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Speaker 1: Welcome to that Bigfoot podcast, where we believe in free speech,

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open discussion, and having a laugh. If that offends you,

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well we're not sorry. We talk a lot and we

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stand by most of it, unless you're a snowflake, in

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which case just assume we didn't mean it. This podcast

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is a mix of truth, nonsense, and humor, so buckle

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up and don't take it too seriously. Listener discretion is

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Normally you'd hear Wayne and Me digging into all things Bigfoot,

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but this week we're switching it up. I'm replaying the

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interview I recorded with Ron Moorehead at his home here

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in North Carolina. If you missed it the first time

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over on Sasquatch Odyssey, here's your chance to catch it.

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If you did listen the first time round, it's definitely

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worth another listen. This interview includes almost eight minutes of

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never before released Sierra sounds. Wayne and I will be

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back next week with a brand new episode, but for now,

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let's get into this exclusive interview with the one and

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only Ron Moorehead. Ron, first and foremost, thanks so much

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for inviting me here. It is great to be here

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in the great state of North Carolina talking about the

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Sierra Sounds.

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Speaker 2: Let's get the full picture for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Can you take us back to what these guys were

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experiencing up there and how you got involved in the camp.

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Speaker 4: Sure, thank you, Brian. Yeah, it started for me in

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nineteen seventy one. I was involved with some hunters. They

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came out with a story about these things coming around

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the camp. This is incident ab oudam malltains between Alecta

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and Yosemite. The two brothers are caught up. That's I'm

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into this camp, which is about eighty four hundred feet

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in elevation and eight miles into the wilderness, very remote area,

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but that's where they got The deer dining camp had

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been sin Siety fifty eight for the Johnson brothers, and

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they came out with this story there was something besides

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bear messing with them up there.

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Speaker 2: At night.

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Speaker 4: They went out when the commotion was over with, and

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I saw these huge tracks in the mud there. Donald

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wouldn't go back by himself. He invited me to go

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back with him, just because didn't like what happened at all.

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He didn't know where to put that in his paradigm.

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His religion said that giants don't exist anymore. They just

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in the Bible and somewhere like that.

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Speaker 2: We went back up.

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Speaker 4: The guys were okay, so we went out. I started

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going back as often as I could get somebody go

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with me. That that nineteen seventy one, several times. I

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don't remember how many times, but we all started taking

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tape recorders up there and started recording them. And the

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winner of nineteen seventy two, Warren Johnson, the leader of

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our group. He wrote Ivan Sanderson, cryptozoologist. Ivan Sanderson thought

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he was probably having his leg pool or something, so

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he contacted Peter Burns. I don't know if it's anything

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to this or not, but he thought it was a hoax.

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Peter read the twenty three page later from one he

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thought it was a hoax also, however, because that don't

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happen have repeated visits like that anyway. Peter knew a

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man named al Berry who worked for a record Searchlight

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newspaper in read in California. Total if he wanted to

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go down and check it out, he could, but too

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far away for him to go down there just to

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see if it was good or not. All actually thinking

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the same thing, and I didn't know all this until

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later years when I've seen the correspondence between them all.

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Al came down and interviewed us all and asked if

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he to go up, And so in nineteen seventy two

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when we could get back in, Warren Johnson took him

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back in and while start going back, and he started

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experiencing the same thing. He was trying to find out

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who could be pulling our leg way back in the

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middle of nowhere and leaving no signs except for their

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tracks and sounds they were recorded. Alberry was recording also,

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redundancy in the sounds. This went on seventy one actually

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all the way through seventy six. Repeated to visits, not

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every time, but many times in seventy two, seventy four

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right in there, and it wasn't until seventy four when

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I actually saw one very elusive they're very fast. I

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was recorded at the same time, so therefore I got

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to see what made the sound. So they say, if

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you don't see what made this sound, you don't know

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what made this sound. He's been accused of all kinds

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of things, Albery, He's the one that kind of pro coccused,

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the one that's trying to go out and try to

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solicit some professional to study the sounds. He went to

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a little Belieberman at Brown University first and Phil Flaud

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him or something, and he's a cogressive researcher, and said

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that he wouldn't do it. I finally found the professor

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Kurland a University of Wyoming, who took a long unbiasedly.

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I just wanted he wanted to get a professional hy

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and say he's either fake or it's real. Doctor Kurlin

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did a year long study. He gave his report at

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the University of a British Columbia nineteen seventy six. I

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think it was. He wrote it in a paper that

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was posted in a book A Man Like Bosters on

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Trial nineteen eighty or UCB Press. Anybody wanted to see

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that would have to get that book and read the paper.

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He concluded after a year long study, there was no

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fowel making. It was all legitimate stuff. It hadn't been

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slowed down, speeded up. There was no sixty cycle Holme minute.

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There was nothing else there was legitimate, real He said

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one clip of it represented an animal eight foot tall

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eight foot two. I think he said something like compared

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to the human vocal mechanism. So that kind of put

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it up there, but not enough for academia, because I

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still think it's an ape in the woods, right, and

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we all did too at the time. Didn't realize just

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how significant all this was until modern times, but we

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saw it all started looking around up there while he

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was there. All did too, still trying to figure out

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how anybody could do this, and that was before current

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said it was above the human range, and a lot

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of it was anyway. We started going out and talking

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about it after that in different conferences and places all

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over the United States actually, but still couldn't answer the

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odyssey that went with it. There were some strange things

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went on up there besides the orgoizations, strange lights, strange

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sounds that wouldn't language at all. It was I talk

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about this my first book of Voices in a Wilderness.

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But there's more to it. There's just more to it

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where you're still looking how an ape could do this.

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for spoken language like I'm doing now. That was revealed

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in actually Philip Lieberman's paper his only humans have the

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cognitive ability to speak like with morphine streams. It wasn't

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until two thousand and eight till a crypto linguist was

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trained by the Navy as a crypto linguist. It's been

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his career in the Navy. Desidher him transcribing the foreign

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sounds either codes or language, and determined if it was

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a language. He got a hold of the sounds by

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accident and came out and interviewed me and Albery both

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got the context behind the sounds Aska Stadium. We let him.

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the human dev language. It means a morphine stream of words.

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that animal supposedly, not a whale, not a dolphin, nothing

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has that abilities of us as humans. That's established by

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Philip Liberman actually, and he said that only humans have

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that bocal mechanism that's a highly bulloon with the tongue

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of the nervous system into the brain to say innumerable

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amount of words. So that put it over the edge

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for me right there. If that's the case. You got

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those three bullet points, you got doctor Curlin saying it's

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out the human range outside, you got Scott Nelson the

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crypto language who says it's spoken language. Then you got

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doctor Philip Lieberman says it's only humans have that, So

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it has to have a human component, And that's where

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until years later when I call this permission together for

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my studies. So it's really put me on a hunt

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for how they did what they did, because they did

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some really strange things and had some really strange things

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go on up there. So I got out of the

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Newtonian physics which were all raised in which sixteen eighty seven,

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we know things that are all fall easier of the fall,

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you can measure anything, it's all predictable. It's where we

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live in our third dimensional environment. So that's how it

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got started for me, and I got me on a

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worldwide wind check other countries out and see what's going

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Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about your siding when you

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got to see these things, because that's one of the

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things I did was get some questions from the audience,

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and that was one of the questions that the audience

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had was did you or any of the other guys

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that were up there see what you were interacting with?

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Speaker 2: Clearly you did that.

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Speaker 3: Can you talk a little bit about that set up

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the scene for us and talk about what you saw

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and what you experienced.

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Speaker 4: Sure, it was the night I recorded the signuri cry

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they called it. It was nineteen seventy four. Bill and I.

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these things. We're at the camp when we got there,

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so they obviously knew where it was going. And we

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put thought altogether from other signs where we saw them

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on the way in, just before it was dusk but

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not dark. We heard pounding or they're crocking on rocks

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the coating they give with whoops whooping sounds, and we

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knew he was in for it then, but were still

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outside the shelter. Normally they wouldn't interact with us until

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we were inside the shelter. We had which was a

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group of trees that grew in a circle. We wrapped

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our cables around it. I didn't, but it was done

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before I was going up there. Put classic over the

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top of it so that it gets you out of

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the weather and dead, folding it up against the cables. Anyway,

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they started messing with us, chattering stuff like that. I said,

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messing with this, that's what they do and mess with

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I think that they know more about their woods than

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we do. They do. It was an exciting night. And

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when I heard that thing, well, I was hearing two

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of them chatter, we think it's too adolescent than a

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female down below by the creek. And then behind us

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was a Semurai cry goes on and actually that money

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maker he coined that when you heard it, first heard

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these sounds and the ninety five I think it was.

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shoot down through the trees. Could not give you any

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definition on it, but it was fast. It was by

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a petal, and it was very smooth, very fast. That's

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first and only glimpse I ever got, the one that

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I know of other people. My daughter saw them three

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times up there. But there's something about got to watch

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out for you to bring a young lady pretty want anything,

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because the young ones out there and they crossbreed, I

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believe with indigenous people it's also the Native American low

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as they crossbreeen I think some of them are a

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little more human like than others, and some of them

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I may have different abilities than others. I get into

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how they did what they did because it didn't make

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sense the Newtonian world that we live in, which is

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three divisional environment. I get reports on these things, they

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them disappear, and it has to be a scientific answer.

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Al Berry, the guy we took in there in seventy two,

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and I became friends with him after that and we

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started talking about He said, don't talk about this strange

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stuff because you lose people with that stuff, because people

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can't understand anything else side of what they can see, feel,

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in touch, and anything material or physical and predictable. Everything

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we know of is that way. But that's not true.

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There's a whole other science out there called quantum science,

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and it's an acknowledged science, but it's out of our

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being able to prove it because it's out of our site.

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science and trying to understand the enigma's associated with these beings.

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I think I've got a lot of the answers put

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wants to agree with it. I just encourage people to

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look into that because it rides on the back of

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our Nictonian physics of everything, which is sixteen eighty seven.

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Quantum science wasn't even established to explain, got the Nobel

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Prize in nineteen eighteen for it. Businessests like Einstein have

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been studying today. You got theoretical physicals. So they've got

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to be called theoretical because you can't see it. It's

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like our cell phone. You don't see how that works,

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but it works. Other things work on the back of

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quantum science. Back Doctor Christopher Prayer at West Texas A

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and M says, everything from the atom through the cosmos

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works on the laws of quantum physics. It's just things

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are out there that we don't see, that we don't

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understand it. That's because of who we are at humans.

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We're born with this restriction. We only go into this environment,

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this third dimensional density we only see within onoint in

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thirty and seven and seventy terror herts that's our frequency

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everything everything. So one more time, everything is energy, frequency

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and vibration. If you don't find the vibration of something,

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that's where you get into everything. How things change because

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you can find a vibration of anything, you can change

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its matter. According to quantrophysics, how does matter change in energy?

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hydront collide and made energy out of a particle. They've

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learned how to do a lot of things, and they're

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learning more and more all the time. And I just

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want to ride to Agaway and try to learn more

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because there's some strange things going on up there. How

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do they disappear? That's been told? Everybody just shoves them off.

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Find nothing can disappear if I say it ain't there,

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not true. You got doctor Paul de Rock at the

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Nobel Prize in nineteen thirty three for substantiating antimatter. He

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called it because there's antimatter and there's matter. That's the

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direct change between energy and matter. Matter and energy are interchangeable,

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hands down. That's been established. Now mathematically was established, but

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it's also established by a CERN. You get into that

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and you think, if they can find the frequency of

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their matter, they could change in the energy. Now a

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lot of people don't want to go with that, but

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it can happen. If they can change the matter and energy,

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they'd go out of our visual perception. We only see

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within frequency of more than thirty sub in city terrors.

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That pretty much put that one out of most people's reach.

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would understand that's possible. But they got to reach the

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frequency all these vocalizations we had up there, which are

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outside the human range, a lot of we don't know

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how high, because our little cassette recorders wouldn't do that.

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They wouldn't tell you everything. So that's all we had

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in those days, real to real, But we never took

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really real up there. Just too much for the mules,

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our satelemities. So anyway, quite an adventure still is. I

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don't know if I'll ever get to the bottom of

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it until one of these things comes out of the

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woods and says, hi, it tells us what they're saying.

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But they were trying to say something to me that

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nineteen seventy four, before I was fortunate enough to get

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my cosenter recorder out of the saddle bag and turn

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned the setup and what you guys

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were using. That's one of the first questions that I had,

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because I worked with sound all the time, I'm a

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content creator. I do podcasts, so I'm constantly listening to

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sounds and what is out there in the zeitgeist. As

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far as the Sierra sounds, a couple of times I've

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heard them and it sounds like you guys are in

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the shelter and there's times when these creatures are vocalizing.

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because I've heard it other places that I know. You

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can google it now and there's like a four minute

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thing on YouTube and it sounds almost in some of

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those clips that you guys are in the same place

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with these creatures.

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Speaker 2: Can you paint the picture for.

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Speaker 3: Me and the audience about how this was done. Where

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you as recording from inside your shelter or did you

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have recorders outside where they were closer to the creatures.

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Speaker 2: How did that work as far as the setup.

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Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more of that big Foot podcast. We

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will be right back after these messages.

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Speaker 4: In seventy seventy, not seventy four, but those years, we

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had the microphone set in the cracks of the shelter

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and the recorders were extra our sleeping bags where we

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were playing. Now usually when it was outside by the

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stove which we carried in and put together on mules.

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We'd wait till we heard a big crack or a

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sound of some type, because it's very distinctive, very decisive

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when you hear it's not like some bear or some

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deer stepping on something that's heavy. That's the time we

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thought let's go in, because we leave food out for

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them generally and to take it generally. Once we was

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inside the shelter, we could turn the tape of crows

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on or off the nights that now Berry got those

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very clear ones, which were my first CD produced to

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Duncan Frakes and narrates it. It's integrated with the sounds

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that he was recording at night. We were all recording,

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but he got the very best once he had it

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remoted up about forty feet from the shelter behind our

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shelter as on a little pine tree actually had a

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turned upside doc to the stereo recorder, but we didn't

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know that at the time. When he taped the microphone

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to the tree, one of them was right behind one

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of those big trees up there. He thinks he had

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behind a big rockout cropping. I had some very unique

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recordings from several other times that I lost in a

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house fire. Unfortunately, I had my stereo microphone set up.

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I had a little portable D cell battery. It does

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operated on stereo, so it was a little bigger than

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a cassette, but I could haul it in. I lost

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all those in the fire. Fortunately one of them that

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I had i'd sent off after I got back to

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the seventy four recording then atal Berry, so I had

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a copy of it. I didn't lose that one. Bill

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mcdoald who was with me also recording, but he transfers

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his onto reel to reel when he gets hold and

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reuses them again. By the way, if you're out there

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listening to this, don't do that. If you record it once,

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leave it alone, get a studied, or see what's going

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on with because once you screw with them, you can't

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get a forensic study again. Now, I had quite a

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head recordings that I wish I still had, but I

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don't produce the second CD from the copy that Alberry

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had of mine. There sounds so different than seventy four

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when when was recording, when they're outside, they were actually

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yelling something at me, and I'd yell back trying to

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mimic them, still thinking I'm talking to an ape out there.

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They can't talk about whatever they're doing. I'm going to

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try to duplicate it, and that's what I was trying

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to do. But if I know them, then what I

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think I know now, I would do things differently because

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they are since you beans, at least what we were

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dealing with up there, and I got to say that

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pretty clearly what we were dealing up there. I don't

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think all of them are that way. Some of them can.

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I think some of them have crossbread so many eons

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of time with Indigenous people that some of them have

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lost that that should be maybe a speaking I don't know.

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I just know that the Patison track, I think that

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was a hybrid and definitely hybrid of a lot of

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years across reading. Because there are tracks in the Pattison

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track way which I have one, are so different than ours,

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but in different in the way that there's not the

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arts that's in the Patterson track, there's not the angle

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of the toes like the Patisan track. All ours are

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just even not across the top. That's over years of

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being up there seeing tracks. I just think that there's

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different ones, and some of them have different attributes than others,

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and that gets us into wayback history. Because I was

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raised religiously, I have a pretty good knowledge of Biblical

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scriptures and stuff. So I was originally trying to find

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out where giants came from, what happened to them. But

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then I had to get into Mesopotanian, the Samerian texts,

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and got all the way in the canaif form to

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find the core of most of our languages, most are

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written languages. That's the core that post of came out.

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It was a canaiform text. You find that what takes

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a chapter or two to explain things in the b

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it took hundreds of thousands of years. You read how

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it falls right into how they took that and just

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about every written language it has a core in that.

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So I got into that and I found out a

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whole lot more what's really going on. And they talked

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about hibrisation, the fallen ones in the Bible, or or

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I call them aliens that came down and they were

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at an archy. They cross spread with indigenous people and

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created what ended up in several different trial periods I

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think us. I said, so the desth make man in

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our image and then you get into canetform text or

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where they talk about there was like twelve ali. I

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mean they could afform textas God always talked about and singular,

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but there was actually twelve of them. But there was

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a innumerable amount of an anachi, some good, some bad,

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and they were doing what they shouldn't have done, which

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has come down here and interfere with us. But that's

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where the Samerians got there, picking up rear to it us.

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All the knowledge that we have today, most of it,

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I don't think there was in the computers that mine.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of high strangeness and some of the weird things

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that you've described that you guys were experiencing up there,

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the strange lights and some of the other things that

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were going on, something that people have talked about many

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times on the show. I've had less Strouds or ivoryman

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on the show has talked about having what he believes

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to be a telepathic connection to Sasquatch. Interestingly enough, I

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had an interview recently with a gentleman. He was talking

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about this new podcast that came out a couple of

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years ago called the Telepathy Tapes in a Nutshell, A

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couple of doctors and this lady who does this podcast

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has looked into nonverbal autistic children and young adults and

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they have proven that they have telepathic abilities. They communicate

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telepathically with each other A lot of times it's a

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connection with a parent, and I used to laugh at

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that theory.

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Speaker 2: Chris Noel is one of those people who have.

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Speaker 3: Talked about written books about possibly Sasquatch being some sort

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of savant or having some sort of autism and being

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able to have that telepathic connection with each other and

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with human beings. Did you, guys ever experience anything that

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you would even attribute to being close to a telepathic

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communication of it?

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Speaker 4: We were all very analytical. I think everybody has the ability.

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Everybody has the ability to do that. I think sometimes

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you might sense of simissent call you in the phone

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rings and nuts person college, you know. I think we

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just need to exercise our intuitiveness, which is another thing

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you do when you meditate. I think it's all goes

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back into frequency. We find the frequency and a lot

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of people I've heard people tell me about the telepathic

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thing's going on with them. Maybe that's what they were

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trying to tell me that night. It relaxed my brain

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a little bit. Maybe I could understand what they're saying.

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I don't know. That's a funny way to look at it. Yeah,

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Telepathy is something that I think we all have in

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our genes. We have that ability if we just learn

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how to clean up ourselves. That means going into the penia.

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Language is in here with a receptor, in my opinion,

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the receptor of above the source, whatever that is. It

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has direct connection to your heart, which has its own brain.

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By the way, most people don't understand that yet, but

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it does. That has to be in coherence with upstairs

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what's going on. Abubb your shoulders, because we're all being conditioned.

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The conditioning is all you got to go by what

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you learn from, whether it's your language or culture or

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whatever it is. We're all conditioned. So the strangest up

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there to the story. It falls into quantum science, I believe.

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But telepathically, they have that ability to do anything with

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their frequency. If you're on the right frequency, they work

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with you. I think they do a lot of that.

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People at night, no one's dark, because I think the

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frequency the earth drops to our frequency at night. Things

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happen when you get in that era, and it's easier

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for them to communicate with people who are in their

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relaxed state, not that you're asleep. A lot of things happen.

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We need to go to sleep. The people think it's

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just a dream or something, but maybe it's a little

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bit more than that.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the footprints and what was left behind that

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you guys found. How often did you find these footprints.

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It's one of those things that has been a little

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bit of a contested moment about some of the things

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that happened.

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Speaker 4: To know.

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Speaker 3: Grover Krantz had some things to say about those, and

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Meldrum has had his opinion on the footprints. Can you

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describe those you mentioned them being a little different than

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Patti's Prince for example, can you describe where you were

478
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,119
finding them, how you guys found them, What did they

479
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,960
look like physically?

480
00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:24,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were bigger or one thing it was small ones.

481
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:26,880
We had some nine inch onins while with an eighteen

482
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,359
inch one in the snow that told us it was

483
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,480
an adolestent that across We had heard an adolestic too.

484
00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:34,160
It one night in seventy four. I actually recorded it.

485
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:36,240
That's why I think it was an adoless than a

486
00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:38,799
mother down there. I think ad lessons are getting a

487
00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:42,000
little bit bold around humans, or maybe they're teaching them something.

488
00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:45,000
I don't know. But the tracks up there were five

489
00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:47,640
toad all of them. They had a very little arts

490
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,839
to them and walked one print in front of the other.

491
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,960
I wouldn't expect the Krantz, who has passed it right now,

492
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,279
or Meldon me they wanted to acknowledge them. I never

493
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,079
let them have a talk to Chuck, so I didn't

494
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,279
know Krantz. He lived in a squim of course, where

495
00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:04,119
I used to live. He wouldn't even talk to us

496
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,519
about it. Here goes mine. Because they're all conditioned in

497
00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:12,680
a parameters of classical science. It doesn't follow the rules.

498
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,440
They won't get off of that box. I hate to

499
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,440
say that to Jeff. I know Jeff pretty well. I've

500
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,880
been on with him a lot of times over in

501
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,000
Russia with the Mexicans Siberia, and he won't even talk

502
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,240
to you about it. I was, let's asking about then.

503
00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:27,079
That was twenty eleven. I'd been into it then, trying

504
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,839
to figure out something, because you've got to be with

505
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,680
science when you get it with this stuff. For people

506
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,200
aren't going to buy it not to be some professor

507
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:36,079
behind it PG. That's why these guys get the attention

508
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:39,400
because they got the PhD. I'm a citizen PhD and

509
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:41,480
I've looked into it and I think it answers a

510
00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:44,359
lot of questions. I had the tracks that we looked

511
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,079
for them. You only find what you look for if

512
00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:48,519
you do not care for you walk right buy them.

513
00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:50,279
We look for the toes man and then you find

514
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,319
us the trackway if there is one. They're not easy

515
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,440
because we had decomposed granted up there a lot of

516
00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:58,000
times in a lot of the areas around our shelter.

517
00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:01,519
As we're sometimes the sounds right outside there. You know

518
00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:04,000
there's got to be a track somewhere. So you'd find

519
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:07,000
him out there and we'd cast him. And I've cast him,

520
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,599
and I've got the cast. I got an original track cast.

521
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,839
But people like Jeff meltm they're going to compare it

522
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,319
to the Patterson track if it's got everything Patterson track has.

523
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,359
If it doesn't, it's considered a faker or not real

524
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:23,000
or something else. I know Jeff, he's a good gentleman,

525
00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:25,200
a good nice man, but he has to stay with

526
00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:29,440
his parameters. I understand that so I don't begrudge him

527
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,319
at all, but there's no upside to U's given him

528
00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:33,920
all of tracks, So I know what we deal to

529
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:36,480
with up there. I don't have to prove it by

530
00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:39,680
a track. If he wants a question about that, that's

531
00:25:39,759 --> 00:25:42,240
my answer. They're going to compare it to what they know.

532
00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:44,920
What they feel like they know is a big pot track,

533
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,799
and that's the Patterson track because there was a film

534
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:50,000
with it right. As many times as we tried to

535
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,640
get a picture, we never got a picture.

536
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's one thing that I have dealt with.

537
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,759
I have cast prints on my property in North Carolina.

538
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,960
We've done entire shows on one of my other podcasts

539
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,160
about gatekeeping in the Bigfoot community. There is gatekeeping to

540
00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:08,319
an extent when it comes to evidence. Because people were

541
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,519
asking me as soon as I put those tracks out

542
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:12,759
and I cast them and allowed people to see them,

543
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:16,440
They're like, has it been validated by Jeff Meldrum or

544
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:17,200
Cliff Barrickman.

545
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:18,519
Speaker 2: I know Jeff and Cliff both.

546
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I was going to send it to them, but

547
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,000
at that moment, it really made me think about all

548
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:29,559
the evidence. The Sierra sounds, the tracks from there, my tracks,

549
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,599
my prints. My ideo I've recorded was, are we putting

550
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,119
too much stock in one or two opinions because they

551
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,400
are just comparing it with what's already been known quote

552
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,680
unquote known, and then they're sticking to their paradigm. And

553
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:49,039
if they're not looking outside of that and willing to

554
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,880
be more open minded about differences in your tracks or

555
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,200
my tracks or Patty's tracks, are we doing a disservice

556
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,119
to some of the evidence. In my opinion, I think

557
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,960
we are. I think it's important. I have great respect

558
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:03,960
for Jeff, I have great respect for Cliff, but at

559
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,480
the same time, they've been wrong. Let's just be honest.

560
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:10,519
They've been wrong about certain trackways that ended up being hoaxes,

561
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,200
and they were one hundred percent on board with them

562
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,039
being real. So if they made a mistake, then could

563
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:17,720
they make a mistake now? So I think we have

564
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:20,160
to be very careful in my opinion as a community

565
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:21,720
on gatekeeping.

566
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred percent. That's very important,

567
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,400
and that's what my goal is at my age. I'm

568
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,839
in my eighties now. I just want to bring classical

569
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,279
science and quantum science together because they won't get out

570
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,640
of their backs. And I believe that's what they're in.

571
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,000
They're in a condition paradigm, and they won't get out

572
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:38,960
of that. I think if one of the US come

573
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,440
in and start talking to them, they'd still say that

574
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:43,240
they don't might make a difference with some people, but

575
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,160
I've been around these things. I've seen some of the

576
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,839
stuff they do, and there's no answer fort in classical science,

577
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,440
and that's where they're at. It's a shame that they

578
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:54,920
have to degrade things that don't meet up with their paradigm.

579
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,559
I know they do that, and that's okay with me.

580
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,319
It's truth will prevail favor saying whatever. Sureth will come

581
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,880
out sooner or later. They're not all the same. I believe.

582
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,519
I got way back into beings from the cosmos coming

583
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:12,279
here a month ago. That's what I write about in

584
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,920
my last book. It's just that there's been a lot

585
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,599
of hibrisation programs going on here. There's a lot of

586
00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:21,000
things went on by advanced beings. They have been here,

587
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,559
they're here now. Why they don't expose themselves is because

588
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,920
we're in a place where we're supposed to live out

589
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,440
our karma. We're supposed to know, we're supposed to learn

590
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,880
from our experiences. That's why we're here. That's teaching everything

591
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:37,599
because nothing else has what we have as humans. We're

592
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,359
made into images. I'm very expensive on a very high

593
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,599
frequench of being. If we learn from that, and that's

594
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,559
what were life's about, and we will die if you

595
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,559
don't learn. You got to learn it. I got to

596
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:50,799
come back and learn it. I'm sorry. I wasn't raised

597
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:54,000
this way to reven multile embodiments, but I do now

598
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,279
because you got to learn. And if you don't learn,

599
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,240
how you learn, you learn from you what it's like, Oh,

600
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,200
what's really were supposed to be like? You have to

601
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,119
learn with love and compassion with everybody else. You can't

602
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,599
go out there hurting people or live in a victim

603
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,519
paradigm yourself. You have to just learn to care. We're

604
00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:15,400
in a warring species and that's because of the Aninochy,

605
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,400
the ones that fell. They've created the wars. Getting into

606
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,079
Greek pathology, you're going to get into wars between the

607
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,960
gods that were all at different names with all that

608
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:26,160
special abilities. They were called the powerful ones from the sky.

609
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,359
You get into that and you realize just what all

610
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,079
went on. We're here to expand and to learn. Once

611
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,960
we've learned to love and compassion with our human compadres

612
00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:41,400
out there, we will step ahead and we are vibration

613
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,000
will get higher because we've got to get out of

614
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,839
this third dimension. That's our goal.

615
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,599
Speaker 3: Let's go back a little bit to what you guys

616
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,160
were experiencing up there when you were making these recordings.

617
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,920
Did you ever notice any difference in the vocalization patterns

618
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,359
based on any kind of environmental factors like the weather,

619
00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:00,480
the moon phases? Were you more successful in one season

620
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:02,359
versus the other with the activity?

621
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,319
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more of that big Foot podcast. We

622
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,680
will be right back after these messages.

623
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 4: We're going to get up there in the wintertime. Number one,

624
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:16,519
just too much snowload. Roads were closed off anyway to

625
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:18,599
get you close to it. If you want to get

626
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:20,759
close to it, you couldn't get up that high anyway.

627
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:22,480
We wouldn't go until spring time when any of the

628
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,559
snow was a meltdown far and know where we could

629
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,440
make the trail in without getting hurt too bad. I've

630
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,839
had a few broker cribs on the trail and the

631
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,680
horse run off the edge, but our biggest time was

632
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:36,319
during deer hunting season. But That might have been because

633
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,240
we was up there. It might have been because they

634
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,319
didn't want to go around other camps that they didn't trust.

635
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,920
There was no other camps real close to us. There

636
00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:44,839
was one that wasn't too far away from us, but

637
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,319
it was never inhabited. In fact, we rated it. We

638
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,039
always looked there to see if anybody use it. No

639
00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:51,880
one's used it's all the time I was going up

640
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,319
there from the seventies. We checked around to see I

641
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:56,720
because anybody else running around up there, and there wasn't.

642
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,359
That was when we first started. But there was a

643
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,480
hunting camp and that's what the guys went up there for.

644
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,160
They said to come around at night when during honey

645
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:07,519
season and actually move our deer. We'd hang them up

646
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:09,839
and skin them, blow me around behind the shelter. They're

647
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:12,599
on a cable. They'd come up and they actually moved

648
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,599
it or found some tracks at a one time moving

649
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,920
our deer. Larry Warren's son who was ten years my junior.

650
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,880
Him and I were there to stop one night and

651
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,599
we thought, let's go back there and clean up around

652
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,799
the deer so when it comes in at the end

653
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,279
we can get tracks. Sure now that happened there's three

654
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:31,839
tracks there underneath this deer, and the deer had been moved.

655
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,319
The three tracks you could have seen over our shelter

656
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,680
down to where we were sitting. So when was watching

657
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:38,839
us when that was going on. We went back there,

658
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:42,839
found the tracks and wow, that's an eye older think

659
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,960
these things were spying on you and they know what

660
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:47,720
you're doing, and we had no idea they could figure

661
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,599
out what we was doing. But like the camera tracks

662
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,519
we set up, can't believe they knew what a camera

663
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:53,559
was at the time. We thought it well a trick

664
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,799
them eating and trick these things. They see your vibration,

665
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,759
they see your intent, they see your modis, they see

666
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,200
what through that, and they have these abilities that we

667
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:04,119
haven't learned to evolve into yet.

668
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:09,759
Speaker 3: My opinion, did you see a difference in the way

669
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,200
they were communicating with you, for lack of a better term,

670
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:18,559
when you started communicating back or trying to elicit a response,

671
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,240
and if so, what kind of differences in the communication did.

672
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,359
Speaker 4: You see At the difference between seventy one seventy two

673
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,039
and the one that recorded from seventy four the crypto linguists,

674
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,039
because they are they the sound different, I asked you

675
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,160
it is not the same bunch of creatures or something different,

676
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,799
because they sounded a little different. He said, it sounds

677
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:38,839
the same milk vocal back did the sounds for both years.

678
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:42,200
He says he thinks they slowed their vocalations down to

679
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,160
possibly something I could understand. They talk real fast, very

680
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,319
fast chatter, very much of John Green mid his apes

681
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:54,640
among us from his interview with Albert Osman, which I've

682
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,559
been up there looking for Albert Osman where he was taking,

683
00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:01,279
looked their airplane and flirted around for a whole day,

684
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,599
slow flying, looking for the lane of the Camel River,

685
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,279
went over there to where he said he was, And

686
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,000
I'd write about that my second book at hourd Osmond

687
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,559
story anyway from seventy one seventy two, seventy four, because

688
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,960
seventy one seventy two is very intimidating, and it sounded

689
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,359
like we found out at least I think they were

690
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,200
arguing amongst themselves, not directed to that. We didn't know

691
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,279
at first if they were. That's what scared Donald off

692
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,720
at first, because be afraid they arguing about who's going

693
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:26,599
to put the salt pepper on us? But everybody's heavily

694
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,160
armed I got to tell you that we never went

695
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,279
up there with that some kind of self protection, but

696
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,160
a lot of that wasn't to protect us from these

697
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,160
things as much as we thought it might be at

698
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,039
the beginning. But seventy one seventy two, the aggressive sounds

699
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,720
were chest beating, very much a big gorilla would do,

700
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,119
or something that you think, and it was a little spooky.

701
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,400
I got to tell you then, because you still didn't know.

702
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:53,720
You don't know. To this day, we don't know. We

703
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:56,759
do know that in seventy four they were more subtle.

704
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,160
They were trying to say something to me, and I

705
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,640
don't to this day know what it was, because until

706
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,440
you get one to come in and start talking to you,

707
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,799
you don't know that goo google means a tree. You

708
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,639
don't know what that means. You know it's a language, though,

709
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,280
by the human destination, a language, and that's important. They

710
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,199
were talking slower. I don't know what they're saying, but

711
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,480
I try to and become home. That was exciting. That

712
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:24,239
was why we're outside the shelter, which unusual, very unusual.

713
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,519
Speaker 3: You mentioned that you thought, or you guys thought that

714
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:32,199
there might be juveniles and some older adults, maybe possibly

715
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,559
a female. Could you differentiate between what you guys thought

716
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,480
was the juvenile and if so, what was the difference

717
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:41,679
in the type of vocalizations from the adults versus the juvenile.

718
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can hear that on my sounds like come

719
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,880
in my christ Brook. I got a link in that

720
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,920
book where you can hit the sound when I get

721
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,760
to the context. Yeah, you could definitely hear the difference.

722
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,039
It's a smaller voice, you just know it smaller. Then

723
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:58,079
you hear the bigger voice. Come down, don't do that,

724
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,320
or somewhere then near the male or a big one.

725
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,119
You can tell the difference in their aptitude. At least

726
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:07,360
we could tell. I could tell the durch, so could

727
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,000
the other guys pretty much. Sometimes you hear the old man.

728
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,440
They call him that one. I don't know how big

729
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:14,840
he was. But we're pounding some tracks up on the ridge.

730
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:18,679
One time when I was meeting up from a hunt

731
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,519
and found these tracks coming off these boulders down into

732
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:24,960
this sandy area and now from to the brush on

733
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:27,360
four big tracks over twenty five and a half inches.

734
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,920
That's pretty big. I got pictures of that. There's thirteen

735
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,519
foot between them. There wasn't running well that three loop

736
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:36,519
I didn't show that one to talk about it for

737
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:39,360
a long time, but nowadays, at my age, I don't care.

738
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,480
I just want to share things that I think I

739
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:43,199
know and hope it helps somebody else.

740
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: Here's a question from the audience that people have asked

741
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,400
a couple of times, and I wanted to get it

742
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,880
directly from you. Have you ever worked with anybody outside

743
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,440
of Scott Nelson as far as a linguist or somebody

744
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,519
else who could look at these and make some determinations.

745
00:35:58,639 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: And here's the second part of that question.

746
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:03,039
Speaker 3: And this is something that I think Meldrum actually mentioned

747
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:06,039
recently on an interview I saw him do. Was he

748
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:07,880
had asked, I don't know if he had talked to

749
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,519
you about it, or if you had talked to Scott

750
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:14,119
about putting Scott's work together in a paper for peer

751
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:17,119
review and letting other people take a look at these

752
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:20,679
That's a two part question. Is anybody another linguist or

753
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,960
somebody along the line of Scott Nelson looked at these things?

754
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:27,480
And is Scott even considering possibly putting his stuff into

755
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:29,320
a paper for peer review? And if not, do you

756
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,239
have any idea why?

757
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:34,679
Speaker 4: I certainly do. Yeah, Melders talked to Scott. I've talked

758
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:37,480
to Scott. Scott's writing this up. In fact, he's putting

759
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,679
it in now to hopefully do something like that soon.

760
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,639
Scott's laid back though he's retiring now. He's not a

761
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:46,360
bigfoot person. People want to send me a yell or

762
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,079
something like that to send the Scott to say if

763
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:50,639
it's a bigfoot. Scott doesn't do that. He looks for language.

764
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,960
It's a language person. He's a crypto linguist, though that

765
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:57,239
is an art form. It's not like a regular language.

766
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,920
So I've had people contact me. These things are open

767
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,719
for anybody wants to investigate them. They always have been,

768
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,239
but I want to make sure they're qualified if they

769
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,960
try to put it into some of their category and

770
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,039
their paradigm, but that it's not going to work. And

771
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,719
at least in my opinion, they got to get all

772
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,920
the way back into the manipulation of the DNA of

773
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:19,599
hominids and how much that happens. I think the whole

774
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:23,480
earth is just a big playground for aliens, it says.

775
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:25,880
And I got called on the carpet here a few

776
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,639
days ago about somebody saying they were phony. The sounds

777
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:32,400
were funny because they heard a reverb or something in

778
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,920
there they thought they did, but I don't know who

779
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,679
did that or whatever. But they can't disprove what PhD's

780
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,440
have proven so far. They have it. And yes, I've

781
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,960
had different languages. It's about different people say their language.

782
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:50,400
But again it's comparing apples with oranges. A regular linguists

783
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,000
isn't qualified to do we Scott Nelson, there's only one

784
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:54,920
or two people in the world discussed that he would

785
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,280
trust to. I really look into this like he has,

786
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,639
and they're retired like he is. But the's probably others

787
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:03,400
out there somewhere, but no one ever approached me with

788
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:07,519
that offer that says they're crypto linguist. Crypto linguist is

789
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:10,760
an art form not treated the same as regular linguists.

790
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,920
So to put it under an peer reviews good. Don't

791
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,599
trust them. Hero A letter told a very nice letter

792
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:19,079
if you want to subject his work to somebody that

793
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:19,960
don't know what they're doing.

794
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: Some researchers have suggested that the Sierra Sounds might contain infrasound,

795
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,840
or at least the elements of infrasound. When you guys

796
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,519
were up there, did you ever have any physical effects

797
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:36,880
like vibrations, dizziness, or an overwhelming fear that might be

798
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,639
associated with infrasound.

799
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I've had it happened to me twice up there.

800
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:46,119
Don't know what it was, might have been infrasound, but

801
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,519
I have no doubt that they can go in infrasound

802
00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:51,159
and ultrasound both. I say, I have no doubts. But

803
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:55,280
our cassette recorders didn't record those things scientists that recorded

804
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,920
infra sound and ultrasound. But the big animals use those elephants, giraffes, tiger,

805
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,400
They communicate a lot in the person. And Warren Johnson

806
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,079
and I were in shelter one of these things with

807
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,760
mouth at all up there, and we were pretty good

808
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,480
about then, and we didn't think they're going to eat

809
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:13,079
us anymore. We left the sheltered door open, which was

810
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,960
just a log between two big trees an angle, and

811
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:18,119
we thought we'll go out there right quick and walk

812
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:20,199
up there. We'll see this thing right away because we

813
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,360
want to get a good view or one. But we

814
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,880
did just that. We jumped out of the door real

815
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,119
quick fast. We get out and I started walking up

816
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,079
to where the stiles were coming from, which wasn't that

817
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:32,119
far away, and we got within about fifteen feet of

818
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,119
the tree. We thought it was behind and him and

819
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:36,079
I both just got froze, and we weren't talking to

820
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:38,199
each other, and we were about ten fifteen feet apart.

821
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,840
We were just I don't know how to express it

822
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,800
other than I I write about that. And it's like

823
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,639
a force field. You can't go forward anymore. And Warren

824
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:47,800
looked at me and I don't know about you, but

825
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,400
I can't move, and I said I can't either, And

826
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,880
we started going backwards. And we go backwards. We couldn't

827
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,599
go forward. I brought that up to liverroy Fish. He

828
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,480
was a biologist, he was a scientist. He sees now,

829
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,079
good man, but he's science can't take on your fears.

830
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:07,440
I said, we were not afraid. Believe me, we're not afraid.

831
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:10,639
We realize these things are here to hurt us, or

832
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,719
they would have already done it if I weren't here

833
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,599
to carry away to sleeping bag. They had to carry

834
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:16,199
this a way if they wanted to eat, if they

835
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:17,480
could have eat this, they'd want to throw a rock

836
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:19,639
at us. I could have done that when we got

837
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,480
back in. We no sooner got back in the sheltering

838
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,280
and saying started mouthofkaon like it was ah, which they

839
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,760
can they'd play with you like that. And I had

840
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,159
it happened to be agin when I was loaning out

841
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:32,000
in the woods. I was walking along, not thinking about

842
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,599
it at all, and all of a sudden, the hairstad

843
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:35,519
will put it back. I just was froze right through

844
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,000
and I started looking around, Where's what's going on here?

845
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,960
I couldn't see a source of anything. And of course

846
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,519
I didn't know about doctor Durak's PLANTI matter at the

847
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:48,000
time either, because I think they could send out a

848
00:40:48,039 --> 00:40:50,440
frequency to you that can stun you like that. I've

849
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,800
heard a lot of people say the same thing.

850
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: This comes from a listener, Bud.

851
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: He wanted you to talk about It was funny, he said,

852
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,719
ask him about big Foot an energy, the quantum theory.

853
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: I read his book, but I still don't understand it.

854
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:07,039
Speaker 3: Could you go a little bit more into that and

855
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,480
also talk a little bit about You've mentioned a couple

856
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:13,679
of times about them possibly having two sets of vocal cords,

857
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:15,519
so you can you talk a little bit about the

858
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:20,719
Bigfoot energy quantum theory, and then possibly something along the

859
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,360
lines of the two vocal cords.

860
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: Sure, we've been hitting on that during this whole program

861
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,440
a little bit. But everything is energy, frequency vibration. Do

862
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,280
you take outste of them? That's my new level of

863
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,840
the atom we are. That's not the most level, but

864
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,119
you get all the way down to who we are.

865
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,920
We're energy vibrating at a frequency, and if you can

866
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:41,679
find the frequency, you can change matter. And that's established.

867
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,440
I talked about that little earlier. I could listen to it,

868
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:48,760
but that's how that's who we are, and that's who

869
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,519
we're made to be. But we have not evolved in

870
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,800
understanding that yet. These are mathematical facts that can't be disproven,

871
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,199
or they would have disproven mathematically. That's what Paul Durrock

872
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,960
got the Noble price for. We have two sets. Butsly,

873
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,800
I've heard on a podcast on years ago a medium,

874
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,119
I said, I need to talk to this guy for

875
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:08,559
this over with. I talked to him and I said,

876
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,360
what's going on? How do they do what they do

877
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,159
with their vocal wo He says, I don't know that. No,

878
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,760
so you until you get one, you don't know. But

879
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,360
that's why it gives them such a frequency diversity. Things

880
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,280
that we can't do they can do with their vocal equism.

881
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,679
If that leads into antimatter, if that leads into the frequency,

882
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,639
that can change their matter who they are. That's what

883
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,079
we are do energy only they go out of our perception.

884
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,320
And that's what I m. It's my theory.

885
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: Sticking to it all right.

886
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: This is a little off topic, but this comes up

887
00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:44,559
quite a bit about the Bigfoot nine to one one

888
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,559
call that everybody uses. I've used it in the intro

889
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,519
from my show for years. Tons of other podcasts use

890
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:55,119
that famous Bigfoot ninemal one call. This actually comes from

891
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,760
Brent and he asked the question, can you talk a

892
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,159
little bit about that No one call? Because apparently people

893
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,079
have done some four your requests and they've tried to

894
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,519
find it, and there doesn't seem to be a record.

895
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 2: Of the call.

896
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 3: Can you talk a little bit about that. I know

897
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,800
you got to interview that gentleman. He's even asked if

898
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,559
there was a specific police report number that was taken

899
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:18,559
for the call that maybe somebody could go back and reference.

900
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:22,320
But in general, the Foyer request turned up nothing on

901
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,880
the nine one one call. But you actually got to

902
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,440
talk to this gentleman. Can you talk a little bit

903
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,000
about that for people that may not be formiliar.

904
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 4: You are tired navy and he had a Vietnam bed.

905
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,760
He organized garage. At about one o'clock in the morning,

906
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,679
his sense of light went off out of his garage.

907
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:37,800
He had this glass or plastic wides out as he

908
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,159
could see through his garage at certain height. He saw

909
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:45,760
this thing. Now. Two weeks prior to that, something scared

910
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,239
him out there. It was his big German shepherd dog

911
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,719
who never went out to stay there. He had two

912
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,239
younger dogs, their grasser dogs go out and bark that night.

913
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,840
Two or two weeks later when he saw it at

914
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,480
his German shepherd went out. It's who other dogs came

915
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:06,119
in and cowered down right there, and German shepherd went

916
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:08,039
out there and started barking at something. All of a

917
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:11,480
sudden he heard a big funk and a squeal. It

918
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:15,760
came flying over the fence and landed thirty five feet

919
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:19,159
away from the fence. He showed us where it went

920
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:22,079
over the fence. It had to be thrown nine foot high,

921
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,679
and we went over there. Peter Burn and I did

922
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,519
looking for tracks, looking for anything that could have done

923
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,360
at a horse or something like. I could have kick team,

924
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,679
but he had a sighting. You can't deny that when

925
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,639
you hear that. Peter contacted the service department because he

926
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,119
said after side of the sighting that he saw it

927
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,679
run away across the older road there and a car

928
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,760
had gone by and had a car actually went off

929
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,239
a little bit to miss it. Peter had even put

930
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,159
it at the paper trying to find invice, saying nothing

931
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,440
unusual that night on that road, and didn't get any

932
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,480
response from it. Peter would have had the number of

933
00:44:57,559 --> 00:44:59,920
that report from the service department there. This is an

934
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:04,800
our Kitsap County pen. It's up there. I'm sure there's

935
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,400
a number somewhere. I just don't have it.

936
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,599
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more of that big Foot podcast. We

937
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,960
will be right back after these messages.

938
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,079
Speaker 6: I edited it.

939
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:18,679
Speaker 4: I took out the typing and all that stuff that

940
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,000
was in between the reports, because there's two reports, one

941
00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,800
two weeks and later than the other one two weeks

942
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,400
later on is when he had the sighting. That's when

943
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,840
he says, oh, get somebody here. He's afraid to say

944
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,000
bigfoot because he knows they were laughed at offers. I'm

945
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:34,400
probably when it came out two weeks prior to that

946
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:36,800
is when the New Sun was going on. He called

947
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,039
him in, so he had a man take the report then,

948
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:42,000
and then a lady took the report two weeks later.

949
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,599
That's the story behind it. I didn't leave his guys.

950
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,079
I have had people trying to get a hold of

951
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:49,400
me to find his name and all that, but you

952
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,599
don't respond to his phone anymore. I don't know he's alive.

953
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

954
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,159
Speaker 4: I don't know if he lives there anymore. Because something

955
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,360
like that goes on you generally, you and your life.

956
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,599
When we were away, I.

957
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: Guess it was last year maybe sometime. I heard you

958
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:05,920
and Todd Nice were on over on Piel Island research

959
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,880
with Jeff doing a podcast, and Todd just threw it

960
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,599
out there and said, hey, Ron, you remember that time

961
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,559
me and you and Peter Burn were down in the

962
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:17,119
nineties doing this and you brought the shoe box full

963
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:21,000
of all the Sierra sounds that haven't been released, and

964
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:24,679
I was like, whoa wait what. Jeff actually reached out

965
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,360
to me and was like, dude, did you hear them talking?

966
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,719
There's more Sierra sounds that we've never heard. So I

967
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,280
started talking about it on my podcast and we've talked

968
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,679
about it and done some interviews with other people and

969
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,679
talked about it, and we've done other shows about it,

970
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,320
Wayne and I on that Bigfoot podcast. So I reached

971
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,559
out to you and got this conversation going about that.

972
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,000
You've obviously talked about it with me privately, So can

973
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:48,840
we talk a little bit about what you have as

974
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,199
far as the unreleased sounds, how many they are, and

975
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,599
what exactly is in there, and why it is that

976
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,639
you've chosen not to release those after all these years.

977
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 4: We have ready the very best recordings. We have other

978
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,360
that are good, but we have redundancy. But what's very

979
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,920
important to me right now is there's a documentary being

980
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,519
made on the Aier camp by production company, and I

981
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:14,360
don't want to interfere what they're doing because they're going

982
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,679
to emphasize these Because they also got their recordings from

983
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,960
Warren Johnson's archive, which he's passed away years ago. They're

984
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,079
going to release those in the documentary, which would be

985
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:26,440
about an hour and a half long. They're doing a

986
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:28,079
really good job. They've been working on this for a

987
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:30,119
couple of years. Whatever, I don't want to interfere with

988
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,679
their work. They're very good people. They're going to do

989
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,079
a good job. I've known them now for a while,

990
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,119
so I hope that people aren't offended. It's all chatter

991
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,760
that you don't understand. Well, I've listened to them all.

992
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:44,000
We have hours of it. Really. I have Bill McDowell's

993
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:48,159
recordings and the production company has Warren Johnson's recordings, so

994
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:50,440
they're going to try to get all this together, all

995
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,800
the sinus. I have been asked several times about this.

996
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:54,840
So I give you one or two, I think, and

997
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:57,079
you want to play those because we run them through

998
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,559
the production people that are doing this, and they said

999
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:03,199
it's okay because really none of them sounds that's different.

1000
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,960
It's just chatter. But they talk so much faster than us.

1001
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:08,960
There's a lot of space and time between a lot

1002
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,719
of them. Two which I mentioned to you, which has

1003
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,119
our voices back in the shelter. It's just very important

1004
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:15,719
that we don't interfere with them. To me, it's important,

1005
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,360
and to them. They spend a lot of money on this,

1006
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:19,960
and they're still spending money on it. They're in the

1007
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:22,960
editing phase I think now, But we're gonn play those.

1008
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,639
We want too.

1009
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:45,079
Speaker 7: Much.

1010
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 8: Not all happen. Why else a not altought that I

1011
00:49:52,000 --> 00:50:02,920
thought them before.

1012
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 9: Looking a little look at all. The week too was more.

1013
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:46,559
Speaker 6: Kay yep, so when you know no fool.

1014
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 10: Later that's the holder.

1015
00:50:52,079 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 4: H h yeah.

1016
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 10: Listen, why was the boy? I think? Whoa whoa.

1017
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 11: You used to lame.

1018
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:48,559
Speaker 4: Man? Who h.

1019
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:05,559
Speaker 2: Y d.

1020
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 8: It's a.

1021
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:40,159
Speaker 9: Hy yah.

1022
00:52:49,039 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 8: Mm hol on, let's go for m h oh.

1023
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:12,159
Speaker 11: Okay, oh.

1024
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you go.

1025
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:40,639
Speaker 10: Yah who.

1026
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 11: Woo oh.

1027
00:53:56,119 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 8: H oh h.

1028
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 9: It was just good.

1029
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 8: What ve you little beautiful.

1030
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 11: That when that happen say.

1031
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, I say a team h fool.

1032
00:54:54,360 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 12: Woo stop football my alcohol?

1033
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, uh no, I'm come.

1034
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: I had a conversation with gil Via email after you

1035
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:24,320
and I had talked and you express some concerns about that,

1036
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,920
and she said, what we're doing is not going to

1037
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,519
interfere with that at all. So we're pressing forward with

1038
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:32,519
that for sure. I guess the last question here related

1039
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:34,800
to the sounds is just looking back on your years

1040
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,079
of research, everything you did at the Sierra Camp, everything

1041
00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:41,920
you've done since. Is there anything that you know now

1042
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:44,800
that would cause you to do things differently back then,

1043
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,920
or is there anything about the whole situation that still

1044
00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:48,880
keeps you up at night?

1045
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 4: Nothing keeps me up at night. Nothing or I'm not

1046
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:54,800
a surprise at anything that happens, because you get into

1047
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,159
quantum theory and you realize that anything can happen. No,

1048
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:01,280
I think I would done things differently. I would have

1049
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:04,239
not underestimated. None of us would we underestimate. I'm thinking

1050
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,880
there's a nape in the woods, run around. They got

1051
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,320
a document in some way, So you go out and

1052
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,280
cast tracks you out and try to record you out,

1053
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,679
and try to trick or me do all that stuff.

1054
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:14,079
They're a step ahead of you, at least what we

1055
00:57:14,199 --> 00:57:15,559
dealt with those step ahead of is. And I've been

1056
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:19,360
to other places too. Really, it's just a phenomenal history

1057
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,119
back here. I'm writing my biography now, and it's just

1058
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,639
the places I've been. The things I've seen are pretty

1059
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,039
interested in me anybody else or not. But I think

1060
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:31,519
my message to people, if I have a message, is

1061
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:33,239
to know who you are as a human being and

1062
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,360
how special we are as even mean what we're here for.

1063
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,719
It's written in my third book. I've written three books

1064
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,920
and produced two CDs out the Stiles and narrated one

1065
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,199
by me and one by Jonathan Frick's story Trek Next

1066
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,760
Generation they're both about forty minutes long with integrated sounds

1067
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,440
in them. They're both downloadable on my website. Also, my

1068
00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:56,320
books are downloadable on my website or you can get

1069
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,880
the hard copy through Amazon, which is ordered through my website. Again,

1070
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,159
it's just to know that we have to respond with

1071
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,440
love and compassion. That's what's going to elevate us as

1072
00:58:05,519 --> 00:58:06,079
human beings.

1073
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,119
Speaker 2: Very wise words.

1074
00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:09,599
Speaker 3: I will link to all that in the show notes

1075
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:11,320
for you guys to go over and get the books,

1076
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:12,400
check out the sounds.

1077
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 4: Ron.

1078
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 3: I can't thank you enough for inviting me into your home.

1079
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,000
Have had a blast talking to you.

1080
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 4: Thank you. It was good. Good questions.

1081
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 5: They say, you don't gotta.

1082
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:25,039
Speaker 2: Go home, but you can't stay.

1083
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,039
Speaker 7: I don't want to be.

1084
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 10: World.

1085
00:58:33,639 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 7: Happened this job, jod everything, call me Rick, cricket back

1086
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:04,039
Joy for.

1087
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 13: Me, Joy, stay right, you call it right away? Still

1088
00:59:19,559 --> 01:00:13,159
Still stay said still as bass and State plays and

1089
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,480
US state things

1090
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,039
Speaker 1: US instance