1 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this Week in the Atlantic Coast Conference, 2 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,519 the podcast for All Sportsdiscussion dot com. This is Jeff 3 00:00:23,679 --> 00:00:26,640 and you can follow me on x at Talking a 4 00:00:26,839 --> 00:00:30,879 c C Sports. That's at t A L K I 5 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:34,320 N A c C S P O r T S. 6 00:00:34,799 --> 00:00:39,280 The podcast moderator. The podcast moderator is Matthew and you 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,600 can follow him at All Sports d. 8 00:00:42,719 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: A c C. 9 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:47,359 Speaker 1: That's at A L L S P O R T 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,079 S D A c C. Matthew, it looks like everyone 11 00:00:52,119 --> 00:00:53,920 here is good to speak. I'm going to turn it 12 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:54,920 over to you now. 13 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:57,039 Speaker 2: So welcome back to this Week in the A c C. 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: This is the podcast of All Sports Discussion dot com. 15 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:04,319 I'm the longest running independent ACC podcast in the United States, 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:11,359 and I'm sitting here in Ocean City, Maryland. Randomly reached 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,920 out to our friend Dan Carrow when I was on 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 the beach, and it was kind of awesome to be 19 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:19,280 able to ask somebody to join our podcast in the 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,239 evening while I was sitting on the beach. So that 21 00:01:21,359 --> 00:01:23,280 was kind of kind of a cool point for us 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,760 here right. Our return guest tonight, Dan Carrow, the owner 23 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:28,799 and operator of Treadmill. 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,159 Speaker 2: Horse dot com. 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,359 Speaker 3: You can also follow Dan on Twitter at at treadmill Horse. 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,599 That's at t R E A d M I L 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,400 L h O R s E. Welcome back Dan the 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,200 Flora's years. Tell us about yourself. We get all kinds 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,719 of new listeners here all the time. We're getting seemed 30 00:01:46,719 --> 00:01:48,680 to be getting a few more people from Cal and 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,799 from Louisville lately. But Louisville keep the Louisville listeners, keep drawing, 32 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:55,079 keep keep adding. It downloads here to our podcast. But 33 00:01:55,079 --> 00:01:58,359 the the calgarithm certainly loves our podcast. 34 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:03,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, and see a broduct CAL Like, I really think 35 00:02:03,239 --> 00:02:05,319 they've been a great addition to the conference. Like there 36 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:07,799 are a lot of fun on Twitter. I've had good 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,319 back and forth with them. I even when I went 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,199 out for the Stanford game. I even had some good 39 00:02:13,199 --> 00:02:15,599 interactions with some Cal fans out on the West Coast. 40 00:02:16,199 --> 00:02:18,680 So they're definitely a fun fan base to add to 41 00:02:18,719 --> 00:02:22,560 the ACC. So just a little bit about myself. I 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,400 run treadmill Horse on Twitter. I've also got treadmillhorse dot com, 43 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:31,159 which is my blog where I talk about mostly Virginia 44 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,639 Tech football. I do weekly previews of each game, I 45 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:41,960 do mid season reviews, I do preseason predictions. It's just 46 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,280 a good way to get out all my thoughts on 47 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:47,199 the Hokies. And on top of that, on the Twitter 48 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,680 account and on Instagram, I also do weekly ACC Power rankings, 49 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:54,759 So if any of your ACC listeners want to check 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,199 those out, they can see from my Virginia Tech perspective 51 00:02:59,199 --> 00:03:01,680 where I see everyone's stacking up each week in the ACC. 52 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,319 So yeah, give me a follow on Twitter and Instagram 53 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,439 and check out my stuff. 54 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely, definitely. You've also been You've been a guest 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,400 on this show multiple occasions. You've also been a guest 56 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:18,919 host on this show. You've been part of panels. You've 57 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,039 just been a huge supporter of the All Sports Discussion 58 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:25,639 ACC podcast and the blog in general, Dan, and so 59 00:03:25,719 --> 00:03:28,439 we really appreciate that. So let's get right into it, man. 60 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,919 Let's look at week eleven and the ACC. Which ACC 61 00:03:32,039 --> 00:03:35,560 football team was the most disappointing team in Week eleven 62 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,639 and which ACC team was the most impressive team. So, 63 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:42,879 and I'll be fair here, I'm probably looking for I mean, 64 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:43,520 it would be. 65 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:46,479 Speaker 2: Easy as easy for us. What do they say, the 66 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,680 low hanging fruit? 67 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: Sure, it would be easy to say Florida State socks 68 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,560 every week and they do right, but because they just 69 00:03:54,599 --> 00:03:57,960 got ransacked by Notre Dame. But certainly go out of 70 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,919 the box here with us. See you can certainly mention 71 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:01,759 Florida State, but also go out of the box. 72 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:06,159 Speaker 4: Well. I think Florida State locked up most disappointing team 73 00:04:06,199 --> 00:04:08,599 of the year a long time ago, so I think 74 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:10,879 we can move on for Florida State. So for me, 75 00:04:11,039 --> 00:04:14,879 the most disappointing team of the week was Pitt. That 76 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:18,680 Pitt had a really good opportunity to make a jump 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,879 this week with Miami losing in their race to get 78 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:27,759 to Charlotte. Unfortunately, they took a loss at home to Uba. 79 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,680 I just think I was disappointing just because they had 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,879 an opportunity to move up in the standings. They had 81 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:35,600 an opportunity to be in position to be in position 82 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,639 to go to Charlotte, and I think it's that's one 83 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:41,560 that they should have had. So from my perspective, like 84 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,079 they're the most disappointing. Obviously, as a Virginia Tech fan, 85 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,920 I was disappointed and Virginia Tech's lost to Clemson. I 86 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,360 thought they had a good opportunity there to get their 87 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:55,439 season back on track and maybe and strong, but they 88 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,920 couldn't take advantage of that either. So I'd say, if 89 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,439 we're talking about disappointing teams, I would have both to those. 90 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,480 But for me, Pitt Pitt's the most disappointing because that 91 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,560 had a good opportunity to get to Charlotte, and I 92 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,480 think that that kind of went by the wayside. 93 00:05:07,879 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: Who's your most impressive ACC football team of the week. 94 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,759 Speaker 4: It's gotta be Georgia Tech. I mean, so many teams 95 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:18,600 have gotten close against Miami this year and none of 96 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,720 them have been able to close the deal. Georgia Tech 97 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,480 played well the whole game, long, took took a lead 98 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:27,639 into the fourth quarter, and then they were able to 99 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:30,439 close the deal in the fourth quarter, which no other 100 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:32,480 team this year has been able to do. So that's 101 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,480 that's impressive. I was happy to see the Georgia Tech 102 00:05:35,519 --> 00:05:37,920 fans get a big win, be able to storm the field, 103 00:05:38,519 --> 00:05:42,360 be able to make make away with those goalposts. That's 104 00:05:42,399 --> 00:05:44,879 always fun to see. So like good for Georgia Tech. 105 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,600 I think that was a that was a huge win. 106 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,279 Really impressive for Brent Key and there guys to take 107 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,800 care of business like that, and like I could feel, 108 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,399 I felt like it had been coming for a few 109 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:58,680 weeks now with Miami, but someone finally finally took care 110 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,639 of business there, and it's it felt like that what 111 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:03,680 I'd been coming for a while. But Jordia Tech was 112 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,240 a team to knock them all. 113 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: Great statements. You're absolutely right. 114 00:06:07,079 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 3: I mean, it felt it kind of felt like Miami 115 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,800 was living on the edge for a while, perhaps getting 116 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,680 a fortunate call here and there from referees. I mean, 117 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,720 then I'll be fair here, right, nobody. You know, when 118 00:06:18,759 --> 00:06:21,120 you get when you get to if you get to 119 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,759 the college football playoff or you get to the championship 120 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,920 or whatever, you are a beneficiary of luck in some 121 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,680 sorts of in some instances here and there, and if 122 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,319 in Miami was rolling seven's on a lot of lucky 123 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,480 getting a lot of lucky, lucky. 124 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: Things happening their way. 125 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: But you're absolutely right, Georgia Tech did do what they 126 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:44,160 had to do. I know, I know Jeff wants to 127 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,240 say a few words about this as a fan and 128 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,959 a love but I'm gonna turn it over him for 129 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,519 in a second. But I mentioned to Jeff at least 130 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,959 a couple times during the game that this is the 131 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:56,759 exact tempo that Georgia Tech wants. They don't want to 132 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,959 be raising up and down the field with Miami. They 133 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:02,519 want to be in a ball control sort of situation 134 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:04,399 where they have a chance to own the time and 135 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:06,879 time and time of position and that sort of thing. 136 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,160 And they were doing what they had to do with 137 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:16,480 not with their starting quarterback, with their starting quarterback out, Jeff, 138 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,399 I know you want to talk, man, tell you it's 139 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:21,240 your turn here, buddy. I know you want to say 140 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,959 a few words of our Georgia Tech before we go 141 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,519 to the next. 142 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, I got I got to put 143 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:32,839 a couple comments from that game. Yeah, what you said, Matthew. 144 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,160 You know, early on in that game was spot on 145 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,680 about Georgia Tech trying to you know, shorten the game, 146 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:48,639 reduce the possessions. I thought that the only way Georgia 147 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,399 Tech could really pull off that upset was to have 148 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,720 a healthy Haines King, who I thought healthy healthy Haines 149 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,800 King with that offense, their ability to run the ball 150 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,560 could maybe win in a shootout. And that wasn't a 151 00:08:02,639 --> 00:08:05,839 knock at all on the improvement that the Georgia Tech 152 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,519 defense has shown this year. I just didn't think that 153 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,040 there was any I don't know if there's any defense 154 00:08:12,079 --> 00:08:14,160 that I felt like in the country that could really 155 00:08:14,199 --> 00:08:20,399 slow cam Ward and that offense. But they executed their 156 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:27,120 defensive game plan to perfection. Defensive coordinator Tyler Santucci, you 157 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,680 know when that game was over, and you guys will 158 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,679 remember this game. Finally, in the last fifteen years, when 159 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:39,000 I think of like defensive coaching masterpieces, I always compare 160 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:42,240 them to what Bud Foster and Virginia Tech did when 161 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,759 they went to Ohio State and shut down you know, 162 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:47,039 that Buckeye team that was gonna went on to win 163 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,639 the national championship, you know everything. When I think of 164 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,360 that kind of of coaching, I think of that, and 165 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,440 I felt like Georgia Tech was in that ballpark in 166 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,879 a game, you know, as game planned as well and 167 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,279 his coached as well as as they really they could 168 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,960 possibly do, and then they had to be that way 169 00:09:08,039 --> 00:09:11,919 to knock off Miami. Then you go to the offensive 170 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,200 side of the ball and Haines King was he was limited. 171 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:18,759 He's still suffering with a shoulder injury. He can't throw 172 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:23,120 the ball down field. He did not attempt one vertical pass, 173 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,240 you know, over ten yards. He physically could not do 174 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:31,759 that and Buster Faukner offensive coordinator, and bet Cree. You know, 175 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:35,639 they devised a system to have King basically be your 176 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:41,840 primarily your primary running quarterback, and then shuffled in Aaron 177 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,559 and I hope I don't mess up his name, Aaron Fafilo, 178 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,399 freshman quarterback to come in on passing downs. And you know, 179 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,559 this was a severely under under maned Georgia Tech team. 180 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:56,720 Multiple injuries, you know, all across, you know, both sides 181 00:09:56,759 --> 00:10:00,600 of the ball. Jamal Haynes are starting running back, you know, 182 00:10:00,759 --> 00:10:02,799 hurt early in the game, was out for the rest 183 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,759 of the game, and you know, it was just one 184 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:08,840 of those days. And I'm glad Dan that you didn't 185 00:10:08,919 --> 00:10:11,840 just put Miami out there as a disappointing team, because 186 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:15,080 I don't think they you know, they didn't play their 187 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,679 best game and then you definitely they were out coached 188 00:10:17,879 --> 00:10:20,559 by Georgia Tech. But I mean it took really like 189 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,240 a near perfect effort for Georgia Tech to win that game. 190 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:28,000 You still, cam Warden has the ball with a minute 191 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,799 and a half left, You think he's gonna do it again, 192 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:32,720 and you know Georgia Tech gets the fumble. I don't 193 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,519 think Miami is done by any stretch. This This does 194 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,759 not appear like, oh, the frauds were explode exposed as 195 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,919 much as like, yeah, they've been playing with fire for weeks. 196 00:10:42,919 --> 00:10:46,159 But that's still a team that can get to the 197 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,960 ACC title game and reach the playoffs. But from a 198 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,919 Georgia Tech fan standpoint, I mean, just just a thrilling 199 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,639 victory and great to see the fans rush rush the 200 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,399 field to see, you know, a team come together that 201 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:01,879 you know it was just injury riddled and pulled off 202 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:05,360 an upset like that. So that was great from my side. 203 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:11,279 Speaker 4: So so job, I've got some great box score knowledge 204 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:13,279 to share with you from this game, which makes this 205 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,879 even crazier. So cam Ward threw for three hundred and 206 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:20,840 forty eight yards and three touchdowns. Between Aaron Filo and 207 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:25,120 Hans King combined, they threw for less than one hundred yards. 208 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,039 They threw for ninety nine yards, and they still came 209 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,919 away with the win. So that I think that just 210 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,240 speaks to what an amazing defensive performance Georgia Tech had 211 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,000 this week. It was just crazy. So like like, hats 212 00:11:38,039 --> 00:11:39,200 off zim those great. 213 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just you look at Brent Key and in 214 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,279 the hiring of Tyler Santucci's just been a fantastic hire 215 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,600 on the defensive side of the ball. You know, the 216 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:55,120 defenses outperformed what many expected all during the course of 217 00:11:55,159 --> 00:11:58,120 the season, and you know, for the first time probably 218 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,519 sends it the John to nowda days at Georgia Tech. 219 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,039 You feel like the defense is really in a solid 220 00:12:04,039 --> 00:12:07,679 position going forward. But now Georgia Tech gets to enjoy 221 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,600 a bye week, which is probably the best way to enjoy. 222 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:10,919 Speaker 4: Uh. 223 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,159 Speaker 1: You know, they really get to enjoy that that game 224 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,799 before their Thursday night game and in a couple of 225 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:19,960 weeks with with NC State and we want to get 226 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,639 into you know what's upcoming next week? Dan here in 227 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,639 the ACC, Which ACC football games are you looking forward 228 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,799 to the most? In week twelve? Yeah? I can't believe 229 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:32,159 that we're already in week twelve. 230 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:37,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. Every every week when I'm doing my like my 231 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,960 predictions and my weekly rankings, it's I look at what 232 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,080 week it is, and like I see the like the 233 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,320 week eleven just passed. It's just crazy to me we're 234 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,120 coming up on the end of the season, which is 235 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:53,720 it just flew by? Yeah, But for me, that Clemson 236 00:12:53,799 --> 00:12:57,440 pit game, I think that's that's the biggest one on 237 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:02,519 the ACC slate this week basically because it's like the 238 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,279 loser I think plays their way out of an opportunity 239 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,360 to go to Charlotte. Uh, the winner stays in the race. 240 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:12,000 So I think that's the one, from like an ACC standpoint, 241 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,919 that has the just like it's the big, the highest 242 00:13:16,919 --> 00:13:19,679 stakes this week. I think that's the one that if 243 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,639 you're a fan of the ACC and you're a student, 244 00:13:21,799 --> 00:13:23,480 to see who's gonna go to Charlotte, I think that's 245 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:24,679 the one you got to be looking at. 246 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely when I have my eye on as well. 247 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:42,279 And I'm really wondering about about Pittsburgh, like you talked about, Dan, 248 00:13:42,519 --> 00:13:46,960 I mean, huge opportunity this past weekend in a primetime 249 00:13:47,039 --> 00:13:52,559 game and just you know, face planted there against Virginia. 250 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,320 You know, if they don't beat Clemson on Saturday, that'll 251 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,679 be three losses in a row for them and just 252 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,639 you know, have a season drailed and Clemson for their part, 253 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:06,840 I mean, it's definitely a long shot to reach the playoffs, 254 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,360 you know, get into the ACC title game, but I 255 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:15,039 think there's a little bit of a path there. It's 256 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:19,240 a narrow one, very very narrow but you win at Pittsburgh, 257 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,159 you come back and you knock off the Citadel. You're 258 00:14:23,159 --> 00:14:25,679 twenty third in the poll right now. You know, maybe 259 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,799 this week maybe you move up to twenty twenty one. 260 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,440 Beat Pittsburgh, now a couple more spots, Citadel, maybe a 261 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,320 couple more. You're maybe around fifteen or so, and you're 262 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,720 playing South Carolina in the final game of the season. 263 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:42,759 Who I'm feeling pretty confident is going to be you know, 264 00:14:42,919 --> 00:14:45,440 ranked at that time. You know, you get a top 265 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:50,000 twenty SEC opponent. You never know with upsets going on 266 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,000 out there, the way they value SEC wins out there, 267 00:14:54,879 --> 00:14:58,080 I don't think they're quite dead. It's on live support, 268 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,279 but I don't think they're quite dead yet. Got to 269 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,799 keep playing and see what happens. I'm also curious to see, 270 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:09,279 you know, with all the carnage that happened this past weekend, 271 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:14,960 how SMU response. They're leading the ACC now amazing story 272 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,200 about rhet Lashly and and that SMU team, and they 273 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,159 get a pretty decent Boston College team going down there 274 00:15:23,159 --> 00:15:26,559 and to uh, you know, to SMU, you know, how's 275 00:15:26,799 --> 00:15:29,799 how are the Mustang's gonna respond? Are they going to 276 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:33,039 kind of take you know, seize control of this ACC 277 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:39,639 and and really you know, position themselves to get to Charlotte, 278 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:42,399 maybe make a playoff game. I mean, they're probably a 279 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,480 little bit underrated at thirteen, but they control their own destiny. 280 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:49,080 So that's a game I'm definitely looking forward to as well. 281 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:53,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think at this point you got to consider 282 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:58,200 SMU and Miami the leaders in the clubhouse to go 283 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,200 to Charlotte. But it's really at this point, like can 284 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,960 SMU keep it going, can Miami keep it going? And 285 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,399 like can they do like they control their destiny now, 286 00:16:08,559 --> 00:16:10,679 like can they continue to control their destiny and keep 287 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,879 winning out and make it there? I think they'd be 288 00:16:13,919 --> 00:16:16,799 the odds on favorite, But I think, like I said before, 289 00:16:16,919 --> 00:16:20,960 Clemson and Pitt definitely aren't dead yet. So like I 290 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,200 think if they can keep winning, and I like what 291 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,000 you said, Jeff, if I think if Clemson can win now, 292 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,720 they would definitely have consideration for an at large bid 293 00:16:31,039 --> 00:16:33,200 to the College Football Playoffs, So I think that's something 294 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,519 they need to be playing for as well. 295 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:42,559 Speaker 1: Very good there, Dan, You know which ACC team do 296 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,840 you think could be on upset alert in Week twelve 297 00:16:45,879 --> 00:16:47,840 if they're caught lurking ahead? To a game on their 298 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:51,120 schedule or otherwise just sleep walking on the field. 299 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,879 Speaker 4: So looking again out that Pitt Clemson game. Clemson's favored 300 00:16:56,879 --> 00:16:59,639 by ten, but I also think Pitt has something to 301 00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:02,879 prove after last week, especially with that game being at 302 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:06,240 home for Pitt. And also, like from what I've seen 303 00:17:06,279 --> 00:17:09,359 from Clemson and I understand, they got a win over 304 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,720 Virginia Tech this week, and it's it's not exactly easy 305 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:16,799 to get a win in Blacksburg. I mean, I wouldn't 306 00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:18,680 say it's hard either, but like that was that was 307 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,480 an impressive win. But I would say that I don't 308 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:26,400 think Clemson is the Clemson of old. The Clemson of 309 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,279 old would have got into this game at Pitt and 310 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,720 just taken care of business. I don't think that they're 311 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:33,079 that team, and I think they got to look out. 312 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,079 Like I understand, at this point, they're double digit favorites, 313 00:17:37,079 --> 00:17:39,319 but I think Pitt could easily come out and win 314 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:39,799 that game. 315 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's step out of the ACC for a 316 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,160 bid here, Dan, which national FBS game are you looking 317 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,839 forward to to most in week twelve? And we're wide 318 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,279 open with this question. This can be a power forward, 319 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,720 non power four G five game. You can even have 320 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:05,440 an FCS matchup and then give us a winner of 321 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,880 that game or two that you're eyeing nationally. 322 00:18:09,559 --> 00:18:11,839 Speaker 4: So I'm looking at that Tennessee Georgia game. I think 323 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,039 that's going to be a great game. I think that's 324 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:17,880 going to be a really exciting one. One thing that 325 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,599 I'm looking for to there is that I think that 326 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,319 a lot of people are not paying a lot of 327 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,200 attention to Tennessee, even though Tennessee's ranked into the top ten. 328 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,440 I think Tennessee could easily go to Georgia and win 329 00:18:29,519 --> 00:18:32,400 that game. I don't think that they're getting the credit 330 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,960 that they deserve. And I think that this is a 331 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,119 really good opportunity for Tennessee to show that they can 332 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:40,480 beat a team like Georgia. That's the first thing, but 333 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:43,359 then secondly that that really puts them in the driver's 334 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,839 seat to be in good position to win the SEC 335 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,359 but then also to get a high ranking in the 336 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,680 College football playoffs. So definitely one that I'll be tuning 337 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,880 in for this weekend. 338 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm glad you mentioned that game, Dan, because 339 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:04,759 you know, if Tennessee knocks off Georgia, that's gonna be 340 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:09,200 Georgia's third loss. And you know, we'll see if this 341 00:19:09,279 --> 00:19:12,319 becomes an open mic for me in about three weeks 342 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,440 or not. But if Tennessee beats Georgia, as far as 343 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,079 I'm concerned, they're out of the playoffs. I'm sorry. You 344 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,759 can't convince me that that Georgia team that looked horrible 345 00:19:23,799 --> 00:19:28,079 against a really bad Florida team got stuffed in a 346 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,359 locker by Ole Miss and then loses to Tennessee here 347 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,880 in the month of November. And I'm not taking away 348 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,359 anything from you know, winning at Texas or you know, 349 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,839 the beatdown they put on Clemson earlier in the year. 350 00:19:42,839 --> 00:19:45,319 But you know, the job is to identify the twelve 351 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,839 best football teams at the time of the playoffs, you know. 352 00:19:49,599 --> 00:19:52,559 And it's just it's just a fact that games towards 353 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:56,039 the end of the season are gonna, you know, weight 354 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,039 heavier than at the beginning of the year, especially if 355 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:02,359 you start losing game. I'm not even sure that the 356 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,880 win at Tennessee or win at Texas is a very 357 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,039 strong win. Don't get me wrong, But I don't. I don't, 358 00:20:10,079 --> 00:20:13,839 I don't if I'm remembering right, Texas doesn't have you know, 359 00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:16,839 a top twenty five win on their entire schedule at 360 00:20:16,839 --> 00:20:20,720 the moment. And you know, we know about Clemson. They 361 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,039 don't have a top twenty five win either, and right 362 00:20:25,079 --> 00:20:27,440 now they're not one of the two best teams in 363 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,160 the ACC. So I think those two wins you could 364 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:34,359 arguably diminish them a little bit. Now, if Georgia beats Tennessee, 365 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:37,400 I have no problem if they're worked into the playoffs, 366 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,119 but you throw a third loss up there with the 367 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,880 way that they have played during the month of November, 368 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,720 and I don't see how any reasonable college football observer 369 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,480 can put them into the playoffs. So if they get 370 00:20:51,519 --> 00:20:55,000 in with three losses, you can expect a massive rant 371 00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:56,359 from me on that day. 372 00:20:58,319 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 4: I also think that there's I don't know if it's 373 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,720 a thought with SEC fans or as college football fans 374 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:06,480 in general, but I think teams get a lot of 375 00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:09,400 credit when they beat teams that have been there before, 376 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,519 like teams that have won the national title like Georgia, 377 00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:15,319 teams that have won the national title like Alabama. I 378 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:18,160 think you've got a little bit more credit when you 379 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,319 when you're able to get a win against those kind 380 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,559 of teams, And I think beating a team like Georgia 381 00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:26,720 would go a long way to building Tennessee's case and 382 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:29,920 credibility for getting a high ranking in the CFP. So 383 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,920 just something I'm watching out for this week because if 384 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,240 they get that win, I think they're in a really 385 00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:35,839 good position. 386 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm definitely I'm definitely good with with the 387 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,480 position Tennessee would be in because it's still going to 388 00:21:42,519 --> 00:21:44,400 be a tall task to go into. I think the 389 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,880 games in Athens. To win that game, Tennessee would just have, 390 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,119 you know, one one loss to Arkansas. You know they 391 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,880 have the win over Alabama as well, so you know, 392 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,599 if Tennessee goes into Athens, I think they're in a 393 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:06,079 great position. So Dan, our next two segments, we've kind 394 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,200 of set them up a little bit differently than we 395 00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:12,079 have in past years. I want to turn it over 396 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,519 to you. We're gonna have two open mic segments, but 397 00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:16,720 this next one is going to be strictly for you 398 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:20,400 and anything that you're thinking, what do you have for 399 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:22,960 us that's on your mind. You can go Virginia Tech, 400 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:27,680 you can go National, you can go the atrocious officiating 401 00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:32,279 that's spread across the entire country to every conference. It's 402 00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:35,039 you know, I think it's as bad as we've ever 403 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:40,400 seen turning over games on literally turning over games on calls. 404 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:44,400 You know, I know that you all had that happen 405 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:49,759 to you all. But what happened down at you know, 406 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,640 at Utah B. Why you a game looked effectively over 407 00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:57,240 controversial holding call? Depending on who you ask, it's been happening, 408 00:22:57,319 --> 00:23:00,480 you know, throwing stuff on the field, getting calls over return. 409 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,680 It's just been bananas. Anywhere you want to go. That 410 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:06,039 might be my rant maybe. 411 00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: But anywhere you want it sounded like you already did. 412 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Sorry, I kind of I kind of 413 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,119 went off there on my own. No, this is your time, Dan, 414 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,039 go ahead. 415 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: I'll just double down on that one. Just and honestly, 416 00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:23,279 every time I come on this podcast, I don't want 417 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:26,200 to talk about acc officials. I want to move on 418 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:28,200 to other topics, but I think I have to bring 419 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,279 it up again, and I'll just paint a picture like 420 00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:34,839 this is something that I saw yesterday that just boggled 421 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,200 my mind. So I'm watching the end of that Pituva game, 422 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,599 fourth and one. Laid in the game, pick Pit picks 423 00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:47,480 it up on like a QB sneak fourth and one. 424 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,480 They got the first down, but then the officials afterward 425 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:56,200 blow the whistle and say that play didn't count. They're 426 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,480 going to do a review because one of the officials 427 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:02,480 was not in position right. I watch a lot of football. 428 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:06,000 I've watched college football for years. I've never seen that 429 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:08,839 happen before. I'm sure it does happen, but I've never 430 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,839 seen it happen in like a late game, critical situation. 431 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,640 And all it does is make me think of how 432 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,880 bad the officiating is in this conference. And in my mind, 433 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:19,960 it's as bad as it's ever been, Like I've never 434 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,839 seen it this bad, And honestly, it looks like I'm 435 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:26,279 watching high school refs week to week. So I don't 436 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:28,400 know what it's gonna take. Like if I had to 437 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,400 give the ACC a recommendation, I would say, you need 438 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,960 somebody at the head office that's just a judging officials 439 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,839 week to week. Give them a weekly report card any 440 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,599 mistakes that they make, send it to them like and 441 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,079 hopefully over time that they would improve. But like at 442 00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:49,039 this point, I just feel like there's no accountability, Like 443 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:51,480 the refs can just continue to be bad week in 444 00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:56,799 and week out. Ress can't spot the ball, like rest 445 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,640 take a long time doing reviews the review don't end 446 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,759 up being like the right call either way, just they 447 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:07,279 just say call on the field stands Like, I just 448 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:11,480 think that there is no accountability to get good officiating 449 00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:14,640 in this conference. And I also watch other games across 450 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,640 the country. I watch SEC games, I watch Big twelve games, 451 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,720 Big ten games. I feel like they have better officiating 452 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:23,039 than we have. So I don't know what it's going 453 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,559 to take for the ACC to get better officials of 454 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,240 week to week than what we currently have. 455 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, we could definitely go on about the officiating that 456 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:44,039 goes on really bizarre play that that Pitt Virginia finished there, 457 00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:46,480 and I mean I had, you know, no dog in 458 00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:51,359 the fight as a as a rooting fan, and objectively, 459 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,960 I think Pitt got hosed on that that call because 460 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:01,079 I've never seen officiating ruling like that that they weren't set. 461 00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:04,400 I know, I was on Twitter and a couple Virginia's 462 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,480 fans said, oh, they were just off sides. Well, I mean, 463 00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:11,559 if they were off sides, you call off sides. If 464 00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:13,559 you're not set, you blow the whistle. You don't let 465 00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:15,759 the play run. I mean they ran that play to completion, 466 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,279 and I mean it's just a tough way for for 467 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,880 Pitt to lose. I'm not taking anyway from from Virginia 468 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,680 in the overall scheme of that win, because they came 469 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,039 in ready to play. Pitt was completely listless through the 470 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,720 entirety of that game. And you know Pitt out, I 471 00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:38,000 mean Virginia. I thought I felt like it was more 472 00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:42,319 physical outplay them. I played with more effort, but still 473 00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:48,000 very controversial and unfortunate way for that game to end. 474 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,440 All Right, Matthew, I'm gonna turn it over to you 475 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,519 for our final segment. 476 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,519 Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely, Dan, I'm gonna use my open mic to 477 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,440 ask you a question and this this may lead to 478 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,400 your open mic. I have written quite a bit about 479 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,000 Virginia Tech this year, and more than I have in 480 00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:14,599 prior years on priy, I should say, and part of 481 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,240 it is I don't think people knew no really, and 482 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,559 you can probably verify this after I'm done talking. But 483 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,119 I believe, if I'm not mistaken, prize contract goes through 484 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,880 the end of twenty twenty seven. SANS contract also goes 485 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,720 through the end of twenty twenty seven. Here we're talking 486 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,200 about the end of the academic years, and I believe 487 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,680 it's twenty twenty nine for with Babcock. So those are 488 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:42,359 probably some really important, really important milestone's coming up for 489 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,000 the Board of Visitors to consider and what the really 490 00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:48,200 what the future direction of the college is. I mean, 491 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,920 Louisville was in this same situation a few years back 492 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,480 when they hired a when they hired a new provost 493 00:27:54,599 --> 00:27:56,839 and then a new president and a new AD and 494 00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:59,839 they had a lot of key positions that were open 495 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,839 at the time, and they had football and men's basketball 496 00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:03,640 open at the time. 497 00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: We're just good right now. Virginia Tech's just in the position. 498 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: Of having to to deal deal with you know'll potentially 499 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,880 deal with the football coach, but an A and an AD. 500 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,799 So it'll be interesting because I think there's probably not 501 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:20,880 there's probably not many Virginia Tech fans that want to 502 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,440 see whip Babcock have another have a third shot shot 503 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,480 at hiring a football coach, and so you know, there's 504 00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:28,960 a lot. Like I said, the short of it is 505 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,400 that there's a lot of decisions that are coming up 506 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000 for the Board of Visitors. So that's I want to 507 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,640 get your take on that. That's the first thing. The 508 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,920 second thing is probably more immediate, like right after the 509 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,759 Vandy game. I wrote a post and Jeff Jeff will 510 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,119 attest to this. I said, boy, I think Virginia Tech's 511 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:52,000 ceiling is at seven and five. I wrote that on 512 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:59,119 August thirty. First, I could very well be correct. I 513 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,519 don't necessary really think that Virginia Tech will be favored 514 00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:03,799 when it goes down to Duke. 515 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,519 Speaker 2: I could be wrong. 516 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: You'll also have more on that. I'd like your take 517 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:09,559 on that too, But is that it is seven? Is 518 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,319 seven and five the ceiling for Virginia Tech. I know 519 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:14,960 I've got a lot of questions out there. I gave 520 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 a lot of commentary. I guess I'll consider that my 521 00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:19,640 open mic for tonight. I want to get your take. 522 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,119 Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm being honest, I would expect seven 523 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,680 and five. Like I think that they can get wins 524 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,559 in the next two games. At a minimum, I think 525 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,079 they'll be Bowl eligible to win one of the next two. 526 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,680 But if I'm being just completely, like intellectually honest about 527 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,480 where I stand, like I think that they're going to 528 00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:46,119 go seven and five, I think that's that's realistic. So 529 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,000 I think you'll end up being right. Matthew. When you 530 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:51,680 wrote that tweet back in August after the Vandy game, 531 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,400 I was like, I felt like you were overreacting to 532 00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:57,079 one game because I really felt like there was a 533 00:29:57,079 --> 00:29:59,440 lot of time for Tech to turn it around after 534 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,480 that game ended up being well, I think you you 535 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:06,160 will end up being exactly right, which in respect it 536 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,319 feels a little bit crazy to me. But but in 537 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,799 terms of Priye and with Babcock, I don't think anyone 538 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,039 either of them are going anywhere after this season. I 539 00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:23,720 think there's gonna be some pressure on pri to make 540 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:31,000 coaching changes, like at the coordinator level, or like at 541 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,599 the like at the assistant coach level, like at at 542 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:37,920 position groups. I can see the those kind of changes 543 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,519 being made, but I really don't see Priye losing his job. 544 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,200 The only time, the only way that that even becomes 545 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,920 a possibility is if they lose the next two and 546 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,279 they finish five and seven and don't make a bowl game. 547 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,480 I could see that question maybe coming up, or like 548 00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:54,200 other than that, I don't think it's going to happen. 549 00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:58,039 And I really think it's like before another coach gets 550 00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:01,279 hired here, there's gonna be a change in athletic director, 551 00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,039 and at this point, I don't know when that would happen. 552 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:08,119 I don't think it's going to happen this offseason. So 553 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,880 I think it would take another bad football season, another 554 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,079 season where we don't see improvement, for something like that 555 00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:18,799 to happen. But I think both of them are safe 556 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,000 through the rest of this football season, and I'd imagine 557 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:24,519 both of them will still be around going into the 558 00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:25,640 twenty twenty five season. 559 00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: Do you think Sands will be I mean, do you 560 00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:31,480 think Sands contract's going to be renewed. I'm really curious 561 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,039 about that, only because here's why I say that. I mean, like, 562 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,079 on a lot of fronts, he's done a heck of 563 00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:37,480 a job. 564 00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,519 Speaker 2: They've increased and I wrote about this. 565 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: I wrote about this in fact, that they've increased research dollars, 566 00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:46,000 I mean research dollars. They've just gone through the roof 567 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,920 under Sands A. They've got that new center in northern 568 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,599 Virginia and Alexandria. It's probably going to be a major 569 00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:57,799 partner with the intelligence community and the national defense community, 570 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,680 you know. And it's one of those things Dan that 571 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,720 I think could actually potentially put Virginia Tech into the 572 00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:08,799 spot of getting an AAU sort of invite. 573 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,799 Speaker 2: And I know that that's kind of what. 574 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: Sands is shooting for, and if he were to get that, 575 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:18,559 he probably would change his stock overnight. But you know, 576 00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:20,720 he's done, He's done a lot of good, good things 577 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,519 on that front. Plus you see, you know, multiple programs 578 00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:26,160 that are in the national national rankings and a Virginia 579 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,359 Tack's now on top twenty five public university. Right, I mean, 580 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,440 and this is pretty I mean, these are pretty these 581 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,200 are not insignificant accomplishments. Is pretty terrific. But there are 582 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:41,920 there there there, there's the football issue. So uh, I'm curious, said, 583 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,359 where where where? Where you where you think where you 584 00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:47,000 think Tim stands with the with the with about the. 585 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 4: So I'm not super close to the academic side, but 586 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,160 I can just pass along what I hear. It seems 587 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,039 like Sands is popular within like the academic circles at 588 00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:02,839 Virginia Tech. I also think that there's he has enough 589 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,400 fans within the board of visitors that I don't think 590 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,079 anyone's asking to make a change there. And I also thinks, 591 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,680 as it relates to with Babcock, I think Sands likes 592 00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,920 with Babcock, and I think they have remained on the 593 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,240 same page for a long time. Obviously, football is really 594 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,440 important Virginia Tech, and I think that's the one, the 595 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:26,279 one big major strike against with Babcock at this point. 596 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,759 But yeah, I mean, like sands is popularity with the 597 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:34,960 board of visitors, sans Sands standing behind his guy, and 598 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,960 with Babcock, I really just don't see any changes being 599 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,039 made anytime soon, which if you go, if you follow 600 00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:44,440 that down the line, that's another reason I don't think 601 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,319 PRI is going anywhere either, because Sands is staying where 602 00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:51,599 he's he's going to be. Wits definitely got more time 603 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,920 before change is made there. So I think given those 604 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,000 two things, I think pri is sticking around. I think 605 00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:01,079 WIT's gonna ask Pry to make some changes possibly going 606 00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:04,200 into next year, just because the season has definitely been 607 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,079 a disappointment. But other than that, I just don't see 608 00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:08,639 major changes happening the sum now. 609 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: For sure. I didn't expect him to be out either 610 00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,199 after after that. I didn't expect Pride to be out 611 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,159 after this year. I know there were some fans that 612 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,400 are like, Oh, it's gonna be out, He's gonna be out. No, 613 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:17,800 he's not. 614 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because I meant and I mentioned I 615 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,320 even mentioned in that I mentioned in that post that 616 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,599 you know, the more likely thing is that that he'll 617 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,599 be required to make some changes at the at the 618 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,719 you know, and some of the major coordinator and position 619 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,239 and major major coordinator coaching positions and the and some 620 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,440 of the position. 621 00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:39,199 Speaker 2: Coaching coaching assignment. 622 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I think I'm absolutely on board with 623 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,280 what you had to what you had to say there. 624 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,239 But it's like you know the timelines that you know, 625 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,000 the timeline's four years right basically for everybody. 626 00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's you want to make you know. 627 00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:54,159 Speaker 3: And it's interesting because you want to make sure that 628 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,159 the president has whoever's hired as president, whether it's you know, 629 00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:01,760 the next time around, whenever Sans contract comes up, whether 630 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,440 it's him or somebody else, he may decide he wants 631 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,000 to go elsewhere. Right, you know, whoever it is you 632 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,960 want that you want that person will want to have 633 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,960 a major play. And who's going to be the head 634 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,800 fotball coach and who's going to be the AD. I mean, 635 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,840 that's that's probably the only fair because you want the 636 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,440 president and the BOV then you know, with their endorsement, 637 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,639 to put their shape on the university. That's generally generally 638 00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:28,679 how it goes, So those are I'm I agree with you, 639 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,559 and I think it's good to have somebody on here 640 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:32,719 who's reasonably level headed. 641 00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 2: So there you go, There you go. What do you 642 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,880 got for us? Dan? You got anything? I know? 643 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 3: I know I've I used a significant part of this 644 00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:43,559 open mic asking you questions, what do you got a 645 00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:46,880 second segment that you would like to to add here? 646 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: And then we'll turn it up. 647 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 4: Sure, So my next one, and I was hoping that 648 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,079 Virginia Tech would come up outside of my open mic, 649 00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:56,840 so thank you for asking me about that. But my 650 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,719 second open mic is gonna be say, I don't think 651 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,039 people are even are ready for how crazy the college 652 00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:06,199 football playoffs is gonna be. I think when the twelve 653 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,079 team playoff was first announced, I immediately started thinking, this 654 00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:14,039 is gonna be March madness but on grass. This is 655 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:17,360 gonna be football's version of March madness, and it's gonna 656 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,920 be completely insane. And I know that a lot of 657 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,280 people talk about they're not expecting upsets. I think it's 658 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,760 gonna be chucked. They say the same four teams are 659 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,519 gonna make the semi final that we're making it before. 660 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,519 I don't think that's true, Like I think that there's 661 00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:35,440 gonna be upsets. I think it's gonna be crazy. I 662 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,800 think there's gonna be last minute wins on field goals, 663 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,239 like last minute scores that decide those games. I think 664 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,840 those games are gonna be wild, and I don't hear 665 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,960 enough people talking about that. I'm super excited. I think 666 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,639 it's gonna be crazy. And I also think just all 667 00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,599 the movement in the top twenty five this year, like 668 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,639 there's no standout team, Like I know Oregon thinks that 669 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,960 they are, but they may not be. So I think 670 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:01,840 it's going to be really crazy this year. So I'm 671 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,000 excited to see what happens. 672 00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:07,639 Speaker 3: Then, excellent take Jeff, You're a friend. 673 00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to. I'm kind of follow up 674 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,920 on what Dan says as I was thinking about what 675 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,920 to get into, you know, with with the playoffs. I mean, 676 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,880 we're already starting to talk about how, you know, one 677 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,360 big league or something something like, we're going to have 678 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,239 six SEC teams and how do you break it up 679 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,159 into to the two or three or four that are 680 00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:37,079 getting I mean a couple of you know, there's a 681 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:39,480 scenario I think I saw where you'll have six ten 682 00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:43,280 two SEC teams and you know, they're not all getting in, 683 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,559 and you know, who knows what the playoffs are going 684 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,639 to look like in a couple of years after this 685 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:54,599 group or after these next couple of years, if Greg 686 00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:59,719 Sanky and Tony Petiti completely destroy it. But I think 687 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,000 for the next couple of years, I'm like, I'm not 688 00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:05,599 really excited, you know, with this current format. I'm getting 689 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:07,840 really on board with it the more as we go. 690 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,840 You know, if you look at you know, we were 691 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,400 talking about Georgia before and they lost three games, and 692 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,960 you know, there's probably if that happens, If that happens, 693 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,039 then they lose three games, I mean, there's gonna be 694 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:26,039 somebody from you know, SEC world that's gonna you know, 695 00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:30,880 complain about Georgia not getting in. But the bottom line is, 696 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,920 you know, every team is now having a mulligan and 697 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,159 an opportunity to get into the playoffs. And if you 698 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,599 would have just won, you wouldn't make it. There wouldn't 699 00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:44,920 There's not gonna be any more stuff like what happened 700 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,000 with last year. You know, if SMU, you know, they 701 00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:52,039 control their own destiny to get to the playoff, Miami 702 00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:56,559 still controls their own you know path to the to 703 00:38:56,639 --> 00:39:00,280 the playoffs despite losing to Georgia Tech uh the other 704 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,400 the other day. You know, if you're Clemson and you're 705 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,519 ten and two and you went out and you don't 706 00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:09,679 make it, I mean, at the end of the day, 707 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,679 do you have anyone to blame but yourself? You know, 708 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,639 when you when you face planted at against Georgia or 709 00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:19,320 when you were at home in a primetime game with 710 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,840 Louisville and completely got out played. I mean, that's what 711 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,519 I'm looking forward to, is that you know, the teams 712 00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:28,679 on the on the at large edge kind of like 713 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,280 a bubble team. Like you can definitely, you know, get 714 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,400 frustrated and argue about a bubble team and the NCAA 715 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:41,159 tournament getting left out, but you cannot get away from 716 00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:44,000 that if you don't probably won a couple more games 717 00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:46,159 along the way that you wouldn't even have been in 718 00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:49,039 that position. So it's it's still not going to be fair. 719 00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,719 There's still going to be controversy, but it's never It's 720 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,159 not going to be like it was last year where 721 00:39:57,159 --> 00:40:00,440 a deserving team got left out. You know, the most 722 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,320 deserving teams are gonna make it, and everything after that 723 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,280 is just you know it's gonna it might be controversial, 724 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,320 there might be great arguments for a team's inclusion or not, 725 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,719 but you're not gonna see a P four undefeated team 726 00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:18,840 or even I would say one with one loss likely 727 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,480 to get left out. You lose a couple times during 728 00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:24,480 the course of the year, and you're leaving it in 729 00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:26,800 the hands of the committee. And that's what I think 730 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,880 is gonna be really great about the playoffs. You know, 731 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,199 Miami takes a loss and they can still you know, 732 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,760 work themselves back into the playoffs. You know, one loss 733 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,760 doesn't do you in, and you can you control your 734 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,760 way in now very much more so than at any 735 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,440 time in the past. And so I've really gotten on 736 00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:51,440 board with the playoff format and I'm looking, like Dan said, 737 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,960 I'm looking forward to how the you know it plays out. 738 00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:59,320 I mean, there's nothing set in stone, and who knows 739 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,360 what upset we could have in the final three four 740 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,719 weeks in the season. You know, how are the conference 741 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,639 championship games gonna be weighted? That's one thing I really 742 00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:12,880 want to see. You know, if you make it to 743 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,400 the championship game and you're one of the teams on 744 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,599 the edge and you lose that game in a close game, 745 00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:21,400 you know, are they going to drop you in favor 746 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,679 a team of a team that got to sit at home. 747 00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:27,159 I mean, it's probably gonna happen. I hope it doesn't. 748 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,039 That'll be another rant. I think. I think it's pretty 749 00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:32,920 I'll have a big problem with penalizing a team that 750 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,480 made a championship game over one that got to sit 751 00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:39,920 at home. But we saw that in the fourteen playoff. 752 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,400 So yeah, it's going to be a great next month 753 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,880 of the season. And I think the playoff for the 754 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,760 new playoff format has really enhanced that. 755 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely. I have those are very good takes, Jeff Dan. 756 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,480 I have one more question for you, and this time 757 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,800 it's about the rehoe with beach area in Delaware. Have 758 00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:04,559 you tried is a Grotto pizza? 759 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,599 Speaker 4: I don't think I have. I mean it's possible I do, 760 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,800 but it's been a long time. I don't remember it, 761 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,480 and then the name's not sticking out to me. 762 00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:17,599 Speaker 3: Okay, it seems to be something that's all around Delaware 763 00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:21,079 and it seems to be getting high reviews. I will 764 00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:25,039 let you know what it tastes like tomorrow. I'll take 765 00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:27,079 a photo of it, I promise. That's the first thing. 766 00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:29,440 The second thing, I just want to let you know 767 00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,039 I hate college football realignment because I just read a 768 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,280 story about North Dakota State possibly leaving f FCS and 769 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,559 going to the Mountain West, and I hate that because 770 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,360 I always feel like that's where the bio, that's where 771 00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:47,119 that's where the Bison belonged. Am I not right? Every 772 00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:49,840 December I want to see the Bison. I want the 773 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,360 nation to see the I want the nation to see 774 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,039 the Bison in December and the Fargo Dome with all 775 00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:00,440 these guys wearing their Bison masks and their Bison gear. 776 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 2: Am I wrong about that? 777 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,679 Speaker 4: I would say no. I mean I like seeing the 778 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,360 Great Plains teams like really dominate FCS and like that's 779 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,039 kind of like their own separate college football league, which 780 00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:15,880 I think is cool. But I would I would. I'd 781 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,119 be long if I if I said I wasn't interested 782 00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:19,880 to see how they would do at the next level, 783 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,239 because we've seen teams like JMU make the jump and 784 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,960 like have pretty immediate success. Like I could see the 785 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,239 Bison doing the same. So I think they're gonna be 786 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:31,599 just fine. 787 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:33,559 Speaker 3: They're gonna do well on the out and West trust me. 788 00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:35,599 But I but I you know what, I hate college 789 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:38,119 football realignment. I hate what it's done to this sport. 790 00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:41,639 Then I'm I'm upset with NIL as well. And we 791 00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:43,800 probably could have a separate podcast about that. 792 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 2: So maybe and maybe. 793 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 3: We will have a special segment where we talking about that. Dan, 794 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,679 thank you so much for joining us on short notice 795 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,519 from the O Shit. We really appreciate it. You have 796 00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:03,239 a great weekend and you enjoy your holiday. And by 797 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,920 the way, thank you to all the veterans for their service. 798 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 2: We appreciate you. 799 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,079 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us this Sunday night, Dan and 800 00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:12,320 spending your Sunday. 801 00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 2: Evening with us. 802 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. 803 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 2: You guys have a great week 804 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 1: Right bye everyone,