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Speaker 1: How are you. What's up, Fred? How you doing? Man?
Speaker 1: Doing well? Doing well? What's up? Rodney? What's up? Eric Dickerson?
Speaker 1: How you doing? Brother? I'm good, brother, I'm good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was at that baseball game yesterday. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: there too.
Speaker 2: I was telling them, uh, you know after that second
Speaker 2: inning it when the Dodger Stadium just got quiet, or
Speaker 2: about six innings, man, it was like flat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I got you know, I do. I
Speaker 3: do give the fans credit, Dodger fans credit, man. Man,
Speaker 3: the Dodgers have a lot of fans. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: I see, I see why guys. You know, they may
Speaker 3: not see it when there are other teams when they
Speaker 3: come to the Dodgers. But they said, I've always wanted
Speaker 3: to play for the Dodgers. You know, just everything is
Speaker 3: just so first class over there. I mean, it really is.
Speaker 3: I mean something I hate to say it. I got
Speaker 3: to give them credit. It's almost like the Cowboys, you know,
Speaker 3: it really is. That's the same persona playing for a
Speaker 3: great organization. But it was a tough loss yesterday, but
Speaker 3: it was just it's just one game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about you a D, but I
Speaker 1: was just gonna follow him that real quick. Fred.
Speaker 4: I don't know about you D, but I went when
Speaker 4: I was playing. I always, I always when we went
Speaker 4: to other stadiums and stuff like that, I always enjoyed
Speaker 4: the ones that did it right, like the stadiums and
Speaker 4: the fans and the teams that did it right. So
Speaker 4: you like, man, this is this is a cool place
Speaker 4: to play. They got everything right, they got the music,
Speaker 4: the fans are great. And I was just looking at
Speaker 4: the like the teams like the Mets or whenever I
Speaker 4: go to a Dodger game, just looking at the other
Speaker 4: players and how they kind of look when they come
Speaker 4: out and are playing in front of the Dodger Stadium
Speaker 4: crowd and in Dodger Stadium. It's got to be that
Speaker 4: feeling like, man, this is this is this is cool.
Speaker 4: This is something I love to play here. You know,
Speaker 4: it's got to be. I mean, think about I think
Speaker 4: on the tiny signed you know he said that. You know,
Speaker 4: he didn't never say you never heard them saying thing
Speaker 4: about the Dodgers playing for the Dodgers when he was
Speaker 4: with the eight I mean the Angels. But when he
Speaker 4: said he said, you know, I always kind of want
Speaker 4: to play for the Dodgers, and that just goes to
Speaker 4: show and you right, right, and you go to different
Speaker 4: stadiums and play play different you know, play different teams.
Speaker 4: You look at them, you look at the fan base,
Speaker 4: because that's big for us. I mean, I don't forget
Speaker 4: when we played in Anaheim, Man, it was lots of times. Man,
Speaker 4: we'd have like thirty thousand fans of the game, I
Speaker 4: mean twenty It was frustrating. I mean sometimes I like
Speaker 4: playing on the road better because we on the road,
Speaker 4: we seem to sell out.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we sell out for the forty
Speaker 3: nine as we sent out the Cowboys. You know it's
Speaker 3: at the Eagles. But you know, similar the other Atlanta nah, Cincinnati, Nah,
Speaker 3: you know, just we just didn't.
Speaker 1: But would you be upset if you're a regular fan,
Speaker 1: do you think they're upset? You know, Hey, you take
Speaker 1: your you take your shot, and you pay your money
Speaker 1: and you go to the game, and you go to
Speaker 1: a game where the team is just crushed. Do you
Speaker 1: think of the back of your mind, you go, damn,
Speaker 1: I wasted that money.
Speaker 3: H Well, you know no, because you know it's no
Speaker 3: guarantee when you go to a game ference you're gonna win.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's always fun when you win it. I
Speaker 3: mean the team that wins and man, that was a
Speaker 3: great time. That was a great game. You know it
Speaker 3: was great because you won. I mean even if the
Speaker 3: game was closed and you lost, you still be like, man,
Speaker 3: and we just just did this.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I had a good time, but you
Speaker 3: know we lost. That's what it comes down to. I mean,
Speaker 3: yesterday I had a great time.
Speaker 1: I did. I want my friend Christopher Lake yo. YEA.
Speaker 3: Always invice men, my man George Lee from my heart.
Speaker 3: But but you know it's I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 3: When they hit that When they hit that first home
Speaker 3: run up Brazier, I'm like, what was it? He had
Speaker 3: two strikes and I think two balls up and then
Speaker 3: I know it's two and two or something like that.
Speaker 3: They had a home run. I'm like, oh, this ain't good.
Speaker 3: I just had a feeling. I said, this ain't good,
Speaker 3: you know. Then then came hit that the grand Slam.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, we're two strikes, Yeah, we're two strikes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I used to say it, I'm one of
Speaker 3: I'm saying I'm one of them got s out. This
Speaker 3: this old because think about it, when you got a
Speaker 3: six old lead. This was in baseball, six old lead,
Speaker 3: and like football, I was like twenty one nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's hard. It's hard to make up six runs in baseball.
Speaker 3: It's hard to make up twenty one points. You know
Speaker 3: I did playing in the NFA. It's just tell me
Speaker 3: to get twenty one points.
Speaker 1: Uh. Did you hear what Dave Roberts said about the
Speaker 1: Padre series? If you remember, and I want to get
Speaker 1: your take on this, guys. At one point he said,
Speaker 1: you know, it was unsettling when Manny Machado apparently threw
Speaker 1: a ball at him. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well now you know it came out. Well, it's not
Speaker 1: really what happened. I just did that. I said that
Speaker 1: to take the heat off the players and my guys
Speaker 1: and you know, focus on me so they can just
Speaker 1: go out and play. And he said that all right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, actually it was a pretty good tactic
Speaker 1: if you think about it, What do you think about
Speaker 1: a coach or a manager doing something like that. I
Speaker 1: think it was great.
Speaker 4: First off, you know, was Manny trying to really hit him? No,
Speaker 4: I don't think he was really trying to hit him.
Speaker 4: But was he trying to stir some stuff up? Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 4: he was trying to get in the Dodger's head.
Speaker 1: You don't do that.
Speaker 4: You don't throw the ball at the opposing team's dugout
Speaker 4: after warm ups.
Speaker 1: He just don't do that.
Speaker 4: And so yeah he was, he was trying to stir
Speaker 4: some stuff out. But Dave making it you know more
Speaker 4: than that. Yeah, because if you if you go back
Speaker 4: and watch Taoscar who was right there, was all fired up.
Speaker 4: He was like ready to go. Of course, Flaherty was
Speaker 4: ready to go since the time he faced him and
Speaker 4: struck him out.
Speaker 1: He was ready to go.
Speaker 4: And the whole team was ready to fight Nanny Machado
Speaker 4: at that point. So diffusing that sometimes you know, you
Speaker 4: want your team to to fight and have that kind
Speaker 4: of fight in here, but you don't want that to
Speaker 4: be the distraction of going out and playing baseball. You're
Speaker 4: so worried about fighting and being mad at the other
Speaker 4: team that you forget what you have to do. I
Speaker 4: remember Magic said that said in that one series against
Speaker 4: Boston when they closed lined old Boy closed lined.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin McHale got we said they were more concerned
Speaker 4: about fighting the Celtics than playing basketball, and that's exactly
Speaker 4: what the Celtics wanted and ended up losing that series.
Speaker 4: And so you can get caught up into that. So
Speaker 4: I thought it was smart by Dave Roberts by taking
Speaker 4: it and saying it was on me. I was unsettled
Speaker 4: by that and blah blah blah, and yeah, it was
Speaker 4: orderline intentional to take that off of the players just
Speaker 4: kind of going off at that point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's a good thing too.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny. He kind of made it up.
Speaker 3: That's the fun that's the funny thing. Like I really
Speaker 3: didn't happen, but I want to get my guys spoted.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like if you're in the field and
Speaker 3: a player walks to your huddle. You know, you're like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: what the hell you doing here? You know, something gonna
Speaker 3: something gonna go down, or guys come towards your sideline,
Speaker 3: stand in front of your sideline. You're like, hey, IMF,
Speaker 3: you know it ain't going down like this. I mean,
Speaker 3: you're thinking about it. We're gonna get at it. But
Speaker 3: football is different because you know, it's an aggressive sport
Speaker 3: you can get really aggressive bout that. You know, it's
Speaker 3: not like baseball. You kind of have to keep your
Speaker 3: composure in baseball. But I do like the idea that
Speaker 3: that just goes to show what kind of coach he is.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put this on myself and take it off
Speaker 3: the team, and everybody be talking about, you know, a
Speaker 3: child throwing the baseball at me, and that's what kind
Speaker 3: of everybody was doing.
Speaker 1: Wow, what do you throw it? In? Man? What what means?
Speaker 1: What happened when they don't like each other?
Speaker 4: So you know, yeah, I became the Chado and Dave
Speaker 4: Roberts and Roberts the Dodger players and Machado going at
Speaker 4: right right?
Speaker 1: You guys, ever have anybody walk into the wrong huddle,
Speaker 1: into one of your huddles talking?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. Greg Townsend was used to do that
Speaker 4: for the Raiders all the time. He used to get
Speaker 4: in and try to get in the huddle, or if
Speaker 4: we had a time out, he would try to be
Speaker 4: on our sidelines. I walk over for the time out.
Speaker 4: He tried to be right in there and trying to
Speaker 4: listen to what we were talking about. And I don't
Speaker 4: you know, there was there's a guy in Green Bay,
Speaker 4: because when I was in Detroit played him twice, Tim Harris,
Speaker 4: who had he had a run for a little bit,
Speaker 4: Tim Harris, Tom Harris, Oh my god. He used to
Speaker 4: talk talk during the play, after the play, between the play,
Speaker 4: and yeah, he would try to cross the line and
Speaker 4: get into your huddle and have conversations and all kinds
Speaker 4: of stuff, man, and yeah, just.
Speaker 1: To get under your skin, just to try to get
Speaker 1: under your skin.
Speaker 4: And a couple of times, yeah it worked for him
Speaker 4: where guys would get angry and you know, they start
Speaker 4: a little scuffle and all that kind of stuff, and that's.
Speaker 1: All he really wanted to do.
Speaker 4: But yeah, there are a little number of guys that
Speaker 4: love to just kind of get in here, try to
Speaker 4: get in your head that way.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean Tim Harrison.
Speaker 3: I remember him because I won't forget when he bodied
Speaker 3: slammed nicmahon.
Speaker 1: And separate his shoulder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we're playing them that we planned Bears the
Speaker 3: following week, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of related kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Late he Jimmy throw the ball and we're just kind
Speaker 3: of standing there. Yeah, and you say, oh, you're standing
Speaker 3: next to me. He just picked him up and and
Speaker 3: slammed him on his shoulder, separate his shoulder. I think
Speaker 3: he got like a five hundred dollar fine. I mean,
Speaker 3: can you imagine doing that now he be spending for
Speaker 3: the whole year. I mean, oh yeah, yeah. I meant
Speaker 3: you'd be surprised to staying on that field, man. I
Speaker 3: mean it'd be something like wowout that man. They talked
Speaker 3: about the kids, and they talked about all kinds of
Speaker 3: stuff in them huddles.
Speaker 4: Man. Now that stuff getting personal like that, it gets personally.
Speaker 1: I had.
Speaker 4: Never forget. I might get in trouble for saying this,
Speaker 4: but I never forget. We had a receiver in Detroit.
Speaker 4: You were just a cocky, cocky kid and and and
Speaker 4: just you know, love to talk mess And it.
Speaker 1: Was my early days.
Speaker 4: And we put in the run and shoot and he
Speaker 4: played for Mouse Davis back and heughs to play with
Speaker 4: Jim Kelly and that team when they were playing in
Speaker 4: the USFL and came over to us. But just very
Speaker 4: very cocky. And it was at a time where you know,
Speaker 4: you didn't you didn't see. There wasn't there was like
Speaker 4: it is today. Basically, there wasn't white corners, right, There
Speaker 4: was no such thing as white it was white safeties.
Speaker 4: You know, safeties is if you're a white player, you
Speaker 4: played safety and you didn't but you didn't play corner.
Speaker 4: It was usually reserved for for black players that played course.
Speaker 1: So it was a rarity that you saw a white
Speaker 1: guy playing corner.
Speaker 4: And he went in motioned a couple of times and
Speaker 4: I'm in the middle of my cadence and he would
Speaker 4: yell at me, going, Pete, pete, I.
Speaker 1: Got the white guy on me. I got the white
Speaker 1: guy on me. Oh my god. It took everything.
Speaker 4: I mean it was took everything from me not to laugh,
Speaker 4: but I'm sure everybody that heard it was.
Speaker 1: Like, going, what got the white guy?
Speaker 4: I mean, I can get I can get a lose,
Speaker 4: like the white guy got the.
Speaker 1: Wells. You remember that game, Rodney, What kind of game
Speaker 1: did that receiver have? He had a big day.
Speaker 4: I think yeah, because I think he had like four
Speaker 4: or five catches before that, and then he just kept
Speaker 4: eating him up and they kept putting them, putting the
Speaker 4: same guy on him. He was like, yeah, I got
Speaker 4: him again, I got him again. Let's go, and yeah,
Speaker 4: we fed him. You know what's funny around there is football.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I was talking to Roy Green the other night, and
Speaker 3: we were talking about receivers, you know, getting targets and
Speaker 3: how many catchers they have, and that's my said. I said,
Speaker 3: what's the most target you ever had in the football game?
Speaker 3: He said, most past ever call in the game. My
Speaker 3: whole crew was eight, and I think he had eight
Speaker 3: for like one ninety he said, Man, didn't we didn't
Speaker 3: get that moment. That's the more eight I was. That
Speaker 3: was crazy back in those days. Say, man, I know
Speaker 3: he said, I got if I got sixteen or seventeen passes, said,
Speaker 3: I had four hundred yards, right, And you think about it.
Speaker 3: They didn't get the ball like that. They didn't If
Speaker 3: if a receiver had a big day, he had to
Speaker 3: do it off of sometimes three or four catches, five
Speaker 3: at five at the most.
Speaker 1: I mean the game was like pretty good, you got
Speaker 1: a pretty good day, he called five. Yeah. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I saw the tight end.
Speaker 3: The tight end slash quarterback slash receiver that played against
Speaker 3: USC was number forty four.
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh my man, man, he got started on him.
Speaker 1: He did everything but kick field goals against.
Speaker 4: Oh god, he killed us, single handedly killed us.
Speaker 1: But you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4: And the thing is the misconception about that whole thing,
Speaker 4: and receivers still to this day still don't always get it.
Speaker 1: Is that you know, a play is.
Speaker 4: Designed and it's it's maybe designed one a certain way,
Speaker 4: but the coverage will dictate who becomes number one, who
Speaker 4: becomes number two, becomes the first target, the second target,
Speaker 4: the third target. So it's not always the case like
Speaker 4: they didn't throw me the ball or they didn't target
Speaker 4: me the golf. Sometimes the coverage will say, okay, this
Speaker 4: play was designed. If they played this coverage or played
Speaker 4: these two or three coverages, then yeah, you'll be the
Speaker 4: number one primary. But if they don't, then I got
Speaker 4: to go to the other side, right, And then they
Speaker 4: look at it as going they didn't target me in
Speaker 4: the first half, they didn't target anything, or maybe they're
Speaker 4: playing man to man, or we thought they were gonna
Speaker 4: play man and they didn't.
Speaker 1: They played zone.
Speaker 4: So all of a sudden, those those plays that we
Speaker 4: put in from me and the man don't work because
Speaker 4: they're playing zone. And all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 4: because receivers now are the prima donna's and the cocky
Speaker 4: guys of the team that they think that they're supposed
Speaker 4: to be targeted all the time. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 4: From a quarterback standpoint and offense standpoint, it it dictates.
Speaker 4: It's like, it's like Eric, if we design except when
Speaker 4: y'all had Dee de Bruck, because they gave you the
Speaker 4: ball no matter what. But if they if they say
Speaker 4: we're gonna get Eric, you know, thirty carries this game,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, the team says, you know what,
Speaker 4: we're not gonna let Eric beat us. We're gonna play
Speaker 4: a nine man front. But if you know, court, you
Speaker 4: got to check out of those plays and go, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're not gonna run against that. It's no game. We
Speaker 4: got to throw the ball against that. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: he thought he was gonna get thirty carries, he only
Speaker 4: gets fifteen or twelve. You know he's not gonna come
Speaker 4: back and go they didn't give me the ball. They
Speaker 4: told me they will giving ball twenty five times. Then
Speaker 4: get they're playing a nine man front ninety percent of
Speaker 4: the time. There's no way you can run on that.
Speaker 4: And so it's just sometimes it baffles me. How you know,
Speaker 4: you hear receivers talk about that after the game, I
Speaker 4: only got targeted this amount of time.
Speaker 1: I only got this. The game a lot of times
Speaker 1: dictates that I know.
Speaker 3: I mean, David, he'll text me last night and he said, man,
Speaker 3: it's just frustrating watching these players. He said, they're so soft.
Speaker 3: He said, they get hit, they can't take the hits.
Speaker 3: They always you know, they got a head injury right
Speaker 3: off the bat. I mean, think about it riding there, man,
Speaker 3: back in the day when we played, and I had
Speaker 3: to see saying back in the day, but it's just
Speaker 3: the truth.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you got hitting the head, so what
Speaker 1: get up? Shake it off.
Speaker 3: I mean, and I'm glad they're protecting the players, but
Speaker 3: I mean this day and age, it's almost like you
Speaker 3: can't hit them. If you hit them too hard. Well,
Speaker 3: we got a concussion. Oh that's it. He gonna be
Speaker 3: out for two weeks. I mean, and I know our
Speaker 3: equipment was real ragged. I was just looking at my
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send you out a picture. What I want
Speaker 3: to send you a picture? No, I haven't to run.
Speaker 3: I was in my story's closet here. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 3: my shoulder pass. I put my shoulder pass out with
Speaker 3: the neck roll. I mean, I'm gonna send you a
Speaker 3: picture of it. Man, they had had a double reinforce
Speaker 3: with the pads on the man, I'm like that the
Speaker 3: necro still look like it's still it's beat up looking.
Speaker 3: But no, that was a different football back then, like
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, like we said, and they hit, not
Speaker 3: that they hitting for real.
Speaker 1: Back in the game. You went back in the game.
Speaker 4: It was nothing, I mean seriously, And then again, we're
Speaker 4: not making light of concussion protocols and what you have
Speaker 4: to do today, because you do because you you know,
Speaker 4: you see guys later in life that are that are struggling.
Speaker 4: But it was a different mindset where you got hit
Speaker 4: in the head. It was just like part of the game.
Speaker 4: You got you got your belt run. It's what they
Speaker 4: called it, right, You got the belt run. You saw
Speaker 4: some stars a little bit, and a lot of times
Speaker 4: you know it would last, you know, five minutes or
Speaker 4: so and then you would feel all right to go
Speaker 4: back in or go play again.
Speaker 1: And that's what you did.
Speaker 4: There was there was not an immediate take you out
Speaker 4: of the game, right and and so it's it's just
Speaker 4: a different mindset when you watch the games nowadays and
Speaker 4: see you know, they got a medical tent for everything.
Speaker 1: You got a hangnail going into medical ten. Well, you
Speaker 1: know the issue is because people were so concerned about
Speaker 1: safety and the effects that players had after they retired,
Speaker 1: the game had to do something to clean up because
Speaker 1: football would have been at a crossroads. It really would have.
Speaker 1: I mean, in today's world, people are not going to
Speaker 1: stand there and watch people get basically sacrificed. And it's
Speaker 1: an unnatural act. If you're playing football, and you guys
Speaker 1: know I never played. Is it a natural act to
Speaker 1: run as fast as you can into a brick wall?
Speaker 1: Is that natural? It's an unnatural act? Correct?
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Ah, you said it perfectly. My mother hated football.
Speaker 3: I mean she hated it. She didn't want me to play.
Speaker 3: I told you before. She didn't want me to see that.
Speaker 3: She wouldn't back when I was younger. You have to
Speaker 3: have somebody to sign for you to play. So I
Speaker 3: asked her to say, I play seven great football. She said,
Speaker 3: I'm not signing for that crap area. She said no,
Speaker 3: and I said why. She said, son, it's an unnatural act.
Speaker 3: You'd be running into each other. She said, that's not natural. Eric,
Speaker 3: It's gonna cause you problems later.
Speaker 1: So make a long story. Shut up.
Speaker 3: And that's my godmother to sign next door, and she signed,
Speaker 3: I don't give her my mother side.
Speaker 1: She said. She signed the papers like, yeah, boy, she
Speaker 1: was she was mad, but she was hot. Yes, yes
Speaker 1: she was hot.
Speaker 3: But you're right, Fred, she said, fifty years ago. That
Speaker 3: is an unnatural act. Think about That's like, that's like
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take two cars and I'm the freeway. I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna run them into each other fast as we
Speaker 3: can go seventy miles an hour.
Speaker 1: Something bad gonna happen. I mean, it is, it's time
Speaker 1: to happen. And I just saw that picture of them
Speaker 1: pads Eric, Oh my god, in a path right man,
Speaker 1: that's what we played it back in the day, man,
Speaker 1: And I was just look and look, Quill. I didn't
Speaker 1: take hits on every play. You took hits on every play.
Speaker 4: And oh my god, oh my god, man, to deal
Speaker 4: with that with that kind of equipment is I mean, seriously.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 4: Uh, it's amazing the guys today have. They have no
Speaker 4: idea how good they got.
Speaker 1: They have no idea.
Speaker 3: I mean, I got to say even I think guys
Speaker 3: even played before us said the same thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, y'all got it, and I get it. I
Speaker 1: got it. I mean we thought it was we thought
Speaker 1: it was I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 3: I mean when I got to the Rams, I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: it's a junior high school.
Speaker 1: I mean, just the pro. I was tripping like this,
Speaker 1: the pro junior high school over here.
Speaker 4: That crazy though, I mean seriously, because I had the
Speaker 4: same thing when I got to the Lions. You know
Speaker 4: that came from from from sc where they you know,
Speaker 4: they made sure they had the top things of everything.
Speaker 4: They had the right, the latest or whatever. I'm sure
Speaker 4: asking you at them days had the best of everything too.
Speaker 4: And you get to a professional team thing and it's
Speaker 4: supposed to be better, Like, oh my god, they got
Speaker 4: to be passed from nineteen sixty right, we're doing right,
Speaker 4: the old suspension Redell helmets they had back. What are
Speaker 4: you doing? That's gonna be that's a concussion? Wait happened?
Speaker 4: And as well, it's like, wow.
Speaker 3: What about you, Fred, you have any kind of stuff?
Speaker 3: You know, you're such a great athlete.
Speaker 1: I know you know, Eric, I'm not going to relay
Speaker 1: the story again. You know, when I was going to
Speaker 1: be the kicker on the football team, but the helmet
Speaker 1: gave me ahead. The helm gave you a headache.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I full that before you even played. The
Speaker 4: helmet gave you a headache. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. It was too tight on my head.
Speaker 1: So I put on this giant helmet, like a giant helmet.
Speaker 1: I said, this one gets much better, and they said, no,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go swing all the way around your head.
Speaker 1: And I know, but this one, this one is much better.
Speaker 1: I'm more uncomfortable than this.
Speaker 3: Rattling at a football uniform period. Do you have any
Speaker 3: pictures of that? I would just love to see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, Eric, here's the thing. And you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you should just appreciate this that in my day,
Speaker 1: you know, when they wanted me to be the kicker,
Speaker 1: I could drill it from like twenty five yard? Did
Speaker 1: you kick fair? I couldn't, but I was more. I
Speaker 1: was more lou Groza. I wasn't the sidewinder. I was
Speaker 1: like two steps and bam, it's like straight one.
Speaker 4: Straight on you went straight on kicker and straight off.
Speaker 1: Yeah the toe, oh no, I could kick it because
Speaker 1: my legs were giant. I mean, look, I could strangle
Speaker 1: the people with my legs, that's how big. By looking
Speaker 1: at I could tell by looking at him. Right now, Listen, Eric,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Back in the day, if you hit my leg,
Speaker 1: if you if you shot me in the leg, if
Speaker 1: you shot me in the leg, my legs were so
Speaker 1: big the bullet would bounce off and kill you. That's
Speaker 1: how big my legs were back in the day. Come on,
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell Jr. That's what I wanted, Earl Campbell.
Speaker 3: Come on, Earl Campbell. So you had so you had
Speaker 3: big legs and a big heat.
Speaker 1: Eric, you understand it's called the big head syndrome. Get
Speaker 1: they call people. Listen, people with big heads always photographed
Speaker 1: better on television. If you have a little pea head,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. That's not true for it, that's not
Speaker 1: true because you got a pa head.
Speaker 3: I don't, man, I don't know, but I know I
Speaker 3: see some people on the team like nag dang, like
Speaker 3: a waterhead baby sitting up there. And I'm not taking
Speaker 3: fun of I mean, I knew some people.
Speaker 4: You know, baby, maybe you only knew relative.
Speaker 1: Relative. Man, one time, my mother it was like a
Speaker 1: little waterhead, boy.
Speaker 3: It was they brought the they brought the baby over
Speaker 3: and I and I was waiting for my mother's reaction
Speaker 3: because I knew how funny she was said, oh, let
Speaker 3: me bring the baby over here. Thought that baby had
Speaker 3: that baby had a big old head too, and it
Speaker 3: wasn't cute. And she said, oh a baby, because I
Speaker 3: know that's right all baby, that's it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: It was nothing but your uncle or your aunt. Look
Speaker 4: at you know that little boy, that Dickison boy or
Speaker 4: that people wait, wait, hold on that Biggison boy. But
Speaker 4: that that Pete boy. People got that water head?
Speaker 1: What what was the water You keep saying it and
Speaker 1: keep laughing. What if waterhead? You know?
Speaker 3: The water head baby, big old, gigantic head like like
Speaker 3: a jack in the box, like like the head don't
Speaker 3: fit the body, like.
Speaker 1: Like a jack of Lena. Like, Lord, it's bobbing back
Speaker 1: and won't sit us right. That boy will break his neck.
Speaker 1: Everybody listen, everybody grows into their head. That's not true.
Speaker 3: That's not a big it's some big head people right now,
Speaker 3: Yes there are yes.
Speaker 1: Wait, well you you talked about the one big head
Speaker 1: person that played in the NFL, and we looked up
Speaker 1: the picture and that that that guy had a giant head.
Speaker 1: But I I swear to God walking around on the street,
Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of big head people. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, well I'm walking looking at here. It's either.
Speaker 4: You walk around man your head your head out loudly,
Speaker 4: got your head, got your hit meat out.
Speaker 1: Well, given what you said, it should be fairly obvious. No,
Speaker 1: I mean when you walk around, I mean you don't
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 4: You just happen to come up on it, or you
Speaker 4: see it like on TV or whatever.
Speaker 1: You just see it's like, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: That can't got yeah right off the dead, you know,
Speaker 3: like that's the fact that you know, like like they
Speaker 3: turn one way and you ain't got the scream real wide,
Speaker 3: like what I scared? I mean, people know, some people
Speaker 3: listen to know we're talking about TV. Some of y'all
Speaker 3: got some water hit friends out there.
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Speaker 1: listening to this, it got me to thinking about babies,
Speaker 1: about babies and your first reaction to babies and what
Speaker 1: do you what do you say if maybe that baby
Speaker 1: isn't that cute? So we'll talk about that next.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's a beautiful Tuesday. And Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan,
Speaker 4: the Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson, And no offense.
Speaker 1: If you got a rather large head, it's open. You
Speaker 1: got a big brain.
Speaker 4: You got a big brain, and that's a that's a positive,
Speaker 4: so don't take it as a negative.
Speaker 1: Always. Well, I didn't even know it was an issue,
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, But I know there
Speaker 1: are people with big heads. If you look at the
Speaker 1: majority of people, you didn't know big head was an issue. No,
Speaker 1: I mean because if you look at the majority of
Speaker 1: people at work on TV, they do have big heads.
Speaker 1: I mean, Pat say, Jacks had just like the side
Speaker 1: of the moment. That's I just saw past Jack yesterday
Speaker 1: the baseball game.
Speaker 4: That's the game. Yeah, big head, yes or no giant No,
Speaker 4: I didn't notice the big head.
Speaker 1: It's the big head. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a big head with him. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: you say big head like my boy rest in peace
Speaker 3: with my boy.
Speaker 4: He had a big Heah. Yeah, I know about that.
Speaker 4: Large head is what they used to call him.
Speaker 1: His nickname was large head Man.
Speaker 4: You know, before all bad stuff happened, but it was
Speaker 4: it was you know, for long standing, it was in
Speaker 4: come large head and that everybody knew that was O J.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's it's like it's like it's like you got like
Speaker 3: to all right, jay lenod Len, We got a big hand,
Speaker 3: a big chin, has a big head, yeah, and a
Speaker 3: big chip in too, like like like moon like moon
Speaker 3: he like like like Jack in the box.
Speaker 1: What do you guys do? Because you brought this up earlier,
Speaker 1: and I'm just curious. You know, somebody brings over their
Speaker 1: new baby. Now, if you're the parent, your baby's the
Speaker 1: most beautiful baby in the world. Always yeah, always, of course.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if we're to be fair, and you know,
Speaker 1: just because the baby doesn't look that great when they're young,
Speaker 1: that's because you know, they've just made quite the journey
Speaker 1: and eventually everything goes into where it's opposed to. So
Speaker 1: have you ever been in a situation where somebody brought
Speaker 1: their baby over? You touched on one earlier with your mom, Eric,
Speaker 1: and they go here it is, here's the baby, and
Speaker 1: you look at the baby and you go, I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you do? Have you ever been in that situation? Well,
Speaker 1: I got to say this there for while we talk.
Speaker 1: Why are we making fun of babies anyway? But I
Speaker 1: get it for the yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean my brother, my half brother, all right, So
Speaker 3: when he was born and I'm only what five years
Speaker 3: older than him, five years older, and my uncles told
Speaker 3: me when they first say, my grandmother told him and
Speaker 3: my uncle told him, hey, you better go see that
Speaker 3: by that.
Speaker 1: He's a little ugly one. You don't think he's gonna
Speaker 1: make it. He looked like a little lizard. And he
Speaker 1: was he was, he was, he was.
Speaker 3: He was real skinny and he and he had a
Speaker 3: big head too. I didn't because I was little. He
Speaker 3: had a big head too. So yeah, people talk when
Speaker 3: they got their need to say, man, that's an ugly child.
Speaker 3: Look at the mom and the daddy. The mom ain't
Speaker 3: that bad look, but the dad looked just like the daddy,
Speaker 3: ugly like the dad with a big old ass head.
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't people talk, friend, thinking about roddy dunty.
Speaker 1: You know, people talking, they talk, They do talk. They
Speaker 1: do talk. That's why they wanted to give That's why
Speaker 1: they wanna give you that ugly woman. Look at the
Speaker 1: hell had an ugly baby.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and sometimes it's you know, it's the close
Speaker 4: people around you. Fred, they let you know about the
Speaker 4: you know, the head of your baby. You're you know
Speaker 4: something that was close to you or you know that Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know he came out with that big that big
Speaker 4: head boy. You know my metal son has the big head,
Speaker 4: the big head when he was born, robbing my man Robinson.
Speaker 4: Now he, like you said, he grew into it. So
Speaker 4: it's all proportion now. But I'll never forget. You know,
Speaker 4: we're close to close to Sam Jackson and he never
Speaker 4: he never pulls any punches and Sam samid Yeah that
Speaker 4: that that yeah, that big head peet boy.
Speaker 1: Because he had he had he had a large head.
Speaker 4: But he was born up until he was about five
Speaker 4: and then he grew into and grew into his head.
Speaker 4: So but but unfortunately not a lot of people grow
Speaker 4: into that head and they still stay with it with
Speaker 4: a large head.
Speaker 3: Hey, Sod asked this question. Yeah, this, so you know,
Speaker 3: I went at the hospital my first daughter was born
Speaker 3: because I was playing and my youngest daughter, Carris, she's nineteen,
Speaker 3: and I won't forget, well she was born, came out
Speaker 3: and I never seen a baby being born you know,
Speaker 3: come out to canal and my daughter came. I never
Speaker 3: forget it. I first told you, they told me she
Speaker 3: was gonna be a boy. So that was shocked.
Speaker 1: When she came out of girls. I'm shocked with that too.
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, yes,
Speaker 4: they told you. The doctors told you you who are
Speaker 4: gonna have a boy?
Speaker 1: Told me we're gonna have a boy. Aaron, because.
Speaker 3: Yep, because because I'm gonna tell you what, LETA tell
Speaker 3: you what. The nurse practitioner told the doctor, No, I
Speaker 3: think that's a girl. And the doctor got because you know,
Speaker 3: penns she got. She she told me, she said. The
Speaker 3: nurse practitioner said, no, that's a girl. He said, don't
Speaker 3: you ever undermine me. I know what I see. It's
Speaker 3: a boy, but it came out of girl. So she
Speaker 3: came out of girl. But the thing that tripped me
Speaker 3: out the most. I didn't have no clue. And I
Speaker 3: told some fathers that never had kids before. So if
Speaker 3: they ever had a kid, I've never had a kid,
Speaker 3: I said. So they come out to natural Way the canal,
Speaker 3: just know this here, they're gonna come out with a
Speaker 3: pointed head. And I'm gonna tell you, brother, I was
Speaker 3: tripped out. I had no clue. I mean I hadn't.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, one of my daughter came. I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, what's that?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 3: On the S and L When they got the pointy
Speaker 3: they had people the punty a, the cone heads, I'm like, job,
Speaker 3: have a conehead? They were making fun out of the
Speaker 3: whole time. I had no clue that you know that
Speaker 3: it goes back, you know, like it mos back down
Speaker 3: because her head was pointed as I don't look like
Speaker 3: a pear of me and coming out, so I didn't.
Speaker 1: I had no clue of that. I'm so surprised. They
Speaker 1: told you it was good boy and it was a
Speaker 1: girl kind and the doctor didn't want to admit it.
Speaker 1: The nurse was like, oh no, doc, that's a girl, said.
Speaker 3: The nurse was a girl. And then we came out
Speaker 3: of girl. I'm like a girl. I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 3: mean I was crazy. Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy.
Speaker 1: But they have an experience like that.
Speaker 5: Six seven, Well, before they call in, I'll say yes
Speaker 5: because I didn't say this out loud in the delivery room,
Speaker 5: but I said, the head always gonna look.
Speaker 1: Like that you see. Hey, hey, there you go, there
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 5: I've recent experienced with this, trust.
Speaker 4: Me yet, geranium is soft when it comes out, it's shafe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes out like that.
Speaker 5: I was calling up in all the emotion and everything.
Speaker 5: And then after that war off for about five ten
Speaker 5: minutes and I went to cut the umbilical cord. I
Speaker 5: was like, uh, I mean I got a big head, admittedly, sure,
Speaker 5: but that was different. I was not expecting that. It
Speaker 5: was like, oh, if you're worrying about his head, they
Speaker 5: brought it up themselves. I didn't say anything. You know,
Speaker 5: it'll flatten now, it'll correct itself. That happens all the
Speaker 5: time when they're coming out. But I was definitely a
Speaker 5: little freaked out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of things happened. My daughter, you know,
Speaker 4: had twins to begin with. My daughter came out second.
Speaker 4: My son was born two minutes before her, and my
Speaker 4: daughter came out, and she was when you talk about pale,
Speaker 4: almost all binal pale, and to the point where I
Speaker 4: was like, this is my baby. My baby, baby's pale, white,
Speaker 4: white white.
Speaker 1: I said, he gonna get some color.
Speaker 4: He said, yeah, yeah, you meanell sometimes, you know, and
Speaker 4: she has some she had Johnice is what a lot
Speaker 4: of babies have. But I was like, God, that baby
Speaker 4: was white, white, white. My daughter was white. I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: we got some discussion tappen.
Speaker 3: The same thing my daughter, my daughter. My daughter looked Asian,
Speaker 3: I mean, because they thought my dad. They asked Penny,
Speaker 3: they said, she said, I'm at the grocery store. She said,
Speaker 3: Carrie is little, like, she's like six months.
Speaker 1: Said. A guy came up and said, hey, so where
Speaker 1: did you buy her at? He said what?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she said, she said I was in line. She said,
Speaker 3: I'm in line. I said what what did you buy her?
Speaker 3: What did I buy her at?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what?
Speaker 3: Country says I didn't buy my daughter? Adop Yes, why
Speaker 3: did you buy her? And then she said, uh so yes,
Speaker 3: this man was that all these president so is the dad?
Speaker 1: Asians don't black? All right?
Speaker 4: Okay, they're taking us on this head, Fred, he took
Speaker 4: us off the road man, you took us off babies.
Speaker 1: You know what. Now that got me to thinking about
Speaker 1: another story you told at one point, Eric, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: to a new year, we haven't had a chance to
Speaker 1: revisit how important it is to be a certain color.
Speaker 1: Told us which one. I got a bunch of them.
Speaker 1: All right, good, we'll do that next.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's right, Yeah, all things football and body parts
Speaker 4: Rodney beat Fred Rogan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when Eric's son, Uh, it's always educational
Speaker 1: and that's important because we every day we need to
Speaker 1: learn something and I seem to remember just given the topic.
Speaker 1: And we'll get back to the Dodgers next hour. But
Speaker 1: given the topic we were on, Eric and Rodney, you
Speaker 1: talked about one of your kids came out and you
Speaker 1: thought she was in albino, Eric, color is very important,
Speaker 1: isn't it too? Too black people? Most definitely it is.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like like you can be right said,
Speaker 3: racially profiled by your own colors, because people. I had
Speaker 3: a high school girlfriend named was Ronda Larkin and she
Speaker 3: was from Louisiana. She was real light skinned, light skinned girl,
Speaker 3: and her her grandparents didn't didn't like me. I mean,
Speaker 3: Mike Maranby maybe dating that o black boy. You know,
Speaker 3: they have a bunch of little black babies. I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean that's just how it is back, you know, back,
Speaker 3: and I'm not I'm not. I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: like that, and now I'm sure it is. It never changes,
Speaker 3: trust me. But yeah, I mean you know you want
Speaker 3: you wanna, you wanna, Uh, it's not. It's not a
Speaker 3: light skinned, brown skin child. And you know, you know what,
Speaker 3: you know what the big thing is.
Speaker 1: It is the hair. It is how the hair looks.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, when when my daughter was born, the hair,
Speaker 3: the hair is big, you know, you know what that
Speaker 3: that kin kid and they say the nappy hair or
Speaker 3: whatever they happened that he got.
Speaker 4: That he or she got that good hair. That's what
Speaker 4: good hair, that good that good community. It's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: they got that good hair, that good hair. That's got
Speaker 4: good hair, good good hair.
Speaker 1: What was the good hair?
Speaker 3: Matter of fact? My my mother in law, Uh, well
Speaker 3: then has like this, you know, straight of soft hair,
Speaker 3: you know, hard and course and straight straight straight of course.
Speaker 3: M like my mother curls. Last when Carrie was born,
Speaker 3: well they got curls. You know, some babies are born
Speaker 3: no hair.
Speaker 1: Uh. Most black babies had to have a head full
Speaker 1: of the hair. To be honest with you. So when
Speaker 1: my child, my daughter was born, she say her mother asked,
Speaker 1: so what's up with the hair.
Speaker 3: She said, what you mean, what's up with the hair?
Speaker 3: She said, you know what the hair look like. I
Speaker 3: always tease my mother in law now you know, you know,
Speaker 3: you know she said, that's what you mean.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't say that. I said, yes, you did.
Speaker 1: You know you said it. My daughter has me she
Speaker 1: has nice hair, My son has nice I mean, look
Speaker 1: any kind of hair. Look. I can't even talk. I
Speaker 1: have no hair.
Speaker 3: So I would take a red wig right now if
Speaker 3: my hair grew. But uh, you know that's big, fred.
Speaker 1: I mean, hair and skin color is big in the
Speaker 1: black community, it is.
Speaker 3: I don't like I said, in our era, in the
Speaker 3: sixties and seventies and the eighties, that was big.
Speaker 1: Now what about now? I can't speak of the kids today.
Speaker 3: I don't know what's cool like I know they What
Speaker 3: gets me is is these dread lots and these dread lotes.
Speaker 1: They look like the Predator. Every time I see what
Speaker 1: these drill, I'm like, you look just like the predator.
Speaker 1: It looks ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Had these braids all down the back of your leg,
Speaker 3: you could you could die and come back a thousand
Speaker 3: years from now.
Speaker 1: Your hair would be that long. It's no way some
Speaker 1: of these people. You every think of getting hair transplanted
Speaker 1: or hair Yeah, yeah, you know your mind. Fred's hell no,
Speaker 1: absolutely not absolutely not. No, man, I ain't get my life.
Speaker 1: Ain't not crazy.
Speaker 3: I would look now with some hair plants. No, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm going in for landing. That's it's over.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm going in for a lantas bucking your
Speaker 3: seat better put your seat right up right, trade in.
Speaker 3: I'm going in for landing now.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. So my friends asks this question.
Speaker 3: One one, let me ask you so so so so
Speaker 3: so so in the white community, in the white community,
Speaker 3: what's big for y'all?
Speaker 1: I mean, what what's what's what's big for y'all?
Speaker 3: Is it to the height, uh, the hair, the complexion?
Speaker 3: I mean, what's what's big? I mean, what's your number
Speaker 3: one priority? Because black people it's you know, it's not time,
Speaker 3: it's a skin color.
Speaker 1: When they're born or just in life, just to just
Speaker 1: in life, you know. But you know when when you
Speaker 1: know say I don't know.
Speaker 4: Internal internal internal bickering or racist and like I only
Speaker 4: say racist, but just internal internal fights. Like like I said,
Speaker 4: in the black community, sometimes it's like, oh is he
Speaker 4: light skinned?
Speaker 1: Dark skin?
Speaker 4: It becomes an issue with some people or what kind
Speaker 4: of hair that they have is it is it coarse?
Speaker 4: Kinky or is it loose? And it's straight? You know,
Speaker 4: good hair, kind of bad hair thing that you know? What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What is it? And and and white communities like it
Speaker 1: is in the black community.
Speaker 3: But let me say one thing forre before you said that. Now,
Speaker 3: let me tell you when you're dark skinned, when you're
Speaker 3: dark skinned brother, dark skinned guys like light skinned sisters
Speaker 3: and light skinned girls you always have and the and
Speaker 3: the light skinned girls like the dark skinned guy. And
Speaker 3: I asked them, I said what I said, I just
Speaker 3: like that chocolate. I like said, I like that mochalo.
Speaker 1: I'm taking it down. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about its.
Speaker 4: Educationissity of black and white Asian Indian Hispanic culture right now.
Speaker 1: No, this is good. This is how we learn right.
Speaker 1: These are the kinds of things that aren't discussed and
Speaker 1: apparently mustn't must be disgusted. Is it big legs bread
Speaker 1: like you mentioned earlier? You know what. I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: trying to think about it.
Speaker 5: I don't know what it would be from the outside
Speaker 5: looking in. What seems to be an issue is the
Speaker 5: ginger issue. People who are red heads that's a big
Speaker 5: thing where and I've never understood it. I've never understood personally, like, oh,
Speaker 5: they're ginger. It's like, all right, they have we and
Speaker 5: people have red who are naturally red hits, natural redheads.
Speaker 1: And she's a natural red head, right, but I mean natural,
Speaker 1: she's a natural.
Speaker 5: And at some point in time, I'm sure she's probably
Speaker 5: been teased by someone, whether lighthearted or not, about whether
Speaker 5: like the fact that she's a ginger or what ever.
Speaker 1: And that's like a red hair. But I've never.
Speaker 4: Understood because they're they're rare, they're rare, they're very rare.
Speaker 4: And you see a rare, very very rare, especially women
Speaker 4: that woman.
Speaker 6: That it seems like a weird thing to tease somebody,
Speaker 6: you know, yeah, yeah, you know, I don't know, you
Speaker 6: know what, you know what, I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: Go go running, thank you, thank you. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: we go get kicked off the air and a bunch
Speaker 1: of races on the air. But oh my god, we
Speaker 1: gonna get kicked off. All right, Let's let's get back
Speaker 1: to the Dodgers. When we come back with the n
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