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<v Speaker 1>Thank y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Ripped up new need advice when you don't happen, come

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<v Speaker 2>running's just as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna help com.

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<v Speaker 3>Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Tom Martino, Hey, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Three oh three seven one three talk seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, wait a minute, what what's going on here? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>welcome to the show. We're here to help you in

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<v Speaker 4>We want to solve problems, answer questions, taking plaints, make.

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<v Speaker 1>Your life a little easier.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh, I think Major Mark Major might be remote today.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know Demark, I haven't heard are you on?

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<v Speaker 4>And I know I don't see his ugly face on camera.

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<v Speaker 4>So welcome to people to the show. It is the

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<v Speaker 4>Troubleshooter Show where we troubleshoot things. We solve problems, we

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<v Speaker 4>answer questions, we take complaints.

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<v Speaker 1>We really do a lot to help people, if we can. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Logan's with us from plumb Line Services. They do

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<v Speaker 4>a lot to help people. Of course, people call them

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<v Speaker 4>when they're already in trouble, which is the wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing to do. By the way I always tell people,

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<v Speaker 1>call before you need help, Call before you need help.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>That means like, we all know we're gonna have cold snaps,

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<v Speaker 4>call when it's not cold to get things checked. We

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<v Speaker 4>all know we're gonna have a wet season. Make sure

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<v Speaker 4>you're some pumps and everything's working. We all know we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have hot season. Make sure your seat's working.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Bob, I swear to you if we could

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<v Speaker 1>just get people to do things just away from the crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>the way from the crowd.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you have to say about that? I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>go ahead, sir, You're absolutely right, Tom. And you know

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<v Speaker 5>if people understood this. You know, everybody knows you're supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to take your car in for service every so many miles.

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<v Speaker 5>If they did that with their furnace and AC, their

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<v Speaker 5>plumbing electrical system, it would save every homeowner thousands and thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>And people feel pressured and make dumb decisions, and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's usually when they have not done things ahead of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that easy?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't get it. They just don't do

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<v Speaker 4>things ahead of time. So Bob, right now, what would

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<v Speaker 4>you be doing. I'd be working on my AC. I

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<v Speaker 4>would make sure that you're there's no rush if they

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<v Speaker 4>need anything. You guys aren't rushing around with a heat wave.

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<v Speaker 5>No exactly. And you think, well, it's March, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>going to use my air conditioner for at least two

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<v Speaker 5>or three months. Well, that's the best time to do anything.

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<v Speaker 5>So like we got a great special seventy nine dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll check out your entire air conditioning system. Make sure

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<v Speaker 5>it's going to be ready so when you do need it,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't have to worry about it. When it gets

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<v Speaker 5>really hot. You won't be fighting the crowds.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Bob Logan plumb Line Services three h three

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<v Speaker 4>five A six ten eighty six Plumbline Services dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go to the phones.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, people say, Tom, sometimes when you

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<v Speaker 4>have guests on, it sounds like you're doing a commercial. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>it does a lot of things I do here sound

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<v Speaker 4>like a commercial. But what is a commercial. A commercial

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<v Speaker 4>is a paid advertisement to put out a message, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and people have very little choice about paid commercials. On

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<v Speaker 4>this show, we have a lot of choice. We can

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<v Speaker 4>reject them because if they're not good people. But the

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<v Speaker 4>stuff you hear on the show is not a paid commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people we invite here because of expertise and

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<v Speaker 1>things I talk about that I think is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 6>No one's paying me to say that Chris has a

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<v Speaker 6>problem with a trailer. Chris, let's go back to your

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<v Speaker 6>call here and what was your original problem?

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, let's continue because I don't see the notes here,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Hi, Tom, longtime listener. I had a trailer jack

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<v Speaker 7>knife and overturn. I was going to at the trailer

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<v Speaker 7>turned back over, but the storage container I was hauling

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<v Speaker 7>needed to be towed and it's currently sitting in a record.

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<v Speaker 1>When did it? When did when did a jack knife?

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<v Speaker 7>It was the end of January?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? And was it your fault?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? What happened is I had a a tire team

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<v Speaker 7>malfunction and it caused me to slide slide back down

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<v Speaker 7>a hill and and cause the trailer to jack knife

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<v Speaker 7>and then lose the container I was hauling.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So when you say you lost the container, what

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<v Speaker 4>do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 7>It basically over the trailer overturned and the the container

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<v Speaker 7>that I was hauling was then ended up being on

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<v Speaker 1>And uh on the mountains so okay, so what is

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<v Speaker 1>your question?

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<v Speaker 7>So question is is that Progressive is uh not covering

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<v Speaker 7>the toe and and the storage fees.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're not covering what part of it? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>what are they not covering the tow? You mean towing

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<v Speaker 4>your trailer that was overturned?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was. I was able to get the trailer

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<v Speaker 7>overturned and and hook back up the vehicle, but it

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<v Speaker 7>was a container. I wasn't able to get back on

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<v Speaker 7>the on the trailer and so okay, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then what is it what is Progressive not paying?

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<v Speaker 7>They're not paying for the towing of the container.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they paid for everything except when you say

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<v Speaker 1>towing of the container. Where was that container towed?

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<v Speaker 7>It's uh, it's currently housed in wrecking yard in Idaho Springs.

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<v Speaker 1>But where was it towed from the scene of the

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<v Speaker 1>accident to a from storage yard?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yeah, it's from the scene of the app Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's the part, that's the part you wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>pay for. Was the stuff and the container destroyed.

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<v Speaker 7>There was nothing in the container. It was just an

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<v Speaker 7>empty container.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay. So what was that charged to toe that?

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<v Speaker 7>It was five thousand to get it up onto a

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<v Speaker 7>tow truck and then two thousand dollars in storage fees corrently.

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<v Speaker 1>Five thousand plus two thousand.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Had you had to have it have the container retrieved

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<v Speaker 1>and brought to a like it was an empty container.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the rush.

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<v Speaker 7>The rush was to get it off the mountain road

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<v Speaker 7>so nobody would hit it or get into another accident.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had to have the container retrieved and towed

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<v Speaker 1>to storage.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Now that's a pretty easy thing to figure out.

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<v Speaker 4>I have Brian burns On with us from Compass Insurance Group.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian is our insurance expert as well as an excellent

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<v Speaker 4>broker for people the Insurance Help Center dot com or

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<v Speaker 4>Compass Insurance. Brian, this is a matter of policy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're towing something. Let's just say I'm towing something.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm asking you, Brian, me, not this guy. I'm driving

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<v Speaker 4>down the street and I'm towing something. Let's say I

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<v Speaker 4>rented a U haul and it jackknife and hurts my car.

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<v Speaker 1>What's paid for? What's not? And the U haul trailers destroyed?

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<v Speaker 1>What happens?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So usually a trailer, your car would still be covered,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, because it's insured. Trailers are only covered for

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<v Speaker 8>physical damage for the damage to the trailer themselves. If

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<v Speaker 8>they are insured, they have to actually have insurance for

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<v Speaker 8>physical damage. The liability that comes from the trailer. If

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<v Speaker 8>the trailer runs into another car, that extends from your autopulse,

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<v Speaker 8>so the liability automatically extends while it's attached. The thing

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<v Speaker 8>about this one is a little unique is obviously it's

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<v Speaker 8>it's the container that was being poled. It's not the trailer.

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<v Speaker 8>It's if I understand correctly, it's something that Yeah, so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was going to go there.

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<v Speaker 4>So he had a trailer, and this is your trailer, right, Chris,

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<v Speaker 4>So your trailer's being covered, your your vehicle's being covered

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<v Speaker 4>rental trailer.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was a rental trailer that I had a

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<v Speaker 7>damaged waiver on. So that that part's covered through the

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<v Speaker 7>rental company, got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then and then your vehicle's covered. And so

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<v Speaker 4>the only thing not covered is this container. What I

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<v Speaker 4>want to know is this, Why do you feel your

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<v Speaker 4>vehicle insurance should pay for a container that was on

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<v Speaker 4>a rented trailer. I'm curious what brings that up to

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<v Speaker 4>begin with, why do you believe they're responsible for that?

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<v Speaker 1>To begin with, a.

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<v Speaker 7>Part of the accident that happened, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Brian, it was part of the accident, so he's

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<v Speaker 4>expecting this.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you hold on?

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like to get some explanations on this. Hang on, Chris,

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<v Speaker 4>so what happens? I mean, we are confused about coverage.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I am not on regular coverage, but stuff

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<v Speaker 4>like this.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I had my car.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's hit and I had some expensive tools in

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<v Speaker 4>the car, are they covered? Or I have something in

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<v Speaker 4>the trunk a knee bike I don't know really, or

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<v Speaker 4>on a trailer hitch. We'll examine this and more coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>Three O three seven one three talks seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>eight two five five. So going back to this scenario,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll bring up Mark in the Gang in a minute. Here, Mark,

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<v Speaker 4>you can chime in it in chime. But those streaming

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<v Speaker 4>the show, I don't even want to hear from you,

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<v Speaker 1>And whenever we stream this show on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>I love my morons, but they have this sneaky suspicion.

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<v Speaker 4>They run the show, and I don't know where the

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<v Speaker 4>hell they got it, but they have all their comments.

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<v Speaker 4>They tell me what to do and how to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>They tell me how I look, if I look better good.

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<v Speaker 4>They complain about my breathing or my sniffling, and I

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<v Speaker 4>do have some sniffles today. But it's amazing to me.

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<v Speaker 4>They're my directors. And they're morons. So I have a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of morons. And then the downloaders are different. They

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<v Speaker 4>write to me after the fact because we have not hundreds,

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<v Speaker 4>a month, and they're downloading this show at all different times.

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<v Speaker 4>And markle get comments from something we talked about three

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<v Speaker 4>our insurance experts we use a lot. In fact, Brian,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I had a question for you over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>And Brian, what is covered in damn car? When I

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<v Speaker 4>and what's not covered?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay? So personal property is not going to be covered

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<v Speaker 8>orneath an auto policy. So the vehicle, the auto insurance

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<v Speaker 8>is there to cover the car, anything you're carrying or

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<v Speaker 8>anything inside the car. You're common about an e bike

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<v Speaker 8>or whatever it might be, would be if you're running

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<v Speaker 8>coverage for that, you'd have to look at your property insurance.

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<v Speaker 8>This is a bit different because it's not whatever the container.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sure the container could be covered by his home insurance,

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<v Speaker 8>but I don't see the home insurance covering for storage

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<v Speaker 8>or retrieval of the of the of this whatever it

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<v Speaker 8>was the container that fell off of the trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's just this container that had nothing in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't have to do ye.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I don't know if they containers got anything.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, the auto policy doesn't, but he could get coverage

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<v Speaker 8>for his home policy potentially if if he owns the

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<v Speaker 8>container his personal property.

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<v Speaker 9>I guess you could look there.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't.

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<v Speaker 8>I obviously don't probably worth a claim.

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<v Speaker 7>On the web side.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're not talking about damage to it. What about

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking about the going of it, the retrieving of it.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, And I don't see, I mean, I'm I don't

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<v Speaker 8>see how that would be covered underneath either policy.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so chrishost it was a rented trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it was rented.

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<v Speaker 7>It was a rented trailer, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Your container?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I owned the the container.

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<v Speaker 1>How long have you owned it?

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<v Speaker 7>I bought it at auction let's see late October.

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<v Speaker 1>How much did you pay for it?

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe a hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen hundred? Yeah, and you want them to pay how

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<v Speaker 1>much for retrieval and storage?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I think the toe company is charging me is about

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<v Speaker 7>seven thousand?

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<v Speaker 1>Well give it. I think he's screwed.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't way to get coverage for this.

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<v Speaker 8>I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mark, why do you what do you? What do youtive?

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<v Speaker 12>My perspective, Mark, what's your perspective? The homeowners isn't going

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<v Speaker 12>has homeowners. But if he doesn't have homeowners, I don't

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<v Speaker 12>see any coverage coming from the auto because it's a

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<v Speaker 12>content and believe it or not, because it was on

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this container, man, it's not even worth They're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to pay more for the towing and storage in

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<v Speaker 4>the cars. Like let's say it was a car, same thing, right, Brian,

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<v Speaker 4>even if there was coverage, WO wouldn't cover it. Even

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<v Speaker 4>if there was coverage, it would be put off at

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to be coverage, Chris.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's what would be covered, is the actual item.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, and in this case that's sixteen hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh, they're not going to.

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<v Speaker 8>Cover for for you know, the storage or the retrieval

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<v Speaker 8>of it. I just I don't see in a policy

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<v Speaker 8>where you could find language that would would cover that

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<v Speaker 8>kind of loss, not for not for personal property. Right,

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<v Speaker 8>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chris, you better what what are they saying they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do if you don't pay this, take the container, let.

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<v Speaker 7>Them have it. Really want to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it container all destroyed? Is it? Is it boogers?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's it is damaged.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, man, you got a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>But then when you say a container, when you it

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<v Speaker 4>was a container, is it kind of like a u

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<v Speaker 1>Up or is it like a bed of a truck?

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<v Speaker 1>How big is it?

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's about an eight by thirteen and it's a

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<v Speaker 7>military container that expands out to thirteen by twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it like corrugated steel? Yes, it is like a train,

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<v Speaker 1>like a small train car.

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<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't say it's that big, but it does weigh

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<v Speaker 7>about forty like four thousand pounds forty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna have to negotiate with them. You're you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to negotiate with them. Seriously. You have no

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<v Speaker 7>From what I think from auto or homeowners, not for

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<v Speaker 7>what you're looking for, not not for for storage and

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<v Speaker 7>retrieval of personal property. It's just it's it's just a

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<v Speaker 7>very strange loss, Like it's the actual you know, the

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<v Speaker 7>actual container could have coverage possibly, but I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 7>a home policy is I have a much higher deductible.

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<v Speaker 8>And on the auto side, I don't there.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't see anywhere you would get a coverage for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see it either. I don't see it either.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, I'm sorry about that, Chris three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 4>Burns does an insurance check up in like three sentences

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<v Speaker 4>or less.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us what that is.

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<v Speaker 8>So you send us your declaration pages and a few

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, here's what I love about this.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't lie because if you say, hey, you got

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<v Speaker 4>a bad deal, then I'd say, okay, Brian, beat it.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you can't beat it, then I can't have

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<v Speaker 1>You we can do better unless we can do better.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you want to free insurance check up three

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<v Speaker 4>Brian Burns and this family. Okay, so a CMG financial

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, morons. You deserve better than this.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's go over some of those. And meanwhile, if

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<v Speaker 4>Three oh three seven one three talks seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>eight two five five. So something happened with a Social

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<v Speaker 4>Security payment mark you took. Someone assessed his debit card

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<v Speaker 4>on Social Security and he was his debit card was closed.

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<v Speaker 4>He was sent another one, but he didn't activate the

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<v Speaker 4>new one and when he checked the balance, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>It's way worse than that. DOC is working on that one.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Doc, can you give us an update. First of all, doc,

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<v Speaker 4>am I summarizing this correctly? Money kept going missing out

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, here's this.

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<v Speaker 13>Eye spoke to his friend Alice if taking care of it.

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<v Speaker 13>I spoke on Friday and she was going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get back to me.

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<v Speaker 13>I left two messages. We were not able to get

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<v Speaker 13>in touch over the weekend, so I will try it

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<v Speaker 13>again this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I gave us some advice. Clear that it does.

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<v Speaker 1>How can a new card get hacked? The old one

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<v Speaker 1>got hacked, he sent the new one. How does that?

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<v Speaker 13>I'm trying to get all the details, Tom, I don't

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<v Speaker 13>have all the details. So give me a twenty four

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, that's fine. But you know, why

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<v Speaker 4>do people choose the debit card. I don't understand that part, man,

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<v Speaker 13>Because you can't get hit with late fees or interests.

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<v Speaker 1>You only can take out as much as you have

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<v Speaker 1>in your account. You can't overdraw it. So people rather

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<v Speaker 1>have a debit card for their payment, and that's what

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<v Speaker 13>Well, if you know that if you have a credit card,

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<v Speaker 13>you can charge more than you can afford. If you

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<v Speaker 13>have in the bank to cover it. You can't overdraw

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<v Speaker 1>So he has direct deposit and then the debit card

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<v Speaker 12>I figure out there, no, no, no, it loads right

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<v Speaker 12>onto that card. Guys, Oh it does, Yes, it loads

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<v Speaker 12>right onto the card. Is my complete understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I never knew about that option. Okay. They

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<v Speaker 1>do this three so it's like unemployment. It's done a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so thanks to somebody wanted to know about that one.

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<v Speaker 4>Then there was an auto shop and uh from Wilma,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't have many notes on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody recall that?

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<v Speaker 4>Then we have a Tiffany's husband passed away and she

436
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<v Speaker 4>moved and rented out the house. Rented it for three months,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the tenants said they wanted to move out

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<v Speaker 4>due to toxic mold.

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<v Speaker 1>They filed the lawsuit against her. Anybody knows this Mark?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you recall what happened with that? Was it that Friday?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a widow the sixth? I don't remember that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Say it again, what was it? Tiffany is a widow? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I know all about the U Yes, okay, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know about it? Is her hustible Well, her.

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<v Speaker 4>Husband passed away, and her husband passed away, and she

446
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<v Speaker 4>moved out of their family home and rented it out,

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<v Speaker 4>and now the tenants are suing her for.

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<v Speaker 12>Toxic well, the tenants are shaking her down. Basically, they're

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<v Speaker 12>going to file a lawsuit. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 12>been filed yet. We're kind of waiting for them to

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<v Speaker 12>file it. Well, that's not true. They actually did file it,

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<v Speaker 12>but she hasn't received a copy of it yet, so

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<v Speaker 12>we don't know how much they're asking for. Our guesses

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<v Speaker 12>between fifty and one hundred. They're saying because she was

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<v Speaker 12>negligent in her rental house and allowed mold to grow,

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<v Speaker 12>that they have some issues, so they want their rent

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<v Speaker 12>money back and some money for health. But once again,

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<v Speaker 12>until we actually see a copy of the lawsuit. The

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<v Speaker 12>biggest problem was she has no insurance. Typically you would

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<v Speaker 12>hand this over to your homeowners, but the problem was

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<v Speaker 12>when she moved out of that primary residence and rented

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<v Speaker 12>it out, she never changed her coverage to a tenant

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<v Speaker 12>landlord's situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's going to be denying. Wait a minute, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we may we may want to ask we already had

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<v Speaker 1>them on for it. What did he say? He said

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't cover they would deny on that behalf.

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<v Speaker 12>And then the second part is there's probably stuff in

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<v Speaker 12>her policy about mold in general. She's gonna be shooken down,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, she's it's a total shakedown in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 12>total shakedown.

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<v Speaker 1>But in telling you that, next little bob Logan on something,

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<v Speaker 1>bob Logan, I'm going to bring you up right now

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<v Speaker 1>in your you're on your can. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, guys come across mold a lot, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>lotter mediation and a lot of leak detection and fixing,

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<v Speaker 1>and do you come across mold and.

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<v Speaker 11>What do you do you or not?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we really don't, Tom Surprisingly, we don't being

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<v Speaker 5>in the in that business opening up walls with leaks

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<v Speaker 5>and everything. Typically when people call us though, it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>because of an active leak and uh, you know, as

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<v Speaker 5>you know mold it needs to after a while, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>And he's the continual, continual drip or leak, usually not

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<v Speaker 5>from a pressurized pipe because you know, it's usually a

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<v Speaker 5>leaky valve or something like that behind the wall and

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<v Speaker 5>h but it also needs oxygen.

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<v Speaker 4>To Okay, well you don't really come across that, which

489
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<v Speaker 4>we really don't because I was thinking, and I know

490
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<v Speaker 4>that Genesis Total Exteriors does it.

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<v Speaker 1>They do a great job. They do, you know this

492
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<v Speaker 1>mold remediation and detection Genesis Tootalexteriors dot Com, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and he does that in conjunction with his construction business

494
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<v Speaker 1>because he does kitchens and baths and basements.

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<v Speaker 4>He does outside siding stucco. So when he comes, he

496
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<v Speaker 4>was coming across mold and then he'd watch these people

497
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<v Speaker 4>come in and rip their faces off. So he decided,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, I'm here anyway, I'm gonna help. And

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<v Speaker 4>what an excellent adjunct. But I believe it would be

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<v Speaker 4>an adjunct to a number of businesses, and one of

501
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<v Speaker 4>them is plumbing, heat and cooling, electric and draints. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a natural adjunct in my opinion, uh, to that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of business. I'm not suggesting how you run your business.

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<v Speaker 5>There's remediation companies that specialize in you know, fire, smoke, mold,

505
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<v Speaker 5>water damage, and really they're the companies that take care

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<v Speaker 5>of that after the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but you said, what you're saying is, I

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're saying, but it gets sick to what

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can.

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<v Speaker 5>Do, and we just don't run into it.

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<v Speaker 1>That off, Okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>So in any case, bottom line is when it comes

513
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<v Speaker 4>to this kind of stuff, it really.

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<v Speaker 1>It really gets out of hand, it does.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, when somebody discovers mold, it's almost like and

516
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<v Speaker 4>it all happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know when it all started? Do you remember

518
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<v Speaker 1>the case Mark? I always talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>You remember who it was? That's right, Ed McMahon. I

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<v Speaker 4>believe he was living It might have been his house

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<v Speaker 4>in California. But Ed McMahon has some mold problems and

522
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<v Speaker 4>went to court and sued the company and won, and

523
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<v Speaker 4>then after that all hell broke loose. If you had mold,

524
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<v Speaker 4>you went and sued. And so that's what this family's doing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know a lot of tenants are I look this up.

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<v Speaker 4>That is one of the number one lawsuits tenants have

527
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<v Speaker 4>against landlords. I'd like to talk to Brad O'Brien if

528
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<v Speaker 4>we can get him on next hour, even Kachino, can

529
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<v Speaker 4>you work on that. I'd like to ask him his

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<v Speaker 4>opinion on liability and how that can be done, and

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<v Speaker 4>he might have an opinion on that.

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<v Speaker 12>All right, we got more to give you a heads up.

533
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<v Speaker 12>He was on with this for that call, that particular one.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in studio with me.

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<v Speaker 14>And Mark.

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<v Speaker 12>This is bo If you said, we all say the

537
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<v Speaker 12>same thing. She's pretty much getting the shakedown. I mean,

538
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<v Speaker 12>that's what it comes down to. She's gonna either have

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<v Speaker 12>to hire an attorney and answer the complaint or negotiate something.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a shakedown man. She's in the driver's

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<v Speaker 1>seat to Mark.

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<v Speaker 14>If you remember, she had a company to test for

543
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<v Speaker 14>mold and it came back negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bo I agree with all that, but she's wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, Wait a.

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<v Speaker 14>Minute, Yeah, she doesn't have She hired an independent company

547
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<v Speaker 14>after these tennis complained about it, and they tested it

548
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<v Speaker 14>and they did not find mold. They are shaking her down.

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<v Speaker 14>She just needs to go to court with the proof

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<v Speaker 14>that there was no mold and be done with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what's the problem is even when what

552
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<v Speaker 1>her homeowners won't even defend her because of it, She's

553
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<v Speaker 1>got the right insurance.

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<v Speaker 12>You're twenty five to fit. If they keep going forward

555
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<v Speaker 12>with it just to defend herself, yeah, or she's going

556
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<v Speaker 12>to lose all the equity in that house. I mean,

557
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<v Speaker 12>it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark.

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<v Speaker 14>I was going to suggest that she should maybe just

560
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<v Speaker 14>send him a letter and offer him ten thousand dollars

561
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<v Speaker 14>to just make the whole damn thing go away.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, that negotiation. We got more coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Tom Martino three oh three seven one three talks

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<v Speaker 4>two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martinez here in

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<v Speaker 4>three all three seven one three talk three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five. So I'm told

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<v Speaker 4>our real estate expert attorney's not available.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, clue.

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<v Speaker 4>Did somebody say, Hey, okay, so here's the deal. Can

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<v Speaker 4>you turn his mic off, But can you give me

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<v Speaker 4>return just of air please, because I'm hearing behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you anyway, So what we're talking about is the shakedown.

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<v Speaker 4>What is the shakedown is when a tenant or anyone

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<v Speaker 4>sees the weakness and they go after you, and just

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00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:06.559
<v Speaker 4>to defend yourself sometimes is more money than just trying

585
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<v Speaker 4>to settle with them.

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<v Speaker 1>But doesn't that put a nasty, nasty, nasty taste in

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth? Bob? Have you ever been shooken down, shaken

588
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<v Speaker 1>down at Plumbline or anywhere?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. You know, we run like you might make a

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<v Speaker 1>legit mistake and you're gonna fix it.

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<v Speaker 15>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>We run over one hundred calls a day, so if

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<v Speaker 5>we're ninety nine percent perfect, you know, I mean we

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<v Speaker 5>run four to five hundred, so ninety nine percent perfect,

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<v Speaker 5>we're messing up four or five times.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you one we can. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you one time somebody cashed in. So somebody called

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<v Speaker 1>me and said Plumbline said I need a new furnace.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got a second opinion, and they said plumb

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<v Speaker 1>Line was lying. And I want you to know that,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Martino, because you endorse them. So I said, Bob,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what's going on. And Bob says, Tom, here's all

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's send our team out there with that other team

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<v Speaker 4>if they want to go out there, and let's have

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<v Speaker 4>an independent person check this out.

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<v Speaker 1>If it turns out that that furnace is not bad,

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<v Speaker 1>she gets a brand new furnace.

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<v Speaker 4>And if it turns out in his bed she needs

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<v Speaker 4>a brand new furnace anyway, and I'll do it for her.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, what Yeah, I just want to do

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<v Speaker 4>it just to clear our name. So whether she needs

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<v Speaker 4>it or not, she'll get a new furnace. But at

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<v Speaker 4>least we'll know if our diagnostic was correct. I'll never

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<v Speaker 4>forget it. Sure's crap. They went out there and that

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<v Speaker 4>furnace was bad. In fact, I think the people that

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<v Speaker 4>said it wasn't bad might have been Excel, or might

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<v Speaker 4>have been one of those.

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<v Speaker 5>As one of them. Yes, they had Excel, and they

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<v Speaker 5>also had one or two other companies out and all

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<v Speaker 5>of them dispute to the fact that it had cracks

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<v Speaker 5>in the heat.

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<v Speaker 1>Exchanger, and so in order to tell the crack, Plumbline

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<v Speaker 1>was doing it with testing.

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<v Speaker 4>But they said, no, we don't think there's a crack.

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<v Speaker 4>So they literally took the heat exchanger out, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>found the cracks. She got a new furnuce.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't even say thank you. We were right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Plumb Line Services dot com. We got more coming up

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<v Speaker 4>on The Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Get you calls in three all three seven one three

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<v Speaker 1>talk seven one three h two five five or three

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<v Speaker 1>all three Martino.

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<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 4>dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,

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<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three all three seven

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<v Speaker 4>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

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<v Speaker 4>when you whose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

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<v Speaker 4>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three all

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 9>Ripped off.

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<v Speaker 16>New need it so you don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Come running Just as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 3>Come man, This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino Here at three oh three, seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>talks seven one three, eight two five five. I think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm catching you a little tiny bit of a cold

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<v Speaker 4>or something. So if I sniffle, I'm sorry, Kayden. There's

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<v Speaker 4>not much I can do about it. I'll turn that

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<v Speaker 4>mic off when I when I have to, uh, flow

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<v Speaker 4>my nose or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Three all three, seven one three talks seven three and

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<v Speaker 1>two five five.

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<v Speaker 4>We solve problems, answer the question taking place, make your

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<v Speaker 4>life a little easier, and we do it style and

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<v Speaker 4>grace and entertainment and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I'm lucky enough. I really am lucky enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes when one of my morons not my morons, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to insult my my uh my deputies,

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<v Speaker 4>one of my deputies.

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<v Speaker 1>Solve a problem. You get my dinger now.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe in using a dinger, so guys, get me

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<v Speaker 4>some successes here. Unlet's use a dinger.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have any suggestions on how to solve some

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<v Speaker 1>of these problems, give us a call anyway. Three oh

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<v Speaker 1>three seven one three talk three oh three seven to

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<v Speaker 1>one three eight two five five. You know a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny how many people ask about old cases because

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<v Speaker 4>they're listening to older shows. You see, and remember this one.

676
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<v Speaker 4>Mark has a new BMW X three and the parking

677
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<v Speaker 4>sensor stopped working and the warrant you wouldn't cover it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know why. I guess he got a rejection

679
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<v Speaker 1>letter that said or rejection email or something because there

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<v Speaker 1>was debris that caused it. Road debris.

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<v Speaker 6>Come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Parking sensors, by their very nature, are down near the road, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And it stopped working. Doc, we assigned this to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember this one, Deputy Doc? Do you remember

685
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<v Speaker 4>this one?

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00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 4>The warranty won't cover it because of road debris. Anybody,

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<v Speaker 4>somebody have a mirror can put under his nose if

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<v Speaker 4>he's still there.

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<v Speaker 1>Deputy Doc, I'm here, tom Oh, there you go. Good.

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<v Speaker 1>We were gonna wonder if you could fog the mirror anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you remember that case? Doc?

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<v Speaker 4>All kidding inside the X three with that parking sensor,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm thinking that's the dumbest excuse I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 4>Debris getting into the sensor from the road, so therefore that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a defect. Do you remember I don't remember

697
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<v Speaker 1>it was on market.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, I thought I had your name down here,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was Mark, and it was on February twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I digress.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wondered what happened with is somebody was calling

702
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<v Speaker 4>about it because they were having the same problem with

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<v Speaker 4>their X five.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's very curious.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if anyone else, maybe not even with beamers,

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<v Speaker 4>but with cars, have had sensor problems.

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<v Speaker 1>With the parking centers.

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<v Speaker 4>Now one thing that I have, and I almost wish

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<v Speaker 4>they stop putting them on cars all together. You want

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<v Speaker 4>to take a guess, Come on, take a guess, Mark,

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<v Speaker 4>I just wish they stop. They don't even have them

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<v Speaker 4>on cars.

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<v Speaker 1>Is. I don't believe I have ever.

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<v Speaker 4>Once used it accurately, or ever once did it tell

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<v Speaker 4>me accurately?

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<v Speaker 1>She's probably seeming real.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, we got a comedian now, Doc, don't leave

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<v Speaker 4>your day John.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, what do you think it is? Bob Logan? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it pisses me off? On a car

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't need? Ever?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I was going to say, the thing that cut

723
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<v Speaker 5>your car off of the stop light?

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<v Speaker 1>Tops it off? Oh the golf cart mode? Well, yeah,

725
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<v Speaker 1>the golf car mode. That's a good one. That is

726
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<v Speaker 1>a good one. That we ought to just do a

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<v Speaker 1>little feature on features you don't need in your car.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, backup cams. I love, yes, I absolutely love them now.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, without them, I feel lost. But there's the

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<v Speaker 4>one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Tire pressure sensors.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never had one. You know what, here's what I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm driving down a highway.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get.

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<v Speaker 4>On my left tire's low. You know what, I think, Oh,

736
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<v Speaker 4>that sensors out. I don't think at the left low.

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<v Speaker 4>I just automatically think, oh, that sensor's out.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that weird? I don't even think. And there's one

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<v Speaker 1>other thing you don't need, Hey, Tom, I swear to

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<v Speaker 1>God I do.

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<v Speaker 13>It to my see that happens and it gets cold

742
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<v Speaker 13>and the tire the air gets you know, a little

743
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<v Speaker 13>more compressed, and you'll get a false sweeting on your tires.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Hey, Mark, how do your testas sensors work?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they accurate? Yeah, they're definitely accurate. They're the same

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<v Speaker 1>as anybody's.

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<v Speaker 17>Oh but they so they don't But they don't give

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<v Speaker 17>you false readings, or do they? They don't give me

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<v Speaker 17>false No, I don't think. I don't get false readings

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<v Speaker 17>for any of them. Just the weather fluctuates. I think

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<v Speaker 17>they're the best thing in the world, though, Man, you

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<v Speaker 17>know it's.

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<v Speaker 12>Really if I'm in my RV and pulling a trailer,

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<v Speaker 12>I would never know in a million years if.

755
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<v Speaker 1>I lost a tire.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Mark and RV is a different and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know why they're different. But I loved having those

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<v Speaker 4>sensors on those big But they're not the same with cars.

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<v Speaker 4>The cars are too temperamental. I'm always getting a low

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<v Speaker 4>tire light or this tire, this tire. I mean, I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 4>These sensors never work right. Never, I've never had a

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00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 4>tire pressure sensor work correctly. In fact, I even was

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<v Speaker 4>was tricked into going into what's the tire shop? I

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<v Speaker 4>was go, oh discount where you pull in and they

765
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<v Speaker 4>check everything free, you know, you don't even have to

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00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.039
<v Speaker 4>get out of the car, And and I buy my

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00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 4>tires there so and I and the other thing my

768
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<v Speaker 4>wife leaves in. Is the only time I ever buy

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<v Speaker 4>a warranty ever is the roadside that roadside warranty. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>anything goes wrong with that tired, they step up and

771
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<v Speaker 4>they do not cry. So anyway, I have been duped

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<v Speaker 4>into checking that tire and then I don't even do

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<v Speaker 4>it anymore, so I did. I wasn't kidding when I

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<v Speaker 4>said when I see a low tire pressure, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>even pay attention to it. I may I should, but

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00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't. It's like you cry wolf too many times,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just don't pay attention.

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<v Speaker 1>So what on a car is useless? Hey, Tom, I

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<v Speaker 1>just say something.

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<v Speaker 13>If you go to Discount Tire, they have a free

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<v Speaker 13>tire check to just pull in, no costs. You don't

782
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<v Speaker 13>even have to be a customer, and they'll check all

783
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<v Speaker 13>your tires for you for nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you don't have to get out of your

785
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<v Speaker 1>car now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure where you were or if you weren't

787
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.159
<v Speaker 4>kind of stupor, but I think I mentioned that thirty

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<v Speaker 4>seconds ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's okay, Doc, we love having you. But did

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<v Speaker 1>you hear me?

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<v Speaker 4>Honest to goodness, I did say that. I said, you

792
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<v Speaker 4>can pull into Discount Tire and they'll check out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just checking some follow ups. Yeah, oh okay,

794
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and you were just checking me to see if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on my toast.

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<v Speaker 5>You know one thing that drives me nuts about cars,

797
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 5>and I don't think it's a safety feature because not

798
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 5>all cars do it. But when I get out of

799
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<v Speaker 5>my car and then I, you know, I stop, I

800
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.119
<v Speaker 5>turn it off, I get on my car, and then

801
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 5>I go to the back door to get something out

802
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:08.239
<v Speaker 5>and it's locked. Why can't all doors unlock it once?

803
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:10.719
<v Speaker 5>And then when you leave the car you can lock.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't want you. No, that's safety because and this started,

805
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<v Speaker 4>this started. I hate to be sexist, but it was,

806
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:21.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, like a woman alone in a parking lot, right,

807
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<v Speaker 4>she unlocks the door. She just wants the door she

808
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<v Speaker 4>unlocked to get out. She doesn't want the back right

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<v Speaker 4>door open or unlocked, as someone can jump in. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so I think there was a reason for that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there was also I'm just curious that was an odd statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Well because I didn't say when a man's alone in

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<v Speaker 1>a parking lot, I said a woman. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought of when when they say for security. Yeah, anyway, So.

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<v Speaker 4>I but but if I had to pick stuff, I

817
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.480
<v Speaker 4>think the golf cart modes a pain in the ass, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't I can't even believe that saves that

819
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<v Speaker 4>much energy, or saves that much air pollution, or saves

820
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<v Speaker 4>that much in whatever supposed to save gas.

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<v Speaker 12>That's how they get up anyway, Terry, sell all these trucks, man,

822
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<v Speaker 12>because they're using less gas. All these manufacturers have to

823
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<v Speaker 12>meet certain regulations and miles per cafe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's your cafe rule. Yeah, okay, oh I see,

825
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<v Speaker 1>So when they turn them off in between, they can

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<v Speaker 1>show a higher EPA. Yep, most of us turn it off,

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<v Speaker 1>though probably you do too.

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<v Speaker 4>But remember cafe cafe is measured on what does anyone remember?

829
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<v Speaker 4>It's the average fleet It's not the highest or the lowest.

830
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<v Speaker 4>It's the average fleet mileage. You have to have a

831
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<v Speaker 4>fleet mileage at an you know, there are targets you

832
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<v Speaker 4>have to hit by the federal government EPA. So now, shoot,

833
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<v Speaker 4>evs are helping them tremendously because they that doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>any any miles.

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<v Speaker 1>So so they can list that. I mean, I don't

836
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<v Speaker 1>even know how they list it, but it definitely affects

837
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<v Speaker 1>their cafe unless they exclude evs for the calculation in

838
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<v Speaker 1>their cafe. We ought to find that out. Let's google

839
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<v Speaker 1>that or ask my boyfriend during a break, Terry, what's

840
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<v Speaker 1>the issue you're having with a contractor?

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<v Speaker 11>Terry?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Hello, what's I what's the issue.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, it's kind of I'll try to make it quick.

844
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<v Speaker 15>I hired a contractor to replace a freestanding corner shower

845
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<v Speaker 15>in my master bathroom, and you know, they were highly recommended.

846
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<v Speaker 15>Everything was good, and so you know, they told me

847
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<v Speaker 15>to pick out my tile and my shower pan and

848
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<v Speaker 15>my shower enclosure, which I did, and I ordered the

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<v Speaker 15>power shower pan and enclosure from home depot and it

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<v Speaker 15>took a couple of weeks to get here, but I

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<v Speaker 15>got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, the contracy, so they wanted you to They wanted

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<v Speaker 4>you to go out and buy that on your own.

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, they wanted me to pick it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, like they didn't make a markup or anything. You

856
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<v Speaker 4>just went directly to a store to buy it.

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, exactly, okay. And that was the shower pan and

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00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 15>what else and the shower enclosure.

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<v Speaker 18>It was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird because they make a lot of money on those things.

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00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 1>That's weird. So they said, go out and buy here,

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<v Speaker 1>go out and buy your shower pan and enclosure and

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00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:44.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll put it in.

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00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:52.400
<v Speaker 15>Yeah. Yeah, okay, they did that. So I did that,

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00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 15>and they they a crew of three of them came

866
00:46:56.239 --> 00:47:02.159
<v Speaker 15>out and the shower pan was damaged, so I, you know,

867
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:07.199
<v Speaker 15>went back to home Depot and we got another one

868
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 15>ordered out.

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<v Speaker 4>This problem is this problem with home Depot or is

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<v Speaker 4>it going to turn out to be a problem with

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<v Speaker 4>the contractor?

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<v Speaker 15>I think both actually, and that's the way right.

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<v Speaker 4>three oh three seven one three talk three oh three

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<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five. So Terry tell

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00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 4>me the issue you you got your stuff? There was

901
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:56.000
<v Speaker 4>a problem with the base happened?

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00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 15>Yes, So I went back to home depot and ordered

903
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:07.519
<v Speaker 15>a replacement out, and that one I had shipped directly

904
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 15>to my house so that I could open it and

905
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:13.960
<v Speaker 15>look at it and make sure there wasn't any damage

906
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:15.320
<v Speaker 15>before the crew came back out.

907
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 1>And what's the base made of? Is it an acrylic?

908
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Is it a concrete or light concrete stone?

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00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 15>You know, I this is my first experience with this stuff,

910
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:33.599
<v Speaker 15>so I'm really not I don't know much. I'm just

911
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 15>looking at it. I would say it's probably a crylic

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00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 15>of some sort.

913
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So now what's going on with that. What's happening?

914
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious, So I sent you a new one, go ahead.

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00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:48.440
<v Speaker 15>They sent me a new one, and I checked it out.

916
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 15>I checked all the corners, I checked everything for anything bad,

917
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:55.880
<v Speaker 15>and it looked good. So I called the crew and

918
00:49:56.000 --> 00:50:02.039
<v Speaker 15>they came back out. They installed it and and started

919
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 15>tiling above it, and you know, it was looking beautiful.

920
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:13.079
<v Speaker 15>And so then they came out to install the shower door,

921
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:19.719
<v Speaker 15>and the shower door didn't fit. And what had happened

922
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 15>is home Depot sent the wrong size, and.

923
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 1>I went right, they sent the wrong size.

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00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:31.159
<v Speaker 15>What they sent the wrong size shower pan?

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00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, in what way? Is it the wrong size? This part?

926
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand the wrong measurements for your entire base. Yes,

927
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>it was so, Wait a minute, I would so the enclosure,

928
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:50.199
<v Speaker 1>the enclosure is a different size than the bait than

929
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:51.760
<v Speaker 1>than the pan.

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00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:57.360
<v Speaker 15>Yes, yes, I had ordered that crew.

931
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.559
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, you have a crew, right, what install

932
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:06.119
<v Speaker 1>that base? Is it obviously like can you tell by

933
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>looking at it? Or is it something that's off by

934
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 1>like an inch?

935
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<v Speaker 15>It's two inches. I ordered a thirty eight inch neo

936
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:23.400
<v Speaker 15>angle shower pan, and they sent a thirty six And

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00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:29.400
<v Speaker 15>so the guys installed this, and when I went back

938
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<v Speaker 15>to Home Depot, now.

939
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.320
<v Speaker 4>Can't you just get another? Can't you get another shower

940
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:36.239
<v Speaker 4>enclosure and maybe return the one.

941
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 1>You didn't use? That I can do? Or does it

942
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 1>screw up? Or does that two inches screw up everything?

943
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:49.920
<v Speaker 15>You know, it doesn't screw up everything. It just it's

944
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:53.840
<v Speaker 15>just smaller and it's a small area to begin.

945
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:57.280
<v Speaker 4>Well, what did they offer that as a solution, Terry?

946
00:51:57.400 --> 00:51:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Did they say, why don't we just get a shower

947
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.239
<v Speaker 4>enclosure to fit the current pan since they already install

948
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:03.719
<v Speaker 4>the pan?

949
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 15>Well, what they what they had offered is that they

950
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:17.719
<v Speaker 15>they would replace it, but they expected Home Depot to.

951
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:23.400
<v Speaker 1>To pay for it and Home No, wait a minute,

952
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:25.880
<v Speaker 1>they would wait, wait, wait, Terry, they would replace what.

953
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:29.480
<v Speaker 15>The shower in the shower pan?

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00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute.

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00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.880
<v Speaker 4>So instead of doing a new enclosure on a pan

956
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 4>that's already installed, they would rather tear up the pan

957
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 4>that's installed.

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00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:45.280
<v Speaker 1>That does not make sense to me.

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00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:49.440
<v Speaker 15>Okay, well, and see this is where I needed to know.

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00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 1>I just.

961
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.320
<v Speaker 4>No, no, here's what I'm asking you. Here's what does

962
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 4>Home Depot regnize. They made a mistake.

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00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:08.159
<v Speaker 15>They kind of made a little apology. Yeah, we we

964
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:09.519
<v Speaker 15>sent the wrong thing.

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00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:15.239
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, well okay, but your crew had some responsibility to

966
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 4>see they did send the wrong thing. And the question

967
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 4>is how much responsibility do they have because they sent

968
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:22.559
<v Speaker 4>the wrong pan?

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00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.760
<v Speaker 4>So now you have a professional crew supposedly on the

971
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:29.960
<v Speaker 4>site and they're looking at both an enclosure and a pan.

972
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:33.159
<v Speaker 1>What was wrong with the first pan? Do you know.

973
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:36.199
<v Speaker 15>It had been dropped?

974
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:39.679
<v Speaker 19>The corner of it was okay, got it?

975
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay? No, no, that's good. They found that. Now let's

976
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 1>move on to this new pan. When it arrived, you

977
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:50.239
<v Speaker 1>looked at it, the crew installed it right, yes, yes,

978
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and they just went ahead and installed it, and then

979
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 1>when they went to put the enclosure on it, it

980
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>was off about two inches.

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00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:05.360
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Before we go on, you need to explore the

982
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:10.519
<v Speaker 4>option of replacing the enclosure. Since they didn't use it,

983
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:15.119
<v Speaker 4>it's new home Depot should be willing on their dime

984
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.199
<v Speaker 4>to come and get it and bring you another one

985
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 4>to match the wrong one they send. If they acknowledge

986
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:22.800
<v Speaker 4>they sent the wrong pan, then they should match the

987
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:27.519
<v Speaker 4>pan with another enclosure. Doesn't that seem logical to you?

988
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:30.519
<v Speaker 20>Well? It does?

989
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, hey bo, Yes, I want you to help.

990
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I want you to. I want you to hold her

991
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:41.400
<v Speaker 1>hand through this. Listen.

992
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:44.760
<v Speaker 4>We have a deputy that is pretty good. Yeah, yeah,

993
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:47.119
<v Speaker 4>that's pretty good at explaining this stuff, and he was

994
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:51.000
<v Speaker 4>in the biz. So Terry, we're going to assign this

995
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.039
<v Speaker 4>to Bo. Okay, you're gonna be hearing from Bo.

996
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call you this afternoon. Terry Rogan to get

997
00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:00.199
<v Speaker 1>this work out with Home Depot. But don't let them

998
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:03.320
<v Speaker 1>do anything yet. Do not please tell me one thing

999
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:06.079
<v Speaker 1>before we move on, because I should have asked this, Terry.

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00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.760
<v Speaker 1>You didn't already tear out the pan, did you?

1001
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:10.039
<v Speaker 7>No?

1002
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:12.079
<v Speaker 1>No? Good?

1003
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:12.960
<v Speaker 9>Good?

1004
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:15.840
<v Speaker 4>Hey, let me ask you something. What kind of a

1005
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:18.320
<v Speaker 4>job does it look like? Is the pan installed? Well?

1006
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:21.840
<v Speaker 15>You know, yeah, it looks nice.

1007
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now, wouldn't it be ashamed? Wouldn't it be ashamed

1008
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and illogical to tear.

1009
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.159
<v Speaker 4>That out and to fight with Home Depot over the

1010
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:35.360
<v Speaker 4>extra labor when all you have to do is match

1011
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:37.079
<v Speaker 4>a new enclosure to it.

1012
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:42.519
<v Speaker 12>Wouldn't it be a lot smaller? I mean, isn't there

1013
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.880
<v Speaker 12>more to it than that? Like maybe the walls don't

1014
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:45.280
<v Speaker 12>line up?

1015
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Mark?

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00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Of course, Now when you say a lot, that's why

1017
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:51.239
<v Speaker 4>I asked her. How much is it off and she

1018
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:53.679
<v Speaker 4>said a few inches. And then I asked her would

1019
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:54.440
<v Speaker 4>that matter to you?

1020
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:55.719
<v Speaker 1>And she said no.

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00:55:56.519 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 4>So Terry, how many inches? I mean, would it make

1022
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:02.679
<v Speaker 4>your shower substantially smaller?

1023
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>When you stand on that pan? Does it feel cramped?

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00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 15>You know, it's a little tight. It's it is for me,

1025
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:17.039
<v Speaker 15>it's it'd be fine for me. You know, I am

1026
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:20.000
<v Speaker 15>thinking resale down the road kind of things.

1027
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Do let me ask you something. You said it was

1028
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.679
<v Speaker 1>just a couple inches. Is it a couple inches or

1029
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:26.840
<v Speaker 1>is it like a foot?

1030
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:27.519
<v Speaker 4>What is it?

1031
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:30.440
<v Speaker 15>No, it's it's actually two inches.

1032
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Because I okay, that can't make that can't make that

1033
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:35.199
<v Speaker 1>much difference.

1034
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:40.639
<v Speaker 12>Well, I just got a question. Then what do you

1035
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:43.559
<v Speaker 12>do with like the walls where the enclosure goes? So

1036
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 12>you build them all out two inches?

1037
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Mark?

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00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:49.199
<v Speaker 11>I don't.

1039
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where what I know? Actually, Terry?

1040
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:54.239
<v Speaker 9>Did they?

1041
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I can only understand this mark.

1042
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 4>If the pan is in place, it fits, so there's

1043
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 4>no wall to build out. I mean they put they

1044
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 4>put the pan in place. So, Terry, the walls that

1045
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:13.039
<v Speaker 4>surround the shower, let's say, is it surrounded on three

1046
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:17.239
<v Speaker 4>sides or is it surrounded on two sides or is

1047
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:17.840
<v Speaker 4>it surround?

1048
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:20.559
<v Speaker 1>Is it free standing on any side? Can you explain it?

1049
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:25.360
<v Speaker 15>It's I'm so bad at this. There's two walls.

1050
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, no bad at this.

1051
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:30.639
<v Speaker 4>You're sitting in the picture yourself, standing in the shower.

1052
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:34.599
<v Speaker 4>You obviously have an open area that you walk in

1053
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:37.960
<v Speaker 4>and out of. Okay, that's the open area. Then you

1054
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:43.320
<v Speaker 4>have either glass or wall on the left, right and back.

1055
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:44.920
<v Speaker 2>So what is it?

1056
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Is it going to be glass on the left and right,

1057
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:49.199
<v Speaker 1>wall in the back or is it going to be

1058
00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:52.199
<v Speaker 1>wall on the left and the back? I mean, you

1059
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>can visualize that.

1060
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.119
<v Speaker 4>What is it? You're standing in the shower staring out

1061
00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.800
<v Speaker 4>what is behind you? Is it glass or is it

1062
00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:00.360
<v Speaker 4>the wall?

1063
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.239
<v Speaker 15>It's the wall, It's okay.

1064
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Then what's to your left? Is it glass or a wall?

1065
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:08.840
<v Speaker 15>That's glass?

1066
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay? And then to your right is the wall.

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<v Speaker 15>Is to the right is also glass? And wait, there's

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<v Speaker 15>three pieces of glass.

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<v Speaker 4>That you have left and right, glass in the front,

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<v Speaker 4>glass right. So you have the front, left and right

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<v Speaker 4>or glass and the only part of the wall is

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<v Speaker 4>the back.

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<v Speaker 9>Part right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well that's that's why it's gonna fit. Mark. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no walls to move right?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you snap a picture too. Both's gonna want to

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<v Speaker 4>see a picture. Listen, We're going to find a solution

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<v Speaker 4>for you. Two inches can't make that much of a

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<v Speaker 4>difference three h three and and and if you're just

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<v Speaker 4>tuning in, please don't take that the wrong way. We

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<v Speaker 4>go More coming up on the Troubleshooter Show three O

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<v Speaker 4>three seven one three talks seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 4>five five Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer

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<v Speaker 4>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three seven to seven to one help. You'll think you're

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<v Speaker 4>his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real

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<v Speaker 4>estate Man dot com to list your home with Remax

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<v Speaker 4>Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey Tom Martine here with Bob Logan from Plumbline Services

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<v Speaker 4>dot com. One of our trusted sources for plumbing, heating, cooling,

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00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 4>electric and drains.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've known them. I've known them almost from their.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn inception and that's the true story, true, and that

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<v Speaker 4>goes back to Jeff the founder, and I remember, I

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01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:12.280
<v Speaker 4>remember so many good people. Anyway, do you have any

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<v Speaker 4>questions on anything like that coming up? I'd be concentrating

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<v Speaker 4>on air conditioning right now. Although you need a good

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<v Speaker 4>furnace to run an air people don't know that, Tony.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 4>Tony, Welcome to the Tom Martine Show or the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>I should say, since Mark's been here so long, I

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01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:30.079
<v Speaker 4>feel like he's I feel like I should give him

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<v Speaker 4>partial credit. So I'm gonna say I'm the I'm the

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<v Speaker 4>brain and the heart and the soul, and he's the ass. Anyway, Tony, Mark,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was funny. Yeah, yeah, good Tony, Tony,

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01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:46.119
<v Speaker 4>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I'm not gonna give Mark any pooh poop because

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01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:56.920
<v Speaker 10>we're we're in a line on our views. But anyhow,

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<v Speaker 10>I just thought i'd tell you that Paul the Waterman's

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<v Speaker 10>coming out tomorrow three to look at my to look

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<v Speaker 10>at some of his upgrades.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro, you will love it, Tony, Tony, you will love it.

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<v Speaker 4>You will really notice, you know, very seldom do you

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<v Speaker 4>buy things that you really notice you know, and and

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<v Speaker 4>one of those things would be the soft water, the

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<v Speaker 4>purified water, the drinking water, the coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just can't go on and on anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So go ahead. What you wanted to talk about climate change?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so I'm following up on your cafe standards segment

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<v Speaker 10>a little or earlier. And yeah, I want to I

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<v Speaker 10>just want to do whatever I can to push your

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<v Speaker 10>audience that global warming, I e. Climate change is a scam.

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<v Speaker 9>It is a method of control too.

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<v Speaker 10>It's a method to control our means of production.

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<v Speaker 21>But to prove this, hopefully you have the article from

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<v Speaker 21>the Washington Post that shows a g and that graph

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<v Speaker 21>which I always try.

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<v Speaker 10>To look things up and cross cross reference, and you

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<v Speaker 10>can find this.

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<v Speaker 9>You go to the Washington Forest Post.

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<v Speaker 10>You will find this.

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<v Speaker 21>That graph, which hopefully.

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<v Speaker 10>You have in front of you, shows that our average

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<v Speaker 10>surface temperatures are near a record low since the beginning

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<v Speaker 10>of time.

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<v Speaker 4>You have Okay, hold on, I'm not no, no, Tony,

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<v Speaker 4>But I want to bring up one thing very clear.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not an advocate of.

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<v Speaker 1>Nor a. Do I ever push climate change agendas? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>The reason they don't call it warming and cooling? No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's horse crap. But let me explain something.

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<v Speaker 4>I do believe there are things that happen in our

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<v Speaker 4>environment that are anomalies, and things that happen that are regular,

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01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:57.480
<v Speaker 4>and things that are happened that are repetitious and cyclical,

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01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.440
<v Speaker 4>and all kinds of things in nature that that man

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01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:06.480
<v Speaker 4>has its part in, like animals do and like volcanoes do.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't think it is something you can legislate

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01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:15.039
<v Speaker 4>or change by behavior. I don't think our behavior can

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01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:20.719
<v Speaker 4>change the climate back or make it accelerate the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>It just we are so arrogant to believe that. I

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<v Speaker 1>swear to God, it is so arrogant to believe that that.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't mean that we don't have and I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to let you finish, but I want to say this.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't mean we don't have an impact on our environment.

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<v Speaker 4>But people confuse environment with climate. We have like the

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<v Speaker 4>Mile High City, we have that fog cloud, that smog

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<v Speaker 4>that we can control to an extent with our habits

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<v Speaker 4>and our lifestyles. And we have certain things around the world,

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<v Speaker 4>our water quality, all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 16>But the overall climate, the overall atmosphere, we have very

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<v Speaker 16>very very little impact on that, and this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is where the scientists who truly look into it are aligned.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have what you claim, and I think you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely correct people who latch onto it for control, Tony.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give you a small analogy.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone said that the year two thousand was going to

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<v Speaker 4>rehab it with technology now everyone, So here's.

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<v Speaker 1>What was happening.

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<v Speaker 4>They were hiring experts so they could be y two

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<v Speaker 4>K compliant, and these experts became experts of experts who

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01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:47.840
<v Speaker 4>were experts of experts, and there was no one who

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<v Speaker 4>had the balls to say, nothing's going to happen on

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01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:55.639
<v Speaker 4>why two K nothing, Nothing is going to happen nothing,

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<v Speaker 4>And everyone who said that they said were a nut.

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<v Speaker 4>And the ones who were advocating for hiring a special

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01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:08.000
<v Speaker 4>team and redoing all the software and the date changes

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<v Speaker 4>and all of that were touted as heroes. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>just the biggest joke in the world because nothing did happen.

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01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:20.199
<v Speaker 4>And the companies that went through all of this grief

1183
01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:24.960
<v Speaker 4>and trouble to fix something that wasn't broken, it fared

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01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.920
<v Speaker 4>out exactly the same as other people who did nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I liken the why two K scare to climate change?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it's gonna get you. It's gonna get you, it's

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01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:37.119
<v Speaker 4>gonna get you, and then it.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't get you.

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<v Speaker 4>And then anything that would happen had very little to

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<v Speaker 4>do with the actual Y two K. They were talking

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<v Speaker 4>like it almost took on a life of its own, Tony.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a run on cash at the banks. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you remember that? Do you remember that New Year's Eve?

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01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:57.039
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember the three or five years leading up

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<v Speaker 4>to it? The food stores people were buying, and things

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01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.559
<v Speaker 4>people were doing because of what was going to happen

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01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:06.320
<v Speaker 4>on Y two K. Do you remember that or is

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<v Speaker 4>it so far going?

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<v Speaker 1>People were go ahead.

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<v Speaker 10>I remember at one hundred percent. And I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 10>I had a friend I live in Denver. I have

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<v Speaker 10>a friend in Minneapolis that I was having a New

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01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:22.599
<v Speaker 10>Year's Eve party. On December thirty one of nineteen ninety nine,

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01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:26.239
<v Speaker 10>I flew to Minneapolis on a jet plane. I was

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<v Speaker 10>the only passenger, And on the following day I came

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<v Speaker 10>home on a jet jet plane. I was one of

1207
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<v Speaker 10>two passengers. My wife stayed home and filled the bath

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<v Speaker 10>with water. I remember it very well.

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<v Speaker 1>See, people were so afraid not to do something because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was selling they should do something. So these people

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01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:51.199
<v Speaker 1>started hiring y two K compliant it guys because they

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<v Speaker 1>were told they should, and they were afraid that they didn't,

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01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:57.280
<v Speaker 1>they'd be caught with their pants down. It was such

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<v Speaker 1>a scam, such a scam. I like in climate change

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Yeah, climate change might be happening. I'll let

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<v Speaker 1>you finish. Let me take this quick break, Tony, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love where you're going. Hold on right after this, go.

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<v Speaker 4>With a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

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01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:32.039
<v Speaker 4>Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of

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01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:34.760
<v Speaker 4>insurance companies find out now three O three seven to

1223
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:37.599
<v Speaker 4>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

1224
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:39.840
<v Speaker 4>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

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<v Speaker 4>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martinez

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<v Speaker 4>here three seven to one three talk Tony, continue with

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<v Speaker 4>your story about climate change.

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<v Speaker 10>Go ahead, Well, look, I don't have anything else to add,

1230
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:07.599
<v Speaker 10>just that it is a scam. It's meant for control

1231
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:11.639
<v Speaker 10>and if you do some research on it, you will

1232
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<v Speaker 10>find that all the dates of disaster have passed and

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<v Speaker 10>we're all still breathing just fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, if you watch that documentary that what you call it,

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01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Al Gore, did I mean we are past the I

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<v Speaker 4>mean if everything you said was wrong.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, no, But that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>See And when I say things like this, When I

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<v Speaker 4>say things like this, I always get comments from people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you you know you're destroying the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. See I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an environmentalist. I believe in taking and being a

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<v Speaker 4>good steward of the earth.

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01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:52.479
<v Speaker 1>I really do. I believe in taking care of our earth.

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01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:54.840
<v Speaker 4>I believe in doing things that are good for it

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<v Speaker 4>and not to unnecessarily contribute.

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<v Speaker 1>To pollution and all of that. Right, But I'd also

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01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.000
<v Speaker 1>a one who believes that you can harness all the

1249
01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:08.000
<v Speaker 1>cowfarts you want and it's not going to help you.

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01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:12.920
<v Speaker 1>And when you offset credits carbon credits, the atmosphere doesn't

1251
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:16.159
<v Speaker 1>know that. It's not like you can feel away with

1252
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:19.520
<v Speaker 1>some carbon over here and get away with it because

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01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:22.159
<v Speaker 1>you did something over there. It's just weird.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just wish people would get out of politics

1255
01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:31.800
<v Speaker 4>and just look at real life, real life instead of fantasy.

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<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 4>dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're contenth

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<v Speaker 4>time for an insurance check up free, no obligation in comparison,

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<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance. Pay too much your coverage at dozens

1260
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:51.319
<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

1261
01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:54.239
<v Speaker 4>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

1262
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:56.479
<v Speaker 4>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

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<v Speaker 4>com to list your home with Remax Alliance nine two

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<v Speaker 4>zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped of what news needed by so you don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Come running just as fast.

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<v Speaker 3>As we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooter's gonna help come.

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<v Speaker 3>Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino Cano.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Martino here on the air, going on fifty years,

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<v Speaker 4>kicking ass, solving problems, answering questions, taking complaints, listening to consumers.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh unlike these uh climate change advocates. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>just talk about stuff. I experience it. I often. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know how you people feel in

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01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:55.039
<v Speaker 1>general about consultants, Mark, how do you feel about consultants?

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01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:56.000
<v Speaker 1>In general.

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<v Speaker 12>For what though, consultants for just any kind of constru anything,

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01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:03.119
<v Speaker 12>because just the industry, the consultant industry.

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01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:07.239
<v Speaker 1>And I know what you're gonna say, I've never given

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01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:07.600
<v Speaker 1>a thought.

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01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:11.319
<v Speaker 12>I mean, like, if you were going to try to

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01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:15.279
<v Speaker 12>get in shape, I would think a consultant would be

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01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:17.159
<v Speaker 12>good to tell you what kind of weights to lift,

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01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:20.079
<v Speaker 12>how far to run exactly exactly.

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01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:23.359
<v Speaker 4>Or if you're doing marketing, you want someone who's familiar

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01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:26.560
<v Speaker 4>with the different marketing or your dream. But the point

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01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:30.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to make is this, you want consultants who

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01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:34.319
<v Speaker 4>know what they're doing. The old joke was this guy

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01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:37.279
<v Speaker 4>was giving a seminar on a hundred ways to make

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01:11:37.399 --> 01:11:40.119
<v Speaker 4>love and he was not He doesn't have a girlfriend

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01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.359
<v Speaker 4>and he's not married. You know, there's a joke about

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01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:48.199
<v Speaker 4>marriage counselors who aren't married or people who consult on things,

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01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:51.239
<v Speaker 4>and they really don't have anything but education, they.

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01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Don't have the experience.

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01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:56.600
<v Speaker 4>And so I often, I swear to God, I can't

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01:11:56.640 --> 01:12:00.000
<v Speaker 4>tell you how many times I'm hit up on this show.

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01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh people want to be a guest on this show.

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01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Or I read about so called experts, you know, being

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01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in the journal in the in the broadcasting industry, and

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01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:13.399
<v Speaker 1>we're always hit up by PR people, Right, here's the

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01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:16.279
<v Speaker 1>number one guru and customer sales and service or in

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01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:20.079
<v Speaker 1>customer service, and I always I just find it funny.

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01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:22.680
<v Speaker 4>And so when I if I ever pre interview one

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01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:25.600
<v Speaker 4>of them, I said, what makes you an expert on

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01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:26.680
<v Speaker 4>customer service?

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01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've worked with the biggest retailers in the country

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01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:32.359
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah.

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01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:35.359
<v Speaker 4>And I said, yeah, but what about the customer service part?

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01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:39.000
<v Speaker 4>And then what makes you an expert on even a

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01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:43.960
<v Speaker 4>consumer a customer? What would make you an expert at that? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>we've done we have this research report, we have this

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01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:49.000
<v Speaker 4>white paper, we've done this, we've done that.

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01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I said, what's your sampling size?

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<v Speaker 4>Usually when you do these, young man, I don't know

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01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:55.560
<v Speaker 4>where you're going with this, but I've worked with and

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01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:58.279
<v Speaker 4>that's where they start talking about who they work. Would

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01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:01.279
<v Speaker 4>I say, Okay, Normally what you find is they do

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01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:05.119
<v Speaker 4>samplings of two hundred and they do surveys. Samplings of

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01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:09.920
<v Speaker 4>two hundred four hundred is usually giant survey. Yeah, they're random,

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01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:12.720
<v Speaker 4>and I'm not talking to I'm not saying these scientific.

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01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:15.319
<v Speaker 4>If you do a really good survey, I'm not saying

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01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:18.399
<v Speaker 4>you're not going to get useful information, But what if

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01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:18.880
<v Speaker 4>you did.

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01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:19.600
<v Speaker 1>A survey.

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01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:25.399
<v Speaker 4>Five days a week for fifty years, and on every

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01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:29.439
<v Speaker 4>one of those days you talk to dozens of consumers

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01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:34.119
<v Speaker 4>or read their emails or voicemails and interacted with consumers

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01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:39.119
<v Speaker 4>that many times directly directly, not your saff but you

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01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:43.119
<v Speaker 4>And so I tried to I tried to put myself.

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<v Speaker 1>In a pigeonhole. Yeah, I am a consultant, you know, Bob.

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01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:48.000
<v Speaker 4>I come to your place and I talk to you

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01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:50.800
<v Speaker 4>guys about customer service and what the consumer's thinking, don't

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01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:53.000
<v Speaker 4>I yes, and what they're thinking when you walk to

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01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:55.279
<v Speaker 4>the door. But I'm not doing that based on a

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01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:58.000
<v Speaker 4>sampling of two hundred I'm doing that based on a

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01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:01.920
<v Speaker 4>sampling of hundreds of thousands of commons. So if you

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01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:04.479
<v Speaker 4>talk to me about an industry and what somebody likes

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01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:07.680
<v Speaker 4>or doesn't like, or how do you make a consumer

1339
01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:10.239
<v Speaker 4>react to this this or this or this, It doesn't

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01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:12.279
<v Speaker 4>matter that I work with large corporations.

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01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:15.039
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter that I know so and so or

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01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.800
<v Speaker 1>such and such. It doesn't matter. What matters is do

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01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I know consumers and how do I know them? And

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01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you that that's the strength of

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01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:24.439
<v Speaker 1>the show.

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01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:28.960
<v Speaker 4>We help people based on information we've gathered from people,

1347
01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:32.960
<v Speaker 4>and we go after bad guys based on information we

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01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:35.399
<v Speaker 4>have here, and we go have we get good guys

1349
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:40.079
<v Speaker 4>based on information we have here. It's based on real data.

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01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:44.039
<v Speaker 4>No one, there is no one. You can have the

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01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:47.720
<v Speaker 4>capital Jay journalism from Yale. I don't care and why

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01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:52.640
<v Speaker 4>you You could be a broadcaster, you know, it doesn't

1353
01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:56.039
<v Speaker 4>matter who you are, But you don't know consumers.

1354
01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Like we do.

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01:14:56.359 --> 01:15:02.079
<v Speaker 4>You absolutely positively do not. And there's not an organization

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01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:05.640
<v Speaker 4>in the world that has done more research than me,

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01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:09.119
<v Speaker 4>not one. There is not one consumer expert in the

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01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:13.359
<v Speaker 4>world who has directly talked to as many consumers as

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01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:16.720
<v Speaker 4>I have and better yet kept track of every.

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01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Single call an encounter. So if you said, Tom, why

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01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:23.600
<v Speaker 1>does this happen in this industry? I can tell you.

1362
01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:26.239
<v Speaker 1>And if you ask me why does that happen in

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01:15:26.359 --> 01:15:29.640
<v Speaker 1>that industry? I can tell you. And I don't need

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01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:33.880
<v Speaker 1>a high falutin consultant who's done a survey based on

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01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:38.359
<v Speaker 1>two hundred respondents to tell me. Although they're not trust me,

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01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:43.479
<v Speaker 1>they're not useless. These surveys can be very very good,

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01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:44.760
<v Speaker 1>well and very good.

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01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:49.560
<v Speaker 4>If that sampling is done scientifically, and if you can

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01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:53.159
<v Speaker 4>get them to be honest in their answers, how do

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01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:53.600
<v Speaker 4>you do that?

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01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:55.800
<v Speaker 1>That's a whole art unto itself.

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01:15:56.319 --> 01:15:58.079
<v Speaker 4>How do you know if somebody's being honest with you

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01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:00.840
<v Speaker 4>with an answer, and how do you pose the question

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01:16:01.079 --> 01:16:02.640
<v Speaker 4>so you get the honest answer.

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01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So let's just put it out there.

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01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:08.800
<v Speaker 4>Mark, We've gone and talked to companies, We've gone and

1377
01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:13.079
<v Speaker 4>talked to employees, We've gone and talked about holes in

1378
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:13.640
<v Speaker 4>the ship.

1379
01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:15.359
<v Speaker 1>And there's a.

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01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.079
<v Speaker 4>Reason we know more than anyone else in the industry

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01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:23.279
<v Speaker 4>because I live it every single day.

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01:16:23.720 --> 01:16:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Now, there's a reason I'm bringing this up. If you

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01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:30.800
<v Speaker 1>have a business, We've said this before. I'll do this

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01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:31.119
<v Speaker 1>for you.

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01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:35.800
<v Speaker 4>I'll help you free. I'm not looking for anything. If

1386
01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:38.840
<v Speaker 4>you want me to evaluate what you're doing, if you

1387
01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:41.039
<v Speaker 4>get a lot of complaints or a lack of reviews

1388
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:42.399
<v Speaker 4>or this or that. Now, I'm not going to tell

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01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:45.079
<v Speaker 4>you I'm going to be your onboard consultant for the

1390
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:47.600
<v Speaker 4>rest of your life, but I'll give you a consult

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01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:49.720
<v Speaker 4>and I'm not looking for anything in the future, by

1392
01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:52.119
<v Speaker 4>the way, So don't think, oh, this is Tom's way

1393
01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:53.920
<v Speaker 4>of getting his foot in the door. Footing the door

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01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:55.720
<v Speaker 4>for what I'm seventy one years old.

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01:16:55.760 --> 01:17:00.960
<v Speaker 1>My foot's out of the door. My foot's I don't

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01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.479
<v Speaker 1>want a job. I just want to help people. I

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01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:04.159
<v Speaker 1>swear to God.

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01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:08.279
<v Speaker 4>I know it sounds weird, but I just love helping people,

1399
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:11.840
<v Speaker 4>and I love helping young business. So give me a

1400
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:15.000
<v Speaker 4>call sometime and you can use my Google Voice and

1401
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:17.000
<v Speaker 4>you can fax me or text me.

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01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:17.239
<v Speaker 9>There.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'll see the age came out seven four

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01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:23.720
<v Speaker 1>seven nine nine nine fifty eighty seven four seven nine

1405
01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:24.920
<v Speaker 1>nine nine fifty two eighty.

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01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.439
<v Speaker 4>I can look at an operation, I can look at problems.

1407
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:30.880
<v Speaker 4>I can look at what's going on in your business

1408
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:32.159
<v Speaker 4>that you can't figure.

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01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Out and find it. I can find it. Kelvin? Is

1410
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it Kelvin or Kevin? Does she misspell your name? Is it?

1411
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Or is it Calvin.

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01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:44.159
<v Speaker 10>Kelvin?

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01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:50.359
<v Speaker 9>Like the temperature? Oh well, yeah, my mom bought My

1414
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:53.640
<v Speaker 9>mom bought a washing machine appliance factory. She bought to

1415
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:58.039
<v Speaker 9>extend the warranty theme and the washing machine. The first

1416
01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:00.359
<v Speaker 9>time they came out was two years old. You've had

1417
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:02.279
<v Speaker 9>a factory warranty up to two years old. And then

1418
01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:03.640
<v Speaker 9>they extend the warranty kicked in.

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01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:06.760
<v Speaker 1>What does she buy By the way, did you say, Calvin,

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01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:07.760
<v Speaker 1>what did she buy.

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01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:11.760
<v Speaker 9>A Samsung washing machine from appliance factory?

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01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:13.720
<v Speaker 9>Really?

1424
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:16.640
<v Speaker 1>And then you said the first time? So what do

1425
01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you mean the first time?

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01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:21.399
<v Speaker 9>The first time it needed repaired. It was about two

1427
01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:23.840
<v Speaker 9>years old. It needed some screws fell out, so they

1428
01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:25.119
<v Speaker 9>come and replace the screws.

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01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:28.760
<v Speaker 1>And this is after she so this is a two

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01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:31.079
<v Speaker 1>year old unit that she bought from them. They came

1431
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:31.840
<v Speaker 1>out to service.

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01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:37.079
<v Speaker 9>Yes, with the extended warranty that we purchased for the guy.

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01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:40.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but if you buy a brand new Samsung, when

1434
01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:41.920
<v Speaker 4>did she buy the brand new Samsung?

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01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:49.119
<v Speaker 9>In twenty twenty two, twenty twenty two, November of twenty

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01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:55.840
<v Speaker 9>twenty two, Okay, keep going. And so the repairman come out,

1437
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:57.960
<v Speaker 9>put the new screws in it, and he said, oh,

1438
01:18:58.000 --> 01:18:59.800
<v Speaker 9>it needs a new tub. So they ordered it to

1439
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:04.640
<v Speaker 9>replaced the tub. And then in December of last year,

1440
01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:05.840
<v Speaker 9>the repair.

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01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Man and all of that was paid by all of

1442
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:08.760
<v Speaker 1>that was paid by the warranty.

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01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:14.840
<v Speaker 9>Right, No, that the original the manufacturer warranty. And then

1444
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:18.279
<v Speaker 9>the second repair was on the extended warranty or yeah,

1445
01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:20.079
<v Speaker 9>the second repair was on.

1446
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:21.239
<v Speaker 10>The extend okay, warranty.

1447
01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:25.279
<v Speaker 9>Okay, people with the extended warranty said, it's going to

1448
01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:28.359
<v Speaker 9>cost more to fix the w wassher than the washing

1449
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.800
<v Speaker 9>machine's worth. And they offered her one hundred and eighty

1450
01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:33.920
<v Speaker 9>one dollars if she would come and buy a new

1451
01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:34.680
<v Speaker 9>warsher from them.

1452
01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:38.479
<v Speaker 4>But but, but wait a minute, we're talking about twenty

1453
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:40.720
<v Speaker 4>twenty two, twenty three, twenty four.

1454
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:42.880
<v Speaker 1>We're not even talking about three years old.

1455
01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:45.640
<v Speaker 9>No, no, we're not.

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01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute.

1457
01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:48.479
<v Speaker 15>Machine.

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01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:52.279
<v Speaker 4>They're telling you that this three year old, this this

1459
01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:56.359
<v Speaker 4>three year old appliance factory outlet washing machine, the Samsung

1460
01:19:57.439 --> 01:20:01.039
<v Speaker 4>is so bad in two or three years that she

1461
01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:02.359
<v Speaker 4>should just buy a new one.

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01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:06.520
<v Speaker 9>Yes, and they'll give her three hundred and eighty one

1463
01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:07.960
<v Speaker 9>dollars in store credit.

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01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:12.039
<v Speaker 1>What is she pay for it? What did she pay

1465
01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:12.359
<v Speaker 1>for it?

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01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:15.640
<v Speaker 9>It was like it was with the extend the warranty,

1467
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:17.720
<v Speaker 9>and that I think it was right at one thousand

1468
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:19.079
<v Speaker 9>dollars more.

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01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear about the extended warranty. What

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01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:23.479
<v Speaker 1>does she pay for? The appliance.

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01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:27.680
<v Speaker 9>Was eight eight ninety nine with tax?

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01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:31.520
<v Speaker 4>Okay, now here's what I want to tell you, I'm

1473
01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:35.239
<v Speaker 4>no lover of the factory outlet, a factory appliance factory outlet.

1474
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:38.960
<v Speaker 4>In fact, Mark has become quite an expert at them,

1475
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:42.039
<v Speaker 4>he really has. I mean, he's delved into their paperwork

1476
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:45.159
<v Speaker 4>and exclusions and I'm going to be talking asking him

1477
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:47.840
<v Speaker 4>about certain things. But the way they operate is totally

1478
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:50.800
<v Speaker 4>different than any other Applian store. But she bought a

1479
01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:53.359
<v Speaker 4>new Samsung washing machine for eight ninety nine and two

1480
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:56.479
<v Speaker 4>twenty two from Applians Factory outlet. Now they're offering her

1481
01:20:56.479 --> 01:20:59.560
<v Speaker 4>three hundred and fifty dollars that. I just want to

1482
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:03.760
<v Speaker 4>say this, and I again, that is not entirely terrible

1483
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:08.159
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, not entirely, but but I would be

1484
01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:11.439
<v Speaker 4>pissed that I have to do it. Like, I don't

1485
01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:14.640
<v Speaker 4>even understand how can a Samsung. I mean, I have

1486
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:18.680
<v Speaker 4>a Samsung washing machine and I bought mine way prior

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<v Speaker 4>to that. I love my Samsung appliance. I love the

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<v Speaker 4>washing machine, right, but what would I don't even understand

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<v Speaker 4>why they would say it's not worth fixing. What's wrong

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<v Speaker 4>with it?

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<v Speaker 9>They the repair man really didn't say what was wrong

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01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:39.600
<v Speaker 9>with it. He just said it needed all these parts

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<v Speaker 9>and that he would order the parts. And then next

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01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:45.600
<v Speaker 9>thing we know, we get a call from the extended

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01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:47.399
<v Speaker 9>warranty people because it fell under them.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the name of the extended warranty? Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>See here, I talked to him a little while ago,

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<v Speaker 9>and they never gave it, gave me their name.

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<v Speaker 11>I have their phone number though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but wait a minute, you bought the extended warranty.

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01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Is it called the effect is? Is it the factory

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01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:08.279
<v Speaker 1>appliance outlet warranty?

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01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:12.119
<v Speaker 9>It's the factory appliance to extend a warranty.

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01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's the one they sell. But you don't know

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01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.039
<v Speaker 1>who the underwriter is, right, No.

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01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:21.439
<v Speaker 9>I don't know the name of the underwriter and company. No,

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01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:24.199
<v Speaker 9>I don't Okay, And.

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01:22:24.439 --> 01:22:26.119
<v Speaker 1>How much does she pay for that? About?

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<v Speaker 7>You said?

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01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:26.840
<v Speaker 15>So?

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01:22:27.039 --> 01:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>She paid approximately one hundred and fifty bucks for it.

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<v Speaker 9>For they extend to warranty. Yeah, two hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, so so far, and embrace yourself for this.

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01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:44.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm not hearing a big screw job. That's a reasonable

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01:22:44.119 --> 01:22:46.720
<v Speaker 4>price for a warranty. It was the reasonable price for

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01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:51.279
<v Speaker 4>the washing machine, and it was reasonable even to offer

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01:22:51.399 --> 01:22:54.399
<v Speaker 4>that three point fifty one. The only question I have

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01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:58.760
<v Speaker 4>is why it doesn't seem it seems weird. But Mark,

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01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:02.479
<v Speaker 4>I need to ask you Mark. Oh, no, I gotta

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01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:04.880
<v Speaker 4>take a break. I want to know how they operate,

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01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:06.920
<v Speaker 4>because Mark will tell you it's not the same as

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<v Speaker 4>if you went out and bought that at Home Depot

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<v Speaker 4>or at best Buy. Okay, So hang on and we'll

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01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:16.960
<v Speaker 4>figure out why. Yeah, we'll figure out how. I'm Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a furnace question here and they said, Tom,

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01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:05.600
<v Speaker 4>you said you needed a good furnace to make the

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01:24:05.640 --> 01:24:07.640
<v Speaker 4>air conditioner work. Does that mean I have to replace

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01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:11.479
<v Speaker 4>the furnace when I'm getting my AC. So, Bob, you know,

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01:24:12.640 --> 01:24:14.479
<v Speaker 4>do people have to do with them both at the

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01:24:14.520 --> 01:24:17.079
<v Speaker 4>same time. I mean, I would imagine they're both about

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01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:19.840
<v Speaker 4>the same age, right in most homes. Where have you

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01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:23.039
<v Speaker 4>ever found places where maybe the AC is way newer

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01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:24.960
<v Speaker 4>than the furnace, of the furnace newer than the AC.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's actually quite common. I mean, you know, a

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01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:29.920
<v Speaker 5>lot of a lot of homes, even new builds today

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01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:32.600
<v Speaker 5>don't have air conditioners to them. It's an option, and

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01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:33.960
<v Speaker 5>so a lot of.

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01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Hard or may they may have added it years later.

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01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>So let's just say so, let's say they added years later.

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01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:41.800
<v Speaker 4>So now they got an AC, the AC ten years old,

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01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:45.039
<v Speaker 4>let's say, but the furnace is twenty five or twenty six.

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01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:47.760
<v Speaker 4>You can just replace that furnace, right.

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01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:51.199
<v Speaker 5>You can just replace one component or the other, either

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01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:53.159
<v Speaker 5>the furnace or the air conditioner system.

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01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:56.199
<v Speaker 1>But if it's that old, if the air conditioner's ten

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01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:59.439
<v Speaker 1>years old, let's say, it's not going to be hard

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01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to find a to matches.

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01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:05.960
<v Speaker 5>It's well, it's it's not. But nowadays, the furnace and

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01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:08.600
<v Speaker 5>air conditioning systems that they've always worked in conjunction with

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01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:11.680
<v Speaker 5>each other. But now with with communicating systems and Wi

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01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Fi it's and all that, it's it's in an ideal situation,

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01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:21.319
<v Speaker 5>you really do want them together, right, but but it

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01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:24.880
<v Speaker 5>doesn't necessarily have to be that way. And so that's

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01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:27.239
<v Speaker 5>why it's so important to get somebody you can trust

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01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:32.279
<v Speaker 5>to explain the differences of you know, what, what your

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01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:36.199
<v Speaker 5>needs are, what you're hoping to accomplish, and and the

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01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:38.439
<v Speaker 5>thing to keep in mind too, is that the installation

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01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:41.000
<v Speaker 5>process is one of the most expensive parts of the

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01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:42.640
<v Speaker 5>furnace and air conditioning system, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the most important too, correct And.

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<v Speaker 5>But but my point is if you if you're replacing one,

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01:25:50.439 --> 01:25:53.000
<v Speaker 5>you'll play just a little bit more on installation costs

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01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:56.319
<v Speaker 5>to replace both, where if you're doing them separately and.

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01:25:57.880 --> 01:26:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Correct correct, furnaces are way cheaper as Yes, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 4>So Kelvin, let's talk about this now, this washer, she

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01:26:07.640 --> 01:26:09.960
<v Speaker 4>bought it had some problems with it. Now they're saying

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01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:12.119
<v Speaker 4>it's better to just replace it, and they'll give her

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01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:14.239
<v Speaker 4>three point fifty Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you remember? Mark says, a lot of their

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01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff's been taken down from their website. Mark, was your

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01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>recollection on how they did bid well, if.

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01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:26.439
<v Speaker 12>They sold steep into it, if they sold stuff as

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01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:28.760
<v Speaker 12>a second I mean, I'll call it a scratch and dent.

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01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:34.840
<v Speaker 12>They would generally warranty it themselves, meaning the manufacturer's warranty

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01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:38.079
<v Speaker 12>was void, there wasn't one, so they would fix it.

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<v Speaker 12>But the exclusions they had in their warranties were quite incredible.

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01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:45.359
<v Speaker 12>But they're no longer on their website. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 12>find a copy of them from the past.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe I remember Mark, didn't you say that?

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't you say that everything they sell they sell direct.

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01:26:54.399 --> 01:26:58.479
<v Speaker 4>They buy it and then resell it. They're not everything,

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01:26:58.680 --> 01:27:03.319
<v Speaker 4>not everything, okay, but a lot of the stuff you buy,

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01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:05.399
<v Speaker 4>you're buying scratch and dents.

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01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:07.920
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, some of the scratch and dents, like maybe they

1595
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:11.000
<v Speaker 12>bought them from a builder that can't use them anymore,

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01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:13.520
<v Speaker 12>so they're not buying them from the manufacturer. But I

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01:27:13.640 --> 01:27:17.840
<v Speaker 12>do believe they also sell stuff with a manufacturer's warranty.

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01:27:20.439 --> 01:27:23.720
<v Speaker 12>But either way, the manufacturer's warranty is going to be

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01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:25.920
<v Speaker 12>out on this. Most of them are only one year,

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01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:29.680
<v Speaker 12>so they're definitely going to be under that service contract.

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<v Speaker 12>To me, i'd be curious to look at that extended

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01:27:32.560 --> 01:27:36.000
<v Speaker 12>warranty to see if there's a dollar amount they'll only.

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<v Speaker 1>Pay up to.

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01:27:36.880 --> 01:27:39.439
<v Speaker 12>Because it's kind of odd they're saying, hey, we don't

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01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:41.880
<v Speaker 12>want to fix it because it's too expensive, but we'll

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01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:44.199
<v Speaker 12>give you four hundred bucks. I mean, if the warranty

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01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:46.640
<v Speaker 12>says that, fine, but if it doesn't say it, I

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01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:47.760
<v Speaker 12>think they need to fix it.

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01:27:49.359 --> 01:27:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Kelvin, did you look at the warranty and their offer

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01:27:52.239 --> 01:27:53.079
<v Speaker 1>and how it looks?

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<v Speaker 15>You know?

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01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:55.479
<v Speaker 1>And have you looked at it?

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01:27:57.119 --> 01:27:59.279
<v Speaker 9>I tried to pull it up online. They told me

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01:27:59.359 --> 01:28:01.640
<v Speaker 9>to look up one and I cannot find it online

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01:28:01.720 --> 01:28:02.840
<v Speaker 9>through a plant factory.

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01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:05.119
<v Speaker 4>So you don't have a cop you don't have a

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01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:07.119
<v Speaker 4>copy of it. I don't like that idea of looking

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01:28:07.159 --> 01:28:11.119
<v Speaker 4>it up online because it's kind of like saying, I mean,

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01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:12.520
<v Speaker 4>they could have changed it since you.

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01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Bought it, you know what I mean?

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01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:14.760
<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to know the terms and conditions of

1623
01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the warranty your mom got. What are the terms and conditions?

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01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Did your mom get any kind of documentation on the warranty?

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01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:28.039
<v Speaker 9>The only thing it just says on the bill that

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01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:30.600
<v Speaker 9>she got it's a four year single appliant's warranty.

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01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, I'd love to look for it. Do you

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01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>have a copy of it?

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01:28:36.520 --> 01:28:38.359
<v Speaker 9>I just have a copy of the bill what we

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01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:40.880
<v Speaker 9>got with the numbers they have on it, and that's it.

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01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:46.319
<v Speaker 9>That's all she has. I know when she bought it,

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01:28:46.479 --> 01:28:49.039
<v Speaker 9>the reason she bought it from, she said with the

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01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:51.239
<v Speaker 9>extended warrant. She when she bought it, they told her

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01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:54.399
<v Speaker 9>that if she buys the extended warranty that it'll be good,

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01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:56.439
<v Speaker 9>she'll have it, she won't have to worry about it,

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01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:58.640
<v Speaker 9>and that if anything breaks, they'll fix it, and if

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01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:01.079
<v Speaker 9>they can't fix it, they would replay. Is what they

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01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:02.920
<v Speaker 9>told her in the store to day she bought it.

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01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:06.720
<v Speaker 9>But we never got a copy of the extended warranty

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01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:09.239
<v Speaker 9>or anything they said. That was all online, is what

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01:29:09.399 --> 01:29:09.920
<v Speaker 9>she told me.

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01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you can't find it? No, and Martin, did

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01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you find it?

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01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:18.079
<v Speaker 19>Now?

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01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:20.640
<v Speaker 12>I'm trying to get a copy of the extended warranty.

1646
01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:24.319
<v Speaker 12>I'm chatting with someone on their website. But I have

1647
01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:25.640
<v Speaker 12>a feeling, okay, buy.

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01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can have someone during the show right now.

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<v Speaker 14>Calvin, Tom, Calvin, ahead, this is bo. Your mom bought

1650
01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:41.520
<v Speaker 14>this extended warranty. They're supposed to fix it. I would

1651
01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:44.760
<v Speaker 14>just call over there. You probably got a technician out

1652
01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:46.960
<v Speaker 14>there that didn't really know what he was doing and

1653
01:29:47.279 --> 01:29:50.039
<v Speaker 14>was just going to try to throw parts at it.

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01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:51.920
<v Speaker 14>I think you should call up and say, I got

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01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:54.880
<v Speaker 14>this extended warranty, you're supposed to fix it. Now, get

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01:29:54.920 --> 01:29:55.840
<v Speaker 14>the machine fixed.

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01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any notes on the service call as

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01:29:57.960 --> 01:29:59.279
<v Speaker 1>to what's wrong with the washer?

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01:30:01.800 --> 01:30:04.640
<v Speaker 9>No, he never gave us any notes or anything. He

1660
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:06.800
<v Speaker 9>just said that he told my mother that he would

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01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:07.520
<v Speaker 9>order the party.

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01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:11.319
<v Speaker 4>Did the well No, What I'm asking is, did the

1663
01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:14.159
<v Speaker 4>appliance come when she bought it in a new box

1664
01:30:14.319 --> 01:30:17.000
<v Speaker 4>like a new appliance or was it a scratch in dent?

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01:30:17.159 --> 01:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you know?

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01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:20.960
<v Speaker 9>It was a brand new appliance that come and they

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01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:22.600
<v Speaker 9>delivered it in a box tour.

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01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:28.279
<v Speaker 4>But she never used the original She never used the

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01:30:28.359 --> 01:30:30.119
<v Speaker 4>original factory warranty.

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01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:34.199
<v Speaker 9>No, because that run out and she's only used the

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01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:35.319
<v Speaker 9>extended warranty on it.

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01:30:36.479 --> 01:30:40.359
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so she did have an actual fact she did

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01:30:40.479 --> 01:30:44.760
<v Speaker 4>have an actual warranty though, Yes she did.

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01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:50.680
<v Speaker 14>Okay, I think Tom and just tell him to us

1675
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:53.640
<v Speaker 14>that Calvin, I'll be happy to make a call over

1676
01:30:53.720 --> 01:30:55.920
<v Speaker 14>there for you and just see if we can come.

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01:30:57.800 --> 01:31:01.520
<v Speaker 12>Why says right here, guys, here's what I found. It

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01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:05.520
<v Speaker 12>says all plans no refunds will be made based on

1679
01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:09.640
<v Speaker 12>the replacement product cost difference. The most we will pay

1680
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:13.960
<v Speaker 12>and or be liable for on any single repair to

1681
01:31:14.079 --> 01:31:20.000
<v Speaker 12>your covered product or its replacement is the current depreciated

1682
01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:24.199
<v Speaker 12>price you paid for the original product at the time

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01:31:24.319 --> 01:31:27.279
<v Speaker 12>of the original purchase, excluding taxes.

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01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean that means the most they're going to

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01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:33.399
<v Speaker 1>pay for it is the depreciated value.

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01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:38.920
<v Speaker 12>It's almost like ACV policy on a roof, so that

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01:31:39.039 --> 01:31:42.479
<v Speaker 12>they're saying her fifty They're saying her washing machine right

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01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:45.720
<v Speaker 12>now if it was working, is worth three hundred and

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01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:48.199
<v Speaker 12>fifty bucks or whatever the amount is, and that's the

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01:31:48.319 --> 01:31:49.680
<v Speaker 12>maximum they'll pay out.

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01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:55.720
<v Speaker 4>Even so that's why if the repair equals more than

1692
01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:57.399
<v Speaker 4>what it's worth, they're not going to repair it.

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01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is like, that's just insane. So, I mean,

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01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:03.279
<v Speaker 1>why call it a fort mark?

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of like a used car. A used car

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01:32:05.920 --> 01:32:10.279
<v Speaker 4>warranty says that in a way. It says when cumulative repairs,

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01:32:11.039 --> 01:32:15.039
<v Speaker 4>not just the current repair, but the cumulative cost of

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01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:20.520
<v Speaker 4>repairs equals the mark the current market value of the car,

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01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:23.039
<v Speaker 4>then you have no more coverage.

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01:32:24.279 --> 01:32:27.199
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, but in this case it's it's really crazy because

1701
01:32:27.239 --> 01:32:29.359
<v Speaker 12>it's a freaking washing machine.

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01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Right, hold on a sect.

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01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:37.079
<v Speaker 4>Maybe we'll, uh, we'll we'll explore this some more coming up,

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01:32:37.119 --> 01:32:39.000
<v Speaker 4>but I'll take your other calls three h three seven

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01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:46.359
<v Speaker 4>one three eight two five five Go with a sure

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01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:49.880
<v Speaker 4>thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't

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01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:55.920
<v Speaker 4>pay a cent until you're content. Time for an insurance

1708
01:32:56.039 --> 01:32:59.680
<v Speaker 4>check up free, no obligation. In comparison, call Compass Insurance

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01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:03.199
<v Speaker 4>too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find

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01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:05.199
<v Speaker 4>out now three all three seven seven to one.

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01:33:05.319 --> 01:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Help.

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01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:08.399
<v Speaker 4>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

1713
01:33:08.479 --> 01:33:10.880
<v Speaker 4>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:14.039
<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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01:33:14.199 --> 01:33:15.119
<v Speaker 4>sixteen twenty two.

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01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I saw Martino.

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01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:27.399
<v Speaker 4>You're a troubleshooter at three O three seven one three

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01:33:27.560 --> 01:33:30.520
<v Speaker 4>talk seven one three eight two five five.

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01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So how are we going to leave this? What

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01:33:38.079 --> 01:33:39.439
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna do for Calvin?

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01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:43.399
<v Speaker 14>I think Calvin should get his wash his mom's washing

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01:33:43.479 --> 01:33:48.439
<v Speaker 14>machine fixed under the terms of the warranty. Yeah, instead

1723
01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:51.720
<v Speaker 14>of trying to buys, uh, spend more money for a

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01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:54.640
<v Speaker 14>new one. The agreement was to get it fit.

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01:33:54.840 --> 01:33:58.000
<v Speaker 4>But yes, but Mark said, there's a disclaimer and if

1726
01:33:58.159 --> 01:33:59.960
<v Speaker 4>if it's in the if it's in the agreement, there's

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01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:02.399
<v Speaker 4>not much he can do about it, true, unless we

1728
01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:04.720
<v Speaker 4>call it. If they have the choice, if they have

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01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:09.600
<v Speaker 4>the choice of buying them out at a ACV value,

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01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:13.800
<v Speaker 4>and that's the choice in the warranty, that's what they bought.

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01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Now, that's true. But if you could hunt that down,

1732
01:34:17.159 --> 01:34:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you want this one bone.

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01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:23.079
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I mean I met Chuck Ewing one time years ago.

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01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:25.920
<v Speaker 14>He's the owner of the place. I mean, it'd be

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01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:27.840
<v Speaker 14>worth for me to make a call, maybe make it

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01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:30.399
<v Speaker 14>right with these people and just get get her washing

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01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:32.520
<v Speaker 14>machine fixed. I'd like to take it on.

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01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:37.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay, now did it, hey, Kelvin, did it have a

1739
01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:39.840
<v Speaker 4>lot of problems or just a few problems?

1740
01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>How many times have has she had to use the warranty?

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01:34:42.359 --> 01:34:44.399
<v Speaker 9>In other words, twice?

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01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's not bad. And this is the second one? Wait? Wait,

1743
01:34:52.239 --> 01:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>so would this be the third one or is this

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01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:55.479
<v Speaker 1>the second one?

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01:34:57.319 --> 01:34:59.760
<v Speaker 9>The first repair income out? He said it needed some

1746
01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:02.399
<v Speaker 9>and then he said it needed and yeah, but no, what.

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01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:05.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm asking what Calvin, I'm asking in the life of

1748
01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:10.960
<v Speaker 4>this appliance. How many different problems has she experienced? Okay,

1749
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:14.720
<v Speaker 4>this is the second repair. Okay, all right, thank you Calvin.

1750
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:17.079
<v Speaker 4>So Bo is going to be getting in touch with you,

1751
01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:21.680
<v Speaker 4>be waiting for his call, and again I think there's

1752
01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:24.600
<v Speaker 4>their offer doesn't sound terrible to me?

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01:35:25.159 --> 01:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Peggy, Hi? What's going on? Peggy?

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01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:30.520
<v Speaker 7>Hi?

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01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:34.920
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, this is Peggy.

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01:35:37.239 --> 01:35:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening. I'm listening.

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01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:41.399
<v Speaker 22>Oh go ahead.

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01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Are you on a speaker?

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01:35:46.640 --> 01:35:50.880
<v Speaker 19>Yes, only because I'm hearing impaired. And when I look,

1760
01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:53.760
<v Speaker 19>I have a I have a captain phone.

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01:35:54.279 --> 01:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>No, No, that's okay, that's okay.

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01:35:58.720 --> 01:36:00.119
<v Speaker 9>Okay, okay, what's.

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01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:03.800
<v Speaker 10>Okay?

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01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:09.760
<v Speaker 19>What I what I'm trying to access is homeowner's insurance.

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01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:16.000
<v Speaker 19>My former company canceled me, uh or let me know

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01:36:16.159 --> 01:36:19.000
<v Speaker 19>in January that I would be canceled by March sixth,

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01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:22.159
<v Speaker 19>which would have been my renewal dates.

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01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:30.199
<v Speaker 1>And why are they canceling you? Why are they canceling you?

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01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:34.640
<v Speaker 19>And they well, on the letters, they they said that

1770
01:36:34.840 --> 01:36:36.840
<v Speaker 19>they don't have to tell me why they're canceling. But

1771
01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:41.880
<v Speaker 19>I found out later it's because I have three claims

1772
01:36:42.600 --> 01:36:47.319
<v Speaker 19>within five years and that makes me high risk. Therefore

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01:36:48.119 --> 01:36:48.880
<v Speaker 19>they canceled me.

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01:36:49.720 --> 01:36:50.600
<v Speaker 3>And no one else.

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01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:54.560
<v Speaker 4>And they're right about this. They're right about that. They

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01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:58.039
<v Speaker 4>don't have to tell you squat and but they are

1777
01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:02.079
<v Speaker 4>also right that I don't know if it's the word

1778
01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:05.399
<v Speaker 4>right or wrong even matters. They can cancel you and

1779
01:37:05.560 --> 01:37:08.920
<v Speaker 4>that's what they're doing. So whether you agree whether it

1780
01:37:09.039 --> 01:37:10.479
<v Speaker 4>or not, that's just the way it is. So now

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01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:12.439
<v Speaker 4>you need help finding another policy.

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01:37:12.560 --> 01:37:19.239
<v Speaker 9>Right, Yes, I have to read what you said.

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01:37:22.039 --> 01:37:25.039
<v Speaker 19>Okay. One thing I want I would like to bring

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01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:29.279
<v Speaker 19>out upfront is that one of those claims I was

1785
01:37:29.399 --> 01:37:33.039
<v Speaker 19>told it would not go against me and it would

1786
01:37:33.119 --> 01:37:36.279
<v Speaker 19>not be in my record because they didn't pay anything.

1787
01:37:37.479 --> 01:37:39.720
<v Speaker 19>They wouldn't pay it, and the lady on the phone

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01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:42.000
<v Speaker 19>had told me this one will not go against you

1789
01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:45.600
<v Speaker 19>because we're not paying the claim. Well, it's on there

1790
01:37:46.279 --> 01:37:48.560
<v Speaker 19>and it's causing me not to be able to get

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01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:51.359
<v Speaker 19>insurance from any other company.

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01:37:52.319 --> 01:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>It comes back. Oh goodness, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Peggy,

1793
01:37:56.680 --> 01:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>this is what I need to know.

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01:37:59.479 --> 01:38:04.920
<v Speaker 4>What is the nature of this here this non renewal

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01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:07.439
<v Speaker 4>or excuse me, no, I mean the nature of the

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01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:08.560
<v Speaker 4>previous claims.

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01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>What were the previous claims?

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01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:14.680
<v Speaker 19>Okay, two of them were my roof, one was wind

1799
01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:17.920
<v Speaker 19>damage and one was hail damage, but the one they

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01:38:18.039 --> 01:38:21.079
<v Speaker 19>did not pay was water in my basement.

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01:38:23.359 --> 01:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you inquired about it.

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01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:29.760
<v Speaker 19>I inquired and the lady said, well, we can't.

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01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>We don't pay that and it.

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01:38:31.680 --> 01:38:32.800
<v Speaker 22>Won't go against you.

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01:38:33.079 --> 01:38:34.359
<v Speaker 9>But it is going against me.

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01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:36.600
<v Speaker 19>I've had I've called every major insurance.

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01:38:36.760 --> 01:38:40.079
<v Speaker 4>What they meant, Okay, Yeah, it is going against you,

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01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:42.600
<v Speaker 4>and you're not going to do it. Peggy, You're not

1809
01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:45.359
<v Speaker 4>going to do anything about it. I want to be

1810
01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:48.520
<v Speaker 4>honest with you rather than waste your time. You're not

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01:38:48.720 --> 01:38:51.239
<v Speaker 4>going to quibble over whether they paid anything or not.

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01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:57.279
<v Speaker 4>Because their definition of a claim is acclaim. See a

1813
01:38:57.479 --> 01:39:01.800
<v Speaker 4>claim is a request or an inquiry. It's not necessarily

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01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:04.680
<v Speaker 4>a paid or settled claim. It's a claim.

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01:39:05.039 --> 01:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you know I knew I knew someone who inquired

1816
01:39:08.520 --> 01:39:13.079
<v Speaker 1>about lost or stolen jewelry and it turned out to

1817
01:39:13.159 --> 01:39:15.079
<v Speaker 1>be nothing. They didn't pay anything.

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01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:18.520
<v Speaker 4>They then put in a claim, not put in a claim,

1819
01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:20.000
<v Speaker 4>but they asked about a claim for.

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01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh, the same household. I forget what it was for.

1821
01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a sewer back up.

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01:39:29.159 --> 01:39:30.800
<v Speaker 4>And then the third and they didn't pay on that,

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01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:32.960
<v Speaker 4>and then the third because it was a city's problem

1824
01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:33.399
<v Speaker 4>or something.

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01:39:33.760 --> 01:39:35.800
<v Speaker 1>The third one had something to do.

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01:39:35.920 --> 01:39:39.920
<v Speaker 4>With a broken window from hail and water, and they

1827
01:39:40.039 --> 01:39:42.800
<v Speaker 4>never paid on any of the claims, but they were

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01:39:42.880 --> 01:39:43.760
<v Speaker 4>canceled for them.

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01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:48.279
<v Speaker 7>Well, I don't want to mess over it.

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01:39:48.439 --> 01:39:50.279
<v Speaker 19>I just want to buy new insurance.

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01:39:50.399 --> 01:39:51.279
<v Speaker 15>I just want to buy it.

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01:39:51.399 --> 01:39:55.159
<v Speaker 1>No, I want to help you. Let's get let's get

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01:39:55.199 --> 01:39:58.319
<v Speaker 1>our insurance expert on you hang on. And what I

1834
01:39:58.399 --> 01:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>meant by quibba, what I meant was we we shouldn't

1835
01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>waste time with this company. What is the name of

1836
01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:05.159
<v Speaker 1>the company, by the way.

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01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:09.840
<v Speaker 19>The company that cancel my policy is SAFECode.

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01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Uh oh hm. You know what's the problem with that

1839
01:40:16.039 --> 01:40:23.119
<v Speaker 4>is is that they might uh okay, what a safe

1840
01:40:23.159 --> 01:40:26.119
<v Speaker 4>Code is a pretty mainline company. I got to figure

1841
01:40:26.159 --> 01:40:29.119
<v Speaker 4>out what's going on here? Were those other claims? Were

1842
01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:31.399
<v Speaker 4>those other claims? Okay, let's take a break. I'll be

1843
01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:39.880
<v Speaker 4>right back. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer

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<v Speaker 4>Excel roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until

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01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:49.439
<v Speaker 4>you're content. Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation.

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01:40:49.479 --> 01:40:53.319
<v Speaker 4>In comparison, call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage

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01:40:53.359 --> 01:40:56.000
<v Speaker 4>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh

1848
01:40:56.079 --> 01:40:58.960
<v Speaker 4>three seven seven one help. You'll think you're his only

1849
01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:01.479
<v Speaker 4>customer when you is Frank durand the real estate Man

1850
01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:04.960
<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:07.279
<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:16.880
<v Speaker 7>Ripped new need.

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01:41:16.840 --> 01:41:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Advice so you don't have.

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01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:21.079
<v Speaker 21>Come running.

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01:41:21.319 --> 01:41:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Just as fast as we can, Shooter's gonna help coming man.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Troubleshooter Show now, Tom Martino, Hey.

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01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:39.560
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<v Speaker 4>Renew Home Innovations dot Com three oh three nine are

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<v Speaker 4>We're getting our expert on, so hang on. I'll go

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01:42:30.079 --> 01:42:32.039
<v Speaker 4>back to you when we have our expert. But now

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01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:35.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to talk to Hetty about Sentrylink. Hetty, what's

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01:42:35.399 --> 01:42:36.760
<v Speaker 4>going on with Sentrylink?

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01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:39.479
<v Speaker 20>Hi, Tom, thank you so much.

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01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:39.960
<v Speaker 5>Hi.

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01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:44.960
<v Speaker 20>I have macielneration and I can see to dial the phone,

1881
01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:48.520
<v Speaker 20>and my daughter's here right now and she helped me

1882
01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:52.479
<v Speaker 20>dial dial Youth because we were at the hospital at

1883
01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:58.840
<v Speaker 20>University Hospital, so I had them come out Lulan. It

1884
01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:03.039
<v Speaker 20>was for a Century Link. And he looks at the

1885
01:43:03.159 --> 01:43:06.520
<v Speaker 20>phone and he can't find the phone connection around my

1886
01:43:06.640 --> 01:43:08.560
<v Speaker 20>house for the landline.

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01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I have wait a minute, hold on, hold on. He

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01:43:11.960 --> 01:43:14.119
<v Speaker 1>looked at what phone? Dear, what phone did he look

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01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>at that?

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01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:18.199
<v Speaker 20>I have a landline at my house and I was

1891
01:43:18.279 --> 01:43:22.039
<v Speaker 20>going to get another phone from the internet that has

1892
01:43:22.159 --> 01:43:25.039
<v Speaker 20>big numbers so I could see the dial out.

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01:43:26.439 --> 01:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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01:43:26.720 --> 01:43:27.680
<v Speaker 20>You can't see that?

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01:43:28.119 --> 01:43:28.159
<v Speaker 18>What?

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01:43:29.159 --> 01:43:31.399
<v Speaker 1>So what did he? What did? What did he do?

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01:43:32.520 --> 01:43:36.920
<v Speaker 20>He went around looking around the house because there's apparently

1898
01:43:37.399 --> 01:43:40.359
<v Speaker 20>a connection in the wiring on my phone.

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01:43:41.319 --> 01:43:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Now I get it.

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01:43:42.319 --> 01:43:44.439
<v Speaker 4>What I need to know is this the phone that

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01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:46.640
<v Speaker 4>you have. You want to get a bigger number phone.

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01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:50.039
<v Speaker 4>But the phone that you have, is it a cordless phone.

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01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:54.479
<v Speaker 20>Yes, it's a pan of Sonic's kidless phone. But I

1904
01:43:54.560 --> 01:43:56.880
<v Speaker 20>can't okay now that small numbers.

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01:43:57.239 --> 01:44:00.520
<v Speaker 4>Just hold on, hetty, hetty, I understand all this not talking.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just trying to discern something. You have a cordless phone.

1907
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<v Speaker 4>And do you know where the base is for that phone?

1908
01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Where you you set it in the base to charge?

1909
01:44:10.359 --> 01:44:14.359
<v Speaker 20>Yes, on the desk phone charger, got it.

1910
01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>And then and then that you plug in the base

1911
01:44:19.319 --> 01:44:23.640
<v Speaker 1>station you plug into the jacks on your wall, right correct?

1912
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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So you're telling me that a guy from Sentry

1913
01:44:28.920 --> 01:44:33.800
<v Speaker 4>Link could not tone that line, Well, well here's what

1914
01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:37.159
<v Speaker 4>it is. Well, then he's an idiot. There's no other word.

1915
01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:38.479
<v Speaker 4>He's an absolute idiot.

1916
01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:41.720
<v Speaker 1>And I can't even believe it because if you are

1917
01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:44.319
<v Speaker 1>plugged in somewhere, and you know what I mean. You

1918
01:44:44.399 --> 01:44:46.720
<v Speaker 1>know those plugins, the jacks on the wall, you have

1919
01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:48.399
<v Speaker 1>them at your house, right spoil?

1920
01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well hold on, but you do have how many

1921
01:44:53.159 --> 01:44:56.640
<v Speaker 4>jacks or or or plug ins are there around your

1922
01:44:56.680 --> 01:44:58.680
<v Speaker 4>house to plug in a phone if you want it.

1923
01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:00.840
<v Speaker 20>To come any street.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, good Now, now you're telling me you have

1925
01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:11.760
<v Speaker 4>four jacks. You have four jacks or five jacks or whatever,

1926
01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:12.319
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter how many. And this moron, I don't want to

1928
01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:19.199
<v Speaker 1>insult my morons. This idiot from CenturyLink could not find

1929
01:45:19.720 --> 01:45:21.119
<v Speaker 1>your main connection.

1930
01:45:22.359 --> 01:45:26.000
<v Speaker 20>Right he's set outside what's called.

1931
01:45:25.880 --> 01:45:28.800
<v Speaker 1>It's called the central office. He can't find the co

1932
01:45:29.640 --> 01:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>he can't find the interface.

1933
01:45:32.239 --> 01:45:36.600
<v Speaker 4>What this idiot does not understand is that he can

1934
01:45:36.720 --> 01:45:40.039
<v Speaker 4>plug in what's called a toner to one of those lines,

1935
01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:42.720
<v Speaker 4>to any of those jacks, and he can.

1936
01:45:42.680 --> 01:45:45.439
<v Speaker 1>Go outside and find out where that is.

1937
01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:48.760
<v Speaker 4>I could do it for him in ten minutes. And

1938
01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:53.479
<v Speaker 4>I don't work for CenturyLink. So what kind of a moron,

1939
01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:56.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, do we even need kind of do?

1940
01:45:56.600 --> 01:45:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Is? Plug in the new phone into the cords that

1941
01:45:58.680 --> 01:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>she's got right now?

1942
01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:02.840
<v Speaker 20>We tried to plug it in. It works for my

1943
01:46:03.039 --> 01:46:06.479
<v Speaker 20>daughter's house, but for some reason, it doesn't work with

1944
01:46:06.600 --> 01:46:07.960
<v Speaker 20>the wiring we have here.

1945
01:46:08.920 --> 01:46:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't wait a minute, wait a minute, it doesn't

1946
01:46:11.399 --> 01:46:13.840
<v Speaker 1>work with the wiring you have. Is it a cordless

1947
01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>phone as well? The big number phone? Okay, you have

1948
01:46:17.079 --> 01:46:20.199
<v Speaker 1>a big number cordless phone, and you took the base

1949
01:46:20.279 --> 01:46:22.720
<v Speaker 1>station and plugged it into one of the jacks at

1950
01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:27.520
<v Speaker 1>your house, right, and it won't act. You don't hear

1951
01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:29.479
<v Speaker 1>a dial tone, or you don't get a dial tone

1952
01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>or anything.

1953
01:46:30.119 --> 01:46:30.760
<v Speaker 7>The same jack.

1954
01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Now this phone is currently plugged into.

1955
01:46:33.399 --> 01:46:37.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good, good observation. Dragon, it's the same. You plug

1956
01:46:37.439 --> 01:46:40.079
<v Speaker 4>it into the same place this one is plugged into.

1957
01:46:40.039 --> 01:46:40.800
<v Speaker 1>And it won't work.

1958
01:46:42.079 --> 01:46:43.920
<v Speaker 20>Correct, it won't work.

1959
01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:47.399
<v Speaker 1>What happens? What happens when you click it?

1960
01:46:48.720 --> 01:46:49.439
<v Speaker 20>It's stabic?

1961
01:46:49.680 --> 01:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>No dial tone? No, But you put the other one

1962
01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:54.840
<v Speaker 1>back in and you get dial tone.

1963
01:46:55.720 --> 01:46:59.640
<v Speaker 20>Correct. And when he said we didn't have the right one,

1964
01:46:59.720 --> 01:47:01.960
<v Speaker 20>so he ordered the one he wanted us to order

1965
01:47:02.039 --> 01:47:02.800
<v Speaker 20>off the internet.

1966
01:47:03.319 --> 01:47:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, it could be it could be the phone that

1967
01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:08.760
<v Speaker 1>you bought. Do you have a model number and stuff?

1968
01:47:09.079 --> 01:47:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Did you buy it on Amazon?

1969
01:47:10.399 --> 01:47:13.960
<v Speaker 20>The model number on the phone? It's over there. Yeah,

1970
01:47:14.319 --> 01:47:15.199
<v Speaker 20>she has it here.

1971
01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Give it to me, Give it to me. I want

1972
01:47:17.680 --> 01:47:19.079
<v Speaker 1>to know the exact phone you bought.

1973
01:47:19.479 --> 01:47:22.039
<v Speaker 20>Okay, she's going to go get it just a second now.

1974
01:47:22.880 --> 01:47:26.439
<v Speaker 20>And he left his cell phone number with me and

1975
01:47:26.560 --> 01:47:28.720
<v Speaker 20>said when we get the new one, he'd come over

1976
01:47:29.079 --> 01:47:32.279
<v Speaker 20>and put it in and we we've called and called

1977
01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:33.760
<v Speaker 20>and left a messine and called.

1978
01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Wait wait and he so, did you get it? Did

1979
01:47:36.399 --> 01:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>you get another one?

1980
01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:41.920
<v Speaker 20>We got another phone? It's the same one. My daughter says,

1981
01:47:42.399 --> 01:47:43.159
<v Speaker 20>here you tell.

1982
01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:45.199
<v Speaker 1>You, okay, give me the model, give me the make

1983
01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and model, give me anything you got.

1984
01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:49.840
<v Speaker 20>Okay, just a second, my daughter's going to give.

1985
01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It to you. Sure, just a minute, Sure, thank you? Hello, Hi,

1986
01:47:56.119 --> 01:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>can you tell me what phone that is?

1987
01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:02.960
<v Speaker 23>Yeah, it's a S I think I m p L

1988
01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:05.840
<v Speaker 23>simple Photo dial six.

1989
01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it's s I m p l U.

1990
01:48:10.119 --> 01:48:14.039
<v Speaker 23>Huh, landline Photo memory and big button phone for.

1991
01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:16.720
<v Speaker 15>Seniors, Landline.

1992
01:48:18.399 --> 01:48:22.479
<v Speaker 4>Okay, done, Landline. I'm looking up Landline. Keep keep going

1993
01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:26.119
<v Speaker 4>with the description. So a simple photo, landline.

1994
01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:31.119
<v Speaker 23>Photo memory, big button phone for seniors. One touch diamos our.

1995
01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Simple landline Photo Memory. I got it. I got it, okay,

1996
01:48:35.039 --> 01:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and it.

1997
01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:38.800
<v Speaker 23>Will work at my house. It won't And I've tried

1998
01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:39.560
<v Speaker 23>every the.

1999
01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:40.319
<v Speaker 1>One I'm looking at.

2000
01:48:40.720 --> 01:48:43.199
<v Speaker 4>This is not this simple phone I'm looking at as

2001
01:48:43.239 --> 01:48:46.640
<v Speaker 4>a base. It's not a cordless phone. It's a regular phone.

2002
01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:47.600
<v Speaker 4>Is that what you're looking at.

2003
01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:50.800
<v Speaker 23>It's a regular phone. We were trying to It won't matter.

2004
01:48:50.920 --> 01:48:53.880
<v Speaker 23>Whatever outlet, we plug it in, and she has an

2005
01:48:53.960 --> 01:48:56.039
<v Speaker 23>extra landline that she turned off.

2006
01:48:57.159 --> 01:48:57.760
<v Speaker 1>No, I get it.

2007
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:01.199
<v Speaker 23>Okay, she has an extra lay in her bedroom that

2008
01:49:01.239 --> 01:49:02.960
<v Speaker 23>they could turn on and plug it in. And the

2009
01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:06.880
<v Speaker 23>guy couldn't find the box for the landline connections. That

2010
01:49:07.159 --> 01:49:10.920
<v Speaker 23>it's her wiring. It works in my house, she would.

2011
01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:13.640
<v Speaker 23>They have a cordless one they use right now. It's

2012
01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:16.399
<v Speaker 23>with a base, but she can't dial with it. So

2013
01:49:16.439 --> 01:49:17.359
<v Speaker 23>I'm going to put her back on.

2014
01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:20.359
<v Speaker 1>And I understand. I understand that. But why is that

2015
01:49:20.600 --> 01:49:23.800
<v Speaker 1>phone the old one working and the new one won't.

2016
01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:29.119
<v Speaker 1>We don't know, but it won't. I have a feeling.

2017
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling this.

2018
01:49:31.399 --> 01:49:34.239
<v Speaker 4>New big button landline phone that I'm looking at here.

2019
01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm just trying to see all of the I'm wondering

2020
01:49:37.880 --> 01:49:38.680
<v Speaker 4>if it's truly.

2021
01:49:40.439 --> 01:49:43.960
<v Speaker 1>It says it is partial.

2022
01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, this one says partial traditional landlines. Okay, I'm telling

2023
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:51.399
<v Speaker 4>you why.

2024
01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>This is not a wonky It is a void Dare

2025
01:49:55.279 --> 01:49:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you looking at it? This is a voice machine? Did

2026
01:49:58.560 --> 01:49:59.079
<v Speaker 1>you look at it?

2027
01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:00.760
<v Speaker 7>Dragon? Yeah, I've got a up on the screen over here.

2028
01:50:00.840 --> 01:50:02.399
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it could be a void phone, so it might

2029
01:50:02.479 --> 01:50:02.840
<v Speaker 11>be a.

2030
01:50:02.840 --> 01:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Little It is a void phone. That's exactly what it is.

2031
01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:09.880
<v Speaker 1>It it's it's a landline, but it's a voide. It's

2032
01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>not what she needs. She needs to I don't know

2033
01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:16.319
<v Speaker 1>if they even make them anymore. But there's nothing wrong

2034
01:50:16.359 --> 01:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>with her wiring. Okay, and there's nothing wrong with the phone.

2035
01:50:20.399 --> 01:50:23.239
<v Speaker 1>But she should You should return the phone, and you

2036
01:50:23.399 --> 01:50:28.920
<v Speaker 1>need a true what's called pots. It's called pots phone.

2037
01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:34.520
<v Speaker 1>It's called pots pot hot Listen, you know what pots

2038
01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and pans, pots and pans. It's the pots part of that.

2039
01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:40.039
<v Speaker 1>That's what you need. It's called pots.

2040
01:50:40.680 --> 01:50:42.000
<v Speaker 7>Now what that stands for.

2041
01:50:43.600 --> 01:50:49.119
<v Speaker 4>This is what it stands for plane old telephone service.

2042
01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:51.840
<v Speaker 4>I know this sounds crazy, but that's what they refer. Well,

2043
01:50:51.840 --> 01:50:54.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna look it up on Amazon. You just need

2044
01:50:54.359 --> 01:51:00.479
<v Speaker 4>a pots landline, okay. Now, because your phone looking for

2045
01:51:00.600 --> 01:51:05.520
<v Speaker 4>an IP or excuse me, it's looking for broadband. Let's

2046
01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:08.560
<v Speaker 4>see pots landline phone. Let me just do some searching

2047
01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:10.520
<v Speaker 4>here and see if we can find one.

2048
01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, there's all kinds. Who told you which phone

2049
01:51:17.319 --> 01:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to get?

2050
01:51:18.880 --> 01:51:19.560
<v Speaker 15>He did, the.

2051
01:51:19.640 --> 01:51:23.439
<v Speaker 20>Fellow from Luhman from uh, what do you call it?

2052
01:51:23.680 --> 01:51:24.680
<v Speaker 15>Centenary link?

2053
01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>No? I get it, I get it.

2054
01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:30.319
<v Speaker 11>No, I know it is a good.

2055
01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:32.199
<v Speaker 4>No, I know why he's doing it, because he's not

2056
01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:35.920
<v Speaker 4>thinking of your wiring. He's thinking of the phone itself.

2057
01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:38.960
<v Speaker 4>And it's a voipe phone.

2058
01:51:39.199 --> 01:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not what you have. VOIPE stands for voice over IP.

2059
01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:49.880
<v Speaker 1>That's not what you're looking for, although technically you could

2060
01:51:50.239 --> 01:51:52.920
<v Speaker 1>do you Do you have internet? Do you use Internet?

2061
01:51:54.159 --> 01:51:54.359
<v Speaker 19>Yes?

2062
01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:55.680
<v Speaker 22>Yes, he doesn't know how to.

2063
01:51:55.840 --> 01:51:58.239
<v Speaker 20>I don't know how. I don't know how to plug

2064
01:51:58.319 --> 01:51:58.520
<v Speaker 20>it in.

2065
01:51:59.760 --> 01:51:59.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

2066
01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:03.720
<v Speaker 1>No, But what I'm asking is do you have internet service?

2067
01:52:04.479 --> 01:52:06.600
<v Speaker 22>And I thought, yeah, just a minute, I'll put her

2068
01:52:06.680 --> 01:52:12.239
<v Speaker 22>back on. We had also used another phone this future

2069
01:52:12.359 --> 01:52:16.840
<v Speaker 22>called FC FC eight eight eight big button phone, and

2070
01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:20.479
<v Speaker 22>that did not either. And I don't know if that

2071
01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:25.880
<v Speaker 22>one had voice over internet too, or the landline they

2072
01:52:25.960 --> 01:52:26.479
<v Speaker 22>don't use.

2073
01:52:26.760 --> 01:52:29.560
<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you something. At her house right there

2074
01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:32.119
<v Speaker 4>where you are, her apartment or whatever it is. Does

2075
01:52:32.199 --> 01:52:34.439
<v Speaker 4>she have Does she have Internet service?

2076
01:52:35.680 --> 01:52:35.840
<v Speaker 10>Yes?

2077
01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:36.359
<v Speaker 1>She does?

2078
01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:38.399
<v Speaker 23>They have a mod.

2079
01:52:40.640 --> 01:52:41.000
<v Speaker 4>They just.

2080
01:52:44.159 --> 01:52:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, never mind, alright, forget that part. Okay. I think

2081
01:52:49.399 --> 01:52:52.159
<v Speaker 1>that it's a very simple thing.

2082
01:52:52.680 --> 01:52:56.600
<v Speaker 4>She needs a big button analog phone, just an old

2083
01:52:56.680 --> 01:52:57.520
<v Speaker 4>fashioned phone.

2084
01:52:58.119 --> 01:53:01.039
<v Speaker 1>That's how old is the building she find that one.

2085
01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:03.680
<v Speaker 22>Year old house.

2086
01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:08.119
<v Speaker 23>It's her house, Yeah, it's her house, and it's forty

2087
01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:12.039
<v Speaker 23>years old, and so you might be onto something because

2088
01:53:12.079 --> 01:53:13.920
<v Speaker 23>it worked in my house, probably because I have a

2089
01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:16.960
<v Speaker 23>voiceover internet, but she doesn't.

2090
01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and okay, so that's all.

2091
01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:24.479
<v Speaker 4>She just return returned that phone because there's no problem

2092
01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:27.560
<v Speaker 4>with sentry length, no problem with anybody. And let's try

2093
01:53:27.600 --> 01:53:30.399
<v Speaker 4>to source one of those phones who can take this

2094
01:53:30.600 --> 01:53:31.560
<v Speaker 4>case and help her out.

2095
01:53:32.880 --> 01:53:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I uh, I can take care of a looking Amazon

2096
01:53:35.960 --> 01:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and the one do DOC. You know, Doc actually coming Doc.

2097
01:53:40.079 --> 01:53:43.119
<v Speaker 4>You're pretty technical here we're gonna get We're gonna have

2098
01:53:43.199 --> 01:53:45.760
<v Speaker 4>somebody contact your mom or you off the air. Probably

2099
01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:47.800
<v Speaker 4>I'd rather talk to you off the air. What we're

2100
01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:50.520
<v Speaker 4>looking for, just so you know, it's a plane old

2101
01:53:50.720 --> 01:53:54.840
<v Speaker 4>we're looking for. It's that's what it's called pots, plain

2102
01:53:54.920 --> 01:53:58.439
<v Speaker 4>old telephone service. So we want a phone that will

2103
01:53:58.720 --> 01:54:03.000
<v Speaker 4>just plug into ACT and not look for IP but

2104
01:54:03.279 --> 01:54:05.600
<v Speaker 4>simply look for dial tone.

2105
01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:06.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what we want.

2106
01:54:07.319 --> 01:54:09.880
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not sure if they make them new anymore.

2107
01:54:09.880 --> 01:54:12.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean maybe they don't even make them new anymore.

2108
01:54:12.640 --> 01:54:16.760
<v Speaker 4>And that's what we're gonna have to figure out. Okay, Uh,

2109
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<v Speaker 4>we that this is challenging. It's challenging for people. We

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<v Speaker 4>have more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show three O three.

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<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom

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<v Speaker 4>Martina here, All right, let's keep going, and Brian Burns,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you for helping us out again.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a question.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a woman who she's not on right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Did she hang up Kachina? Keep okay, maybe she's listening.

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<v Speaker 4>But her homeowner's insurance Safeco is not renewing her due

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<v Speaker 4>to three claims within five years, two claims for the

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<v Speaker 4>roof and one claim for water in the basement that

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<v Speaker 4>they never ended up actually paying, but still they're done

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<v Speaker 4>with her. What does she do to find new insurance.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you guys good with these kinds of cases or

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<v Speaker 4>just with conventional.

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<v Speaker 8>Cases like exhaust the standard market first, see if we

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<v Speaker 8>can find someone that will take it. I still have

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<v Speaker 8>some carries. Depending on what years those are in, I

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<v Speaker 8>might be able to get someone on a standard market

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<v Speaker 8>for that. If not, we would have to go to

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<v Speaker 8>an excess market. But we could find a solution for her.

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<v Speaker 8>Is it difficult, yes, yeah, three claims in five years

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<v Speaker 8>is a lot only because that's why at least they

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<v Speaker 8>look at they only look at five years. She could

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<v Speaker 8>have She could be clean till the past, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>ten years prior to that, but it doesn't matter. But

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<v Speaker 8>it goes both ways. She also could have you know,

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<v Speaker 8>someone comes in and they have no claims in the

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<v Speaker 8>last five years, but they have you know, five claims

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<v Speaker 8>to ten years before that aren't even looked at. It's

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<v Speaker 8>just it's the only window they're looking at is the

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<v Speaker 8>five years. So three claims in five years is a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of claims.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if the one was just an enquiry, I know.

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<v Speaker 8>And that is easier to explain. Again, that's why it's

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<v Speaker 8>good to work with different carriers, because I have some

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<v Speaker 8>companies that still have underwriters that you can sit and

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<v Speaker 8>talk to underwriters explain the circumstance and you say, this

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<v Speaker 8>was just an inquiry. She was just looking at it.

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<v Speaker 8>She didn't even pay and don't work with you on that.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why I'm wondering if I could get a market

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<v Speaker 8>to take this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I mean is but she's automatically going to be

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<v Speaker 4>considered high risk right.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, yeah, even two claims in five years is not easy.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it's not like it's unheard of, but it's

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<v Speaker 8>not easy. It does disqualify her from a bunch of carriers.

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<v Speaker 8>A lot of carriers are underwriting standards right now. There

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<v Speaker 8>is one claim in five years. That's just what they

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<v Speaker 8>look at and it's almost like a black box. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>if it is outside of this, it declines. So you know,

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<v Speaker 8>that's when you have to actually go to work and

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<v Speaker 8>try to find have conversations with carriers and underwriters and

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<v Speaker 8>try to try to explain the circumstance.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I love having you on.

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<v Speaker 4>That's for insurance checkups to make sure you know you

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<v Speaker 4>don't get caught like this and you have a good

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<v Speaker 4>company and you have good rates and you're not under

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<v Speaker 4>insured or uh, you're not paying too much. Thank you, Brian,

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<v Speaker 4>And now we uh turn our attention. Somebody wants to

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<v Speaker 4>know about a water heater, Bob. They said that they

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<v Speaker 4>were told one time if they wanted more hot water

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<v Speaker 4>for a bigger home, they could do two water heaters.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the story on two water heaters? Yeah, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>do you use two water here?

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<v Speaker 4>So do you zone them meaning you send only one

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<v Speaker 4>heater to a one area of the house and one

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<v Speaker 4>to another or how does it work?

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<v Speaker 5>Now they're tied in conjunction with each other, So is

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<v Speaker 5>it just double whammy basically yes. So you can either

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<v Speaker 5>increase the size of it or get luck what you

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<v Speaker 5>have with a recovery system or a tankless So there's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of different options. But yeah, tip, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>typically we would go with a high recovery or a

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<v Speaker 5>tankless system before we we married another water heater with

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<v Speaker 5>with the existing one.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is an option, so it's actually in series

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<v Speaker 1>or is it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're in series. They're basically working back and forth

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<v Speaker 5>with each other.

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<v Speaker 4>So the water comes from one side only though right

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<v Speaker 4>at any one point, yes, and then it fills up

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<v Speaker 4>with the one from the other side. Doesn't make it

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<v Speaker 4>twice as hot if you wanted to. I mean, how

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<v Speaker 4>do you use them in conjunction with each other? It

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't just provide more hot water. It just it's simply

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<v Speaker 4>that's the water, but.

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<v Speaker 1>The temperature wise and pressure wise, and it is all normal.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all normal.

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<v Speaker 1>All it does is give you more hot water.

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<v Speaker 5>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So why would you ever need that? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even imagine that. So would you do to fifties? Two?

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<v Speaker 1>One hundreds to forties? What do people do when they

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<v Speaker 1>do double? It seems to me you just get one

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<v Speaker 1>big one. Why would you get two other ones?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean there could be a number of reasons,

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<v Speaker 5>but yeah, normally we would go with a higher like

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<v Speaker 5>a seventy five gallon or a fifty five high recovery

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<v Speaker 5>or a tankless system. Okay, very rarely do we put

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<v Speaker 5>two water heaters together.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, tell the answer. Very rarely. Yes, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a suggestion for the two water heaters.

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<v Speaker 14>I have one in my small apartment house, and I

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<v Speaker 14>really like having two water heaters.

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<v Speaker 5>I have two forty gallons in series.

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<v Speaker 14>And the reason I have that if one water heater

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<v Speaker 14>goes out, that building still has some residual hot water

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<v Speaker 14>for the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the tenants.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a good point, bow and that is that is

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<v Speaker 5>a good point why you would do it.

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<v Speaker 4>But wait a minute, are you to say that you

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<v Speaker 4>have two forties for an apartment house.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, it's only uh, it's only six units.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually one forty gallons for six units. In the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's taking a cold shower. Whether eighty gallons that the

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<v Speaker 1>total storage is eighty gallons.

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<v Speaker 14>I've never had a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't think that's that is to me sounds paltry.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't want to insult your apartment house. No, no,

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<v Speaker 4>really think about it. Six are there?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there six couples in there with kids or just

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<v Speaker 1>couples of the.

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<v Speaker 14>Working class folks? I think people some people work at

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<v Speaker 14>night in the morning, you know. But it's been a.

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<v Speaker 1>Great thing looked out because I just can't believe you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get complaints about people running out of hot water.

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<v Speaker 14>I've never had a complaint, even if the one water

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<v Speaker 14>heater went out and we didn't get to it for.

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<v Speaker 1>It with forty gallons serving six units forty eighty total

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<v Speaker 1>of eighty gallons.

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<v Speaker 13>Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, point, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know you said even when one goes out, you said,

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<v Speaker 4>even when one goes out on complant.

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<v Speaker 14>I will get a complaint. But at least they have

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<v Speaker 14>some hot water for the dishwasher, shower stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, thanks Bo, that has and I have

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<v Speaker 4>some questions for Bob later, Nachelle Love.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean, you have a comment on water heaters. Go ahead, Dean.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet?

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<v Speaker 11>Hi? Tom?

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<v Speaker 19>The uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah you were. You were talking about how to pipe

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<v Speaker 11>these things to get the most efficiency and the temperature

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<v Speaker 11>that you're after, and there's a recovery. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, if you if you pipe them in series, all right,

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<v Speaker 11>So you got let's say, just say you got two

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<v Speaker 11>of them, all right, two water heaters, two forty gallons

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<v Speaker 11>Pipeman series. The first one does the brute force heating

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<v Speaker 11>of the street water, bringing it up to temperature, and

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<v Speaker 11>then it goes through the next one and it comes

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<v Speaker 11>up with a finished temperature to try to regulate. So

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<v Speaker 11>you've pretty much got a good outcome of a finished temperature,

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<v Speaker 11>you see, because the second one is not heating from

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<v Speaker 11>the street from the tap.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 11>If you fight them in parallel, you're setting that load out,

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<v Speaker 11>but you run out of water quicker and they both

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<v Speaker 11>kind of drain down at the same time. And one

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<v Speaker 11>of the problems if you pay them in series, that

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<v Speaker 11>first one is doing all the work all the time,

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<v Speaker 11>and it wears out pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 4>Makes sense, I understand completely. Yeah, what you're saying makes sense.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't ever see the I think it's folly to

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<v Speaker 4>have two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>The only time I'd have two water heaters is if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm zoning them and making one for one part of

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<v Speaker 1>the house and one for another, two complete different systems.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never use them in parallel, nor would I

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<v Speaker 1>use them in series ever.

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<v Speaker 4>I would just get the biggest one I could get,

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<v Speaker 4>or I would go with constant flow.

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<v Speaker 1>But it makes no sense to me to just have

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<v Speaker 1>two regular water heaters.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, one of the things too, And you got to

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<v Speaker 11>take this consideration, why don't you start upping the BTUs.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, from like a forty to an eighty, you're

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<v Speaker 11>getting up in the commercial step. You've got an exhaust.

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<v Speaker 11>Deducting has to increased also, So you got that problem

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<v Speaker 11>you're gonna have to think about.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Okay, And do you know many people do you

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<v Speaker 4>know many people that do do water heaters together two

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<v Speaker 4>water heaters.

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<v Speaker 11>I've been I did the I've been in mechanical trade

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<v Speaker 11>for quite a while, and I saw all kinds of

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<v Speaker 11>configurations and apartments and hotels and out hospitals, all kinds

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<v Speaker 11>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know one thing that I think, go ahead, well.

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<v Speaker 11>Here here here was a guy. Have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 11>of a guy named Pat bro Now, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 11>he's one of the Okay, he's one of the Denver's

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<v Speaker 11>multi billionaires. He's real quiet, low profile guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You never actually heard of him.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh, anyway, he's got I got eighteen twenty thousand square

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<v Speaker 11>foot house with all kinds of water eaters and fancy stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>It's in the in the commercial category of mechanical stuff

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<v Speaker 11>in his house. And so we had he had all

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<v Speaker 11>kinds of stuff. So anyway, but you ask, have I

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<v Speaker 11>seen it? Yes, in residential a few in the high

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<v Speaker 11>end side.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, So what I what I think is is

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<v Speaker 4>there's another common sense thing that people could do that

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't cost a lot of money, and that is take

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<v Speaker 4>a big holding tank and not two water heaters.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, let's say, a good sized water heater is

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<v Speaker 1>fifty gallons, right, Bob, fifty gallons a good size.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a normal that's a normal size. You have forty fiftiest.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you go into a house, they want a

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<v Speaker 4>big one. Do you have one hundred gallon ones for

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<v Speaker 4>a house?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Normal?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean like like this color said, you're getting into

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<v Speaker 5>the commercial grade water.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you don't. So that biggest one you get

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<v Speaker 1>for a house is fifty.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we've done seventy five. And again like your's fifty

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<v Speaker 5>five high recovery.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So let's say fifty five high recovery.

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<v Speaker 4>Or any kind of fifty gallon tank you have, you

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<v Speaker 4>can put in a holding tank that does nothing but

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<v Speaker 4>holds water.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all it does. But it's uninsulated.

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<v Speaker 11>Here's the problem. It sits there unless you've got a

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<v Speaker 11>research between running it back and forth. It just sits

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<v Speaker 11>there and it doesn't get hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm talking about though.

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<v Speaker 11>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just all the holding tank.

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<v Speaker 4>Is doing is bringing it from ground to almost a

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<v Speaker 4>room temperature, and it's just sitting in a tank without

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<v Speaker 4>any insulation.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's fed into the water heater, and your

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<v Speaker 1>water heater works less and can produce more.

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<v Speaker 5>Because it's at room temperature close to groundwater.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's it's heating up room temperature water as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to starting from scratch in the ground. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>make sense to you, Dean, Well, how long is.

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<v Speaker 11>It gonna sit there before you need it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it sits there forever. You always have a constant

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<v Speaker 1>fifty gallon tank. You know, it's always there.

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<v Speaker 11>But you bring in the street water, you're gonna bring

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<v Speaker 11>it up to room temperature. And maybe unless you're just

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<v Speaker 11>using it in these apartments, God, the demands, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, no, no, I'm talking about for a normal house.

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<v Speaker 7>You're right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you don't know how long it'll sit there.

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<v Speaker 4>But most of the time people aren't you that much.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna have a big water tank. All I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>is it's just a sitting. It's just sitting. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>helping people to have a less burden on their system.

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<v Speaker 4>And again it's not the end all, but it's a

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<v Speaker 4>very common sense solution for some Tom, what question do

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<v Speaker 4>you have on retirement?

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Tom?

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<v Speaker 18>Hey, Tom, how are you hey? I'll be good man,

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<v Speaker 18>I'll be sixty seven July twenty First, I have social

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<v Speaker 18>Security two pensions, and I have entered the drop plan

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<v Speaker 18>at work, which they make a match. I don't know

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<v Speaker 18>enough about it because they just entered and I must retire.

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<v Speaker 18>I must retire by twelve one of twenty seven. I

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<v Speaker 18>will be okay, and I'm I'm doing that just to

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<v Speaker 18>keep my daughter on health insurance.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, what you have your plan.

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<v Speaker 18>You have retirement center at the Rockies, you have my

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<v Speaker 18>money mind? What direction would you tell me to go?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's hard to say in just this short amount

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<v Speaker 4>of time, So hold on, let me take a break.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll come right back to you though, and give you

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<v Speaker 4>a little more time. Okay, hang on, I'm Tom Martino more,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Tom Martino here, I want to go right to

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<v Speaker 1>uh Tom, So Tom, I need to ask your situation

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<v Speaker 1>bro real quick. He's gone there, Tom. Okay, Tom? What

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<v Speaker 1>is your income a year?

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<v Speaker 18>About eighty?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? How much debt do you have?

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<v Speaker 18>None?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and that's wonderful. And how many what investible funds

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<v Speaker 1>do you have now beyond an emergency fund in your

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<v Speaker 1>checking account?

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<v Speaker 18>I just have my there's money and a pen. Two

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<v Speaker 18>pensions and I have one that is taken care of

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<v Speaker 18>by one of the pension people. Okay, whatever is best

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<v Speaker 18>for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>How much cumulatively are all of your pensions and investments?

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<v Speaker 1>How much do they add up to?

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<v Speaker 18>Five hundred thousand?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, so your total estate is about five hundred. You

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<v Speaker 4>have an emergency fund? And then what assets do you

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<v Speaker 4>have on top of the liquid five.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred I have?

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<v Speaker 18>I'm renting right now, so I have nerdy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So now what is your question? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>do with this? What you do with it? You have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to work with.

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<v Speaker 10>What I would?

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<v Speaker 1>And how old do you fifty seven? Did you say

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<v Speaker 1>sixty seven? All right?

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<v Speaker 4>If I was sixty seven with the next egg of

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<v Speaker 4>five hundred various accounts as long as I had an

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<v Speaker 4>emergency account set aside that five hundred. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's put it this way.

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<v Speaker 4>There are people that you're going to go to, and

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<v Speaker 4>many of them are all going to say a fixed indextinuity,

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<v Speaker 4>fixed indextinuity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because you have a lump sum.

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<v Speaker 4>They want part of it, and they want a commission

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<v Speaker 4>on it, and they want you to have guarantee and security.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing wrong with that, but there are ways to have.

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<v Speaker 4>Guarantees and securities outside of the annuity market and not

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<v Speaker 4>be limited on upside potential and then gradually convert what

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<v Speaker 4>you need for income to a structured bond fund without

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<v Speaker 4>taxes where you don't have to pay tax on the money,

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<v Speaker 4>or you can go to an annuity at any time.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember annuities, it can always be going to later. They

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<v Speaker 4>never have to be done now or never, and because

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<v Speaker 4>they don't grow a lot. So the idea of annuity

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<v Speaker 4>is safety and income and you can always do that

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<v Speaker 4>at the last minute and instantly annuitize it. So if

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<v Speaker 4>I were you, Tom, and I don't mean this really

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<v Speaker 4>as a joke, I mean this sincerely, you should sit

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<v Speaker 4>down with us, and we can take a look at

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<v Speaker 4>everything you're doing and come up with some successions. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't mean as a client. I don't mean you

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<v Speaker 4>have to hire us. You never have to do anything.

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<v Speaker 4>And we would do that for your complimentary just because

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<v Speaker 4>they don't want you making mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is investing your money? Write down these various pensions.

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<v Speaker 18>One of the pensions, I invested the money myself twenty

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<v Speaker 18>thirty forty years ago and have never change it, but

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<v Speaker 18>it keeps on making money and my good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we would look at that.

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<v Speaker 4>We would look at that and compare that to other models,

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<v Speaker 4>let's say, to see if you're missing out on anything,

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<v Speaker 4>and we would take a look at each and every

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<v Speaker 4>one of those and make suggestions and you can most

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02:14:25.600 --> 02:14:27.800
<v Speaker 4>likely do it on your own. If you'd like to

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<v Speaker 4>do that, give me a call off the er or

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<v Speaker 1>We got more.

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