Speaker 1: This is Tommy Armor for the people, talking about the people,
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Speaker 4: You're the last group off off a split tea horseshoe
Speaker 4: on number ten and you do a happy Gillmore.
Speaker 3: What the hell's wrong with that?
Speaker 5: Well, it's a coffee episode before the people. This is
Speaker 5: a six thirty episode in the morning for the people.
Speaker 5: This is the earliest we've ever recorded one of these things,
Speaker 5: but it's even earlier for our guy, Tommy Armor.
Speaker 2: The third is in Vegas.
Speaker 5: Was at a hockey game all night last night and
Speaker 5: woke up at six o'clock to do for the people.
Speaker 5: So TA three joins FTP in his debut Welcome to
Speaker 5: the show, Ta three.
Speaker 1: It's nice to be here this morning, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're at a you're at a sire at a
Speaker 4: hockey game last night and then know, look, you sent
Speaker 4: us a picture that looked like you were pretty much
Speaker 4: sitting on the ice like you might have even been playing.
Speaker 3: That was at the front row. That had to be
Speaker 3: pretty close.
Speaker 1: No it's third row, oh okay, but pretty.
Speaker 4: Close enough to get enough to enough to get someone
Speaker 4: checked into the glass and fly over the edge, I guess.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's pretty good seed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a A friend of mine got them for me,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know we're close k that we didn't
Speaker 1: get any ice shavings on us from skates, but you know,
Speaker 1: you can definitely some guys faces pressed against the boards.
Speaker 5: You know, there's a combined forty four years of PGA
Speaker 5: tour experience between the three of us.
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty exceptional.
Speaker 5: There's in your in your forty years of playing competitive golf,
Speaker 5: like what what was your favorite week? I mean, we
Speaker 5: we've all heard about the the the longhorn that you
Speaker 5: tied to the tree in the front of the in
Speaker 5: the front of the house in Irving.
Speaker 2: That that's a legendary story in its own It.
Speaker 1: Wasn't a long it was a Kobe. It was a
Speaker 1: Kobe bull.
Speaker 5: Okay, can we can we hear about that? I mean,
Speaker 5: that's got to be an awesome story.
Speaker 1: Well, my friend that that catered the parties every year,
Speaker 1: Taichi Sakarai, who owns one of the great Japanese restaurants
Speaker 1: in the world called Teon He uh. He said he's
Speaker 1: going to bring bubba this year and that all that year.
Speaker 1: And I go Buba and he goes, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: it's an unusually big Kobe bulb because they don't they
Speaker 1: don't usually get that big. But it was big. And
Speaker 1: we put it in the driveway and put a little
Speaker 1: car around it. And so when people came up and said, well,
Speaker 1: this is the type of meat you'll be eating back
Speaker 1: on the grid, and I thought it was going to
Speaker 1: be like oh, but people loved it. I mean, we
Speaker 1: we're talking about it now.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, they love it.
Speaker 4: Especially I hear they love it because there was like
Speaker 4: naked chicks with sushi on them when they got inside.
Speaker 3: Is there is there any there any truth to that? Also?
Speaker 1: Well it was. It was called nake naked sushi. We
Speaker 1: did that two times. We did that the third year
Speaker 1: of the party, and we did it the last year
Speaker 1: of the party. The one year we had Miss Hawaiian,
Speaker 1: the current Miss Hawaiian Tropic and the Miss Maximware and
Speaker 1: we had them. Everybody's eating sushi off them.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a hell of a deal. I mean what
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you have to pay?
Speaker 5: What do you have to pay a Miss Hawaiian trip
Speaker 5: pick to just lay there for four hours and have
Speaker 5: like some raw tuna eating off of her?
Speaker 1: Not that much. It was four hundred dollars eat.
Speaker 5: Well, wow, that should be at everyday occur it's for
Speaker 5: you then, yeah, well not quite.
Speaker 4: I would have done it for three hundreds myself. I
Speaker 4: would have laid there for three hundred bucks. You think
Speaker 4: anybody would eat sushi off me for three hundred bucks?
Speaker 1: A lot of guys ate sushi that night.
Speaker 2: I don't really like sushi, but tonight I'm making you reception.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, all right, honey.
Speaker 4: I tried something new tonight. I've never had, never even
Speaker 4: had sushi before. Oh you're so brave. Yeah boom eating
Speaker 4: off Miss Hawaiian Tropics nipple there that would make you try.
Speaker 5: It wasn't your house there because when I played the
Speaker 5: Nelson and when Colleen played the Nelson, it was still
Speaker 5: at TPC lost Kalinas there.
Speaker 2: What's your house right by?
Speaker 5: The Range in like a cul de sac, because every
Speaker 5: time we went to the Range, I heard that story
Speaker 5: every year, but the same story about you, and I
Speaker 5: want to confront.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you're here to confirm.
Speaker 1: It for us. If you were hitting balls and you
Speaker 1: turned around, you know, you hit balls away from like
Speaker 1: the Fourth Seasons hotel, and if you turned around that
Speaker 1: first house right there on the corner, that was mine.
Speaker 2: I was there for twenty years. What a party house
Speaker 2: that was? Sheesh? Who stayed with you? Who would stay
Speaker 2: with you that week?
Speaker 1: Pap Perez usually was the only pro that Revers stayed
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 5: Peepee, he's been on the show. We love him is
Speaker 5: He's about the definition of the show.
Speaker 1: That guy.
Speaker 5: We need to have him back on. Actually, you two
Speaker 5: together would be quite something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pee Pee, he's one of a gang.
Speaker 3: Yeah to say the least.
Speaker 4: To say the least he is, but he yeah, he's
Speaker 4: He walked us through kind of his house. He's got
Speaker 4: you know, I know you're you're a fashion guy. You've
Speaker 4: got some nice style. He walked us through the house
Speaker 4: he was building. It was almost done with his Jordan collection.
Speaker 4: My god, I don't know if he had like a
Speaker 4: forty five hundred square foot closet just full of Jordan's
Speaker 4: or something like that.
Speaker 1: He's proud of his Jordan's.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Well you've got some great fashion too. I
Speaker 4: mean I was just going through the interwebs here, and
Speaker 4: I mean there's some there's some stuff that Pete and
Speaker 4: I probably couldn't pull off. But what does your wardrobe
Speaker 4: collection look like? I mean, are you a guy that
Speaker 4: wears something once or twice and it's done or are
Speaker 4: you just are you just you know, getting stuff left
Speaker 4: and right from from people.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, golf clothes actually will be
Speaker 1: coming out sub seventy with a golf line there pretty Stone,
Speaker 1: and about I think about two months we're launching a
Speaker 1: golf line with sub seventy. And but my fact, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a black guy, wear a lot of
Speaker 1: black and uh you know I kind of I like,
Speaker 1: I don't buy one particular design or anything. I just
Speaker 1: kind of pieces of everything and piece it all together
Speaker 1: and there you go.
Speaker 4: You've got the great hair too, for the like, my
Speaker 4: hair is my I mean, my mind's disappearing. Pedia's great
Speaker 4: visor hair. But if you got hair like that, I
Speaker 4: guess you don't have any choice but to wear the
Speaker 4: old school visor. You know.
Speaker 1: I I quit wearing it, but yeah, I loved advisor.
Speaker 1: And because a doctor said your scalp was just getting
Speaker 1: cooked with the visor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 1: It's My hair is not the thinning out, but it
Speaker 1: is thinning out compared to what it used to be
Speaker 1: just a little bit. So So actually I'm going to
Speaker 1: a dermatologist's appointment later today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the doctors, they put such a damper on the
Speaker 5: fashion situation. I used to rock advise her every day,
Speaker 5: like that's what I would wear, and then eventually the
Speaker 5: same thing. I went to the dermatologist and she looked
Speaker 5: at the middle of my head like up here and
Speaker 5: spread my hair aparts. It was like, oh, look at that.
Speaker 5: You've got pre cancer stuff up there. You got to
Speaker 5: start putting sunscreen in your hair. Like I'm not putting
Speaker 5: sunscreen in my hair.
Speaker 2: So then that was it. Now I just wear a hat.
Speaker 1: I put sunscreen like in my sight burns and stuff
Speaker 1: when I put it on. Sheesh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's worth it to look.
Speaker 1: Awesome, right, I mean, you know, you got to work
Speaker 1: at it. I go.
Speaker 4: So you were talking about and you know, the one
Speaker 4: of the most nostalgic irons in my lifetime. And you
Speaker 4: were talking about sub seventy there, because I know you
Speaker 4: have some club stuff going on with him, But the
Speaker 4: original Tommy Armor eight forty five so good, was like,
Speaker 4: oh God, Like, when I was a kid, I think Fred.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously a lot of people use them, but
Speaker 4: when I was a kid, I think Fred maybe Boom
Speaker 4: Boom was using him, and he was maybe number one
Speaker 4: at the time. But like, have you always been interested
Speaker 4: in Obviously it's kind of a nostalgic family deal for you,
Speaker 4: but have you always been interested in the club business
Speaker 4: and what kind of stuff you got going on with that?
Speaker 1: Right now? I've always kind of been interested in golf
Speaker 1: club equipment and stuff, and so even when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I mean we had growing up, we had
Speaker 1: a little garage at the house, and I had advice
Speaker 1: in there and would mess with clubs, regrip them and
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. Not even whip old woods.
Speaker 1: You know, I know how to do the whipping on them.
Speaker 1: So I've always had an interesting club. You know. I
Speaker 1: didn't really have much to do with the eight forty
Speaker 1: five design of it, but I was with Tommy amer
Speaker 1: Golf during that time, and it was definitely one of
Speaker 1: those clubs that sold a lot of sets and everybody
Speaker 1: loved eight forty fives and a lot of people used them,
Speaker 1: and you know, people still say, you know to this day,
Speaker 1: my first set of clubs were eight forty fives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they stood the test of time.
Speaker 5: Like there's a lot of iron from other manufacturers that
Speaker 5: have copied.
Speaker 2: Does you know all of.
Speaker 5: The cbs, all of the major company cbs kind of
Speaker 5: looked like the original eight forty Five's right, the title
Speaker 5: is CB, the Taylor MacB they all have a little
Speaker 5: bit of the eight forty five in them. It was
Speaker 5: kind of the standard bearer for the for the mid cavity,
Speaker 5: you know, from the muscle back.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. I mean it still looks good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it looks awesome.
Speaker 4: I remember they'd have the degrees on the clubs also,
Speaker 4: like you know, whatever whatever the degree was, you could
Speaker 4: see it. And I mean obviously everything is stronger lofted,
Speaker 4: and I saw I saw this stuff with sub seventy
Speaker 4: that you were doing more. It's kind of like a
Speaker 4: muscle back. I guess, you know, that's the style that
Speaker 4: you like or whatever. But tell tell us about the
Speaker 4: clubs that you got you got coming out.
Speaker 1: Well, uh, you know, we've we've got a set of
Speaker 1: irons out and it's basically it's a forged blade and
Speaker 1: we use et for carbon steel, which is the softest
Speaker 1: carbon you can use in making of irons, because if
Speaker 1: it's any software, it'll be too easy. And uh and
Speaker 1: Jason and I kind of during right in the covid
Speaker 1: era we design those and built them. And uh, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what it's. It's a damn good iron. And
Speaker 1: it looks good, it feels good, and it plays good.
Speaker 3: No, it looks it looks sweet. It looks sweet, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the feel is unbelievable in them. And we've got
Speaker 1: some tonguestending the longer irons to help you put a
Speaker 1: little down the bottom, get it up a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's you know, I mean they're and they're sexy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's important. That's important. I mean you want to
Speaker 5: play that. I think like all the better players. The
Speaker 5: sub seventy irons for y'all that haven't heard of sub
Speaker 5: seventy's what is a subsect.
Speaker 2: It's probably five or six years old. Sub seventy six years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: six years old, kind of blasted onto the scene.
Speaker 5: They've they've got a set of irons that was on
Speaker 5: the Golf Died Just hot list last year. The irons
Speaker 5: are kind of what they're known for, but they've they've
Speaker 5: branched into woods though, correct in the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: You know, Golf Buy loves our fairway wood and our
Speaker 1: eyebred and they're getting ready to love our driver here
Speaker 1: coming pretty soon. And the and the and my wedges
Speaker 1: are great and the other wedges that we have. It's
Speaker 1: a really good line of clubs that I'm starting to
Speaker 1: get it out there in the world of good players
Speaker 1: and stuff. And all my friends are when I first
Speaker 1: started doing they're like yeah, yeah, but the more and more,
Speaker 1: like like they played with me and hit them. They're
Speaker 1: really good golf clubs in there. And you know, they
Speaker 1: don't beat your pocketbook up either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. Pricing is great and they look great.
Speaker 4: Tell us tell us this, like you said, I mean,
Speaker 4: obviously you were playing for forty years and this year
Speaker 4: is the first year you're not playing you know, every
Speaker 4: single week full time.
Speaker 1: Last year, last year, last.
Speaker 3: Okay, last year last year.
Speaker 4: So as far as golf wise and working on your
Speaker 4: game practice whatever, what are what are you up to
Speaker 4: these days? Like like what's what's your what's your daily routine?
Speaker 4: Now you're trying to just get into some events. You
Speaker 4: just kind of laying low and enjoining playing forever.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not, I'm not really. I mean I might
Speaker 1: play one or two. I think I'm going to play
Speaker 1: the Senior French Open in Paris this year. I might
Speaker 1: am I playing Houston here in a few weeks, maybe
Speaker 1: this Senior US Open, But not really, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not looking to play in any turn. I play in
Speaker 1: the Discovery Land Company, who I've been a part of
Speaker 1: for twenty going on twenty three years. I played their
Speaker 1: member guests. Last week, I played in the Madison Club
Speaker 1: member guests. Those those are fun events for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's better than the Maker. And I've got the Pins
Speaker 1: and Fins coming up here in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: in Cabo and i play a lot of them with
Speaker 1: Will Melman, Mike Melman's son who runs Discovery Land Company.
Speaker 5: Well that's a hell of a schedule right there. I mean,
Speaker 5: that sounds better than a PGA tour schedule to me.
Speaker 1: Well, it's I don't know about better, but it's certainly different, a.
Speaker 4: Little more stress free, a little more stress free, I
Speaker 4: would say for the people listening. Yeah, Discovery Land Company,
Speaker 4: they have the like service and amenities like it's a joke,
Speaker 4: like what is Madison Madison Club? I mean they've there's
Speaker 4: margarita machines all over the place, right you can you
Speaker 4: can eat about twenty thousand calories and drink forty margaritas
Speaker 4: before he rounds.
Speaker 5: Over Taplas Sushi. That's just part of the part of
Speaker 5: the deal with the Discovery Club.
Speaker 1: Oh, I call it the five pound round.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good. So you're you're really involved at Discovery Properties.
Speaker 5: There's a rumor I live at Fortward, Texas here, and
Speaker 5: there is a rumor. Rumors correct the rumor's true. Okay,
Speaker 5: all right, See, I knew I could ask you that
Speaker 5: because you would know. Do you know much about it?
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about it, but I know
Speaker 1: that it's kind of southwest of Fort Worth. We acquired
Speaker 1: a bunch of property there and that's about all that's
Speaker 1: available at the moment, but there is, but we are
Speaker 1: doing a property there. I heard it's a Fazzio course
Speaker 1: that I can't confirm, but I understand it might be.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what's the rumor?
Speaker 3: What's the rumor? Pete A Discovery headed to for Worth
Speaker 3: Discovery property.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, there's a there's a apparently apparently allegedly they
Speaker 5: have acquired about one thousand acres is what I heard,
Speaker 5: southwest of town here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just north of aven Zada where JJ Henry's
Speaker 5: uh golf course community is being built right now. So
Speaker 5: that's we're going to have two exclusive kind of Henry's
Speaker 5: is more like a Vaccaro feel, boot ranch feel, and
Speaker 5: then just north of it, we.
Speaker 1: Did Vacaro as well, Discovery Land Company to Vicarol.
Speaker 5: So they're going to be very similar. These are these
Speaker 5: two properties are gonna be very similar, right next to
Speaker 5: each other, and it'll be interesting to kind of see
Speaker 5: how they compete with each other because Henry's will be
Speaker 5: done in two years and the Discover everyone, what's the
Speaker 5: timeline on that one?
Speaker 1: T A three? It won't be done in two years.
Speaker 5: Right, So, but there's rumen Fort Worth, Texas for two
Speaker 5: more clubs.
Speaker 1: I mean, we are starving for them down here. You know,
Speaker 1: two good golf courses will be great. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: like I've said about Texas, there's a lot of good golf,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of great golf.
Speaker 2: That's well put, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean I lived in Texas for thirty years,
Speaker 1: so I can say that with knowledge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your favorite track in Texas?
Speaker 1: H my favorite course in Texas? This is. I think
Speaker 1: Waterwood Nationals are pretty demanding golf course. I mean, I
Speaker 1: I you know, I like some other class I like
Speaker 1: Colonial a lot. I like I haven't played Maridough. I
Speaker 1: guess they say that's really a tough golf course. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty tough. TA three.
Speaker 4: Where's the Where's water Wood Nash or whatever? What's Where's
Speaker 4: where's the first course that you mentioned? Is that in
Speaker 4: Houston or somewhere.
Speaker 1: I made the tourist school there the first time I
Speaker 1: went in nineteen eighty one. Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never played there.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of it.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good, tough golf course.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm I'm excited you confirmed that Discovery property deal
Speaker 5: because that's that's kind of been the talk around Fort
Speaker 5: Worth as no one really knows if it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Or not.
Speaker 2: So it is going to happen, and it's going to
Speaker 2: be right next ton Zada.
Speaker 5: So all of our clubs in town, there's only like,
Speaker 5: what is it, five country clubs in Fort Worth for
Speaker 5: the thirteenth biggest city in the country, and we'll got
Speaker 5: five country clubs and they're all full. They all have
Speaker 5: like at least two year waiting lists, so there's easily
Speaker 5: room for at least one, possibly two more two more
Speaker 5: of these.
Speaker 1: What's the best club in Fort Worth?
Speaker 5: I mean, that's up for debate, the best club all around.
Speaker 5: I belong to Shady Oaks and I love Shady Oaks.
Speaker 5: I would I would say membership, golf course, food, amenities,
Speaker 5: family orientation, that Shady's the best.
Speaker 2: But you know, golf, golf course, golf course. I think
Speaker 2: Colonial probably has the best golf course, you know.
Speaker 3: I would They're blowing it up.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't join there because I don't think the membership
Speaker 5: is particularly awesome, but the golf course is great, you know.
Speaker 2: And then like Mira Vista had the great membership.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Colonial's doing a massive, massive redo like the day
Speaker 4: after the tournament ends this year, and then and then
Speaker 4: they're going to do it in twelve months and have
Speaker 4: it open for the tournament next year. They're spending thirty
Speaker 4: something million redoing, redoing, colonial gilt. I think Gil Gil Hans,
Speaker 4: how do you say it?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: I think he's his group's doing it.
Speaker 1: Then it should could be done pretty well because Gil
Speaker 1: knows what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: They just assessed members twenty four thousand dollars each over there,
Speaker 5: so a lot of them are leaving. But yeah, they're
Speaker 5: going through some changes that it's probably going to be good.
Speaker 5: I mean they're doing a gigantic redo of the facilities
Speaker 5: as well. I think it's close to one hundred million
Speaker 5: dollars the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Oh they're doing the clubhouse too, that's right. I forgot
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh so it's a complete it's a complete overall.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but one hundred million dollars, I mean, good lord,
Speaker 5: like cow, why do you need that much money?
Speaker 2: I don't understand that, But I'm alster, that's not my world.
Speaker 4: Well, well, dude, our course we're building. Well you guys
Speaker 4: redid that the one we're building here? Dude, stuff's gotten
Speaker 4: expensive to build. Man, we'll be done. We're in. I'm
Speaker 4: in Lubick. I'm in Luveick. We'll be done and we'll
Speaker 4: be done in two months. We're building Red Feather Golf
Speaker 4: Club right now. That's King Collins first private course. Huh,
Speaker 4: but it's what we'll be open July first. But dude,
Speaker 4: stuff is just expensive to build.
Speaker 3: Man. Sometimes redoing a course is more expensive if.
Speaker 4: You've got to redo irrigation and rip that up like
Speaker 4: colonial and they're under a twelve month timeframe, which is
Speaker 4: like they're probably working through the night a lot too
Speaker 4: to get it done in twelve months.
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, it's expensive.
Speaker 1: It's very expensive.
Speaker 3: It's good.
Speaker 4: Jason, Jason from seventies podcast, Brad Ralson just did his episode.
Speaker 4: Brad's the kind of CEO owner of the whole of
Speaker 4: the whole project here, so he just did Jason's check
Speaker 4: it out there. But dude, that's exciting man. That that's
Speaker 4: the best terrain in North Texas is southwest Fort Worth.
Speaker 4: That's bad Aster's two courses there. I mean, Mira Vista
Speaker 4: has good terrainley is it moving.
Speaker 2: It's more pasture land.
Speaker 5: The higher the higher portions are almost like prairie land
Speaker 5: where there's not many trees. But it's it's real wide open.
Speaker 5: You can see downtown Fort Worth from the high points.
Speaker 5: And then in the in the bottom areas, there's two
Speaker 5: hundred feet of elevation change over there, so there's there's
Speaker 5: a lot. And in the bottom of Bear Creek there's
Speaker 5: a there's a rolling creek that's it has like a
Speaker 5: fifty foot elevation change and it's it's always running, and
Speaker 5: it's it's covered up in hardwoods. So they're going to
Speaker 5: have a good mixture of hardwood holes and then open
Speaker 5: holes with both properties.
Speaker 4: So not to not to talk too much about the partying,
Speaker 4: but everybody likes to party a little. But you said
Speaker 4: during tournament weeks you were like all business, but when
Speaker 4: you went out like you went out with a purpose,
Speaker 4: like you know, you're whatever you were doing, you were
Speaker 4: driven to succeed at the highest level of.
Speaker 3: Whatever it was.
Speaker 4: But when you were when you were traveling all around
Speaker 4: playing full time, like who's who is your crew?
Speaker 3: On tour?
Speaker 4: You you mentioned Pat, you know, I know Pat's Pat's
Speaker 4: a little bit younger, But did you have a crew
Speaker 4: where you guys went out to dinner every night or
Speaker 4: hung out at home or whatever. Were you kind of
Speaker 4: just flying solo and just see what happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on a tour, you know, you don't. I mean
Speaker 1: you see the guys every day, you know, so you
Speaker 1: don't really hang out with them every night. So but
Speaker 1: I mean Cookie and I I mean we've been friends
Speaker 1: since I was about eight years old. I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time with him. I spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time with Andrew McGee. I spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: with Buddy Gardner over the years. And you know, my
Speaker 1: brother Caddy for me for a long for about twenty
Speaker 1: years altogether. So I mean it was a lot of
Speaker 1: time spent with them. But you know, I mean they're
Speaker 1: in turn. I mean you just I mean it's like
Speaker 1: dinner and bed and I mean you're up early. You know.
Speaker 1: I hardly even drink anymore, want in on blue moon,
Speaker 1: a blast of champagne or something. But part of drinking,
Speaker 1: don't really do it.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 4: I mean no, obviously obviously not not very healthy to
Speaker 4: drinking the drinking for you. But my favorite part is
Speaker 4: like you made up when you hosted your event, like
Speaker 4: when you hosted your party, you know in Dallas, like that,
Speaker 4: I mean, what did that costs? And I don't know
Speaker 4: when the last year is that you had it, But
Speaker 4: like you're hosting a tour party. Like there's plenty of
Speaker 4: guys that have events in their hometown and they'll have
Speaker 4: buddies over, maybe cater maybe have a barbecue. Obviously there
Speaker 4: isn't wag you beef tied up to the front to
Speaker 4: the front tree or naked sushi chicks. But what was
Speaker 4: your budget, like when you have a party like where
Speaker 4: you're like, should I better finish tied for third to
Speaker 4: pay for this party I'm having?
Speaker 3: What would you spend on those yearly parties?
Speaker 1: All the food was free.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: My friend he donated it all every year. I mean
Speaker 1: because they loved and Eddie is a golf junkie and
Speaker 1: we just and I still see him to this day
Speaker 1: a lot. When I go to Dallas, I go eatd
Speaker 1: his restaurant, so he did. All the food was great.
Speaker 1: I usually my biggest spend was all the lighting and
Speaker 1: all those special effects I did for the party. One year,
Speaker 1: I had the house like it looked like it was
Speaker 1: on the led lights, looked like the house was on fire,
Speaker 1: and we had smokers pokers coming all in the bushes
Speaker 1: around the house that looked like the house was on fire.
Speaker 1: And then there was we had go go dancers one
Speaker 1: year and we had lasers, you know, coming down the hole.
Speaker 1: I mean they shot about twenty feet off the street
Speaker 1: and it's pretty much.
Speaker 3: Sounds like a hell of a party situation there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think the most amazing part of that entire deal was,
Speaker 5: can you imagine, like the guy that finishes late on
Speaker 5: Friday or the guy that finishes late on Tuesday and
Speaker 5: he wants to go get a few extra reps on
Speaker 5: the drying range afterwards, and there's Ta Three's house right there.
Speaker 5: He's got laser beams and fire coming out the ceiling
Speaker 5: of his house, like, and you're trying to hit seven
Speaker 5: irons grinding, and you just wish you were invited to
Speaker 5: his party, but you're not.
Speaker 4: Or like you or like you're some rookie and you're
Speaker 4: paired with him Thursday and Friday or something because you're
Speaker 4: in the same category. But just to be nice to
Speaker 4: you three, he's like, yeah, man, come over to I
Speaker 4: having a little party and right on the range, you.
Speaker 3: Know, grab some dinner and you show up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's naked chicks with sushi and fire, fake fire
Speaker 4: and smoke.
Speaker 3: Come out of the house a little, a little get together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ok, well, well I wasn't really expecting to eat
Speaker 5: sushi off on nipple today, but here, here we are.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm twenty three years old. It's my third
Speaker 2: tour event.
Speaker 1: You went to the naked Sushi one?
Speaker 4: No, I wish I would have. I wasn't in. I
Speaker 4: think I was in. Pete went to the naked Yeah
Speaker 4: we didn't. I don't think we went. Man, we would have.
Speaker 1: H Yeah, that was only one. I mean that was
Speaker 1: only two years. I think we did the party for
Speaker 1: eleven years. So it wasn't naked sushi every year, but
Speaker 1: it certainly is. It's that stories stood the test of time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've we were just talking. I think you cut
Speaker 5: out for a second. But like, how funny would it it?
Speaker 5: Would it have been? And this probably happened multiple times,
Speaker 5: like a rookie on tour, you know, someone that didn't
Speaker 5: really know many players yet. You know, in two thousand
Speaker 5: and four, whenever this was happening, finishing up on a
Speaker 5: Tuesday and wanting to go grind on the range, you know,
Speaker 5: the last hours of daylight, and you're over there throwing
Speaker 5: fire and laser beams out of your house all over
Speaker 5: the range.
Speaker 1: It's it's it was always it was always Monday night.
Speaker 1: It was always Monday night at the party.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like you know, you finished the Monday pro
Speaker 5: am and this rookie is just trying to grind and
Speaker 5: there's like.
Speaker 2: There's a volcano happening on the left side of the range.
Speaker 2: I just love it. I just I love the mental image.
Speaker 1: I mean there was a lot of Monday there was
Speaker 1: a lot of commotion that house. Every year. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean one year we had a big band orchestra set
Speaker 1: up and did a big band and uh, it's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we've had We've had some night some pretty
Speaker 1: good parties.
Speaker 4: It's at your house on Christmas. PD TA three p
Speaker 4: D's house on Christmas. Like he's the neighbor that's got
Speaker 4: the coordinated music, you know where it's just all the
Speaker 4: kids are dancing in the street.
Speaker 3: Right, that's like that's PDS.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's it. Man.
Speaker 4: I just throw a couple of lights. I live in Lubbock,
Speaker 4: and everything just blows down the street. So I end
Speaker 4: up just throwing a couple of lights in the front
Speaker 4: yard to see what see what happens.
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Speaker 4: all right, Not to get too serious golf talk, but
Speaker 4: TA three. You know what's like the tour forget the
Speaker 4: live stuff or whatever. We talked about that enough fun
Speaker 4: here we can talk about if you want, But like,
Speaker 4: what do you think about them? Like harnessing the ball back?
Speaker 4: I get that there's pros and cons, but like, what
Speaker 4: do you what do you feel about them? Maybe dialing
Speaker 4: back to the golf ball.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the pros are for it, but
Speaker 1: you know, I guess there might be a pro for pro.
Speaker 1: I know what the cons are. It's like, why create
Speaker 1: a problem that doesn't exist?
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're a team con. I was just trying to
Speaker 4: be nice in case you were a team pro for it.
Speaker 4: So I was just throwing a little bit of a
Speaker 4: safety thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think golf's as good as it's ever been right now, man,
Speaker 4: And then playing different equipment's a little weird.
Speaker 1: It's going to make the short hitters shorter.
Speaker 2: Right for sure.
Speaker 4: Well, and you're in the golf course, you know, obviously
Speaker 4: you guys have projects going on so you know quite
Speaker 4: a bit about golf and golf design as well. And
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are thinking, you know,
Speaker 4: that they're going to go back and have a US
Speaker 4: Open at Myopa Hunt Club or something like that, you know,
Speaker 4: because they can't do it now because of the golf ball. Well,
Speaker 4: it's like the USJ doesn't give a shit they want
Speaker 4: they want two hundred thousand people on site. They only
Speaker 4: have about a handful in their arsenal any way. And
Speaker 4: I think the reason they're going to lac CC is
Speaker 4: LACC finally said all right, you guys can come here.
Speaker 4: I don't think they were like begging to have it
Speaker 4: I think La Country Club they would have had it
Speaker 4: there for years and years.
Speaker 3: That place is. That place is badass.
Speaker 1: They voted it down four to three for years. There
Speaker 1: you go, man, I don't know what I mean. Basically
Speaker 1: dialing the ball back effects about one hundred players on
Speaker 1: the planet exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you're going to spend fifty million dollars
Speaker 5: in R and D to make a new golf ball
Speaker 5: for one hundred people.
Speaker 1: Come on, max, one hundred people, I mean, because there's
Speaker 1: only there's only one hundred people that would swing the
Speaker 1: club over. Let's say one twenty five. You know, we
Speaker 1: can pick whatever number they're they're shooting for. But I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I don't know why they're doing it.
Speaker 1: What's the best reason you've heard why they're doing it.
Speaker 4: Well, the reason that we've heard is they want to
Speaker 4: they want to bring a little bit of skill back
Speaker 4: with mishits and make it shorter again. I'm I'm way
Speaker 4: team anti against against this. I think it's stupid. I
Speaker 4: like it that that amateurs and pros can play the
Speaker 4: same the same stuff. But they think mis hits will
Speaker 4: go more sideways. And then they think, you know, the
Speaker 4: harder you swing, the more it might potentially spin. But
Speaker 4: like anything, guys figure it out. Maybe they draw it
Speaker 4: instead of cut everything now because everything's cut biased. But
Speaker 4: it's not going to affect the leaderboard, it won't affect anything.
Speaker 1: You've watched this golf on TV. It's not like these
Speaker 1: guys on tour. It's great.
Speaker 4: No, No, I mean it's it's I don't know, it's stupid.
Speaker 4: I think I think it's super fun to watch. Now,
Speaker 4: you know, lives trying to change change it up. Your
Speaker 4: buddy PP obviously went there and they have kind of
Speaker 4: a different format. The PGA Tour has four three or
Speaker 4: four guys that could all be number one in the
Speaker 4: world on different weeks, which is pretty pretty different. Like
Speaker 4: the Masters. This year is going to be exciting the
Speaker 4: shit because really, if someone said, hey, I'll give you
Speaker 4: a million freed doll free role and you've got to
Speaker 4: pick the winner, like Rory never won, so extra pressure.
Speaker 4: I got Scheffler, you got Raw, you know morek plays.
Speaker 4: Well there, you got all these people. I don't even
Speaker 4: know who I would pick. You'd think Rory, but then
Speaker 4: you're like, shit, Rom's an ass kicking machine. Scheffler won
Speaker 4: their last year and he's pretty unflappable. Like I think
Speaker 4: it's I think it's fun of shit to watch right now.
Speaker 4: Why change anything?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when you go back to talking about
Speaker 5: the golf ball roll back, you know that the only
Speaker 5: real great player that's been for the entire thing has
Speaker 5: been Rory and we're not even sure if that's actually
Speaker 5: what he thinks. I feel as at this point he's
Speaker 5: on puppet strings by Jay Monahan and whatever Jay wants Rory.
Speaker 2: To say, that's what he says.
Speaker 5: And then right after he comes out and says that
Speaker 5: he hits the drive of the century. The next day
Speaker 5: and hits this like four hundred yard drive to three feet.
Speaker 5: Guess what won't happen if this gets past that that drive,
Speaker 5: that drive never happens. You know, this just doesn't make
Speaker 5: any sense to me, Like you want to you want
Speaker 5: to muffle Rory McLeroy, the best driver of the golf
Speaker 5: ball in the world, and he's somehow for it, Like
Speaker 5: nothing makes sense.
Speaker 4: Well, people are like, well, they'll just move the tea
Speaker 4: up and he can do that again. I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: that's the dumbest shit I ever heard. Why would you
Speaker 4: want the ball to go shorter but also move the
Speaker 4: te up so the holes play shorter.
Speaker 3: It's like, figure it out, figure it, figure that shit out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why create a problem that I like it?
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 4: T A three is on our side and he's he's
Speaker 4: the he's the for sure the smartest guy we've ever
Speaker 4: had on this pod before, because uh, I mean, you
Speaker 4: know we've had pp and stuff like that, you're the smartest.
Speaker 1: Did just see them last week at the match play?
Speaker 1: They posted the pass champions on the screen. Did you
Speaker 1: say that? Oh?
Speaker 4: And they left to live guys out right, that one
Speaker 4: right pathetic. Yeah, that's pretty petty, honestly. Well, Cam Smith won.
Speaker 4: I guess like at the players, if you win, you
Speaker 4: donate a piece of equipment, you have your pictures defending champion,
Speaker 4: all this, and I guess all of his ship was
Speaker 4: like ripped off every wall in the entire in the
Speaker 4: entire place.
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like the Democrats and the Republican.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 5: Pick us like anything else in America these days, you
Speaker 5: have to pick a site.
Speaker 2: It's just chicken shit, you.
Speaker 1: Know, if you say, you know, it's kind of it's
Speaker 1: it's you know, PJ Tour all of a sudden came
Speaker 1: up with a bunch of money and small fields and
Speaker 1: you know, here we go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, where was that money over the last thirty years,
Speaker 5: you know, just hiding under their Jay Monahan's couch and
Speaker 5: you know, who knows who knows where it was. I mean,
Speaker 5: they just pulled it out of a cloud like they
Speaker 5: acted like they didn't have any and all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: here's two hundred million dollars where we can increase the
Speaker 5: purses in one year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said it was in the pipeline the whole time.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, right, they could have all
Speaker 1: worked together and been kind of, you know, walk down
Speaker 1: the street hand in hand.
Speaker 5: I bet the guys on the Champions Tour were kind
Speaker 5: of pissed about that we had. We had David Toms
Speaker 5: on about three months ago, and DT's just.
Speaker 2: Just so great of a human being.
Speaker 5: But you could kind of tell in its voice when
Speaker 5: we started talking about to live and how all this
Speaker 5: buddy appeared on the PGA Tour, all of a sudden
Speaker 5: for these guys that DT was a little bit like
Speaker 5: something happened with the Champions Tour in their retirement where
Speaker 5: he wasn't He wasn't thrilled about it.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what he was talking about. Maybe you do.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's talking about. Actually I had
Speaker 1: dinner with Data the other night and Palm Springs at
Speaker 1: the Masson Club. Actually he came over for dinner and
Speaker 1: he won the tournament that week.
Speaker 3: David Toms was awesome on here.
Speaker 4: Obviously a lot of insight been on all the tour
Speaker 4: packs whatever, but just an a plus guys, he's a
Speaker 4: go tiger like p D so TA three. You have
Speaker 4: a ton of like famous friends like outside the Golf Circle,
Speaker 4: and it seems to me it's just because you're super chill,
Speaker 4: Like they just like to hang out with the chill guy.
Speaker 4: But is there any chance we can pull some strings
Speaker 4: and rent the Playboy Mansion for the US Open, which
Speaker 4: is on the fourth fourteenth t I think there are
Speaker 4: sixteenth at LCC. Just think of the parties we can
Speaker 4: have all week with the Playboy MANI right on the
Speaker 4: tea box there, like that's you.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can obviously get the food donated for free.
Speaker 4: I don't think there will be any lack of naked
Speaker 4: chicks with sushi potentially that we could we could find
Speaker 4: that week. But I mean, what do you think is
Speaker 4: that a good idea or what?
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, I mean that's a good idea in theory,
Speaker 1: But I don't really think the Playboy Mansion is kind
Speaker 1: of what it used to be, because I think all
Speaker 1: Playboys kind of have done. But we used to go
Speaker 1: back and feed the monkeys on that hall on the
Speaker 1: thirteenth tee. You could walk back about forty thirty yards
Speaker 1: and we I'd take food from the snack stam at
Speaker 1: the turn and then take them peanuts and feed them.
Speaker 1: Feed the monkeys peanuts. That all I've actually got. I've
Speaker 1: actually got videos of me feeding. There's just a slew
Speaker 1: of in this big cage of monkeys. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 4: So for those of you unfamiliar, the Playboy Mansion is
Speaker 4: on I guessed the thirteenth Tea at Ellen North where
Speaker 4: the US Open is. And apparently you can just feed
Speaker 4: monkeys right behind the tee and Pee.
Speaker 3: Can do the gros if you're on someone's shoulders.
Speaker 4: So how about that for a potential house rental of
Speaker 4: all the player current players on the PGA tour. If
Speaker 4: if the Playboy Mansion was open for a VRBO the
Speaker 4: Groad or the whole deal, and the Playboy Mansion was
Speaker 4: the Playboy Mansion of olds, who do you think would
Speaker 4: be renting the house from current tour players?
Speaker 3: Is there anybody that can party hard enough to rent
Speaker 3: that house?
Speaker 2: You think?
Speaker 1: You know? I mean, I I don't really you know,
Speaker 1: I've been I'm kind of removed from the tour. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm twelve thirty, I'm fourteen years kind of removed from
Speaker 1: the tourists. I don't really know a lot of these
Speaker 1: young guys, but I mean guys that look like they party.
Speaker 1: I mean that Higgs or what's his name.
Speaker 4: Harry Higgs. Yeah, he's been on here. Yeah, he might,
Speaker 4: he would rent it, for sure.
Speaker 1: He looks like he's a guy that has a beer
Speaker 1: after he's dying. Doesn't look like he goes to the gym.
Speaker 1: But he might go to him. I mean, he possibly could,
Speaker 1: but he you know, but you know, but he looks
Speaker 1: like he would, you know, go in there and kagger
Speaker 1: at it and stuff, and you know, yeah, Harry Harry.
Speaker 5: Would be a good a good candidate for the Playboy mansion,
Speaker 5: but he'd have to have like three or four other guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that thing fifteen thousand square feet or
Speaker 2: something like? It's just ginormous.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of square footage in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever been in there? Like, have you
Speaker 2: ever been to one of you half Theirs parties.
Speaker 1: A long time ago? One time? Wow? How was that?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's it was a lot
Speaker 1: of playmates running around. I mean.
Speaker 4: I'd probably I'd probably rent it and I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'd be like, this is going to be an epic party,
Speaker 4: and I'd rent it out and then it'd be like
Speaker 4: me and six dudes in the grotto, I'd be like, shit,
Speaker 4: now what now, now, what do we do?
Speaker 3: I have to know that no connections to that, no
Speaker 3: connections to part here.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Well then there's like the isn't the Spelling mansion or
Speaker 4: something on the same hole or close by?
Speaker 3: It takes up like half it's like a long part five.
Speaker 1: Well, five houses down. It's yeah, a Spelling house, which
Speaker 1: is I mean, it takes up about three three lots.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's huge. HiT's humbling. I think it's what
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand square feet or something. That's crazy. Oh
Speaker 1: what is the Spelling House? It's Aaron Spelling used to
Speaker 1: be his house and it's a couple of houses down
Speaker 1: from the Playboy mansion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's famous, like famous movie producer.
Speaker 4: You know, Tory Spelling is his I don't know daughter,
Speaker 4: granddaughter or whatever, but like, yeah, one of the most
Speaker 4: famous like producers ever and he has this thing called
Speaker 4: the Spelling Mansion. And this poor five is six hundred
Speaker 4: yards or however long, and his house is half of
Speaker 4: the hole. I mean, it's like with the Playboy mansion
Speaker 4: on the T box or something like that.
Speaker 2: What a hole?
Speaker 1: What a hole?
Speaker 2: Lucky number thirteen.
Speaker 1: It starts at about your second shot into the par
Speaker 1: five and goes pretty much all just about to the
Speaker 1: green on the right.
Speaker 5: Wow, man, are you going to go to the US
Speaker 5: Open this year? Are you going to be there now?
Speaker 5: I'll be in Portugal.
Speaker 1: Last summer I spent in Portugal, and this summer I'll
Speaker 1: be in Portugal for our new Discovery property there ta three.
Speaker 4: If you ever need some guys to potentially play with
Speaker 4: members and a member guest Discovery Property in Portugal, Cabo,
Speaker 4: I'm willing to leave.
Speaker 3: The country hundred percent.
Speaker 4: If you ever need a couple of guys that like
Speaker 4: to delete beer and margaritas and hang out, you just don't.
Speaker 4: Don't look farther than this pot. We're on your list.
Speaker 4: We're ready. So we'll take one for the team. We'll
Speaker 4: take one for the team.
Speaker 1: Your bags are packed?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't play. I just I'll bring one
Speaker 4: golf shirt. The golf is the least of my concerns
Speaker 4: when we go. When we go to the Discovery Property program, pro.
Speaker 1: You just need a suitcase and don't of them need
Speaker 1: to bring golf balls? Bring bring you know a body
Speaker 1: a body of I have.
Speaker 4: That I mean contrary to popular belief, I have a body.
Speaker 4: It's not the way that I'd like it to look,
Speaker 4: but I do have one that I can bring along.
Speaker 5: What's next for you at TA three, I mean you're
Speaker 5: you're uh, obviously the Discovery property mascot.
Speaker 2: You got kind of widening down the tour schedule.
Speaker 1: I'm going to La Friday and then Monday I'm find
Speaker 1: at Dubai. We have a new property in Dubai. We're
Speaker 1: going there. I'm going there for envisioning. We call them
Speaker 1: envisioning where we kind of, you know, invite a bunch
Speaker 1: of people to a party and kind of show them
Speaker 1: the vision we have for this and uh. And I'll
Speaker 1: be there till Friday, and then I come back and
Speaker 1: then I'm here until I go to the member guests
Speaker 1: in Cabo.
Speaker 3: So tell me about the Discovery. Are they all?
Speaker 4: Because I mean the project here we're doing Albick, you know,
Speaker 4: privately financed a lot of other that Avenzada.
Speaker 3: The Discovery is Discovery.
Speaker 4: Are y'all own all the properties or do you guys
Speaker 4: just manage Do you guys just manage the properties?
Speaker 3: In real estate?
Speaker 1: Well, it's a little both. Most of the places we
Speaker 1: have partners that you know, like they'll they'll own the land.
Speaker 1: Like like here in Vegas we have the uh you know,
Speaker 1: someone incorporates and they they own the land that the
Speaker 1: property that we did called the Summit and and then
Speaker 1: we uh you know, we sell the landform and create
Speaker 1: you know, a lifestyle and golf course and amenities. And
Speaker 1: like our clubhouse is opening May twenty seventh here and
Speaker 1: and it's it'll be a pretty badass. It's about one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty thousand square feet under roof. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be epic clubhouse. And uh you know,
Speaker 1: but that's you know that down in the desert, We've
Speaker 1: got the Hideaway Chelino Bay, Hawaii, we have mckinna. We
Speaker 1: used to have Kakio and we got South Shore Preserve,
Speaker 1: and like Idaho we have uh Gaza Ranch in Late
Speaker 1: quarter Lane. So I mean there's some uh you know
Speaker 1: we used to have we used to have Vacaro in
Speaker 1: Dallas and uh you know, I mean it's their community summer.
Speaker 1: Some are second and third homes and some of them
Speaker 1: are primary residencies.
Speaker 4: And is that drift Driftwood in Austin, Is that a
Speaker 4: new one of Discovery also.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I was going to say, and we
Speaker 1: have Driftwood in Austin.
Speaker 3: That's awesome, that's awesome. I was talking about Red Feather.
Speaker 4: I was talking to Casey uh there, because we have
Speaker 4: you know, there's temporary every course. You spend so much
Speaker 4: money building the course, and obviously the amenities come along
Speaker 4: kind of over time, right. The he was helping us
Speaker 4: out with some temporary stuff. But yeah, the service and everything,
Speaker 4: that's that's the jam. Obviously they're expensive to join. The
Speaker 4: dudes are expensive, but it's one of those you get
Speaker 4: what you pay for deals.
Speaker 1: It is. You're talking to Casey Polson yep, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Casey has been every a long time. He he probably
Speaker 1: gave me a good tutorial and h the dues and
Speaker 1: don'ts and how to do it and stuff because he's uh,
Speaker 1: he's been around for a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, that's that's awesome. So Pete or or you talked
Speaker 4: about one hundred and what do you say? One hundred
Speaker 4: and sixty thousand square feet clubhouse?
Speaker 3: Is that? What is this's gotta be? I mean what
Speaker 3: is that one hundred?
Speaker 2: I mean ship?
Speaker 3: What does that cost a bit? What is that a
Speaker 3: one hundred million dollar building. I have no idea that's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's north of one hundred million, but yeah, it's but
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's gonna it's really gonna be nice when
Speaker 1: it opens. Yeah, it'll be Uh it'll set a new
Speaker 1: kind of I think standard certainly for us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, on these Discovery properties and the golf courses, I'm
Speaker 5: kind of naive when it comes to these things. Do
Speaker 5: y'all pick a different designer for everyone? I mean, Fazzio
Speaker 5: is the rumor here in Fort Worth.
Speaker 1: I mean we have a lot of Fazzio courses, but uh,
Speaker 1: we have you know, we've had other guys that have
Speaker 1: done the courses and stuff like uh like marabell Is
Speaker 1: was a Norman play course that Fazio came in and
Speaker 1: touched up. And uh, you've got a Jones course and
Speaker 1: the Dominican at Playa Grande and El Dorado is a
Speaker 1: Nicholas course. But a lot of them are Fasio, who
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Fasio because when he builds
Speaker 1: a course, I mean his creek work in lake work
Speaker 1: is second to none, I think. I mean, when you
Speaker 1: look at a creek, it looks like it's been there
Speaker 1: for a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he can. He can build them all.
Speaker 4: When you look at top hundred in the US, like,
Speaker 4: he's got some that are I mean, he's got some
Speaker 4: of the best obviously, and then he's got got more
Speaker 4: resort styles. But I don't know, he play has twenty
Speaker 4: in the top hundred.
Speaker 3: He has a ton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he I mean he can deliver a nice resort
Speaker 1: course and you know, depending on the budget, he can
Speaker 1: deliver you, you know, the badass which we have a
Speaker 1: lot of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shadow Creek style.
Speaker 1: Have you ever played Shadow Creek? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I usually play a pro am there every year. I play.
Speaker 3: I mean, it is it's it's wild, it's it's so cool.
Speaker 1: If you did drop the Shadow Creek, you wouldn't even
Speaker 1: know you in Vegas. If you didn't know you were
Speaker 1: in Vegas.
Speaker 3: It's so cool, man, it's so cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I play there and one day, one day I played
Speaker 4: and on the next day of the tournament, there was
Speaker 4: a new tree to aim at, totally different tree, and
Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, sometimes seasonally we change trees because just
Speaker 4: one won't survive in the summer, so we take it
Speaker 4: out and put it away, and then we put this one.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's freaking crazy, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, I think Shadow Creeks. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one of the great golf experiences on the planet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is pretty wild. When they have interchangeable trees.
Speaker 5: I mean, Augusta National is rumored to have an entire
Speaker 5: nursery where they have every single tree that's in play
Speaker 5: on the golf course, they have a replacement for it,
Speaker 5: like in the nursery behind the club. That's it's just wild.
Speaker 5: Some of the budgets of these places are just unlimited,
Speaker 5: so there's really no rules to what they can and
Speaker 5: can't do.
Speaker 2: Remember when they lost the Eisenhower.
Speaker 5: Tree, there was a debate on how to replace it,
Speaker 5: and you can't replace it two hundred year old tree, right,
Speaker 5: Augusta National. They were sure shit got to figure out
Speaker 5: a way to a six foot wide.
Speaker 1: Oak tree, you know, but they.
Speaker 2: Could, if anyone could, they could.
Speaker 5: But yeah, these discovery properties they have, it seems to
Speaker 5: me like they have unlimited money as well, because none
Speaker 5: of them go out of business and all of them
Speaker 5: are thriving.
Speaker 1: Seems like, well, you know, people that can afford it
Speaker 1: like their privacy and they like their security, you know,
Speaker 1: and so and in service all those three things. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you give those three things and do it well,
Speaker 1: you'll get people that attend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure, it sounds it sounds like Summit
Speaker 4: Club's amazing there and then Shadow Creek amazing golf experience both.
Speaker 4: But then like clubhouse wise, they probably sound like they
Speaker 4: couldn't be more different. I mean, the clubhouse at Shadow
Speaker 4: Creek is I don't even what is the whole thing,
Speaker 4: five thousand square feet. Maybe the locker room's huge or whatever,
Speaker 4: but then it's just a different deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's that's total. That's like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of obvious that there's not a lot of members
Speaker 1: there because I mean the locker rooms kind of cool,
Speaker 1: kind of open, and you know, you can see you're
Speaker 1: in the locker room, you can see anybody in the
Speaker 1: locker room, which at our place, our new clubhouse, that's
Speaker 1: not quite that you can be lost in there for
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool though. It's pretty sweet.
Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 1: We're launching our wedges too here and I mean they're
Speaker 1: kind of launched, but the whole fall Arsenal will be
Speaker 1: in in the next few days. So we're getting ready
Speaker 1: to push a drive and put a big drive on that.
Speaker 1: And they're really their wedges are really not. Everybody that
Speaker 1: hit some loves them, so I'm really happy with them. Awesome.
Speaker 3: Well one good thing.
Speaker 4: So obviously we talked about, you know, the golf world whatever,
Speaker 4: but you have a lot of celebrities athletes, like what
Speaker 4: what's the best casual round form because I know your
Speaker 4: buddy you're playing with MJ a bunch, but like, what's
Speaker 4: the best golf experience you've had. It's like a you know,
Speaker 4: a chill golf experience playing with the other three dudes
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 1: One of the most unusual and it's a great word
Speaker 1: these days. Organic for a group was back before cell
Speaker 1: phones and all that. I used to play with. Robert
Speaker 1: Wagner was my partner in the AT and T and
Speaker 1: about two weeks before the tournament, I called on the phone.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, we're going to Tuesday, we're going to
Speaker 1: play at Cyprus Point, and I said okay. So I
Speaker 1: show up on that Tuesday morning, and when I walk up,
Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood was putting on the putting green and so
Speaker 1: I and I knew Clint, and I said, hey, I done.
Speaker 1: He goes great, great, And we're sitting hitting a few butts,
Speaker 1: and then Bert Lancaster rolls up and Clint introduced me
Speaker 1: to Burt Lancaster, Hey are you doing? And uh, and
Speaker 1: I didn't really realize. Then right after that, Robert Wagner
Speaker 1: walked up and I go, hey, Robert, you know how
Speaker 1: you doing d And he goes, did you meet Burton Clinton?
Speaker 1: I go, well, I knew Clinton. I just met Burt.
Speaker 1: And he goes, okay, good, we're playing. We're playing together.
Speaker 1: So and I was, you know, quite a group just
Speaker 1: for like all of a sudden, then teeing off with
Speaker 1: Burt Lancaster, Clint Eastwood and Robert Wagner and we got
Speaker 1: done and we went and ate in the kitchen at
Speaker 1: Cypress Point, which I mean you gotta have a coat
Speaker 1: on and eat in the dining room there. So we
Speaker 1: went in the kitchen there and for one of those
Speaker 1: rounds that always is stuck in my mind as unusual
Speaker 1: and off the hook.
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool, old school Hollywood man.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean. When you've played with when
Speaker 2: you've played with.
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan and all these guys, and you've probably played
Speaker 5: with everybody from Hollywood and athletes everywhere, and that's that's
Speaker 5: your special pairing. I mean, that is that's pretty damn cool.
Speaker 5: I would have never if you'd have given me one
Speaker 5: hundred guesses a to who are the other three guys
Speaker 5: in your force and where I never would have guessed
Speaker 5: those three.
Speaker 2: I mean, Clint Eastwood is to go.
Speaker 1: It was just one of the most unusual ones that
Speaker 1: really wasn't planned that that I that just happened was
Speaker 1: kind of the what was ironic about that whole thing
Speaker 1: is like I didn't know going out there that I
Speaker 1: was going to play with Burt Lancaster and Clint Eastwood
Speaker 1: that day, which I had played with Clint before, but
Speaker 1: you know it was so it was kind of one
Speaker 1: of those days that goes back in my memory of
Speaker 1: kind of one of those special days.
Speaker 5: That's pretty sweet. Yeah, Yeah, I think that's that's probably good.
Speaker 5: That's probably good enough for us I mean, shit, he's
Speaker 5: starting to wake up, Like you're starting to see a
Speaker 5: little more of his face. Now it's been dark for
Speaker 5: forty five minutes in his room. We're starting to see
Speaker 5: a little bit of him. It might be time to
Speaker 5: let him go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to Dubai Portugal, going down to Cabo
Speaker 4: to play a little member.
Speaker 3: Guess he's got him. He's going to have himself a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks here, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be a few different time zones here. In
Speaker 1: a minute, I think I to do Bay is like
Speaker 1: eighteen hours something Monday, four in the four in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: and I get there today and then I come right
Speaker 1: back Friday, So I won't be there that long. I've
Speaker 1: never been there.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully you're not in like thirty five e all
Speaker 2: the way over there. That would be a disaster.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to guess that's not the case.
Speaker 1: I'm not in thirty five.
Speaker 2: All right, good well, thank you, thank you for coming
Speaker 2: on for the people. That was a hell of a deal.
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Speaker 1: On, well my pleasure guys, and you know, whenever you
Speaker 1: want to do again, let me know. You bet we'll
Speaker 1: do that. Oh yeah, all right boys spe