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Speaker 3: Oh boy, do I? Guys, I'm so excited about this episode.
Maybe the worst episode we've seen in a very long time.
This is All Stars Season five, Episode two's called the
Rivals on the Edge at start to the house party
playing beer pong number Remember beer pong?
Speaker 2: Zaki?
Speaker 3: Did you ever play beer pong? Was that a part
of your life?
Speaker 4: I actually refute. I got a lifetime ban from Hogs
and Heifer's in Las Vegas because I wouldn't drink during
a game of beer pong.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, yeah, you gotta drink.
Speaker 4: Yeh Well, we were told me and my my partner
are supposed to do all the drinking for us, and
he shut up hungover so that I don't want to
drink either, So he asked the owner for water and
started a huge fight with her, and then we both
got lifetime bands.
Speaker 3: Whoops. Well, if I know you played beer pong, nope,
ever once in my life.
Speaker 2: You never you know how I feel about drinking games.
Speaker 3: I guess I don't. You don't like drinking games.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's fucking stupid. If you want to drink, just
fucking drink. You don't need to turn them into some
sort of stupid game where drink if it goes into
your cup.
Speaker 3: Most of them, most of these drinking games that I
played were at your fucking apartment, dude, where were you?
Speaker 2: Guess? Guess who my roommate was, fucking idiot Bryce Bryce.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was it was Bryce's. It was Bryce's games.
Speaker 2: Huh, fucking stupid.
Speaker 3: Well, I have to play a lot of beer pong,
and it's a fun game. Uh, Devin echoes what I've
said on this show many times, which is that it's
hard to play this game and you don't really know
the rules. So episode two, we still don't really know
what the rules are. They're still kind of guessing. And
then we get some weird sort of conversations around the house.
We see Adam and Steve talking and Adam is like
doing math quizzes. But it's weird because he's quizzing Steve
as if he's confident about the answers, but Adam doesn't
know the answers either. This thing is all fucking weird.
What's going on with these things?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Wonder if this was like edited, like
this happened after the challenge or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, Steve, you did terrible.
Speaker 2: We need to work on mad skills, and then.
Speaker 3: Like, oh that could be. It was real stupid And
I hate Adam. I just hate Adam. He is so
smug and smarmy. Every time that fucking guy's on the screen,
I just fucking hate this guy in the face. Yeah
he does, glad You do you really agree, Zach? I?
Speaker 4: I mean, so I'm a huge Steve fan, so I
the more Adam hates on Steve, the more I dislike Adam.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, because you're usually Devil's advocate with liking people
everybody else hates. Adam is insufferable. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I liked his return last season, but yeah, once he
turned against Steve, I'm kind of like, I am over you.
Speaker 3: Sit and spin bitch.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand, Like, let me throw Steve in
like four times this entire season and then be like,
why did he take my star? I need an explanation?
Looks like, what do you think, douchebag?
Speaker 3: Because he's a self important, entitled, smug, fucking prick. He's
just a prick. That's all there is doing.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 3: Guy's just a prick. All right. So we see big T, Corey,
Amber and Ashley. They're all chatting. Amber is talking about
her falling out with FESSI and she's here for her daughter. Yeah, yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 4: Usually you like it when they're there for the kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I am Amber. I don't know. Clearly Fries
didn't do it for me for some reason. Okay, Beth
and her jeans? What anyways? What do we think about
best thirty year old pairs of jeans?
Speaker 2: Fine?
Speaker 4: I mean I kind of agree with them that. Like
I was trying to think, like do I own anything
this thirty years old clothes wies.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, guys, what is the
oldest pair of pants that you think you own?
Speaker 4: Pants? Probably like five years do I own?
Speaker 2: I might have some that are coming up, maybe within
the ten year mark, but they're not pants that I wear.
It's just pants that I was like I used to
wear now either got too fat or too skinny for
and then I put in a drawer and just have
never cleaned that drawer out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I have a bunch of shirts like sitting
in a tupperware container under my bed that are like
from twenty years agother too small for me, but I
keep on myself. One day I'll wear them again, pulling
out hope.
Speaker 3: Is that good for you? Hold that hope?
Speaker 2: I have just sentimental shirts from like high school that
I've held on too, But that's about it. No, I
think everywhere they were supposed to be turned into a
T shirt quilled by somebody who used to be a
co host on the show man I dropped the ball
and did not do it.
Speaker 3: Maybe she still would text her.
Speaker 2: And ask she'd purposely sew them inside out.
Speaker 3: Hey, Amana, remember me? I was like Zach, I think
five years is low. I swear I've got pants that
are ten years old. I bet I do thirty years.
I don't have a thirty year old pair of pants,
but mine will be. Mine are like work pants and
like wedding pants, and like the fancy pants that I
don't wear like fucking ever. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You just like.
Speaker 3: This is the worst ones to keep, yeah, because it's like,
you know, I wear them twice a year, so it's
it feels weird to replace them often even that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I even know, outside of like pajama pants or jeans,
when the last time I wore like nice pants.
Speaker 3: It's like weddings and yeah, I just was in New
York City last week, so about once a year for
three days I have to wear like nice dress pants.
Speaker 2: Because even like my family, when we have like funerals
and stuff, everybody's always like, oh, yeah, don't dress up,
just wear jeans. I'm like, oh, all right, I'm not
going to complain. Casual people, we don't dress up for stuff.
Speaker 4: On the outside, I probably wear jeans like once every
year or two. Unusually I wear their shorts or slacks.
Speaker 2: Yep. They'll do it. Have work conferences, like tim I have.
Speaker 3: To fly to Oh, well, you're lucky, David says what
I was gonna say, which credit to Beth for being
able to fit into thirty old pants and by the way,
looking pretty good in those thirty old paints. Like that
woman's a total crazy, crazy person in the bitch, but
looking good for age.
Speaker 2: But then c Nicole to come ruin. Everybody's afraid though
your use old paints. Well you went thirty old paints.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's obnoxious. While she's screaming like a maniac. Melissa's
in bed, just sort of rolling her eyes at her
going crazy.
Speaker 2: So what are you doing?
Speaker 3: All right? And with that we're one of the challenge.
Uh jeez, Margo's got something going on. What's wrong with Margot?
Speaker 2: Saw a leaf fly through the yard out the front windows.
Speaker 3: I gotta deal with that.
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: They're on an elevator ride up, reminiscing of our elevator
ride up to the top of the h Sears Tower. Wolfe,
don't get it twisted.
Speaker 2: Nobody taking that ship from us.
Speaker 3: Leroy talks about taking muddy dumps, which was great. I
love hearing Leroy talk about taking ship. That was fun.
Your buddy lera yep, close personal friend, hairstylist. That's right,
not sexually. I just want to make that clear. I was.
I was a full adult when he h.
Speaker 4: You know, I actually really enjoyed this idor thought of
it before. Like we see these challenges up on the
roof and I always think about that, but I never
think about like the anticipation of having to get up there,
and like just that dread of knowing how high you're going.
Speaker 3: This challenge in particular, everybody was scared and not afraid
at all to talk about how scared they were. It
was kind of.
Speaker 2: Interesting, especially if you've got our giant pussy cast like
you do this season.
Speaker 3: Gee, no ship. So before we get to the actual challenge,
that has to tell a little bit more about the rules,
and I think we could guess them right. This is
similar to other All Stars, which is one player is
the house vote that goes into elimination. One player is
chosen by the winner of that elimination. You have to
have a start again to the final if you win
your stars state. If you want a star, you can
challenge somebody to elimination if you win that thing.
Speaker 2: David says, an entire cast of pussy chickens.
Speaker 4: Yes, but I was gonna say we were just bashing
on Adam. But the one thing I did I enjoyed
was quoting Turbot with the pussy chickens.
Speaker 3: I didn't like that, Aye, because he didn't do it right.
That's right, he fucked it up and then he looked
smug at the end of it, like he always does
that smug luck.
Speaker 2: I agree with Patty in the chat room. I hate
when there's no consequences for losing, which.
Speaker 3: I yes, yes, we've got to get into that too,
for sure. Saw that happen totally.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: This particular challenge is called Edge of Glory, and I
don't know, it's a weird. We have to solve a
math equation for some reason, I don't know why, sure,
and then after you solve the math equation, you have
to try to grab four flags using one player as
an anchor pulling on the rope. The other player kind
of reaches out and grabs as many stars as they
can grab. Yeah, and that's kind of it here. So
as we go down the list, almost nobody actually does
this fucking thing at all. Jesus Sylvia and Kelly Anne
Sylvia will not go so they're disqualified. Davon yep, Kelly
has mad. Davon does actually get one? Davon and Shane
did they went? They got one? Stared yep, full credit
for that. Anissa quits in the most fucking obnoxious, annoying
way ever. What the fuck was this?
Speaker 2: No, TJ. Not today, we'll be starting nothing.
Speaker 3: Well and trying to act like it's strategic, like, oh,
we don't need to win today. We can take it easy,
we can float along. Zach, what do you think play
Devill's advocate? Why did he needs to do this?
Speaker 4: I mean I think that she I don't think that's
complete BS, Like I could see Ashley being the type
of player to be like, let's throw a challenge so
that way we all have to like create enemies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't buy it on this one.
Speaker 4: If it was just a singles like a single challenge,
like a single person challenge, and Anissa said that I
wouldn't believe it being partner with ask and I'm like,
that sounds the type of thing Ashley would think of
and do.
Speaker 3: This seems to me like one of these Anissa, I
want to quit, but don't want to clean. I'm quitting
things so you just say something, you know. That's what
I think this was. Beth is freaking out. I like
Nicole's strategy of dealing with a freaking out Beth, where
she's just like, stop crying, you're bugging me, Just shut up,
stop doing that.
Speaker 4: You're looking weak.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's clearly not gonna work, but like
you know, nothing's gonna work, so you might as well
just say the truth. Beth is freaking out. What's up?
Do you guys buy this? Beth freak out? Does this
seem authentic to you? What's up with this?
Speaker 4: I don't know I do because I think, well, go ahead, Wolfy.
Speaker 2: No, I was gonna say she does say it's her
biggest fear, but like you said, if if it's just
a put on, I don't know. Yah.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think there's another season. I will say
I've been All Stars two or three, or maybe it's
one of the something she's in back to the mainline
in a while. But maybe there's another one where they're
up on a roof and she basically quit before she
even went. And I think in that one it was
like the person the bottom goes in. Because I married TJ.
Being like you realize that, you know, if you don't compete,
you'll go in. She's like, I'd rather take my chance
as elimination.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well yeah, pretty weeks, especially because like Anissa would
have been the anchor, Like that's the that's the that's
the least or the lesser of the scary positions to be.
You know, I don't know, I could definitely see the
being the leaner, the leaner being really scary, being the anchor.
I don't know. Like Sylvia would have been the anchor too.
I don't get her freaking out. It's like you just
got to stand there, you know, I don't.
Speaker 4: I guess you got to hold the person out this.
So does Denisa feel like she's strong enough to support
Ashley's body weight?
Speaker 3: Just let go then you don't have to fall.
Speaker 4: But no, they're tached together, so if your partner falls,
you fall with them.
Speaker 3: Oh, I guess we never saw that, Is that true?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah at the beginning, Okay, we never saw that happen.
Then huh no, all right, Then the other big thing
that happens. Adam and Steve they get three of these
things but can't get the fourth, so they both jump
to get the fourth I don't know that was cool.
Speaker 2: So they got good music to it, so they held
hands while they jumped, and then they both commented, yeah
we told them, and Louise it, Yeah.
Speaker 3: We talked about Sylvia. She freaks out, Frank freaks out.
Frank's not gonna do it either. Katie says she's not
gonna do it. Veronica pretends like she would have. I
don't think Veronica would have either. I think she felt like,
oh good, I don't have to do this.
Speaker 2: Even brings up Veronica has a reason to be afraid
of heights since Julie tried to kill her.
Speaker 3: Right, Ashley and Dario, they dq on the math problem
portion of it, but I call shenanigans on this. I
think they didn't want to do the other part, and
so they just fucked this up because they can't both
be this dumb right to not solve a math problem.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it is Dario.
Speaker 4: I believe Dario's dumb enough to mess this up. I
want to say ash is not that dumb, but I
might just be blinded by her.
Speaker 3: So yeah, she's alright, I guess. But then it starts raining, uh, sprinkling,
I guess at first, and so Amber and Festi still
get to go alongside Corey and big Ta Coran big
T quit basically and Amber Infesti fucking rocket get all
four never fell off the building. Uh did really well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's lots of like we pointed out, like someone said,
there's no consequences for losing, and this is where it
definitely showed. Were Bessie and Amber do pretty well. And
then they were like Corey big T, You're like, oh,
we're just gonna quit. We're not gonna win. So it's
the point and that's the biggest problem. Just causes people
to quit.
Speaker 3: So yep, and yeah we see this and this, uh
and this time the people that didn't get to compete
because of the rain now get the choice do you
want to compete or do you just want to not?
And they all decided not. So those people were Devin Leroy, Nanni, Turbo,
Melissa and Nicole didn't get to do this. Yeah, and
fucked up. I do totally agree there needs to be
a consequence for last place.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, look who's visiting the podcast. Look at my little boy.
Speaker 2: Ah, what's up?
Speaker 3: Lurch there he is? Uh. Yeah, so they all decided, Hey,
you know why bother. We're not going to come back
here tomorrow to do this because, as you said, well
we we're gonna lose anyway, so forget it. We're just
not gonna compete. So Festi and amberwin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it's like what they did on the
main show last year, or somebody gets a penalty or something, Yeah,
that would at least be something.
Speaker 4: But I'd be fine with as long as it doesn't
go into the final agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the final part was yeah you told me on
that was that was BS. But yeah, they got to
do something because yeah, this is bullshit. If if one
person does well, then they're just nobody's gonna play anymore.
It's ridiculous, stupid. Yeah, all right, So we're back at
the house. Frank is talking to Nicole, Ashley and Nanny
and they're kind of pussy footing around. I was like,
who are we gonna talk about? Are we gonna send him?
Frank finally just drops the name. He says, hey, Adam
and Steve, it's gotta be Adamante And we cut to
a confessional and he says basically like I want to
compete physically, but I can't because I'm tied to Saam,
and so if I'm gonna play this game, I gotta
do it strategically politically, So even though it's risky, I
gotta do this. Is this the right move? What's going
on here with with Frank?
Speaker 2: It seems a little early to go that, because I mean,
Adam and Steve are a pretty good team as we've seen,
so I mean I understand his point, like we need
to get rid of these people, but going this early
it's awfully risky.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think, Well, his point, I think is like
we have to keep the weak people because he is one.
He is one of the weak people with his teammates,
so he's I think that's that's his point, right, is
if we're if I'm gonna win this game, I have
to have I have to have weak people in the
final eliminations, have to be strong people.
Speaker 4: Every time we saw last week when Adam and Steve
finished that challenge first to get their star, there's quite
a few people talked about like, oh, they're hugehow we
need to get rid of them. So I don't think
Frank needed to put his neck on the line this week.
I think that was already in people's head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's just like it's the very first elimination,
so it's like, wow, I'm going to take this shot already,
because as we see, Adam and Steve, Eve ended up
pulling it out, so now they're back in the house
and then it's like, oh, well shit, yep, you're not
gonna be friends with them.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of riffs that are caused because of people
throwing each other in this talk of Adam and Steve
being the house vote, Amber tells Veronica this. Veronica goes
and tells Adam and Steve this, Uh, but nobody puts
it together that that's how the word got back to
Adam and Steve. So we're going to this. We'll come
back and haunt everybody later.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we saw that Nichole was laying there too,
and everyone thought of Nicole still close with them. It
had to have been her that they just didn't even
consider anyone else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's interesting that even fucking dumbass Curly Fries
doesn't hasn't put this together because in their confessionals, she's
blaming Nicole who didn't do it like she did it.
I don't know she. I think she's pretty dumb. We
see Adam approaching FeSi because, as we talked about Fessei
and whoever his partner is, Curly Fries get to decide
who the other person is that's going into this elimination,
and so Adam approaches Fessei kind of trying to hope
to work out a favor, but says, I don't really
have anything to offer you except that I think it
should be Frank and Sam. He phrases it as like
take the head off the snake whatever. I think he
just thinks that he can beat them because of Sam.
What do you guys think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a mixed back because I do
think Frank's one of the better competitors there, but Sam
definitely does bring him down some.
Speaker 2: She does. And I mean, since we live in the future,
we know what the elimination was. I think that would
have been a tough one for Frank and Sam. I
have to squish into those pods together.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of these are gonna be tough
for Frank and Sam. I mean for Sam Franklin, but
we're just gonna have to see.
Speaker 4: I think if Sam gets something where it's like, you know,
wrestling in the dirt, she might feel to do. Okay,
you know, she's definitely got the size. I don't know
like how much strength she has, but I hope we
get to see that this season, see if she can
throw someone around. I'd love to see her and a
Nissa in the sand together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be something, all right. So this is where
we get a lot of the chaos of people not
really figuring out who told Adam and Steve, because even
according to their confessionals, it seems like nobody's put it
together that it was Veronica, because even like Melissa seems
to think it was Nicole, everybody really seems to think
it was Nicole, right, Is this just me? It seems
like everybody thinks it was Nicole so weird, Zach, was
that your impression too?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like everyone just you know, like Nicole
was there in the beginning and it made sense, like
apparently she's friends with Adam, so she would go tell him,
And so I think everyone just thought like, oh, well,
it makes so much sense. Why would we even consider
anyone else would do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even like even Curly Fries, even Curly Fries doesn't
put it together like, oh, how could Nicole have told somebody?
Else you told somebody else. Amber. We saw it on
TV anyway, and.
Speaker 4: We saw her talking about how much she trusts Veronica
and feels like she and Veronica have a good connection,
and so I think she's in her mind thought like, well,
Veronica wouldn't do me dirty like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ronica left the conversation and walk directly to Adam
and Steve.
Speaker 3: But just shows how unpolitically savvy Amber is, like, of
course Ronica is gonna tell me like a very weird
all right, So we're onto, uh nominations, come on, all right,
So this guy goes like, relatively predictably, it's Steve, Adam
and Steve. Everybody Adam and Steve except for.
Speaker 2: I'm a little be high in the chat room, Chris says,
I don't think Veronica knows it was Veronica.
Speaker 3: Well, and I love that nobody's fucking saying anything about
it either, because I mean, we're not, well shit, we're
there already. Nicole brings up at nominations and says like, hey, listen,
I know the rumor is going out that I told
Adam and Steve. I didn't. I didn't tell them, so
who did? And she like kind of looks around hoping
that that's gonna spur some conversations.
Speaker 2: Nobody's going to stand up and be like a.
Speaker 3: Fucking crickets man, Like nobody said anything, Like they're looking
at her like are you nuts? What are you talking about?
It's going very poorly for Nicole, and I'm loving it.
But everybody votes Adam and Steve except for a couple
of people that don't vote that way. Uh, and yeah,
that's it. Oh, Adam is just a weird though. He's
so weird. He says like, Oh, we're gonna go in
there and fight like fucking animals. Yeah, sh he's weird,
strange person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then who was it? Somebody burns their vote on
Beth and Johnny?
Speaker 3: Yes, and Nicole and Melissa burn their votes best.
Speaker 2: And Johnny Yeah, because that becomes a point later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there. I she seems to say it as
if it was to prove a point that like we
didn't tell Adam and Steve and so we're gonna vote
for somebody else to prove it, which I don't know.
That doesn't seem like that proved anything.
Speaker 4: But I don't know if is that just as much
as you know that uh the Melissa, you know, is
tight with Big Tea, so I wasn't gonna say her name,
And apparently Nicole is tight with Adam, which you know
from what they tell us.
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, and well that's it. We see
a little bit of Bessie and Amber talking about who
they're gonna nominate, but I think ultimately their conversations are
boring and stupid, so we don't get to see how
they come to the decision that they do. So with that,
we're onto elimination bit, I'm gonna smash his head and needed.
Speaker 4: Well, I will say really quick about their discussion. Is
we saw Fatty saying that's right, sorry, that's time. We
saw Fatty saying like, oh, you know, we got a
fight last time because I tried to control things. So
I'm just gonna, you know, Amber have her way. So
do we think that he did that or do we
think we he ultimately tried to control this vote of
who went in.
Speaker 3: I think he did.
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 3: I do only because later we saw Curly Fries assure
john A that it wouldn't be her, and I don't
think Curly Fries would do that if she had some
sort of power over it.
Speaker 4: It's possible yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh, well, we're at the elimination now. TJ brings down
Adam and Steve. This is where the Adam does another
fucking weird thing where he says, like us, old guys,
we don't have any left. We gotta take advantage. Woof,
he goes like all alpha and fucking it was so weird.
It was so weird what he did.
Speaker 4: It is very cringey.
Speaker 3: I agree, this guy's a fucking weirdo. Man, I don't
like him, so Festi Namber. After much deliberation, they decide
to throw on Beth and john A. Everyone seems completely
shocked about this. They can't believe it. What do you
guys think? Smart move? Dumb move? What happened here?
Speaker 2: I mean smart maybe for his game, but ideally with
a stronger team like that, you want to throw another
stronger team in so at least one of them goes home.
Speaker 3: Yep, don't take it.
Speaker 2: Take advantage of those situations when they show up.
Speaker 4: I do think, though, that I think Amanda and Festi
are going to be a strong team this season. I
do think they're one of the few people that might
have incentive to give a easy path to Adam and
Steve because if Adam and Steve go out, I feel
like Fessian Amber could be very easily near the top
of the hit list for everyone else.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe, I think though, Zach, I see what we're saying,
and I think if Fessi were playing it that way,
I would give Festi credit. I don't think Festi is
because I think Festi is stupid because when we saw
him talk to Adam, Bessie didn't come up with a
deal like that, Like he didn't seemed like he was
internalizing that. I think Fessi was just thinking, whoever I
send in, I don't want them to come back. Yeah,
And so I think he picked the weakest person that
he could, and I think he'll continue to do that
because he's not thinking about winning the final. He's he's
playing like a pussy chicken straight as bestI does.
Speaker 2: So I think it's even Adam brings up like, oh,
you called down Beth and or no, it's Frank call
down Beth and John A. No, I want Beth running
in the final, Yeah, say, like fluttering her eyelashes while
she's very very far behind me or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's I mean, this is the stuff we've
always said. Why are they taking out week teams? You
should You should go to the final with the with
the with the shitty ones if you can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just you know, it's these shows can
be like a long season. I think you find that
right time to take the shot the power players, because
if you do it the first week, then you got
the entire season that you gotta play defensive people coming
after you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Zach, if this was a better player, I
would think that this was a smart move. But this
is Fessi, who has never really done a good move
in his entire game ever. Yeah, so I give him
no credit. I think he just took the easy, chicken,
shitty pussy way out without relieve thinking about it.
Speaker 4: And you give Curly Fries no credit as well.
Speaker 3: Curly, oh of course not. Yeah, she's a champion. We
talked about she told yeah, yeah, no, no sort of
political pulse in this game, clearly.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 3: This game is called pole position. We've seen something similar
to this, at least before you have to roll the dice,
whatever color comes up on that dice, you have to
put poles through a big tube and then climb through
that tube. One of these types of things.
Speaker 4: I saw this in the season forty where Bananas and
Theo had to like go through and race to see
who could get through quicker with all the poles.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, Well, I don't know. I don't have
a lot to say here. Adam and Steve win, but
it seems close, and I don't know, I don't have
any other notes anything else to say about this.
Speaker 2: It does seem very close, which I was kind of
surprised by. But someone points out that, you know, Steve
and Adam are bigger, so it's a little harder for
them to kind of maneuver into these pods and stuff.
So I don't know, seemed close. Whether it actually was
or not, who knows. No, Steve says, I just came
on here to say this episode was really awful. How
many people actually finish the challenge?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Steve from Minneapolis? Are you Steve from the show
as well?
Speaker 3: Steve what what.
Speaker 4: Min In the chat? Steve from Minneapolis. That's the guy
that we If you just read the quote from.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I don't know Steve from Minneapolis.
Speaker 4: I think I think the show. Steve is in Chicago.
I believe, Oh is he really?
Speaker 3: I think oh you're oh, you're saying that Steve Show. Okay,
I got you, now, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Steve from Minneapolis is not the show Smiley faces.
Speaker 4: I know when I when I met Steve is that
one of the challengeming is up in Chicago, and I
think he mentioned that he like lived locally to that.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, all right, well that's it, right, Adam and Steve.
They win and they're good guys. I thought it was
really funny Beth. I don't know this is lip service
or if Beth actually does like Johnny, but it's pretty
clear Johnny not like that fucking hates Beth.
Speaker 4: That did crack me up though, when Beth's like, yeah,
you know, I'm glad we could be friends now, and
Johnny is like, we'll never be friends.
Speaker 3: I never want Yeah, I don't know if Beth is
I don't know what Beth is doing here. She's just
trying to look good on TV or she really thinks this,
or I don't know what Beth is up to here.
Speaker 4: Then as they walk out, Johnny a been like back
to California, and That's like, yeah.
Speaker 3: Give me a call, and Johnny's like okay. Every scene
you see them and it's clear Johnny is looking at
her with such like fucking contempt and disdain. Uh, and
Beth seems sort of like she doesn't even realize it's
happening anyway. That's funny.
Speaker 4: I do you know if you guys an't gonna give
like Betty credit. I don't give Beth credit. Like, I
don't think this is her trying to make good TV.
I think she really feels like her apology was enough
that it's like, Okay, everything's fikes now and now we're
gonna be besties.
Speaker 3: She's got she's got social disorders. That's how that works.
I mean, I guess we've seen her on TV. We
know she has social disorders. Yeah, we do get something
after this episode, guys. That usually ends at the elimination,
but this time we do get to go back to
the house for just a minute. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like one of the old school challenges.
They get to go home and back up and then
say goodbye to everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also get into a big screaming match.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean not the the people that are eliminated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, But yeah, So we get back to the
house and just very briefly, we see Kelly Ann and
Sylvia starting to fight Kelly Ann seems reasonable. Sylvia looks
like a fucking lunatic. If you ask me during this exchange,
what do you guys think?
Speaker 2: I agree, Sylvia goes fucking batshit and Kelly An brings
up some good points that it's like, look, you're not
gonna try, then why are we even here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I.
Speaker 2: Got shit to do? And then Sylvia is like, I
got shit to do do, I got a family, you
got dogs. Yeah, I'm just like, fuck you bitch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a bitch? What a shitty thing to say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just stupid, especially because maybe this happened after show.
But I thought I thought Kelly An had a fiance,
so it's not like she's all alone.
Speaker 3: I think she does have a fiance. Yeah, but yeah,
it's and I don't know. Sylvia is just a negative,
horrible person. She's just a nasty just a nasty person
that Sylvia.
Speaker 2: It sucks because I've worked with people that have had
this attitude before, because when you're in your early twenties
and you work in television, you got to work all
the shit shifts because you have to work all the
holidays or whatever. Yeah, I've had people tell me like, well,
you don't understand. I have a family, I shouldn't have
to work on Christmas, And I'm just like, fuck you.
My time is just as valuable, valuable as yours, So
I don't care if you got kids or not. Fuck off.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and it was just I think that Sylvia
was just lashing out because she felt like on the defensive.
You know, it was just sort of she did not
do the challenge, so she was just lashing out at
whatever she could with Kelly Anne, and kellyan was like
really calm, like like Sylvia's like, oh, you just are
so condescending, and Kelly's like, yeah, you said that you
thought that about me or something like that, and it's.
Speaker 2: Well, everybody feels that way, nobody tells you to your face.
Speaker 3: She's like, I've never heard that. I don't know, yeah, Kelly,
And just seemed like she was really trying hard to
keep it together and then didn't. It didn't didn't stay
put together.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't blame kellyan I feel like she tried.
Sylvia's just being insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, from the fandom, it seems like everybody is one
hundred exclusively on Kellyanne's side. So Zach tell us why
we should be on sylvia side.
Speaker 4: Why she'd be on Sylvia's side.
Speaker 3: Because nothing Zac's usually the devil's advocate, Guyszak's got nothing here.
Speaker 4: See i'mmer so was it? Yeah, because Sylvia is the
one that freaked out and didn't want to go. So yeah,
so you know you should be on Sylvia's side because
you know, like no one wanted to go. Like you
can get mad at her for doing what ninety eights
and the cast did, Okay.
Speaker 3: I don't think. Yeah, and I think Sylvia. If Sylvia
would have just said, like, hey, sorry, I freaked out,
it was really high. Yeah, I think I bet Kelly
would have been fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, it would be one thing if like
everyone tried it and like completed it or at least attempted.
But like when everyone pretty much quit, to be like
I'm mad at you for quitting meing like okay, so
so did everyone else, like go yell at them?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but don't you also think there's some accountability of
just like, yeah, I shouldn't have quit. I don't know,
I freaked out. I'll do I'll try it to quit again.
I don't I would say that to a teammate. I
would think, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I think so. I think I'd be like, hey, yeah, sorry,
I high turt my thing. I got scared. I'll do
better next time, you know. Like and I think I
think the fact that so many other people got scared
and quit, you're like, you know, because then I think
there's less of a there should be less of a
spotlight on you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think it turned into a big thing
because Sylvia turned it into a big thing. It didn't
have to do a big thing.
Speaker 2: Agreed Kelly Anthroads. She'll just she'll just get them kicked out.
She's like, we'll get I'll just get this at home.
Speaker 4: You know. And plus, you know Sylvia, Sylvia's time is
more important because she has kids.
Speaker 3: Fuck offsack remember when she remember she took that homework
assignment with her to one of the fucking all starts
things to yell at her step kid on video. It's like,
what the fuck are you doing right now? Why did
you take the kids' homework from him? He needed it
to study he did on the test. Yeah, are these.
Speaker 2: People who are like, I'm a stepmother. Now, you wouldn't understand, like, oh,
fuck off, you married somebody with kids.
Speaker 3: Calmed down, I have actual kids.
Speaker 2: I just hate people who kind of pull that bullshit.
I've had friends that do that. They're like, oh, you
wouldn't understand. I got I'm married with kids now, and
I'm like, you married somebody with two kids. Calm down,
your life is not so drastically changed.
Speaker 4: Calm down. And I think David in the chat makes
a good point. He says, do you think some of
the quitting teams was because they were they were more
evenly weighted teams? So both my phone for sure, I
definitely do think this is a challenge where you know,
you have someone that's trying to hold the weight of
another person. So if you have like a small, you know,
person and a much bigger, stronger person, I think that's
gonna really do well. Whereas if you're if you're both
like more on the heavy side or the light side,
you're not gonna support each other's weight. It might be like, well,
this challenge just wasn't made for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the real problem is that there's no penalty
for losing, right, So even if Bessie and Amber did
so well, nobody could beat them. We still need to
see everybody play, you know, And so it's like if
last place goes right in elimination, you know, they would
have those four teams that decided not to come back,
they would have come back if it was last team
goes into elimination, and to yeah, it's less about it's
it's more about like the last you know, punishing the
last place team. That's what we have to do, not
necessarily rewarding the winner.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I have mixed feelings because like there's
privates like, Okay, then you get rid of the weaker teams,
which makes for a better end game because everyone's super competitive.
But I also like seeing the players like Frank that
you know, say like, Okay, I'm not the strongest team,
but like, because you know, like me and Sam, losing
won't hurt us, I can find ways to work around
this and strategize around our weaknesses.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think that this is part of the
gameplay that makes it all Stars, right, because they want
it to be like anybody can win. And so if
last place does go straight into elimination, you gotta assume
Anissa or Sam is gonna be last place every single time, right, Yeah,
And so I bet that's one of the things that
the players don't want that to be a thing. So
I bet that's why they play. I bet that's why
the game plays a little different.
Speaker 4: In All Stars, especially like with Frank. You know, they
just got Frank back after like what thirteen years. I'm
saying the don't want to throw them with a partner
that they know, Like, okay, you're give me be in
every elimination now because of you know nothing of your doing.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, So they're getting better at making these games
a little more exciting but still fair, you know. So
I'm not sure we're going to see they head bangers
this season, but I don't know we'll see.
Speaker 2: Well, they also have male female teams going up against
male male teams.
Speaker 3: So yeah, And David says, with so many dqus, how
do you determine who the loser is? Well, yeah, I
don't think there would have been so many DCUs if
the loser was penalized. I think that a lot of
people were willing to be decute because who gives a ship, Like,
we're not gonna win, so who gives a shit? It's
either it's winner and everybody else, so who cares?
Speaker 2: Ye, probably would have been down to who solves the
math problem? The quickest for those that did the math
problem and then I don't know, four teams at the end,
But then they would have competed.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, they would have competed. Would and I
think even like fucking Katie would have gone out there.
If it's if it's go out there or you're going
into elimination. You know, we might have seen two or
three teams DQ, but not as many as we did.
Speaker 2: I just can't believe all these people think they're gonna
fucking die on the show. Like m TV is really
janky with their safety or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what.
Speaker 4: What if those three teams don't go out? Even if
the last place goes in, It's like, okay, well great,
there's three of us that refuse to do it. You're
gonna put all three of us in the elimination.
Speaker 2: Three way elimination, just those three your teams?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have to do something else. Yeah, I mean,
but I think Zach, here's the thing though, if two,
if two players had already been decued, that third is
gonna do it, right, the third one is gonna be like, well,
I'm gonna fucking go out there and not then like
I'm gonna get one flag I'm gonna attempt it, don't
you think I do think. I think so.
Speaker 4: If two of them are like, hen, we don't want
to come back, I'd be like, all right, we'll come back,
and then I'll just like stand there for five seconds. Yeah, okay,
I quit. I lasted five seconds longer than those people did.
Speaker 3: That's the thing. When you start penalizing the loser people
are gonna play. I bet you yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh. David says, well, if all d Q teams go
in because they suck, the one that wins elimination gets
to steal a star. No, TJ would have come up
with something. You would be like, fun, all your teams,
you're all eliminated. I like quitters on this tame.
Speaker 3: We're not producers. We can just complain, David, don't have
to all the answers. We can just complain and fucking
fucking yell at them to figure it out.
Speaker 2: Make your own show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, figure it out, guys. Other seasons have been better,
says Fair. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Ryan's disappointed that we're almost done already. David wants to know, Zach,
you got any social.
Speaker 4: Media I do well? First off, I have mentioned it
in our introductions, but uh, Turbo put out a song
this week called wind Me Dying Me, very not children friendly,
but amazing song. I've been playing on repeat on Spotify.
Did you guys listen when I sent you the link?
Speaker 3: No, of course, I've been saying of all social media, dude,
I don't click any links or doing anything anymore.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll just tell you like it's pure poetry.
The very first line is don't play with a woman's heart.
She only has one. Play with her boobs, she has two?
Speaker 3: Oh smart, Yes he should write a book, Turbo.
Speaker 4: Then don't be a pussy eat one.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wise man, why very it is.
Speaker 4: A great song. Well, the things where you listen to
the first time you're like this is so stupid, but
then you just keep listening. You're like, Okay, this is
kind of like hooking me so and then by the
other big news is uh the mental breakdown and meltdown
of Johnny Bananas. Have you guys been following this at all.
Speaker 3: A little? I don't know what's going on, to be honest,
I've I've been shut off from social media. He tweeted
a gorilla emoji and it pissed people off or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, like a couple of days ago, binanstarted like
promoting something. He's like, hey, in twenty four hours, I'm
gonna have a major announcement. And then for the next
one four hours he just kept making all these posts
about how Big Brother and Survivor were inferior to the
Challenge and like, you know, it's much harder to be
on the Challenge and win it, and these shows suck.
And of course all the CBS fans have got up
in arms, including a lot of the alumni who where like, hey,
our show is better than yours, like it's just as
hard and uh. One of the people that commented was Taylor,
who won the show a couple of years ago, first
black female winner, and she commented being like, you know,
don't don't listen, bananas. He's just like trying to rile
you guys up to get, you know, publicity, so he
could get on these other shows. You're giving him just
what he wants. And he replied to her just with
a bunch of banana emojis and then a gorilla emoji,
and people are like, oh, he used a gorilla emoji
on a black woman, like he's calling her an ape,
which he then deleted and then continue then reposted like
the next day, and then deleted again and reposted again,
and now he's like been sending that gorilla emoji to
like Tina and everyone else to be like, look, it's
not racing, I do it to everyone. But yeah. Then
his big twenty five reveal was banana coin. He has
his own crew currency now and you can buy.
Speaker 3: So, Zach, are you ready to admit that that guy's
a piece of shit?
Speaker 4: Do I think it's a piece of ship? No? Do
I think he's currently going through a mental breakdown.
Speaker 3: Yes, do you think that that's inappropriate? That ship that
he's posting?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, like, I mean he's never posted as
far as I know, Agerrilla before, and just the fact
that he started doing it, you know, first and foremost
with a black woman, it's like, what's the reasoning?
Speaker 3: Oh? Almost like feeling empowered by some racist movements that
encourage and support this behavior.
Speaker 4: Mm no, sorry, we will see. You know, we had
like was it a couple of months ago, we had
our cd CT breakdown. So it's been a stern and uh,
we'll see where it goes from here. But uh, definitely
not doing himself any favors.
Speaker 2: Banana. Banana coin is fucking sid I love nobody learned
from hawk.
Speaker 4: To a coin exactly. I love bananas. I'm not giving
a penny towards banana coin. That just seems like so
doomed to fail from the beginning.
Speaker 3: So you guys didn't buy the trump coin either?
Speaker 4: Oh no, I didn't know there was a trump coin
until a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3: Because the media is not doing a good job.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm trying not to do it, but I should.
I'm just gonna I'm I'm on the verge, guys. I'm
just gonna embrace it. I'm just gonna go for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be uh breakdowns. He's pretty legit for bananas.
Speaker 3: I agree it's racist, though it is fully fucking racist,
like of course that ship was racist. Of course it was.
And if it was trolling or joke, then he needs
to say like, hey, it was like I shouldn't have
said it, and I'm not gonna do it again. Him
doing it further is like is like, fuck off, dude,
It's just rude. It's like doing a Nazi salute and
pretending it wasn't. It's the same thing. It is. It is, sorry, Zach,
but it is. It's softening a shit that should not
be softened. We should just stand up and not accept it.
It's making excuses or pretending like that's not what it is,
or like being a little coy. Oh it's just a joke.
It's all fucking gross, and the more we do it,
the more we're gonna spin out with it, and we
need to stop it right now.
Speaker 4: My my, the part of me that Lesbon has wants
to be like maybe like he didn't realize when he
posted what it was. But if that's the case, like
he said, once pills start calling him out and be like,
oh shit, I didn't realize that that like could come
across that way. That wasn't my intention, and like apologize
and like backway from it. Don't just keep doubling down
over and over. I mean, like, look, I'm gonna post
more gorillas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope you have the same thought about Elon
and in his salute, Zach, thank you. Yeah, don't need
to talk about it anymore. But that's it.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's check in with the fantasy league. If you
go to challenge pot dot com, you can also join
our fantasy league which is going on. Still time to
sign up. Host League Stupid Zach is in the lead
with three points.
Speaker 4: That's good because I forgot to do my weekly one
this week.
Speaker 2: So Carl in San Diego in second place for one
ninety four. I've been third with one seven time Big
Big Uncle Sweet t and fourth with one seventy two.
Speaker 3: But I'm in it, guys, I'm in it. I'm in it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, how many how many people that have been
well we only lost one person or two people? Were
they on your team?
Speaker 3: Tim had I had I had Beth. Yeah, okay, I
took an interest.
Speaker 2: I had john so I.
Speaker 3: Took the interesting approach of getting all the people like
the most hated people. This season, I have all the
people you hate. It's great Betsi, Sylvia, Turbo, Dario and
Sam and Beth. I had Beth until she quit. Alright,
you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Over in the Public League, we have a new
first place winner, Kiki one more time. Kiki g is
in first, followed by the Needy Greedy coming in second.
One seventy six, and I touched Johnny Johnny's banana with
one sixty five. That's our buddy, Garrett, who will be
on next week's show.
Speaker 3: Garrett, can't wait to see you, buddy.
Speaker 2: We will finally be back at full force and we'll
have a special guest host.
Speaker 3: So better than full force.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, let's see. Was Carlin using the uh the
host's host account for hers this year.
Speaker 4: Oh no, she's not bind team.
Speaker 2: Yeah she uh well, our combined team is coming in
at number fifteen. Big Uncle Sweet Tea coming in number eighteen.
Speaker 3: I'm slow playing it, the guys, I'm slow playing it.
Speaker 2: Carl and San Diego coming in number twenty two.
Speaker 4: That's crazy because she was number one last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zachi's Angels coming in at twenty three.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, Carlyn got negative forty three points this week.
Speaker 2: And I came in at number twenty nine because I
forgot to pick a team last week according to this,
which was not true.
Speaker 4: And it's funny because Chris said in the chat that
I might have benefited by not picking a team because
of so many negative points. And I actually do think
I was like twenty fifth or twenty sixth last week's
I think I went up by not picking anyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at a negative thirteen because of Frank and Veronica
not doing the challenge.
Speaker 3: So oh, I actually did it right. Then I came
up with twenty eight points, which I thought was shitty.
But yeah, with a lot of a lot of negatives.
I'm doing all right.
Speaker 2: You're ahead of everybody else on the show. Tim, how
about that. That's very unlike me. I'm not used to that.
Carl and negatives all across the board.
Speaker 3: That's that's rough.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Carl didn't even though we could get negatives.
Speaker 3: I didn't either. I didn't expect people to not.
Speaker 2: Do the challenge.
Speaker 4: I remember last season. I can't here who it was
but someone I picked in week one got negative points.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 3: There your cat, Tim, Yeah you hear that ship cat.
This cat's ridiculous. He's so cool, he's awesome.
Speaker 2: My cat's hanging out with me too. He's very solid. Though,
did you have any more social media stuff?
Speaker 3: Sech he's freaking crying. No.
Speaker 4: I think that's about it. I guess the only other
thing potential spoiler for anyone that's behind on UH Traders.
But Wescott voted out this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeh wampomp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so dude.
Speaker 3: I tried to watch Traders a couple of weeks ago.
I put it on like in the background while I
was doing stuff around the house. I'm so lost in
that show. I can't figure out what's going on. I
watched the one I think. I think Tony got kicked
out or something. Tony was like a big part of
this one I watched. Anyway, I don't know episode two.
I think, Okay, I can't follow it. I don't know
what the point of the show is. I don't know
what I'm watching. I need to like try harder or something. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The simple thing is, yeah, there's UH. Do you ever play?
Speaker 3: Like? What's a game?
Speaker 4: Kind of like Mafia Secret Hitler where well for anty
of that.
Speaker 3: No, I got that there's some people that can lie
and there's some people that can't lie. There's like I forgot,
there's like a trader, and then there's this opposite of trader.
I forget what it is.
Speaker 2: I heard Trump. Trump is trying to play Hitler, but
he's not doing a very good secret Hitler. He's not
doing a very good job.
Speaker 3: Though, not the secret part.
Speaker 2: All Right, well, I guess that's it. I won't say
Bells has anything else they want to talking about. Nope,
all right, head over challenge pot dot Com joined the
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we'll be back. She's too busy having sex right now.
And uh, our friend Garrett will be hanging out with
using the Public League last season, so you too might
be able to hang out with us if you joined
the Public League this season. We'll see, all right. For
this episode has been Brian.
Speaker 3: Big Sweet, Team, Zachi Bananas.
Speaker 2: And as Lee Roy said, I feel like I might
poopa myself about these heights.
Speaker 3: Char the Chalie and Chalih