WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:04.919 GMRIS linking. Wow. Yeah, we did a video about that 2 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:09.199 a while back and spicy comments man, and a lot 3 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:12.000 of them did not go in the direction that I 4 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:17.800 expected them to check it out. So I made a 5 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:23.600 video about the fact that the gentleman who proposed the 6 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:27.239 new GMRS channels on VHF low band so around the 7 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:30.800 forty five to fifty megaherts between thirty five and forty 8 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:35.359 five megahertz banned a low band GMRS low band of VHF. 9 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:38.200 The same gentleman who made that proposal to the FCC 10 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:43.240 to add new channels to GMRS also made a proposal 11 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:49.119 to keep in place the restriction on disallowing GMRS repeaters 12 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:51.840 to be linked. In other words, he is against repeater 13 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:55.119 linking over the Internet. So I made a video about that, 14 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:58.240 made a video about that, and I called it three 15 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:03.320 critical risks of GMRS deregulation you must know, And I 16 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:04.840 asked during that video, I was like, so what do 17 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:06.680 you guys think? I was like, you know what, Generally speaking, 18 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:11.239 I'm against the FCC restricting GMRS users and repeater owners 19 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:16.000 from doing everything from doing things. I'm against more restrictions. Okay, 20 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:18.959 I say, lift as many restrictions as you can just 21 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:21.120 get rid of them. Okay, for the most part, that 22 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:25.680 sparked some comments, which is great. I really enjoyed the discussion. 23 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:27.439 I don't really care which side of the fence you on. 24 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:30.480 Thank you for commenting on that video. But I decided 25 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:33.159 to make another video about comments from the first video 26 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:37.040 because the comments were not going in the direction I 27 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:40.400 expected them to. So let's check this out real quick. Okay, 28 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:42.840 We're just going to start right here at the bottom, 29 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:46.560 and these are pretty much the oldest comments right here, 30 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:50.280 and this one right here says the first comment says, now, 31 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:53.200 I say yes on being able to link repeaters together, 32 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:55.599 and it should be repeater's own responsibility to control it, 33 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:58.920 which it already pretty much is. And then this guy, 34 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:02.280 the only comment to that, says, yeah, that has worked 35 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:05.000 so well with the North Georgia and similar groups, hasn't it? 36 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:08.039 Eye roll? Okay, So a few of the comments in 37 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:13.759 this video specifically talk about n GGMRS North Georgia GMRS 38 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:17.800 group okay, and some other comments talk about I think 39 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:22.159 that group but several groups that have put up GMRS 40 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:27.240 repeaters and started to charge people to use them. And 41 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:30.479 yet another set of comments Another theme of comments I've 42 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:35.680 seen is that people are linking multiple GMRS channels together. 43 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:39.319 So the theme throughout this video you're watching right now 44 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:44.080 is current repeater systems that are still linked even though 45 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.000 the FCC has come down and said not to link 46 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:49.840 them anymore. Pay to play, pay to play on If 47 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:51.479 you don't pay, then you're not allowed to use this 48 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:57.800 GMRS system. And thirdly, linking multiple repeaters in the same 49 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:05.039 metropolitan area metroplex metropolitan area, linking multiple repeaters together into 50 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:08.360 the same network using multiple channels. Okay, so those are 51 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.680 the three things we're gonna talk about today. We'll come 52 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:12.719 back to this North Georgia GMRS because there's a lot 53 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.639 of comments about that. So this guy agreed with me linking, 54 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:18.479 and again I mentioned in the video, I said, hey, 55 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:22.159 I said, generally speaking, I prefer that we are allowed 56 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:25.319 to link GMRS repeaters together, and this guy came along 57 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:27.280 linking should be allowed. If they are freaked out about 58 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:29.639 too many link repeaters in congestion, put a cap on 59 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:31.879 it similar to the maxi number of mestastic note hops. 60 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:34.719 I believe there are more positive aspects when LINKDN GMRS 61 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.639 prator repeaters than any theoretical negative aspects. Repeater operators should 62 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.680 be allowed that option, even if that is limited to 63 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.039 a few channels. I also think it is very poor 64 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.520 argument against repeter linking the arguments that were made against 65 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:50.080 linking in the previous videos. What he's referring to, I 66 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.919 think you can still link repeater's question mark. I know, 67 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.039 I know that's a pet peeve of mine and most 68 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:57.639 of people. Most people don't probably read it that way, 69 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:01.240 but this guy is asking me what he thinks because 70 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.319 he put a question mark at the end of a statement. 71 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:09.360 Moving on, okay, GMRS only has eight frequencies. We have 72 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.960 a guy who has several repeaters using different channels in 73 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.719 very high places and basically started interfering with other repeaters 74 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:18.600 in the same channel. There was a complaint by several 75 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:20.279 repeater owners and we have told him to stop by 76 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:22.399 the FCC. On personal note, I have zero interest to 77 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:26.000 conversations one hundred miles away, okay. Conversations one hundred miles 78 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:29.240 away okay. And I did a quick search just to clarify, 79 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.839 just to confirm. I was like, hey, groc, because AI 80 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.279 is the answer to everything, right, what is the purpose 81 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.399 of GMRS radio? Right there? And GROX says the main 82 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:41.839 purpose GMRS is to enable personal and family communications without 83 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:45.399 relying on sollular networks, especially in remote off gride areas. 84 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:50.399 It fills a gap between unlicensed FRS radios short range 85 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:54.000 low power and amateur HAM radio, which requires testing. Unlike FRS, 86 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:57.519 GMRS requires a simple tenere licensed thirty five dollars feeno 87 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.000 exam that covers the license holder and their immediate film, 88 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.160 making it accessible for use. But let's not listen to GROC. 89 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.279 Let's not listen to AI. Let's go over here to Wikipedia, 90 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:10.279 which GROC just pulls from multiple websites, and it will 91 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:14.480 tell you which websites is pulling form Wikipedia. General Mobile 92 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:18.279 Radio Service Land Mobile FM, UHF radio service designed for 93 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:23.480 short range to a radio voice communication voice communications. Some 94 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.639 people have mentioned APRS. Some people have mentioned digital keyboard 95 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:30.279 to keyboard designed for short range to a voice communication 96 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:34.800 and authorized under Part ninety five US USFCC Code. It 97 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:37.199 requires a license in the United States, but some GMRS 98 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:39.600 compatible equipment can be use the license free in Canada. 99 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.360 The US GMRIS license iss for period to ten years. 100 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:45.920 United States permits the use by adult individuals who possess 101 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:48.959 a license, as well as their immediate family members immediate 102 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:54.439 relatives gmrs. GMRS radios are typically handheld portables, much like FRS. 103 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.399 Gm RISK licenses are allowed to establish repeaters to extend 104 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:01.399 their communication range. However, RepA cannot be linked together over 105 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:05.319 the Internet nor connected to the public switch telephone network. 106 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:09.680 So somebody got on Wikipedia and made some updates. So good. 107 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:12.360 So it does say in the FCC documents that GMRS 108 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:17.279 is meant for localized, localized traffic where cell networks might 109 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.959 be spotty or not exist at all. It doesn't say 110 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:23.199 anything now if you dig down into it a little bit. 111 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:25.160 I'm not going to read the entire part ninety five 112 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:27.000 document right now, but I can link it in the description. 113 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.000 Blow you guys, let me know what you think. One 114 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:30.879 of the themes another one of the things. One of 115 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:34.639 the subset themes in this comment section of this last 116 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:39.399 video I made was MCom Emergency Communications, and GMRS was 117 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.480 not really ever made for MCom. Sure you can use it. 118 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:44.720 I'm not saying we shouldn't use it for that, okay, 119 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:46.600 But a lot of people are coming along saying we 120 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:51.120 should allow linking. We should do this because during emergency situations, 121 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:53.279 gmrs can or can't be used for this, And I'm like, 122 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:57.040 not really what it was meant for, not really what 123 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.800 it was not meant to do, skyworn or storm chasing, 124 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:03.480 weather spotting. National Weather Service doesn't get on gmrs and 125 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.959 use GMRS to communicate with spotters, not to my knowledge. 126 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:09.319 If that happens in your area, please comment blow I'd 127 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:10.519 like to know about it. I'd like to do a 128 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:14.160 whole other video on that topic, but suffice it to say, 129 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:16.240 this is not one of the things that they really 130 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:21.680 originally sought to do with gmrs. So maybe that could 131 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:25.160 be another video. GMRS as MCom and see what we're 132 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:27.480 talking about there. Well, let's move on to the three 133 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:31.040 themes of this video. I have to agree with you. 134 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:34.360 I live in a national radio quiet zone. Okay. I 135 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:36.920 like the idea of link repeaters. There used to be 136 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:40.040 a DMR repeater for GMRS in Pennsylvania, but it was 137 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:44.360 an experimental repeater. Some people have talked about DMR on GMRS. Okay, 138 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:47.240 I am for linking and the use of things like 139 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.720 Zelo to connect to Okay, not really what we're talking 140 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:52.519 about today. Here in Los Angeles, there are two repeaters 141 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:55.639 that use the RPT six hundred, but with different tones. 142 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:57.480 One of them always bleeds into the other. I think 143 00:07:57.519 --> 00:07:59.879 it's running one hundred watts. Okay, do you think the 144 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.439 FCC comes up with VHF frequencies that the price of 145 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:06.759 the radios can increase? Possibly? Yeah, possibly? Okay, here we 146 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:09.079 go here, so everybody up until now, up until now, 147 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.399 I said, yah, yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree linking 148 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:13.959 should be allowed. Okay, so let's take a let's let's 149 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:18.399 take a small turn here. No to linking. I operate 150 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:21.800 three GMRIS peeters in different areas with only eight pairs. 151 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:27.279 Linking different pairs hogs limited resources. If someone linked multiple 152 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:30.519 machines on one frequency pair and used a voter and 153 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.200 remote receivers, then that would be less of a problem. 154 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.559 That is true. So one theme that I found is 155 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:41.120 that people in fact, during the premiere video, somebody was 156 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:44.120 talking about how somebody in their area had linked multiple 157 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:48.320 channels together. There are sixteen visual frequencies that make up 158 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.480 eight repeater channels. I support the ability that we have 159 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.360 the ability to link repeaters, but as you said, linking 160 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.360 GMRIS reators will require FCC to designate certain channels for linking. Well, 161 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:03.279 maybe wrongly disagree There are not enough GMRS duplex channels 162 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:06.679 to support it. Your idea to designate a couple of 163 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:08.799 GMRS channels for link is the best idea I've heard. 164 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:11.000 I said that in the last video, So I said, 165 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.320 so here's the thing, Okay, I said, I was going 166 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.440 to talk about three themes today. Number one multiple channels. 167 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:19.240 So during the premiere video of this last video that 168 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:21.679 we were watching, one guy came along and he's like, no, 169 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:25.440 this shouldn't be allowed, because when it was allowed, someone 170 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:29.240 in my area had all eight channels linked together. So 171 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:34.679 there's eight designated GMRS repeater channels, and you can use 172 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:37.440 those same frequencies as simplex, but there are offset five 173 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:40.120 megger Hurts offsets for the repeater channels. And I don't 174 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.600 know about you guys, but I live in Dallas Fort Worth, 175 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:45.919 which is a pretty big metropolitan area. There are places bigger. 176 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.720 Houston Metro is bigger than US, Atlanta, you know, New 177 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:51.080 York City, of course, La San Francisco. Okay, so I 178 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:53.679 don't live in the biggest metropolitan area in the United States, 179 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:57.000 but I don't live in the sticks either. Okay. We 180 00:09:57.039 --> 00:10:00.200 have like four GMRS repeaters throughout Dallas Fort Worth there 181 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:01.960 used to be two in Dallas. There was one in 182 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:05.480 Fort Worth, one in Bedford, maybe one in Arlington. And 183 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:08.279 these are not really close by to one another, okay, 184 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:10.360 But in the major city of Dallas, the largest city 185 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.320 in this area, there was only like two maybe three 186 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:16.080 ever at one time. So you would need someone to 187 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.320 set up a link and have a repeater on like 188 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.879 channel eighteen and another repeater on channel nineteen, another repeater 189 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:26.799 on channel twenty and link all of those repeaters in 190 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:29.399 the same system. So I had said on my last videos, 191 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:31.480 like how about designating like a single channel or a 192 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.279 couple channels? Channel twenty one and channel twenty two. Just 193 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:36.720 off the top of my head, those are link channels. 194 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:39.279 Everything else is just for standalone repeater traffic. That would 195 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:42.960 be okay. That would eliminate the problem with linking. Linking 196 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:48.320 channels together anyway, I have never seen even when linking 197 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.320 was allowed. We had one repeater in Dallas that was 198 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:52.639 linked into a Texas system. We did a net. I 199 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:55.080 say we I checked into it like twice, didn't I 200 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:58.600 wouldn't part of the net. They did a net once 201 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:00.120 a week. I want to say it was on WENSDA. 202 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:02.039 I could be wrong. About the date though, But they 203 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:05.679 would do a net and we would talk to other 204 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.000 GMRS users throughout the state of Texas, and that where 205 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.679 I thought that worked well? Okay, but it was just 206 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:15.080 one channel. It was one channel on one repeater in 207 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:17.000 the Dallas Fort Worth area, and you had to tune 208 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:19.519 over to that channel to get into it. Where in 209 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.240 the world are there enough GMRIS repeaters put up where 210 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:28.279 every channel is being connected to a link system and 211 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:30.679 they're all so close together to one another that you 212 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.399 can't turn your radio doll without hearing the same traffic 213 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.120 on all eight GMRS repeater channels. Where does that happen? 214 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:40.600 If that's happening, then one of two things is happening. 215 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:44.799 Either one GMRS repeater owners are ignorant. In other words, 216 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:46.759 they don't know. They don't know that they shouldn't be 217 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:49.879 doing this. Okay. Why would you put up repeater on 218 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:54.399 channel eighteen and link it into a system when there's 219 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:56.960 a repeater two to five to ten miles from you 220 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:00.600 on channel nineteen that's already the same part of that system. Okay. 221 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.200 Are we looking at sad Ham's here, because that's something 222 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.679 a sad Haam would do. Why I'm not using that repeater. 223 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:09.960 I'm gonna put up my own repeater and then just 224 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:13.600 do the same thing over again. That's stupid. That's stupid. 225 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.559 Anyone who's doing that is dumb. Okay, Now it could 226 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.080 be that they just don't Maybe they don't know, but 227 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:21.519 how would you not know If a common user can 228 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:24.799 get on GMRS and tune through all eight repeater channels 229 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:27.600 and hear the same exact traffic linked traffic on all 230 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:30.000 eight repeater channels, I've never heard of such a thing 231 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:32.879 before making this video last time, I've never heard of 232 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:36.519 such a thing before reading that in the comments section, 233 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:40.240 I've never heard of that, and I've never experienced that 234 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:43.679 because I've driven around with my GMRS radio, scanning through 235 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.320 the channels well on road trips and talking on repeaters 236 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:48.000 here in the Dallas Fort Worth area, and I've never 237 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.759 seen that before ever at all. Thanks for the video, Jason. 238 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.240 Just by the nature of only eight channels, if linking 239 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:55.960 becomes a big thing, those channels could be very very busy. 240 00:12:56.759 --> 00:12:58.720 Note to linking for me as well. If the FCC 241 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:00.759 wants to add a few channels of why linking, than 242 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:05.039 good yep. GMRS Repeater Lincoln should be absolutely be allowed 243 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.559 just like HAM repeaters. See this is the comments that 244 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:11.879 I was expecting to see on this video. I own 245 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:14.759 and operate community gm rsipater and often collaborate with my 246 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:17.720 local HAM GMRS repeater owners to ensure no interference by 247 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.240 existing gm RS peters and expand our radio coverage areas responsibly. 248 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:25.200 We learned anything for the events of western North Carolina 249 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:28.279 during Hurricane Lean is that any communications? But if it's 250 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.799 all when it is needed the most. Giving the ability 251 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.639 for families, not just individual operators to talk to others 252 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:36.679 family members outside the area should be an FCC priority. 253 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.879 That is an FCC priority for hams, but not gmrs, because, 254 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:41.759 like I said, I don't really think GMRS was ever 255 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:45.159 really supposed to be used for InCom I would love 256 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:47.600 someone to point out an article where that's wrong. And 257 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:49.960 again I haven't read through the entire document in part 258 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.399 ninety five, so maybe it's in there somewhere. I don't know, 259 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.080 Maybe I should read that. I've read pieces of the document, 260 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.360 but not the entirety thing. Now, all this talk of 261 00:13:58.399 --> 00:13:59.960 what you can and can't do and all these restricts, 262 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:03.200 is all this limited bandwidth on gmrs. Yes, that's true, 263 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:08.279 and that's one reason why this low band proposal has 264 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:11.799 been mentioned. But if you really want to expand your horizons, 265 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:16.039 and you really want to go get a lot, a lot, 266 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.639 a lot more places to talk digital CW, digital voice, 267 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.440 keyboard to keyboard, whatever, check out Ham Radio Prep and 268 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:26.039 go get your first Ham Radio license. Ham Radio Prep 269 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:28.919 offers classes for all three courses. They offer classes for 270 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:33.240 satellites emergency communications something which again I don't think GMRS 271 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.960 is really meant for. 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This was written eight days ago. 281 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:05.039 At the time of this recording, you still have this, Okay, 282 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.120 One in particular has been trying to monopolize itnopolize Dot 283 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.919 six hundred for years. They are now spreading to other pairs. 284 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:16.159 It is a huge problem as they have areas where 285 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:20.080 they're stepping where they are stepping on everyone. You can't 286 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.120 even use GMRS in some of these areas. The FCC 287 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:25.440 does not have the bandwidth to police this. GMRS has 288 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:27.840 become the very bottom of the priority. As you said, 289 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:30.279 all of this can be done on the handbands. My 290 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:33.879 opinion after seeing firsthand what happens, is that they should 291 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:36.919 not allow linking in gmrs, keep up the handbands. There's 292 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:38.679 no reason that these folks want to build a link 293 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:41.879 repeater system and what he and someone comes along and 294 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:45.919 asks what repeater system is this exactly referring to Jcaes 295 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.440 thinking more of the lines of blue coom interesting, okay 296 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:53.000 here it is okay, so here this is one of 297 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:54.440 the themes I said. We were going to talk about 298 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:57.639 three different things, linked channels, which I mentioned that a 299 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:01.080 minute ago, pay to play, and which systems are currently 300 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:03.919 linked together. So we talked about this one in New Jersey. 301 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:07.919 Who knows about the North or the North Georgia GMRIS 302 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.039 system which apparently is still linked together, and who knows 303 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:12.080 about this one in New Jersey? There is a group 304 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:15.399 here that has all eight pairs tied up, linked and 305 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.720 paid to play, enforced the rules you have before you 306 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.240 make more rules. And again I replied, and I said, 307 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:27.679 it is stupid to link all eight frequencies together. Jason. 308 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:29.200 But Jason, you told me in the live chat that 309 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:33.039 doesn't happen. I've never seen it happen. I've never seen 310 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:36.480 that happen. Where is this guy? There is a group here, 311 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:39.360 he doesn't say where he is. Where are you that 312 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:44.639 you are linking channels together? Okay, let me explain something. 313 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:49.840 Linking repeaters together and linking channels together is not the 314 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:53.759 same thing. Okay, Yeah, you can do it, Sure you can. Okay. 315 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.919 Linking repeaters together means I have one in Dallas, I 316 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.039 have one in Houston. There's one in Oklahoma City. There's 317 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:02.679 one in uh Elpaso. There's one in Atlanta, there's one 318 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.279 in Podunk, Arkansas. And these are all linked together. They 319 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:09.960 may be on different channels, but there's one in the 320 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:14.599 Dallas area on Channel twenty or whatever channel, and all 321 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:17.119 the other channels are free and not linked into the system. 322 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:19.839 So what people were saying in the premiere comments of 323 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:22.880 that video were that there were people in a certain 324 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:24.599 area all in the same area, all the same and 325 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:28.039 I didn't really get the area. So where is this happening? Okay, 326 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:31.880 there are people in the same area linking eight repeaters together, 327 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:34.160 each eight repeater, each of the eight repeaters is on 328 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:36.200 a separate channel, and they're all tied into the same system. 329 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:40.000 That's dumb. Why would you do that? Why would anyone 330 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:45.119 do that? I hesitate to believe that actually exists. Number one, 331 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.359 I hesitate. Please. People have a way of exaggerating, especially 332 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:52.000 in YouTube comments. I have a way of exaggerating. But 333 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.839 maybe it is. I'm not saying it's it's not impossible. 334 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:57.000 But who does that? Again, I live in a huge 335 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:00.759 metropolitan area and I've never seen anything like that happened. 336 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:03.480 Who does that? And that's what they're talking about right 337 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:06.119 here in this comment. There is a group here that 338 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.839 lists all eight repeaters tied up, linked and pay to play. 339 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:11.839 I said, it is stupid to link all eight frequencies together. 340 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:15.160 But Jason, you told me that doesn't happen. You told 341 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.119 me in the live chat that doesn't happen. I said it, Yeah, 342 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.000 I did. I did say that. I did say that 343 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:22.839 it doesn't happen because I've never seen it happen, okay, 344 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:26.480 and I would think that people are smart enough to 345 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:30.920 understand the difference. The North Georgia GMRS group is doing 346 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.240 it as well. Indian somebody says, Indianapolis, question of Mark. 347 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:36.759 There's a group here that's tied up four pairs linked 348 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:38.480 and pay to play, but they won't even respond to 349 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:40.519 request to pay them, Not that I was going to 350 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:43.759 as far as I'm concerned, that's interferenced. Yeah, how are 351 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:45.319 they pay to play? It? Just top on them? What's 352 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.839 the barrier? Yep? Look up North Georgia GMRS group. Pretty 353 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:51.200 ugly stuff. Okay, I'm gonna have to look that up 354 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.759 and do some reading on that because that's one of 355 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:57.240 the link systems that is apparently still together. I've tried 356 00:18:57.279 --> 00:18:59.559 all the pl tones, they're using dcs. There's a lot 357 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:01.720 more to go through. One day, I'll give it a whirl, 358 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:05.759 all right, So once again, what who is doing that? 359 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:10.799 Who is doing this? Who is linking multiple channels together? 360 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:15.079 So as a general rule, I don't I don't like 361 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.559 the FCC giving us more rules and regulations, but perhaps 362 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.000 since there are only eight repeater channels, perhaps they should say, okay, 363 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.279 you want to link doing on channels twenty one twenty two. 364 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:27.400 But that's all, and don't do it anywhere else because 365 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.240 apparently people like this can't be trusted to actually put 366 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:34.000 together systems that work for everyone also pay to play. 367 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:38.799 What is up with that? What? Yeah, GMRS reputers are 368 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.119 open to everybody. They're open to everybody. Now. There is 369 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.119 such a thing as a closed repeater system in ham radio, okay, 370 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:45.960 but it's not closed like you have to pay to 371 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:49.160 be here. It's usually like a close to a group 372 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:52.160 or a club or a group or somebody who has 373 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.200 a closed repeater pair, and there's not really anything any 374 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.440 way they can enforce it, other than to just jump 375 00:19:57.440 --> 00:19:59.160 on there and say, hey guys, this is a closed repeater. 376 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:01.680 Oh okay, yeah, well move off. I was talking to 377 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:03.759 a friend on a closed repeater one time. We didn't 378 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:05.599 know it was a closed repeater. It was listed as 379 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:08.319 in repeater book as an open repeater. So we are 380 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:09.920 talking on it for probably twenty or thirty minutes, and 381 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:11.319 some guy gets on there and says, hey, guys, this 382 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:13.400 is a closed repeater. Oh okay, and we moved off, 383 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:15.119 no problem. I found out like a year later that 384 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:20.119 that guy was wrong nobody's talking about because that was 385 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:23.119 not a closed repeater system. But even closed repeater system 386 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.279 and HAM Radio is not pay to play. We don't 387 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:28.119 have to pay for that. Sometimes, I guess in theory 388 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:30.720 you could. You could say only club members can use it, 389 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.559 and you have to pay to join the club. Okay, 390 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:39.240 that's cool, but it's not like a it's not like 391 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:41.000 like you're getting a lot of other stuff by joining 392 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:42.920 the club. Then just the repeater system, it's not a 393 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:47.279 paid repeater system specifically and individually. I don't think paid 394 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:51.160 repeater systems should exist in GMRS. GMRS is the General 395 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:53.400 Mobile Radio Service. I don't think there should be any 396 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:55.680 paid systems at all. You don't want to spend money 397 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.359 put up a repeater, don't do it, No one's forcing 398 00:20:57.400 --> 00:20:59.400 you to. You want to put up a repeater, start 399 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:01.640 charging people before I get a commercial pair. That's what 400 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:04.799 commercial pairs are for. Okay, don't do that. So I 401 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:06.839