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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>of time to do it, and Lord knows we need it,

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<v Speaker 1>so glad you're here at three or three seven, one,

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<v Speaker 1>three eight, two, five five the number you can text

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<v Speaker 1>d an five seven seventh, three nine. Got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of good stuff going on today. The usual life and

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<v Speaker 1>death and deep dive Alliance Defending Freedom joined us at

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<v Speaker 1>four thirty six. You might want to pick that off

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<v Speaker 1>the pod if you didn't hear it. Hel framped and

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<v Speaker 1>no relation was with us. He's lead attorney on this

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<v Speaker 1>very important lawsuit, Winter Winter Chicken Dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's sue the state of Colorado for the.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously unconstitutional HB thirteen twelve, which is now law in

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<v Speaker 1>your home state if you happen to live here. So

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<v Speaker 1>most businesses at this point our subject to being prosecuted

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<v Speaker 1>by the Civil Rights Division if they tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you've got a man standing there and you

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<v Speaker 2>refer to him as a man or you do it

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<v Speaker 2>and you're advertising.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, you're in violation of Colorado law. So yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to win. The question is how quickly. And

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<v Speaker 1>again the process is punishment, right, that's what the left does.

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<v Speaker 1>This law will cause a lot of people to self censor,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people to just be afraid of the fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'll punish as much as they can the

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<v Speaker 1>brave people who stand up and fight him, until those

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<v Speaker 1>brave people eventually win, which they will. So we did

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<v Speaker 1>that deep dive at four thirty six and love to

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<v Speaker 1>get your take on that. We've now kind of open

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<v Speaker 1>it up to poetry. We're looking for people who can

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<v Speaker 1>make a great political statement in a poetic way and

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<v Speaker 1>so really anxious to see what you can come up

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<v Speaker 1>with there. That's been kind of fun. We've got some

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<v Speaker 1>fun sounded the day as well. Ryan at Scott Jennings

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<v Speaker 1>on his show earlier today, Ryan is this great show

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<v Speaker 1>two to four in the Denver market each day.

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<v Speaker 2>Just before this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Jennings one of my favorite people in media all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Really have not met him personally, but just admire the

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<v Speaker 1>work he does. I think he's presidential material, but certain

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<v Speaker 1>will be us Senator from Kentucky if he wants it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have this list going of top ten

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<v Speaker 1>heroes in Colorado history, because as we are talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Alliance Defending Freedom about this x x X Y athletics

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<v Speaker 1>case where they're CEO willing to take on this fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and that brought you know, Jack Phillips up and Lauriat

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<v Speaker 1>three or three creative, just all these brave people we've

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<v Speaker 1>had in Colorado who've been willing to stand up to

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<v Speaker 1>the left or in other formats. It doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be politics, right, I mean, obviously start with military, police fire.

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<v Speaker 1>But this list of top ten heroes in Colorado history.

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<v Speaker 1>Would love your take on that. Of course, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to have Kendrick Castile way up near the top,

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<v Speaker 1>if not at the top. You've got Dave Sanders as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Both gave their lives to save the innocent in school

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<v Speaker 1>shootings here in Colorado. But there are lots of different

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<v Speaker 1>heroes in different categories. So submit your nomination please. Do

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<v Speaker 1>we have a trophy or something? Ryan, Have we come

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<v Speaker 1>up with anything there? Three or three someone three eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven seven three nine. I mean the critical mistake of

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that Ryan was listening to this show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you are the octopus. I have so much cool.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going on behind the scenes here. They kind of

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<v Speaker 3>caught me off.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything you want to share, it makes you get caught

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<v Speaker 1>in class, right, mister Kaplos, Anything you want to share

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<v Speaker 1>with the class.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something Kelly did. We were talking about this earlier

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<v Speaker 3>an hour ago, and I pulled the Dan caps.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, wow, yeah, yeah yeah. Is it something you

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<v Speaker 2>can share?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, now, it's something that you're going to be tackling

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<v Speaker 4>during the breakout.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, well I look forward to tackling that. Well, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a block and tackle, got a block and tackle

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<v Speaker 1>r I want to get to some hot sound of

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<v Speaker 1>the day as well. I will get to some Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Bennett's sound. But I don't know why Ryan, because is

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<v Speaker 1>it just me? Do you have this in your show?

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<v Speaker 1>There is like no interest whatsoever in this Colorado governor's

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<v Speaker 1>race or this Colorado Senate race. I mean, none of

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats are generating any excitement. Nobody thinks the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>can win, so it's like a total non event.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Senator Bennett would be wise to hire me,

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<v Speaker 4>because it seems like when I do the impression, at

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<v Speaker 4>least that gets a reaction in some cases.

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<v Speaker 3>But other than that, when it's just him, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like paint drying.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you work for him?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean in what capacity? Like to make fun of

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<v Speaker 3>him to his face?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought would be a quick no, but maybe paid enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the impersonation you do.

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<v Speaker 4>If you could just do that, keep me humble and

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<v Speaker 4>grounded and like on my game, then I'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like, I don't know how much you're paying me?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you what you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Politics? Aside?

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<v Speaker 1>Just what a waste it would be for Colorado if

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up governor, right, because I know.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just not.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just not qualified.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he has skill sets in other areas, but

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have the skill set to be that the

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<v Speaker 1>chief executive of the state, to lead the state, to

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<v Speaker 1>be governor. I mean, truly, can you think of anybody

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<v Speaker 1>police is second but not by an inch, by a mile?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you think of anybody an elective life from either

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<v Speaker 1>all these years in the Senate, et cetera. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the skills to be effective, let alone as a

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of a state.

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<v Speaker 3>Does he even really want it?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what he's kind of purposes, and that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of goes to your point of he's just there.

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<v Speaker 4>Kyle Clark made the humorous observation that he's like a cicada.

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<v Speaker 3>Comes around every thirteen years and pops up.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the ultimate damnation? I mean, wait a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's a great father, he's a great dad,

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<v Speaker 1>this and that. But when you are given when you

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<v Speaker 1>are given the privilege of a US Senate seat and

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<v Speaker 1>all the opportunity to do good that comes with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand our ideology is different, right, But you're

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<v Speaker 1>given that, and then you essentially pull a weekend at

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie's for how many years, ten or fifteen years?

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<v Speaker 2>You're just a sleep at the wheel. They have to

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<v Speaker 2>literally take your pulse and you accomplish nothing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what does the guy accomplish? That's my point.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, if a lefty's going to have the office,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good thing. You don't want him accomplishing anything

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<v Speaker 1>but the state of Colorado. If you're running the state,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a different deal. Because leadership is going to be required.

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<v Speaker 1>They are going to be I'm not even getting into

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<v Speaker 1>policy opportunities yet. I'm talking about crises. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>leading the people of the state through tough times.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be required.

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<v Speaker 1>He has shown none of those skills whatsoever. Now, Wiser,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to get beat by a drum, like a

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<v Speaker 1>drum by this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be forced out of the race. He'll leave the race.

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<v Speaker 1>Hoping to get the Senate seat appointment. You know, Wiser

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<v Speaker 1>at least has accomplished some things. I mean, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at his life and I think Wiser would be a

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<v Speaker 1>lousy governor. But more over ideology, because Wiser is accomplished

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<v Speaker 1>some things. He worked hard. He became a US Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court clerk, which is very hard to get. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>He's accomplished some things in office. No, I don't agree

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<v Speaker 1>with the things he's done in office. But Bennett is

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<v Speaker 1>just I'd say a bump on a log, but it

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<v Speaker 1>would be defamatory of every bump on a log out there.

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<v Speaker 4>And that just goes to where's the drive, where's the passion,

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<v Speaker 4>where's the fun himself?

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<v Speaker 3>But for himself, that's the drive.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, But can you know the same about Polis right

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<v Speaker 4>that he self aggrandizing, well, self indulgent.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen it, hey, listen to any of us in media,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in politics. Right, these are people, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>strong egos, they like attention, et cetera. So I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>going to criticize somebody for that. But what you would

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<v Speaker 1>say with a Polish or a Bennett whatever, is there

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<v Speaker 1>something more? Are they about something bigger than themselves? And

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<v Speaker 1>do they have the skills to accomplish it? And when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Bennett, it can be nothing other than

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<v Speaker 1>a resounding no. And then you match that right with

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate arrogance, the ultimate entitlement, unearned by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and where he's going to come in and say, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my Senate seat, this is my Senate seat, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to decide who fills it next. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate seat goes virtually ignored while he's here running for governor.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just the ultimate arrogance.

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<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is he is one of the last

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<v Speaker 1>people on the face of the earth who should be

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<v Speaker 4>And not that he would get it, but it's the

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<v Speaker 4>only explanation that makes sense as to why Phil Wiser,

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<v Speaker 4>the primary opponent of Michael Bennett in the race on

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<v Speaker 4>the Democratic side, wouldn't have just hammered Bennett over holding

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<v Speaker 4>onto that Senate seat while also trying to run for governor.

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<v Speaker 3>If he really wanted to be governor, Phil Wiser, he would.

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<v Speaker 4>Have taken that political opportunity and seized upon it.

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<v Speaker 3>But instead, the only thing that makes sense is what

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<v Speaker 3>you said. He's going to stay quiet and he'll take.

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<v Speaker 4>The Senate appointment from Bennett when Bennett wins the governor's race.

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<v Speaker 3>That's lame.

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<v Speaker 1>No, what's going on now, I believe right I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have subpoena power. I can't prove it, but what I've

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<v Speaker 1>believes going on is that Wiser is attempting to stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the race long enough and build enough of a

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<v Speaker 1>credible threat to Bennett that Wiser gets the Senate seat

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<v Speaker 1>for getting out of the race. That's what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is going on right now. I'm not suggesting illegality. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not suggesting that he's going to end up in Blagoyevich's

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<v Speaker 1>old cell. I'm talking about just the unstated, implicit understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, Wiser doesn't have the leverage because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no reason to believe right now that Wiser could beat Bennett.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think Wiser's trying to develop the leverage to

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<v Speaker 1>be in position ay to get that Senate seat when

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<v Speaker 1>Wiser does get out of the race. That's my own theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sticking to it, and Phil can come on and

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<v Speaker 1>tell me I'm wrong. If you'd like to, like Prime says,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't hard to find. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course we should be talking about how, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible,

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<v Speaker 5>not just for gay people to get married, but for

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<v Speaker 3>Or how he would want to regulate porn or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys are so stupid. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you tell obvious whopper lies like that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Johnston doesn't want you to be able to get divorced.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff like that. All the Democrats are doing is hurting themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know there are probably folks in this audience thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats don't believe in truth, this and that. I

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<v Speaker 1>swath part, what do you think the percentage on the

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<v Speaker 1>decent swaths would be, Ryan, I'd say, depending on where

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<v Speaker 1>because I was a Democrat for a long time. Virtually

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<v Speaker 1>outside of Colorado's Democrat. And these are good people. With

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<v Speaker 1>about truth. Now they see things politically different, and I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of that is just they could never

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<v Speaker 1>imagine being a Republican. But yeah, so that they are

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for people on their own side who just

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't reached that point yet. We need to change that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so stuff like that from Buddha Jeed, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it coming. That's that's good for our side. Three

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<v Speaker 1>And by our side, I don't mean Republicans. By our side,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the people who are right about things and

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<v Speaker 1>want to save this place and the country. The country, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is in much better shape than the state

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the Democratic Party feels that way and

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<v Speaker 4>they're scared by it, except for kind of a haven

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<v Speaker 4>And this is where there's a disconnect. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a very long time.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know how you can sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>And it's nutty stuff, But yeah, you're right, they feel

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<v Speaker 1>like toorly bulletproof in Colorado. I'm looking at this headline

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<v Speaker 2>That's not going to end well for Putin.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not talking about sanctions, and I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you that he's not going to end

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States, yeah, they'll be the sanctions talk.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows, even though it should happen that in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to change Putin's behavior. But I think Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>if Trump's determined to change Putin's behavior, Trump will change

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<v Speaker 1>Putin's behavior. And it will not be with US troops

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<v Speaker 3>What haiku?

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<v Speaker 1>And even though this rhymes, I don't agree with the

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans who fight for me and you, not all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of a single Democrat right now. Maybe

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<v Speaker 6>The mocking of Donald Trump repeatedly by the Kremlin that

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<v Speaker 6>The President has talked about two weeks before he makes

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, yeah, no, this will not end well for Putin.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think Putin did this?

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<v Speaker 2>But sanctions. Everybody knows sanctions won't get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>He did that to Ihran, and he could do that

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<v Speaker 1>even begin to understand that the depths of like satanic evil, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Yet at a certain point, rationality probably departs, and he

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and it's not going to be by Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>Putin a lesson here and then hopefully bring peace.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to be talking ideology or anything, just

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<v Speaker 2>We have to end that now.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast That

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<v Speaker 3>could be awkward, very difficult. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is where you say, did.

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<v Speaker 3>You ever want to pay doctor Caplis? Was that ever

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<v Speaker 2>I am one, Come on, I am serious.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, it's not a technicality.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if you were a professor and wouldn't taught law,

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<v Speaker 1>Got order to get something out of a Whedy's box,

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<v Speaker 2>But nobody's calling me doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, except my wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we go.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all a build up to going to our

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<v Speaker 1>medical facts about babies and human development and abortion. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the best chance to persuade. And so doctor Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Prall kind enough to join us read the buyo off

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<v Speaker 1>The Colorado Sun of Inglewood, Colorado is a retired internal

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<v Speaker 1>medicine and hospital medicine physician and president of Democrats for

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<v Speaker 1>Life of Colorado. He is a Fellow of the American

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<v Speaker 1>College of Physicians and Society of Hospital Medicine, a fellow doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Dan Caplis Shall, Thanks Dan for having me, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for being here. Why don't people call lawyers doctors?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, easy answer.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like us, right, they like you, and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>likes doctor Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody likes doctor Dan, not as a doctor.

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<v Speaker 7>That yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But thanks for being here, Tom, because it has

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<v Speaker 1>been so valuable to have Catherine with us each week.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't do the normal, uh you know, ideological

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<v Speaker 1>discussions of abortion or policy issues. We just have real

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<v Speaker 1>doctors talking real medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>And so today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just going to go back to the basics and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about human development from a strictly factual medical standpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>So doctor take the floor. Just picture the auditorium filled

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<v Speaker 2>with eager medical students and tell it like it is.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. I mean, it's because the arguments that are put

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<v Speaker 7>forward by Bush advocates stress woman's choice about but only

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<v Speaker 7>appealing if you totally.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a little challenge with technology here because we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting about every other word, and they're good words, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting about every other word, can we get a

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<v Speaker 1>little better connection?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh? Can you hear me? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hey, I'd trademark that. Yeah, now that's that's better duck.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you can you start over?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? I was just saying that WASH advocates that's the

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<v Speaker 7>important woman's choice in BODI autonomy, which is appealing only

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<v Speaker 7>if you know the fact that terminating a pregnancy means

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<v Speaker 7>killing another human being, and that of a human being

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<v Speaker 7>has their own value, dignity and right to on leo autonomy.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, from a medical perspective, the abortion industry

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<v Speaker 7>frequently tries to guess light us by suggesting that nobody

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<v Speaker 7>really knows when a human life begins, you know, which

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<v Speaker 7>is really a very crazy notion, since established the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that human life begins at fertilization in the late nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 7>and so it's not a new In fact, the Human

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<v Speaker 7>Embryology book that is the standard textbook in all medical

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<v Speaker 7>schools across the country, you know in the first paragraph

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<v Speaker 7>that a new human being is formed by the unit,

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<v Speaker 7>the union of the sperm and the ovum, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>the start of human development and the human human being.

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<v Speaker 7>And it emphasize the fact that this is fal Jacobs

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<v Speaker 7>from the University of Chicago during his PhD dissertation, conducted

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<v Speaker 7>a survey of biologists over fifty five hundred who the

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<v Speaker 7>public was the most a sort of profession to make

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<v Speaker 7>established when human life begins at Ninety percent of those

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<v Speaker 7>biologists said that, you know, affirm the biological view that

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<v Speaker 7>human life begins at fertilization.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I stop you there for a second, doctor Tom Prologuess,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me stop you there for a second and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>How could anybody disagree with that? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, isn't that ideology a side? Isn't that like

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<v Speaker 1>disagreeing with the sun rising in the east? Because what

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<v Speaker 1>is that proof? I know, you know, but what is

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<v Speaker 1>that proof that human life is in fact does in

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<v Speaker 1>fact begin at fertilization? And how do we know that medically?

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<v Speaker 1>Aside from safe philosophical beliefs.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, the definition of an organism means that it's a

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<v Speaker 7>able to direct its own development and on physiology and

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<v Speaker 7>the human zygo, which is the you know, the cell

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<v Speaker 7>that results in the union of the sperm and the ovum,

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<v Speaker 7>that's exactly that it directs its own development. It's not

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<v Speaker 7>dependent on the mother to direct it. It is self

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<v Speaker 7>directing and that's the definition of an organism or human being.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, the notion that human life begins some

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<v Speaker 7>other time is really archaic notion. You know, back in

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<v Speaker 7>the you know, the Middle Ages, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 7>had quickening, which is when the mother felt that maybe

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<v Speaker 7>they assumed that's the life began. But that's because they

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<v Speaker 7>didn't have a view, right, the right of embryology. So

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it's pretty clear. And to suggest the wise.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor's so sorry, public, so sorry to interrupt, because I

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<v Speaker 1>just love of the wisdom you're dropping directing its own development, right, Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>this human life, it's dependent upon the mother for certain

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<v Speaker 1>forms of support, but it's directing its own development. And

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<v Speaker 1>that there's nobody, right, I assume within the medical community

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<v Speaker 1>who doubts that this is in fact a human organism

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<v Speaker 1>that's growing. So it's human, it's alive, it's directing its

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<v Speaker 1>own development.

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<v Speaker 2>What more do they want?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean there should I mean there should be nothing.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not a human being. That that's a bargment. But

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<v Speaker 7>people try to suggest that it being until it's born,

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<v Speaker 7>which is which is right, scientifically ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's such a key point. And again I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>sorry that we have this bad phone connection, doctor, and

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<v Speaker 1>because we are getting about every other word, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>such a key point, right, So if you're just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the medicine for the reasons that you laid out,

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<v Speaker 1>which are in arguable, then clearly, as a matter of science,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a human life. When when people want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, we're not going to call it human until

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<v Speaker 1>it's born, that's not science base.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just their own political ideology or wish or philosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>But it ain't science, right.

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<v Speaker 7>And and you know, there's some people saying that their

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<v Speaker 7>religion says it begins at birth, but again that's that's

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<v Speaker 7>not a scientific view, and it's certainly a marginal view

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<v Speaker 7>even if it's held by a religious you know established.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And the purpose of these segments is, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just start with science because I'm a firm believer

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<v Speaker 1>that that that's our best way to persuade. And doctor again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry we have this bad phone connection. But my

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<v Speaker 1>last question for you today, and I hope we have

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<v Speaker 1>you back again soon, is I know you've been a

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<v Speaker 1>real hero in the pro life movements, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>head of Democrats for Life, but am I right in

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<v Speaker 1>leaving that the tremendous strides that have been made by

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<v Speaker 1>the pro life movement. A big part of that has

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<v Speaker 1>been ultrasounds, because people could see for themselves that they'd

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<v Speaker 1>been lied to. When people say it's a blob of tissue,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, whoever, all the all the patients you ever had,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever went and showed their ultrasound picture and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the picture of my fetus.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, that's exactly right. We now have a

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<v Speaker 7>window into the life of the embryo and fetus. But

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<v Speaker 7>by the time a woman even recognizes she's pregnant, the

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<v Speaker 7>brain and heart are already developing. And you know, by

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<v Speaker 7>the sixth week, the heart is being as moving by

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<v Speaker 7>the nine fetus is ye preferences by swallowing the amnatic fluid.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it even develops acoustical memories in utero. So

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<v Speaker 7>this is a very sophisticated human being.

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<v Speaker 1>And the doctor thank you for all of that. I

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<v Speaker 1>am so sorry we have this bad phone connection, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll look forward to having you back soon. Doctor Tomprell

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<v Speaker 1>also writes in The Colorado Sun, you're on the Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Kapler Show.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast Okay, summarizes

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<v Speaker 3>what we experienced over the two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, all that, I would say, time of our lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right now, right here, right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Sad to think about, but yeah, no lives. But what

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<v Speaker 1>a great song. That is just a great song. Some

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<v Speaker 1>songs instantly create good feeling. That is a great song.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta imagine it's from one of Amy's all time

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<v Speaker 4>favorite movies. I'm just guessing here, total lark shot in

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<v Speaker 4>the dark type thing. What movie dirty dancing?

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<v Speaker 2>H I'll ask her. I bet she is a great dancer.

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<v Speaker 2>I will ask her that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm betting again a fan of Swayze, I will

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<v Speaker 4>ask you that is what Patrick swayzey, I will ask

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<v Speaker 4>you that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see the resemblance Dansey, Yeah, I could see

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<v Speaker 1>that absolutely. But yeah, no, what a great dancer and

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<v Speaker 1>that that was probably one of the biggest challenges in

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<v Speaker 1>our relationship because you know, not to be self serving,

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<v Speaker 1>but I consider myself a really good athlete, real good rhythm,

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<v Speaker 1>all this and that. But the whole dancing thing, not

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<v Speaker 1>my sing, just like getting out in public and dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's a great dancer.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're dating or you know, we're newlyweds, we go

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<v Speaker 1>to these charity things, we're dancing. Everybody's watching her because

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<v Speaker 1>she's beautiful and a great dancer, and if they're watching her,

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<v Speaker 1>it means they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing me, and that ain't good.

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<v Speaker 4>But didn't you work very hard for your wedding reception

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<v Speaker 4>to be months?

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<v Speaker 3>Yea months?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know how deep into the first dance

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<v Speaker 1>I messed it up? First step it had to be. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a great text.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Brigadier General Maurice Rose was a Colorado Jewish Man killed

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<v Speaker 1>in direct contact with the Germans and World War Two

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<v Speaker 1>when his jeep ran into a German tank and he

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<v Speaker 1>was shot and killed by the Germans. Rose hospital, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll double check that where our kids were born. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just talking about top ten Colorado heroes and taking

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<v Speaker 1>some nominations. Not that we get to decide anything, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun to talk about, inspiring to talk about. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Kendrick Castillo, Dave Sanders, Jack Phillips. It

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<v Speaker 1>came up in connection with another brave Colorado, another brave

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<v Speaker 1>person standing up the CEO of xaxx Y Athletics Alliance

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<v Speaker 1>Defending Freedom standing up against the obviously facially unconstitutional hospital

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen twelve, and that lawsuit was just filed. So we

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<v Speaker 1>had Hal Frampton the attorney on the show. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Say on our show before, founder and CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>xaxx y Levi.

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<v Speaker 2>What didn't she used to be president? She used to

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<v Speaker 2>be president of.

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<v Speaker 3>Strauss Levi, Straussen Francisco President.

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<v Speaker 4>Then she spoke out against the COVID lockdowns for kids

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<v Speaker 4>and that led to a downward spiral that contributed to

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<v Speaker 4>her exodus from there. And then she moved her her operations,

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<v Speaker 4>her idea for XXXY Athletics right here to Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm just looking at Maurice Rose right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Career officer United States Army turned the attained the rank

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<v Speaker 1>of major general, veteran of World War One and two,

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<v Speaker 1>commanding the third Armored Division when he was killed in

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<v Speaker 1>action in Germany during the closing days of the Second

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<v Speaker 1>World War, becoming the highest ranking American killed by enemy

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<v Speaker 1>fire during the war in Europe and died this very

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<v Speaker 1>heroic death. Yeah, now, very inspiring.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So who are the top ten heroes in Colorado? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it can come from all walks alive.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody I think had suggested an earlier text when we

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<v Speaker 4>had this conversation, Kit Carson would be one, k K.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, I'm just not sure the Coatail. Sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm kind of a wild West guy and

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<v Speaker 4>I admire a lot of those guys from back then. Yeah, wider,

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<v Speaker 4>Doc Holliday's buried here in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and yeah, yeah, I just I'm not up

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<v Speaker 1>on all that. So you are the resident expert than that,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. I did want to get to this sound

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<v Speaker 1>before the end of the show. Let me get to

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<v Speaker 1>this because it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so rich.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is Jake Teppero, I assume is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>running for the GOP nomination for something.

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<v Speaker 8>I look at the way I covered, you know, the president,

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<v Speaker 8>some of the trials of the President, I thought were

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<v Speaker 8>you know, I think it's I think it is problematic

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<v Speaker 8>when people run for prosecutor and promise to go after

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<v Speaker 8>a specific politician. And both Letitia James, Attorney General of

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<v Speaker 8>New York, and Alvin Bragg, the District Attorney New York,

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<v Speaker 8>both of them did that, and that to me is

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<v Speaker 8>problematic because you're not saying this is the offense, and

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<v Speaker 8>we need to bring justice to this perpetrator. You're saying,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm going to go after him. And I think that

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<v Speaker 8>there was a degree to which that was tolerated by

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<v Speaker 8>the media at large.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I did note it at.

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<v Speaker 8>The time, but like and in the bathroom, the same

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<v Speaker 8>thing talking to the president. So it's also a different degree.

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<v Speaker 8>People perceive it as more problematic.

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<v Speaker 3>But look at what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not talking about the underlying corrupt act of wrongfully

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing this prosecution. He's talking about how it was messaged, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said it at the time. I said it

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<v Speaker 1>at the time he did it. You know, Alvin Bragg

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<v Speaker 1>will end up being one of the biggest gifts ever

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<v Speaker 1>to the GOP, and and I'll be roundly despised on

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<v Speaker 1>the left because you just knew, you just knew that

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<v Speaker 1>corrupt prosecution was going to backfire him and help Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And because of Trump's strength and courage, it did, and

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<v Speaker 1>the wisdom of the American people have voted for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Ryan, Thank you Kelly Jonas. To morrow, Pleas
