that.
Speaker 3: Any closing thoughts or are we ready to send it?
Speaker 2: I have no closing thoughts other than something that I'm
trying to remember at the last second here, but it's
not working, so I think I'll just think I'll just
pass the baton, all right.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning into
this week's episode of Star Wars Skeleton Crew.
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week continuing on next week will
probably be on the Tuesday, I.
Speaker 3: Think, Or are you are you thinking? We'll probably go
back to our regular schedule format programming.
Speaker 2: I can't see why not, so yeah, I'll give you
a definite maybe right now. That's nice. That's why you
schedule thinks there, listeners.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So stay tuned and we'll see you in
the search bar.
Speaker 2: May the Force be with you, oh mans
Speaker 1: M hm.