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Speaker 2: That's me Austin Montgomery alongside today. We got an hour
Speaker 2: left and we're gonna make the most of it. We've
Speaker 2: had some fun so far, at least I have. Hopefully
Speaker 2: you have as well. If not, you know, we'll continue
Speaker 2: to work on it. And we've got an hour to do.
Speaker 2: So let's stop right And we started off talking about
Speaker 2: the college football playoff. You know it's it should be awesome.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would hope that the games are really
Speaker 2: competitive and entertaining. I think you don't really have to.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I'm somebody that does wager
Speaker 2: on a lot of games, and that adds an element
Speaker 2: of I mean excitement, and certainly you can win and
Speaker 2: there's a great joy there. You know, if you watch
Speaker 2: and don't bet, and you don't really care, but you
Speaker 2: just enjoy watching the product, just love watching ball. Then
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're gonna enjoy yourself. But I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to think of a scenario with a twelve team playoff.
Speaker 2: It's not something where we think afterwards like, wow, that
Speaker 2: was awesome. We should have done this a long time ago,
Speaker 2: expanding the playoff and making it, you know, something like this.
Speaker 2: And I think it's set up well to where you
Speaker 2: didn't leave anybody out that can claim that they were
Speaker 2: I mean they are. They're gonna claim that they were
Speaker 2: treated unfairly, like Alabama, Ole, Miss South Carolina, Miami. Maybe
Speaker 2: they're doing that, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: they got to look at the mirror as far as
Speaker 2: why they didn't get in, and any of the teams
Speaker 2: that didn't get in I don't believe would have been
Speaker 2: able to win a national championship. And we'll never know.
Speaker 2: But you've got the teams that think that belong there
Speaker 2: and some really good matchups and I don't know who
Speaker 2: the who the best team is. I mean Oregon US,
Speaker 2: I mean certainly deserves to be able to, you know,
Speaker 2: have that top seed. They didn't lose a game and
Speaker 2: they're in the Big Ten, and you know, they're really
Speaker 2: building some special with Dan Lanning. But you know, overall,
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if they if they
Speaker 2: lose in the in their first game, just because you know,
Speaker 2: I don't you know, despite being unbeaten, I think they're
Speaker 2: they're beatable. I mean, nobody's done it yet. But like
Speaker 2: right now, if you look at the favorite right now
Speaker 2: to win the National Championship is in these I'm gonna
Speaker 2: see if these Have you looked at the odds here
Speaker 2: for the title winner Austin And some of this, by
Speaker 2: the way, is based off just the draw too, Like
Speaker 2: it's not just who they think is best. They look
Speaker 2: at the path now because you've got you know, twelve teams.
Speaker 2: But have you seen who the favorites are?
Speaker 3: I think when it first came out, it's Georgia, right.
Speaker 2: No, so right now it is Georgia. Might might have been,
Speaker 2: but you gotta keep in mind they found out shortly
Speaker 2: after the bracket was was was updated or it was unveiled,
Speaker 2: and they don't have Carson Beck, which actually don't think
Speaker 2: that that's that big of an issue for them, but
Speaker 2: they've now dropped down. But plus three fifty is Oregon,
Speaker 2: who's the favorite. Then after that it's plus three sixty
Speaker 2: with Texas, plus five hundred with Ohio State and plus
Speaker 2: five hundred with Georgia and then from there, I mean,
Speaker 2: the biggest long shot is Boise State and Clemson and
Speaker 2: Arizona State all at plus six thousand, SMU plus four thousand,
Speaker 2: and at Indiana plus four thousand. I don't know, like
Speaker 2: as far as like what I think would could happen,
Speaker 2: and yet there'd be some real juice there to make
Speaker 2: some money. I really don't know who I would go with. Maybe,
Speaker 2: I mean I was gonna say Indiana, but that would
Speaker 2: just be like a guess because they've only played one
Speaker 2: game against a team, and that doesn't mean they're not good,
Speaker 2: Like they may get to the end of the thing
Speaker 2: and be in the championship game, because there's not enough data,
Speaker 2: Like there's nothing that says they're not good. It's just
Speaker 2: impossible to know how good they are. Whenever the teams
Speaker 2: that they beat we all know kind of aren't great.
Speaker 2: That's not their fault. And I'm pulling for Indiana. We
Speaker 2: talked about that earlier. Me and Austin are riding with
Speaker 2: our man company, man John, because we want to see
Speaker 2: as Hoosiers keep dancing here in this tournament, but it
Speaker 2: would be such a risk. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: know what I would do, like I would I mean,
Speaker 2: I kind of think I would go plus twenty five
Speaker 2: hundred Tennessee. I mean, I think they're I don't think
Speaker 2: that they are likely to win it by any means,
Speaker 2: but it plus twenty five hundred, Like, you know, if
Speaker 2: they get past Ohio State, I feel like I could
Speaker 2: claim that they can they can beat anybody. Now, how
Speaker 2: State may be a little bit you know, deflated still
Speaker 2: from what happened to them in their rivalry game. And
Speaker 2: I think Ryan Day, the fact that Ryan Day it's
Speaker 2: kind of coaching for his job here seemingly it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I know the athletic director has said that regardless of
Speaker 2: what happens, but I think, you you know, it's just
Speaker 2: different Ohio State man like they don't like. And what
Speaker 2: really sucked for Ryan Day is that his results overall
Speaker 2: are still really good. They're still contending for national championships.
Speaker 2: They're losing to the rival, and they lost to him
Speaker 2: this year in a year where they really had no
Speaker 2: business losing to their rival. But an added element to
Speaker 2: Ryan Day's situation is that it's out there that last
Speaker 2: year you took a step back and that wasn't acceptable.
Speaker 2: So what are we going to do. Let's throw all
Speaker 2: the money at it, fixing it. Go hire Chip Kelly
Speaker 2: to call the offense. Go get the best class in
Speaker 2: the portal. As far as money like to pay the
Speaker 2: most probably when it comes to the portal. And of
Speaker 2: course you're paying Ryan Day a ton of money too,
Speaker 2: so that that's an added element to where people aren't
Speaker 2: saying that Ryan Day's a bump. Maybe they think that,
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's built for that job, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, but it's an it's it's a
Speaker 2: it's an added strike for him knowing that he didn't
Speaker 2: just you know, fall short and lose to the you know,
Speaker 2: lose to Michigan in the last game of the season
Speaker 2: that kept you from being able to play in the
Speaker 2: championship game. And then you didn't just lose in the
Speaker 2: first round, but you did it where you didn't really
Speaker 2: beat anybody worth a damn and you lost in the
Speaker 2: first game of the playoff to a team at home,
Speaker 2: like and by the way, are they at home or
Speaker 2: they is this? That is this that Ohio stated is
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a shoot it so one of the more
Speaker 3: intriguing matchups I think, because you got it's probably gonna
Speaker 3: be cold and miserable, so that'd be interesting.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I belie with what Herbstreet
Speaker 2: said whenever the bracket first was unveiled, that Ohio state
Speaker 2: right now, just where they are currently as a fan
Speaker 2: base and where they you know clearly what they feel
Speaker 2: about Ryan Day that they could get booed. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to get booed in
Speaker 2: their home stadium, but like if it's out of control early,
Speaker 2: which I highly doubt, I mean, they may kill Tennessee.
Speaker 2: You just never know. But and they're the ones that
Speaker 2: are favored in this game. But I just it sounds
Speaker 2: crazy to fire a coach who has such a great
Speaker 2: record that has not even really had like a down year.
Speaker 2: Last year they were out of the playoff, and that's
Speaker 2: a down year for them, but they were still really good.
Speaker 2: And this year they've got you know, two losses, and
Speaker 2: they're in continent of the playoff, they're hosting the game,
Speaker 2: so like all in all, people would die for those
Speaker 2: results other places, but not at Ohio State, and not
Speaker 2: when you know you've given this guy resources to where
Speaker 2: you feel like it's just another sign that even with
Speaker 2: a team that is built with any player you seemingly
Speaker 2: want because of money, acting head coach, becoming your play
Speaker 2: caller and hip, Kelly like, I would not be shocked
Speaker 2: if he does lose his job despite what the ad
Speaker 2: said and despite overall the results of being good, because
Speaker 2: it's just different. It's just different at Ohio State, all right.
Speaker 2: For Louisville, we did talk a little bit earlier about
Speaker 2: the opt outs for the bowl game, clearly going to
Speaker 2: be a little bit of a different team without these guys.
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck, Ashton Jealotti to Corey Brooks, and I think
Speaker 2: that was that about it. Let's see also a Maury
Speaker 2: Huggins Bruce, which you know, not to say that he
Speaker 2: won't be missed in some capacity, but obviously you know
Speaker 2: there were many games where you didn't really see him
Speaker 2: get a lot of action to make a big impact.
Speaker 2: But the others Tyler Shuck, Jacory Brooks to ash In Jelatti,
Speaker 2: those are you know, your three best players? I would
Speaker 2: say as far as well, I don't know, you got
Speaker 2: some good guys still playing in the game in the
Speaker 2: Bowl game, like Isaac Brown and Duke Watson, and it
Speaker 2: sounds like Quincy Riley's going to play. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's been confirmed, but he hasn't opted out just yet,
Speaker 2: so no clue what to expect. But man, I'm eager
Speaker 2: to see Pierce Clarkson if he's the quarterback. I would
Speaker 2: assume that he is. And you know, it's not like
Speaker 2: I'm going to be watching and hoping that he shows
Speaker 2: that we're gonna have like a real quarterback controversy, because
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case. I mean, maybe he
Speaker 2: does play really well and it's encouraging, but Jeff brom
Speaker 2: didn't go get in the portal and pay I mean
Speaker 2: not out of his own pocket, but he didn't go
Speaker 2: pay to get Miller Moss and and and have him
Speaker 2: like you know, I mean again, you've got to compete,
Speaker 2: you got to come ready to play. If he's terrible
Speaker 2: in practice, then maybe there would be something crazy happened.
Speaker 2: But like I just I want to see what we've
Speaker 2: got in a backup, and it's just He's we talked
Speaker 2: about the other day, the quarterback position is the most
Speaker 2: impacted position in all of sports when it comes to
Speaker 2: the portal and inn il because you don't when you
Speaker 2: don't have to rely on an unproven quarterback as a coach,
Speaker 2: you know what you're gonna do. Not do that. You're
Speaker 2: gonna go get somebody that is has has proven to
Speaker 2: be able to get to you know, to to win
Speaker 2: at a certain level and has experience. And you know
Speaker 2: when you when you get your first chance to cut
Speaker 2: your teeth at a quarterback moving forward, regardless of really
Speaker 2: where you are in the recruiting rankings and all that, Like,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's going to be at a different
Speaker 2: school than the one you committed to. I just do.
Speaker 2: I mean, not all situations will play it like that,
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of them do.
Speaker 2: Now the quarterback that did come in to you know,
Speaker 2: hopefully get Louisville in a position to be in the
Speaker 2: playoff next year. Tough to know because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of work to be done when it comes to the portal.
Speaker 2: But I'd say the quarterback piece is not one that
Speaker 2: many are worried about. With Miller Moss and he was
Speaker 2: on Let's see where was this? He joined a Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was on a I think it's the twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven Sports maybe maybe one of their shows on
Speaker 2: their platform, talking about his decision to come and play
Speaker 2: for Jeff Brohm. And here is what here's what Miller
Speaker 2: Moss had to say.
Speaker 4: It would be a tremendous honor to deliver coach brom
Speaker 4: his first ACES championships as the head coach of Louisville
Speaker 4: and then go on to have success down the road.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I've been a part of this for
Speaker 4: a little bit now, so I understand that, you know,
Speaker 4: making predictions or sorry, stating goals in December doesn't doesn't
Speaker 4: mean to Todd, and there's a lot of work that
Speaker 4: goes into that. But I think that'd be awesome and
Speaker 4: really here.
Speaker 2: For the school, the university, you know, So there you go.
Speaker 2: He wants to bring uh, Jeff bromis first a SEC championship.
Speaker 2: That would be that would be ideal. That would be great.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to happen, but man,
Speaker 2: that would be awesome. And uh, speaking of Miller Moss,
Speaker 2: I I got to start monitoring the text line, well
Speaker 2: not monitoring, and you guys can send whatever you want
Speaker 2: in and a lot of you guys do that, and
Speaker 2: it's a wild place there on the Yellen and Federal
Speaker 2: Credit Union text line. But I probably wouldn't have read
Speaker 2: the text I read about Miller Moss's mother. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have read that Mama Moss. And if
Speaker 2: I would have read it for the first time in
Speaker 2: a break, I wouldn't have come back and went to it.
Speaker 2: But I just kind of was reading it, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of like Burgundy tellprompter, like just you know, getting
Speaker 2: myself in trouble kind of going. So when it wasn't
Speaker 2: wasn't crazy. But if you listened yesterday you know what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. And our podcast listeners of course who
Speaker 2: listened after the fact, they were pretty active on the
Speaker 2: text line. And uh, real big fans of Miller Moss's mother,
Speaker 2: who seems like a great mother and she's a good
Speaker 2: quarterback and what you know that that that was my
Speaker 2: comment and I and I and I and I do
Speaker 2: stand by that. But yes, she's she's awesome, and I
Speaker 2: and she was going back and forth with UK fans
Speaker 2: when it comes to the uh, when it comes to
Speaker 2: the you know, which I don't know if I like
Speaker 2: that but hey, she's uh, she's willing to get in
Speaker 2: the weeds and go back and forth with BBN. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's a good that's a good sign right away
Speaker 2: that you know she's kind of she's all in and
Speaker 2: you know she's.
Speaker 3: She's great, she's DTF down to fan.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's right, Yeah, yep, that's that. Yep, you are correct.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, we will keep this thing rolling along.
Speaker 2: I do want to talk a little more Louisville hoops.
Speaker 2: The continuous nonsense about Vince Merrow being pursued for all
Speaker 2: these jobs is still something I find very hilarious and
Speaker 2: we need to revisit something we did discuss earlier this
Speaker 2: Netflix series that's going to feature the SEC this past season,
Speaker 2: and when they were in town to be in bed
Speaker 2: within the Kentucky program and really give you a behind
Speaker 2: the scenes look at what's going on with u K football.
Speaker 2: It just so happened to be the South Carolina game
Speaker 2: in the Louisville game, which is going to be great
Speaker 2: entertainment for Louisville fans, but for Kentucky fans, I'm not
Speaker 2: even sure if they'll watch it, and I don't blame them,
Speaker 2: but what I want to get to is sort of
Speaker 2: the risk that you that you take when you sign
Speaker 2: up to be a part of this part of the
Speaker 2: show and give people a peek behind the curtain, not
Speaker 2: knowing if you're going to be successful or not. So
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Speaker 2: All right, So this was this is one of those
Speaker 2: good stories this time of year, and hey, it is
Speaker 2: the holiday season, and it's always nice to be reminded
Speaker 2: at any point, regardless of the holiday season or whatever
Speaker 2: time of the year it is, it's always nice to
Speaker 2: be reminded that there are a lot of really good
Speaker 2: people out there that do really good things just because
Speaker 2: they want to be good people, and that doesn't get
Speaker 2: profiled quite as much as you know, and that's not
Speaker 2: really I mean, that's just life. That's not anybody's fault.
Speaker 2: But obviously crime is a big part of news coverage
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But how about this person who is anonymous
Speaker 2: here in Louisville, Kentucky at the I'm sorry, Southern Indiana
Speaker 2: just across the river, the Salvation Army in Southern Indiana
Speaker 2: received a big time donation from an anonymous person and
Speaker 2: it is a rare gold nugget and it weighed fifteen
Speaker 2: point five ounces and apparently that is very valuable. In fact,
Speaker 2: it's valued at over forty thousand dollarsesh. So they have
Speaker 2: their annual red Kettle campaign. Somebody came in donated it
Speaker 2: on Saturday. And again that's that's insane. I mean, somebody
Speaker 2: given forty thousand dollars knowing what that's worth and not
Speaker 2: wanting anybody to know who it was. I mean, like
Speaker 2: I say this all the time when it comes to
Speaker 2: people who are generous, no matter what your motive is,
Speaker 2: if you are in fact doing a good deed. You're
Speaker 2: doing a good deed, and that's a great thing. Meaning
Speaker 2: I think there's some people who would not be as
Speaker 2: generous if they didn't have the opportunity to get footage
Speaker 2: of it and post it on social media so they
Speaker 2: can look like a great person. But again, regardless of motive,
Speaker 2: it's still awesome that they're doing that. And those that
Speaker 2: do that but don't want to be don't want anybody
Speaker 2: to know. I mean, we're talking about somebody who is
Speaker 2: just a fun I mean I was gonna say, like
Speaker 2: the best people you'll find, and I kind of felt
Speaker 2: like that would have been an exaggeration. But actually, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure. It is like somebody who just wants to
Speaker 2: donate something and be generous and they're going to keep
Speaker 2: it to themselves, Like that's that's a special person. And
Speaker 2: I'm sure that happens a lot more often than you know.
Speaker 2: There's just this one instance across the river in southern Indiana,
Speaker 2: But I mean, that's that's amazing. So there are good
Speaker 2: people out there, believe it or not.
Speaker 3: See what you can getting into the college football playoffs
Speaker 3: does to you. It gets these Hoosiers are starting to
Speaker 3: get grateful. Man, I love to hear about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they put a few other gold nuggets in
Speaker 2: the nil bucket for mister Signetti, because you know that
Speaker 2: would That's where I feel like you'd be really generous
Speaker 2: if you're an Indiana fan. But anyways, the fundraising here,
Speaker 2: their goal they were able to. Yeah, the goal, it
Speaker 2: says here they have a goal throughout the en They're
Speaker 2: not done yet. Of course, Christmas season's not over, but
Speaker 2: they had a goal of raising three hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars. And of course this gold nugget, valued
Speaker 2: it over forty grand is going to go a long
Speaker 2: way toward helping them get to those efforts. So good
Speaker 2: stuff there, good vibes, no doubt. All right, let's not
Speaker 2: quick break. I don't know why I said that. We
Speaker 2: just got back from break. Anyways, this is where I
Speaker 2: start to realize there's so many things I want to
Speaker 2: try to get to it before we run out of time.
Speaker 2: And I'm just talking really fast that I'm all over
Speaker 2: the place. I don't know which way to go. But
Speaker 2: let's get to this. This Netflix series that the SEC
Speaker 2: was featured in. This this will come out this summer
Speaker 2: in July. In July of twenty twenty five, and it
Speaker 2: featured a handful of SEC teams, and they'll feature a
Speaker 2: handful of SEC teams next season, so it'll be a
Speaker 2: two part thing. And not every SEC team participated. And
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm trying to find one of the
Speaker 2: articles here that I have that tells me, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't I can't find the information here. Would they
Speaker 2: have let everybody be on it if they wanted to,
Speaker 2: or did they ask a certain amount of people and
Speaker 2: they turn in a certain amount turned it down to
Speaker 2: where they've been moved on to other schools. I really
Speaker 2: don't know. But the schools that decided to participate, Kentucky
Speaker 2: was one of them. And to know, and again, if
Speaker 2: you're Kentucky, I think at the time you would say yeah,
Speaker 2: because that's just more exposure and you probably believe you
Speaker 2: were going to have a good season and therefore it
Speaker 2: would be you know, a real it would be a
Speaker 2: win win for you. You know, not only are you having success,
Speaker 2: but it was part of it was profiled by a
Speaker 2: crew that's putting a show on Netflix. It's going to
Speaker 2: be watched by millions and millions of people. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, momentum is a big factor in college athletics,
Speaker 2: more so than it's ever been because you know, you
Speaker 2: can have no momentum and still potentially use your in
Speaker 2: il and get people to believe in you and hope
Speaker 2: that your success or your lack of success recently was
Speaker 2: an outlier, or maybe they believe that you're still a
Speaker 2: coach that you know, despite maybe not having success yet,
Speaker 2: that they're going to believe in you. So you can
Speaker 2: you can work around it. But man, if you've got
Speaker 2: if you've got nil resources and you've got momentum, meaning
Speaker 2: where like you're having success, you are you know, in
Speaker 2: the limelight, you got you know, momentum. Again, That's that's
Speaker 2: why I emphasize that word like that that can really
Speaker 2: really help you. That's why I think it was so
Speaker 2: important for Louisville football to finish the season strong where
Speaker 2: you know, they ended up winning their last couple of
Speaker 2: games in impressive fashion and finished eight and four. That
Speaker 2: wasn't a special season, but you know, last year, I
Speaker 2: don't think they ended with momentum. Right, they played in
Speaker 2: the AEC champ Game and that was great and they
Speaker 2: were they were able to navigate through that, but like
Speaker 2: it sucked last year having a ten and two regular season,
Speaker 2: a ten and four regular of ten and four season overall,
Speaker 2: Jeff Brawn clearly off to a phenomenal start here. I
Speaker 2: mean that was awesome, but it didn't feel you didn't
Speaker 2: have the feeling of it because the momentum was kind
Speaker 2: of had evaporated just because you've ended the season in
Speaker 2: terrible fashion. Still was a good year overall, but like
Speaker 2: the ending certainly impacted how it felt at the end.
Speaker 2: And you know, this time around, I think you know,
Speaker 2: there's clearly some setbacks that they had early on this
Speaker 2: year against good teams. The Stanford loss was awful, but man,
Speaker 2: they finished strong, and I think that can go a
Speaker 2: long way. So, you know, if you are doing all
Speaker 2: that and having success and you're featured on this like
Speaker 2: for example, South Carolina finished the season really strong too.
Speaker 2: They came up short and didn't make the playoff, but
Speaker 2: like they ended up being a really really good team
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. That's just on the
Speaker 2: outside looking again of the playoff. Well, if they're featured
Speaker 2: on this show, like that's only gonna make them even
Speaker 2: more attractive, I would say to fans. But most importantly
Speaker 2: like players that maybe you know, maybe they learned something
Speaker 2: about the culture at South Carolina that they didn't know
Speaker 2: about from this show. Maybe they were like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: seeing a side of Shane Beemer I've never seen before.
Speaker 2: This guy's awesome. I want to go play for him. So, like,
Speaker 2: there's no guarantee that you really benefit from it, but
Speaker 2: you got a better chance of benefitting from being on
Speaker 2: this show if things are going well, then if things
Speaker 2: are going poorly and clearly with Kentucky, they're going to
Speaker 2: be included in this show that comes out this summer.
Speaker 2: And the two weeks that they were here profiling Kentucky
Speaker 2: embedded within the program with their film crew talking to
Speaker 2: players and coaches, I'm sure it was when they played
Speaker 2: South Carolina, and it was also the week they played Louisville.
Speaker 2: And I don't think you could pick two weeks for
Speaker 2: Kentucky that would be worse to have included in this
Speaker 2: show than those two weeks. But you know, what are
Speaker 2: you gonna do? And I don't know if it'll really
Speaker 2: impact them at all, because everybody knows. By the time
Speaker 2: this is out there, everybody's gonna know that they finished
Speaker 2: one and seven in the sec but like, maybe there's
Speaker 2: some behind the scenes stuff that makes it look even
Speaker 2: worse than you realized. Maybe you've turned the page and
Speaker 2: aren't thrilled with where things are going, but you want
Speaker 2: to believe because you you're a fan. And then you
Speaker 2: see how you're reminded of how bad it was, and
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, why did I get myself hyped up?
Speaker 2: Why did I think we were Why did I try
Speaker 2: to convince myself things weren't going as poorly as they are,
Speaker 2: because clearly they are. So you know, if I was
Speaker 2: a Kentucky fan, I'm not even trying to watch it. It
Speaker 2: would be cool to kind of see your program, you know,
Speaker 2: behind the scenes in like a cinematic production like this
Speaker 2: with Netflix involved, but I also couldn't see myself like,
Speaker 2: all right, that's kind of cool, but I don't want
Speaker 2: to relive these bad moments. These were not good. This
Speaker 2: was sad. I don't like seeing, you know, Netflix profiling
Speaker 2: my team getting embarrassed by their rival in a game
Speaker 2: that really wasn't even as close as the final score indicated.
Speaker 2: So if you don't watch it in you're Kentucky fan,
Speaker 2: I just want you to know I understand. All right,
Speaker 2: so bracketology is really stupid, right, we can agree, can't we?
Speaker 2: So the latest bracketology, let me pull it up here
Speaker 2: from one and only Joe Lenardi, who I do. You
Speaker 2: know my beef is not with Lenardi, And I've railed
Speaker 2: on him for a while because you know, he's not
Speaker 2: like the best when it comes to predicting the bracket.
Speaker 2: He has it a couple of good years lately, but overall,
Speaker 2: like he's not. Like there are dudes who work a
Speaker 2: full time job doing a lot of different things that
Speaker 2: don't have anything to do with basketball or you know, analytics,
Speaker 2: but yet they do it every year and they are
Speaker 2: really good at predicting what the NAA selection Committee's gonna do.
Speaker 2: And Lenardi, you know, he's not great, but yet because
Speaker 2: he's the guy that does it on ESPN and most
Speaker 2: of the games you watch around ESPN, they shove him
Speaker 2: in your face throughout the season and give this false
Speaker 2: perception that he has to say so and who gets
Speaker 2: in the tournament. And I'll be honest with you, I
Speaker 2: would be fine if Leonardi seed to the tournament because,
Speaker 2: as I've said, just like the college football playoff committee,
Speaker 2: why not have somebody where like this is what they do,
Speaker 2: this is all they do, having ads and chancellors and
Speaker 2: conference commissioners involved. One, there's clearly some type of bias
Speaker 2: that you just have to hope that they're not going
Speaker 2: to have. But also like they got other proba. They
Speaker 2: gotta things going on to where like they're not watching
Speaker 2: as much ball as you know a die hard fan
Speaker 2: does and not have to said that a dieh herd
Speaker 2: fan would be more you know, but more you know,
Speaker 2: qualified to do it. But these guys have other stuff
Speaker 2: going on to where yeah they're great, they're professionals, they've
Speaker 2: had successful careers, but why not just have Lenardi do it?
Speaker 2: Who in fact, like that's all he does. And I
Speaker 2: think Lenardi's been wrong and he's easy to poke fun
Speaker 2: of because you know, he just is. But also I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody would claim that like he's biased like
Speaker 2: any Here's how you know somebody is not biased. When
Speaker 2: everybody thinks that that he's out to get their team
Speaker 2: and he's unfairly seeding them like that, that's that's the
Speaker 2: proof that yeah, he's not somebody you got to worry
Speaker 2: about showing favoritism. He's just gonna call it like it is.
Speaker 2: So anyways, I'm not anti Lenardi the guy. It's just
Speaker 2: annoying for me. It's more ESPN than than it is
Speaker 2: anything else. That just irritates me. But right now he
Speaker 2: has Kentucky as a one seed in his bracket, which
Speaker 2: doesn't really surprise me. They have two really good wins,
Speaker 2: and you know, their resume is gonna be I mean,
Speaker 2: I put it this way, if they beat Ohio State
Speaker 2: this weekend, they're gonna have a really good resume because
Speaker 2: even if they do lose many times in the SEC,
Speaker 2: because of how dominant the SEC has been as a
Speaker 2: hoops conference, I don't know if that's gonna really impact
Speaker 2: their numbers. Right Like, the amount of quad one, Quad
Speaker 2: two games in the SEC play this year is gonna
Speaker 2: be insane. You know, that's that's that's a dangerous thing
Speaker 2: if you're you know, if you're a team in that conference.
Speaker 2: But I look at the ACC, who again had another
Speaker 2: bad night last night. One of the worst teams, a
Speaker 2: team that isn't in fact good in the in the
Speaker 2: SEC is South Carolina. Well, they beat Clemson at home,
Speaker 2: the team that's supposed to be one of the best
Speaker 2: teams in your league. North Carolina, they got some talented
Speaker 2: players and they fought back against Florida, who's unbeaten, but
Speaker 2: they ended up losing. And Carolina, I mean, Carolina is
Speaker 2: gonna be an interesting case study because they're about to
Speaker 2: head into conference play and there's not a lot of
Speaker 2: great wins out there. I mean, the only win right
Speaker 2: now in the ACC that anybody has when it comes
Speaker 2: to you know, if surefire thing is Duke. I mean,
Speaker 2: Carolina is still a top thirty team in the Ken Palm.
Speaker 2: But Carolina right now is six and five, and yes,
Speaker 2: all their losses have coming against good teams, but they
Speaker 2: don't really have any wins to speak of. And you know,
Speaker 2: they may run through the ACC, but there's not going
Speaker 2: to be many good opportunities to get wins in the league.
Speaker 2: So like, it's just crazy to envision a scenario where
Speaker 2: Carolina ends up being the second best team maybe in
Speaker 2: the ACC, and they end up having a really good record.
Speaker 2: But in the non conference when they played all the
Speaker 2: good teams, they lost, and when they played in the ACC,
Speaker 2: they lost to Duke and then beat up on all
Speaker 2: the teams they were kind of supposed to beat up on.
Speaker 2: I don't think that would ever lead to them not
Speaker 2: making the tournament, But like, where do you see them?
Speaker 2: I mean again, they're now six and five with losses
Speaker 2: to Kansas, Auburn, Michigan State, Alabama in Florida. Give them
Speaker 2: credit for playing a really challenging schedule, but they've got
Speaker 2: this Saturday in the Champions Classic UCLA, who's top fifteen
Speaker 2: in the ken Pom. That's kind of like, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like it is their last chance to
Speaker 2: get a win of value in the non conference now
Speaker 2: when it comes to you know, the ACC. I mean again,
Speaker 2: the only team that that that you know for sure
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a lot of value when you play
Speaker 2: them and beat them is is Duke. Other than that,
Speaker 2: it's I mean, there's not They're not good wins if
Speaker 2: you get them, and if you and if you don't
Speaker 2: get them and you lose to a team that's you know,
Speaker 2: let's say Louisville knocks them off. That's not a terrible loss,
Speaker 2: but it's certainly not a good one, at least not
Speaker 2: right now. So currently with Lenardi, I didn't just bring
Speaker 2: it up to mention that that, you know, the the
Speaker 2: Kentucky one seed thing. But Louisville is not in the
Speaker 2: first four out or the next four out. They're in
Speaker 2: the second group. So of the like twelve teams on
Speaker 2: the outside looking in, they're in that mix of twelve,
Speaker 2: but they're in the late stages according to Lenardi, meaning
Speaker 2: I guess nine through twelve. So doesn't that mean you're
Speaker 2: on the bubble or no? Cause I get I mean
Speaker 2: technically like you're alive, you're within the bubble. I suppose
Speaker 2: if we're just gonna base it off of like if
Speaker 2: this was real, But I also think you'd consider if
Speaker 2: you are the last four in or the last four buys,
Speaker 2: you probably also were considered on the bubble. I mean
Speaker 2: you are, like you're in, but like it. It's bubbleish,
Speaker 2: bubbly as they say. So not great to see that
Speaker 2: Louisville's two best wins Indiana and West Virginia. Indiana is
Speaker 2: now currently in the first four out and West Virginia
Speaker 2: is in the last four buys, meaning they're in right now.
Speaker 2: But they don't have a whole lot of wiggle rooms.
Speaker 2: So these are things you got to keep up with.
Speaker 2: It's not like life or death, and it doesn't guarantee anything.
Speaker 2: But you want the teams that beat you to continue
Speaker 2: to be really good, and you want the teams you
Speaker 2: beat that could potentially like again, it didn't matter if
Speaker 2: U TEP ends up being good because you know it's
Speaker 2: U TEP. But like if you beat a team in
Speaker 2: your conference or you beat a team in the non
Speaker 2: conference that's from the power level, you want them to
Speaker 2: do well because it's going to give you a chance
Speaker 2: to get a win with more value. So currently Leonardi
Speaker 2: only he has four ACC teams in, and I'm trying
Speaker 2: to see hate that he doesn't break it down by seed,
Speaker 2: but obviously Duke is in safely with a Are they
Speaker 2: a one seed? Let me see? Now I can't not
Speaker 2: look because I'm just yeah, Duke is a two seed
Speaker 2: and Carolina is a nine seed, and then I guess
Speaker 2: who would be the other teams in. I mean pitt
Speaker 2: is a seventh seed, Clemson maybe yeah, Pitt is a
Speaker 2: seven seed and Clemson is a six seed. But I
Speaker 2: think this came out before Clemson lost last night. So anyways,
Speaker 2: I still think they can get to the tournament, but
Speaker 2: I just think it's ultimately if they do end up
Speaker 2: getting results and like they start beating all the teams
Speaker 2: they're supposed to beat, and maybe they steal a win
Speaker 2: against the team they weren't supposed to win. I think
Speaker 2: it if that plays out, it I'm not sure that
Speaker 2: it will, but if it does, I really think it's
Speaker 2: just gonna come down to how the committee views the
Speaker 2: ACC and that's just that's the ultimate coin flip. You
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Speaker 2: that'll make you more excited to tune in and join
Speaker 2: us on a Thursday. Because the conversation about Travis Hunter,
Speaker 2: who won the Heisman Trophy, in which position he's going
Speaker 2: to play in the NFL is a real debate because
Speaker 2: he's clearly good enough to be an attractive defensive back
Speaker 2: and a receiver, but no, no team is going to
Speaker 2: invest in him as one of those and not and
Speaker 2: let him play both like they're gonna they're gonna decide
Speaker 2: what he's gonna be, and maybe he will want to
Speaker 2: do both, but I don't see a scenario where a
Speaker 2: team will say, no, we want you. And I'm assuming
Speaker 2: defensive back is where he'll end U wouldn't you say
Speaker 2: that Austin, uh, like Travis Hunter, will probably be more
Speaker 2: attractive in the NFL as a dB than a wide receiver,
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Speaker 3: And so I've heard a lot more that a lot
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Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, he's such a dynamic playmaker
Speaker 2: that I could see a scenario where he'd be really
Speaker 2: really good at both. But but I don't think that's
Speaker 2: happening the avalue. Yeah, nobody's gonna let him play both.
Speaker 2: But the average salary of the five highest paid receivers
Speaker 2: in the league is thirty two million dollars, which is
Speaker 2: ten million more than the than the average salary for
Speaker 2: the top five cornerbacks. Therefore, you know, it's kind of
Speaker 2: like running backs. Adrian Peterson said something long ago that
Speaker 2: has always stuck with me, and it's that if he
Speaker 2: could have gone back to the moment where it was
Speaker 2: clear his future and flo ball was it running back
Speaker 2: at that age, you probably have some real ability to
Speaker 2: where you can probably play defensive back too, right, or
Speaker 2: maybe you know something else to where you know if
Speaker 2: you've got the if you're just a gifted athlete with
Speaker 2: a lot of upside and potential choosing running back. If
Speaker 2: that's really what you're best at and it's going to
Speaker 2: get you the most attention, then do that. But if
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Speaker 2: really good at a few different positions, I think you
Speaker 2: at this point choosing running back would be a foolish move.
Speaker 2: And again, not many are this gifted to where they
Speaker 2: can make that choice. But you know, the future and
Speaker 2: the money is is way more lucrative for those that
Speaker 2: are playing a position other than running back, because that's
Speaker 2: just what it's it's what it's turned into. Also something
Speaker 2: else we'll get tomorrow. Quinners is of course the Texas
Speaker 2: quarterback that that's going to be leading Texas in this playoff,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't necessarily want to go pro. But yet
Speaker 2: Texas apparently wants to. They want to move on and
Speaker 2: get the arch Manning era started for obvious reasons, and
Speaker 2: that could just lead to some of the one of
Speaker 2: the wildest things you'll see where like I think even
Speaker 2: if quin Ouers does really well in the playoff, like
Speaker 2: they want to move on from him, and if he does,
Speaker 2: then maybe that means he does go to the NFL.
Speaker 2: But he's not gonna be one of the first quarterbacks taken.
Speaker 2: And like it's just crazy to think that, Like could
Speaker 2: a team trade for a player, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like could could you know, could could the NAL package
Speaker 2: at one school go to Texas and then Texas sends
Speaker 2: the NL package for ers to a different school, Like
Speaker 2: I doubt that, but I mean I doubt that would
Speaker 2: ever happen. It sounds insane, but like we're in insane
Speaker 2: time right now when it comes to college sports. Anyways,
Speaker 2: we got a lot to get tomorrow and I hope
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