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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. I am here today with my black

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cowboy hat, my mass scara, and my leather buttlss pants.

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Speaker 2: Jason, Hey, I've got.

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Speaker 3: My stubble going, I got my cowboy, have got my

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sunglasses on, I got some lipstick on.

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Speaker 2: Dale. I'm ready to go. I've we've got the fire

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technic set up here.

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Speaker 3: And we're ready to go. That is awesome, everybody.

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Speaker 1: We are here for our very special episode on Poisons

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album Open Up and Say Ah, released thirty five years

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ago this month. We are super excited to be talking

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about that and we are super excited to have our

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special guests for the day, mister Dale Selby Dale, how

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you doing man?

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys, appreciate it. I love love being here.

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This is really exciting. Great to be back in Oklahoma.

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Big fan of the show since day one, proud Patreons

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porter of you guys, and really excited to be here.

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I anticipate nothing but a good time as we break

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this album down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Dale has mentioned that he is a Patreon member. Guys,

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if you want to join up on our Patreon page

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and then say hey, can you guys have us as

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a co host by all means, yes, we are willing

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to hoore ourselves out.

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Speaker 2: And just like the backup singers for Poison's.

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Speaker 3: First tour, Dale is a good college buddy of mine

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and so it's good to see him.

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Speaker 2: And he's back in town.

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Speaker 3: And I guess the three of us all went to

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OU and it's a little little Sooner reunion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Sound a good time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, guys, you guys are ready to talk dirty.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk dirty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, before we get going, Dale brought us a present.

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Speaker 2: I can't come and empty handed.

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Speaker 1: The man Patreon subscriber, co host gift giver. I'm pretty

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sure that we're gonna you know, this is really cool,

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cry tough hearness.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's see what we got here. Oh nice, Yes,

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we have a pop Rocks Brett Michaels with the vandana

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and everything he's got thrown up the little horn sign.

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This is greatbody.

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Speaker 2: My son collects these. He tends more towards the Marvel

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and Star Wars kind. But I saw this the other

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day and I thought this after we talked, and you

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guys invited me up here, so I thought, what better

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gift to bring you guys, maybe have a little Bret

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Michael's watching over us as we.

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Speaker 1: Have this Funko pop shall be the first Funco pop

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on the studio shelf over here.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Thank you, buddy, you appreciate that. That's nice. Okay,

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thank you for bringing me up.

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Speaker 1: Well, you've definitely primed the engine. We all are now

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remembering what we were listening to back in nineteen eighty eight. Yes,

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and so May of that year. I can remember going

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to Hastings Records with my mom because I was like,

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new Poison album is out. I didn't buy very many albums,

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and so I was like, we're going I would love

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to go and get this and she's like, sure, I'll

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take you. And then I realize, oh crap, this doesn't

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have talk Dirty to me on it.

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Speaker 2: That's the old album that has talked dirty to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't know which one

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of these I get right, And my mom was like,

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why don't you get both?

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Speaker 2: Nice? That was a memorable day.

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Speaker 1: Ready to go look what the cat dragged in and

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open up and say, oh, same.

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Speaker 2: Day double taper.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hastings Records in Central Mall, Fort Smith, Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: DLLE, What about you? Did you on this album? I

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owned this album. I think I got mine at sound

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warehouse in Oklahoma City. I think if Memory Service was

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at the corner of Rockwell and Northwest Highway maybe in

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Oklahoma City. Nice.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now here's my question. Did you guys own the

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original cover?

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Speaker 2: Yes, day it came out, so don't remember. I don't

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think I did. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So I got mine as a birthday gift from my

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buddy Dax Junker down the street, Daks. If you're listening,

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hit us up on email, hit us up on Facebook.

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My fifteenth birthday would have been May fourth of nineteen

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eighty eight. This album dropped May third of eighty eight,

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and I remember he came over to my house gave

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it to me as a birthday gift, and it was

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the original model with the giant tongue. What do you

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think about this album cover?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: The size of the tongue leads you to believe that

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there's some other bodily part that suggested other than a tongue.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: The album title adds to that belief. Yes, And then

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you got the question of who is this guy? It's

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a girl or girl or girl?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is she supposed to look like? Is this

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a cat? Is this a demon?

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Speaker 4: Is this?

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Speaker 2: What is this exactly?

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Speaker 3: It's like a tiger girl thing, right, you know?

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Speaker 2: So do you have an answer for us? Well, here's

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what I know.

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Speaker 3: I know that they changed the album title to open

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up and say Ah. The original album title was called

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Swallow This. A little more suggestive then, right, So I

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think that they said, you know what, let's clean that

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up just a little bit. Although I think they should

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rename this album. I don't like open up and say ah,

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but I think an album title like nothing but a

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Good Time would have been and a better title rather

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than open up and Swallow.

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Speaker 2: This, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So that's just my personal opinion. By the way, this

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episode drops May second of twenty twenty three, this album

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will have just turned thirty five years old.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a lot to go into on the history.

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We've got some incredible songs to cover, and I'll throw

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some tidbits in as we go through.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a very abbreviated history.

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Speaker 1: So these guys were from Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. Brett Michaels Ricky

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Rockett who were not born Brett Michaels and Ricky Rockett.

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Speaker 2: You got their original.

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Speaker 3: Names for me, Sir Brett Michael Sycheck so.

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Speaker 2: Cc Deville was Bruce Anthony Johannson, Bobby Doll, Robert Harry Kaikendahl.

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Ricky Rockett was born Richard Allen Reim. Ricky Rockett gets

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more girls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So both Brett and Ricky had been involved in

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bands before they got together. They got together after Brett's

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first band, which I believe was called Laser.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Brett had a band and started like in the sixth

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grade and called him Laser. Yeah, and then Ricky joined

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and they were called the Specters. The Specters. Do you

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think it was a James Bond thing. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: No, Okay, something about ghosts. Anyway, they didn't stick together

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with that band. They decided to branch out because they

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had more They had bigger dreams than the rest of

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the band seemed to have. And one day they run

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into this guy who's calling himself Bobby Doll in a

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I think it was a dairy queen. They met him

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at a dairy queen and he had the same ambition

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that they had.

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Speaker 2: He had just been playing in garage bands.

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Speaker 1: But I think his words were, these guys had day jobs,

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and I wanted to play with guys.

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Speaker 2: Who wanted to do only this, right.

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Speaker 3: I want somebody dedicated and who wants to be a

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rock star.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so they got together with a guitarist and

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his name.

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Speaker 2: Was Matt Smith.

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Speaker 3: Matt Smith, he needs to work on his stage name

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a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't know, it seems I don't know

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when these guys came up with their other names. I

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think it was probably when they moved out to Hollywood,

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but I'm not sure. But you know, you look at

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bands like Guns n' Roses, who obviously wasn't wasn't a

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thing yet, right, But it seemed like that was the

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thing to do once you get to the Hollywood strip,

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was rename yourself.

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Speaker 2: Right. Sure, Matt Smith probably didn't hang around long enough

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to get his stage name. It doesn't sound like I

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think he got frustrated as the band was making their

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rounds around La. Yeah, here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: So he went out to LA with him in eighty three,

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and he left in eighty five.

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Speaker 2: Right before they hit They hit it big in eighty six.

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Speaker 3: Right right, Jim Matt just the wrong time to jump

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off that train.

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Speaker 2: Buddy, My gosh. Now I will give him credit.

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Speaker 3: He realized he had got his girlfriend pregnant, was like, crab, guys,

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I'm not gonna leave my son fatherless. I love rock

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and roll, but I'm going to go back and be

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a father to my son.

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Speaker 2: So all the cred in.

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Speaker 3: The world this guy left the Hollywood dream and the

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rock and roll lifestyle to be a dad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so now they're without a guitarist and the guitar

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and Matt Smith was kind of the centerpiece of the

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music of the band.

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Speaker 3: I mean he was he was in charge of the music.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Doll was kind of in charge of the business

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of things, and Ricky and Brett were like.

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Speaker 2: Let's do the band image.

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Speaker 1: And so they're without kind of their main music guy.

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And so they start auditioning local guitarists and basically it

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comes down to two guys. C. C. Deville, Yes and Slash.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine Slash from Guns N' Roses and Poison,

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Speaker 1: It is a fit that doesn't fit, and I think

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that was kind of the primary issue. I mean, Slash

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is kind of an easy going, not glamorous guy. And

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CEC de Milt they didn't like it, Like even at

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the audition they didn't like it.

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Speaker 2: They're like, this guy's kind of a dick. Wasn't playing

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what they asked him to play. The other right, he's like,

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I don't want.

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Speaker 3: To play your music, listen to what I've got.

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Speaker 1: And now that being said, what he had was talk dirty,

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that's right, because he had come from a band screaming Mimi's,

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screaming Mimi's and had that song in his arsenal. And

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I mean you got to say, hey, that's not a

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bad idea to come in with that song and play

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it strong.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. I think that may been the

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main reason why they brought him on board.

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Speaker 2: You think it was because of that song.

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Speaker 3: Well he could play, yeah, But so all three of

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them thought, this guy's obnoxious.

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Speaker 2: He's loud, he's rude, he's I don't know if he's

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going to fit in. He rubs everybody the wrong way.

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He's very New York.

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Speaker 3: He's from Yeah, he's from Brooklyn. But he's got this

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song right and it's great. Yeah, and I think we

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can do something with that song.

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Speaker 2: And he had the glam look that they were going for.

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Speaker 1: He had grown up watching the New York Dolls and

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was into that kind of idea of glam metal lily Yeah,

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and that fit with what these three guys had going.

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Speaker 3: So I read Slash's autobiography right, and I remember when

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he auditioned for Poison, he had these like come up

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to your knee moccasins, and Bobby Doll said to him, so,

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would you like wear those type of shoes? Slashes like,

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what's the matter with my shoes?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we don't really like those type of shoes.

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So they were much more interested in their image that

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Slash was not going to be a part of them.

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Speaker 2: So I think everybody ended up where they were supposed

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to end up. I totally agree. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: By the way, C C. Deville almost ended up in Striper.

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a Christian rock band. Ye.

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Speaker 3: Well, hey, Striper, people forget this. Striper was a big

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name on the on the Sunset Strip and they did

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have some success. They had a big selling album on MTV.

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Speaker 2: They were big junior high years.

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Speaker 3: They were they were now then they have not sustained

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that success.

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Speaker 4: But C. C.

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Speaker 2: Deville has since become a.

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Speaker 3: Born and green Christian, so maybe he would fit by.

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Speaker 2: Now than he did at that time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so these guys became popular on the Sunset strip yep,

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popular with the girls especially. They had girls who were like, Hey,

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can we come clean your apartment and bring you groceries

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just for the opportunity to hang out with the pretty

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boys in the band. Sure, the pretty boys who, like

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the other bands we've talked about, all were crashing together

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in the same writty apartment. But they weren't successful enough

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to pull a major record label. What they got was

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this smaller record label called Enigma.

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Speaker 2: That's a mystery to me. That joke.

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Speaker 1: You knew it was coming. And so Enigma is the

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one that puts together their very first album, the album

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we just talked about.

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Speaker 2: Look what the cat dragged in.

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Speaker 1: Now, this album was made for thirty thousand dollars. That

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I mean, if you just imagine how much is spent

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on so many other albums that we've talked about, and

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the success of this album to think that they did

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it all for thirty thousand, a lot of which they

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paid for themselves, right right.

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Speaker 3: They didn't have the benefactor that.

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Speaker 1: Like all of the other bands we talked about, these

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guys invested in themselves and it paid off. They started

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touring with Ratt and Cinderella and suddenly, little by little,

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the album.

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Speaker 2: Started to take off.

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Speaker 3: First single off of that album was cry Tough, Right.

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Speaker 2: I pointed out to you.

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Speaker 1: Guys, you know I'd been a while since I listened

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to it from the beginning, and we went into detail

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on a song that was a major factor back in

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the sixties by the Ronettes called My Baby. Same drum

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and drum, same drum introduction, right, but here we come

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in with this metal awesomeness in the guitar and it's

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a totally different song.

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Speaker 2: But it's not that single that does it for him.

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Speaker 1: It's the one that CC brought to the band, that

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makes them who they are.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So here's the thing. When they released Krytop, it

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had a little bit of success. They released it on MTV.

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I don't remember it being a success.

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Speaker 2: I don't either, And the.

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Speaker 3: Record company said, hey, for your first record out of

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the gate, you've done pretty well. You've sold two hundred

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and fifty thousand copies. That's pretty good. Let's go back

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in the studio, let's make album number two and they're like,

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what are you talking about. We've got other songs we

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want to release. They're like, no, it's too expensive. And

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so Brett had to beg varrow and steal and basically

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fund that video for top Dirty to Me. He's like, listen, guys,

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we need one more single out of this. And so

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they scraped together seven thousand dollars, They invited all their

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friends out and they filmed talk Dirty to Me and

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it goes through the roof.

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Speaker 2: I remember when this was a huge song on MTV. Yeah,

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seven thousand bucks. That's nothing back in the day.

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Speaker 3: So this album goes on to become the most successful

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album for Enigma in all of its history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Talk Dirty to Me is the song that

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made me want to go out and buy the album

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that we're going to talk about today, which is their

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second album, Open Up and Say.

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Speaker 3: Aw Before we go track by track, I've got a

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little bit on Open Up and Say Awe.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: This album sold eight million copies worldwide, peaked at number

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two on the Billboard two hundred chart, behind behind Faith

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by George Michael.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't caught that episode, go check out the

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Shirley Can't Be Serious podcast episode on George Michael's Faith

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versus in Excess Kick.

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Speaker 3: That's right, so listen to this. The week that it

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topped out at number two was June eighteenth of nineteen

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eighty eight. Okay, Number one was Faith, Number two was

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open Up and say Ah. Number three was Hysteria. We've

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also covered that. Number four was Dirty Dancing.

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Speaker 2: We've covered that.

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Speaker 3: Number five is o UA one two, which we're going

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to cover in about a month. Number nine is Appetite

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for Destruction. Number ten is Bad. Out of that top ten,

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we will have knocked out seven track by track albums.

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Speaker 2: Three more to go, We're awesome. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This album was originally supposed to be produced by Paul Stanley. Okay,

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now he got wrapped up in his own album at

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the time, Crazy Crazy Nights, But he was a hero

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to them, and in fact, Bobby Dall has that bass

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with Paul Stanley's face on it and he plays it

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through all these videos.

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Speaker 1: The other interesting thing is that they covered rock and

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Roll All Night for the Less than Zero soundtrack, Right.

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Speaker 5: Mister Rocket, thanks you.

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Speaker 2: That song also makes an appearance in the video.

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Speaker 3: It does good time, it does, Yes, it does Tom

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Mormon produced this album?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Tom Mormon is the guy. He's worked with Motley Crue

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like he did Shout Out the Devil, he did Girls,

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Girls Girls. Yep, they got a legit producer. You know.

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I heard Brett talk about how look what the cat

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dragged in was just a glorified demo.

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Speaker 2: Took him twelve days to record that. Wow. So this

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one they.

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Speaker 3: Actually dug in, got a real producer, produced a real album,

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and it's all parties and limousines.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, are we ready to jump in? Track

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by track?

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Speaker 3: Let's do it, man, I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: Let's go all right.

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Speaker 3: First song out of the gate is a song called

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Love on the Rocks.

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Speaker 2: Now right out of the box. Great opening guitar riff,

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just hits you right in the face. Track one. This

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is the perfect opening song for the album. I like

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the line in there.

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Speaker 3: I think I told you guys earlier that the original

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title of the album album was called Swallow This, and

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you've got that She's my poison, So why don't you

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swallow this right? Call back to the original title there.

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Speaker 2: I love the fast paced nature of this song. I

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think this might have been another single perhaps for them

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to release.

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Speaker 3: It's a great one, right, this one begs to be

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thumped out of my speakers driving down the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tempole.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna put some tent poles on

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the beginning of the album and then the album, this

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is a great.

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Speaker 2: Song as your first one out of the game.

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Speaker 3: Poison had its own way of snagging groupies. So Bobby

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Doll anytime he licked his fingers and pointed, that was

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his clue to the roadies, that's the girl. Brett Michaels

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would point out his selection, either during the drum solo.

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Speaker 2: Or during the guitar solo, even some time to look around.

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Speaker 1: Less likely to have a mistake that way too, Like

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you're pointing, you're licking your fingers and pointing.

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Speaker 3: To a crowd, right, and then like this one, how

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about that one?

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Speaker 4: This one?

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Speaker 2: This one? Are you serious? Now?

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Speaker 3: Listen, here's what Ricky Rocket would do. He would throw

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his drumsticks at the one. He You know, Dale, you

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and I were talking before we started recording. Poison always

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advertised that they were all about having good time and

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rock and roll.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this checks all those boxes we talked before. This

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is not you two, This is not the Beatles. This

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is fun, ear candy rock and roll, kick ass a rock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not Living Color. Right, we're going to talk

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about Leaving Color next week. Living Color is a great

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rock band, but they're more political, they're more conscientious. There's

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you know, intelligent, smarter, Yeah, better musicians. Yes, so that's

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gonna be an interesting comparison. But this is just straight

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fun rock and roll. Okay, we're ready to jump into

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track number two. Let's go to maybe the single greatest

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party rock song of the night eighties. This song is

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called nothing but a Good Time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a fantastic song. I think the opening

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is a great guitar riff, maybe second only to Talk

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Dirty to Me. I think this was the mega hit

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that really established them as super rock stars. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This was the first single off of the album.

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Speaker 1: This was a combination of a guitar riff by Ceci

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and a chorus by Brett.

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Speaker 2: They go together seamlessly. It is perfection.

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Speaker 3: It's a song for the working people, the people that

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are breaking their backs every day. Right, Yeah, it's totally relatable.

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It's for the working man. We've all had jobs that

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we hate and we just want to turn on the

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rock music.

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Speaker 5: Hands don't do it or wait, hand you can hear me.

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Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Good time, that's what the guys back in the mechanics bird,

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that's the thing, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: I definitely would say this is the greatest party rock

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song of the eighties. It is everything that Poison advertised

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themselves to be.

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Speaker 2: See uh reasons.

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Speaker 5: Breaking a bone, The good laps a crab.

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Speaker 3: It's a great crunchy lick. The chorus is singable, something

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we can relate to.

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Speaker 2: The guitar solo is fantastic, and.

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Speaker 3: Then you got that like pumping drums in the middle

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of it when it kind of breaks down.

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Speaker 2: It so fun. Love it by the way.

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Speaker 3: He was released an April of eighty eight, made it

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to number six.

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Speaker 2: On the charts.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to hear them?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I definitely want to hear them. Yeah? What beat? What beat?

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This song?

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Speaker 4: Out?

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Speaker 3: Here are the five songs that are better than nothing

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but a Good Time in eighty eight. Number five Dirty

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Diana by Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. That is honestly, that's a fantastic song. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Number four New Sensation by an Excess like it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a good it's a really good song.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Number three Pour Some Sugar on Me, well obviously, okay.

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Number two Mercedes Boy by Pebbles.

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Speaker 2: Well, now we have our loser.

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Speaker 3: I like Pebbles and I like Mercedes Boy, but come on,

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nothing but a good time, no way. The number one

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song this week in nineteen eighty eight by let that's

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July of eighty eight is the Flame by Cheap Trick.

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Speaker 2: Great, something wrong my bag? But yeah, I can understand

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that that was a huge, huge song back then.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, can we talk about the video for a second.

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Speaker 1: First, let me say the video starts off with that song,

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just like you said, It starts off with Conroll Night, Yes,

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the one that they had covered off of from Kiss

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And there's a guy washing dishes listening to this song.

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That guy was the same guy who was in the

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Motley Crue video You're all I need.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping to blow your mind.

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Speaker 1: So, but that being said, I'm shure I'm going to

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show you guys this. I mean, I'm sorry you know

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podcast audience that you can't see this, but look at

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the cover for the single for this song.

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Speaker 2: Right right now, I'm going to show you the cover

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for the single for wow song. Like they're identical.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 1: If you want to go check out the You're All

475
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,319
I Need single cover versus the nothing but a Good

476
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,319
Time single cover, they may very well be standing in

477
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:50,039
front of the exact same curve, like literally, the arms

478
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,319
are around each other in.

479
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 3: The exact same way.

480
00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: Like it is uncanny, how alike these two albums are crazy.

481
00:22:57,079 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 3: That's the song You're All I Need, the one I

482
00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:00,680
said was the best song off Girls, Girls, Girls that

483
00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:02,519
you ripped me for last summer.

484
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's terrible. It is still terrible. No, it's so good.

485
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,039
Speaker 3: So that's the guy who kills his girlfriend and You're

486
00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:10,359
All I Need video. Yeah, okay, I just want to

487
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,720
play something for you, all right. I want to play

488
00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:26,759
you the song Deuce by Kiss. You think first five

489
00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:27,920
notes are the same five notes?

490
00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: Okay? I thought it sounded pretty similar.

491
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It is definitely very It's a variation on

492
00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:33,839
a theme, I would say, But.

493
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,279
Speaker 2: I would say Cec pulled it off better. Yeah, I agree.

494
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,799
It's more of a beat version of that riff.

495
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: He twists it up instead of letting it kind of

496
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,799
they let the air out of it on Kiss. But

497
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,920
I'm also not the biggest Kiss fan, so you're probably

498
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,839
not gonna they can convince me otherwise on that one.

499
00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:53,039
Speaker 3: So the director on this video is a guy named

500
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,319
Mark Ryshevski.

501
00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: Right.

502
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,319
Speaker 1: This was only his second directing attempt. First one was

503
00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:01,160
a band called bond Iron Sleeping Alone.

504
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,279
Speaker 2: This is his second one.

505
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 3: The next one was Britney Fox Girls' School.

506
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Britney Fox.

507
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

508
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: Then he did Cinderella Coming Home, which is we're gonna

509
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,559
be covering later on this year Cinderella versus LU eight

510
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,200
one two right, yep. And then a couple videos later

511
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:20,799
he was doing skid Row I Remember You, which we

512
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,640
covered on our Motley Crue Versus skid Row combination from

513
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:26,599
what was it last year?

514
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: That was two years ago?

515
00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 4: Wow?

516
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: Crazy.

517
00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good string of hit songs right there,

518
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:35,839
hair metal hits coming Home maybe my favorite song off

519
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,720
of Long Cold Winter. You have to stick around and

520
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:39,880
listen to that episode to find out. Okay, So in

521
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,880
this video you and I were talking about how this

522
00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:45,079
is a theme that Poison has throughout their videos. There's

523
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,000
number one constant movement, high energy, flashy clothes, tons of

524
00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,920
clothing changes, tons of different guitars, bright colors.

525
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,559
Speaker 2: Big hair, especially on cz Big Hair.

526
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 3: Those pyrotechnics, they get too close to him. Yeah right,

527
00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:01,240
Case's got a giant school guitar.

528
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,079
Speaker 2: That's really cool.

529
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: You have tons of pyro and it all finishes off

530
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,400
with loads of confetti. It's like they're inviting you to

531
00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:12,519
have fun with them. Yeah, but I love that in

532
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,960
the middle of this video they're all holding their guitars

533
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,839
over their head and they're they're kind of doing this

534
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,839
pump action, and then the pyro is going off behind him,

535
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,319
and you know, Ricky's patting the drums. It's just so

536
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:22,799
much fun.

537
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,039
Speaker 2: I don't know how anybody can resist this song. Yeah,

538
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:27,920
I've said it over and over again. It's candy for

539
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,799
the ear. You know, it's a guilty pleasure and it's

540
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:31,920
a fantastic song.

541
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: I defy Cameron Ecker to say this is not a

542
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:35,400
great song.

543
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: We love you, Cameron. All right.

544
00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: We done with this one, guys, thanks, So yeah, all right,

545
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,440
We're onto the next song. This song is called Back

546
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,359
to the Rocking Horse.

547
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,319
Speaker 2: This is a definitely a toe tapper, a pencil tapper song.

548
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,839
That's great, great, great drunk track. This is easy to

549
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,160
listen to.

550
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:06,559
Speaker 4: For sure.

551
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: That cow bell is infectious.

552
00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:14,599
Speaker 3: Right, I got a feva, you got Cazi's guitars, You've

553
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,759
got that catchy chorus.

554
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: This is a level down.

555
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: From nothing but a good time, but it's still a fun,

556
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:21,599
good time rock and roll song.

557
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: I like that chorus where they kind of bring in

558
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:25,680
a little harmonization to it as well. They do that

559
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:28,680
on another song or two on this album too. I think, yep,

560
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,119
it's kind of fun. I'm with you.

561
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: I think that the line my parents think I'm crazy

562
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,039
and the doctor says I've cracked was kind of appealing

563
00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:37,839
to me as a fifteen year old. Sure, you know,

564
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,960
I think this is a great name for a podcast,

565
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:42,759
Back to the Rock and Horse, because that's what we

566
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,720
do here at the show that you Can't Be Serious podcast.

567
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:53,200
We go back in time to the time where we

568
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,119
didn't have any responsibility and all we had was time

569
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:56,839
and fun.

570
00:26:57,079 --> 00:27:00,039
Speaker 2: Back to the Rock and Horse. Okay, we're good, all right, good.

571
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 4: All right.

572
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: That brings us to the next song. That song is

573
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,200
called good Love.

574
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:18,759
Speaker 2: This is a good song. It's not my favorite one

575
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,839
on the album. I do like how they brought in

576
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,279
the harmonica there at the beginning. That's pretty unique to

577
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:23,759
this album.

578
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: It's like they invited Hugh Lewis on this album.

579
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: Right, It's not my favorite, but I still like it.

580
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:29,039
It's not a skipper.

581
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: I definitely think it's got that bluesy feel.

582
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:36,519
Speaker 2: It's more more aerosmith, almost like a southern rock feel.

583
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Brett Michaels who's playing the harmonica on this one.

584
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: This is kind of a hidden gym for me. I was.

585
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,759
I was pleased to hear them do this more bluesy sound.

586
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,559
I dig it.

587
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: It's a nice standard blues mix, and yeah, I agree

588
00:27:57,039 --> 00:27:58,920
that the harmonica coming in is pretty cool.

589
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: I heard Glover from Living Color talk about how hip hop, rock,

590
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,440
heavy metal all.

591
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: Has its roots and blues.

592
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting that you get Poison on one branch,

593
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,599
Living Color on another, and then Beastie Boys on another.

594
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,960
So okay, I've got some interesting medical history on Brett Michaels.

595
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: Okay.

596
00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: First of all, at age six, they found out that

597
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:24,559
he was insulin dependent diabetic.

598
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,839
Speaker 2: He said, at age six he was feeling really terrible.

599
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,680
He actually stayed in the hospital for three weeks.

600
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 3: Throughout his career, he has constantly given himself injections. He

601
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,359
even had to run off stage one time three songs

602
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,839
into a set, but listen to this. So in nineteen

603
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,920
ninety four, after a night of partying, Brett crashed his

604
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:44,480
Ferrari into a telephone pole, knocked out all of his

605
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:47,480
front teeth, messed up his face, broke his nose. In

606
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,519
two thousand and nine, he was hit over the head

607
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:51,880
with a prop while performing Nothing but a Good Time.

608
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:55,599
In twenty ten, had a whole bunch of pain, realized

609
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:59,599
that he needed to have an emergency appendectomy. From that appendectomy,

610
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,319
he had a blood clot that worked its way to

611
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,279
his brain, so he had a major brain hemorrhage that

612
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,160
almost killed him.

613
00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:07,799
Speaker 2: I remember that.

614
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,319
Speaker 3: I mean he was knocking on deak door, had to

615
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:14,359
have brain surgery, and then in twenty eleven they found

616
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,240
out he had a birth defect, had a hole in

617
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:19,160
his heart. It hasn't all been nothing but a good

618
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,279
time for Brett Michaels. Kind of an interesting medical history then, yeah,

619
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,440
all right, so now we are getting ready to talk

620
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:44,720
about the song Tearing down the Walls. Okay, guys, this

621
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:48,480
is my favorite of the non singers. Oh wow, yeah,

622
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:48,799
so I.

623
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: Love this song. We were talking earlier. You don't really

624
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:54,960
like this so much? It's not my favorite. I think

625
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,079
it starts out a little slow. Once you get to

626
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:00,039
the bridge through the chorus, I'm in yeah, but it

627
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,200
doesn't have the kickstart that some of these other songs

628
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,480
do on the album, so maybe I'm I'm spoiled by that.

629
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,319
Up to this point, it's a little more low key.

630
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:10,119
Speaker 1: I kind of I like the guitar riff at the beginning.

631
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,720
Inn At I dig that beginning, And then you were

632
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:16,440
saying that you like it where a bridge is into

633
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,440
the chorus, right, so let's listen to that here.

634
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: Street.

635
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: That's great. I like that too.

636
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,039
Speaker 3: I think my favorite is when they kind.

637
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: Of break it down and do the drums.

638
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,759
Speaker 1: It's very foursome sugar on Me style of you know,

639
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:48,119
you're just singing over that kicking drum beat. That's my

640
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,039
favorite parts. It's a cool little ditty that I'm surprised

641
00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:52,079
didn't come out as a single.

642
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,279
Speaker 3: Me too, right, This is the song that I used

643
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:58,680
to thump going to baseball practice from the high school

644
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,960
parking lot to the baseball field.

645
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. We just, for whatever reason, we love

646
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:02,880
this one.

647
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: When he says you're my silhouette, ecstasy like sex on

648
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:09,960
the beach. As a fifteen year old, we were like, heck, yeah, man,

649
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:13,640
sounds great. Sign me up, but drinking or doing I'm in.

650
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: There.

651
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,839
Speaker 4: You go right, turn.

652
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: Party time, rock and roll.

653
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: I hate to leave this one so early, but maybe

654
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,839
I'll just play it.

655
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:39,599
Speaker 2: A little longer when I do the edity process. Okay,

656
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,920
so that's the end of side one.

657
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: Hit stop on your tape player, kick it out, flip

658
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,359
it over side two and we start off with look

659
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:48,480
but you can't touch?

660
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:05,359
Speaker 2: All right. This is another one with a great, great

661
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,680
guitar intro. I love it. I love how it goes

662
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,920
from the opening riff to c C to drums to vocals.

663
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,559
How it just layers on that transition. I think it's fantastic.

664
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,440
This is a song about a girl. It tells Brett

665
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,839
Michael's note kind of a rare thing. I might have

666
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,839
to write a song about this.

667
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Am I remembering Rath that he had a reality show,

668
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,480
yes about him telling other girls know he did well

669
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,440
sort of back in two. I think I watched one

670
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,440
episode of that, and it was when it was down

671
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,000
to the last two and one of the two thought

672
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:52,599
the way to seal the victory for herself was to

673
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:55,680
open up and say, ah, if you will.

674
00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: I kind of thought all of them did that. Well,

675
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,119
it didn't work out, really, it did not. Did he

676
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:02,759
turned down?

677
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: Yes, he was, and so much as to say, well

678
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,519
I already know what's in this package. I'd like to

679
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:11,119
go see what's in that other package.

680
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: So one of them was a stripper. The final two

681
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:19,160
one was a stripper, one was more wholesome. I guess

682
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,599
you could say, uh huh. And there was all this discussion, wait, wait,

683
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:25,519
good girls go to heaven, bad girls go to hell. Yeah,

684
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,440
so there was a lot of talk amongst the girls.

685
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,400
I remember this because my wife and I watched this

686
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:34,839
series together and there was a lot of discussion about, Okay,

687
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,400
he's not gonna pick you because guess what the song

688
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Every Rose Has Its Thorn is about. It's about a

689
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,480
stripper who broke Brett's heart. Why would he pick you?

690
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:45,039
And so there was all this kind of cat fighting

691
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,079
going back and forth. Yeah, yeah, on who he was

692
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:49,599
going to pick anyway, was so you picked the good girl,

693
00:33:49,759 --> 00:34:05,640
he picked the good girl, and later the good girl

694
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,039
they it didn't work out, shock right right. The good

695
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:11,800
girl actually came back and said, you know what, Brett,

696
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,559
you should have picked the other one. You should have

697
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,840
picked her with her than you would have been with me.

698
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, So she did tell him though she did, yeah,

699
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:21,880
write a song about that.

700
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: I think this one could have been another single. I

701
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:30,039
don't know how the Tipper Gore faction would have thought

702
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:32,960
about this song and terms of its lyrics and its ideas,

703
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:34,800
but so I agree with you.

704
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 3: I think this could have been a single. It does

705
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,760
tell a story about the girl. You know. Look, but

706
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,800
you can't touch. The equivalent to this song from Look

707
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,360
What the Cat Dragged In to Me is I want action.

708
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,239
It's goofiness and it's fun, and it's about sex and

709
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,920
strippers and funny lyrics, crunch of guitars, killer guitar solo,

710
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:57,480
a lot of fun again, constantly rock and roll fun.

711
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,719
All right, onto the second song, Side two, huge song

712
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,159
from Summer nineteen eighty eight. This song is called Fallen Angel.

713
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: I've probably watched this video for the last few days.

714
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,559
I probably watched it twenty times.

715
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,119
Speaker 4: I love this video.

716
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: Okay, coolantastic?

717
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: All right?

718
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: Now what do you think?

719
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: Man?

720
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,119
Speaker 2: This is my favorite song on the entire album. What

721
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:33,639
I Spike in the Football.

722
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: For Me?

723
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:39,039
Speaker 2: Great guitar intro, again, I'm gonna take back what I

724
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:42,280
said earlier. This is my second favorite guitar intro for

725
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,519
Poison after Talk Dirty to Me. Wow, it's strong. It

726
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:49,440
is strong right again, they're going with the layering as

727
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:53,159
you know. It goes from intro guitar, drums, CC, and

728
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,480
then the vocals. It's fantastic. I like how they do

729
00:35:56,559 --> 00:35:59,239
the harmonizing in the chorus where they singing the word angel.

730
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,719
It's a fantastic guitar solo at the end by Stac

731
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,159
as well.

732
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 3: So you've got that great hook opening the song up,

733
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:25,800
You've got a fantastic chorus. The song tells the story.

734
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,119
It's mature songwriting. Cec kills it with the guitar solo.

735
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,360
If it were not for the absolute next level of

736
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,400
another song we're going to talk about here in a minute,

737
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:37,039
this would be the best song on the album.

738
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 4: Okay.

739
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:41,039
Speaker 3: So I absolutely love this song and for me lyrically,

740
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,480
this is their most mature works on the album. This

741
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:47,079
song was their second single, made it all the way

742
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,400
to number twelve correct number twelve on the Billboard Hot

743
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,199
one hundred. Now then I've got a list for you.

744
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,239
I just want to pop this off really quick. The

745
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,000
eleven songs that are better than this. Don't Be Cruel

746
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,880
by Bobby Brown, Please Don't Go Girl by the New

747
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,440
Kids on the Block, Not a Chance right, What's on

748
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:07,280
your Mind by The Information Society.

749
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: Good song.

750
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: I Hate Myself for Loving You by Jone Jet That's

751
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,280
a winner. I'll Always Love You by Taylor Dane Ouch,

752
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,360
Groovy Kindle Love One Good Woman by Peter Setara, Don't

753
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,079
Be Cruel by Cheap Trick. We got two Don't Be

754
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:26,400
cruels ahead of this. Don't Worry, Be Happy, red red Wine,

755
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:28,679
and Love Bites. This was the week that Love Bites

756
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,320
hit number one.

757
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:32,599
Speaker 1: Red Wine is on my Doug Gray list of I'm

758
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,199
Gonna Pull My Ears Off a terrible song.

759
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,199
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, we got to talk about the video.

760
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,960
The acting at the beginning is awful. So you have

761
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:47,480
this girl named Susie Hatton who was a singer, songwriter, actress,

762
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:51,440
Brett's girlfriend. Brett's girlfriend. She's the fallen Angel and at

763
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,920
the beginning she's like, Dad, I got something I want

764
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,199
to tell you.

765
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: What else it? Honey?

766
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:59,039
Speaker 3: Dad, I'm moving to California and I want to leave tonight.

767
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:03,320
Oh no, And he looks over and Mom's overacting to

768
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,119
the fullest.

769
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 7: Dad, there's something I want to talk to you about, true, Ronnie,

770
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,400
what is it?

771
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 5: Well, I've decided to move.

772
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,079
Speaker 3: Move where to California?

773
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:18,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's bad acting.

774
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: So you got Anthony James in this, he's her handler.

775
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got it. I've got info on Anthony James. Ny,

776
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,719
let's have it. Okay. So you pointed out to us

777
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,960
earlier in the week that he was in Naked Gun

778
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,480
two and a half.

779
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: He's getting ready to assassinate Priscilla Presley while she's in

780
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:34,679
the shower.

781
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Right, and he starts singing the way we were. Yes,

782
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,480
he was also, all right, the proprietor of the saloon

783
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,239
slash billiard establishment and unforgiven how about that skinny And

784
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:50,519
unfortunately he's no longer with this. He died in twenty twenty.

785
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,400
He was aged seventy seventy died of cancer. But yeah,

786
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:56,480
very recognizable face. If you saw it, you'd be like, oh, yeah,

787
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:57,079
that's that guy.

788
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is a definite that guy.

789
00:38:59,159 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing.

790
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: When he's dragging the Fallen Angel, you know, she leaves

791
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,199
the dinner party, goes out to grab her, kind of

792
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,920
roughs her up a little bit. She kicks him in

793
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,519
the balls, I mean it's three stooges like performance.

794
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: Grabs his nuts, falls over.

795
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: And then of course she gets on Brett's Hollywood taxi.

796
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,119
Speaker 5: Job, puts him on the hill.

797
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 4: Whirl right.

798
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 2: So you have to look really quickly because it's a

799
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,519
very quick shot of the gas tank on his Harley Davidson.

800
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:44,920
It's a heritage soft tail Harley Davidson motorcycle. Okay, painted yellow.

801
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:48,880
It's got some black and white checkering stripes, which typical

802
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,840
of the taxi cabs of the day. Yes, so Brett

803
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,760
rolls up in this thing. It also makes appearances in

804
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,639
other poison videos Unskinny Bop and also ride the wind

805
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,920
both off of flesh and ble. Yeah, this particular motorcycle

806
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,000
is not on the road anymore. I can see it

807
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,679
if you want to interesting. Okay, we're gonna go to Mexico. Yeah, okay,

808
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:16,920
We're gonna go to a town. And so there's a

809
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:21,480
town on the Yucatan peninsula. It's called Puerto Aventuris. Yeah,

810
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,920
I've been to Puerto Aventurists before. We did not stay

811
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,639
at this particular hotel, which is a hard rock riviera.

812
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,559
They have a suite there called the Bret Michaels Rockstar Suite. Wow,

813
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,840
get out of here. Inside the suite I sent you

814
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,119
guys a picture of it earlier this week. There is

815
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,320
a glass encasement inside this suite that has the Hollywood

816
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,480
Taxi nice. Hanging next to it is the guitar from

817
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,000
the video for Every Rose Has Its Thorn that Brett

818
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,760
is playing at the beginning. They get me acoustic guitar

819
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,719
he's playing at the beginning. It's hanging right next to it.

820
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,719
I called this hotel to see if they could talk

821
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,960
to me about it. I was asking about Ray. Yes,

822
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,079
they didn't really want to tell me. I think it's

823
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:06,960
one of those suits where if you have to ask

824
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:10,199
how much it is, you can't afford it. Yeah, it's

825
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:14,519
nine thousand square feet. Oh my gosh, has its own gym.

826
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,719
It's got a beautiful veranda looks out over the Gulf

827
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,719
of Mexico. So you and your significant other, your girlfriend

828
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,039
wife can go there and stand in front of this

829
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,039
big glass encasement and do whatever you want to do

830
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:27,599
in the privacy of your own hotel room.

831
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 3: All right, Shirley fans, The challenge is, can you send

832
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,159
the three of us to the hard rock Riviera. I'm

833
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:37,280
just kidding that that would be awesome. I'd love to

834
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,199
stay in there and see the Hollywood taxi.

835
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you fly to Cancu, you drive south on I

836
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,800
think it's Highway three oh seven there, right right along

837
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,239
the coast.

838
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,519
Speaker 1: So this video Fallen Angel. The director had directed a

839
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:54,400
video right before this video called Angel the Band, and

840
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:59,320
he was hot off of a three set of videos

841
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,960
that he had done for a band that we've covered

842
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:06,800
and is probably responsible for making sure that this band

843
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,920
was a success. Okay, this singer had his girlfriend in

844
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,960
the video and showed up with his Jaguire that wouldn't run.

845
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:17,039
Speaker 2: You got it?

846
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,119
Speaker 1: White Snake, You got it? Marty Colner, Yeah, I'm responsible

847
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:26,039
for HBO and It's success. Who's responsible for a ton

848
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:26,960
of videos.

849
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,039
Speaker 2: And this was early on in his video career.

850
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: Had just finished up doing his White Snake run and

851
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,679
started hit Scorpions, hit Aerosmith, and here we are with

852
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:38,840
Fallen Angel.

853
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: His first video for Poison.

854
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:43,559
Speaker 1: He would go on to do Every Rose has Its Thorn,

855
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,440
Unskinny Bop and something to Believe It.

856
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:50,199
Speaker 3: I just listened to our episode on get a grip

857
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,360
on Aerosmith and he did the Crazy video and he

858
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:57,039
was the guy responsible for bringing liv Tyler in. Hey Steven,

859
00:42:57,079 --> 00:42:58,760
I want your daughter to be a stripper in this video.

860
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: Is that cool? So how about that? There you go? Okay?

861
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,679
Speaker 3: Now, then we've done with Fallen Angel, Yes, because we

862
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,159
were about to embark on what D says is the

863
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,239
greatest rock ballad of the nineteen eighties, stand by it.

864
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:16,760
This song is called every Rose Has Its Thorn.

865
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:40,519
Speaker 2: That's great. I can name that song in one side.

866
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: So we talked about the song when we did our

867
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,280
best of nineteen eighties we did. You said it starts

868
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,679
with a sigh and was inspired by a cough.

869
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: That's right.

870
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,559
Speaker 1: And you mentioned a little bit earlier dating a stripper,

871
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,079
and it was a guy in the stripper's bedroom that

872
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:59,320
Brett Michaels overheard on the phone as he was calling

873
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,280
per to to see what was up, and he was

874
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,079
realized we both got.

875
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: To go our separate way.

876
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:08,159
Speaker 3: Why is there a guy in your bedroom at three

877
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:09,039
o'clock in the morning.

878
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: He was in a laundromat in Dallas, Texas. That's right, yeah,

879
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,400
my town. Yes, or he made that phone call.

880
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,679
Speaker 3: Uh huh right after a set at a country bar.

881
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this song.

882
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: First radio station to play this song was a country station,

883
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,800
and we talked about in our Best of eighty eight episode.

884
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,719
It topped the rock charts, it topped the Hot one hundred,

885
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,039
and it topped the country charts, and He's crazy.

886
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,599
Speaker 3: It was the last number one song of nineteen eighty

887
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:39,159
eight and the first number one song of nineteen eighty nine,

888
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,920
their only number one hit. And you were talking about

889
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:45,159
his girlfriend, Tracy Lewis. Yes, I heard Brett talk about this.

890
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,480
I listened to his story today.

891
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: He called back. She answered the phone.

892
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,159
Speaker 3: She's acting sleepy, trying to dump him on the phone,

893
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,320
like I can't talk right now.

894
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,079
Speaker 2: I'm really tired. Call me tomorrow.

895
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: And he hears a in the background and it was

896
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,159
a mail cough and that at that moment, his heartbreaks,

897
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:04,800
and I want it.

898
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:23,559
Speaker 4: Soon be here right now, every road as it's dull, and.

899
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: I think it's so cool that you have rockstar guy

900
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:29,960
can have any girl in the world, still manages to

901
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,960
get his heartbroken. We can all relate. And that relationship

902
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:35,840
he said they were they went everywhere together and they

903
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,480
were best friends and then all of a sudden.

904
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,079
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's the theme song of the song.

905
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 4: Right.

906
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:47,079
Speaker 2: You can have all these things as a rock star, girls, money, drugs, whatever, right,

907
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,480
but there's always something that can that can hit you,

908
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:52,320
that can prick you like a like a like a like.

909
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 3: That's all right, that's funny.

910
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: We'll leave it in. By the way.

911
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: Tracy Lewis is her name. She's an exact dancer. They

912
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:14,119
dated from eighty four to eighty seven. She was sixteen

913
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:17,239
when they started seeing each other, and rumor is that

914
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,159
she was with another band member from the La Strip

915
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,239
scene at that moment, and that Brett knew him personally,

916
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,400
but he has never released his Name's got an idea, yeah,

917
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:30,639
and Steel, I mean it could be Vince Steel, right,

918
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,039
maybe definitely possible.

919
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: You and I both had this in our top five

920
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,559
of eighty.

921
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: Eight, and you still turn up the radio when it

922
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,679
comes on. This is in that pour some Sugar on

923
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,760
Me category. It does not get old.

924
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 3: I told you that when I when I had the tape,

925
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,280
it said had a little sticker on it says contains

926
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,760
the hits nothing but a good time, fallen Angel and

927
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,119
every Rose has its Thorn. And I remember when I

928
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:55,559
got that tape, I was like, how did they.

929
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: Know that it's going to be a hit.

930
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,639
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're calling their shot with that one.

931
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:03,239
But it's interesting because the record company did not want

932
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,719
to release this song. They said it's too cowboy, it's

933
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,920
too slow, it's not poison, and Brett was like, no,

934
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,480
I believe in this song. We need to release it.

935
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,400
We've played it live, it works live, and the guys

936
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,679
in the band back him up on it. And I

937
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,039
think he has mentioned that Ceci wasn't really a big

938
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:24,199
fan of the song initially, but stood up for Brett,

939
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:27,000
stood up to the record company, and they agreed to

940
00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:28,079
release it as the.

941
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,599
Speaker 2: Third single I'm bringing. Brett's an emotional guy. He poured

942
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:35,519
his feelings out in Something to Believe in Flesh and

943
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:36,840
Blae on the Flesh. Yeah.

944
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,039
Speaker 4: Yeah.

945
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:38,679
Speaker 2: There's a couple of things in the video I want

946
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,159
to point out.

947
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 3: Okay, First of all, Bobby Doll looks like he's about

948
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,880
to die in the video.

949
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:45,639
Speaker 2: Oh He's like passing out.

950
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like haul of his dead bones off

951
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:51,760
the stage. Yeah, And every time I see that, I'm like,

952
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,199
what what what happened there?

953
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: How he lived through nineties? Seriously? Yeah?

954
00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:01,199
Speaker 3: And also there is a shot where Brett is throwing

955
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,880
a towel at somebody as he's walking off stage, and

956
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,159
you see this kind of big samoan looking fellow next

957
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:07,440
to him.

958
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah that's his bodyguard. Yeah, that's the guy who died.

959
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: Correct, And Something to Believe In was written about that guy?

960
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,559
Speaker 2: How about that Ceci's sad guitars in This gets me

961
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:19,519
every time. Yeah.

962
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: It's not speed metal. It doesn't need to be speed metal.

963
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:26,719
It is soulful, beautiful, hits you right in the fields.

964
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:27,679
Speaker 3: Song about getting dumped.

965
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, been there, done that all right? Now, then that

966
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:50,079
brings us to the song your Mama Don't Dance, Your.

967
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 5: Mamma Don't Dance and Your Dad and a rock.

968
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: I think this song maybe more than any Earth, at

969
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,559
least as much as any on the on the album

970
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:01,639
showcases CCS talents right from the beginning.

971
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a cover of an old Loginson Messina song.

972
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:07,079
We talked about Kenny Loggins a little bit when we

973
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:10,280
did our Footloose episode as well as our Top Gun episode.

974
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 3: That's right, and his.

975
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: Relationship with Messina and how they kind of fed off

976
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,840
of each other. But you're right when the intro sounds

977
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,000
very similar, little you know, a little heavier on the

978
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,360
guitar at the intro, but then Ceci comes in with

979
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,559
that lead and you're like, oh no, this is poison.

980
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:26,920
This is not the folk rock of Loginson Messina. This

981
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,800
is glam rock that we love.

982
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: From the eighties.

983
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: You know, when we did use your Illusion one with

984
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,320
Guns N' Roses, they did a cover of Live and

985
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,599
Let Die, And I remember at the time Slash and

986
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:41,719
Axel were listening to old songs that they could cover

987
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,280
that they thought sounded like hard rock songs that needed

988
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,599
to come out, And I think the same thing here,

989
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,400
Like when I listened to the original version of this,

990
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:53,079
I'm like, it's kind of a bluesy rocky song, but

991
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:55,559
it's a hard rock song waiting to be born again,

992
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:55,760
you know.

993
00:49:56,119 --> 00:50:05,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, they say that you got it, You're out, you

994
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:06,199
bring it on.

995
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: Late Big from nineteen seventy three. This one actually got

996
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,760
to number ten, So I wanted to talk about that.

997
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,519
This is the fourth single reach number ten in April

998
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:23,679
of eighty nine. Now, I won't read through the songs

999
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,000
that are that are better than this song, but I

1000
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:28,679
did want to point out something to you. In this

1001
00:50:29,039 --> 00:50:32,039
top sixteen, there's a song that we talked about before

1002
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:34,199
called Room to Move by an Emotion.

1003
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 5: That song, well, that song.

1004
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 2: Lead singer on that song.

1005
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: Cynthia Rhodes, Star from Dirty Dancing from His Penny Wow. Yeah,

1006
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,960
that was when that song peaked.

1007
00:50:57,679 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: Out on the chart. Also star of the Rosanna video.

1008
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely one hundred percent. That does not have Patrick Swayze.

1009
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:11,400
Patrick Swayze, I'm not sure about great song love It Fun,

1010
00:51:11,679 --> 00:51:12,400
good Time.

1011
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 2: Again.

1012
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: They took a song that was just kind of bluesy

1013
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,639
rock it turned it into a great pop rock song.

1014
00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: Alright.

1015
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: That brings us to the last song on the album.

1016
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,079
This song is called bad to Be Good.

1017
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 4: Walk as.

1018
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: The Okay, So this one's really a showcasing Bobby Doll

1019
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,039
at the beginning.

1020
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: It's nice bass riff coming in here. It's strong.

1021
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:13,159
Speaker 1: You don't see him coming out as kind of the

1022
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,199
showcase in any of these other songs, but it really

1023
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,199
he comes out in the song.

1024
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,199
Speaker 2: I think it's a great job. I like the song.

1025
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,960
It's not my favorite on the album, but not a skipper.

1026
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:23,519
I think it's a good I think it's a good song.

1027
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:26,039
Speaker 3: This is the only song on the album that I skipped. Wow,

1028
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,880
this is the only one and it's not because it's

1029
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,679
not a terrible song. It's just I'm ready to get

1030
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:30,679
back to love on the rocks.

1031
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: That was awesome.

1032
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:36,039
Speaker 1: Before we like completely leave the album, I wanted to

1033
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:38,760
show you guys something, so I grabbed this picture off

1034
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,320
of a video. This is this is CC's guitar and

1035
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,159
you see that it's a little fuzzy, but can you

1036
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:43,800
see that face?

1037
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,039
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, might remind you of anything? No, which guy?

1038
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's buy an artist named Patrick Nagel and

1039
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,480
we've talked about him before.

1040
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: Yes, the Deuranderan Rio cover.

1041
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: So CEC has a guitar that has the same artist

1042
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,800
that had created the cover for the Rio album. Same

1043
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,239
artists created the face that is on his guitar.

1044
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 3: Awesome, all right, So that wraps up the album. Let's

1045
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:07,800
talk reception real.

1046
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: Quick, okay, okay, Yeah, so I found something on this

1047
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:13,840
Rolling Stone Magazine nineteen eighty eight review. Let me just

1048
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,119
read you the first paragraph. We'll see where it goes

1049
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:18,519
from there. The sole positive attribute of Open Up and

1050
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:21,119
Say ah is that it very neatly illustrates the folly

1051
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,480
of banning album artwork. When the first pressing of AHWA

1052
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:27,800
Shift the hanchos at Walmart took one look at its

1053
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,000
grotesque cover featuring a hellion and tiger stripe makeup with

1054
00:53:31,159 --> 00:53:33,800
an ob sanely long tongue, and refused to stock it

1055
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:37,079
on their pristine racks and act carried out in finest.

1056
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,920
Save the children to tradition the sole positive attribute of

1057
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,320
this album. Yeah, Wow, Rolling Stone was not a fan.

1058
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,639
I don't care what they say. This is a pop

1059
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,280
rock masterpiece. I agree. We're fifteen years old. You and

1060
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,400
I are fifteen at the time. I think you're probably twelve.

1061
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,840
D Yeah, this was a fantastic album for the teenager. Yeah. Right,

1062
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,480
Is this going to change the world?

1063
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 5: No?

1064
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,559
Speaker 2: Is this gonna make people think?

1065
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:04,159
Speaker 1: No?

1066
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: Is this gonna make people have a good time?

1067
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:07,519
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1068
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

1069
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is these guys were hanging on

1070
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:15,360
to the glam still. I mean, you'd gone through with

1071
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,239
the seventies glam rock, You've gone through it with Kiss.

1072
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,920
Motley Crue brought it back in by this time. He

1073
00:54:21,159 --> 00:54:23,440
By this time Motley Cruz started to take off their

1074
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:26,280
makeup and drive their motorcycles with the stubble to the

1075
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,400
strip club. But these guys are still hanging on to

1076
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:35,199
the glam and for the MTV generation, the pop metal guys.

1077
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,039
Speaker 2: It is a definite hit.

1078
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 4: I love it.

1079
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is literally nothing but a good time. Like

1080
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,480
we're gonna talk later with the album that we're going

1081
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:46,320
to compare to. This album is the album by Living

1082
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,159
Color called Vivid, and it is not necessarily nothing but

1083
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:51,719
a good time.

1084
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,159
Speaker 3: It is.

1085
00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: It is much much more than that. But the question

1086
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,079
is at the end of it all, are we going

1087
00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:00,199
to grab the one that makes us feel good? Well,

1088
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:01,480
we're going to grab the one.

1089
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,199
Speaker 3: That well, we'll just see how Vivid makes us feel right,

1090
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,920
absolutely all right. We'll come back next week when we

1091
00:55:08,039 --> 00:55:11,760
break down Vivid track by track by Living Color.

1092
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,159
Speaker 2: See you guys then, Dale, thanks so much for joining us. Dale,

1093
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,119
good to see you, buddy. Thank you for being here,

1094
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:18,920
man for inviting me. Appreciate it. I had a lot

1095
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,159
of fun. We will see you guys next week.