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Speaker 1: What's up. Welcome to the hold on. Let me turn

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the we turned Smoky Soul Town. Let me turn Smoky

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Soultown down. I got this serious, ex tim Fuck, what

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is this? I've just entered Mexico. What is this forty?

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Is it telling me to get on? What a pain

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in the ass the fucking streets across the border. You

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get into beautiful Rainosa with the confetti like garbage all

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over the side of the road, and uh, and then

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the roads just go haywire. There's like nine I gotta

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pay attention to where I'm going. Oh look it's Clematis

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Tramundi right on the side of the road there right now.

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The border pisces me off. It's so you know, it

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doesn't have to be like this, but it is a

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militarized border. Anyway. Welcome to another episode of the Crime

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Pays It pot and he doesn't podcast. That's a mangled

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guard rail. Uh fuck, I'm driving to and away. I'm

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driving to Monterey, Monterrey, and uh in the way, we'll

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lay on. I'm giving a presentation at the Universe of Dad.

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The Universa dot over there and Club de Puyos the

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Chicken Club, and it should be fun. You know. It's

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the first time I've had like an actual couple hours

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to sit down and focus enough to do a podcast.

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I got invited to South Texas Comic Con last weekend.

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I don't know why. It's a little bit different of

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an audience than I'm used to, you know, the full

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grown adult and superhero costume thing, but it was cool.

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It's like a different kind of nerd from science nerds,

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and sometimes they overlap on the vent diagram. Damn. You know,

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I should have started this podcast like ten minutes from now,

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because it's traffic's a little hectic. Look, it's no trees

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and a dusty road filled with billboards and fucking commercial detritus.

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It's not the prettiest landscape I've seen. But you get

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south of Rainosa and it really, like I said, really

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brightens up. I said, Wow, you get undulating hills full

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of Helieta the barreta as it's called citrus family root

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tasting such a wonderful plant. Mike Heap just germinated some

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from seed in his nursery, and that's a plant I'd

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really love to get into cultivation, and like so many

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plants in South Texas, it's much more abundant south of

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the border, and it seems to do better south of

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the border, where it grows at higher elevations, because most

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of Mexico is above three or four thousand feet, and

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South Texas is hotter than most places in Mexico unless

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they're like on the coast. So anyway, but you know,

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it should be a good time. My Spanish isn't perfect,

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but apparently a lot of students at the university speak

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English because they're better than most Americans. You know, we're

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unilinguistic monoly linguistic here. But yeah, So anyway, Comic count

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was fun and they gave me free passes, so I

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got to like walk around and lurk and look at stuff.

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It's an odd crowded times, not gonna lie, but it

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was also cool. And I brought my daughter and she

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loves Spider Man, which is great. You know, I'm glad

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she's into Spider Man and not you know, a bunch

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of like weird princess shit. Not that they would be wrong,

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but I'm just saying I don't like how society in

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doctrinates women to be you know, helpless and weak and

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fixated on being pretty and uh, you know, it's kind

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of cool that she's uh, you know, at least in

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this regard defying that. We also fight a lot. We

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wrestle a lot. I have her put on the boxing

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gloves and beat me repeatedly. I got some muy type pads.

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She you know, she she throws fists at the muy

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type pads, teaching her how to punch, and I it's good.

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They got her enrolled in jiu jitsu and shit anyway,

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So but she had fun and she got to meet

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Spider Man too. There was some dude dressed up as

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Spider Man. He had like the David Bowie package thing

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going on. You know, I ever see David Bowie's package

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in the Labyrinth, you know, when he's wearing those tights.

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Spider Man had the same thing. It was like it

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was there was no obvious I don't know if the

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dude was wearing a jockstripp or some but I appreciated

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it because it wasn't an obvious. There wasn't an obvious. Uh.

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I mean, there was a package there, but it wasn't

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you know, it wasn't the you know what I mean,

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kids safe and so you know, and the dude was

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fit too, so it actually looked like Spider Man. You know.

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you know, it could be hard to find a fit

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person in the valley, right, you get like a bully.

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comic books and whatnotod He's saying, yeah, really cool, and

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it's kind of fucked up anyway, So we uh we

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did that. And then I didn't think there would be

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anybody at the At the event, it was like a

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little creator stage thing. It was next to a room

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with a bunch of dudes wrestling in it, you know,

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like WWF style. They had the race and everything. I'm

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telling you, Comic Con in South Texas gets wild, man

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because it's so fucking hot. It's too hot to go

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outside a lot of the time. I mean, I still

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do it, but at least during the daylight hours. For

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ten months out of the year, you shouldn't go outside

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because you just sweat constantly. It's it's like it's it's

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way more uncomfortable than southern Arizona. And uh and so

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being that it's you know, its bread kind of an

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indoor culture, and so the gaming and comic book thing

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is really big here. And as someone who used to

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be a purveyor of comic books when I was ten

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or eleven, I actually worked at a comic book shop

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shout out, shout out to Comics Galore in Lagrange, and

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the dude would pay me in comics. It was like

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totally child labor. I was like eleven years old with

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like put comic books in sleeves and then he would

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pay me in comics. But it was cool because it

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gave me a sense of purpose, you know, much like

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mowing launch does for you know, middle aged suburban men,

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but you know, putting comic books and plastic sleeves is cooler.

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my first job, and I was really into X Men

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in Spider Man and all the Marvel comic shit. And

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then that was before I got into punk rock. When

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I got into punk rock, things change the punk rock

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and vandalism and graffiti, then you know, kind of moved

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to that, but it was a definite precursor and I

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liked the art and I liked you know, I wouldn't

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really might didn't have the attention span at eleven to

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sit and read an entire comic book. But I would

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read sections and then flip through them and collect them

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and look at the pictures. And I had a bunch

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of like the Marvel superheroes trading cards. Uh so, so

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around that culture a little bit, the comic book culture,

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the nerd culture, a different kind of nerd. So that

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was cool. And then Sunday we had this last Sunday

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we had off, we got someone fucking get off my

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ass and buck past. We had someone tailing Uh excuse me,

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someone's tailing me. I wasn't going fast enough. I'm rubber

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neck in the plant life Mexico. Like I always say, this,

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Mexico's land is in such better shape once you get

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out of the cities. It's in such better like it's

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just not developed. There's they haven't like desecrated it with

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BUCkies and gas stations and pawn shops and dollar generals.

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day for this. These biking trails near the town I

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lived in Mission, Texas, and there was you know, these

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biking trails. It used to be a city dump. There's

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like mountain bike trails there, which can you know, the

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mountain bikers can be annoying, but they can also be

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cool because sometimes those guys end up getting into plants,

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and they also care about the trails as well. Every

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once in a while you get some destruction happening if

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they're cutting a new trail or not. But they generally

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appreciate being outside. And I appreciate that they appreciate being

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outside because again, we got this indoor culture down here

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because of the heat and the lack of pedestrian and

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bicycle structure. So only two hours and twenty minutes to

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the way will Layonne. So anyway, so I've been going

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to the spot for a while and there's you know,

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there's occasionally rattlesnakes there. It's an old city dump, but

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it's been reclaimed by native plants. The only invasives are

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the buffalo grass and the guinea grass, both highly invasive

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African grasses brought in by ranchers. I'm sure they are

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like essential plants in Africa, that's like essential forage plants

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for all the cool African wildlife, but here they're a

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fucking scourge and they smother plant and they just create

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these monocultures of shit. Like the misky will they'll grow

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underneath the misky, the guinea grass will, especially buffalo grass

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is not shade tolerant. Guinea grass is. Guinea grass has

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a branching inflorescence, and then buffalo grass has an inflorescence

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penictum that looks like a little pipe cleaner. Like it

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doesn't branch, it's just the raceme of little flowers all

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clustered together. It looks like literally like a like a

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brush or a pipe cleaner of some kind. And they

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both sucked. They're both highly vigorous grasses that outcompete all

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the cool native cacti and other plants that we get.

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So we went in. I was like, you know, I

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was there one day and I was like, man, it'd

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be so easy to just weed whack this shit because

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it all died during the drought or it died back

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to the roots. Be so easy to weed whack this shit.

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Oh there's the Pemes plant and everyone's just parked out

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on the median. Oh, Pemes, let's just shut out the pemes.

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Is it the gas? Oh you look, they got a guess.

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It's a guess. Okay. Anyway, so tons of cordia bus

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the era everywhere to the Mexican Oli. Another Mexican plant

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that put in. They produce a big I dug some

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up that it volunteered in a vacant lot near my house.

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and so I dug them up, cut the leaves off,

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potted them up, and then they just form new leaves

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and they get going. So I've got more trees for

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gorilla planting. I also got permission to plant in front

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of the Junior High, the local Junior High too. It

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should be good. So I'm sure the city will hate

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it because the city of Mission is backwards. It's like

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total nineteen fifties. You know, they still love mowing and

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kind of hate nature, and you know it's a it's depressing.

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change slowly. So anyway, we got a bunch of people.

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I just put some out on social media. It's like, man,

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anybody who's local, come down. We'll weed whack the shit

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out of this buffalo guinea grass. I'll get a I'll

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pay for a dumpload of mulch. Really got to find

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a hookup for some free mulch. Yes, I've tried chip drop.

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It doesn't work done here. Yes, I've called the tree companies.

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It's hit or miss. It's really really hard to get

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woodchips down here. But the woodchips are essential because they'll

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suppress any of the weed seeds like the buffalo grass

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and guinea grass seeds that are surely built up in

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the soil. Seed make and so will weed wag it

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will if we have some cardboard. I normally don't do

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the cardboard thing if it's like a private yard, but

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in this case it makes sense to throw cardboard down

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because we're not gonna be able to get out there

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and do maintenance as much as you know. If it's

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someone's front yard, they can just go pull grass whenever,

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but they can quickly get out of hand if fits

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at a spot that you're not visiting more than once

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a week. So anyway, throw some cardboard down through the

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mulch on top of it, and then start planting some

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of the native shrubs that do well like the legumes that,

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you know, build up a deep tap root system first

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Sceniso lucophylum for testens, a plant you know, commonly called

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Texas stage, even though it's got no relation to stage.

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Can I beat this fucking oil taker to this lane closure? Yeah?

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Are you go fuck off to the fuck up anyway?

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Uh so? Uh yeah? So? And we did it in

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like two hours. We had the twenty people working on there.

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Two hours. We fixed it up and made it look

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real nice. Lined the borders with misguait logs, cut back

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all the buffalo there's a bunch of the misquiite branches.

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We cut those back, use them as borders, you know,

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to keep dogs out of the out of the from

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pissing on the plants. And you know, hopefully nobody vandalizes anything.

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and cruelty. But hopefully it doesn't happen, and and it'll

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create a real nice place to go. But for me,

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the selfish benefit for me is that now maybe people

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might see what we're doing, People who are passing by,

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like someone who's just going there to you know, lose

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a couple of pounds going to run or you know,

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some of the mountain bikers, and they'll start paying attention

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to the native plants, which and that's what I want.

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That's why it's fucking selfish. I want more people to

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know what these are and appreciate them and uh and

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appreciate what they got, you know. And there's there's fucking

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tortoises here. There's diamondbags, there's indigo snakes. There's all kinds

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of cool shit right at this spot. So we'll be

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you know, and none of those things can really use

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the buffalo grass, so we're creating more habitat for them

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to the tortoises eat buffal I'm curious about that. Maybe

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they maybe they'll eat a little bit of buffle. I

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know they like a lot of the malvacious things. You know,

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we get a lot of members of Malvasi, the Malvoidi

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subfamily specifically, that are ruteral plants here that are native

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weeds that just show up like melvas from americanum and

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some of the small butilans and stuff. And I know

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the tortoises like those, so you know, I always need

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more tortoises. I was out at tord Scrub two days

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ago free to have Alena from a pig trip. Thank

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God I didn't see him on the trap camera. The

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trap camera didn't go off, didn't let me know that

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he was in there. And uh, I walked up to

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the pig trip up and the poor little bastard was

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in there. I would have felt terrible killing a havelena

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because they can die from the heat. So but he

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was okay. So I got on top of the trap

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and let the thing out. He was really pissed off.

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He was charging the trap and have Alena's make these

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cute little noises with their teeth, this clicking sound. And

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they could fuck you up too. They've got sharp teeth

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and they'll charge you if you're too close. But I

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was on top of the trap. I opened it and

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told Louis to get back, and he just you know,

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took him a while to figure out that the door

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was open, and I wasn't gonna fuck with him, but

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he eventually jetted out of there. So and then the pigs,

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just the pigs, you know, we got another trap. We

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got two or three traps of torn scrub. Now the

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pigs weren't going in one. They were digging under it

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and they're smart. I need like a remote control AR fifteen,

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you know, and like a baited feeding station. That's really

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the thing to do because the pigs can smell you,

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you know, or like a land mine, maybe like a

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baited you know, a land mine you can remote control

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it will just blow it, blow it up or something.

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It's amazing the damage they do. I don't I know,

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I don't need to say it, but it looks like

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land mines go off where they've blown or where they uh,

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where the pigs show up. So uh but anyway, so

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we're free to have Lena from a trap. And then

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I saw like three or four tortoises in a span

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of fifteen minutes. They always come out at dusk. They

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don't come out during the heat of the day. God,

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they're so fucking cute. Man. It's it'saw like a juvenile

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and a three adults. No diamondbacks, which I expected would

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be out too, but none. And then you know, there

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was still a We still took it. We're still taking

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a hit from the drought. Like stuff is not recovering

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as quickly as possible. But again, it's amazing everything that

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just you know, it looks like it's dead like Lipia oregonoides,

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the Mexican oregano they call it. It's a verbon ac

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member of urbon ac. It's a shrub. Smells incredible, really

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drought tolerant too, Like it's definitely the plant like if

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you plant it in a native garden, it needs full sun,

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full heat, and you water it very sparingly, like only

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when the soil is bone dry. But that you know,

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we've got that on our at thorn scrub. It's pretty abundant.

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And I thought they had just died from the drought.

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I mean, there's a lot of drought deciduous stuff that

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will come back, but I thought these had died from

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the drought and they would re sprout from the base.

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But instead it's they were re sprouting from the woody.

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The woody shoots like two feet off the ground, which

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was cool. So it was still at these It never

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ceases to amaze me how robust and adapted these plants are,

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right because I mean, resprouting from the ground is one tactic.

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It's like an herbaceous perennial, you know, just like Illinois

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prairie plants. But when you can re sprout from the

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shoots way up top. You don't have to invest reinvest

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all that energy into building woody branches and getting yourself

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off the ground. So you know, obviously is a lot

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more beneficial just re sprout from the shoots. And they

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could do it, like so many of these plants can't.

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Karwinsky it does it too. And these are mostly Mexican plants, right,

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this is just the northern end of their range. I

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can never stress enough how ridiculous geopolitical borders are in

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the great span of time. I mean, even you look

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at using the Rio Grande as a border, it's fucking

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stupid because then you look at the you look at

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a satellite map of where the river is now, and

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you could see it changes course every hundred years. There's

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where soakas and Oxbow Lakes everywhere. You know, it's not

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a solid border, It'll change, it changes all the time.

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It's a bunch of squiggly lines and old river channels.

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So what are they doing here? They're doing some construction project.

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And the way we'll I own, I think I'm in

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time Alepis now. It's just as fucked for construction as

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Texas is. Somebody's getting paid, somebody's getting contract there's probably

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a cartel operated enterprise too, road construction. Why wouldn't they

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go into it. It's a wonderful cartel's everywhere. It's in

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the construction business, agriculture, farming. You know. The least of

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what they do is drugs. But anyway, yeah, so, uh,

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there's a fucked up power land. I think filled on

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what happened. Oh somebody must have hit it. I think

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somebody backed up into it with the backo. Yeah, it's

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all right, No mane hit concata. Don't drift tired, don't

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just don't do it right. Not me. I've got a

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fucking leader, a green tea in my lab. I don't

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have to take a league soon, which is hard when

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the quota's got no shoulder. So uh anyway, but yeah,

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so I was out of thorn scrub and the tortoises

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were all out free to hobby from a trap. Went

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and checked. There's not been any pig activity in the

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last few days. We got one or two left to get.

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I get all these people hitting me up asking if

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they can hunt, and it's like, man, it doesn't really

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make sense. It's not our property. It's you know, you

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might be waiting out there for four days until you

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see a pig, and if they smell you, they're certainly

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not gonna come around. We need like pro hunters with

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thermal scopes and probably dogs. You hunt them with dogs.

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It's brutal, it's not pretty, but these are a highly

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invasive species. Wow, there's a shit ton of sulfur butterflies everywhere.

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Oh my god, how nice. More than we get in Texas.

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Because Texas has destroyed all its land. It paves over everything.

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Look at how green and verdant this is man ten

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minutes outside of Rainosa. Fucking beautiful, the Ahito system. But

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this is all communally owned agricultural land, which is what

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the Ahiito system essentially is it. So you know, it

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makes it very hard to be a shipback developer down here.

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But uhh, it'll come one day. I'm sure you know.

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The tumor grows, the human tumor grows. Oh smoky, Soul

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Town had to stop the piss. This is a really

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it's serious. Second, it's like six bucks a month. I

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got this. It's supposed to be twenty five or some

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obscene bullshit, but I they's offered me a deal. And

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then after you know, a year they they count on

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you forgetting that it, that you signed up for it,

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and then they jacked the price back up to twenty

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five bucks. I normally catch it a month and I write,

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I call him and I say, I'm gonna cancel. I

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don't want you know. Or now they've got it where

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you can just do it online. And then every time

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you say you're gonna cancel or you ask to cancel,

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then they jacked the price back down. It's a strange

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business model, but it works in seven bucks a month.

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For satellite radio, I can listen to Smoke You Soul Down,

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or you know, Willi's Willy's Road where they's road ass

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this old country you know, or US. It's kind of

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really the only channels we're listening to. Oh what I

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Got there's an there's an Aussie station too, that's not

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too bad. You like Asie, You like Assi. H got

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a friend of mine back in Chicago. He's a good

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you know, he's an old friend. He usually man is

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a liquor store. Last time I went to go see him,

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he was showing me all these pictures of guns here.

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He's kind of he's a good guy. He's a little eccentric,

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you know his values are good, though. Ah fuck, I

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just got a butterfly, and god damn it, why are

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they fly in the middle of the road. There's so

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many of them. Got sulfurs, we got the white ones.

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Don't know, get the fuck? I don't don't. But uh anyway, Yeah,

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I went in there to buy a stogy and into

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the liquor store, and I've seen mad and he's in there.

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He's like, hey, how you doing. You know, He's like,

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I just had a kid. He's you want to see

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my guns? He's got all these handguns and shit. You know,

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when someone's really opposed to guns, this, no matter what

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their politics are, I think they're fucking weird. I'm sorry, right,

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it's they're just an unfortunate reality or whatever, fortunate whatever

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however you want to look at it. A gun is

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just a tool. But you know, you cannot like him.

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But when you're really appos like when you get pissed,

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like I saw someone got pissed that. I made the

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grown if Plants shirt with the AK forty seven on it,

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which I thought was fucking hilarious, which is the point

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of it. And then you know, I hate that shirt.

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I hate it forget where I read it in a

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comment somewhere. You got to stop reading comments. There's just

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too much shit. But most of like eighty ninety percent

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of them are nice, or people are just stoked on

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what you do. And then there's always like I mean,

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it's the fucking internet. So people are mentally ill and

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alone and perpetually online and no one's going to therapy

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because nobody could afford it, and so they take it

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out and act out online. It's just the perfect venue.

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It's like a funnel that funnels all the shit, you know,

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from like nutjobs and just miserable people. And there's a

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lot of miserable people in the current dystopia we're living in,

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and so you just got accept that there's there's fucking

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kooks everywhere. There's always someone who's got some shit they

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want to pull out of their pants with their right

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hand and smear on the wall, on your wall in

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front of you. Just the way it goes. People are

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just fucking nuts and miserable and uh. And then also

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there's a lot of performance online too, because you can

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hit this whole self curated you know, internet bio that's

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not really you. You can pretend to be someone else,

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and and everybody does it to a certain extent. Some

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people do it a lot, but uh, it's all just

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you know, human primate social dynamics anyway. Uh, but the

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AK forty seven cheer was you know, I thought it

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was funny. I thought it was a it's totally it's

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like there's no core. First off, there's no correlation between

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plants and guns second, which is hilarious. Second it's very aggressive,

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which is also I mean, do I need to when

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you explain the joke, you kill it right. But this

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is I think that's why the style is. I think

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a lot of people don't get my style. A lot

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of the stiffs I've I've never met anyone that I

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actually liked or respected who hated what I did. It's always, uh,

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it's always people that seem like, oh yeah, that person

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that makes sense, of course I hate what I do.

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You know, I kind of Caucasian stiff, you know whatever,

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just not fucking wealthy, wealthy background whatever. And then there's

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people that are that are all of those things that

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like what I do too. But I'm just saying when

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it's always the people that always hate whatever I do,

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it's always it's always a I can always guess what

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kind of person that's going to be, or I'm not

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surprised when I find out, you know. But anyway, speaking

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to which Peter Raven just passed away rip renowned botanists.

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He was actually a big supporter of Crime Phase And

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my friend Crystal Ball in Mexico sent me a letter

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that an email that Peter had written him two years ago,

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you know, saying no, I'd love to come busy you

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in Mexico. They were talking about some little Pezia species

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he saw, and then he's like, I saw you on

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you know, Crime Pays, And you know, I love joy.

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I love what he's doing. Some people really don't like him.

466
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But but you gotta remember Peter's in Missouri Botanical Garden,

467
00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:05,559
which I've been on the shit list of some people

468
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:08,359
there for a very long time. Right, And you talk

469
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,279
about like a face that looks like a puckered butthole

470
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,720
figuratively speaking, you're talking about some of the higher ups

471
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,559
at Missouri Botanical Garden, right, just really like m you know,

472
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:25,079
just really they're not happy people. They're somebody, not everyone,

473
00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:28,039
but I'm saying the people in question not happy people.

474
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:34,240
The kind of stiff, certainly very square their their territorial

475
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:37,000
about their field, and I can see how you know,

476
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:40,400
they wouldn't like something like crime pace. And there's a

477
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,640
lot of Helianthus annualis on the side of the road

478
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,039
right here. Always thought it was so funny it's the

479
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:51,079
same species. But when I ordered the cultivar, like the

480
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,799
Russian cultivar of of Helianthus anuis the plant just as

481
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,960
a cover crop, like literally cover crop shade to give

482
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,839
shade to my yard. When I first got established and

483
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:06,359
there was no cover there was no shade whatsoever. And

484
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,440
I was planting shit in the middle of July, so

485
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,319
you know, and I was hanging shade screens up and

486
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,279
almost bullshit, and you know, realize this is ridiculous. Why

487
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:15,960
don't I stop doing this with the tea post and

488
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,880
the shade screen shit and just use you know, an

489
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,480
annual sunflowers. They'll be gone by, and they'll be gone

490
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:24,519
in a few months. I'll just sow the seed directly

491
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:25,799
in the ground. They'll get big as fuck. So I

492
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:28,519
got one of those Russian cultivars with the dinner plate

493
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:34,759
sized flower heads. There's pelophoxia too. Oh, there's a lot

494
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,000
of interesting plants on the side. I'm waiting in traffic.

495
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:40,680
Now we got Thimafula, we got what is this with

496
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,240
Delia hispida? Oh there's oh god, damn it. What is

497
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:52,640
that highly drought tolerant, pink flowered MALVASI I can't melochia. Man,

498
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,240
I'm getting old. The genus names don't come so quick.

499
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,480
What is a checkpoint with the cops? And shit, let

500
00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:01,279
me get the papers. You gotta have these vehicle permit papers.

501
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,519
It's a fucking pain in he asked to get. There

502
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:06,119
was nobody in the office yesterday when I went to

503
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,400
the board. You have to drive into Mexico with your car,

504
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:12,960
make an immediate you turn, pay a fee, get extorted.

505
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,160
The guy, one of the dudes who took my payment

506
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,079
for the permit thing, it was like, he's like, it's

507
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,279
fifteen bucks, and so of course he took eighteen and

508
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:25,880
I was like, what the fuck and he just like

509
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,720
looked at me and took the extra three and like

510
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,559
put him in his pocket. I was like, motherfucker, all right, whatever,

511
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,160
it's nothing to me. But I at the show, hold on,

512
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,799
I gotta put this down. I gotta explain to the

513
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:41,799
cops what I'm doing. Oh, they just wanted to sniff

514
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:46,440
on me. God, it never fucking annoying. It never ceases

515
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,279
to blow my mind. Whenever you're in Mexico and you

516
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,440
mentioned plants, the cops they always bring up drugs. It's

517
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,279
like the only thing they can think of, you know.

518
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,160
I was like, they ask me what I'm doing. I'm like,

519
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,359
I'm going to going Tonuiva Leona to give a presentation

520
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:05,559
on plant us and they're like, oh, marijuana a y

521
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:11,079
huesca noa no plant's silvestrece plant Us nativas. Then I

522
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,880
pointed a fucking monte all around this moron, and I'm like,

523
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,359
you got fucking cool plants all around you, Like everything here,

524
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,720
you know, is native and restricted to this habitat. Type

525
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,759
said the words tom aleapin thorn scrub. He looked at

526
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:28,920
me like I was fucking I do would I don't know.

527
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,440
I didn't say tom aleapan thorn scrub in Spanish, though

528
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,480
maybe I should have fucking more. And then they look

529
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,200
they look at the the papers and everything, and they don't.

530
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,000
You know, in Mexico could be very conservative too, right,

531
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:41,960
So like I don't have my shirt tucked in and

532
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,680
my hair gelled over and I don't have any hair.

533
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,599
I gotta shave my head after I gave myself a

534
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,359
fucked up haircut in the Philippines. You know, that's really

535
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:50,279
why I did it. I was too it was too hot.

536
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:52,279
I tried cut my hair back a little bit. I

537
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:54,079
just fucked it up because I didn't have a right razor.

538
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:55,880
So I was like, ah, fuck it, I'll just cut

539
00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,599
the Oh, we'll get this rock exposure. Ah, lovely God,

540
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:04,799
there's just cool shit growing everywhere here. There's buffalo and guinea,

541
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:07,960
but everything else is native anyway, so this fucking you know,

542
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,119
I don't look all clean cutting shit like a good

543
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,160
Catholic boy, right, I like, I only cosplay Catholics. Sometimes

544
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,279
it's not real. Oh, there's fucking self for butterflies everywhere,

545
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,880
undulating hills of tom a leap and thornscrub. It's amazing

546
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,400
how many kids from South Texas. You know, Mexicans have

547
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:29,440
never been to this side of the border to look

548
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,839
at the plants here. Right, It's just it's the borderlands.

549
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,599
The politics are so fucked up, the cartel shit, the

550
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,559
militarized border on the US side. It's so infuriating, man,

551
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:42,279
it doesn't need to be like this. But anyway, and

552
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,279
so these cops are just yeah, they looked me over

553
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:45,680
and they see they were trying to see if there

554
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,400
was a reason to extort me. I showed them the

555
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,319
flyer for the gig I'm speaking at, and then they

556
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:53,680
still brought up drugs because that's all they can think of,

557
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:58,720
and they're, you know, measley cop brains, and uh yeah,

558
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:00,319
and then they just let me go. They to me

559
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,599
in my way, But it was fucking annoying. It's like, really, drugs,

560
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:05,680
Like do you think everything's a fucking drug? Like that's

561
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,920
all you got to do is just did more drug

562
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,400
war shit. And of course, you know, the US started

563
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,519
the drug war. Now the US is trying to you know,

564
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:14,680
the US obviously lost the drug war too, so they're

565
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,480
starting to ease up. But meanwhile, all these other countries

566
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:20,079
all over the world, because they were sucking the US

567
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:23,640
as nuts, all got involved on you know, anti drug

568
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,759
bullshit too, and it just created this fucking this atmosphere

569
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:30,440
where every citizen is a potential enemy and the cops

570
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,559
have an impossible job and rather than going after real crime,

571
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:37,000
everything is drugs. I'm killing so many butterflies, right, now

572
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:40,079
it is sad. The grill of my truck's gonna look

573
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:45,480
like it's papered with confetti. But uh, anyway, yeah, so

574
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:50,839
onwards towards uh Monterey. There's a lot of phrases in Monterey.

575
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,920
It's like a very white culture there. That's bizarre, right,

576
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:58,200
It's not like you go to Wahaka and people are

577
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,920
fucking like proudly nate of indigenous ship. It's like Monterrey's

578
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,640
got a very a very Spanish white culture. Phrases. You

579
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,079
know what the code freight, it's like the Spanish word

580
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:15,359
for strawberry slash yuppie. You know, the friely shits, right,

581
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,319
the fancy labs, the fucking candy asses, the uh, you know, phrases.

582
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,359
You know, you know what a phrase is, right, strawberry,

583
00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:27,440
perfect word for it too, a very descriptive, perfect metaphor. Yeah,

584
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,359
God damn that the habitat just that looks amazing around me. Oh,

585
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,880
there wasn't the risk of getting extorted by the cops

586
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,119
or kidnapped by a cartel. I would love to just

587
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,920
pull over and get into it. It's you know, he's

588
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,759
pretty chill. But anyway, so what the fuck was I

589
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:49,519
talking about? Oh yeah, so Peter Raven passed away. Who really,

590
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:52,480
you know, the thing like the things I'm always talking about,

591
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,599
like every plants, the product of the habitat that comes from.

592
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,880
He was famous for that, you know, co evolution paper

593
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:04,039
did with Paul Irlik about you know, coevolution of butterflies,

594
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:10,200
of lepidopterne, lepidopteranes and plants. And then he wrote a

595
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,680
book too, called Driven by Nature. It's like an autobiography.

596
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,759
Grew up in San Francisco. I first heard of Peter

597
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:23,240
Raven because there's an arkdolstaphalo species named after him. But

598
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,000
he was, you know, a really nice He was on

599
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:29,799
the podcast twice and I really, you know, a really

600
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:36,400
influential botanist. Good dude. Too good for Missouri Botanical Garden,

601
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,559
at least where it is now. I'm just shitting on

602
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,519
them repeatedly. I'm sorry, they just they fucking pissed me off.

603
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:47,759
They're a bunch of fucking cunts. The HR Department, the

604
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:52,400
fucking top administrators fired two friends of mine, you know,

605
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,319
replacing cool plants in their in their desert house with

606
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:02,640
horticultural atrocity to attract rich donors. They're all about that shit.

607
00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:07,640
They're all about the right. They just the fucking h

608
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,240
you know, it's just it's wild, man, it's they're still

609
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:15,319
stuck in this antiquated East Coast botanical gardens style, and

610
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,480
it's so hard to snap snap people out of that. Right,

611
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:22,720
I say to the East Coast because a lot of

612
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:24,599
botanic gardens in the East Coast are like that. They're

613
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,200
like this English Victorian garden. You know, it's where all

614
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,119
the horticultural bullshit comes out of the weeping plant, the

615
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:37,880
fastigia plant, the cultivars, the showy gardens, the show gardens.

616
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,880
I said, I can always get ship whenever I do

617
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,160
that voice. It's my fucking caring voice. And there's always

618
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,279
some you know, self flagellating, guilty Caucasian personally, it's the

619
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,720
really problematic voice to do that. Anyway, Fuck you. Hopefully

620
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,680
hopefully I've driven those people off from this podcast. Right,

621
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,519
we live in different worlds, pal, you live in a

622
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:03,000
bubble all right, I'm getting extorted by Mexican cops down here.

623
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:06,240
What are you doing? Fuck face you fucking anyway, Sorry,

624
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,440
I get a little the fat. I don't need to

625
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,039
be defensive like that. Everyone's trying the best they can't.

626
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,400
You know, everyone's got their own story. They're trying the

627
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,960
best they can. Not everyone's had bad ascid trips. They

628
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,440
can a bus at two am, on a fridge at Chicago,

629
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:19,880
went the night, or been to jail for a little spell.

630
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,199
You know, think experiences like that tend to be good

631
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,639
for people. Maybe some of these you know, candy asses

632
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:30,679
can go get some of it anyway. But Peter Raven

633
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,480
had done a lot in this book is pretty good too.

634
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:36,440
It's Driven by Nature is pretty interesting. Born in San

635
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,599
Francisco at a time, you know, into San Francisco that

636
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,480
no longer exists. God, I would have loved to see

637
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:50,480
it back then. I mean getting into botany pre uh

638
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,519
pre inin at and smartphones and and all that shit

639
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:59,440
that gets. You know, that's really influenced. And I think

640
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,400
it's good. I think all that's good. But I'm just

641
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,679
saying back in the day, it wasn't you know, you

642
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,079
didn't just have iinat and you couldn't take photos so readily.

643
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:12,639
You had to really, you know, go out and collect stuff.

644
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,400
You had to go out and collect plants and really

645
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,320
study them in habitat. I mean, you couldn't even take

646
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,639
photos man, you know, well you you could, but with

647
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,119
a you know, a traditional film camera. I think about

648
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,119
that all the time because photos are so essential to

649
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:32,719
the study of bondy these days. There it's just such

650
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,800
an easy way to collect data and reference material, to

651
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,519
look at what plant? You know, what you what you saw?

652
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:44,119
What what species? It is, the photos of the habitat,

653
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:46,599
et cetera. You didn't have any of that back in

654
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:51,079
the forties and fifties. Man, it was it was just

655
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,239
really you know, collecting or barium vouchers, line drawings, whatever.

656
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,079
I mean. There were challenges, definite challenges. Oh look at

657
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:05,760
these undulating hills of grain of all these wonderful plants.

658
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,159
Much less of a heat island on this side of

659
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:11,480
the border too, because you know, it hasn't been turned

660
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:16,519
into parking lots, so I'm sure that affects the local climate.

661
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:19,079
Maybe that's the reason that things look a little bit

662
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:20,960
better as wild. Even if you're in like Tucson or

663
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,320
southern Arizona, the menu you cross the border into Sonora,

664
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:27,280
the landscape just in my experience always looks more vivid

665
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,760
and alive. You know, I should go back and listen

666
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,119
to that episode of the podcast with Peter Raven as

667
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:35,920
much as I hate the sound of my own voice,

668
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,639
at least on a podcast, right, But there were two.

669
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,280
There was I forget what the first one. I think

670
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,320
the first one was just a straight up interview with him,

671
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,639
and the second one was we were talking about the

672
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:54,960
diversification and explosion of angiosperms in the early Cretaceous. And

673
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,199
that one he didn't seem too keet in. He wasn't

674
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,039
very He wasn't really he wasn't really into it. He

675
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,320
wasn't feeling it. I think he was a little maybe

676
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,079
he was a little angry or tired, he was grumpy.

677
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,000
I don't know, but I should go back, and they

678
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,320
were like from twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two.

679
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:12,480
You can go back that far and listen. When I

680
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,119
switched the podcast over to iHeart Radio. You know, that's

681
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,079
the company that's responds for all the shitty adds you

682
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,400
here when you listen to this, unless you're in the

683
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,599
Patreon where for five bucks a month you could listen

684
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:25,239
add free. Thank you for all the Patreons supporters too.

685
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:27,039
I needed to do I need to do more for

686
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:33,280
you guys. But but yeah, anyway, when I transferred to

687
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,280
iHeart Radio. They left out some of the older podcasts.

688
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,960
I don't know why. Maybe it's for the better though,

689
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,159
because it was really, you know, some of them are

690
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,400
really and you know, as far as I mean, I

691
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,960
do disjointed rants well now, but back then, holy shit,

692
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:54,760
they were just it was it was off the chain.

693
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Some of them are just like a pinball machine. The

694
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:00,920
train of thought is just like a pinball, you know,

695
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,360
just all over the place. But yeah, that was a

696
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,519
it was a good interview. With the first Peter Raven

697
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:12,519
interview or the first episode I did with it was

698
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:18,880
pretty good. It's pretty interesting, interesting fellow. You know, I

699
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,880
think the thing with some of these cops, the Mexican cops,

700
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,559
depending on where the trams he throws out are worse

701
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:28,480
like the local ones. Then the state cops can can

702
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:29,880
be grew up as fuck. I think that's who I

703
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,480
just saw. But I think, you know, people getting nervous.

704
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:35,480
It's hard not to be nervous when you're around these

705
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:39,000
fucking idiots, and I think they they can detect your

706
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:42,920
level of nervousness and that like turns them on, like

707
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,880
they get a dopamine shot because it's obvious control thing,

708
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,880
especially if you're male. You know, male human primates are

709
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,880
geared more towards that, especially depending on what culture you

710
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,960
come from. And so I think they get off on

711
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,480
knowing someone's afraid of them, and then it immediately they

712
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:04,760
start fucking with you. But every time I'm like getting

713
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,559
stopped by Mexican state cops or going through a checkpoint,

714
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,760
they always ask about drugs, probably because they see the

715
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,440
tattoos and whatever. I don't know, but you know, or

716
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:18,280
they say something that they you know, they they ask

717
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,840
you where you're going, You tell them where you're going,

718
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,280
they repeat it back to you, like in this kind

719
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,159
of Oh it's so fucking dirty and gross. Gross man,

720
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:30,960
it's just like they're so sleepsy and corrupt. Not all,

721
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,000
I'm sure not all, but fuck it's that's the culture,

722
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:37,000
at least among the state cops. Federalites see maybe a

723
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:40,039
little bit more chill, I don't know. And the transitos

724
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,559
are real slimy. The cops in Mexico are the worse.

725
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:48,360
They're fucking Oh. So you not only gotta worry about

726
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,360
occasional cartel shit, you also have to worry about the

727
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,760
pigs to the cops. To excuse me, I call these

728
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,360
caps pigs, because they are they really are they that's

729
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,480
just face it. They're fucking dirty and corrupt, and there

730
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:04,440
are a lot of more assholes anyway, A little slow,

731
00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:08,719
a little fast, excuse me? So uh, I just stopped

732
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:14,320
the photograph of Malochia tomentosa that was growing in a

733
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:19,320
in a sea of plastic bottled garbage. But it's just little,

734
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,360
it's just little bits of litter. But then there's none

735
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,639
of the big litter, Like the developments are anywhere near

736
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,199
as abundant here as they are in the US. Right US,

737
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,280
there's not a lot of little litter, you know, like

738
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,559
trash and plastic coverage, but there's a lot of big litter,

739
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:42,239
my dollar generals, pawn shops, shopping plazas, giant roads, that

740
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:48,159
kind of thing. I gotta come back Saturday or Sunday.

741
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:50,920
But man I you know, I got half of mine

742
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,960
to just keep going. Drive down to Wahaka Prowebla or something.

743
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,599
There's a lot of plants I want to see. There

744
00:40:56,679 --> 00:41:01,559
was an interesting number of malpiggy ac that has fruits

745
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:05,960
that have these like inch long red tricombs on them

746
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,760
that looks fucking wild. I mean the fruit, the tri

747
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,559
coombs I guess are red for wind dispersal and maybe

748
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:15,480
to attract birds that then picked them up out of

749
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:19,119
curiosity and dropped them. It began with an l. There's

750
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,599
only like two observations of an I naturalist. My friend

751
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:29,800
Gabrielle was down then where was it correct throal maybe

752
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,159
and seen it. He's seen it down there. I couldn't

753
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,360
place it was. It was really fantastic, look at small

754
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,880
tree and then it turned out. I asked my friend

755
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,360
Mark Olsen, who teaches at UNAM, and he looked it

756
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,559
up and was able to You know, he knows the

757
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:52,559
florist so well. But it's amazing. How just you need

758
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,079
more people in Mexico use an I net, You know,

759
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:58,679
you need more community scientists, just people who aren't necessarily

760
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,840
going to school for this shit but do it because

761
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,000
it fills the void in their soul and makes them

762
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:10,519
feel better about the contemporary state of modern civilization, right,

763
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:14,280
which is what botany is good medicine for. Right, every

764
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,199
time you feel like puke, and figuratively or spiritually speaking,

765
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:19,719
go out and look at some fucking plants or some birds,

766
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,039
or some reptiles or whatever, fungi, whatever the fuck you know,

767
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:26,480
just get the fuck out. Get out of the human world. This,

768
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:31,920
you know, brutal, short term loss, long term gain. The

769
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,920
short term gain long term loss paradigm that we have

770
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,360
is a civilization, right now. Get away from all the

771
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,960
dumb shit, the social performativeness, the social hierarchies, all this

772
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:48,440
grotesque shit, the sociopaths that want money and power. Get

773
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,679
away from all that. Go look at the living world. No,

774
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,119
it doesn't matter what aspect of the living world you're looking.

775
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:55,719
It's get the fuck out. Go look at the living world,

776
00:42:56,639 --> 00:43:00,719
and almost more importantly, record it, right like get photographs,

777
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,400
use ain at pay attention, study it, learn the names,

778
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,559
learn the pay attention to the ecologies. Pay attention to

779
00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:11,760
the way that plants behave. You know, a plant psychology

780
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:16,599
is really just how it plants behavior is really just

781
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:20,960
a psychology and its habit and how it interacts with

782
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,400
things around it. Right, the habitat. Pay attention to the

783
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,599
connection between the habitat and the plants. The habitat literally

784
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,679
breeds the plants the same way that humans have bred crops.

785
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:33,719
You know, and I say this all the time, it's

786
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,639
my fucking analogy I use. I'm sorry if you're hearing

787
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:37,920
it againfort in nineteenth time to deal with it. You know,

788
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:42,000
broccoli col robbie call of flower, Brussels sprouts, all the

789
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,599
same species, bread by people, bread by people, tinkering with

790
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:53,320
different phenotypes, phenotypic variation, and then you know, establishing it

791
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,119
in a population so that all members of the population

792
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:01,480
then then display that those phenotypic trades. Right, same thing

793
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,639
they've done with pugs and great things in chihawa's from

794
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:07,000
the same species as dog. Right, That's what habitats do

795
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:13,199
to plants. There are so many traits, evolutionarily convergent traits,

796
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,880
that is, things that unrelated plants end up evolving independently,

797
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:21,199
and they display these traits not as a result of

798
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:26,239
shared inheritance, but because of the adaptive benefit of those traits. Right,

799
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,440
much like wings for birds and bats, you know, or

800
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:35,320
fins for sharks and dolphins. To use really easy analogies, right,

801
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,840
there's like the thorn scrub here. I just I was

802
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,840
watering some shit in my yard and I got the

803
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,000
seeds of Corstetia ax hilarius. This shrub to like six

804
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:48,440
feet in the bean family. I got the seeds. The

805
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:52,039
fruit's wet. They look like little brown bean pods and

806
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:54,679
they started exploding. You get them wet a couple seconds

807
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,159
after they start exploding and shooting seed everywhere. Right, that's

808
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:03,679
a great example of explosive to Hissians, especially in response

809
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,239
to them getting wet, you know, as if after a rain,

810
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:12,639
just like Ruellia does, right, which is in they can't

811
00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,360
they see you get Rouellia seeds wet, they start snap

812
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,800
cracking and snap cracking and popping and shooting seeds everywhere,

813
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,840
and they do it after a rain, which that's also

814
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,960
makes sense that they're not dropping the seeds on the

815
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,239
ground where they can be preyed upon by rodents and

816
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:30,159
other insects more easily. Instead, the seeds remain protected by

817
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,320
the fruit that they're in by the ovary and only

818
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,800
get thrown on the ground during a rain when the

819
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,679
soil is going to be wet and they can germinate anyway.

820
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,159
But then, of course there's plenty of plants from the

821
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:47,880
tamalaf and thorn scrub borderlands plant habitat that are explosively

822
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,280
the Hissian even without rain. They just once they get

823
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,039
mature enough. Plenty of members of eupour Ba C. The

824
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:56,079
rubber and points study of family. Do that Adelia a

825
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:01,880
ci croton also from the leggan family, throw stem in Mexicana,

826
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,840
make a Mexican Mexican holdback. Stupid name. I don't know

827
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,599
where that comes from. It's a great tree, it's great

828
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:13,039
native plant gardens, fast growing, good cover. I mean, there's

829
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,199
a shit ton of plants to do this, right, Like

830
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,119
a duel weed up in the Midwest does that in

831
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:24,519
patients Capensis right, explosive to hissians, right, But it's especially

832
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:28,880
common among plants in the thorn scrub and especially you

833
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,199
know ones that they get wet and it causes them

834
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:35,519
to shoot their seed. It's it's you know, you see

835
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:40,159
the same thing the zigzag branching habit in New Zealand plants, right,

836
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,199
the branching habit the divericate branching. If you want to

837
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:48,119
look it up, look up divaricating branching or divericate branching

838
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:50,639
in New Zealand plants and you'll get a ton of

839
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,920
articles on it. Thought to be a response to predation

840
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:57,159
by MOA's giant flightless birds that are now extinct, that

841
00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:00,719
were driven extinct by the Maori, but upon Anesians who

842
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,480
first hit you know who first landed on New Zealand

843
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,360
in twelve or thirteen hundred, right, But New Zealand didn't

844
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,840
have any large mammals. That just had large flightless birds.

845
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,559
They brows differently than mammals do, and so the plants

846
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:17,880
there evolved a different defense mechanism, namely creating this cage

847
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:24,639
like structure with their branches right long, comparatively long distance

848
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:30,119
between leaf notes, short fascicled leaves and this zigzag branching.

849
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,320
Really really cool heteroblasty among some of the plants in

850
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,960
New Zealand as well. You know, different juvenile and adult leaves.

851
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,760
The juvenile leaves tend to be more armed. Some of

852
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,599
the pseudopanax and the ginsing family Araliac do that really well,

853
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,679
bizarre fucking genus Pseudopanax man. Some of them are really

854
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:56,159
really cool looking. You know, fire seeds that germinate response

855
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:58,880
to the chemicals and smoke, like you see in plants

856
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,719
from the California Flora Province, the fire dependent areas of

857
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,760
the California Floristic Province, or the fire dependent areas of

858
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,280
South Africa, et cetera. These are all traits you know,

859
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,239
you study plants in a habitat long enough, you start

860
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:19,280
noticing traits that have evolved, or traits that you start

861
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,599
seeing traits appear in unrelated lineages of plants. It's fucking incredible.

862
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,559
Now you can literally see how the landscape is breeding

863
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:31,920
these things into the plants. Right. It's just that that

864
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:37,559
list of circumstances in that plant habitat selects for different

865
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:40,400
traits among the plants that grow their right. Plants and

866
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,360
swamps plants and alpine areas like alpine areas of Tasmania

867
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,599
or of the Atacama Desert, where you're at fifteen thousand

868
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:51,599
feet low latitude of fifteen thousand feet up, you get

869
00:48:51,639 --> 00:48:55,800
a lot of cushion plants, leaf frozets, plants that don't

870
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,760
get very tall, that kind of thing. Right. Azarella compact

871
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,840
the one of the most bizarre plants in the world,

872
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,880
carrot family abac. It's just a bunch of leaf rosett's

873
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,199
I'll smush together and what ends up looking like a

874
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,159
in some cases ten foot wide lump of green green carpet,

875
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,000
like leathery green carpet that just covers rocks and can

876
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:22,840
live for two thousand years. Right, really fascinating stuff. And

877
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,679
the habitat is the context of everything. Areocarpus phisseratus looks

878
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,800
like a living rock because it grows in a barren desert,

879
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,719
the Chiuahua desert, with a bunch of limestone talus all

880
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,840
over the ground right in that thick cuticle, That thick

881
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,039
waxy layer that makes it look like a living rock's

882
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,960
beneficial both in the sense that it provides camouflage, but

883
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:47,599
also in the sense that it limits the amount of

884
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:53,239
damaging intense ultraviolet that can get in, and it limits

885
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,559
the amount of moisture that can be transpired lost through

886
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,800
the stomata. Got the fucking stomata. Jim Masseth, Professor emeritus

887
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:09,280
at the at UT Austin, showed me a microscope slide

888
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:14,239
he'd taken the cuticle and the epidermal tissue of Aerocarbus physeratus,

889
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,119
showing these deep pits in this really thick cuticle, like

890
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:23,719
two hundred and fifty micrometer deep cuticle that you know.

891
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,239
He showed how how hard this these deep pits where

892
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,880
the stomata are, you know, how it looks like a

893
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:35,039
like you're looking at like a street layer of like

894
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:39,159
a sewer, like a sewer tunnel right, like a sewer,

895
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,199
a sewer a hole in the ground for a sewer, right,

896
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,559
It's like it goes really deep through this cuticle, and

897
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:49,480
that of course limits the amount of moisture that can

898
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:52,800
be lost through those stoemains. Because these things grow out

899
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,199
in the barren open And when you see him dying

900
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,519
in the West Texas desert, you can it gives you

901
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:01,159
an idea of how bad the drought must have been. Man,

902
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:07,760
here is some amazing conglomerate formation on top of the sandstone. Oh,

903
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:13,840
beautiful road cuts. Continuations of the geologic strata layers that

904
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,719
we get in South Texas, like sandstone down below, like

905
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,840
you see in the Roma bluffs above the Rio Grande,

906
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:27,440
and then that goliad gravel stuff up top. I didn't

907
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,000
see any cata hula formation. Maybe there was keta hula

908
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:35,000
formation there. Anyway, Uh, got another hour and a half

909
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:37,639
to drive. I have to stop and piss again. I drink,

910
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,679
I drink these forties of green tea. I gotta take

911
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:44,639
it easy, you know, maybe it's a it's a diuretic.

912
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,599
You know, it really makes you have to piss a lot.

913
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:49,280
I don't want to. I don't like paying for the

914
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,000
public toilets here. Oh wait, I gotta pay the fucking tolls.

915
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,440
Hold on a minute. A land clearance that looks terrible.

916
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,679
Oh just went over an amazing little river by General

917
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,400
Brown heneral Bravo. It's little town. Am I in tom

918
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,679
alip is still? Or am I in the way? I

919
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,760
don't know either way. It looked fucking amazing down there.

920
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,679
God damn it. Wish I had time to go. I

921
00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:12,920
gotta stop star, I gotta stop agreen adu see, I

922
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,960
got events, I got events booked up this whole fucking summer.

923
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:20,239
Kolowe asked me to speak at their native plant thing

924
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,440
in North Carolina. Someone's gonna get banned, someone's gonna get

925
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,320
canceled for inviting me, you know, especially some of those

926
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,199
young college kids. Bless their hearts. Some are good, some

927
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,199
are really amped up, you know, on uh on uh.

928
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,400
You know, they think I'm problematic. They got they and

929
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,960
I don't like the fact that it make fun of

930
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:40,800
never mind, you know, everybody wants easy answers to the

931
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,159
world's problems, and it's so easy to just paarrot things

932
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:45,159
that you say online. And it's gonna make fun of

933
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:48,599
people for anyway. Uh So, you know, someone's gonna get

934
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:51,400
canceled for inviting me to Klowe. They asked me to

935
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,519
be the plenary speaker. You know, this is a good

936
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:56,800
heads up. Maybe you want to let them know, Let

937
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,960
the let the speakers at Callowe Native Plant Conference know

938
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:06,480
that I'm problematic and uh and uh infringing on academic territory,

939
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:12,239
and let them know that. I don't know, you know

940
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,000
that way, but that way it'll free up my schedule.

941
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,280
In July June, I'm not going on tour. And then

942
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,119
we're doing this. I have to go help lead this

943
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:28,960
tour for Costa Rica with some mycology people, Alan Rockefeller,

944
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,239
et cetera. That'll be fun. And then but I'm showing

945
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,679
about a fifteenth and I guess that's things sold out already.

946
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,480
Costa Rica is so nice. It is weird, though. You

947
00:53:38,519 --> 00:53:41,159
go to the airport and it's all it's all fucking grigos.

948
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:46,000
It's bizarre. It's unnerving a little bit. But at least

949
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,159
a lot of stuff is protected down there due to

950
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:53,440
the eco tourism. How many shamanistics how many? You know?

951
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:58,440
How many come? Mostly? D say Honky shaman, cost D

952
00:53:58,519 --> 00:54:10,480
say quantos, Honky Immensustan in Costa Rica Muchos de Macierro's God,

953
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:13,440
its the right lane is all fucked up from the trucks.

954
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,599
And then, uh, what, August, I'm gonna be in Denver.

955
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:19,159
That'll be fun. I've been ignoring emails about what I'm

956
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:21,039
supposed to do in Denver for the last week. They're

957
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:24,199
really sweet. I just I get anxiety, you know. I

958
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:26,599
open my email inbox and I just don't want to

959
00:54:26,639 --> 00:54:28,440
look at anything, and then it just makes me feel

960
00:54:28,519 --> 00:54:31,960
terrible and like I am, you know, going to work,

961
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,239
and then I have to. I just want to go

962
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,800
lay down behind my couch. I don't have a couch,

963
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,239
but if I did, I will go lay down behind

964
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,320
it on the floor and just have a panic attack,

965
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,920
because that's what happens when I look at my email inbox.

966
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:45,880
I just don't. I just don't respond to a lot

967
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,119
of things because I can't. It's just too much. It's

968
00:54:48,199 --> 00:54:51,280
like too much. My fucking bandwidth was exceeded months ago.

969
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:53,880
I need to go on some sort of holistic retreat.

970
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,400
Put the phone down, you know, so I can't manipulate

971
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,760
my behavior and piss me off or make me feel

972
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:07,639
bad or depress me and and just don't get distracted.

973
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:11,079
It's really fucked my attention spend just you know, allow

974
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:13,679
myself time to just beat bored and daydream. Still you

975
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,280
should do this too, And and just you know, not

976
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,039
speak for a week or so. I don't, fuck, I

977
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:22,880
don't think I could do that, honestly, not run my mouth.

978
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,320
You know hard it is for me to not start

979
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,039
singing to the dogs or you know, doing the whole

980
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:32,079
terrest things start. You know, there's like a different Turet's

981
00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:35,960
feature of them of the month every so often. You know,

982
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,800
it's easier, you know, you know, hey, cock boy or whatever.

983
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,679
You just shit, I'll just say, you know, just to

984
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,320
just to break up the silence. I don't think I

985
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,079
could do a silent retreat for ten days. How do

986
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:48,719
you do that? You have to put duct tape over

987
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,199
my mouth or some shit. I would have to get

988
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:54,559
my mouth stitch shut with those dissolvable stitches in order

989
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:56,159
to get me to shut the fuck up for ten days.

990
00:55:56,159 --> 00:55:58,440
I can't do it. I really can't. It's hard, you know,

991
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,599
Oh God. Anyway, I guess it's better than being a

992
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:06,559
mute or something, you know, or being so shy to

993
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:12,599
the point of being unable to talk, right, you gotta

994
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:16,559
lose some people up and then what am I doing

995
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:19,480
September or September I'm going to the aeroid conference in Miami.

996
00:56:19,519 --> 00:56:22,360
I need to start saying no, man, no, I'm not

997
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,760
gonna do this. No, I can't go speak. Or if

998
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,559
if you want me to go speak, you gotta pay

999
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,400
like decent, right, not like these. You gotta just charge

1000
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,920
more money or something, which sucks too. But I just

1001
00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:37,039
don't have any fucking time right. I would much rather

1002
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:40,480
be looking at plants, going to cool places than than

1003
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:46,639
doing presentations. It can be fun, but just need a

1004
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:49,920
fucking break, man. You know what, if I'm gonna see

1005
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,639
any more tinky winky cops, that's what they always remind

1006
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:56,480
me of. The cop them, the little transititos and you know,

1007
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,280
uh uh it' stopped all the state cops AND's gonna

1008
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,639
always remind me to tinky winkies, remember that from what

1009
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,079
was that? The what was that? Kids show? The tinky winky? What?

1010
00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:10,159
What was it? Well? What the fuck? I can't remember

1011
00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:15,840
the goddamn name. I'm glad I can't remember the tinky winky.

1012
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:17,960
God damn it, I can't remember the name. It was

1013
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,679
like a PBS. I was infuriating. It was an infuriating

1014
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,239
kids show and it would you know, just just fucking

1015
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,320
stupid too. It was just like stupid, like it was

1016
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,039
just I felt like it made kids dumber. Whatever, whatever,

1017
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:34,159
tinky winky caids. Someone tell me what you know? What

1018
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:36,159
don't I don't want to know. Don't remind me. But

1019
00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:37,679
that's what I was thinking, like I wanted to see

1020
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:40,480
any more cops. They get so excited. I let the cop.

1021
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:44,000
This cop got really excited when he saw I had

1022
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:48,079
my uh, giant ass backpack. It's like a waterproof chromebag.

1023
00:57:48,119 --> 00:57:50,079
It's a fucking ripoff of what it is. Chrome charges

1024
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:52,360
too much money. Now fuck them. You can find a different,

1025
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,119
a different bad company. Go with them. I just go

1026
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:57,039
with Chrome because it's what I used to use when

1027
00:57:57,039 --> 00:57:59,400
I used to when I was a bike messenger twenty

1028
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,480
years ago. But he saw the giant backpack in the

1029
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,360
in the shotgun seat and he got all excited. I mean,

1030
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,280
this cops eyes lit up like a four year old

1031
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,159
child's eyes on Christmas morning. He was so excited. He

1032
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,360
was convinced there head to be drugs in there. You

1033
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,440
know you got a guy with neck tattoos in a

1034
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,920
filthy truck. It's all fucked up on the sides, pinstriped

1035
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,840
with you know, uh, scratches from the monte, from the shrubs,

1036
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,440
from the thorn scrub. And there's a backpack. And what

1037
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:31,360
could be in that backpack? Holy shit, I don't believe

1038
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,000
that it's just a sketchbook, a computer, you know, a

1039
00:58:34,039 --> 00:58:38,280
couple changes of socks and a couple of shirts. Right,

1040
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,119
it's gotta be drugs. I bet he's got a brick

1041
00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:42,599
of cocaine in there and he's bringing it southing to eat.

1042
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:45,920
Fucking moron, what do you think? Hat? You have, fucking jerkop?

1043
00:58:46,039 --> 00:58:49,559
You think I'm bringing drugs into Mexico? God damn it.

1044
00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:52,440
I just I hate that. You know, when will the

1045
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,599
cops in Mexico stop doing that everything's everybody's got drugs

1046
00:58:56,599 --> 00:59:00,639
thing and don't incentivize them, when when you getrvs around

1047
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:06,159
cops right instead of just you know, treating them or

1048
00:59:06,199 --> 00:59:09,800
assuming you know that they're just like the working class

1049
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,800
slabs that they are, which is that's fine, you know,

1050
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,599
that's fine in this case they're kind of class traders.

1051
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:17,360
But whatever, you know, and it's just I'm talking about

1052
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,639
Mexican cops. I'm talking about it. It's different in the States, right,

1053
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,000
The cops in the States are a little bit different,

1054
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,079
and you know, they're nowhere near as obnoxious. Is this shit.

1055
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:31,159
The Mexican cops are reported repugnantly corrupt, like just exceedingly corrupt.

1056
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:38,119
But when you act nervous around them, you incentivize the

1057
00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:40,840
broken system because they feed off fear. They love that.

1058
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,559
That's like a power thing for him. It gives them

1059
00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:45,960
a little stiffy, right, God, I fucking hate the cops.

1060
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,559
Remember when Andrew Callan Channel five News was doing. He

1061
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:53,280
was interviewing all these migrants crossing the border, and it was,

1062
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,599
you know a lot of people like from Central Africa

1063
00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:58,840
would come to Mexico and then cross there. And he

1064
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,719
was interviewing some of the migrants come from Central Africa

1065
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,400
and he was they were they're all just like man,

1066
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,920
the cops in Mexico were the worst. The cops are

1067
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,360
just fucking horrible. They're worse than the criminals. I mean,

1068
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,559
the cops are criminals, but they're worse than the criminals

1069
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:15,360
then like cartel, because they just shake you the fuck

1070
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,239
down and they just they're just such fucking dirtbags. And

1071
01:00:19,239 --> 01:00:21,400
it's one thing to do that when you're a criminal.

1072
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,440
It's nothing to do when you supposedly have the law

1073
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:25,800
behind you and you know you can get away with it.

1074
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,400
You know, your chicken shit fucking pisces me off, so

1075
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:36,639
fucking ugh. You know anyway, I got distracted. Sorry, I

1076
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:40,679
mean there's always time for corrupt cop hatred to be spewed.

1077
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,639
Oh look at this Monthay, look at this beautiful thorn

1078
01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:50,320
scrub four five feet tall, extends for miles in ocean

1079
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:55,199
of green. So lovely. Whereas astrophytem could put them aduci

1080
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,400
the astrophytum that was only described twenty years ago looks

1081
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,239
nothing like any of the other astrophytum species. Looks like

1082
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,760
an octopus. Where is it? I was hoping the ones

1083
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,559
that I have would produce seed this year, but I

1084
01:01:09,559 --> 01:01:12,800
don't think they cross pollinated. I don't know. Need more

1085
01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:18,280
more native bees, need more of the native cactus bees.

1086
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,199
Some of the macroterras were what's the case with's diodesia?

1087
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,719
What's the goblin bee? Ow? There's so many cool native

1088
01:01:26,719 --> 01:01:31,519
bees in South Texas. Hi. Welcome to another episode of

1089
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:35,960
Tony's House Tricks podcast. Today we're listening to Jake Antonio

1090
01:01:36,519 --> 01:01:39,880
The Groove that Never Stops. Okay, it's kind of sensual,

1091
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,079
kind of mystic. He uses a bit of synth and uh.

1092
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:46,000
You know, sometimes when you're coming back from Mexico, you

1093
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:49,599
might end up catching some counterfeit gas. You might just

1094
01:01:49,719 --> 01:01:51,960
end up with some counterfeit gas in it. Take might

1095
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:55,559
make your engine misfire, you know, make some weird cranks

1096
01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:57,719
and clugs. You never know. But the minute you get

1097
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,719
back over the border, you fill up with reg you gas,

1098
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,719
and you'll be fine. It'll remedue the situation perfectly. You know.

1099
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,639
It's just what they do on her sometimes you see

1100
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:08,159
it's a it's a big operation. You know, Cartel got

1101
01:02:08,159 --> 01:02:10,840
involved in the gas business and so they you know,

1102
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,719
they actually break into the tubes and uh, and they'll

1103
01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:16,400
go make their own gas, you know, they make little

1104
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,159
mixtures and stuff. Anyway, I'm coming back, Uh it's Saturday.

1105
01:02:20,199 --> 01:02:25,079
I can't wait to get uh harassed by the not harassed,

1106
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:27,440
just poked. They just poked. But what are you doing?

1107
01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:29,519
You know, what are you doing on? Are you getting drugs?

1108
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,000
And then I don't have to go sit in the

1109
01:02:33,039 --> 01:02:35,519
fucking line at the border, and I guess the cartel

1110
01:02:35,679 --> 01:02:38,280
was doing some roadblock stuff and Rainosa, but I'm not

1111
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,719
going through Rainos so proper. We're going going around it. So, uh,

1112
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,880
you know, they I guess that the Mexican government captured

1113
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,760
some some higher up in the cartel. I think there's

1114
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,480
the Gulf Cartel. Instead of throwing a temper tantrum and

1115
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,880
blocking off roads in downtown, Reino says, it's just it's

1116
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,159
just standard Ferris is what happened anyway, at a wonderful time,

1117
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,559
and I'm actually just why are they doing this. They're

1118
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:05,960
making parts of Nuevo Leone look like Texas with the

1119
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,639
fucking freeways, you know, one hundred feet in the sky. God,

1120
01:03:09,679 --> 01:03:12,480
good luck. Just they the whole city of Monterrey just

1121
01:03:12,639 --> 01:03:15,639
held hostage by cars. Anyway, Finally got to see miro

1122
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:21,079
Spermum sussinum in habitat, which is pleasant because Arroyo sweetwood

1123
01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:24,039
as it's known, which has been in cultivation in Texas

1124
01:03:24,119 --> 01:03:25,880
for like twenty or thirty years now, and it's a

1125
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,000
fucking great Let me turn this goddamn music off. That

1126
01:03:28,119 --> 01:03:30,800
was kind of a joke, right, So I like house

1127
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,480
it's got a time in a place, but you get it.

1128
01:03:32,519 --> 01:03:36,800
You know, you gotta put it in the back background sometimes.

1129
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:40,239
But yeah, Royo Sweetwood, it's a beautiful fucking tree. It's

1130
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:46,840
fabody subfamily, beautiful white pea flowers that smell really really pleasant.

1131
01:03:47,239 --> 01:03:49,559
And we've seen it growing in a sarroyo at fifteen

1132
01:03:49,639 --> 01:03:56,079
hundred feet with Brocelia liciniata and Senegalia righty I And

1133
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,599
there was even already a knackwa there bradge in ac,

1134
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,599
which is a common South Texas plant. It's a volunteer

1135
01:04:03,519 --> 01:04:06,639
all throughout South Texas. You know, it pops up everywhere

1136
01:04:06,639 --> 01:04:08,360
and all the garden beds and shit because the birds

1137
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,199
eat the berries and shit out the seats. How do

1138
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,159
I get back on a freeway? Now? It should be fun.

1139
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,639
The show was good. Bunch of people came out to it.

1140
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:18,800
They were like fifty five people that came out to

1141
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,199
hear me speak, even though not all of them spoke English,

1142
01:04:21,199 --> 01:04:25,239
and my Spanish is not perfect, so but it was

1143
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,280
fucking awesome. It was really, it was really fun. A

1144
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,920
lot of a lot of cool people came through hangout.

1145
01:04:31,559 --> 01:04:37,400
We went to last and Suela Park in which is

1146
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:44,920
like this little canyon in Monterrey. South of Monterrey, it's

1147
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,440
like the gateway to the Sierra Madre. I guess well,

1148
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,199
I stake a canyon got all fucked up in the

1149
01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:51,840
flood they had two years ago, so you can't get

1150
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,519
in there. There's no more getting in there to see

1151
01:04:53,519 --> 01:04:57,719
Alba Pelousa Pelosa. Al gave Albo Pelosa. At least not driving.

1152
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,599
You're gonna have to part of the Some of them

1153
01:05:00,679 --> 01:05:03,920
roads got taken out massive flood, but they needed it.

1154
01:05:05,639 --> 01:05:07,599
But yeah, the show was great. It was really fun.

1155
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,840
And uh, and my friend Carlos came out as Tikim

1156
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,800
everybody knows as Tiki. Well, I hadn't seen in a

1157
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:19,280
long time. Great to see him. He's like probably one

1158
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,199
of the best bodanists in Nuevo Leone. This is how

1159
01:05:22,239 --> 01:05:23,840
I fucking get on and god damn it, what a

1160
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,000
pain in the ass. I think this is how you

1161
01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:27,840
do it. I don't know. These roads are a fuck,

1162
01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:35,280
They're a clusterfuck. But yeah, so I saw him and uh,

1163
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,800
he brought his wife out to who's great. She studies

1164
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,079
native bees. She's I've been hearing about her for a while.

1165
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,519
She studies native bees, and uh, this looks thoroughly fucking confusing.

1166
01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:48,400
God damn it. Let me put this down for a

1167
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:49,960
minute so I can out. There we go and a

1168
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,960
big sign for Reinosa. Here we go, beautiful Reinosa. I

1169
01:05:53,079 --> 01:06:00,280
never that's beautiful Reynosa. Taste the flavors of Reynosa from

1170
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,559
the burning garbage dump? Where is that point source of pollution?

1171
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,719
Every night in my town, I can smell burning plastic

1172
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,199
and they do it at night, dude, they don't do

1173
01:06:09,239 --> 01:06:10,760
it during to day. I wonder where it comes from.

1174
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,039
Is it coming from Reinosa it smells like burning garbage

1175
01:06:14,119 --> 01:06:17,840
or is it a factory on the American side. Either way,

1176
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,400
it's totally sketchy and it's probably illegal, and I hope

1177
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,360
they get caught at some point because they're poisoning the

1178
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:28,119
entire town that I live in. Anyway, Yeah, so, but anyway,

1179
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:31,719
back to mural spermum. Right, it's knowing this plant for

1180
01:06:33,239 --> 01:06:35,239
a few years like I have, and loving it, and

1181
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:38,400
they're growing it from seed. We sell ceilings at Limestone,

1182
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,920
Tortoise Nursery and Segein. It's planted throughout Austin. I've got

1183
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,199
some in my yard. The tree in my yard is

1184
01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:48,960
finally flowering, and it's just such a fucking dope plant.

1185
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,960
And to finally see it and habit that you know,

1186
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,239
is very special, right, and it's get some context for it.

1187
01:06:55,239 --> 01:06:57,639
It's like learning the story of a of a friend,

1188
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,920
or like meeting a friend's family or something like that.

1189
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:04,440
Well anyway, yeah, so it was it was really cool

1190
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,039
to see that fucking plant. The one I saw was big, too,

1191
01:07:07,159 --> 01:07:08,920
bigger than any I've seen in Texas. It was like

1192
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,320
two feet across. It was growing on the edge of

1193
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,960
this washed You know, they're ripe peri and they grow

1194
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,199
in the desert, but they're right period they're growing. It

1195
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,719
was growing in a dry arroyo bed filled with all

1196
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,719
these gravels, and it was seemed like a bit pretty

1197
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:25,039
big floodplain too. It was grown with jug lands microcarpo

1198
01:07:25,159 --> 01:07:27,800
with the little walnut which we get in West Texas too.

1199
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,400
Had a bunch of West Texas flora there, like shit

1200
01:07:30,519 --> 01:07:35,760
you don't see in in the Rio Grand Valley because

1201
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:40,039
it's it's too hot there. So it's it's really point

1202
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:42,000
helps me point out, like you know, there, helps me

1203
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:44,920
realize how unique the area where I live is, the

1204
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,400
Rio Grand Valley is hot as fuck. It's hotter than

1205
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:52,400
most of the places you'll see here in Mexico, just

1206
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,639
because of how low it is, I suppose, and probably

1207
01:07:54,639 --> 01:07:57,679
because it's been turned into a heat island, because you know,

1208
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,320
it's there's so much development there, so much. There's more

1209
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,880
development in Texas than Mexico. You come to Mexico, the

1210
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,920
fucking land is in such better shape. It's amazing. Saw

1211
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,559
Ariocarpus trigonus before we went to the arroyo where miro

1212
01:08:10,639 --> 01:08:13,599
Spermum was growing. That was cool too. Didn't expect that.

1213
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:18,880
We were driving by some habitat and some undulating hills

1214
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,439
and a bunch of scrub and it just looked incredible.

1215
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,479
So I stopped and there was Timopla microporoides there, which

1216
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,600
is another West Texas plant, and then Ariocarpus trigonus too.

1217
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,680
But it looked like donkeys in NIBBLDNA, right, there was

1218
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,760
donkey shit. Ever, I know it was the fucking donkeys.

1219
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:36,439
The donkeys do a lot of damage, right, they're cutest shit,

1220
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,399
especially when you put them in little hats and stuff,

1221
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,439
but they do do a lot of damage to the flora.

1222
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,359
And there was a kind of serious Pitchyi a different

1223
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:49,920
subspecies though, and one of the cantas enters berg Mannii,

1224
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:54,159
one of the cactusnerds, identified it for me on Ininett, right.

1225
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,239
You know the cactus ands. They go on there every

1226
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,960
day and they get alerts and they just bliss their hearts.

1227
01:08:59,039 --> 01:09:01,039
It's good for him to, you know, because it's I

1228
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:03,520
wouldn't know what this was. I don't. It would take

1229
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,439
me forever to key this stuff out. Way you just

1230
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,479
go through a checklist like anyway, It's not the point.

1231
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,640
It was incredible habitat. It was limestone substrate, felt a

1232
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,760
lot like West Texas, but with elements of the South

1233
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:20,159
Texas flora in there. Cremerio ramosissima was abundant. That hemi

1234
01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:24,640
parasitic plant that is, you know, gets about two feet tall.

1235
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:29,239
There was Callandra conferta there as well, which is another

1236
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,079
great plant that my buddy Matt Kaufman grew, and I

1237
01:09:34,119 --> 01:09:37,119
think I collected seeds from some of the populations in

1238
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:40,439
South Texas. In South Texas, it only grows in rocky

1239
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,399
areas like on some of the goliad gravels and conglomerates.

1240
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,520
Doesn't like deep soils because it'll get outcompeted by things

1241
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,720
that get taller than it. It's a mimosoid legome. It's

1242
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,680
got really cool flowers that things should be in way

1243
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,520
more common and cultivating. All this shit should be way

1244
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:58,479
more common in cultivation. There's such fantastic plants underappreciated, and

1245
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,960
they're underappreciated because the horticultural atrocity culture that I'm always

1246
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,520
making fun of. That was big too. That was like

1247
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,039
a big thing, I think because that ship is so

1248
01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:12,079
abundant in Mexico too. You know, the obwellita plants right,

1249
01:10:13,079 --> 01:10:17,800
the like Spanish colonial garden style that every people who

1250
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,119
came to the talk I did a couple of days

1251
01:10:21,119 --> 01:10:24,279
ago at University of Nuevo Leone. You know we're saying

1252
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:27,239
that too. They were laughing at it. Carlos was even like,

1253
01:10:27,279 --> 01:10:29,920
you know, that's what you said is dangerous because it

1254
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:35,239
attacks the power structures of you know, ship that I

1255
01:10:35,239 --> 01:10:37,279
don't know. I should have asked them to actually explain

1256
01:10:37,319 --> 01:10:39,439
that a little bit more. But yeah, I mean that's

1257
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,159
you know, that's the ship that people in authority love, right,

1258
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:47,720
the horticultural atrocities, everything neat uniform lines. Uh you know,

1259
01:10:48,279 --> 01:10:51,319
when you of course you grow up being in doctrinated

1260
01:10:51,359 --> 01:10:53,439
and brainwashed thinking that's what plants are supposed to look like.

1261
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:58,239
You end up hating nature and thinking it's messy. So yeah,

1262
01:10:58,239 --> 01:10:59,600
it was cool. It was cool. And then I brought

1263
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,479
some merch too, but but I couldn't. I can't sell

1264
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,079
them for what I sell them for in the States,

1265
01:11:06,119 --> 01:11:09,439
you know, so Tray Santos pacils what I was selling

1266
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,680
his shirts for, which is like seventeen bucks, which is

1267
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,079
like I make like four dollars off of it. But

1268
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:18,359
that's okay. It's Mexico, right, It's different. It's it's it's unequal.

1269
01:11:18,399 --> 01:11:22,000
It's an uneven distribution of wealth in terms of what

1270
01:11:22,039 --> 01:11:25,680
people make and shit. So and I was just happy

1271
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,800
to get good stuff out there. And then I was selling

1272
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,239
stickers for like twenty paesels each like a buck something.

1273
01:11:32,359 --> 01:11:35,359
But I should have brought them some books. But the

1274
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,279
whole fucking thing was fun, man, it was. It was

1275
01:11:37,319 --> 01:11:38,840
so cool, and there were a lot of people that

1276
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,159
came out and they were apt and and you know,

1277
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:45,439
people want to get your pictures, the pictures taking with you,

1278
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,640
which used to weird me out and not weird me out,

1279
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,399
but it would make me f I don't take compliments.

1280
01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:51,840
Well right, so I would be like okay, and then

1281
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,760
you know, but it doesn't anymore. I'm like whatever, man,

1282
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,239
it was just fucking fun. I really wish I was

1283
01:11:56,279 --> 01:11:58,800
more fluent than Spanish though, and I will be at

1284
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,600
some point, but you know, to the point to be

1285
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,159
able to talk shit and run my mouth during videos

1286
01:12:04,199 --> 01:12:08,359
like I do in English, that would be, uh, that

1287
01:12:08,359 --> 01:12:10,760
would be really nice to do, just because I think,

1288
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,800
I guess so many people tell me the videos get

1289
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,479
them into plants, and and you need a lot more

1290
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,640
people in Mexico into plants, right, like people that aren't

1291
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,239
in academia. You need more people use an eye naturalist

1292
01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:24,079
and and just getting amped about the flora here because

1293
01:12:24,079 --> 01:12:28,239
Mexico has such fucking incredibly cool plants and their habitat

1294
01:12:28,279 --> 01:12:31,079
is in such better shape than the United States. Right.

1295
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,039
To get a habitat like this, you have to go

1296
01:12:33,039 --> 01:12:35,760
to the west, the western United States, where where there's

1297
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,319
public land. In the East, it's all been fucked, right.

1298
01:12:38,359 --> 01:12:42,159
You gotta smack, you gotta uh smattering of national parks,

1299
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:44,760
but everything's private, everything's been fucked. It's an orgy of

1300
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:50,039
development and greed. It's a tumorous mindset it's gonna eat everything. Oh,

1301
01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:53,640
zebra painted highway pillars. I wonder what that's about. That's

1302
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:59,399
that's nice. So yeah, so I got to see miro spermum.

1303
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,039
It was fucking great again. If I can describe the

1304
01:13:02,079 --> 01:13:06,640
habitat for you, it's these rounded cobbles everywhere, rounded gray

1305
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:11,760
limestone cobbles, you know, weathered out of the surrounding mountains

1306
01:13:12,279 --> 01:13:15,600
at some point in the last few million years and

1307
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,680
then deposited here. It's dry. It was a broad floodplain,

1308
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,760
probably like one hundred yards across, but it was dense.

1309
01:13:24,199 --> 01:13:30,000
It was dense woodland boske like mimosoid bosque, uh in

1310
01:13:30,079 --> 01:13:35,680
the in between or like filling the whole floodplain. Right,

1311
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,479
So you know it gets floods, but only infrequently, but

1312
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,279
probably they fucking roar when they come through because a

1313
01:13:42,279 --> 01:13:44,880
lot of these boulders each way, like a you know,

1314
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,399
a kilo or two, maybe maybe half a kilo, I

1315
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,640
don't know, not boulders, cobbles, you know, So to be

1316
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:56,000
deposited there, it must take a big flood. But you

1317
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,880
know it's it's not a running stream. It's dry. So

1318
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,439
but yes, a galia righty eye Jue Glenn's microcarpa. There

1319
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,439
was even leather stem jo Tropha diaheca just growing up

1320
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,239
amidst the cobbles bunch of Tritax procumbins, which is, you know,

1321
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:15,960
an invasive weed basically everywhere that's not Central America. Triex

1322
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,039
is the cool genus, though, goddamn, there are some cool

1323
01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:22,920
tritex out there, like Tritex candidissima, the gypsum endemic and

1324
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,520
san Luis poto c and Tridex Mexicana I think is

1325
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,560
another one. Then there's a Tritex waja kana I forget.

1326
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,560
I don't know, man, maybe I'm fucking those up. Go

1327
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,079
to my iad if you want to see what other

1328
01:14:33,119 --> 01:14:38,960
species of Tritex there are as through ac and uh yeah,

1329
01:14:39,039 --> 01:14:42,000
and so this, you know, to see the fucking habitat

1330
01:14:42,079 --> 01:14:44,000
of this rare plant. I don't know why it's so rare,

1331
01:14:44,039 --> 01:14:47,560
probably just because it's riparian and you know, humans tend

1332
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,680
to fuck up creeks a lot. I don't know, but

1333
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,520
it's in cultivation in Texas, and that's a plant they

1334
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,119
should definitely sell at home, despot, just because it's so

1335
01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:59,119
fucking beautiful and it smells so good. And you I

1336
01:14:59,119 --> 01:15:01,479
feel like you can get nor means, you know, people

1337
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,960
that aren't into bodany or native plants, you feel like

1338
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,159
you get into you can get them into a royal sweetwood.

1339
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:09,399
So we usually can get them to appreciate it. It's

1340
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,199
such a beautiful tree. It looks kind of like a

1341
01:15:11,239 --> 01:15:16,960
locust tree without the spines. And then it's got this

1342
01:15:17,119 --> 01:15:20,800
does flowers as fuck. They smell good, so good they

1343
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:25,640
smell anyway. But the interesting thing that the habitat we

1344
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,399
stopped that before we went to see the royal sweetwood

1345
01:15:29,159 --> 01:15:31,680
was you know, we're there. I just saw there some

1346
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,359
cool scrub and there was like mafola and cremeria. There

1347
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,399
was Salvia tex aana there too. The habitat we stopped

1348
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,359
at there climbing up that was you know, I was like,

1349
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,600
let's go to the hill. Go up these hills because

1350
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,960
it probably changes a little bit. It's a little bit drier.

1351
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:50,000
We're gonna see a different composition of plants. And sure enough,

1352
01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:55,199
you get up there and there was fucking manahat Subspacatta. Shit,

1353
01:15:55,359 --> 01:15:57,319
did I go the wrong way? What a fucking pain

1354
01:15:57,359 --> 01:16:01,760
in the ass. What's going on here? Oh damn it? Oops?

1355
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,640
I think I went the wrong way. Oh, hold on,

1356
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,399
I did go wrong way. Let me put this down.

1357
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,159
That's a fucking panting ass. You know this. Google Maps

1358
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:12,239
just sucks so much. I used to be so good

1359
01:16:12,279 --> 01:16:16,800
at navigating. That's a beautiful monazuma Cyprus woodland. Oh, it's

1360
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,439
all draped in Spanish moss, got mountains in the background.

1361
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,800
Going over this bridge that just went like twenty minutes

1362
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,319
out of the way. Well it's gonna end up twenty minutes.

1363
01:16:25,359 --> 01:16:27,319
I missed the I missed the curve because it didn't

1364
01:16:27,319 --> 01:16:34,159
notify me. Right, But anyway, but yet, so God, there's

1365
01:16:34,199 --> 01:16:37,359
the habitat here that lant is just so nice. So

1366
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,600
Manahat subspacata that grows in one place. I've only seen

1367
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,039
a single plant in the Corpus Christie area growing with

1368
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,000
Kama Crista gregy ie that other weird you know, park

1369
01:16:48,039 --> 01:16:51,560
Fridge Peak. We get Cama Crista fisiculada in the States

1370
01:16:52,279 --> 01:16:58,079
and it's more of like an herb. But but this

1371
01:16:58,119 --> 01:17:00,600
thing is a shrub Cama crista greggy, and that that

1372
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,000
grows with Mannahat subspecata, and it was grown with it

1373
01:17:03,039 --> 01:17:06,920
here too, And they grow at this one little area

1374
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,760
in Corpus Christie and those are the only places in

1375
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,399
Texas that they grow, like right kind of near Lake

1376
01:17:11,399 --> 01:17:14,760
Corpus Christie off Boat Ramp Road and some you know,

1377
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,680
some jagavhones. It's there's private property signs up everywhere. You

1378
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,399
got a trespass if you want to go look at it.

1379
01:17:20,399 --> 01:17:22,560
But it's so curious to me. It's like, why did

1380
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,800
these all these same plants out Here's a pemix. I

1381
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,079
gotta get guess. Anyway, all these same plants, Uh, you know,

1382
01:17:30,119 --> 01:17:33,159
do you see occurring together here also occur together over there?

1383
01:17:33,319 --> 01:17:36,239
Was there at one point the continuous distribution or was

1384
01:17:36,279 --> 01:17:39,800
it just a dispersal event, just chance dispersal of the

1385
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,920
same flora. It really makes you wonder, you know, and

1386
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,560
how far back does it go? Like does did this

1387
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:52,520
this divergence happen between these two populations? Yeah, it was

1388
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,439
really cool. I did not expect to see manahat subspecatta there,

1389
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,399
which is again an extremely rare plant. It's a rare

1390
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,920
plant in the Waveling Own. It's even more rare in Texas.

1391
01:18:01,319 --> 01:18:04,079
Manahat is the genus of the plant known as yuca,

1392
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:10,640
which gets eaten for its edible, tuberous roots. That's Mannahat esculenta.

1393
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:16,920
And this, uh yeah, Manahat subspectata is a little bit more.

1394
01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:19,159
I don't know if you get I don't think you

1395
01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:22,880
can eat. It's probably toxic or something. But I'm seeing

1396
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,119
this waiting line. It shouldn't be too painful, mildly painful.

1397
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:30,319
We'll see you. You know, the magna. But there's this

1398
01:18:30,319 --> 01:18:32,159
guy with a stick around the back of his chilic.

1399
01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:36,079
It says, yo yo, love tigers, d grays. It's nice.

1400
01:18:36,119 --> 01:18:38,199
I wonder what he is. That a slang words it

1401
01:18:38,279 --> 01:18:41,800
like cougar's. He's saying he loves cougars to each their

1402
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:47,079
own pal right to each their own. Anyway, Mannahat subspeccata

1403
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,359
growing with with komara. God fuck, everything was flowering too.

1404
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,119
There was a really pretty line um there, really pretty

1405
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:59,920
flax with those bright orange flowers. It was just gore.

1406
01:19:00,119 --> 01:19:03,079
Just everything was lit up, man right, and they got

1407
01:19:03,319 --> 01:19:06,800
got some rain. So yeah, anyway, that was cool. So

1408
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,239
the man A substiticated was flowering. It was fruit and

1409
01:19:09,279 --> 01:19:12,439
got some nice money shots, some good pictures of it.

1410
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,159
Then then there was neo Pringlia integrafolio, which is a

1411
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:18,079
plant that should really be in cultivation in Texas. I

1412
01:19:18,079 --> 01:19:20,319
don't know why it doesn't get into South Texas at all.

1413
01:19:20,359 --> 01:19:23,000
I feel like there must have been a population there

1414
01:19:23,039 --> 01:19:25,880
at some point because the habit it's not that far away.

1415
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,760
In the habitat is so similar. This is a tree

1416
01:19:29,399 --> 01:19:34,359
that's in the family Salea Casey. It's in the willow family,

1417
01:19:35,359 --> 01:19:37,359
and it's it's cool. I would love to grow it.

1418
01:19:37,359 --> 01:19:39,600
It loves full sun, it grows in the scrub, It's

1419
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,239
tough as nails, and it occurs throughout Mexico. I wonder

1420
01:19:43,279 --> 01:19:46,960
at some point did it occur in South Texas and

1421
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,680
the thorn scrubs somewhere then it got destroyed. It's like,

1422
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,960
you know, it's like helliada parvafoyia, which does occur in Texas,

1423
01:19:54,199 --> 01:19:56,319
and it's also a small tree and is also much

1424
01:19:56,319 --> 01:19:59,560
more common in the same habitat throughout Mexico. Why do

1425
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:07,319
we have hell but not the neo pringlea? So anyway, Yeah,

1426
01:20:07,319 --> 01:20:10,159
so lots of fascinating shit. I saw hesperallo too. I

1427
01:20:10,159 --> 01:20:12,720
think it was if it was funifera or a hybrid

1428
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:18,920
between Funifera and parvifolia. You know, Hesperallo is uh. They

1429
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,760
look like a cross between philiferous yucca and a small agave,

1430
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:25,800
and then they get a big flower stock with a

1431
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:31,359
companiulate bell shaped flower. There was a Gave univitata there.

1432
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,960
There was a kind of a gave striata, which is

1433
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,239
common throughout Mexico. I've grown that before. Really prone to rot,

1434
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,840
very thin leaves. It's a beautiful plant, very poky, but

1435
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:46,079
it doesn't have spines on the leaf margins like the

1436
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:48,039
genus of Gave. It does. Used to be lumped into

1437
01:20:48,079 --> 01:20:50,800
the genus of Gave. They're closely related. They came out

1438
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,920
on either side of Manfreda and a phylogeny I guess. Anyway, Yeah,

1439
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,119
SA saw a bunch of good shit. You know, most

1440
01:20:57,119 --> 01:20:59,039
of it occurs in Texas, some of it doesn't. Some

1441
01:20:59,119 --> 01:21:01,359
of the cact there. There was Cora phanta robust that.

1442
01:21:01,359 --> 01:21:06,000
There was neo Lloydia canoidia, another cool cactus that was flowering.

1443
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:10,079
Now it's coaching Maya conoidiah, calle Andra conferdo, really cool,

1444
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,520
little Euphorbia. Damn, I'm gonna I didn't even get to

1445
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,600
this stuff we saw in the canyon yesterday. It was

1446
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,319
like the canyon we were in yesterday felt like the east.

1447
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,680
Excuse me, it felt like the East coast. It felt

1448
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:24,720
like it felt like a you know, like a forest

1449
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,439
in Alabama, Georgia or something. Right, very music, very wet,

1450
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,239
tons and tons of really interesting stuff. Saw uh there,

1451
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,720
well we'll talk about that. And minute I saw a Stophelia,

1452
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,920
which is order Eric Kelly's the bladder pott. It's called

1453
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,560
Stephilia premlea, which is another rare one bunch of rare

1454
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,000
endemics in that little canyon. There were a bunch of

1455
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,039
people out too, enjoying it, you know, like families out

1456
01:21:47,039 --> 01:21:50,800
and ship. It's really a nice little little arroyo there,

1457
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:55,279
not a royal. It's like a creek. It's lots of

1458
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,680
platinus and uh, you know, sycamores and other stuff. Anyway,

1459
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,119
let's stay focused there. I'm trying to stay focused. So this, uh,

1460
01:22:03,159 --> 01:22:07,680
these hills, these xeric scrubland hills were fucking fantastic. And

1461
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,880
then we went in Soull the Miura sperm moment. Goddamn,

1462
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,760
it was so cool. We were so lucky to be

1463
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,319
there at at uh at that time too, like just

1464
01:22:15,359 --> 01:22:19,359
the phenology was perfect, that was flowering and just couldn't stop. Man,

1465
01:22:19,399 --> 01:22:21,880
I just you get into it out there, and god

1466
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,199
damn it, you just it's like pure dopamine rush seeing

1467
01:22:25,239 --> 01:22:29,399
all this cool shit. The other thing that was that

1468
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,279
was interesting was, you know what we went out to

1469
01:22:31,279 --> 01:22:33,399
eat yesterday, went on out to like the Mexican equivalent

1470
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,439
of it, Denny. So I forget the name pizzazz or

1471
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,840
pad plazas, I forget the name of the spot. Anyway,

1472
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,920
we went out there stuffed our faces. I really can't

1473
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,000
wait to get back to my vegetable steamer where I

1474
01:22:43,039 --> 01:22:45,600
can just eat broccoli and fish all day, right, so

1475
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,279
I can eat healthy. It's bad enough I live in

1476
01:22:47,319 --> 01:22:49,960
Texas because Texas poisons you there. You know, there's no

1477
01:22:50,039 --> 01:22:52,560
walking infrastructure. You're forced to drive everywhere, and the food

1478
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:57,000
is all fucking cheese and you know, just just beefy, meaty,

1479
01:22:57,159 --> 01:23:02,000
fucking shove it down your gullet, you know, horrible stuff right,

1480
01:23:02,039 --> 01:23:07,159
like colon cancer on a plate. But uh but uh yeah,

1481
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:08,800
So I want to get back to my little basic

1482
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,920
I've I've been steaming a lot of broccoli. Throw some

1483
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:15,239
fucking soy sauce on there, cauliflower, the veggies, Maybe get

1484
01:23:15,279 --> 01:23:20,520
some salmon, some tilapia, et cetera. Carrots do a lot

1485
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,520
of steam care. I got this fucking vegetable steamer. It

1486
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,279
changed my life. Man, it's really did. It's so easy, right,

1487
01:23:26,359 --> 01:23:29,359
you just you just fill it up and uh and

1488
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,680
like not like a calendar, because that's a pain in

1489
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,199
the ass. I like it. There's it's its own appliance, right,

1490
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,560
and then it's easy to clean too. And you can

1491
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,560
cook anything in there, right, cook some Uh. You know,

1492
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,520
my daughter likes to eat hot dogs. I cook her

1493
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,880
hot dogs. Okay, we're getting distracted. So we went out

1494
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,920
to eat, and you know, we were talking about all

1495
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,159
the history, like Mexican Revolution, the Ahito system, why the

1496
01:23:53,239 --> 01:23:55,439
land here is in such better shape. You know, there's

1497
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,359
more litter, but there's less development, whereas in the United

1498
01:23:58,359 --> 01:24:01,560
States there's less litter but there's one hundred times more development.

1499
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,680
But and so yeah, we were you know, I guess

1500
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,800
I didn't know who was it. Zapata or you know

1501
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,680
it was Pancho Villa was a fucking nut job. He

1502
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,600
was a real psycho. I guess I didn't know that

1503
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,920
he was kind of an asshole. Zapata was pretty cool.

1504
01:24:17,119 --> 01:24:20,399
Pancho Villa was a fucking jerk, like a rapist and shit,

1505
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,359
I guess so it makes you wonder when you know

1506
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,439
next time you eat it a Takorea it's named Pancho Villa, right,

1507
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:29,239
have a little apprehension. Surprise they didn't cancel him down there.

1508
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,319
We were talking about how Mexicans don't have the aversion

1509
01:24:32,359 --> 01:24:36,960
to the word retard like the Wolk identity politics thing. Again,

1510
01:24:37,239 --> 01:24:39,159
no one uses retard to make fun of people that

1511
01:24:39,159 --> 01:24:42,920
are mentally disabled, right, You use it for people that

1512
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,920
are acting goody. No one would actually make fun of

1513
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,039
someone that's mentally disabled. Maybe some kids, because kids can

1514
01:24:48,119 --> 01:24:51,159
be cruel, right. But what got me into using it

1515
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:53,920
was the fact that the fucking people you know that

1516
01:24:54,199 --> 01:24:57,159
are so annoying, like the Karins and shit, I'm sorry

1517
01:24:57,159 --> 01:24:59,079
if this is you, we can just agree to disagree.

1518
01:24:59,359 --> 01:25:02,079
But the people that lead it actually like those kinds

1519
01:25:02,079 --> 01:25:04,920
of people who look like they already always shit their pants,

1520
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:09,239
generally Caucasian, you know this, constantly pouting mmm, like it's

1521
01:25:09,319 --> 01:25:11,560
I the fact that they always had an avert. I

1522
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,159
nemver used to say the word retard. When I saw

1523
01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:15,279
them having an aversion to it, then I wanted to

1524
01:25:15,319 --> 01:25:17,199
use them more. Was like, well, fuck you You're an

1525
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:20,479
annoying plot right now. You make me wanted to You're

1526
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,720
like the one that you're the You're the kind of

1527
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,880
people that helped get trumpelicted because you were so fucking

1528
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,760
insufferable without everything and you have no sense of humor

1529
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,880
and your fucking whatever. You know, I've rant about this

1530
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,439
all the time. I'm sorry. Really got to break into

1531
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,520
it though, a little bit. Guys me nuts. We talked

1532
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:41,640
about that, how there's nothing akin to that in Mexican culture.

1533
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,439
And then I was surprised too because I let out

1534
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,279
a couple f bombs during a presentation. I can't help it.

1535
01:25:47,319 --> 01:25:49,079
I worked for the fucking roil out of fifteen years

1536
01:25:49,279 --> 01:25:51,960
and sometimes you just see such stupid shit, especially if

1537
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,159
you're talking about modern horticulture, that you gotta let it out.

1538
01:25:54,199 --> 01:25:56,840
You know, you get inflamed a little bit. And I

1539
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,439
felt bad because I thought that, you know, Mexico is

1540
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,880
generally a more socially conservative country. In some ways, it's

1541
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,680
very much more liberal and progressive and other Holy fuck,

1542
01:26:06,399 --> 01:26:09,680
fucking settle down. Buddy's ship heading a jeep just blazed

1543
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,560
by me like one hundred and twenty miles per hour.

1544
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:16,079
What is that in kilometers pro I don't know anyway,

1545
01:26:16,119 --> 01:26:18,079
and so, uh, you know, so I thought I was

1546
01:26:18,159 --> 01:26:23,439
gonna offend more people there with the F bombs, but uh,

1547
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,199
they were like, no, man, like we cursal the Mexican's

1548
01:26:26,199 --> 01:26:29,119
curse all the time, Like we as a society curse

1549
01:26:29,159 --> 01:26:31,359
all of the time. You know, the China, there's ching goons,

1550
01:26:31,359 --> 01:26:36,119
always letting shit out, and uh and it's you know,

1551
01:26:36,199 --> 01:26:39,880
people curse on TV here, like dropping F bombs the

1552
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,079
Mexican equivalent of an F bomb on TV here. So

1553
01:26:43,079 --> 01:26:44,640
so you're fine. And so I was saying, oh, wow,

1554
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,439
that's interesting, that's cool to know, okay, and they were like, yeah,

1555
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,119
I don't you know, because they were saying, I read

1556
01:26:49,159 --> 01:26:53,399
the comments on your videos sometimes and there's people, you know,

1557
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,039
they'd say they get offended, and it always looks like

1558
01:26:56,079 --> 01:26:58,000
the kind of person that would be offended, you know

1559
01:26:58,079 --> 01:27:01,119
that you say that you swear, and like that's so

1560
01:27:01,199 --> 01:27:04,039
foreign to me to us here in Mexic because people

1561
01:27:04,079 --> 01:27:07,279
don't really do that. You know, people don't really get

1562
01:27:07,319 --> 01:27:11,319
offended at swear words. They're not like slurs, you know.

1563
01:27:13,239 --> 01:27:15,239
So it is, it is. It's an American thing, like

1564
01:27:15,279 --> 01:27:17,199
both the work identity politics. Of course you get a

1565
01:27:17,239 --> 01:27:19,800
little bit of that in Mexican City. But and then

1566
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,479
of course the well certainly the right wing version of

1567
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,000
that nut job, where as American too. But that being

1568
01:27:27,039 --> 01:27:30,159
offended it as swear words, right, like it's it's so

1569
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,840
that that is so fucking weird to me, and you

1570
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,479
don't you be offended it. I can understand being offended

1571
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,439
at slurs, right, except retard, which is not a slur,

1572
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:40,920
despite what some fucking Karen's gonna think. It's an able.

1573
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,119
It's a slurry shot. That fuck up, shut up, shut up.

1574
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,880
I just just do you you want to like police

1575
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,720
other people and feel good about it, That's what it is.

1576
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,800
Be honest about at least a God damn, I got

1577
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:57,600
another toll to go through. So uh so, Yeah, that

1578
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,359
was an enlightening conversation that we just talked about Mexican history,

1579
01:28:00,399 --> 01:28:03,079
which is just so fascinating to me. The haciendas, the

1580
01:28:03,119 --> 01:28:07,720
fucking the ruling class, the overlords that were taking land

1581
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,119
away from people. Imagine if that had happened in the

1582
01:28:10,199 --> 01:28:14,760
United States, right, it should have really should have. Yeah,

1583
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,560
it was funny. I wanted to go get the stogies

1584
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,680
last night because you can get Cuban cigars here. And

1585
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,920
I like cigars. I know it's fucking corny. I'm like

1586
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,119
a you know, pre emergent old man, but just fucking

1587
01:28:25,159 --> 01:28:28,840
let me be and so uh and you know, because

1588
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,880
you don't get that. I used to smoke cigarettes and

1589
01:28:31,079 --> 01:28:35,359
I quit like fifteen years ago, thank god. But damn,

1590
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,000
it's so nice to be able to just puff on

1591
01:28:38,039 --> 01:28:40,039
a cigar because you don't take it into your lungs.

1592
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,880
You still just you know, absorbing it through the blood

1593
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,760
vessels in your mouth, and you also taste it. And

1594
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,920
it's nice when you have a nice one. So I

1595
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,680
wanted to get a Cuban so we went to this.

1596
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,479
We went to this by all the cigar stores were

1597
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:56,199
in the rich area of Monterey, you know San Pedro too,

1598
01:28:56,199 --> 01:28:59,960
which is like car dealerships. You imagine everyone have to

1599
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:02,399
people to live there. Fucking plastic surgeons too, because that's

1600
01:29:02,399 --> 01:29:04,520
really big down here. You know mar al Lago face,

1601
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,840
You get your lips slapped around, get some shit injected

1602
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,000
to them. They take fat from your ass and put

1603
01:29:09,039 --> 01:29:11,479
it in your cheeks. What do they do? What's the

1604
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:15,199
life of a plastic surgeon in Monterrey? Like I wonder right,

1605
01:29:15,319 --> 01:29:17,439
how does it differ from the life of a plastic

1606
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:22,880
surgeon in fucking Miami or god, what a what a

1607
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,880
weird world we live in? What a weird world? Oh,

1608
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,359
it's so funny. It's it's really when you see like

1609
01:29:28,399 --> 01:29:31,920
a good plastic surgery face, like a good fucking you

1610
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,960
know what I mean, Like someone who's like it just

1611
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,800
looks good, not in a good way good, it looks

1612
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,039
good in a bad way, like it's funny, like they

1613
01:29:41,039 --> 01:29:44,760
look like a lizard, like a just so ridiculous. It's

1614
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,640
it's hilarious, like it's it's a it's it is. It's

1615
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,479
an enjoyable thing to think about. For me, at least,

1616
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,399
I think it's fucking hilarious. Ok So yeah, But so

1617
01:29:53,399 --> 01:29:55,960
we were driving through San Pedro owners all these like

1618
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,359
car dealerships. They get the you know BYD dealerships, the

1619
01:29:59,359 --> 01:30:02,680
electric cars you can't sell in the US because it

1620
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,439
competes with Tesla and and uh, you know, a bunch

1621
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,560
of fancy ship. It was a fancy neighborhood. It's like

1622
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,520
on the other side of this little mountain had some

1623
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:16,079
curb cool murals on this giant wall on either side

1624
01:30:16,079 --> 01:30:19,039
of the mountain too. But so we go. We yeah,

1625
01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:21,840
we get these these stogies, and it was like in

1626
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,520
this like kind of wretched mall. It was super frace

1627
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,359
of super fancy, but it was like six bucks for

1628
01:30:28,399 --> 01:30:30,520
a decent cigar. So it was nice. It was nice

1629
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,079
to indulge. And I'm glad that Adrian was down to

1630
01:30:34,079 --> 01:30:37,000
try it too, so I got a photo of him later.

1631
01:30:37,039 --> 01:30:40,760
He looked like a fucking general. He was wearing like

1632
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,319
this green army shirt, like buttoned down army shirt in

1633
01:30:44,359 --> 01:30:47,039
a little head and he was smoking a stogy. It

1634
01:30:47,079 --> 01:30:48,520
was funny. I was like, man, you look like some

1635
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,600
sort of fucking like Cuban general. Right now? Is this

1636
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,600
the right way? Yeah? Right now? So there we go.

1637
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:58,000
God damn it. Kuota not Libra, not not the Libramento.

1638
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,760
We want the toll road and get they're faster. But

1639
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,840
the river that goes through Montterrey, the Rio Santa Catarina,

1640
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,920
is it's a beauty. I mean it could be a

1641
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,159
fucking beautiful river. It could be like a bike path

1642
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:16,520
and like running path and nature trails and shit. And

1643
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,479
I guess they used to have golf courses there and

1644
01:31:19,079 --> 01:31:21,199
go karts and it all got destroyed. Twenty years ago

1645
01:31:21,239 --> 01:31:23,640
in an epic flood. But you know it could be

1646
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,000
like a wonderful spot, and I guess there are groups

1647
01:31:26,039 --> 01:31:29,199
working to restore it into a wonderful spot, to fill

1648
01:31:29,279 --> 01:31:32,239
with native plants, with some of the cool flora. And

1649
01:31:32,279 --> 01:31:34,760
it's right there. You know, you have at the gateway

1650
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,800
to the to the mountains. Right which the mountains are

1651
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,479
these horizontal beds of limestone that have been flipped up

1652
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,680
nearly vertically. Look at it on a map, man, I mean,

1653
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,359
look at it on like Google terrain layer and you'll

1654
01:31:45,399 --> 01:31:47,960
see what I'm talking about. All these fold thrust belts,

1655
01:31:48,159 --> 01:31:53,319
incredible geology, These these these horizontal bedding planes flipped up

1656
01:31:53,359 --> 01:31:56,760
at like eighty degree angles that have basically made it

1657
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,960
possible for all these rock wall plants to evolve their

1658
01:32:00,119 --> 01:32:03,399
like a gave albo palosa, which was just described twenty

1659
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:05,680
years ago, and all the you know, the hanging gardens

1660
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:10,239
of Nuevo Leone, the hanging gardens of Monterrey, Mexico. There's

1661
01:32:10,239 --> 01:32:12,560
a ton of Moretonia gregy guy there too, which is

1662
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,720
a plant we only get very sparingly in South Texas.

1663
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,479
But you know, the I guess the municipality goes in

1664
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,640
and it's the same stupid shit they do where I live,

1665
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,760
where they clear out all the vegetation of the river

1666
01:32:27,319 --> 01:32:30,520
because they think that it's gonna clog the river. It's messy,

1667
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:35,199
And it's like these really archaic views on plant life

1668
01:32:35,199 --> 01:32:37,920
that I'm all too used to seeing, especially where I live.

1669
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,520
That if you know, if we don't clear this stuff

1670
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,239
out and cut it down and remove it and just

1671
01:32:43,279 --> 01:32:48,640
have a barren, bleak, fucking waterway that's dry most of

1672
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,399
the year anyway, if we don't do that, then when

1673
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,760
it floods, it's gonna it's gonna clog. It's gonna quote

1674
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,600
clog up, right, Like, well, what did it do in

1675
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,359
the last fucking the last you know, however many millions

1676
01:32:59,359 --> 01:33:02,840
of years did it clog up? Then No, it's fucking fine, Like,

1677
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,399
don't worry about it, just stop fucking with it, right,

1678
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,039
things could be so nice, But you think there's just

1679
01:33:09,079 --> 01:33:12,039
no sense behind any of this shit. So I think

1680
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,800
I think there's a group. I would love to learn

1681
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,199
more about them. I forget, I forget the name of them,

1682
01:33:18,199 --> 01:33:20,880
But there's a group working to restore that river. And

1683
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:22,479
and you know, because that's where you need plant life

1684
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,640
the most. Man, that's where you need you need native

1685
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,479
plant life the most is around cities, or you need

1686
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,560
them where the people are so that people can be

1687
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:34,000
exposed to them and appreciate them instead of just having

1688
01:33:34,039 --> 01:33:38,199
these you know, abject shitholes of concrete and cars. Like

1689
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:41,680
the car thing in Monterey is insane. Cities just held

1690
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,800
hostage by cars, right, like, just just not much public

1691
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,800
translit I think they got a monorail and maybe an

1692
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:54,520
aerial subway, but but there's just cars everywhere. It's all

1693
01:33:54,560 --> 01:34:00,159
for it's all car shit, and so you know, so

1694
01:34:00,199 --> 01:34:01,720
if you have to if you want to get somewhere,

1695
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,000
you've got to be in a car. And then the

1696
01:34:03,039 --> 01:34:06,119
fucking ariage just thinks it's polluted as shit. Everybody drives

1697
01:34:06,159 --> 01:34:10,960
like assholes. It's just a mess. Cars turn people into

1698
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:15,640
assholes anyway. Right, you're behind this glass. You just want

1699
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,000
to go, go, go, get out of my way. You're upset,

1700
01:34:18,119 --> 01:34:22,359
you're isolated from people, Like people behave ways in cars

1701
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,560
that they would never behave if they were just you know,

1702
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,760
walking next to someone you know, or sitting next to

1703
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:34,439
them on a subway whatever. So it's weird and they're

1704
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,439
still I mean, they just want to be like Texas

1705
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,640
too so much, you know, so they're found the same

1706
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:40,800
mono rays doing this and they're building the same shit

1707
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,399
that Texas is building. Right, Like if you drive through

1708
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,840
San Antonio, you see all these just never ending infrastructure

1709
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:51,159
projects for roads and freeways. It's like, man, at what

1710
01:34:51,199 --> 01:34:53,680
point do we just start building things differently? And then

1711
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:55,920
you know, at what point is the amount of land

1712
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,800
that you've seated over to cars? Does it just is?

1713
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,479
It is? It just doesn't make any sense. I mean,

1714
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,800
it's just you've you've lost You've seated so much space

1715
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:07,800
to cars. There's barely enough for people anymore, you know,

1716
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,239
or for infrastructure, Like what could that space be used

1717
01:35:10,279 --> 01:35:12,479
for if you took all of all the cars away,

1718
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:17,439
or or you know, made spaces that were made neighborhoods

1719
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:20,359
that you couldn't drive to the park on the outside

1720
01:35:20,399 --> 01:35:22,680
of it and it was built for walking and public

1721
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,359
transit and shit. So I don't know. I ran about

1722
01:35:25,359 --> 01:35:27,199
this stuff all the time, I know, but god damn,

1723
01:35:27,239 --> 01:35:29,840
it's just we're gonna look back on this and the

1724
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,880
way that we have cars and cities throughout the West.

1725
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,720
We're gonna look back on this in one hundred years

1726
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,439
if we haven't gone extinct, and you know, we're gonna

1727
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,880
look back on the same way we look at you know,

1728
01:35:39,239 --> 01:35:41,000
the fact that he used to be able to smoke

1729
01:35:41,079 --> 01:35:44,199
on an airplane. It's the same thing. It's just fucking insane.

1730
01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:48,279
It's irrational. It's it's it's there's so many people doing theory.

1731
01:35:48,279 --> 01:35:50,239
It's good, but there's so many people doing it that

1732
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:56,279
it gets it's highly inefficient. All right, So anyway, let's

1733
01:35:56,279 --> 01:36:00,840
talk about let's talk about the uh the canyon we

1734
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:06,399
went to yesterday because that was phenomenal last Ansuela and

1735
01:36:07,319 --> 01:36:10,399
we had like a little group hike we arranged. I

1736
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:13,399
just posted it on social media. We mentioned it the

1737
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,279
day before and then I posted on social media and

1738
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:20,239
we had it out there, and you know, it's it's

1739
01:36:20,279 --> 01:36:24,079
this basically found this streambed that goes into the mountains,

1740
01:36:24,119 --> 01:36:26,319
into the nooks and crannies of the mountains. Again, look

1741
01:36:26,319 --> 01:36:28,840
at the Sierra Madre, the northern Sierra Madre, and it's

1742
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,279
just all these folds and all these little nooks and

1743
01:36:32,319 --> 01:36:35,560
crannies for plants to grow in, and you know, a

1744
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:41,920
much milder, more music habitat than the surrounding opened Xeric

1745
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,800
Xeric Lands. There was a cool Arisima in there too,

1746
01:36:47,239 --> 01:36:50,399
which is a terrestrial aerid you get throughout eastern North America.

1747
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:56,039
I think this was Arissima kelsicola. It looked like Dracontium,

1748
01:36:56,039 --> 01:36:58,600
but I guess it's it's different enough that it was

1749
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:04,439
actually placed in its own beacies in the I think

1750
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,760
last year, in twenty twenty five. But by far one

1751
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,760
of my favorites that I saw there was Colubrina greggy

1752
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,359
I same genus as Colubrina texana, which is known as

1753
01:37:14,359 --> 01:37:19,399
the hog plum and throughout South Texas. But this thing

1754
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,239
was a fucking tree and just covered you know, red

1755
01:37:22,319 --> 01:37:26,359
buckthorpe family ram nascy. So you got the stamens alternating

1756
01:37:26,359 --> 01:37:30,319
with the petals alternating with the sepals, but the the

1757
01:37:30,359 --> 01:37:33,920
nectar discs on these flowers. The flowers were a little

1758
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,479
bit smaller than a marble, maybe about I don't know,

1759
01:37:38,119 --> 01:37:42,439
seven millimeters across, but the nectar discs were glistening that

1760
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,239
were filled with nectar, and the leaves were huge. It's obviously,

1761
01:37:46,399 --> 01:37:49,399
you know, because hog plum Colabrina texana is like a

1762
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,920
sandsheet plant built for the heat. It's got a cool

1763
01:37:53,039 --> 01:37:57,000
zigzag leaf branching structure. But this thing was like a

1764
01:37:57,039 --> 01:38:01,319
small tree, just a careally cool plant be really cool

1765
01:38:01,399 --> 01:38:04,800
to grow in Texas. It probably did at one point

1766
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:09,680
a long long time ago, pre certainly pre Europeans, probably

1767
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:15,159
pre almost sapiens in the New World. And so that

1768
01:38:15,319 --> 01:38:17,479
was really fucking wild to see because I saw him

1769
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:21,600
like this is a goddamn buckthorn. The flowers and the

1770
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,800
leaf shape, the leaves kind of the venation kind of

1771
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:27,000
looks like se and know this leaves. But it was

1772
01:38:27,119 --> 01:38:30,039
huge and was growing in this arroyo. I saw sin

1773
01:38:30,119 --> 01:38:32,560
Bechia there as well, which is you know only today

1774
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,560
only grows in San Benito, home of the Freddy Fender

1775
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,000
water Tower, the water tower with the Freddy Friender mua

1776
01:38:39,079 --> 01:38:41,479
on the outside. You know Texas tornadoes, you know, you

1777
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:45,520
know Freddy Fender. And and that's the last I mean,

1778
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,880
that's the last population in the United States. There used

1779
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,439
to be another one that got destroyed. I guess it's

1780
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:53,199
Citrus family rutasi. It's a beautiful tree. I've got a

1781
01:38:53,199 --> 01:38:55,439
few of them in my yard. I've planted a few out.

1782
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:58,399
They take a while to get going. They actually kind

1783
01:38:58,399 --> 01:39:01,880
of tend to like sun but they like some water too,

1784
01:39:02,399 --> 01:39:05,520
they like some moisture too, and so that I didn't

1785
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,399
expect to see that in this little canyon either. It's wild,

1786
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,479
and so that again it gives me context. It's like, yeah,

1787
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:12,359
this is where it's growing today, but it used to

1788
01:39:12,359 --> 01:39:14,479
grow in South Texas at some point, probably during the

1789
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:19,640
Pleistocene when it was a milder climate down there, you know,

1790
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:21,840
whereas now it's so hot, and so these things are

1791
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,640
just kind of left over. It's it's thinking about that.

1792
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,439
Shit is so cool. It's like, what you know that

1793
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:32,760
the David Axelrod I was always talking about. It wasn't

1794
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,439
hold on Daniel with David. I always getting confused. Daniel Axlerod,

1795
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,520
excuse me. He wrote Origins of the California Flora. He

1796
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,000
was a botanist that passed away in nineteen ninety eight.

1797
01:39:43,279 --> 01:39:45,239
It did a lot of work in California. But he

1798
01:39:45,279 --> 01:39:49,039
was always writing about distributions of these plants, and you know,

1799
01:39:49,279 --> 01:39:53,520
he was a paleobotanist. I think that was his man.

1800
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:56,039
I think he was a paleobotanist, but basically trying to

1801
01:39:56,079 --> 01:40:01,039
reconstruct distributions of plants and climates and really taking this

1802
01:40:01,159 --> 01:40:05,199
kind of broad scale view on the whole landscape, which

1803
01:40:05,239 --> 01:40:08,119
I think is just so fucking fascinating, man, you know,

1804
01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:11,119
and he was. He would wrote papers about like the

1805
01:40:11,119 --> 01:40:14,600
the Miocene flora of western Nevada, which you know, Western

1806
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,479
Nevada now is super dry, but twelve million years ago

1807
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,439
there were redwoods growing there. Let me beat this, We

1808
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:23,000
beat this, car, I gotta get up there. It's so

1809
01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:25,159
cool to see the landscape change where we are right

1810
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,560
now we're at lower elevation mont Rays at like thirteen

1811
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,760
hundred feet. Now we're dropping down, getting more into the

1812
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:35,239
undulating you know, tom a leap and thorn scrub, which

1813
01:40:35,319 --> 01:40:40,640
is generally speaking hot as balls. God, it's just in

1814
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:44,680
such good shape, man, Just like just oceans of green

1815
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:51,159
with no development. So different from what most of South Texas,

1816
01:40:51,239 --> 01:40:55,399
but most of the Rio Graham Valley has become. So

1817
01:40:55,640 --> 01:41:00,239
nice to see. God, just a bummerers, a lot of

1818
01:41:00,279 --> 01:41:02,239
cartel activity here. They saw, you know, what are you

1819
01:41:02,239 --> 01:41:06,319
gonna do? So you're gonna get kidnapped? Maybe wait it

1820
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:11,399
might head now you'll be fine. So uh So, anyway,

1821
01:41:11,399 --> 01:41:14,279
so these this little canyon, there was all kinds of

1822
01:41:14,319 --> 01:41:17,439
cool shit in there. It was like a two miles in,

1823
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,000
two miles out, but you can go a lot deeper.

1824
01:41:20,039 --> 01:41:25,239
There was about Hindia there too, that was quite abundant,

1825
01:41:25,279 --> 01:41:29,479
a native about Hinia. And then there was like blackbrush.

1826
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,119
It's it was so wild to see blackbrush growing with

1827
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:37,520
poison ivy, Like there's poison ivy in there, which we

1828
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,199
don't really get in the valley. I've only seen it

1829
01:41:39,319 --> 01:41:42,479
one place in South Texas. But it's abundant. There was

1830
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,399
you know, moist enough for it. And then in the

1831
01:41:46,359 --> 01:41:49,000
low the areas by the streams, Oh yeah, we saw

1832
01:41:49,039 --> 01:41:54,119
fucking kowates too. They're like little neotropical raccoons and they

1833
01:41:54,199 --> 01:41:58,039
were really like really adapted to people, Like they were

1834
01:41:58,079 --> 01:42:00,319
really comfortable around people. You could tell people Proba been

1835
01:42:00,319 --> 01:42:04,680
feeding them. It was fucking nuts to see such cool

1836
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:10,960
little critters. So yeah, but there was Xantha somma robust them,

1837
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:16,880
which is an aeroid like terrestrial aeroid that I was

1838
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,359
surprised to see. I thought it was the invasive what's

1839
01:42:19,359 --> 01:42:22,720
the thing that grows around Austin is a alocascia. It's

1840
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:27,600
like an aquatic aquatic aeroid that's invasive around Austin the

1841
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:31,119
Austin area. But Xantha soma, you know, was a bunch

1842
01:42:31,159 --> 01:42:34,239
of this stuff should be reintroduced on the other side

1843
01:42:34,239 --> 01:42:37,039
of the border, right, because the way the climate's going,

1844
01:42:37,159 --> 01:42:39,800
it's gonna have to migrate north at some point, and

1845
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:45,000
the less freezes that you get, the warm though warmer

1846
01:42:45,039 --> 01:42:49,520
it gets, some of this stuff should really be being

1847
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:55,600
grown up there. It's again, nothing, nothing reinforces how pointless

1848
01:42:55,600 --> 01:43:01,279
geopolitical borders are. Like studying plant life, right, Texas plants

1849
01:43:01,279 --> 01:43:05,119
are all Mexican plants. That's the same habitat. It's it's

1850
01:43:05,359 --> 01:43:09,000
these plants and this land. They're way older than these

1851
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:14,600
silly geopolitical borders that humans take. So seriously, God, people

1852
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:17,520
could be fucking depressing. Can't thing? Can't human society just

1853
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:21,399
be a fucking drag. It's really really just just fucking

1854
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:27,680
silly and stupid and just full of shit. And anyway,

1855
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:32,039
so uh, they're all kinds of cool millipedes out yesterday

1856
01:43:32,039 --> 01:43:35,239
and the canyon too, something that really surprised me. Oh

1857
01:43:35,279 --> 01:43:38,600
and tons of cool ferns too, I like anemias. There

1858
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:46,199
was tectaria heracically a folia, tons of oak diversity there, Quircus, polymorpha,

1859
01:43:47,119 --> 01:43:52,720
crotons everywhere. But something that really surprised me was I

1860
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,000
saw what looked like mex amount of Philippines, which is

1861
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,000
a plant that I love. I've grown a bunch of it.

1862
01:43:57,039 --> 01:43:59,920
I got a couple in my yard, just a farm

1863
01:44:00,079 --> 01:44:02,039
set off of it gets like five six feet tall.

1864
01:44:02,079 --> 01:44:04,640
It's more of a thorn scrub plant. But I saw

1865
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:08,119
a relative of it, baits Amalva violasia, which turned out

1866
01:44:08,159 --> 01:44:11,720
to be really rare. It has much larger purple you know,

1867
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:16,640
showy ass flowers, larger leaves. It's basically a more music

1868
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:23,319
adapted version of Maximova Philippies. And it's a microandemic too.

1869
01:44:23,359 --> 01:44:25,479
It's only known from this little canyon. It doesn't grow

1870
01:44:26,279 --> 01:44:29,520
very it grows in very few other places, which is

1871
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,640
exciting to see. It's I got. This thing is like

1872
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,560
so localized. You know, it probably grows in a couple

1873
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:40,199
other places throughout the Sierra Madre. But you know, it

1874
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,159
was so cool. At the end of the trail too.

1875
01:44:42,199 --> 01:44:44,960
You can look above the tree line. You go kind

1876
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,039
of up on this ridge a little bit and you

1877
01:44:47,079 --> 01:44:50,439
can see this just this massive monolith of limestone, just

1878
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:54,039
covered in brahea palms and yuccas and all kinds of

1879
01:44:54,039 --> 01:44:59,600
cool shit. You know pines. God, just these giant like

1880
01:45:00,119 --> 01:45:05,640
flat you know, sheer, sheer faced rock walls on this

1881
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:09,960
this giant brick of uplifted limestone, remnants of the Western

1882
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:15,359
Interior seaway. So anyway, so there was bits of Maalva,

1883
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:21,279
bits of Malva violasia. There was some red buds there,

1884
01:45:22,119 --> 01:45:25,359
so Ursus canadensis Eastern red buds. What was the There

1885
01:45:25,399 --> 01:45:28,199
was Morris rubra another. I'm telling you a lot of

1886
01:45:28,239 --> 01:45:30,479
ship that you see and it felt like, you know,

1887
01:45:31,279 --> 01:45:35,159
it felt like Alabama Georgia border, like northern Alabama Georgia border,

1888
01:45:35,239 --> 01:45:40,640
like those humid forests there. Yeah, Staphilea FRINGLEI was cool

1889
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:44,279
to see the bladder pod, which again i've seen Staphilea.

1890
01:45:44,319 --> 01:45:46,600
I for hear what species it was of staph Alea

1891
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:51,479
that I saw, but in Alabama border. Eric Hayley's it's

1892
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:54,720
in staphaly Ace it's own family. There was saw this

1893
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:59,680
really beautiful vine Cannavalia septantia analysis. It was a beautiful

1894
01:46:00,039 --> 01:46:07,159
pink flower or superinnate large apoleonaceous that is p flower

1895
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,880
from the Faboides subfamily, so banner wings and keel. But

1896
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:13,000
it was flipped over. It was huge, it was pink

1897
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:18,159
had a twisted keel. That'd be a dope vine to grow. Goddamn,

1898
01:46:18,359 --> 01:46:20,800
it would be really cool to grow one of those.

1899
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:28,359
But there were no seeds saw that there. I mean,

1900
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,680
I'm gonna leave There's gonna be stuff I leave out

1901
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:35,239
because there's so much cool cool ship and Missia Zygo maris,

1902
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:40,479
which was another Favid you know with yellow flowered favorite.

1903
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:44,560
This wasn't in It wasn't in flower, but really unique

1904
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:49,960
leaves right like really it was an herb probably herbaceous perennial,

1905
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,239
probably has a big root in the ground, but this

1906
01:46:52,279 --> 01:46:55,840
thing was like rubbery leaves, no hairs on them, growing

1907
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:57,880
in the understory of this forest on the side of

1908
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:01,399
a creek that was filled with all the cool aquatic beetles.

1909
01:47:02,039 --> 01:47:06,239
Vike Ethia mexicana was fucking great to see too. I

1910
01:47:06,239 --> 01:47:09,439
think Barton Springs Nursery in Austin used to sell that,

1911
01:47:11,359 --> 01:47:13,560
probably for too much money, but anyway, that's none of

1912
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:17,520
my business. But it's you know, that's a composite. It

1913
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,039
looks like a kind of like a sunflower. Man, it's

1914
01:47:20,079 --> 01:47:23,039
just the dyc but it's got these really really cool

1915
01:47:23,159 --> 01:47:26,560
long recurved eries. The bracts on the side of the

1916
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:29,800
flower head, on the side of the involkar, and it's bizarre.

1917
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,000
I don't think it's you know, closely related. There might

1918
01:47:32,039 --> 01:47:34,600
be one other species in the genus may maybe not

1919
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:38,239
even I first saw it at U. C. Berkeley in

1920
01:47:38,279 --> 01:47:41,560
the botanic garden there. It's the best botanic garden in

1921
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,439
a country by far, like a science botanic garden, a

1922
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:47,600
living museum of Earth's plant life. Right, it's not a

1923
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:52,720
show garden. But that was when I first became familiar

1924
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:54,960
with it. But again, to see it, you know, flowering

1925
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:59,479
and habitat on the edge of a limestone creek with

1926
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:06,159
you know, in the understory of oaks and sycamores and

1927
01:48:06,239 --> 01:48:09,279
all kinds of other cool shit and something else. So

1928
01:48:10,279 --> 01:48:12,199
it's just so nice to be Oh yeah, there was

1929
01:48:12,199 --> 01:48:17,520
acer granted than Tatum two big big tooth maple, which

1930
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:22,239
is I think I think I've seen that in the

1931
01:48:22,279 --> 01:48:24,720
Southwest as well. I've seen that in Arizona. I don't know,

1932
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:29,279
but you get it in Texas as well. Maple's normally

1933
01:48:29,319 --> 01:48:31,159
like a lot of water. It was crazy. It's always

1934
01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:34,159
weird to see them in Xeric areas. But again, this

1935
01:48:34,359 --> 01:48:38,760
is like a little refugia a little canyon right, it's

1936
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:45,279
like a much more humid than the surrounding lowlands. The

1937
01:48:45,319 --> 01:48:46,880
funck else that we have. You have a bunch of

1938
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:53,640
crotons phidal lacca. There was a mimo Phytum cardiophylum, which

1939
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:58,840
is baragin ac little blue flowered baragein ace seed them

1940
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:03,720
palm rise. There was some Pepperomia's packer at koelnsis Selena

1941
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:07,439
sirius spinulosis was everywhere, which that used to occur in

1942
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:10,359
South Texas too. I think it's been wiped out except

1943
01:49:10,399 --> 01:49:15,319
for cultivation. It gets a huge, you know, night blooming

1944
01:49:15,399 --> 01:49:19,119
moth plinated flower on it. I got some in my yard,

1945
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,760
really easy to grow from cutting. But but it likes

1946
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:26,119
it humid. It's it's likes it. It's a humid loving

1947
01:49:26,199 --> 01:49:28,239
plant that likes a lot of water. It likes growing

1948
01:49:28,279 --> 01:49:31,159
in the shade, likes growing, you know, up a tree.

1949
01:49:31,239 --> 01:49:33,319
I planted some of my buddy on Brace's yard and

1950
01:49:33,399 --> 01:49:37,199
it's like twenty feet up this oak tree. Now it's

1951
01:49:37,199 --> 01:49:40,479
a fucking dope plant. It's really cool, you know. Sure

1952
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,600
some with your friends. There was jug lance molus everywhere

1953
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:49,199
as well. A wooly walnut jug lance molus, which I've

1954
01:49:49,239 --> 01:49:51,199
seen in the Wava laone before. I don't think that

1955
01:49:51,319 --> 01:49:56,159
gets into Texas at all. But it smells the flowers

1956
01:49:56,199 --> 01:50:00,560
smell fucking incredible under the flowers, the leaves. Excuse me,

1957
01:50:01,319 --> 01:50:06,560
it's really pleasant smelling walnut lithough spermum nel sonya with

1958
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,359
white flowers. God damn it. I keep hitting these fucking butterflies.

1959
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:15,000
Such a drag. It's beautiful sulfur butterflies. And Uh Randia

1960
01:50:15,119 --> 01:50:21,119
leida virans, which the genus Randia uh is ruby ac.

1961
01:50:21,279 --> 01:50:24,720
It's the coffee family we get. I think it's Randia

1962
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:29,560
ab cordata in in South Texas, but like closer to

1963
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:32,479
the gulf, it likes the more humid and it's much

1964
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,319
more spiny. And this is more of like a music shrubs.

1965
01:50:35,319 --> 01:50:38,279
They've got the kind of spines. It's got thorns, you know,

1966
01:50:38,399 --> 01:50:42,479
the branches taper uh and become taper into a point.

1967
01:50:43,159 --> 01:50:47,760
But it wasn't this was this was you know, more

1968
01:50:48,039 --> 01:50:50,319
more humid adapted, more music grows in miud of their

1969
01:50:50,319 --> 01:50:53,119
climate growing in the understory. Saw that when we when

1970
01:50:53,159 --> 01:50:56,920
we saw the pack of coates mobbing up on people,

1971
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,119
not mobbing up they were looking for handouts here, know

1972
01:51:00,239 --> 01:51:03,279
these fucking coates they're looking They're always looking for handouts.

1973
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,239
But overall, just a ton of diversity. Man, it was.

1974
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:12,039
It was really really wonderful. It's in this little king

1975
01:51:12,119 --> 01:51:14,039
there was shited ton of people around. Whatever. It was

1976
01:51:14,079 --> 01:51:18,119
still a great time, right E Gavarious simulans I saw

1977
01:51:18,199 --> 01:51:22,279
there as well. Yeah it was Bohemia macrantha, which Bohemia

1978
01:51:22,279 --> 01:51:24,319
has always got showy flowers, but the ones that get

1979
01:51:24,359 --> 01:51:26,840
planted in South Texas are always the ones from Asia

1980
01:51:27,399 --> 01:51:33,279
when Mexico has so many cool ones. All right, I'm

1981
01:51:33,359 --> 01:51:36,359
back in Texas. Just that was an easy crossing, real brief.

1982
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,960
It wasn't too bad. It wasn't even painful. Only put

1983
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,520
me mildly painful. Part was having to return the vehicle

1984
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,119
permit and all that bullshit the migration forms. It just

1985
01:51:45,279 --> 01:51:49,479
fucking pointless bureaucracy. H I love that part when you're

1986
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,359
going over the back, over the bridge though the arms

1987
01:51:52,399 --> 01:51:55,600
Wilds Bridge, and you go buy all these like these,

1988
01:51:56,039 --> 01:51:59,479
You go by like six or seven dead billboards. It's

1989
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,880
just a frame. There's nothing up on him anymore. Looks

1990
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,199
very post apocalyptic. Over the flood plain of the Rio Grand.

1991
01:52:06,199 --> 01:52:09,960
It's some beautiful scenery, post apocalyptic. Like you know, we

1992
01:52:10,079 --> 01:52:13,239
always love seeing dead billboards, right, much better than seeing

1993
01:52:13,399 --> 01:52:16,279
ones that are actively being used, especially the led ones.

1994
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:20,199
But uh yeah, it's a fucking beautiful day outside, like

1995
01:52:20,359 --> 01:52:23,600
cloudy and cloudy with a little bit of blue sky,

1996
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,960
and uh it's perfect temperature. And here hopefully you got

1997
01:52:27,039 --> 01:52:31,000
something out today. Back to the dystopia, the commercial dystopia

1998
01:52:31,119 --> 01:52:35,800
of the Rio Grand Valley. But ooh, a big big

1999
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:42,239
cluster of the white phenotype of Solanum eliegnafolium. So all right,

2000
01:52:42,319 --> 01:52:44,039
till next time, have aggress your day, go fund yourself.

2001
01:52:44,079 --> 01:52:46,199
Oh yeah, I'll be going on tour in the Southwest

2002
01:52:47,119 --> 01:52:49,760
starting May twenty seventh. May twenty seventh of being Alpine,

2003
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,680
Texas doing a signing at Front Street Books, and then

2004
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:57,399
we're going to La and then we're going San Diego, Phoenix, Tucson.

2005
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:00,680
Trying to book Alos CRUs show Las Cruse in Las

2006
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:04,520
Cruse de New Mexico. And we couldn't line up in

2007
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:06,199
a Paslo show though I don't know why. Well we

2008
01:53:06,239 --> 01:53:08,319
didn't really try too hard, but we couldn't find a venue.

2009
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:11,359
If you want dates, go to the crimepace website and

2010
01:53:11,399 --> 01:53:12,840
it's under events all right, that's all. I gotta have

2011
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:14,039
a guess to day. Go fuck yourself by