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Speaker 1: Digitalmusicnews dot com. Los Lobos files dual lawsuits against Sony

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Music and Sony Pictures over alleged non payment of royalties

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from films. Now, I have not pre read this, but

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when you said this to me, when you mentioned that

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there was this news about Los Lobos, my first thought

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was LaBamba. Yeah, because that's what everyone thinks of. Of course,

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when you think of Los Lobos, you think of La Bamba.

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You think of not only the song obviously LaBamba, but

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the movie about Richie Valence. Because that's how Los Lobos

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in the eighties, that's how they became famous was because

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of that song. That's I mean, I don't know if

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they really even have any other mainstream Billboard Hot one

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hundred hit songs necessarily, but that's the one everybody thinks of.

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Speaker 2: You want a quick perusal here, I'm not so sure.

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Oh yeah, no, it is in part the LaBamba soundtrack, Okay.

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But also it looks like there might have been a

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film done in Canada.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what.

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Speaker 2: There might have been another film done in Canada? Song?

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Speaker 1: Oh oh in Canada. Well, let's see again. This is

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from Digitalmusicnews dot com. Los Lobos sues Sony Music and

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Sony Pictures in two separate lawsuits alleging non payment of

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royalties for songs featured in the films LaBamba and Desperado.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Desperado with Antonio Benderas. That's a that's forgot about that.

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That's an underrated movie. That's a really good movie.

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Speaker 2: I haven't watched that in a long time.

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, that's really good.

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles band Los Lobos issuing Sony Music and Sony

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Pictures for two separate instances, alleging the company underpaid streaming

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royalties for the group's recordings used in the nineteen eighty

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seven Richievallens biopic LaBamba and the nineteen to ninety five

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Antonio Banderas Western film Desperado. According to the lawsuit, which

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the band initially filed in California state court before Sony

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filed to move in to New York federal court, Sony

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owes a combined total of at least one point five

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million dollars in contractual damages. In both instances, Los Lobos

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accuses Sony of failing to pay royalties for the streaming

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use of their recordings in these two films in any

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country outside the US, and Canada.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Specifically, the suit against Sony Music Entertainment focuses on unpaid

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royalties for the song. I don't, uh, Kencion.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm going to murder it if I

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try to say.

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Speaker 3: It, Kencion del Mariachi.

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Speaker 2: You're probably closer than I would have said.

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Speaker 1: Maybe featured in the movie Desperado. Los Lobos alleges that

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neither Sony nor its imprint Milan Records have paid any

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streaming royalties globally for the track's use Sucker, despite its

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recent surge and popularity as a war out anthem for

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Mma fighter Ilia l Mattador, Topouria.

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Speaker 2: Dopouria that explains the resurgence.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, in that instance, the band is seeking at

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least half a million dollars for alleged breach of contract

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and requests a formal accounting of damages owed.

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Speaker 3: I need to gulp of my water here.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think about those coming back for streaming, like

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when you first brought it up. I'm like, yeah, but

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this was back in the eighties, right.

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Speaker 3: The thing is too.

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Speaker 2: Now, I didn't think about the streaming aspect. Well.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, when you think about in the music industry.

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When you think about how complicated it gets in terms

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of paying royalties for publishing and all of it, performance royalties,

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mechanical royalties, everything that goes into it. Then take that

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and compound it with how complicated it gets and how

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complicated it's always gotten. You talk about soundtracks for films,

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then it gets a whole new level of complicated and

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and that seems to have reared its head here. So

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the lawsuit says, quote, despite the specific knowledge that the

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popularity of the recording was spiking and reaching new audiences,

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Sony and its affiliate imprint Milan still paid nothing nothing

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to Los Lobos for streaming and continues to pay nothing

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for streaming anywhere in the world for any time period.

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Speaker 2: Because some people lead by example. Yeah, we're just going

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to keep using it. We're gonna ignore you.

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Speaker 3: Yep. I hate that.

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Speaker 2: It's not like they they didn't give them anything, nothing

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that one dime.

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Speaker 3: That's what they claim.

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Speaker 1: Wrong.

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Speaker 2: You would have this music without the artists.

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Speaker 3: Right, says Los Lobos.

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Speaker 1: Also sued Sony Pictures and its subsidiary, Columbia Pictures for

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allegedly unpaid royalties stemy from the LaBamba soundtrack which features

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several Los Lobos covers, including Richie Vallen's LaBamba. Their version

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spent several weeks at number one on the Billboard Hot

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one hundred. I think Los Lobos did the entire soundtrack.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, I thought they did. Yeah, I

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think that's I'm I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not surprised at all by any of this. No, not

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one iota.

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Speaker 3: Nope, none of this is surprising. Nope.

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Speaker 2: And you know what also complicates a lot of this too,

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is that each individual state has its own laws as

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far as like right of succession, somebody passes away who

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owns it right. So it gets even more convoluted when

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you look at the fact that not only is it

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so grotesquely full of crazy contracts whatever federal laws, but

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each individual state laws and where it signed matters.

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Speaker 3: That is true, That is true.

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Speaker 2: It kills me. The Lobama was so long ago that

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they'd have to fight for that money.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't surprise me, though.

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Speaker 2: It kills me. I didn't say surprised, right, as if

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it kills me, it's like a classic based on the

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true story.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's just that's just so wrong. It's always the artist.

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It's always the artist that's getting ripped off by these companies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're the ones who get paid last.

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Speaker 2: Which is so wrong. They should be the ones paid first.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're they're at the end of the they're

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at the end of the food chain.

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Speaker 2: H