Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to the Strategy Session. I am
Speaker 1: Rick Wilson, your host tonight, joined by my friend Matthew
Speaker 1: Dowd and another member of the Lincoln Project team that
Speaker 1: is bringing the fight to the bad guys this year.
Speaker 2: Matt, it's a big night tonight.
Speaker 1: We've got a whole bunch of primaries in Florida, Alaska, Wyoming, California.
Speaker 1: For a couple of specials here and there. It's uh,
Speaker 1: we're getting onto the end of primary season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, are we finally at the
Speaker 3: end of primary scene? I actually like the way they
Speaker 3: do it in Texas where they hold the primary in
Speaker 3: March and you can have a general election for seven
Speaker 3: and a half months.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh.
Speaker 1: I know, being a longtime Florida guy, these fall primaries
Speaker 1: always just crush you because it's like you have to
Speaker 1: do all the statewide campaigning and all the fundraising in
Speaker 1: sixty days. Yep, it's a it's a well, seventy days,
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a crush.
Speaker 2: So, you know, I think Florida. Everybody's watching Florida.
Speaker 1: I think the governor's race is looking good for David
Speaker 1: Jolly in the primary in all these places, folks, the
Speaker 1: big issues, data centers, crypto taxes, and of course affordability
Speaker 1: has just eaten up the mind space of people in
Speaker 1: the country this year, Matt, And I'm curious what your
Speaker 1: thoughts are about, like, Florida is a more conservative state
Speaker 1: even for Democrats than a lot of other states, and
Speaker 1: you're going to end up it looks like tonight, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't know yet, but it looks like David Jolly
Speaker 1: and Alex Vineman are going to be the statewide candidates
Speaker 1: at the top of the ticket. And I'm curious about
Speaker 1: your thoughts about how these progressive movements in the primaries
Speaker 1: and other states have been very active and it's not
Speaker 1: going to be that way in Florida.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like at this point.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on how how these races are
Speaker 1: going to are going to affect the fall, these more
Speaker 1: conservative candidates in Florida gonna affect the fall?
Speaker 3: Well, I you know, to me, there's been a total
Speaker 3: misread by so many folks in this when they described
Speaker 3: the results as left as left or progressive versus moderate.
Speaker 3: And you look at race after race and Rick, you've
Speaker 3: done enough races and I've worked with you a bunch
Speaker 3: that in the end, candidate quality and candidability to communicate,
Speaker 3: candidate and candidate passion, all those things and a candidate
Speaker 3: sense of authenticity is way, way, way more more powerful
Speaker 3: than ideology. I mean, it's it's why the progressive one
Speaker 3: in Michigan in the Senate race, he was a much
Speaker 3: better candidate, and he proves himself every day, vast candidate
Speaker 3: to be a better candidate. And in race after race,
Speaker 3: why Flannagan and Minnesota instead of winning by three or
Speaker 3: fourty one by twenty it's just it's we The media
Speaker 3: doesn't know how to talk about it, so they then
Speaker 3: they default into this most of the media defaults into
Speaker 3: this progressive versus moderate thing when in reality, it's candidate quality.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw that Wisconsin last week where where
Speaker 1: the DSA candidate just was not as good as as
Speaker 1: the guy who actually won the race. He got out,
Speaker 1: he did the work and said he could have been
Speaker 1: left right or center. With that a degree of intensity
Speaker 1: and authenticity. Man, I think he is truly.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's a very impressive candidate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, Rick, it goes to sort of
Speaker 3: what we're trying to do here at Lincoln Project is people.
Speaker 3: We're not in a moment where people want you to
Speaker 3: mince words, right, they want you to tell it to
Speaker 3: him straight and tell it to him to say, this
Speaker 3: is the deal. That's why any candidate, I mean, we
Speaker 3: could look forward to twenty twenty eight, any candidate that
Speaker 3: tries to do this, I'm going to heal the country
Speaker 3: and we shouldn't prosecute Donald Trump and we're going to
Speaker 3: bring people together. Anybody that does that I think is
Speaker 3: immediately disqualified.
Speaker 1: That that's the last place candidate in my in my assessment,
Speaker 1: no matter what, this idea that you can't have accountability
Speaker 1: just because you know, because we're nice guys.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, this is the mistake. And I you know,
Speaker 3: I thought Biden was a good president. I thought Obama
Speaker 3: was a good president. But this is the mistake they made.
Speaker 3: They they fell into this traple. I'm going to work
Speaker 3: with the Republicans and I'm going to do these things
Speaker 3: and then in the end I'll be able to get
Speaker 3: done when I what I should have gotten done. And
Speaker 3: I think they both of them missed an opportunity to
Speaker 3: address the structural problem in our country and the structural
Speaker 3: problem in the democracy. They both didn't do. They could
Speaker 3: have done certain things that would have prevented where we
Speaker 3: are today by pat you know, when they had majorities,
Speaker 3: when they hadbility to do it. But they thought, I'm
Speaker 3: going to work with the Republicans on things. And it's
Speaker 3: a mistake, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get why President Biden wanted to do
Speaker 1: the Infrastructure Bill and the Chips Act and the Recovery Act.
Speaker 1: I get why he wanted to do it, but I
Speaker 1: also feel like that did lead them to take their
Speaker 1: foot off the gas on things like January sixth, and
Speaker 1: things like the Trump classified documents prosecutions until it was
Speaker 1: way too late in the game.
Speaker 3: And who we who we put in as Attorney General.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've never met Merrick Garland. I'm sure he
Speaker 1: is a lovely man. He was not the man for
Speaker 1: that moment.
Speaker 3: No, It's like saying that there's somebody's a lovely man
Speaker 3: and they're going to go into a gladiator fight, and
Speaker 3: I was like, that guy was a really nice guy.
Speaker 1: Good guy, superb friendly guy. Well, folks, we've got a
Speaker 1: race tonight in Florida. I just want to bring this
Speaker 1: up map before we move on to the next thing.
Speaker 1: I meant to mention this a minute ago. We have
Speaker 1: a race in Florida's nineteenth Congressional district, which is sort
Speaker 1: of Cape Coral Benita Springs, part of Naples, which, folks
Speaker 1: is the in Florida. It is the hot bed of maga.
Speaker 1: It is it is the white hot center of maga
Speaker 1: in Florida. And it is a race with not one,
Speaker 1: not two, but three former Republican congressman, all who had
Speaker 1: to leave in disgrace, an insane woman and I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean she makes uh Lauren Bobert look like a
Speaker 1: Nobel Prize winning physicist, and like fifteen other people, all
Speaker 1: of whom are racing to become the craziest maga it,
Speaker 1: you know, Matthew. And the reason I bring this up is,
Speaker 1: in my mind, there's a moment unless Trump like keels
Speaker 1: over tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I really feel like.
Speaker 1: That's the future of a lot of Republican primaries weirder
Speaker 1: and weirder, more and more about the deer Leader, even
Speaker 1: after he's going to be out of office. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's a weird preview. A lot of these guys
Speaker 1: are frustrated. They want to run for something. They want
Speaker 1: to be in office, they want to get power, but
Speaker 1: they have to go through now a reality show, not
Speaker 1: just a primary.
Speaker 3: Well, I actually think you're right to sort of focus
Speaker 3: on that because I think too often we think, Okay,
Speaker 3: once Trump's gone, then everything overturned to normal, which it won't.
Speaker 3: And the Republican Party has has become it's caught the virus, right,
Speaker 3: and it's it's it's there's no antidote to it other
Speaker 3: than eliminating it, right, is eliminating it. And I think,
Speaker 3: I actually think it could get worse win the Republican
Speaker 3: Party because there's a bunch of voters that are gonna
Speaker 3: think that Donald Trump was, that Donald Trump won two
Speaker 3: elections on some of the most of their minds, three elections,
Speaker 3: but that he won these elections. And the reason why
Speaker 3: the Republicans aren't winning enough is they're not being enough
Speaker 3: like Donald Trump. There's a whole bunch of maga voters
Speaker 3: that think that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure, and and you know this
Speaker 1: is like purity checks inside of political parties rarely end
Speaker 1: well for the party's broad appeal. So, speaking of broad appeal,
Speaker 1: we've got Donald Trump's numbers are crashing, and it might
Speaker 1: be Matt called me crazy. It might be because he's
Speaker 1: now threatened to bomb Oman, one of our longest standing
Speaker 1: allies in the Gulf. He's got Jared Kushner running around
Speaker 1: saying he's got a secret deal he can't tell us about.
Speaker 2: And we're we've.
Speaker 4: Declared the hormone, the straight up hormones is a new
Speaker 4: US territory.
Speaker 2: And maybe that's something to do with these numbers.
Speaker 3: You know, you ever you ever see the movie of
Speaker 3: the Campaign with Jason Sedekas and absolutely, okay, it's really
Speaker 3: for all you all that haven't seen it, it's a
Speaker 3: really funny. See it's a very funny movie. Remember the
Speaker 3: scene in the movie where he walks in the office
Speaker 3: and Will Beryl's sitting at the and he comes up
Speaker 3: with this crazy right like, it's like, here's my campaign plant.
Speaker 3: And Jason Dakas turns and says, is that book you're
Speaker 3: reading a book of bad campaign ideas?
Speaker 2: That's what he says to me.
Speaker 3: Is that a book of bat It's as if the
Speaker 3: Republicans are reading from a book of bad ideas. They're
Speaker 3: not addressing any of the issues. They're not addressing any
Speaker 3: of the issues that people care about none, jobs, healthcare,
Speaker 3: all of those things, and actually a different foreign policy.
Speaker 3: And they keep coming up, and Donald Trump keeps coming
Speaker 3: up with this, this, these these crazy thoughts and these
Speaker 3: crazy ideas that every moment you think. I thought, you know,
Speaker 3: when we talked, we talked a few weeks ago on this,
Speaker 3: I thought, Oh, I can't get worse. It's actually gotten worse.
Speaker 3: It's got worse, and he's now they have now Donald
Speaker 3: Trump now has a seventy four percent disapproval rating among independents. Yeah,
Speaker 3: seventy four percent disapproval.
Speaker 1: Which to loop back on Florida one more time, folks,
Speaker 1: the largest group of voters in Florida are nonpartisan voters.
Speaker 1: They are in PA's they are the classic independence. They
Speaker 1: used to vote Republican about sixty percent of the time.
Speaker 1: And the polling now has flipped upside down. And you know,
Speaker 1: two to one, three to one, four to one against
Speaker 1: is not where you want to be in a state
Speaker 1: with a big pool of independent voters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would argue, and I know you've pushed this,
Speaker 3: I would argue, we shouldn't look past Florida on election
Speaker 3: night because, as we've talked before, Donald Trump's much worse
Speaker 3: position than he was in twenty eighteen, much worse position,
Speaker 3: much worse position in Florida than was in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: He had a dead even job approval rating in Florida.
Speaker 3: Now I think it's double digits negative, and it is.
Speaker 3: It's minus twenty on the economy. And that race for
Speaker 3: governor in Florida, and you remember this in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: with a rather flawed Democratic candidate lost by less than
Speaker 3: one percent of the vote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eighteen, it is.
Speaker 1: And Byron Donalds is now spent close to forty million
Speaker 1: dollars and his approval went from our disapproval stayed the same,
Speaker 1: or actually rose a little bit. But his approval was
Speaker 1: at forty when he started, and it is a forty one.
Speaker 2: Now. He better get a billion.
Speaker 1: Dollars before now in election day because that math isn't mathing.
Speaker 2: It's the kids say.
Speaker 1: So you know that that these polling numbers, as I
Speaker 1: like to sort of summarize it, America really does not
Speaker 1: like Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Yep. The magic is gone. Yep.
Speaker 1: I mean that we're we're now deep into the base number.
Speaker 1: And and you know, you see these things in Quinnipiac
Speaker 1: as you and I both known, poll solid pull, all
Speaker 1: these things that were his strengths are now completely blown out.
Speaker 3: He has not a single positive rating on any issue,
Speaker 3: any issue. And people forget that in twenty eighteen he
Speaker 3: had a plus eight on the economy. It's now minus thirty,
Speaker 3: minus thirty on the economy. He had a plus eight
Speaker 3: when he lost bad in twenty eighteen. And in this
Speaker 3: idea that Donald Trump has test don which is often
Speaker 3: called he's not tested on that when you have a
Speaker 3: thirty five percent approval rating.
Speaker 1: And you know, I keep saying to people, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like this election is interestingly sort of the
Speaker 1: weird love child of two thousand and six and twenty
Speaker 1: and eighteen. It's the two thousand and six high gas prices,
Speaker 1: inflation unpopular form where you and I both remember that
Speaker 1: great year, that was such a great year, but in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen with the widespread disconnect with the voters that
Speaker 1: that Trump had then, and he's much worse off now
Speaker 1: than he was then.
Speaker 3: He's much worse and the Republican base is much less unenthusiastic.
Speaker 3: It's when you look at the non MAGA Republicans, which
Speaker 3: are about twenty five percent of the Republican Party Republican voters.
Speaker 3: Those voters, in my view, are either going to skip
Speaker 3: high profile races or not vote.
Speaker 1: I am I am increasingly believing that because Trump's not
Speaker 1: on the ballot and the situation is so grim, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't ever have to admit it that they are
Speaker 1: angry with him. They probably never will, but the reality
Speaker 1: is they're going to show it, I think.
Speaker 2: By not coming out to vote.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly that's going to be a bigger you know,
Speaker 1: the Democrats smartly, they're now doing the sort of like
Speaker 1: modesty thing. We're going to fight hard for the Senate.
Speaker 1: We think we'll get eighteen House seats. I think now
Speaker 1: they're starting to put the brakes on. Some people don't
Speaker 1: get over confident, but there's no world where Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is a net advantage to a lot of these candidates.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think Ken Paxson's going to bring
Speaker 1: Donald Trump to Texas?
Speaker 3: Do you think they're going to be the Senate the
Speaker 3: Republican senator is going to bring Donald Trump to Alaska?
Speaker 3: Do you think that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And do you think she the woman in Iowa's going
Speaker 3: to bring him to Iowa? I mean, none of these,
Speaker 3: none of these. The only people that will are the
Speaker 3: people that I think are in They're no longer swing races.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think what's happened in the last sixty
Speaker 3: days is races that we thought were swinging are no
Speaker 3: longer swing, right.
Speaker 1: Like he'll show up in South Carolina. He's not going
Speaker 1: to show up in Florida.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 2: And and and I think that.
Speaker 1: That that is one more thing, one more chip in
Speaker 1: the Trump control of the party. The primaries are over,
Speaker 1: and now his presence in their lives is a net negative.
Speaker 3: And then some Yeah, that's a really good point people
Speaker 3: should make because Donald Trump has never helped somebody get
Speaker 3: across the general election line. He's never helped a single
Speaker 3: candidate get across the general election.
Speaker 1: I mean, and this was before your time at LP,
Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty one, when we were helping us
Speaker 1: Off and Reverend Warnock in Georgia, Trump, every time Trump
Speaker 1: showed up, our trackers showed another dip for the Republicans.
Speaker 1: Every single time he made a speech or tweeted about it.
Speaker 1: You could almost measure it. It was a short porch race,
Speaker 1: but we were tracking almost from the very first day
Speaker 1: and It was just disastrous because he would keep saying things.
Speaker 2: Like other the election was rigged and it's still rigged.
Speaker 2: Don't vote no sure thing, Donald, you keep that up.
Speaker 1: Speaking of future Republican campaigns, you and I have both
Speaker 1: done our penance in the great state of Iowa. Yes,
Speaker 1: and Pete Hexseth is headed out there this weekend to campaign.
Speaker 1: It is widely being interpreted as pet except once to
Speaker 1: run for president.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get how any Republican candidate would be
Speaker 3: feel good about him showing up. I don't like him
Speaker 3: showing up in a state. And maybe he you know,
Speaker 3: the level of delusion in Maga world is high.
Speaker 2: As you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean maybe he thinks that because he's
Speaker 3: you know, the crazy stuff he does. He's he's crazier
Speaker 3: than everybody else and therefore gives him an opportunity in this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't get it. He's only going to
Speaker 3: hurt the local candidates.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh yeah, don't. I don't see any world
Speaker 2: where that is.
Speaker 3: That is a especially in the midst of the Randa buckle.
Speaker 3: He's going to go out there as Secretary of devents,
Speaker 3: in the midst of the random.
Speaker 1: We've got We've got people starving on an aircraft carrier
Speaker 1: and in miserable conditions, and he's going to go out
Speaker 1: and start a presidential flirtation at the least.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but you read the room, Pete.
Speaker 1: Yes, So speaking of of Heck said, I wanted to
Speaker 1: bring up the South Korea situation because Trump's affection for
Speaker 1: dictators is widely known, and this week it manifested itself
Speaker 1: as America jumping into be looks like more part of
Speaker 1: the axis of evil than ever before.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you look at that and then you
Speaker 3: look at it. I don't know if it says it
Speaker 3: in this tweet or not, but he said it online
Speaker 3: when he basically said South Korea and Australia and Japan
Speaker 3: they didn't support me in the Iran deal, which actually
Speaker 3: my view is of the intelligence test and they passed
Speaker 3: it in this. In this case, he's if he's like
Speaker 3: a jilted boyfriend or something like, they didn't do this,
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna protect anybody. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's such a bizarre approach to the world.
Speaker 1: It's such a and you know, we've all heard the
Speaker 1: self the sort of self the protection racket speech.
Speaker 2: That's a nice country you have. There'd be a shame
Speaker 2: if there was a fire.
Speaker 4: Maybe you should pay me some protection money.
Speaker 2: We've heard that in a lot of times.
Speaker 1: But I mean the entire predicate of the Republican Party's
Speaker 1: national security argument right now is Iran and China are
Speaker 1: the two most important things in the world. So he's
Speaker 1: attacking our allies in the Gulf region like Oman, and
Speaker 1: he's attacking our ally in South Korea, which is a
Speaker 1: central lynchpin in the Indo Pacific strategy against China's expansion.
Speaker 1: I I mean, there's a part of me now that
Speaker 1: is is you know, I hesitate to be to diagnose
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, but I don't know if Grandpa is really
Speaker 1: clear on who's who anymore on the map, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to stretch this line too far.
Speaker 3: But you know, the only the only beneficiary of this
Speaker 3: is is dictators overseas, but more importantly, our oligarchs. If
Speaker 3: you think about a world that no longer has a
Speaker 3: unified set of values, right it is the oligarchs who
Speaker 3: you know, the Elon Musks of the world, and Russian
Speaker 3: oligarchs and other oligarchs the oligarchs here. And I actually
Speaker 3: think Donald Trump deep down believes that that the world
Speaker 3: would be a better place if the wealthiest people who
Speaker 3: are disconnected from job growth and all the other things,
Speaker 3: and they don't have any idea what the average person
Speaker 3: goes through is this is a world that as they
Speaker 3: as they unfold it, it is a perfect playpin for oligarchs.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 1: You know, if you look at that, like sort of
Speaker 1: the Russian theory, which I think Trump doesn't understand but
Speaker 1: probably kind of viscerally wants.
Speaker 2: You divide the world into three chunks.
Speaker 1: Russia gets Europe, China gets Asia, Trump gets North and
Speaker 1: South America. And I mean that's simple enough for him
Speaker 1: to understand, I guess. But it really is that a
Speaker 1: world where where very very very wealthy people will be
Speaker 1: empowered beyond any any boundaries of law or democratic governance
Speaker 1: of any kind.
Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of people that would
Speaker 4: want that.
Speaker 2: They really do. Think there's ae man.
Speaker 3: I think the tech that's sort of billionaire tech bro
Speaker 3: class would just assume they're not be international law.
Speaker 1: Sure, Oh I I you know I I I know
Speaker 1: somebody who works with one of these one of the
Speaker 1: one of the bad guys in the list.
Speaker 2: Let's just say that.
Speaker 1: Who describe it to me is like, you cannot believe
Speaker 1: how petty they are when they have they're told things
Speaker 1: like they have to show a passport flying their.
Speaker 2: Jet into a country. They get so angry.
Speaker 1: Don't you know that I developed this blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: it's off, no show me your passport, jerk. So uh,
Speaker 1: I want to do one more thing on the foreign
Speaker 1: policy front. Let's play this clip of Mike Johnson, because
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's a chef's kiss.
Speaker 3: Table for the US economy who taken off like a
Speaker 3: rocket if you look at it. We were doing that
Speaker 3: the first quarter of this year, and then we got
Speaker 3: into this conflict with Iran.
Speaker 1: Now look, we got into it.
Speaker 3: We got it to it if I stepped in this
Speaker 3: puddle by mistaken my shoes.
Speaker 2: Away, we got into it.
Speaker 4: Somehow it happened to somebody else.
Speaker 3: I mean, he has become a parody of himself. The
Speaker 3: other day. I'm sure you saw it the other day
Speaker 3: when he said which I actually thought was the greatest
Speaker 3: democratic talking point, when he said, if the Democrats win,
Speaker 3: they're going to tear down everything. Donald Trump has done,
Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes we are for a start.
Speaker 1: But don't worry, Donald Trump will always have his his
Speaker 1: traveling companion Natalie Harp John Ossoff without saying anything beyond
Speaker 1: what is.
Speaker 3: Known to be Trump, he's very good. He's very he's
Speaker 3: very good.
Speaker 1: I have to say, i'm i'm. I've watched him grow
Speaker 1: in the last year as a political talent and he's
Speaker 1: getting into that very high firmament now yep of superb communicators, authenticity, heart, passion,
Speaker 1: all those things you were talking about in the beginning.
Speaker 1: And there's a reason why he's jumped up in the
Speaker 1: in the odds makers for twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Oh he's a talent man. He's a talent yea, he
Speaker 3: really is.
Speaker 1: And he's also learned that part of the talent you
Speaker 1: have to bring to the table is to poke Trump.
Speaker 3: Right now, Well, he's learned to do it, and he's
Speaker 3: done it in a he does it in a way.
Speaker 3: I mean the thing about John off Off, which you
Speaker 3: can't you can't manufacture. He can do it without coming
Speaker 3: across as a jerk, right. He does it in a
Speaker 3: way that is that pokes Donald Trump, but he comes
Speaker 3: across as it's like, I'm just gonna just tell you
Speaker 3: what it is. I don't you know, you guys decide.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's it's interesting that race. You know, Republicans,
Speaker 1: I know, I know some Republicans who a year ago
Speaker 1: were extremely optimistic about that race. And now I was
Speaker 1: told at an event over the weekend that that Tim Scott,
Speaker 1: who's doing the finances for the n R see uh,
Speaker 1: told somebody that that's done, it's cooked, it's over, forget it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I heard that I heard that same thing
Speaker 3: among a Republican group. And I also heard that they
Speaker 3: also believe the North Carolina thing is done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, North Carolina. Yeah, they they've given up on North Carolina.
Speaker 1: What I was told is their their big focus is
Speaker 1: going to be saving Susan Collins. That's that's that's where
Speaker 1: they think they can still have a fighting chance.
Speaker 3: Which ought to tell us, which ought to tell all
Speaker 3: of us about who Susan Collins.
Speaker 1: Is correct, That is, yes, thank you, Matthew, exactly right.
Speaker 1: If they're going to run to her defense, they're not
Speaker 1: going to help Ken Paxton. They're not going to help
Speaker 1: Collins or Georgia Collins. They're not gonna help Wattley. They're
Speaker 1: they've decided Susan Collins is just fine with them.
Speaker 3: Is a needed vote for them. That's what it tells
Speaker 3: you everything you need to know about Susan Collen.
Speaker 2: That is exactly right.
Speaker 1: But also have triggered the Trump people this week in
Speaker 1: a way that I've just loved so much, because he
Speaker 1: said that Trump wants to build his ballroom and travel
Speaker 1: with Natalie. He didn't say anything beyond that, but my lord,
Speaker 1: the the maga flipout about this has been. These are people,
Speaker 1: by the way, that that say that their enemies run
Speaker 1: a They used to say that Hillary Clinton murdered US
Speaker 1: soldiers and ran a cannibal pedophile ring in a pizza
Speaker 1: restaurant in DC. But you can't say that Trump likes
Speaker 1: to travel with Natalie Hart. And their reaction is it's
Speaker 1: been a big tell.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a huge It's a huge, a huge tell
Speaker 3: in this. I actually think we do we should do
Speaker 3: a we should do a series travels with Natalie or something.
Speaker 2: Because.
Speaker 3: Really, I mean the whole I mean, and talk about
Speaker 3: somebody and you've I'm sure watched her and all that,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if we have a clip of
Speaker 3: her talking in this, in this, but she's another she's
Speaker 3: an other whack a doodle.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, you know, as somebody texted me this morning,
Speaker 1: that's that woman's gonna boil rabbits if she's kept away
Speaker 1: from the president.
Speaker 3: Oh what's her name in South Carolina? You know what's
Speaker 3: her name?
Speaker 2: Oh Nancy Mace.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh yeah, Nancy Mayce like post a
Speaker 1: picture of herself with all these new tattoos, with her
Speaker 1: with her with her shirt or with a tank top on,
Speaker 1: and she's suddenly like, why are you talking about my tattoos?
Speaker 1: Why are you because you're showing them to us because
Speaker 1: they're in our face.
Speaker 2: Ma'am.
Speaker 1: Let's play that Natalie Harp clip from twenty twenty two.
Speaker 5: We can't talk about winning back the House and Senate
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two and the White House in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four if we don't act on the fact that
Speaker 5: we actually did win the White House and the Senate
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty. We shouldn't be afraid to say that
Speaker 5: because it's true.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Pardon me, but my lord, I mean that level of
Speaker 1: delusion is one of two are one of two things.
Speaker 1: She's either that cuckoo or she's that attuned to what
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's psychology needed from her.
Speaker 3: I mean, I uh, we're both okay. I was just
Speaker 3: gonna say, camp killy, go with both.
Speaker 2: The then diagram can overlap.
Speaker 3: Because if if a person is that attuned to Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: there is some evidence that that's cuckoo.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my lord, Well, folks, We've got a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff gonna pop tonight.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a big night tonight. And I want
Speaker 2: to thank everybody. Uh.
Speaker 1: I wrote a big piece about Flock today because I
Speaker 1: really view flock as a real threat to our national security.
Speaker 3: Agree with you Rick on this.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you Matthew, because you know, I started
Speaker 1: digging into it, and Flock is the tip of the
Speaker 1: spear of a big infrastructure that's coming together that that
Speaker 1: I think is should should scare the hell out of Americans.
Speaker 1: And I'm actually gonna make that article on the Free
Speaker 1: in the next few minutes. I had a sponsor subscriber
Speaker 1: donate to the to the sub sect and asked me
Speaker 1: to make it public.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that in a few minutes. But we're
Speaker 2: gonna be, uh, We're gonna be.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be following the news tonight, and folks, Renee
Speaker 1: and I are going to be doing one of our
Speaker 1: little cocktail and live streams tonight on over It against
Speaker 1: all Enemies after eight o'clock when the poll results close.
Speaker 2: In the great state of Florida. Matt, thanks for coming
Speaker 2: on tonight, brother.
Speaker 3: Oh great, It's always great to be with you.
Speaker 2: Rick. Likewise, my friend, I'm looking.
Speaker 3: Forward to the next seventy days.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a good time. Yeah, we're gonna We're
Speaker 1: gonna cost some trouble, folks,