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<v Speaker 1>If you have small children with you right now and

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing this over the car on the YouTube, first off,

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<v Speaker 1>smash that subscribe button. Maybe you skip ahead about two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes because we're about to have a real adult conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh boy, Okay, let's have it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was speaking with my wife yesterday and she

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<v Speaker 1>said to me, how much credit do we take for

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<v Speaker 1>the gifts that we give our son for Christmas? This year?

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<v Speaker 1>My son is four years old? What do we claim

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<v Speaker 1>to be ours? What do we tell him is from Santa?

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<v Speaker 1>And I had never even thought about this. I had

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<v Speaker 1>always just assumed through my entire life that Santa gives

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<v Speaker 1>all the gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you were younger, your parents would write Santa

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<v Speaker 2>on all of them. They wouldn't write from mom Orsa.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my memory of it. And then I asked

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<v Speaker 1>my mother and I'm like, hey, what did you do

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, And she said, I would

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, guys every year that we got you some gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>Santa got you some gifts, and they got mixed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that's how most parents I remember specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>like open up stuff. Some would say Santa, some would

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<v Speaker 2>say mom, dad, whatever. But I hears. I might have

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this before. It had to have been around

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<v Speaker 2>eight or nine years old where I started picking up

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<v Speaker 2>this is a little bizarre. Why does Santa have different

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<v Speaker 2>handwriting at every house? Like, you gotta get on the

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<v Speaker 2>family's gotta get it if you're trying to get if

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<v Speaker 2>you try to keep this whole charade up, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>have one person write all the Santa stuff or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>type it out, I don't know, bust out your old

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<v Speaker 2>typewriter and make make some tags. To me, that was

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<v Speaker 2>the giveaway, Like eight or nine, I'm like, something's afoot here.

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<v Speaker 2>There might be something going on here that that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Santa is not not always chocked up to be. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's my advice to parents moreover, the deciding who, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, who gets credit for what? Figure out the

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<v Speaker 2>Santa handwriting from day one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what a little old lady should do, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've always found that little old ladies have the best handwriting, Draganana.

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<v Speaker 1>They should start a business of writing for Santa.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandmother rest her soul. The best handwriting I've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful cursive.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandmother also has beautiful cursive.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful cursive.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. You know what, the only time cursive has ever

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<v Speaker 2>helped anyone ever once on this planet planet is disguising

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<v Speaker 2>themselves as.

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<v Speaker 1>Santa little old ladies, best cursive in the world. So

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<v Speaker 1>back to this, I had this question. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do, so I asked our

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<v Speaker 1>podcasting fathers our Fagas. I asked Rich Keef and Daddy Davey,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, what do you fellas do? And I

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<v Speaker 1>believe Keith said that he would do one big gift

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<v Speaker 1>from them to their kids, and then Santa does the rest,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Davy will do if it's something that's more

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<v Speaker 1>technology based, it's from them, like something that couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>cobbled would be from them, and then toys or clothes

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<v Speaker 1>is from Santa. And I like, yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>The way I would play it is the one main

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<v Speaker 2>thing they're asking for is from the parents. Everything else

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<v Speaker 2>is from Santy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what I'm gonna do now is I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>him open all of his gifts first and then whatever

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<v Speaker 1>thing he likes the best, that's for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Gauge the audience response, right, and we like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's for me, not even mom. Mom didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give that to you. That's for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a chart it the whole time too, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>yelp on that one. That's the early leader in the clubhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>One go three, yeah, just three. King of Queen.

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<v Speaker 3>Marl Street, entertain go and I am mac oh and

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<v Speaker 3>all you parents out there, please tell me what you do,

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<v Speaker 3>because I do need some advice on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially as he gets old.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a lot of advice to hand

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<v Speaker 2>out here, think everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the best advice and the best cursive handwriting.

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<v Speaker 1>Can everyone please write us a note in cursive. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see everyone's handwriting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wonder so my younger siblings, who were

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three twenty two in nineteen, they didn't learn cursive growing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think we're the last.

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<v Speaker 2>Each of them were last American sign linggug. So I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what their signatures look like. I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen any of their signatures, because that's the only

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<v Speaker 2>way I use cursive is my signature, and even then

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<v Speaker 2>I made it my own. So there's like three letters

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<v Speaker 2>in my signature that aren't the cursive letter. I just

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<v Speaker 2>made them my own. So cursive was just completely useless,

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<v Speaker 2>completely and utterly useless.

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<v Speaker 1>First, well, it's useless.

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<v Speaker 2>Years we're teaching people fucking cursive for no goddamn reason.

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<v Speaker 1>It was useful when there was no computers.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was never useful.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us right now, was cursive ever useful? Mac? What

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<v Speaker 1>are we talking about today?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Dude? Today we are talking the latest entry into

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<v Speaker 2>the Sony Spider Man universe.

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<v Speaker 1>What the latest and last probably last?

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<v Speaker 2>There being a little coy about this whole scenario. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about craving the Hunter today. This is the sixth

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<v Speaker 2>entry into the Sony Spider Man universe. And for my

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<v Speaker 2>hopes and dreams, I hope, I hope, I hope this

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<v Speaker 2>is the final entry into the Sony Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the report that they've been able to

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<v Speaker 1>use Spider Man this entire time and they're like, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't need them.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god they didn't. Thank god they didn't. They would

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<v Speaker 2>have just butchered the whole Tom holland Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but maybe maybe you could have made these villains

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<v Speaker 1>actually villains.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing here, Goo is it's not technically dead

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<v Speaker 2>because technically Goo technically speaking here you know, officially speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>the Spider Verse movies are in this universe, yes, or

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<v Speaker 2>in this you know playground. Additionally, we do we do

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<v Speaker 2>have the Spider Noir series coming maybe next year, that

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<v Speaker 2>is also in this universe, so it's not totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Dead and fingers crossed Craven goes back in time and

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<v Speaker 1>fights him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hopefully they put this out out of its misery

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<v Speaker 2>at some point. Also, there was some Spider Verse news

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<v Speaker 2>news this past week that it's not coming out in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five. That's delayed yet again. I don't quite

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<v Speaker 2>understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's hard to animate and they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>bad reports like last time where they were like, we

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<v Speaker 1>worked our animators to the bone.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's well, okay, that's fair. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's clearly hard to animate, but it shouldn't be hard

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<v Speaker 2>enough that it's delayed two years. But I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know anything about the situation?

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<v Speaker 2>I know all of the situations, UHU, Craven, the Hunters.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a well read person who knows cursive. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I know all about the situations.

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<v Speaker 2>In its opening weekend, GOO eleven million at the domestic

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<v Speaker 2>box office, one of the worst comic book openings of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. Four million dollars less than Madam Webb. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's really really bad worldwide goo twenty six million.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you why it deserves that. This movie,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all know why. Let me tell you why.

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<v Speaker 1>The main reason why this movie is fucking lazy.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie is bad in a way that's different than

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<v Speaker 2>Madam Webb. It is also as much as Craven is

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<v Speaker 2>a great Spider Man villain, he's not like the most

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<v Speaker 2>known Spider Man villain. And on top of it, we're

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<v Speaker 2>six movies into this Sony Spider Man universe and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a Spider Man, so there's nothing holding people

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<v Speaker 2>to this universe. We just finished our third and final

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<v Speaker 2>Venom movie that's done, so there. This is like a

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<v Speaker 2>hope and a dream at the end from Sony that

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<v Speaker 2>we're like, oh, we got one last shot. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make this dark, gritty, R rated comic book movie and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully save this SSU And boy.

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<v Speaker 1>That that no, but you just said, this is our

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<v Speaker 1>sixth movie with a Spider Man villain, like a villain

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<v Speaker 1>origin story or a villain story, And yeah, Venom makes

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of sense to make him more of

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<v Speaker 1>a hero, make him an anti hero. That's what he

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<v Speaker 1>is in the comics, that's what people kind of recognize

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<v Speaker 1>him as. Now, it would make more sense if Spider

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<v Speaker 1>Man was in this universe for Venom, but for the

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<v Speaker 1>other ones, like Morbius or for Craven, they're just bad guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and in these stories they're good guys. They're the heroes

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<v Speaker 1>of their story.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're doing these villain origin stories. At some point

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<v Speaker 2>in a in a movie and a story, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to root for someone or root against someone, And so

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<v Speaker 2>they've tried to make these Spider Man outright villains into

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<v Speaker 2>anti heroes the way Venom kinda is, but these characters aren't,

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<v Speaker 2>and it simply doesn't work because, like, to be a

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<v Speaker 2>good villain, we don't really have to root for you,

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<v Speaker 2>We just have to understand where you're coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>I we just saw the fucking Penguin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, right, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>The Penguin, And like the First Joker is a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good example too, Like that's a villain origin story that

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<v Speaker 1>is setting him up and we don't love it, but

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<v Speaker 1>we understand it. Penguin, I think is perfect for you

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<v Speaker 1>telling an in universe character story of a villain that

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of rooting for but also being like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really like this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Sony just never really understood that. So not

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<v Speaker 2>only were they going up against the fact that these

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<v Speaker 2>Spider Man villains are being introduced without spy Man son

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<v Speaker 2>Spider Man, they're also oddly trying to make us root

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<v Speaker 2>for these villains in a way that no one's ever

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to root for a villain. So they just never

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<v Speaker 2>they dropped the ball from the beginning. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Venom comes out in twenty eighteen, which sort of jump

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<v Speaker 2>starts this universe, which they were planning to jump start

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<v Speaker 2>four or five years earlier after the amazing Spider Man two.

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<v Speaker 2>They're planning this since yeah, yeah, and it just never

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<v Speaker 2>came to fruition. And then we end up with with

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<v Speaker 2>with Venom four or five years later, and Venom does

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<v Speaker 2>really well. Critics hate it, but it does really well

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<v Speaker 2>with audiences, and so they're like, oh shit, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to capitalize on this this theme we've picked up here.

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<v Speaker 2>And from that point Goo like Venom. I didn't mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I somewhat enjoyed. It's not the greatest movie in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>From that point on, they never made one more good movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all bad after that, and it was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you would have thought that they're they're kicking off this

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<v Speaker 2>Sony Spider Man universe. Maybe they didn't think they were.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have thought they had this overatching plan. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's clear now that the I never had an overarching plan,

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<v Speaker 2>never had this diagram of where they're gonna go. They

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<v Speaker 2>were just like, oh, Venom did, well, now we have

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<v Speaker 2>to jumpstart other shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You could argue that these movies have gotten worse, each

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<v Speaker 1>three is better than Venom two, but I don't care. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this movie really reminds me of Morbius, and that's an

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<v Speaker 1>easy one to link to where it is. It's really bad,

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<v Speaker 1>Morbius might have some more of that because Jared Leto

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<v Speaker 1>They just slapped an R rating on it and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all like cgi blood.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think Morbius is like significantly better WOWS movie and.

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<v Speaker 1>Put that on the DVD for Morbius significantly better than Craven.

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<v Speaker 2>What you were saying about this movie, you know, before

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<v Speaker 2>feel about Marius. It's lazy, There's really not much there.

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<v Speaker 1>Morbi This movie's really bad, but I had no fun

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<v Speaker 1>usually some fun stuff in there. This one did have

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<v Speaker 1>like one or two lines that were borderline there. But

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, come on, Craven. The Hunter is an

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<v Speaker 2>R rated action in thriller subgenre. Here, goo, we get

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<v Speaker 1>I would also say for the genre of superhero this

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<v Speaker 1>is the worst kind of superhero movie. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean in the fact that it came out in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four and you could watch it and say this

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<v Speaker 1>came out in two thousand and six, like there's no

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<v Speaker 1>progress from the last twenty years of I'll say filmmaking.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to, you know, use that literally, but

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<v Speaker 1>like from the last twenty years of movies that we

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<v Speaker 1>where you have a blueprint, this is the laziest, just

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<v Speaker 1>joyless piece of garbage that you could possibly watch, where

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to it. And the last twenty minutes, Am

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<v Speaker 1>I wrong? It felt like twenty minutes. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>I So I think what you're saying sort of encapsulates

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<v Speaker 2>this whole universe, even going back to Venom, which I

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<v Speaker 2>liked more than most, this whole Sony Foray into comic

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<v Speaker 2>book movies, these last six you could say they all

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<v Speaker 2>came out in two thousand and six and people would

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<v Speaker 2>believe you. And in two thousand and six, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know if people would like them, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's how bad this universe ended up being.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it compared to the Fantastic four? How does

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, it's in that it's in that same saying.

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<v Speaker 1>The cgi in this the animals all looked like trash.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a superhero. I'm gonna call him a hero

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<v Speaker 1>because he's a hero in this fucking nature boy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>Aquaman on land? Who this The animals are so disturbingly

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<v Speaker 1>awful looking. Where did the money go?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude? Can you explain to me and we'll I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I wasn't even that mad about this

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<v Speaker 1>movie talking about it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's true. Yeah, can you explain to me why

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<v Speaker 2>he gets mauled by a lion at one point in

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<v Speaker 1>It's because his father told him he's not the man.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude. This movie's one hundred and twenty seven minutes. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels like three hours. I started you texting, started texting

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<v Speaker 2>you about an hour and I considered leaving during this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>Obligated by contract, you have to finish the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that's how bad this movie is on Rotten

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<v Speaker 2>Tomatoes fifteen percent from the critics, seventy three percent from

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<v Speaker 2>the audience. Now to talking, compared against the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>The Sony Spider Man Universe, second worst critic rating, third

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<v Speaker 2>worst audience rating. To be fair, they all didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>well outside of the Venom Movie audience wise. None of

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<v Speaker 2>them did well critic wise on Metacritic, A thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>tied for second worse. The only one worse is Madam Webb.

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<v Speaker 2>This just again, like the critics hated This Sony Spider

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<v Speaker 2>Man Universe, the audience was okay with a lot of it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I guess the audience is easy to please

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<v Speaker 2>these days. This movie is written by three people, Richard

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<v Speaker 2>Wank and then a writing team of Art Markham and

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Holloway. Richard Wank is a writer on the Mechanic

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<v Speaker 2>Expendables to the Equalizer Magnificent seven, Jack Reacher, Never Go Back,

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<v Speaker 2>Equalizer two, and Equalizer three, So clearly they brought him

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<v Speaker 2>in for the R rated action scenes here, right, That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's where his influence came in. And I guess maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the best thing about this movie is the R rated

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<v Speaker 2>action scenes, but not really because there was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>they were just there, just existed. There was no build

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<v Speaker 2>up to them upcoming. If you're interested in in subpar

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<v Speaker 2>R rated action scenes, he's doing Lethal Weapon five and

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<v Speaker 2>something called The Last Mission. The other two here, Art

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<v Speaker 2>Markham and Matt Holloway were writers on Ironman first Ironman movie,

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<v Speaker 2>Goose they got one. Then they did Punisher, Warzone, Transformers,

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<v Speaker 2>The Last Night, Men in Black International, and Uncharted. So

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<v Speaker 2>they're really just hanging their hats on iron Man there.

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<v Speaker 2>So in general, it's a real bad list. Yeah, these

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<v Speaker 2>three should not write movies ever again. This movie is

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<v Speaker 2>directed by A J. C. Shandor, who I could have

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<v Speaker 2>swore did something. Maybe it was a television series. I

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<v Speaker 2>swear I recognized this name, but on IMDb you may

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<v Speaker 2>know him from Margin Call, which I think he got

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<v Speaker 2>an Oscar for script writing like a decade or fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and then A Most Violent Fear, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a movie you might recognize. That was Oscar Isaac and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the redheads there from Hollywood, what's their name,

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<v Speaker 2>Jessica che Stain, you know in the same vein there

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming doing something called The Robber and the Couple television series.

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<v Speaker 2>In general, goo, direction, I don't know. I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>focus on direction and cinematography in this movie because the

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<v Speaker 2>writing was so bad. One of the worst written movies

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<v Speaker 2>of all time. And it's not even not even like

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<v Speaker 2>the big picture story plot. The in between, the character

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<v Speaker 2>to character dialogue is the worst I have seen, maybe ever,

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<v Speaker 2>really fucking bad.

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<v Speaker 1>They also added in so much audio and posts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now it was slightly better than Madam Webb, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was all very obvious and they were just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fill so many holes.

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<v Speaker 2>And it had to have been because they were probably

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<v Speaker 2>trying some accent stuff live on set and it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>Either that or the story made less sense. Yeah, even

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<v Speaker 1>this story pretty straightforward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a pretty simplistic story. I'll give it credit

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<v Speaker 2>for that. Synopsis. Craven's complex relationship with his ruthless father,

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<v Speaker 2>Nikolai Cravenoff, starts him down a path of vengeance with

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<v Speaker 2>brutal consequences, motivating him to become not only the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>hunter in the world, but also one of its most fears.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know that the awards are supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>the macin Goo Awards, the cinemackin Gooviy Awards. Uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a category this year for dumbest name, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be a real person's name. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Cravenoff has to be in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's probably his name from the comment.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it definitely is, but seeing it written out

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<v Speaker 1>and spoken is really stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Good. This movie stars at J Aaron Taylor Johnson as

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<v Speaker 2>SERGEI craven Off aka Craven the Hunter. Ariana Debos is

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<v Speaker 2>calypso Azilie. Now. I don't want to speak illy about

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<v Speaker 2>Ariana Deboe's because I'm sure it's the writing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely, it's definitely the writing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's been a successful actress up until this point. Her character,

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<v Speaker 2>in her acting was fucking terrible in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Really fuck look at the rest of this list, and

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<v Speaker 1>then also look at if you look at IMDb, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the lists, I would say ninety eight percent of

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<v Speaker 1>this movie is men, right, yeah, yep. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they added in as much of her as possible

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, shoot, we need a woman in this.

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<v Speaker 2>We forgot about women in how do women speak? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Also in here is Fred Heckinger as Dimitri

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<v Speaker 2>cravenof Serge's half brother, and the whole movie I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>where is this guy from? How do I recognize?

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<v Speaker 1>Just see him? I know.

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<v Speaker 2>From Gladiator to it was so distracting the whole time

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, I know, I know him. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>Guy plays a sniveling weasel's I'm not even sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the polly pocket of a fella.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a mad max.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. Alessandro Novola as Alexi Sistovich aka The.

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<v Speaker 1>Rhino spoilers spoilers.

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<v Speaker 2>He was playing a different character.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not my I don't know who this is

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<v Speaker 1>favorite line in the movie, and this is a Madam

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<v Speaker 1>the Rhino? And then he just takes his little feedbag

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<v Speaker 1>rhino because you turn into a rhino? You quite literally

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<v Speaker 1>turn into a rhino? Is that why they call you

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<v Speaker 1>the Rhino?

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<v Speaker 2>I laughed. I laughed out loud at one point when

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<v Speaker 2>he just loudly hissed about two thirds of lay through

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<v Speaker 2>the movie. Yeah, I don't know where the fuck that

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<v Speaker 2>came from. I don't know what decision that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever spoken to a rhino? Do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>read a zoo book?

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the movie theater with three other people,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple sitting like five seats down for me and

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<v Speaker 2>then someone behind me. And there were two or three

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<v Speaker 2>different points where all four of us were laughing at

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<v Speaker 2>this movie, laughing at it, not with it at it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was that bad at points. Not as bad as

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<v Speaker 2>Madame Web, don't get me wrong, but it did have

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<v Speaker 2>some terrible moments. Good Christopher Abbott, who you would recognize

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<v Speaker 2>from the TV series Girls, plays a character called the

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<v Speaker 2>Foreigner in here. And I don't know what this person's

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<v Speaker 2>powers are. I don't. I've never heard of this character.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they can and can do. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>they can count the three and during those three seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they can move really fast, right, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what I picked.

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<v Speaker 2>They can move like the flash. Yeah, I don't, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand it. His character was completely inconsequential. Russell Crowe

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<v Speaker 2>plays the father, Nikolai craven Off, and then Uri bear

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<v Speaker 2>with me on this one. Uri colokol Nikoff as Seme

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<v Speaker 2>and Shurney. He was the gangster in the prison that

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<v Speaker 2>craven kills in the first eight minutes here. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>you really need to know about this movie. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>think Aaron Taylor Johnson did like an okay job here.

421
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<v Speaker 2>Just the character wasn't good. Everyone else is terrible, terrible

422
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<v Speaker 2>in this movie. But particularly and again I can't really

423
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<v Speaker 2>blame her because she's thrown into the fire ariana debos.

424
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<v Speaker 2>Other than Dakota Johnson might have been the worst female

425
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<v Speaker 2>character I've seen all year.

426
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<v Speaker 1>It's once again someone being like, we need to put

427
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<v Speaker 1>a female in this and then realizing that they've never

428
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<v Speaker 1>spoken to one.

429
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they did do, but you hear

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<v Speaker 2>the name Calypso one hundred and thirty five times in

431
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<v Speaker 2>this movie, and this is what goes. This is what

432
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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about. The dialogue of this movie is so bad.

433
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<v Speaker 2>Like you and I talking to each other, you just

434
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<v Speaker 2>address each other when you're in the same wrong. I

435
00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:19.240
<v Speaker 2>don't start every sentence someone who.

436
00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Has listened to every one of our podcasts, you start

437
00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:25.039
<v Speaker 1>every sentence with Goo. I started presentence with Mac to

438
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<v Speaker 1>remind the people who we are on the podcast.

439
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<v Speaker 2>They do it because it's somewhat comical when we're When

440
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<v Speaker 2>you're just having a regular conversation and a room with

441
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<v Speaker 2>just two people, you don't use their name.

442
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<v Speaker 1>I don't do it for comic reasons.

443
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<v Speaker 2>When we're introduced to Calypso in this movie Goo, her

444
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<v Speaker 2>and her grandmother are having a conversation and her grandmother says,

445
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<v Speaker 2>Calypso and had to have been fifteen times.

446
00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:51.920
<v Speaker 1>While she was writing, and she wanted to spell it right.

447
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<v Speaker 1>That was the main thing.

448
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<v Speaker 2>Once again. About an hour into this movie, which was

449
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<v Speaker 2>right about at the end of like the background, Young Day,

450
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<v Speaker 2>I started texting you because I'm like, this movie is

451
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<v Speaker 2>fucking bad. I nearly walked out. My phone was out

452
00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't even care. It is unequivocally some of

453
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<v Speaker 2>the worst movie dialogue of all time.

454
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<v Speaker 1>The flashback is the worst origin story anything that we

455
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<v Speaker 1>have seen on film. The flashback was trash back or.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Does he get no? The lion gets shot and then

457
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<v Speaker 2>the lion's blood drips into the wound from the lion.

458
00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah to then he gets talking out, talking out, yeah yeah.

459
00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Then he gets a little potion from Clipso, who apparently

460
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't afraid of the lion that just waltzed away, and

461
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<v Speaker 2>that's how he becomes craven. That was that was he.

462
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<v Speaker 1>Becomes nature boy. He becomes a little lion boy, the

463
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<v Speaker 1>little lion man that the that band sings about come

464
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<v Speaker 1>on Mufford sense, and I had to double check after

465
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<v Speaker 1>the movie, being like, I don't think that's what Craven

466
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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be.

467
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<v Speaker 2>Not as brave as you were at the start.

468
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<v Speaker 1>Craven is supposed to be this huntsman. His brother's name

469
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<v Speaker 1>is Mike, who what he was always sir ching for

470
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<v Speaker 1>the Ultimate Game? His main thing is in the comic

471
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<v Speaker 1>is that he wants to hunt Spider Man.

472
00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, you saw in here it's his big as fears.

473
00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, No, but it would have made more sense if

474
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<v Speaker 1>it was the other way around. Where the Rhino was

475
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<v Speaker 1>in complete fear of Craven, not because he's on a list,

476
00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:23.839
<v Speaker 1>because Craven has that thirst for hunting and he knows

477
00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that there's a human rhino hybrid and that seems like fun,

478
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>so like he needs to have fun while hunting, not

479
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:35.519
<v Speaker 1>because oh he stole my brother. Whatever the fuck it is.

480
00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:41.039
<v Speaker 2>This portrayal of the Rhino is like demonstrably worse than

481
00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Paul Giamatti's Rhino at the end of Amazing Spider Man two.

482
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<v Speaker 2>This iteration is so fucking bad. But I don't even

483
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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about that yet. I will save that.

484
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<v Speaker 1>I am a rhino. Now it's because your father told

485
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:55.839
<v Speaker 1>me I was the elk men, so I went with

486
00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:59.559
<v Speaker 1>this doctor. He made me a monster.

487
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<v Speaker 2>The most frustrating thing about this movie is they get

488
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<v Speaker 2>the R rating, right, so you're like, okay, they can

489
00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:09.359
<v Speaker 2>have fun. But them giving this movie the R rating

490
00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:11.839
<v Speaker 2>and not doing it to any of the three Venom movies,

491
00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:14.680
<v Speaker 2>which had a chance to be really good if it

492
00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:18.480
<v Speaker 2>had gotten an R rating, it's so fucking frustrating because

493
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:20.680
<v Speaker 2>what they did instead with this is like, all right,

494
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>we got the R rating. We're gonna say fuck a

495
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.680
<v Speaker 2>bunch of times, and there's gonna have like three scenes

496
00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:27.720
<v Speaker 2>of brutal kills. We don't know what the rest of

497
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:29.599
<v Speaker 2>the movie is gonna be, but we got we got

498
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<v Speaker 2>the R. We can't do that. Then they built it

499
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:33.519
<v Speaker 2>out from there and you can tell that's what they did,

500
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:36.839
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's incredibly frustrating, really really frustrating.

501
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<v Speaker 1>Am I crazy? Or was Russell Crowe the best character

502
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<v Speaker 1>in this movie?

503
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure Russell Crowe was drunk the whole time.

504
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Possibly he was drinking a lot of what looked like vodka.

505
00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:48.920
<v Speaker 1>It might have been real vodka.

506
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.720
<v Speaker 2>He just drank did a Russian accent or a pseudo

507
00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Russian accent, and then he left set.

508
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And just constantly what thought you a woman, men, a

509
00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:01.519
<v Speaker 1>strong women, weak? And Russia?

510
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>It was it was like I just I couldn't believe that,

511
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>like in the year twenty twenty four Goo, the Year

512
00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:15.559
<v Speaker 2>of Our Lord, Yeah, six movies into this universe, that

513
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:20.640
<v Speaker 2>the writing was this bad writing again, Madam Webb's writing

514
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:24.119
<v Speaker 2>is bad story wise, what happens the events and the

515
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:24.960
<v Speaker 2>dialogue's bad there.

516
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:26.279
<v Speaker 1>The dialogue is more fun.

517
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Though the dialogue in this movie, like the story and

518
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the plot here somewhat makes sense. The dialogue is so

519
00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:35.440
<v Speaker 2>fucking bad. It's like it was written by like a

520
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.519
<v Speaker 2>twelve year old boy that like didn't like, Oh this

521
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.119
<v Speaker 2>is how adults talk like. The people that wrote this

522
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.519
<v Speaker 2>movie have never been involved in an adult conversation in

523
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<v Speaker 2>their lives.

524
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh why is he running fast because a lion bled

525
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:52.759
<v Speaker 1>into him? You fucking idiot? Shall we get into the

526
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>nanagon the nonsense agon fun factor? There's none, There is

527
00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>no fun.

528
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.079
<v Speaker 2>I started having fun when I realized the other three

529
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:04.720
<v Speaker 2>people in the movie were laughing at the same things

530
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I were. But it was only like two or three things.

531
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:07.519
<v Speaker 1>It was group fun.

532
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.359
<v Speaker 2>It was, yeah, we had it was a group effort

533
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:13.880
<v Speaker 2>and I was thinking about laughing, but I also was like,

534
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't like making noise in the theater, even though

535
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:17.599
<v Speaker 2>I had already taken my phone out. And then the

536
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:24.119
<v Speaker 2>female my pants off. The female like six seats down,

537
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>couldn't contain it. After one of the things, she just

538
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 2>like burst out and laughter, and then I was like,

539
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 2>all right, we can have some fun here.

540
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Borometer wildly boring.

541
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 2>The first hour of this movie is incredibly boring.

542
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'll say, let me let me stop you right

543
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>there after that first hour though more bore, but.

544
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.799
<v Speaker 2>It was more. There is more bore, but it was

545
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:46.359
<v Speaker 2>more boring the first hour.

546
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're looking at the bell curve of boring. First

547
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 1>hour No, like I said, the origin story in it

548
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>fucking horrible.

549
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:57.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it wasn't even like and I guess we'll

550
00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:58.160
<v Speaker 2>get to.

551
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>This and spoilers sad as factor. I was not satisfied

552
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 1>by this movie at all, and if anything, it made

553
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>me sad, sad that I had wasted my time.

554
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah for an R rated comic book movie with Aaron

555
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Johnson, who I really like it to be this

556
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>bad did make me saddy.

557
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Like they should have thrown him a bone here because

558
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.559
<v Speaker 1>they had so much adr. Anyways, that's audio that you

559
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>add in post that they should have let him, say,

560
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>go watch Nusferatu in two weeks. I'm better in that.

561
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.240
<v Speaker 2>They should have let him fuck around with the Russian accent. Yeah,

562
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you might. If it's the movie's gonna be this bad,

563
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Let him have a bad.

564
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Let him do Yakov spear enoff, let him do what

565
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this whole time. Halloween. I will never

566
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 1>ever watch this again. I've rewatched Madam Webb. I have

567
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 1>rewatched Madam Web twice now. I watched it on a plane.

568
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 1>It was a palate cleanser on the plane.

569
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this movie is terrible. There's nothing to rewatch in here, nothing.

570
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Water World, the aquater World. Is this better or worse

571
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 1>than nineteen ninety five classic water World? And it is

572
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:03.519
<v Speaker 1>way worse.

573
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if Madam Webb's at the center of the earth,

574
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:08.720
<v Speaker 2>so then maybe you have fun again with the lava.

575
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>This is sitting at the bottom of the ocean floor.

576
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>This the action from the nineteen ninety five movie, better

577
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.519
<v Speaker 1>than action in the twenty twenty four movie.

578
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Admittedly I did like the the bear Trap kill,

579
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:23.319
<v Speaker 2>but that was about it.

580
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>In this movie Plemonade. When life gives you plemings, you

581
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.640
<v Speaker 1>make Plemonade. And Russell Crowe was the best actor in

582
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>this movie.

583
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:33.839
<v Speaker 2>He didn't make Plemingade though.

584
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.319
<v Speaker 1>No one made Plemonade. No one did.

585
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

586
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Remember what he was getting shot at and he picked

587
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 1>up that smaller, weaker man than he used him as

588
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>his shield. I like that. I guess, like, actually, you

589
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:52.759
<v Speaker 1>know bullets. You understand how you understand how fucking weaponry works.

590
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.559
<v Speaker 1>If you hold up someone while being shot at, will

591
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>they block the bullets or will the bullets go through

592
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>them and then hit you?

593
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 2>It depends what bullet is being fired and what gun

594
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 2>is firing them a lot of variables.

595
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Those look like pretty high caliber guns.

596
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 2>It could definitely rip through and then it maybe might

597
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 2>hurt you. I don't know. I don't know.

598
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>You told me at the beginning of this episode that

599
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 1>you know everything, and so far you've known nothing.

600
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to know in this movie.

601
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 1>The guys go on X right now, go on Instagram,

602
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>tell us can you block bullets with the human body

603
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:28.119
<v Speaker 1>without being affected?

604
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 2>Some you can?

605
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you are just you don't tear your goots. Okay,

606
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>get off the fence? Yes or no? Can you eat

607
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the moon if it's made out of barbecue spare rooms?

608
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Or would you not? Could you? The answer is obviously

609
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 1>yes you could. You can eat the moon right now

610
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 1>if it's made out of rocks. I'm not gonna tell

611
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:49.119
<v Speaker 1>you too, but you could. Max credit Union, who are

612
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 1>you giving credit to?

613
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 2>I guess Aaron Taylor Johnson for trying trying his darness.

614
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>No, he wasn't trying. I don't think he was trying.

615
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Dude, did you see his fucking abdomen?

616
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Come on, he's obviously he looked great. But what I'm

617
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>saying so you are under selling him and his talent

618
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 1>by saying that he's trying in this don't do that.

619
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I think he tried. I think when he when when

620
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.559
<v Speaker 2>he signed up for this movie, he thought he thought

621
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:13.559
<v Speaker 2>there'd be something here.

622
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 1>He turned it at first. Mac thinks that Aaron Taylor

623
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Johnson is a shitty actor.

624
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I think he tried. The writing goo writing again.

625
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Look, the writing deserves all of the blame. Sony Pictures

626
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>deserves all of the blame. Spam deserves all of the blame,

627
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Speaker 1>but don't give people credit for being.

628
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Shore No no, because in direct contrast, the co star

629
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>aren't in a Debo's notable. Trier doesn't try in this movie.

630
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:38.960
<v Speaker 2>She's fucking terrible.

631
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:44.519
<v Speaker 1>That's because she can't. She can't try in this I mean,

632
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you might be right, you might be pants ten City

633
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Excite bike Mania, And I will say that the builds

634
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.319
<v Speaker 1>up to finally getting the rhino. I'm like, Okay, let's

635
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.839
<v Speaker 1>fucking see this rhino. Let's see this stupid battle that's

636
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>been teased a couple times.

637
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this stupid fuck and rhino that we saw on

638
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 2>the trailer. Yet somehow they're saving for the final.

639
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen And then finally they showed it, and they showed

640
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.319
<v Speaker 1>the battle, and I'm like, this is what we've been

641
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>building toward this entire time. This is it.

642
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Yikes again. I liked the guy taking the bear trap

643
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.799
<v Speaker 2>to the head. That was That was solid. That was

644
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:19.559
<v Speaker 2>about the only time the R rating was worth it.

645
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Everything else was There's no credit to be delved out here. This,

646
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>this is this movie is terrible.

647
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Did you get a little you know, a little pants tent?

648
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>What do you put on the vest at the end

649
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:30.839
<v Speaker 1>and He's like, maybe I'm not the good guy. Maybe

650
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I am a bad guy because.

651
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I am like some people drive, you know.

652
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I go, I drive with two hands on the wheel.

653
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Like this, going two miles per hour below the speed limit.

654
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, you don't want to go too fast, too furious?

655
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Mac. For those of you tarty to the

656
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Mac and Goo party, we rate everything on a forty

657
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 1>hot dog rating system. Mac, there was uh the animal CGI.

658
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was complete. Douchie, you mentioned the action,

659
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 1>the R rated action. The editing on the action was nauseating.

660
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I hated it. It looked terrible. It's an uninteresting story,

661
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>it's poorly paced, and there's no humor. Where's the fun

662
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>in this? It's a comic book movie. What are we doing?

663
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's not bad enough to be fun. If you're

664
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna be bad, be bad, just accept it. Be shitty.

665
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 1>It reminds me a lot, and I'm saying, like, Black

666
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Adams better than this, but it reminds me how just

667
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>cookie cutter. And they're like, well, I think the people

668
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>will like this, let's just do this shit. And it

669
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't pay off at all. No, this is the worst

670
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>of what comic book movies have to offer. There's nothing new,

671
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 1>it thinks it's edgy, and it makes a fan favorite

672
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 1>villain a hero. Why not let's have people cheer for them, right,

673
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.279
<v Speaker 1>And then the last twenty ish minutes I don't know

674
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>how fucking time works anymore, is just to set up

675
00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 1>a sequel to what what are we setting up a

676
00:32:59.519 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>sequel to?

677
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah, the Chameleon solo movie.

678
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.839
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see that snibbling weasel back on.

679
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Screen, which, by the way, you talk about the CGI

680
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.799
<v Speaker 2>with the animals, the CGI Chameleon some of the worst

681
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>we've ever seen.

682
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>That was couldn't you tell the entire time he could

683
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 1>do voices? He was doing the voices the entire time.

684
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is a like a young fucking Bill

685
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Hayter up there.

686
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 2>He is so distractingly little that you think they that

687
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:27.119
<v Speaker 2>he's cgi'ed little.

688
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>And for some reason, and I don't know if his

689
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.279
<v Speaker 1>hands are small, but my eyes were really just drawn

690
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 1>to his hands because I felt like they were tiny,

691
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:38.839
<v Speaker 1>like Uncle Jack and it's always sunny. He should have

692
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 1>put giant fake hands on good.

693
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 2>What is your hot talk creating for this?

694
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I watched this a week ago. And

695
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I hate it, but I still like it more than

696
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Kinds of Kindness and Joker because of the promise that

697
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I was given with those movies.

698
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so definitively, you have three worst movies than this

699
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>on the year.

700
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, But my final movie, Madam Webb, I would take

701
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>over almost any movie on the year, over percent of

702
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the movies on the year, I'll say twelve hot Dogs.

703
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh thirteen, motherfuck no, No, I'm gonna go one higher

704
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>than you because you hated it more than me. You

705
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.039
<v Speaker 1>texted me at the time being like, this is the

706
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:23.559
<v Speaker 1>worst fucking thing ever. I think I think it's better

707
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.159
<v Speaker 1>than worse, but also worse than better done. Put that

708
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 1>on the DVD cover.

709
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Kil This is everything. This is fucking everything. I have

710
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:39.079
<v Speaker 2>to use your name, Calypso, this is everything everything I've

711
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.760
<v Speaker 2>always been worried about with R rated comic book movies,

712
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.840
<v Speaker 2>they thought just having a few gory scenes and some swears.

713
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>And not even al Gore.

714
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 2>So they built this movie around the few action set

715
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>pieces and some swears and just filled in the restroom there,

716
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.400
<v Speaker 2>resulting in one of the worst written movies ever.

717
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:00.119
<v Speaker 1>Do you imagine a giant craven timeline where they'll like

718
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.880
<v Speaker 1>action set piece, action set piece, and then fuck fuck

719
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:06.079
<v Speaker 1>fuck throughout the timeline they're like, okay, guys, we gotta

720
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>fill in the rest.

721
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:10.480
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much what happened here. Wow, pretty much. Yeah,

722
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even talking about like worst written movie of

723
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 2>the year. It's one of the worst movies, written movies

724
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>of the decade, of all time, of the millennium. Again,

725
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.239
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. Madam Webb is worse. Don't get

726
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.639
<v Speaker 2>me wrong. The characters in Madam Webb do so many

727
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.400
<v Speaker 2>incredibly dumb things that isn't quite present here. They just

728
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>talk stupid here. This movie is more like what the

729
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 2>characters are saying is written again by a child. So

730
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 2>the overall plot isn't as dumb as something like Madam Webb,

731
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.840
<v Speaker 2>but the in between shit, Yes, maybe worse. It's awful.

732
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Taylor Johnson is Aaron Taylor Johnson. I really don't

733
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>have too many issues with things he did, but everything

734
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:48.440
<v Speaker 2>else in this movie is bad. Arianna Debosa's Clipso is

735
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 2>fucking terrible. Every single thing that's even involving her is terrible.

736
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:55.119
<v Speaker 2>The new spin on the House.

737
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Stop blaming her, stop bringing up her name, Just bring

738
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.039
<v Speaker 1>up the character's name and blame the writers for it.

739
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't think no one could have done it. You

740
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>could add Meryl Street play fucking Calypso and it wouldn't matter.

741
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Russell crowz here guz so how about that? Uh? I

742
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>have it at twelve hot Dogs in honor of how

743
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 2>many abs Aaron Taylor Johnson shows us in this movie.

744
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 2>It's my second worst movie of twenty twenty four. Only

745
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Madam Webb is below this. But good riddance, right, good

746
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:26.039
<v Speaker 2>riddance to the Sony Spider Man in universe something unpredictable,

747
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>but in the end there's right. I hope you had

748
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the time of your life. Fucking put a bullet either

749
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 2>in my brain or whoever is creating these movies' brains.

750
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 2>This is like, like at least the last Venom movie,

751
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 2>there's some like fun to be had. There's all sorts

752
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 2>of suits and powers. This movie is so devoid of fun,

753
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 2>like it just sucked the will to live out of me,

754
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Like it's it just truly put a stamp on the

755
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>end of this fucking universe.

756
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.559
<v Speaker 1>You know who you couldn't put a bullet into. Spoilers

757
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>spoiler spoilers. The Rhino but you know what you could do.

758
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 1>You could death star them and then foss at him.

759
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he has this one glaring weakness. He's gonna

760
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 2>put his fucking.

761
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna giant hole. You can put your finger into.

762
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.960
<v Speaker 2>His hole, into his abdomen. So I that was pretty glaring.

763
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 2>You knew that was gonna play up. But so yeah,

764
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:17.519
<v Speaker 2>the way he goes out is dumb, obviously, But the

765
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 2>characters at that point you don't even care what happens

766
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 2>to them.

767
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.079
<v Speaker 1>He gets hit by trucks, he gets blasted by guns,

768
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.519
<v Speaker 1>and then what happens wilderbeast.

769
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I have some things here. So one of the laugh

770
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 2>out loud moments is when you think that Craven is

771
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 2>about to die at the hands of the Foreigner, and

772
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 2>then Clipso he's counting, goes one, two, as he does

773
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>in the movie, and then Clipso goes three and shoots

774
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:43.199
<v Speaker 2>him in the face with it with an arrow.

775
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:47.719
<v Speaker 1>She foreshadowed, you said, the writing sucks. They foreshadowed with

776
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.559
<v Speaker 1>the writing that she had used a bow and arrow before.

777
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Somehow goo Yes, we find out in this movie that

778
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 2>Craven's mom went nuts. And one of the big reveals

779
00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 2>in this movie is that she went nuts because of

780
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 2>spy spiders drove her insane. And this is also somehow

781
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Craven's biggest fear.

782
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>That was the time. And I'm not saying don't introduce

783
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man. Let's go all out, let's get fucking nuts.

784
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 1>Introduce Madam Webb into this movie, or introduce Madam Webb's

785
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>mom who went to the jungle to study spiders.

786
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 2>No, give me a Wild West spider. How about that?

787
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:22.079
<v Speaker 1>What is it?

788
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Give me a big wild Wild West spider?

789
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's even better. Have a giant mechanical

790
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 1>spider in here. And will Smith Popson as well.

791
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 2>The major easter egg we get in here at Goou

792
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 2>is the doctor in New York that turns rhino into

793
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.800
<v Speaker 2>rhino and ultimately turns Chamellion into chameleon, which again the

794
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Chameleon CGI at the end was fucking terrible. Is Mike

795
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Warren or Miles Warren aka the Jackal, who was also

796
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.039
<v Speaker 2>another character in comic books. No one cares about that.

797
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I had a real issue, and again the writing spad

798
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.440
<v Speaker 2>but I had a real issue. What do we get

799
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 2>a time jump of what like ten years in this movie?

800
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.519
<v Speaker 2>So the cram when they go on that hunting trip

801
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>with their father in Africa. Meet the guy that plays

802
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Rhino eventually turns into the Rhino, and it's not like

803
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.840
<v Speaker 2>they're six years old and wouldn't remember this fellow. He

804
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:15.519
<v Speaker 2>looks exactly the same, and they're like, they would have

805
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>clearly remembered who the fuck.

806
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Let me stop you right there. That was the day

807
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.519
<v Speaker 1>that Craven was attacked by a lion. I feel like

808
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 1>that would have been the focus of my day. I

809
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.039
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have remembered this weak men who was not strong

810
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 1>enough to be like my father.

811
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 2>So cut to the ten year time jump right, alexi

812
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Aka of the Rhino and his men kidnap Dmitri. Serget

813
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>was not in the building. They kidnapped Dmitri, and Dmitri's like, oh,

814
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember you. I don't know who you.

815
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 1>Are because his brother was attacked by a lion on

816
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that day. That would be the tenth pole moment of

817
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:50.599
<v Speaker 1>that day for me.

818
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Rhino says in response to I don't remember you. You

819
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:57.320
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't my hair was different. Then there's a good.

820
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.559
<v Speaker 1>Joke in the movie. Don't you snivel at their jokes

821
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>at me?

822
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>And my three friends were laughing. We had a good

823
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 2>old time at that point. Dude, this movie is so bad.

824
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 2>There's no post credits, is nothing. This universe is dead hopefully.

825
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I just I'm glad it's over.

826
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Fourteen hot dogs. Fourteen hot dogs. I forgot this. Thank

827
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:18.639
<v Speaker 1>you for bringing this up. No post credits scene. Don't

828
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:20.639
<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, I had to sit through the credits anyways,

829
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:25.199
<v Speaker 1>but there were no post credit scenes. Thumbs up, fourteen

830
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>hot dogs.

831
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I'm still at twelve. This movie is fucking terrible,

832
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.679
<v Speaker 2>but somehow still better than Madam Webb.

833
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Good. Let's get into Mac Sack and mack Sack could

834
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>be anything. It could be a boat, and this week,

835
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>since we just got Craven that it could be the

836
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>last of the spam movies, the Sony Pictures in association

837
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:53.039
<v Speaker 1>with Marvel, which is still the funniest logo ever where

838
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 1>they put Marvel up first and then very small in

839
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>association with I will ask you Mac to please rank

840
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 1>the six live action shitty movies.

841
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>So once again, there was a plane at some point

842
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.599
<v Speaker 2>a decade ago to tie this into the Garfield movies.

843
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.320
<v Speaker 2>They never did that and instead we got this, So

844
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.800
<v Speaker 2>we get Venom twenty eighteen, Venom Let Their Big Connage

845
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.639
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, Morbius twenty twenty two, and then we

846
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.400
<v Speaker 2>got three this year, Madam Webb. Venom, The Last Dance

847
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>in Craven the Hunter to me, head and shoulders above

848
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.440
<v Speaker 2>everything else in this universe is the first Venom movie.

849
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I think I gave it thirty originally might be down

850
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 2>a couple of dogs, but still head and shoulders above

851
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 2>everything else in this universe. Then I think we have

852
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.880
<v Speaker 2>a second or middle tier, where you have Morbius and

853
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the two Venom sequels that are they exist. There's some good,

854
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:45.559
<v Speaker 2>there's some bad. Well, Morbias is just kind of there.

855
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>No Morbius brought the Vulture into this universe and then

856
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:50.599
<v Speaker 1>destroyed them because now we can't come back to.

857
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Those movies are not good. They're not as bad as

858
00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the two terrible movies in this universe, Web and Craven.

859
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Actually you could even have them in their own tiers.

860
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:06.039
<v Speaker 2>But these two movies, to me, are so far below

861
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.199
<v Speaker 2>even those shitty movies of Morbius, The Last Dance and

862
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Let There Be Carne. It's like I just I can't,

863
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I cannot believe that three of these movies came out

864
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.599
<v Speaker 2>this year, and two of them are two of the

865
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>worst movies I've ever seen.

866
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, they should have really leaned in

867
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:25.199
<v Speaker 1>on a post credit scene of Michael Keaton showing up

868
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 1>and being like, how the fuck do I keep showing

869
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.199
<v Speaker 1>up in these things? Like let them swear and make

870
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 1>a joke?

871
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I just like, because this movie is so boring and

872
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 2>so forgettable, I'm not gonna remember it in the pantheon

873
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.519
<v Speaker 2>of all time bad movies like I will Madam Webb,

874
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 2>but it deserves mentioned. It definitely deserves mention. This movie

875
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:45.840
<v Speaker 2>is fucking tremendously bad.

876
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so if I'm gonna make my tears at the top,

877
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:51.639
<v Speaker 1>the most rewatchable, best movie of the bunch is Madam Webb.

878
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 1>I love that movie. Nothing in this universe even comes

879
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>close to making me want to watch again, So no

880
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:01.280
<v Speaker 1>thank you to that. I would then Venom of like

881
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a cromulent movie. It's not great. It definitely has

882
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of holes. It really does need Spider Man

883
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>for a for an origin story for Venom, but it's

884
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 1>it's It's Goovy Goo, so how could Goo pass up

885
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>on that? Then I would put the last Dance after that,

886
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 1>because we're just getting into a pile of shit. Now.

887
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Last Dance had fifteen minutes that I enjoyed of him

888
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:27.639
<v Speaker 1>doing a buddy cop road trip through Vegas. I would

889
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Speaker 1>take that. Then I go with let there Be Carnage,

890
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and keep this in mind. Let there Be Carnage, I

891
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:36.599
<v Speaker 1>think is the loudest movie of all time, and I

892
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>do not. I just I don't like it, but here

893
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 1>we are sure. Then I go Morbius because Morbius is bland, boring,

894
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>but Jared Leto walked with crutches off the set just

895
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.119
<v Speaker 1>to try to be like this character and annoyed the

896
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 1>entire crew by doing it. And then we go to Craven,

897
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 1>the Hunter that I believe has nothing to offer.

898
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't agree with you. Looking forward, if this

899
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 2>universe does somehow still exist going forward, you still have

900
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.880
<v Speaker 2>that third Spider Verse movie. Really interesting thing here, So

901
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.079
<v Speaker 2>they are still making the Spider Noir series, starting the

902
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Cage that's gonna be coming to MGM. Plus why the

903
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 2>fuck are they that no one has that? Like that?

904
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 2>That is so fucking annoying? Like what like yet again,

905
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.199
<v Speaker 2>let's make yet another bad decision, Like how the fuck

906
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 2>does that end up on MGM plus like where else

907
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:36.159
<v Speaker 2>would over like? And Sony has built up so much

908
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:39.800
<v Speaker 2>goodwill with the video games in the PlayStation.

909
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 1>You paused for too long there first, I'm like, where

910
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:43.880
<v Speaker 1>is this good will coming from?

911
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 2>And even the two Garfield movies I like more than

912
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 2>most people. And obviously you have the original Reimi movies,

913
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:51.519
<v Speaker 2>but holy shit, if they are they fucking shooting themselves

914
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 2>in the foot with these movies. Just just quit it.

915
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Just quit it. Let let Marvel do their thing, let

916
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the MCU do their thing, and just reap some of

917
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the benefits from that. You don't need to do your

918
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:01.599
<v Speaker 2>own thing.

919
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh. I introduced my son to the Spider Man game

920
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>that came out for the PS four and then remastered

921
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>for PS five, and god damn it does it look good.

922
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:12.239
<v Speaker 2>It's so fun.

923
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's so fun. There was a bit too many restrictions

924
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.320
<v Speaker 1>on it at the beginning for him, because he just

925
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.559
<v Speaker 1>wanted to swing around New York. He's four years old.

926
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:21.800
<v Speaker 1>He just wanted to go to Times Square, he wanted

927
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to go to the Zoo, but he had to go

928
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>on a mission. He didn't want to go on a mission. Luckily,

929
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Astro Boy is free on the PS five and astrobought sorry.

930
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:34.679
<v Speaker 1>He had the time of his life for the next

931
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:35.519
<v Speaker 1>three hours.

932
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 2>There's a second game too. Where are you playing? The

933
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:38.280
<v Speaker 2>first of the second game?

934
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 1>The whicheveryone's free on the system.

935
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 2>There's two astroboch games. Yeah, they came out with the

936
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:43.880
<v Speaker 2>second one. So the second one?

937
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>What where is that?

938
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:47.920
<v Speaker 2>There's two games? Is it also I think the first

939
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:49.119
<v Speaker 2>one came out with PS four?

940
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe is it also free?

941
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? They're all free. They're all free all the time.

942
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:55.400
<v Speaker 2>My god, the second one. So I was watching. My

943
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 2>nephew played the other who's five a year old than Raffi.

944
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.119
<v Speaker 2>He loves Astrobot loves it, and he's at which I'm

945
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>sure at Rafi will be at in a year. I

946
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:06.239
<v Speaker 2>watched him play Spider Man two. He doesn't look up

947
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>or look down. He's playing like it's intuitive for him.

948
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 2>He can actually play the game, which blows my mind.

949
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.760
<v Speaker 1>As opposed to me where I'm looking down and using

950
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 1>my fingers like this and pointing like that like I'm

951
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to type something. Dear Sony, I did not like

952
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 1>your movie Crave. No, it's Craven with a K.

953
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I'm so upset with this movie

954
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:29.519
<v Speaker 2>because I shouldn't have expected it to be good. But

955
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess them holding back stuff from us and me

956
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:36.320
<v Speaker 2>loving Aaron Taylor Johnson set my expectations, I guess way

957
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 2>too like expecting a twenty four dog movie was apparently

958
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 2>way too fucking high for this.

959
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I think what I'm most upset about is that there

960
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>are more movies coming out now, like movies around Christmas

961
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:51.039
<v Speaker 1>time where I need to tell my or ask my wife.

962
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hey, there's a movie coming out, there's a

963
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 1>screening coming out. I would like to go and see it,

964
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and then she'd be like, well, you went to that

965
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.519
<v Speaker 1>one two weeks ago, and I'm like, fuck, I wasted

966
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:03.199
<v Speaker 1>my screening on Morbius. I wasted my away time on Morbius.

967
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:06.960
<v Speaker 2>You also, just to throw an adendum on this whole thing,

968
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't shut the fuck up about Hot frost the

969
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.079
<v Speaker 2>other day, so I watched it. Oh, how was it

970
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:12.320
<v Speaker 2>better than this movie?

971
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>You would take? Actually, I have Hot Frosty above it too.

972
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Did you laugh at anything?

973
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I That movie's fucking terrible too, But at least that

974
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.679
<v Speaker 2>movie is bad in the way Netflix movie should be bad.

975
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:26.480
<v Speaker 1>But didn't you feel bad seeing all of our forgotten

976
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 1>heroes of sitcom pasted up on screen like pulling teeth

977
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 1>trying to make you laugh, and none of them are funny.

978
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Pushed it up a little bit over this, as you

979
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 2>have notable actors trying a little bit. You also fucking

980
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 2>lied to meet. Craig Robinson plays keyboard like ten minutes

981
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 2>into the movie.

982
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I drove by Max House the day after that, and

983
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:46.679
<v Speaker 1>he he had snow on his front lawn and he's

984
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:51.679
<v Speaker 1>tried making this real big booty snowman to come to life,

985
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.519
<v Speaker 1>theme to life, this giant rack of a snowman.

986
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:58.639
<v Speaker 2>I will say. I think it's because she does thirty

987
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:02.840
<v Speaker 2>five Hallmark movies a year. Lacyshebert looks tired not to

988
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:04.320
<v Speaker 2>bring someone down.

989
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen the Lindsay Lohan one yet?

990
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I have not. Did you see the nod? Did you

991
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.199
<v Speaker 2>see the nod to that movie? In this movie? No,

992
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh, that looks like a girl I went

993
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>to high school with.

994
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.639
<v Speaker 1>I think that you would actually like that movie, Okay,

995
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:19.559
<v Speaker 1>because you're stupid.

996
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Well that's true, all right? Mac.

997
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Where can the people find us?

998
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:25.559
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<v Speaker 1>Teapublic dot Com. Merged Still time to buy Merged. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can still get it before Christmas. Don't quote me,

1010
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>but just go buy stuff. Who cares. That's what the

1011
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.119
<v Speaker 1>holidays are all about. Buy yourself stuff. Check us out

1012
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the week for news dump. We

1013
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>have tons of Chris Ever coming back, we have Superman trailer.

1014
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:09.679
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot that's gonna be happening before the end

1015
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.519
<v Speaker 1>of the week, so please join us. Then then I

1016
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:14.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know what we're gonna do after that. Next week

1017
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 1>is Christmas, but it's in the middle of the week

1018
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:17.719
<v Speaker 1>so it shouldn't affect our schedule too much.

1019
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll have Yeah, maybe it'll be a double double

1020
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.199
<v Speaker 2>box thumbs up, mago weeek. I don't know. We've got

1021
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 2>movies in the pipeline here, we might Is there screen tonight?

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00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 1>But I already told you that I've wasted my screening

1023
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:31.400
<v Speaker 1>time on Craven, so I'm not allowed to see any

1024
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:32.199
<v Speaker 1>more movies this year.

1025
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:33.639
<v Speaker 2>I know, and I've missed like three of four. So

1026
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:35.559
<v Speaker 2>now I'm itching to get to a screen. So we're

1027
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:35.880
<v Speaker 2>on op.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a screening today. It's for Sonic three,

1029
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.760
<v Speaker 1>but we or I can't make it because it starts

1030
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 1>at five.

1031
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh that is frustrating. Yeah, but that might mean less?

1032
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Is it with real people?

1033
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know right what is that? It doesn't help

1034
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>me at all. I wanted to bring my son. My

1035
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:58.599
<v Speaker 1>son loves Sonic. Tuesdays are goosdays. I abuse Kangaroos tea.

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<v Speaker 2>Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue

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<v Speaker 2>the adventure.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's time for girls jumping on trampolines.