Speaker 1: Oh, here we go.
Speaker 2: Fred Rogan, Rodney Peat on a five seventy LA Sports
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Speaker 2: will be here at one o'clock. So the Dodgers win
Speaker 2: last night, Jason Hayward, Jason Hayward just lashed one into
Speaker 2: the right field seats, three run homer, Dodgers win the game.
Speaker 2: Jason Hayward was pinch hitting. Why did Jason Hayward pinch
Speaker 2: hit in that moment? Because he's had success off that
Speaker 2: pitcher in the past and the Dodgers knew it. They
Speaker 2: sent him up there because he has had success against
Speaker 2: that guy. And last night certainly dotted that exclamation point.
Speaker 2: I mean the pitch was a little up and then
Speaker 2: it was all the way out.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean success won at bat one home run.
Speaker 3: I guess is you know No, in the.
Speaker 1: Past, in the past he'd faced him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and hit one home run against him. I don't
Speaker 3: want to face him like once good, but but yeah,
Speaker 3: uh so he knew him a little bit and I
Speaker 3: think he talked about it a little bit after wheres
Speaker 3: he faced him when he was with the Padres. But
Speaker 3: more than that, fred more than that, it was an
Speaker 3: incredible moment. And I think, uh Jerry Harrison said it
Speaker 3: best after the game that it's the reason why you
Speaker 3: have veteran guys on your roster. It's the reason why
Speaker 3: you have a guy like that that is sitting there
Speaker 3: that can play multiple outfield positions but also can deliver
Speaker 3: in the crunch time and the moment never gets too
Speaker 3: big for him because you're sitting there all game long,
Speaker 3: for seven innings and possibly two hours, not doing anything,
Speaker 3: and then you're called upon in a critical moment and
Speaker 3: you deliver. I mean that is that is you know,
Speaker 3: the being being a true professional and being a veteran
Speaker 3: is why you have those guys on your team like that.
Speaker 3: And he was called upon last night. He was called upon,
Speaker 3: you know many times. You can look back to many
Speaker 3: times this year where he's been called upon and came
Speaker 3: in and delivered. You know, I remember the Colorado Colorado,
Speaker 3: he had a big, giant home run to tie the
Speaker 3: game or to put the Dodgers back close in the game,
Speaker 3: and then ta Oscar hit the go ahead home run.
Speaker 1: But more than that.
Speaker 3: Freddy, people want to you know, all the time and
Speaker 3: we hear it on this show and the grumblings around
Speaker 3: and again set it in a tease. Dodgers got the
Speaker 3: best record in baseball, you know, throughout all the injuries,
Speaker 3: all of that, yet people still want to just get
Speaker 3: rid of Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts is the bad guy.
Speaker 3: Dave Roberts is all his fault and nobody ever gives
Speaker 3: him really any kind of credit or praise when when
Speaker 3: things go well, and being able to navigate all of that,
Speaker 3: all of the injuries this year and all of the
Speaker 3: pitching ups and downs in the bullpen, being able to
Speaker 3: navigate and still keep the Dodgers in first place and
Speaker 3: keep the Dodgers as the best record in baseball. It
Speaker 3: was Dave Roberts who made a decision to pinch hit
Speaker 3: Jay Hey at that moment, Key King.
Speaker 2: Rodney, Rodney Rodney, you know that people telepathically send him
Speaker 2: secret signals from upstairs and he doesn't do anything on
Speaker 2: his own.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know, I shouldn't be saying that, because that is
Speaker 3: the underlying secret of how it goes.
Speaker 1: That he is a robot down there in the.
Speaker 3: Dugout and doesn't make any decisions, but that that aside.
Speaker 1: Uh, you got to give credit.
Speaker 3: And if you saw the reaction of Dave Roberts after
Speaker 3: Jay Hay hit the home run, it was like, my man,
Speaker 3: my man.
Speaker 1: Came through for us. My man came through for us.
Speaker 1: And it was a good decision.
Speaker 3: Thank god you didn't strike out in that moment because
Speaker 3: I put you in there for a big moment and
Speaker 3: you and you delivered. But that you know that just
Speaker 3: it's one of the things that you know, you could
Speaker 3: have very well left kiy k in at that situation
Speaker 3: or brought somebody else or not done anything. But he
Speaker 3: brought him in a critical moment and you got to
Speaker 3: acknowledge that. And so I'm trying to acknowledge that for
Speaker 3: him because it was a big moment in the game,
Speaker 3: gave him the lead, big three run home run and
Speaker 3: catapulted them to the win. So hats off to Jay
Speaker 3: Hay in that moment. And that's hard to do for it.
Speaker 3: That is hard to do, look I And it's different
Speaker 3: because I got some relatability to it because a number
Speaker 3: of years in my NFL career I was a backup
Speaker 3: and to sit there on the bench for three quarters
Speaker 3: not doing anything, and then all of a sudden be
Speaker 3: thrust it into the game in the middle of it
Speaker 3: and the heat of battle. That's not an easy thing.
Speaker 3: That's a tough gig. I mean, a lot of people
Speaker 3: say backup quarterback is the best job in the world,
Speaker 3: and it is to a certain extent, But until you're
Speaker 3: thrust into a real situation after not taking any reps
Speaker 3: in practice all week long and sitting there on the
Speaker 3: on the sidelines and getting stiff, and then you got
Speaker 3: to go into the game and try to create a
Speaker 3: game winning drive at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: That is a tough tough deal.
Speaker 3: Same thing for a pinch hitter that's sitting there on
Speaker 3: the bench for seven innings and then get called upon
Speaker 3: to come in in the eighth. All right, we need
Speaker 3: you to get a big hit. Well, that's that's a
Speaker 3: tough tough thing to do, and you gotta be you
Speaker 3: gotta be made of something to be able to handle
Speaker 3: that and not let the moment be too big for you.
Speaker 3: So hats off to Jay, heads off to Dave Roberts
Speaker 3: and the Dodgers coachy town for making that moment and
Speaker 3: picking Jay Hay in that situation. And Jay, hey, all
Speaker 3: all hats go off to you for delivering in that moment.
Speaker 3: It was a great, great moment at Dodgers Dating last night.
Speaker 2: That was a moment that won the game, the moments
Speaker 2: that kept him in the game. Lux and Muncie again,
Speaker 2: Gavin Lux, who has been the hottest hitter on the
Speaker 2: Dodger since the All Star breaking and matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, if not the one of the
Speaker 2: hottest titters in baseball. And then Max Munsey again again
Speaker 2: going deep again. That's another thing again, Yeah, talk about
Speaker 2: how tough that is coming off. Max has been out
Speaker 2: with what since May? Yep, almost you know.
Speaker 3: And and I don't care if you're you know, you're
Speaker 3: in the cage, you're getting batting practice and or you're
Speaker 3: you're you know, you play a little bit in the
Speaker 3: minor leagues. It kind of attached from tune up games.
Speaker 3: It's still not the big league. You're still not hitting
Speaker 3: off big league pitching. And for Max to come back
Speaker 3: after two and a half months and back to back
Speaker 3: games hit home runs and that one last night read
Speaker 3: that was the Max Monsey. We love to see the
Speaker 3: bat flip the no doubter or into the dugout, I mean,
Speaker 3: into the bullpen. And him watching it go with the
Speaker 3: I mean the Maxi. Monsey's got the best bat flip
Speaker 3: in the league right now, and it beautiful to watch
Speaker 3: when he knows is gone and he flips that bad
Speaker 3: boy and he starts trotting around the bases. It's good
Speaker 3: to have him back. I mean, they're a note now.
Speaker 3: I mean, with Gavin Lux being on fire like he is.
Speaker 3: This is what we talked about at the beginning of
Speaker 3: the year. Fredh where's the weakness in that lineup? Where
Speaker 3: where are the weaknesses in that lineup? Now when you
Speaker 3: look at it no longer. Can you just look at
Speaker 3: at O, Tawny, Mookie and Freddy and go if I
Speaker 3: get through them and Will Smith, if I get through them,
Speaker 3: then I'm you know, I can I can cruise a
Speaker 3: little bit. No longer you can do that. With Max
Speaker 3: back and the way mon and the way Gavin Lux
Speaker 3: is hitting, you cannot do that. And you know you
Speaker 3: throw in taoscar along the way, who's mister clutch all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: It's a tough, tough lineup. All that being said, it
Speaker 2: was not an easy game. All that being said, and
Speaker 2: again it was the kind of game you're going to
Speaker 2: see in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Now you would think they'd kill Seattle because Seattle's not
Speaker 2: very good this year. But it doesn't matter. What does
Speaker 2: matter is it's a tight game and they come away
Speaker 2: with a win. That's what matters. These are playoff type
Speaker 2: games against a bad opponent here, but it's close. You've
Speaker 2: got to try to gut it out. You've got to
Speaker 2: try to come up with a big moment or a
Speaker 2: big hit.
Speaker 1: And they've done it now two games in a row.
Speaker 1: But you I think that's the telling tale here.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, Fred, It is exactly the games
Speaker 3: you're going to see in the playoffs. It's gonna be tight.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tight, and then there's gonna be a
Speaker 3: moment late in the game, and that's sixth inning and
Speaker 3: beyond that is going to be a pivotal moment and.
Speaker 1: Whether a team wins and loses.
Speaker 3: And I don't care if it's Seattle, I don't care
Speaker 3: if it's the White Sox. They are going to compete
Speaker 3: to a certain level, to a certain period of time
Speaker 3: in the particular game. When you look at that Seattle team,
Speaker 3: do they look like a horrible team to you? Playing
Speaker 3: the Dodgers last two nights. No, right, I mean, they're
Speaker 3: they're they're the worst hitting team in the league. But
Speaker 3: still they they have some guys that can hit the ball,
Speaker 3: and they came up with some hits. Now Walker Buehller
Speaker 3: struggled a little bit early on and gave up some
Speaker 3: walks that allowed it. But but again, they're not a
Speaker 3: horrible team. And the margin between the really good teams
Speaker 3: and the bad teams is not is not great. And
Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta and like we said, you gotta
Speaker 3: put teams away. And if you let even bad teams
Speaker 3: hang around a little bit, they're gonna try to fight
Speaker 3: you to win. If they think they got a chance
Speaker 3: to win, and it's in the sixth seventh inning, then
Speaker 3: they get all kinds of life. So it's it's gonna
Speaker 3: be dogfights along the way. And you're exactly right that
Speaker 3: these kind of games are gonna happen in the playoffs
Speaker 3: where there's gonna be a moment in that sixth seventh inning,
Speaker 3: eighth inning where it is going to decide who wins
Speaker 3: the game. A clutch hit, a big time strikeout, giving
Speaker 3: up a walk, or somebody throwing somebody out. And we're
Speaker 3: seeing that, and I think it's going to be a
Speaker 3: good thing. I think we're going to see that throughout
Speaker 3: the month of September where the Dodgers are going to
Speaker 3: be in some dogfights to to try to win the games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona and San Diego lurking ahead. You talk about
Speaker 2: Walker Buehler, Walker Bueller knows. Walker Bueller's got to be better.
Speaker 2: He acknowledges that he talked with Dylan Hernandez last night
Speaker 2: after the game about it another rough outing and there's
Speaker 2: no other way to put it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Remember before he went on the injured list this year,
Speaker 1: when he started the season, he struggled all right, then
Speaker 1: he took time off.
Speaker 2: He comes back, he's struggling. You can say that another
Speaker 2: Tommy John. It takes a long time to come back
Speaker 2: from that. But he acknowledges that this cannot be the
Speaker 2: way it's going to be. He gets it. He openly
Speaker 2: admits it, and he knows, whatever the definition of is,
Speaker 2: I got to get it together. He's got to get
Speaker 2: it together. He knows that he's got to go out
Speaker 2: and pitch pitching away to keep them in the game
Speaker 2: and gives him a chance to win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the thing. On that though, Fred I think
Speaker 3: that he's close. Right, it looks bad, but I think
Speaker 3: he's close, and I think he's pressing. You know, you
Speaker 3: saw him get a little frustrated with Ur. We'll talk
Speaker 3: about our umpire, who was had a interesting strike zone
Speaker 3: last night, but he got himself in trouble by the walks.
Speaker 3: He walked the bases loaded, and all it takes is
Speaker 3: a timely hit from one of those guys and it's
Speaker 3: two runs.
Speaker 1: You know, where he should have been out of the inning.
Speaker 3: Old Walker Buler would have gotten out of inning and
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't have walked.
Speaker 1: Two guys back to back.
Speaker 3: It's the little things about hitting your spots, and the
Speaker 3: more you get back acclimated to pitching again, the more
Speaker 3: you figure it out. Which is why I think they
Speaker 3: have to continue to trot him out there to kind
Speaker 3: of work through those those situational things that happen in baseball.
Speaker 3: Like in the first second, any of you can't give
Speaker 3: up walks, you can't give free passes and then let
Speaker 3: a good hit or come up to the plate with
Speaker 3: runners and scoring position, which he did last night, so
Speaker 3: Planco made him pay.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's got to get it together.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think they got to
Speaker 3: continue on him out there, Freddy and.
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts said after the game, basically, we're going to
Speaker 2: do that because we have no choice. We're kind of
Speaker 2: to this point now we've got no choice. He's got
Speaker 2: to go out there. So he's going to go out
Speaker 2: and you just hope you look at it as if
Speaker 2: he is an extended extended spring training, double extended spring training,
Speaker 2: working on things and trying to get those things together.
Speaker 2: Just one other note quickly before we get to C. B. Buckner.
Speaker 2: Tommy Edmund, Oh my god. That, oh my god, Like
Speaker 2: that's the real deal. You can put him anywhere. Remember
Speaker 2: he was a Gold Glove second baseman with Saint Louis
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, and uh, you can't play him anywhere,
Speaker 2: Andrew Friedman said, And David Vasse told us yesterday. On
Speaker 2: his wish list during the off season, one was Otani,
Speaker 2: two was Edmund and you can see why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was he was hurt. This is person this year, right,
Speaker 3: and and so they they thought enough of him to
Speaker 3: still sign him and bring him in knowing that he was, uh,
Speaker 3: he was injured. Because they they knew what kind of
Speaker 3: player he was and kind of character I think it was. Uh,
Speaker 3: somebody said it was Wainwright, right, and Wainwright who said
Speaker 3: he is he was the best teammate that he's ever had,
Speaker 3: and that he's the.
Speaker 1: Most well liked.
Speaker 3: Uh, well, he was always the most well liked person
Speaker 3: in the clubhouse. But yeah, I'm sorry he cut you off.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that play at short stop last night was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: It was a big time.
Speaker 1: Oh it was gold glove. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's not you know, he's not normally made
Speaker 3: by a guy that plays multiple positions. It's usually by
Speaker 3: a guy that is strictly a shortstop to makes those
Speaker 3: kind of plays, not a guy that plays second from
Speaker 3: time to time, plays center field from time to time,
Speaker 3: and then they put him in a short stop.
Speaker 1: No, it was a big time play.
Speaker 2: Now you can see why Dave Roberts said the minute
Speaker 2: they acquired him, he's going to play every day. We
Speaker 2: don't know where he's going to play every day, but
Speaker 2: he is going to be in the lineup every day.
Speaker 2: That was a huge upgrade. So what does that do
Speaker 2: for Piz and kier Meyer and those guys. Kier Meier
Speaker 2: I think is fine. Piz is in trouble. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think Piz is in trouble and it's going to be
Speaker 2: just a spot player from now on. Yeah, I think so. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because defensively he still can struggle. Yeah right, And he's
Speaker 2: he's a bonafid big league player, but he's not hitting
Speaker 2: three twenty. He's not hitting three hundred, he's not hitting
Speaker 2: two ninety. So it's not like you have to have
Speaker 2: his bat in the lineup. And when we get closer
Speaker 2: and we get into the playoffs, we know, this one
Speaker 2: miss you in the outfield, you could lose a whole series.
Speaker 2: So kier Meyer is this outstanding defender. Edmund is an
Speaker 2: outstanding defender. So I think Pie has is going to
Speaker 2: lose him playing time, but again not by his own doing.
Speaker 2: You didn't do anything wrong, which is tough because I
Speaker 2: liked his growth, right they they they chose him over
Speaker 2: over Outman. Obviously, you know Vargas is no longer here,
Speaker 2: but Pie has jumped on the scene and played like
Speaker 2: a veteran all season long.
Speaker 1: I liked his game.
Speaker 3: I just hope that it doesn't, you know, stifle his
Speaker 3: growth because I think with every week that he was
Speaker 3: getting a chance to play and play often he was
Speaker 3: getting better and now you know, but again, like you mentioned,
Speaker 3: now that we get close to crunch time and we're
Speaker 3: down the stretch and geading into the playoffs, you gotta
Speaker 3: you can't have one mistake can hurt you. And and
Speaker 3: you gotta have guys out there that that have been
Speaker 3: there and done that and that you can always always
Speaker 3: can on and that's gonna make big time plays like
Speaker 3: Kiermeyer and Edmund, they're gonna make the the they're gonna
Speaker 3: make the spectacular play, right, you know, and sometimes you're
Speaker 3: gonna need that, especially in the playoffs.
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Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: A C. B.
Speaker 2: Buckner was behind the plate tonight and I think during
Speaker 2: the game people got on their CBS and started screaming
Speaker 2: for help.
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Speaker 2: gonna be a great time. Ce B Buckner was the
Speaker 2: played umpire last night. He's a veteran, been around forever.
Speaker 2: It was reminiscent of Angel Hernandez. It was really that bad.
Speaker 2: It was as if he was watching a different game.
Speaker 2: He really struggled last night. Looks great in his uniform,
Speaker 2: very commanding presence.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, commanding presence. Saw him at you know, first
Speaker 3: base the other night and he looked very commanding in
Speaker 3: his uniform.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and seemingly a very nice guy. Buddy had a
Speaker 2: bad night. I mean he he is a walking poster
Speaker 2: for something's gotta change. With balls and strikes, I mean,
Speaker 2: it wasn't even close. It was a crap shoot. Every
Speaker 2: time you were at the plate, pitch could be a
Speaker 2: foot outside and be a strike. Next time it'd be
Speaker 2: a foot outside to be a ball. And it was
Speaker 2: noticeable it was obvious last night.
Speaker 1: And it was on both sides.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't like it was one side
Speaker 3: of either, it was both sides. I mean late in
Speaker 3: the game, Joe Kelly, uh, you know, clearly a strike
Speaker 3: and he and he called it, called it a ball,
Speaker 3: and then they called the strike on somebody else that
Speaker 3: came up for the Dodgers, and it was even a
Speaker 3: worse pitch than Joe Kelly's and he called he wrung
Speaker 3: wrung somebody up for it, and and Dave Ricy Date
Speaker 3: Roberts going crazy in the dugout.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was, he was all over the place.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's all you want sometimes, right Fred, You're
Speaker 3: a you're a former, you know, be consistent. You're giving
Speaker 3: up if you're gonna you know, you're gonna call the
Speaker 3: the outside corner, and you're gonna give a little generous
Speaker 3: call for the outside corner.
Speaker 1: Be that's that's who you are.
Speaker 3: But you can't give the outside corner and then also
Speaker 3: give the inside corner and also give the high and
Speaker 3: the low.
Speaker 1: You gotta be one way or the other.
Speaker 3: And because as a hitter, you know, okay, he's been
Speaker 3: generous on the outside, So I got to be aware
Speaker 3: of that, and I can adjust to that. But if
Speaker 3: you're generous on the outside and generous on the inside,
Speaker 3: then you're all over the place.
Speaker 1: And that's where he was he was last night.
Speaker 3: And it was some just crazy, crazy calls that he
Speaker 3: made throughout that game.
Speaker 2: And the issue became, he was generous on the outside,
Speaker 2: he was generous on the inside. Then he wasn't generous
Speaker 2: at all. Then there was no generosity. Yeah, then there
Speaker 2: was generosity.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like, yeah, he was generous. Then he
Speaker 3: squeezed everybody for three innings.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean it was one inning and I can't
Speaker 2: remember who it was. I think they punched a Mariner.
Speaker 2: He punched a Marender guy out on a low pitch
Speaker 2: for a strike. He punched him out. But when the
Speaker 2: Dodger was up there, it was the exact same place
Speaker 2: and it was a ball. I mean, let's just be honest.
Speaker 2: It was so bad.
Speaker 1: No more late in the game, right, did it change?
Speaker 3: He didn't give it to Joe Kelly, and then he
Speaker 3: punched the Dodger out, and then Joe Kelly being Joe Kelly,
Speaker 3: walks off the mountain and starts giving a Mariner dugout.
Speaker 2: Crap, he just started going after him. Oh he could
Speaker 2: challenge that. You want to challenge that because Joe Kelly
Speaker 2: didn't take crap from anybody. I don't care if he's
Speaker 2: an adventure or not out there, he does not take
Speaker 2: any crap from anybody. Which everybody's got to have that
Speaker 2: guy on their team, right, So he starts going after
Speaker 2: the h the Mariner dugout. And then that play in
Speaker 2: the ninth where the kid from Seattle down three runs
Speaker 2: tries to score. Yeah, he tries to score. Now, excuse me,
Speaker 2: that was idiotic. It was a terrible decision. Yes, there
Speaker 2: was no way he should have attempted that. Very fast,
Speaker 2: saw an opening, try to make a play, but he
Speaker 2: tries to score. So now there's a play at the
Speaker 2: plate and C. B. Buckner punches him out. So the
Speaker 2: minute Butckner punches him out, Scott Servis says, you know,
Speaker 2: let's put on those cans, let's find out, let's take
Speaker 2: a look. So then they start showing the replay on
Speaker 2: TV and his kid is safe.
Speaker 1: It's not even a question. The kid is safe. He's in.
Speaker 1: There is a question, go ahead, No, there's no question.
Speaker 1: He was safe.
Speaker 2: Safe Butner missed the call. Now, if Seattle scores that run,
Speaker 2: do they go on to win? Probably not, but it
Speaker 2: certainly helped. It was another out recorded by the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: so they're showing the play from multiple positions. The guy safe.
Speaker 2: Even when they show it in the stadium. Dave Roberts
Speaker 2: looks up and he was yeah, you know, that's a
Speaker 2: tough one. They turn around, they get the call from
Speaker 2: New York and they go the call is confirmed, he's out.
Speaker 2: What is that guy looking at back there? What in
Speaker 2: the world was he watching? How could you call him out?
Speaker 2: Because CB punched him out.
Speaker 1: The guy was safe.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe his hand was up all the air as
Speaker 3: the tag was out, just like Mookie's foot was up
Speaker 3: in the air when they tagged Mookie. And you know something,
Speaker 3: Mookie was out and he called him out and this
Speaker 3: guy was actually out and he was actually out, Yeah
Speaker 3: he was And was the guy out. When Doe Kelly
Speaker 3: picked the guy off at first base, he looked like
Speaker 3: he was out. Well, but they called him safe. It
Speaker 3: did look like he was out. Yeah, so you know what,
Speaker 3: New York looked at him said he was safe. In
Speaker 3: New York's By the way, New York's got more angles
Speaker 3: than we do. I heard no Mar say that. But
Speaker 3: you know something, well, I don't know what secret angle
Speaker 3: they could have had on those two plays because from
Speaker 3: the angles we had sitting right here, the calls were
Speaker 3: pretty clear.
Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of wiggle room. I mean, on
Speaker 2: that play at the plate, what did they have? What
Speaker 2: camera did they have? Because from the cameras we had here.
Speaker 1: The guy was safe and he called him out.
Speaker 3: And remember in the rebuilt, but that I can't I
Speaker 3: can't follow him on that one though, Fred, that's a
Speaker 3: bang bang play.
Speaker 1: That is very tight. Rodney, you don't think that's.
Speaker 3: A bang bang play with the kid coming around on
Speaker 3: the pass ball.
Speaker 2: I'm not you know what, I Am not going to
Speaker 2: criticize Buckner for that. No, that the bang bang play
Speaker 2: when you saw either way, and that's why they went
Speaker 2: to the replay. And even with the replay, they still
Speaker 2: called him. They still called him out even though you
Speaker 2: know a lot of us thought he was safe. But
Speaker 2: but it was such a bang bang Even Mookie's play
Speaker 2: was a bang bang play, and by first glance, even
Speaker 2: MOOKI thought he was safe, and everybody thought.
Speaker 1: He was safe.
Speaker 3: And then they replayed it and and Mooki's foot was up,
Speaker 3: was up in the air as as the tag was made,
Speaker 3: and and he was out. But those are bang bang
Speaker 3: plays where you know, as a as a as an umpire,
Speaker 3: you got you know, obviously you got to make a call. Uh,
Speaker 3: And those were tough and could have gone either way
Speaker 3: in those situations.
Speaker 1: I am not for those.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not criticizing Buckner for that call of
Speaker 2: the plate. Now criticize him for his balls and strikes
Speaker 2: because he had an awful night. Yeah, but that played,
Speaker 2: the plate went to review and it was abundantly clear
Speaker 2: that the kid was safe. That would have gone against
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. The point being, you go to replay, they've
Speaker 2: got angles. I didn't need any other camera because I
Speaker 2: saw what I needed to see the guy safe, and
Speaker 2: the replay official calls him out. And who makes that
Speaker 2: decision in the replay center an umpire? Yeah, you think
Speaker 2: he's protecting CEB that could have been.
Speaker 1: That was egregious. That was egregious.
Speaker 3: You think they're protect There's there's guys in New York
Speaker 3: that are you know, if it's close enough, we're going
Speaker 3: to protect the umps on the feel in their call.
Speaker 2: I would hope not. I would think maybe. But then
Speaker 2: that that draws into question who the replay official was
Speaker 2: and what are they doing back there? How could you
Speaker 2: miss that? I norma started laughing at that too. They're
Speaker 2: laughing mm hmmm. It's one thing when there's a bang
Speaker 2: bang play, the guy makes the you actually expected to
Speaker 2: go to review now I think they all do. That's
Speaker 2: why at the end of the play, if it's close,
Speaker 2: everybody takes pause and they look over at the dugout
Speaker 2: at the manager. All right, we're gonna check this or not,
Speaker 2: And a manager will spin his finger around and say
Speaker 2: play on, or you'll put on the headset gesture and
Speaker 2: say let's take a look. All right, So we know
Speaker 2: that already everybody expects it is not a surprise when
Speaker 2: that happens.
Speaker 1: We got that.
Speaker 2: So now we go there and you have the benefit
Speaker 2: of looking at it. You're not in a bang bang
Speaker 2: play situation. You can slow it down, you can look
Speaker 2: at it from multiple angles. And it's true oftentimes in
Speaker 2: the replay center they do have different camera or different
Speaker 2: camera angles than you have on television, fair point, But
Speaker 2: when the television angle shows you the guy is safe,
Speaker 2: then there's not gonna be an angle. It's gonna dispute
Speaker 2: that and Spectrum had multiple angles. And if that's the case,
Speaker 2: who in the world is making that decision in the
Speaker 2: replay center. We know it's an umpire. Yeah, but that
Speaker 2: that was bad, That was egregious. Yeah, And I thought
Speaker 2: the play at first base, I thought he was out.
Speaker 2: Mitya was clearly out. But maybe there was an angle
Speaker 2: that showed he got in there. Maybe there was an
Speaker 2: angle that showed that Will Smith clipped him on the
Speaker 2: on the arm before is our his hand touched home plate,
Speaker 2: and maybe his fingers were a little bit in the
Speaker 2: air fred as opposed to being underground. Maybe that's how
Speaker 2: close they got it.
Speaker 3: But I you know, clearly both of those looked like
Speaker 3: they on both of those plays, the one at first
Speaker 3: base on the pickoff with Joe Kelly and then the
Speaker 3: one at at the end of the game with the
Speaker 3: kid man and poor kid. Because now if he's safe,
Speaker 3: then it did the it lightens the blow a little bit.
Speaker 3: But if he's now the fact that he was out
Speaker 3: and now he's now he's getting rained by his manager
Speaker 3: and everybody else in the team's like, what the hell
Speaker 3: do you go, you stay there at third base. You
Speaker 3: don't take that chance. It's just a it's just a
Speaker 3: bonehead play. Don't ever do that again. But if he's safe,
Speaker 3: it's like, hey, listen, don't do that again. I know
Speaker 3: you were saying, but don't do that. It's not as
Speaker 3: as harsh, so it's.
Speaker 1: Bad for him. But yeah, now both of those plays
Speaker 1: look like that. The kid was out at first, and
Speaker 1: then it was safe at home.
Speaker 3: And and they got it wrong in the replay booth
Speaker 3: in New York. And again, were they protecting the umpires
Speaker 3: who made the call on the field by it's so close,
Speaker 3: we'll just go with the umpire and and and not
Speaker 3: show them up. The one gotta believe that's happened. There's
Speaker 3: a fraternity obviously with them, and they want to protect
Speaker 3: them all. But that would both of those I agree
Speaker 3: with you. Both of those were kind of they were
Speaker 3: bad because it's to our eyes if we.
Speaker 1: Saw one thing and we saw it clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't And there are other angles, but don't use
Speaker 2: that when it's clear. When it's clear, you don't need
Speaker 2: another angle. And then that calls into question, what are
Speaker 2: they doing with replay if you can't get it straight
Speaker 2: from replay. Now you have a problem because now you
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. You know, I always say,
Speaker 2: we can't know more watching than the people on the field.
Speaker 2: We can't. That doesn't make any sense. So then we
Speaker 2: have replay. All right, let's go to replay. So with
Speaker 2: our own eyes, we saw what happened. How can we
Speaker 2: know more than the guy making the decision watching replay?
Speaker 1: That makes absolutely no sense. I think they need to
Speaker 1: start listening.
Speaker 2: Who the replay official is, play umpire, who's in the
Speaker 2: replay center?
Speaker 1: What umpire is assigned to that?
Speaker 2: And then do we have to question the decision of
Speaker 2: a replay official when it's just as egregious as it was?
Speaker 2: Has it really come down to we got to replay?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: We got to question the replay call. Is it one
Speaker 3: guy there in the replay center in New York?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: Is it one guy or is it a you know,
Speaker 3: a committee of two or three people that are looking
Speaker 3: at it and they come to an agreement. Hey, this
Speaker 3: all of us could come together in New York and
Speaker 3: there's three of us looking at this thing.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? What do you guys think?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, he's out or is it just one umpire
Speaker 3: that looks at it and says, Okay, I'm gonna confirm
Speaker 3: this or I'm gonna overturn it.
Speaker 1: I believe it's one umpire.
Speaker 3: This one guy per team per game, I mean one
Speaker 3: guy per game, right.
Speaker 2: There might be one in there that looks at all
Speaker 2: of them for all. No, it can't be.
Speaker 3: It can't be because so many games are going on
Speaker 3: simultaneously that it can't be just one guy. Otherwise there
Speaker 3: would be so many delays. Oh wait a minute, we
Speaker 3: gotta we got to call from Arizona, we got to
Speaker 3: call from LA we got to call from San Francisco,
Speaker 3: we gotta make a RISISICI. And there's one guy who's
Speaker 3: got to review all three of them at the same time. Now,
Speaker 3: it's got to be more than one.
Speaker 2: I still maintain who would I have made those decisions.
Speaker 2: I'd put like twenty five year old kids in there
Speaker 2: operating the equipment, looking at it and just going outer safe.
Speaker 1: Simple.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want somebody who may have a vested
Speaker 2: interest that his buddy is working that game.
Speaker 1: You just can't. It's unexplainable. You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't even put your get your mind around it.
Speaker 2: They just missed it and it.
Speaker 1: Went Hey, it helped the Dodgers, good, But what if
Speaker 1: that went against the Dodgers? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, look.
Speaker 3: Again, we don't I don't know what happens back there
Speaker 3: in the replay booth. But I gotta believe in that
Speaker 3: they're they're If they're ump, then they've got a little
Speaker 3: bit of sensitivity to the guys actually on the field
Speaker 3: calling the game. And if it's close, and if it's
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's that close where it's can be
Speaker 3: visualized as going either way. They're going to side with
Speaker 3: the guy that called it on the field, Okay, And
Speaker 3: let's say you're right. As it turned out that plate
Speaker 3: the play wasn't even close.
Speaker 1: He was safe. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Jeff and Data Point. Are you there?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, data.
Speaker 2: Point is really really pretty. You know, I'd love Data Point.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like do you live in Data Point?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I'm in data okay? By high School? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like a step child to Laguna Beach
Speaker 2: or do you believe Dana Point is where it's happening.
Speaker 4: I think Dana Point is where it's happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I think it's one of the hidden gems.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you.
Speaker 4: You got Ohana coming up to a pretty big schedule
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's great. Down there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for you. All right, we're gonna play. No,
Speaker 2: your squad. Squad is the Lakers. Give you a question
Speaker 2: of five choices. Answer before I give you all five choices.
Speaker 1: You're locked out.
Speaker 2: You have a challenge. Use your challenge. It's upheld. Your
Speaker 2: retainna use your challenge. It's tonight. You are locked out
Speaker 2: of the next question. You got it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it?
Speaker 1: All right, Ronnie? You ready? Greetings, Rogan and Rodney. I
Speaker 1: am ready to play. Let's go to work.
Speaker 2: Lakers won their first title in LA after the seventy
Speaker 2: one to seventy two season. Who was their leading scorer
Speaker 2: in that NBA Finals series went over New York with
Speaker 2: an average of twenty five point six points per game.
Speaker 2: Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, Leroy Ellis, Gail Goodrich or B. F.
Speaker 2: Goodrich Goodrich Gale Goodrich is correct? And Ronnie sorry, he
Speaker 2: beat me just two seconds. Yeah, Ronnie gotcha. Okay, good job, Ronnie.
Speaker 2: Here's the next one. Lebron James fled the Lakers and
Speaker 2: scoring in his first season with a team in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: Who was a Lakers' second leading scorer that season, Brandon
Speaker 2: Ingram contagious called well.
Speaker 3: Pat, wait, wait, Lebron James first season with the Lakers
Speaker 3: was in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: Let's talk to Adam Adam.
Speaker 4: Is that correct about right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen was his last year.
Speaker 1: That last summer he was with Cleveland.
Speaker 4: That next season starts up twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen seasons
Speaker 4: with the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Okay, just check it. So is this Rodney locked out
Speaker 1: or what it was like.
Speaker 3: A long time he's been with the Lakers. Didn't feel
Speaker 3: like that though, No, No, it was just a question.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot. I didn't answer. I just was
Speaker 1: just asking. All right, we cleared it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he should be locked out?
Speaker 1: Okayol Woa gold Blood.
Speaker 3: Data point, Jeff, he said it, point point. Don't care
Speaker 3: nothing about what do you call it?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: What's the place down there? Coda, Dekaza or whoever else
Speaker 3: is down there? They don't care none about want Capistrano.
Speaker 3: All them down there is all about Dana. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: hell with them all is data point.
Speaker 1: I like it. All right, let's let's go again.
Speaker 2: Bron James led the Lakers in scoring in his first
Speaker 2: season with a team in twenty eighteen. Who was the
Speaker 2: lakers second leading scorer that season, Brandon Ingram Contavious called, well,
Speaker 2: pop Lonzo ball, Kyle Kuzma or Kyle Chandler, Kyle kuz
Speaker 2: It's correct, Nie, Ronnie gets in that.
Speaker 1: That sound like that before him? I got a delay, Rodney, Rodney,
Speaker 1: don't you? Rodney me jump to say, do you do
Speaker 1: you really think you got in ahead of him?
Speaker 3: I do, I do believe that. But you know, Jesus,
Speaker 3: the way it goes that, don't we send it to
Speaker 3: the twenty five year olds to review this play.
Speaker 1: Let's move on, all right, move on? Okay, twenty five
Speaker 1: year olds?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Fred wants in the booth in New York
Speaker 3: to call balls and strikes and outs for Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3: He wants to put twenty five years old in there.
Speaker 3: Millennials that just are are tech friendly guys.
Speaker 1: They would miss it too, Fred, because they'd always be
Speaker 1: on their phones. Where's the rim shot? That was big?
Speaker 1: That was good? That was good? All right, here's the
Speaker 1: next one.
Speaker 2: Who holds the team record for most turnovers in a
Speaker 2: single season with three hundred and fourteen. Nick Van Exell,
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook, Kareem abdul Jabbar, Magic Johnson or Boris Johnson,
Speaker 2: Magic Johnson, Westbrook, Magic Johnson is correct.
Speaker 1: I believe that. I see. I thought it was all right,
Speaker 1: we'll booth it, are we. I thought it was Rodney, Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought it was Rodney too. I thought it was Ronnie.
Speaker 1: All right, wait Rodney, I did. But this is close,
Speaker 1: very close. Booth it, booth it. Let's try it.
Speaker 2: Send it to the twenty five year olds.
Speaker 1: Westbrook, Jabbar, Magic Johnson or Boris Johnson, mag Johnson. I
Speaker 1: got him Johnson, mag Johnson.
Speaker 2: I got him, I got him.
Speaker 1: I got him. You know what I think? Rodney got him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it. He edged him out. I got him.
Speaker 1: All right. Here's the next little bit.
Speaker 2: I got you, Ronnie that time a little bit, all right.
Speaker 2: Elmore Smith, Yeah you gotta got one. Jeff Elmore Smith
Speaker 2: holds a team record for average blocks per game in
Speaker 2: a single season with four point nine.
Speaker 1: Who Elmore Smith, Elmore Smith.
Speaker 3: You don't remember Elmore Smith, I don't remember any Elmore spec.
Speaker 1: On his name here, Jesus for a second.
Speaker 2: With an average four point one blocks per game in
Speaker 2: a single season while wearing a Laker uniform, Well Chamberlain,
Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neill Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Dwight Howard or Dwight Shrek No,
Speaker 2: uh Well Chamberlain, no, Dwight Howard, no, uh no, Will Chamberlain, No,
Speaker 2: Sequille O'Neill, Kareem up Jabbar.
Speaker 1: Rodney Kareem Crimus was left.
Speaker 2: Two questions ago were tied Rodney and Ronnie. Come on, Jeff,
Speaker 2: let's get this one. Who was the franchise later in
Speaker 2: career steals with one, thy nine and forty four? Magic Johnson,
Speaker 2: James Worthy, Kobe Bryant, Michael Cooper or Winnie Cooper Michael Johns.
Speaker 1: Wrecked and it is Rodney Nie. I don't even need
Speaker 1: to check that. Oh, Ronnie, you want to booth it? No, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't booth it because you got that one.
Speaker 2: I believe Rodney got it, never lost exactly. Except here's
Speaker 2: your final question. Who holds a team record for most
Speaker 2: free throws made in a single season with eight forty
Speaker 2: s Quille O'Neill, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Will Chamberlain, Jerry West
Speaker 2: or Jerry Springer, Jerry Jeffy Very West.
Speaker 1: Ronney got it first. Ronnie got it first.
Speaker 2: Yelling did Rodney's sitting at the edge of his chair,
Speaker 2: waiting to just jump through the screen there yelling.
Speaker 1: Didn't he didn't know it didn't.
Speaker 2: Rodney got it first, that insane.
Speaker 1: No, Ronnie got it. Ronny went way to go. Good job,
Speaker 1: thank you, Fred, Oh darn it.
Speaker 4: Okay you guys, thanks for playing.
Speaker 1: Hey, well, thank you.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: He just dismounted himself. He pulled the rip cord on
Speaker 1: his own. All right, there goes jeff A right, I said,
Speaker 1: point and five.
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