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They have a formidable foe and 18 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,119 the Cornhuskers, and we wish them well out there in Vegas. 19 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,520 It's a it's a place, a venue that we're well familiar, 20 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,799 familiar with here in Cougar Country. But I also want 21 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,960 to know what the future of Kyle Whittingham looks like. 22 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,759 Where's he going to end up? Will he take staff 23 00:00:56,799 --> 00:00:58,880 members with him wherever he ends up? If he is 24 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,880 he going to be a head coach out, is he 25 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,239 gonna be a DC assistant head coach elsewhere? Is he 26 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:07,120 just looking for a payday or is he looking to 27 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,840 continue just to coach right. I want to delve into 28 00:01:09,879 --> 00:01:13,239 that in this segment with a Utah Utes insider. 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Let's bring in Down and Dirty's very 44 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,159 own here on ESPN the Fan, we got Scott Mitchell 45 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:57,840 on the show. 46 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Scott, how you living? 47 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: Oh man? 48 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: I'm living the dream and it's not a nightmare. I 49 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,319 just need some clarification. Ben, Are you did it take 50 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,599 him two years to clean your house or they've been 51 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:12,120 cleaning your house for two years? 52 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: They clean it lickety split in one hour. But they've 53 00:02:16,039 --> 00:02:20,120 been cleaning my house for two years. They earned the 54 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:22,759 business two years ago. 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I know you caught up with Kyle Whittingham, 66 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:51,840 had a little one on one with him. 67 00:02:52,319 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: You know what's the vibe? Right now up on the hill. 68 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: How is everybody feeling about the future of Utah football 69 00:02:58,439 --> 00:02:58,840 right now? 70 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,759 Speaker 4: When Utah went to the Pac twelve, they made a decision. 71 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:06,560 You know, we weren't we weren't just going to be 72 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:15,639 here and be happy to be here. Staff UH to 73 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,639 to be competitive and going to four Pac twelve championship 74 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,599 games winning to them going to two Rose Bowls. I 75 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,919 think made a statement about where you know, where they 76 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,000 that they invested wisely and. 77 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: That you know, it was it was it turned out 78 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:30,479 to be a good thing. 79 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: Now now college football is turned the page and it's 80 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,159 going in a very different direction, and money and having 81 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:39,039 it is a. 82 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,479 Speaker 3: Very important thing. And so I think with this private equity. 83 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: UH decision, it's something they spent a lot of time 84 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,520 talking about developing. 85 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,199 Speaker 3: You know, it just didn't come out of the blue. 86 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: They realized that to be competitive in the conference in 87 00:03:52,719 --> 00:03:56,120 the country, that they needed money, and they needed more 88 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,280 money than they had and most programs do you know, 89 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:03,719 you see what's going on at EYU and and there's 90 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,599 an infusion of money into the football program and that's 91 00:04:06,599 --> 00:04:07,120 a good thing. 92 00:04:07,199 --> 00:04:09,599 Speaker 3: And so I think you Thaw felt that needed to do. 93 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: I think it also was like, Okay, we knew Kyle 94 00:04:13,199 --> 00:04:15,680 was going to retire at some point. 95 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: And I don't think anyone knew that. I don't think 96 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:17,600 Kyle knew that. 97 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: But we've also made it clear that Morgan Scalley's going 98 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:24,639 to be the coach in the future. So let's it's 99 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,040 kind of the right time. You know, last year didn't 100 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,480 end well. The team, you know, had a ten. 101 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: To two season. 102 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 4: This year was an incredible season that the two losses 103 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:40,319 were to two really good opponents, and you know, games 104 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,639 could go either way, you know, you know, break here 105 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,839 or there, they could change and so it. 106 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:47,759 Speaker 3: Was a very good season. 107 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,079 Speaker 4: And I think to risk the potential of a bad 108 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:54,879 season or maybe a really really good season and kind 109 00:04:54,879 --> 00:04:58,639 of prolonging the inevitable, I think they just said, hey, 110 00:04:58,639 --> 00:04:59,480 we're we've. 111 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: Got this private equity, we're moving in. 112 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:05,959 Speaker 4: A different direction in our program, and where it's headed 113 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:09,360 now seems to be the sensible time to make a 114 00:05:09,399 --> 00:05:12,040 break and go a different way. 115 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like there's still some optimism out there. 116 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: They're moving forward. 117 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:20,639 Speaker 2: They've decided to be aggressive, which is fantastic. 118 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,959 Speaker 1: Now out with the old, in with the new. 119 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,079 Speaker 2: But Kyle Whittingham has stepped down, but he's not out 120 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:29,959 for the count. He still has some juice. He says 121 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,079 he's in the transfer portal. He's willing to take on 122 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,839 another job. Do you think he's a head coach at 123 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,519 the collegial level. Do you think he's going to Michigan. 124 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,680 I know his name has been uttered by those in 125 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:44,319 ann Arbor. 126 00:05:47,079 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think he just wants to coach for 127 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:50,079 the sake of coaching. 128 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:51,439 Speaker 3: I don't think he. 129 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: Wants to make a lateral move, like to a program 130 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,279 in the Big twelve or the ACC. 131 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:58,879 Speaker 3: Or you know. 132 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,959 Speaker 4: And a lot of a lot of the really quality 133 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,920 jobs have of course been taken, and I don't think 134 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,199 he wants to really go anywhere. But boy, to me, 135 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:13,920 Michigan sure feels like a nice fit, and even a 136 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,319 nicer fit considering the chaos and the problems that they've 137 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:25,360 had with the science, dealing with their Sharan Moore and 138 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,680 just that whole situation. And and Michigan's a very proud program. 139 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:32,920 It's a program that has been one that's been a 140 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,319 clean program, and they do things the right way. 141 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: It's one of the top programs in the. 142 00:06:37,879 --> 00:06:42,319 Speaker 4: Country, and it feels like more and more a fit 143 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,879 for for Kyle Whittingham and and I think it. 144 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,399 Speaker 3: I think that goes both ways. 145 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,879 Speaker 4: The one thing, you know, that hasn't happened yet, Michigan 146 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,480 hasn't hired a head coach, and they haven't really said 147 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:56,839 who they're going. 148 00:06:56,879 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: I mean, there was some. 149 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,199 Speaker 4: Speculation about Kenny Gillingham and Kaylin de Boor and some 150 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,959 of these other coaches, and maybe they were on their list. 151 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: Who knows, And maybe. 152 00:07:05,639 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 4: There's something, you know, until this Bowl game is over 153 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,519 and Kyle is kind of gone from Utah. Maybe I 154 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,079 don't know this, but maybe Kyle can't coach, you know, 155 00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:15,240 or maybe he can't. 156 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. It seems like from his comments that 157 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:19,399 he probably can. 158 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: And if I was Kyle Whittingham and Michigan came knocking 159 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:28,800 on my door, I would be on the first airplane. 160 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:31,600 I'd be on the first bus. I would run to Michigan. 161 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,279 I mean, it's one of the top premier programs in 162 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:38,639 the country. They have a tremendous fan base. He literally 163 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,360 will have all the resources that he potentially could have. 164 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:44,639 Speaker 3: He'll compete for the best athletes in the country. 165 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,079 Speaker 4: And with the way he develops players and his program 166 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,920 and getting great talent. 167 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: That would just be a fun thing. 168 00:07:52,519 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: I'd love to see what happens and where he goes 169 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,639 with that. And I think it's you know, he's been 170 00:07:57,759 --> 00:07:59,279 coaching a long time, and I think it's one of 171 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:03,439 those things where you know, just just to experience it, right, 172 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,839 just to go, man, I went to I went to 173 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,879 the big House and and I got to sit in 174 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:10,519 a chair and I got to drive it around for 175 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,399 a while, regardless of what the results are, to have 176 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,360 that experience in your life and as a coach. And 177 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,839 he's really at a point where he still has the 178 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,319 juice to do it. He really still wants to coach, 179 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:26,720 but his family's grown. You know, he's kind of he's 180 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,000 kind of in a really good place. He's he's in 181 00:08:29,079 --> 00:08:32,879 a place where he doesn't have anything to prove, you know, 182 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,159 he can just go and just really enjoy and just 183 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,639 get into just being a great coach and and and 184 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,279 putting together a great program. 185 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,519 Speaker 3: I just think it's a beautiful fit. I hope it happens. 186 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: And again for me, it's all just speculation and hope. 187 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,120 But I don't I don't know that there's another job 188 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,759 or opportunity out there that would excite him, Like I 189 00:08:57,799 --> 00:08:58,480 think Michigan. 190 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,399 Speaker 2: It looks like there are a few other candidates there. 191 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,639 If he doesn't get the Michigan job, where else do 192 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,639 you think he could land? 193 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: Do you? 194 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,879 Speaker 1: And do you think he would take a d C. 195 00:09:10,879 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: At a DC position, assistant head coaching position at a 196 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,480 major power for university? 197 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: Those those? 198 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:17,879 Speaker 4: Uh? 199 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: I think those positions there. 200 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: I mean some of these dcs are getting paid three 201 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,200 three plus million. I know he's got a three point 202 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,960 four to five million sweetheart deal there as an associate 203 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,360 AD personal assistant to the AD and president at the 204 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,799 University of Utah. But do you think he just you know, 205 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:36,159 he takes an assistant head coach or DC role. 206 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: Well, you look at a guy like Chip Kelly who 207 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:43,840 went to Ohio State and won a national championships. Not 208 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:46,799 a bad deal, you know, if he goes into a 209 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,120 situation like that, And I mean there is some there 210 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:51,240 is some appeal to that. 211 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,759 Speaker 3: And the appeal is, Hey, all I gotta do is 212 00:09:53,799 --> 00:09:56,879 coach football. And that's that's why coaches get into this. 213 00:09:57,399 --> 00:10:01,399 Speaker 4: When you become a head coach, if head is like 214 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:05,399 headaches and heartache and you know, dealing with all the 215 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,840 things you have to deal with that aren't football related. 216 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:12,240 And I think that's something that I'm sure he loved 217 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:14,120 to do and be a part of. But there there 218 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,919 is a real appeal to just getting back to just 219 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:18,679 coaching football. 220 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: And if you again could go to the. 221 00:10:20,759 --> 00:10:26,159 Speaker 4: Right situation, the right you know, the right school, yeah, 222 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,879 that that might be appealing as well, but. 223 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: It has to be something significant. 224 00:10:34,519 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: It couldn't it wouldn't and it couldn't be just you know, 225 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,039 you know, just going anywhere to coach it. It'd have 226 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,039 to be the right thing. Otherwise I think he's like, yeah, 227 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,159 I'll just kind of sit on the sideline. Maybe I 228 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,120 sit for a year. Maybe I just take some time 229 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,240 off and uh and see, you know what comes up. 230 00:10:52,279 --> 00:10:54,919 Because because part of the challenge is the lateness with 231 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,879 which this decision was made and it still won't be 232 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:03,559 final until New Years and so with the transfer portal 233 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,480 coming up, and with you know, all the different things 234 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,440 that are happening, you really need to have been in 235 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,279 place by now. 236 00:11:10,759 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: So maybe it is sitting out. I don't know, but 237 00:11:13,759 --> 00:11:17,159 there's certainly whether it's this year or maybe a year 238 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,399 or so down the road, I think Kyle Whittingham definitely 239 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,000 will be coaching again somewhere. 240 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you wonder if the NFL would he be interested 241 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:27,440 at all in taking that leave to the NFL? 242 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: Or is that college ball the place for him? 243 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: I think there's some guys that it appeals to. 244 00:11:34,799 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, I've never in any conversation I've had 245 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:41,919 with Kyle like that. It's something, you know, maybe if 246 00:11:41,919 --> 00:11:44,559 it was with someone he was real familiar with, like 247 00:11:44,639 --> 00:11:48,120 Andy Reid, I know, his sons with the Chiefs, if 248 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:51,639 there was an opportunity to coach there, that that might 249 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,679 appeal to him, just just because of the environment. Now, 250 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,559 the Chiefs are kind of down right now, maybe it's 251 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,120 not the best time to be at the Chiefs. 252 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,639 Speaker 3: I remember level Edwards. 253 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,279 Speaker 4: Ask me one time about the Detroit Lions because they 254 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,360 really went after Lavelle hard and I could tell in 255 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:15,559 our conversation that it really intrigued him. 256 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: But he ultimately knew kind. 257 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,799 Speaker 4: Of his you know, kind of where he fit the best, 258 00:12:21,919 --> 00:12:26,360 and and even though it was extremely enticing, he's still 259 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:27,879 and I think he made the right choice to stay 260 00:12:27,879 --> 00:12:31,039 at BYU. But still, I think I think for every 261 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,759 coach there's always that allure of Hey, that's the big time. 262 00:12:36,519 --> 00:12:39,000 Can I coach at that level? Can I succeed at 263 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:42,519 that level? I think everyone has that feeling. But again, boy, 264 00:12:42,519 --> 00:12:45,919 it's that that's a that's a tough, tough place to 265 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,559 be a coach and uh and and it's it's a 266 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,159 brutal grind, even more more than colleges. So you have 267 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:58,039 zero life whatsoever as a coach there. I think it'd 268 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,639 be great at it. I think it'd be wonderful. But 269 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,840 I think for Kyle just I think he wants to 270 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,919 be selective and it's got to feel right and fit right. 271 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: Does he really want to leave Utah? 272 00:13:08,759 --> 00:13:08,919 Speaker 3: Right? 273 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: It's got What do you think he would ever entertain 274 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,919 going back to Zamah mater in coaching down the line 275 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,200 in the next couple of years, depending on how the 276 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,080 dominoes fall. 277 00:13:23,159 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, a lot of a lot of coaching, 278 00:13:25,399 --> 00:13:29,200 his relationships. I mean a lot of coaches that Kyle 279 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:31,679 has brought on, you know, or even brought back. 280 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,039 Speaker 3: I mean you look at Gary Anderson, who played at YOUTHA. 281 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: I played with Gary Utah and Gary left and was 282 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,039 it Oregon stayed at at Wisconsin. Kyle brought him back 283 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,480 for a year or so to coach and uh, you 284 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:49,519 know he's and Kyle's got a great relationship with Coloney 285 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:51,519 and j Hill and and a lot. 286 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: Of guys that are now at b YU. 287 00:13:53,279 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: And you know, it's one of those things though where 288 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:00,720 I think I think it could feel like it could. 289 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: Be more of a distraction. I don't know, you know, 290 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,840 I don't know that's a that's good. 291 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:10,159 Speaker 4: It would you know, if he if he felt like, hey, 292 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,519 b YU has really got it together, like they got 293 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,000 their NIO money together, that really have something here, maybe 294 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,679 maybe he you know, because he look, we went to 295 00:14:19,679 --> 00:14:23,360 school there. He's an alumni of the school. I believe 296 00:14:23,399 --> 00:14:26,480 that BYU means a lot to him. He met his 297 00:14:26,559 --> 00:14:28,879 wife there. I mean there's just you know, his dad 298 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,840 coached there. I mean, he's just the whole experience. Yeah, there, 299 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,279 there could be you know, under the right circumstances, and 300 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,399 that that's when your head coach has to feel really 301 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,440 confident in himself, you know. 302 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: And then some coaches aren't. 303 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:43,399 Speaker 4: You know, they're like, man, I don't want anyone that 304 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,759 potentially can overshadow me. 305 00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: But if you know, if he could go in there 306 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:47,720 and say, look. 307 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,679 Speaker 4: The the better, bigger minds that we have here were 308 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,120 the better we're going to be as a team. 309 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,919 Speaker 3: And and uh, you know, I don't know if Kyle 310 00:14:55,919 --> 00:14:56,320 would do that. 311 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,039 Speaker 4: I don't know if Coloney do that, But that would 312 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,240 be really interesting. That might be about as interesting as 313 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,240 I think any coaching spot Kyle could get into. 314 00:15:06,159 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: It would be crazy if he wanted to make things real, 315 00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:13,480 real interesting along the wahsat front, that would be one 316 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,360 of the most controversial moves in Utah, the state of 317 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,639 Utah athletics history, b YU, Utah football history. 318 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: That's what it would be, Scott, It'd be It'd be crazy. 319 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: I think it would be normal. Ben. 320 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: Look at this relationship between all these coaches and it's 321 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,080 so incestuous. It's like they all know each other and 322 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,080 they go back and forth coaching against and with and all. 323 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: This stuff and just be par for the course here. 324 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,039 We wouldn't even bat an eyelash Well. 325 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,279 Speaker 2: I think Utah fans and donors and the collective corporate 326 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,279 sponsor base, I. 327 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,879 Speaker 1: Think they think. I think they think differently. 328 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: You b. 329 00:15:49,159 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: YU fans would be like, Okay, let's go, we got 330 00:15:51,919 --> 00:15:53,679 we got Kyle back in the fold. 331 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,799 Speaker 1: You know, there would probably be a few. 332 00:15:56,279 --> 00:15:58,279 Speaker 2: Few individuals like I don't know if we should do this, 333 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,000 and like, no, if Kyle's willing to be a coach 334 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,360 at b YU and you have a job opening for 335 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,200 his specialty, well you bring him in with open arms. 336 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: I think, tell me what you think about this. 337 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:14,639 Speaker 2: Obviously UTAH is going to induct him into their Hall 338 00:16:14,679 --> 00:16:17,840 of Fame. I think b YU should induct him into 339 00:16:17,879 --> 00:16:19,120 their hall of fame as well. 340 00:16:19,399 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean he had a great career. 341 00:16:23,919 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: I just happened one day to pop on a video 342 00:16:27,559 --> 00:16:31,440 of Kyle when he was at d YU and they 343 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,919 were playing at Hawaii and he was all over the field. 344 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,639 You know, he was a whack defensive player of the year. 345 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:39,799 I mean he was on some really really good football 346 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:41,759 teams at d YU. 347 00:16:42,279 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: You know, all of what he did there sure alone, 348 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,519 I think should. 349 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,879 Speaker 4: Be fitting of him going to you know, to the 350 00:16:51,399 --> 00:16:54,440 into their into their Hall of fame. So much was 351 00:16:54,519 --> 00:16:59,360 focused on offense at b YU at that time, but 352 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,000 they were really good defensive. I mean, they were great teams. 353 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,279 They had some great defensive players all through Lavelle's era. 354 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: But just throwing the. 355 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:11,079 Speaker 4: Football got all the attention, as it should by the way, 356 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:16,279 Ben but uh, but but he was great and yeah, 357 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,799 he'll he'll definitely, he'll definitely be in the Utah Hall 358 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:21,559 of Fame. He'll get his name up on the on 359 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,119 the stadium here and I'd imagine it'd be pretty soon too, 360 00:17:24,759 --> 00:17:26,799 and well deserved. I mean, he was incredible at you 361 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,599 saw what he did there, and I know for me, 362 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,680 you know, when I went there in nineteen eighty six, 363 00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:35,119 I never imagined that the school would get to where 364 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,960 it got and it went places that I you know, 365 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,480 going to Rose Bowls and Power five Conferences was not 366 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:45,440 something that anyone saw happening. And he was right in 367 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,640 the middle of it and a big part of why 368 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,480 it was successful. 369 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have any unique perch as it relates to 370 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,319 the Holy War, the time, the era in which you 371 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,559 were recruited to Utah that was kind of the glorier 372 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,839 is yu football, right, and then you see this, you know, 373 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:08,039 like there was a reversal, right that you know from 374 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,599 you know, the Lavera era, and then Ronnie Mack took 375 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,319 over in the nineties and it made it competitive. And 376 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,920 then Urban came in after that and started to win more. 377 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,079 And then when when Kyle took over, it was back 378 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,799 and forth until you got. 379 00:18:24,599 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: Into the back twelve and then he dominated. 380 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: Now it's back in maybe BYU's favor the last three 381 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,680 go rounds. 382 00:18:31,759 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: Now that BYU has power for affiliation. 383 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,519 Speaker 2: Are we going to see kind of a splitting kind 384 00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:42,200 of similar to the Ronnie Mack era to Urban Mara 385 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,960 Urban era where where it was kind of fifty to 386 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,079 fifty or do you think it's going to be heavy 387 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,200 towards BYU. How do you see the win loss record 388 00:18:50,519 --> 00:18:54,160 going into the big twelve era of this Holy War? 389 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 4: I think the one thing that's always shocked me is 390 00:18:58,759 --> 00:19:03,759 that anything's possible, and you really do throw out records, 391 00:19:03,799 --> 00:19:08,039 you throw out talent bases. The game is shocking how 392 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,559 close so many of these games have been, and who 393 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:15,480 won and who lost, and it's just funny how that works. 394 00:19:16,759 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 3: So I see it. 395 00:19:18,759 --> 00:19:21,839 Speaker 4: I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be extremely competitive. 396 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,279 Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of. 397 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,079 Speaker 4: The rivalry, and I think what's happened where by us 398 00:19:29,279 --> 00:19:32,400 kind of you know, edged out forward and it feels 399 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,640 like the ball is in their court. I think it 400 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,119 doesn't sit well with the people up on the hill 401 00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:44,200 at Utah and so that your rival getting the best 402 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,960 of you actually makes you better and you go, look, 403 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,200 we got we gotta get better to compete, and we 404 00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:54,839 don't want the humiliation of losing. And I believe that's 405 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,400 passionate on both sides of this, and all that does 406 00:19:58,599 --> 00:20:02,240 is it just makes everybody better and it brings especially 407 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:03,599 with the affiliation to. 408 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 3: A power conference. I think I think the conference. 409 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,759 Speaker 4: Should really seriously look at this game coming at the 410 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:14,279 end of the season. If you would imagine, you know, 411 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,519 BYU eleven and one in Utah eleven and one going 412 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:22,680 into the last game of the season. 413 00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: Or or I think that I don't know if b 414 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,799 why had they lost? Did they lose to someone? 415 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,279 Speaker 4: I don't know, they may have Anyways, the point is 416 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:34,039 is both of these teams playing for going to the 417 00:20:34,079 --> 00:20:40,359 conference Championship College Football playoffs and really really squeezing every 418 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,720 ounce of what's great about this rivalryalt and letting it 419 00:20:43,799 --> 00:20:45,920 play out in front of a national audience. I think 420 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,400 is huge for both schools wherever it goes. 421 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: But it's always going to be competitive. I thought, I mean, 422 00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:54,960 I thought. 423 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,039 Speaker 4: After winning nine games in a row at Utah, like, 424 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,480 there's no way DYU is ever gonna win other game, 425 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,720 And and then and then they did, right, and and 426 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,839 and the crazy thing is that was the year Utah 427 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:09,359 won the Pac twelve and went to the Rose Bowl 428 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,160 for the first time, and they lost to BYU that year. 429 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,759 And so, you know, it's just that's how it is. 430 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:19,200 It's it's no matter what, no matter where, no matter 431 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,000 who thinks they're ahead of the other one, the other 432 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:24,079 one is going to find a way to give it 433 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,440 their very best shot every time they play because they 434 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:28,279 do not want to lose this game, which. 435 00:21:28,079 --> 00:21:32,039 Speaker 3: Is which is what we all want. We want we want, 436 00:21:32,279 --> 00:21:35,640 we want the healthy hatred towards one another. 437 00:21:35,759 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: No doubt. 438 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:38,559 Speaker 2: Well, some of it's going to be determined by who's 439 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:43,839 winning the recruiting battles in the state, right and uh. 440 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: Who's winning those right now. 441 00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: Look, there's been a bit of a flip, but both 442 00:21:48,279 --> 00:21:51,640 both teams had pretty good recruiting classes. I think by 443 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,079 you edged it out this year. But you know how 444 00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:56,200 that goes year to year. We're gonna see kind of 445 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,599 battles even on the recruiting fertile grounds of the state 446 00:21:58,599 --> 00:22:00,960 of Utah, because football on the State of Utah keith 447 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:01,920 on getting better and better. 448 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,519 Speaker 1: A lot of high profile prospects here. 449 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly is getting better, and you definitely want 450 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:13,359 kids from your own backyard for so many reasons. They 451 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,960 have more, you know, to play for there's a greater investment. 452 00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:19,839 Speaker 3: I think both of these. 453 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:25,039 Speaker 4: Programs though, they understand there's a unique culture that they 454 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,440 have to find a player that fits. 455 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: Into that as well. 456 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 4: And so you know, if you look at it just 457 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:36,440 from the mirror stars and rankings and whatever, it can 458 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,720 be a little bit misleading because you know, it's always 459 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,400 been getting the right players to fit our culture. 460 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:47,759 Speaker 3: And I think Koloni feels the same way at BUYU 461 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,839 and they do at. 462 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:52,079 Speaker 4: Utah, and that's the fun part to watch. I think 463 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,680 the question for me about recruiting now is who's going 464 00:22:55,759 --> 00:22:59,680 to be around? Like you know, there's some exciting guys 465 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,519 Youtah and you go, are they going to be here 466 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,160 or not? Or I know that you know, you take 467 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,680 a guy like Keanu Tunavaso, who is who would have 468 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,599 been a huge help for Utah this year and he 469 00:23:09,759 --> 00:23:12,240 leaves and it goes to BYU. And then you look 470 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,440 at John Henry Daly who was just phenomenal for Utah 471 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,160 this year and he left BYU and you and so 472 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,079 you certainly don't want to spend all that time recruiting 473 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,440 guys and then have them leave, and especially leave to 474 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,240 to their their rival, and it's kind of gone both ways. 475 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,839 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe that makes it more interesting or better, but. 476 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's so much about keeping the players 477 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,400 so that you can develop them into your culture as 478 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,440 much as you can. I think that's that's a strategy 479 00:23:43,519 --> 00:23:47,200 that's got to take a different path, and it has 480 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,480 in the past, just because guys, it's so easy for 481 00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:50,200 guys to leave. 482 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,799 Speaker 2: Scott Mitchell down at Dirty, Scott, best way to support you? 483 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: What you do? How you do it? For all of 484 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,720 our listeners today. 485 00:23:58,839 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 5: Well, I'm on down to Dirty, and of course ESPN 486 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:04,960 is a network here in the state of Utah, so 487 00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:06,880 I come on right before your show. 488 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,839 Speaker 3: I'm the warm up act for Ben Krittles. 489 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: You're more than that a little bit, You're more than that. 490 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,200 You're better anyway. 491 00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 4: So I'm on from one to two every day on 492 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,279 one O three nine ninety three the fan right right 493 00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:24,079 before you, and then I'm on in the mornings from 494 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,960 ten to eleven on ESPN seven hundred ninety two to 495 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,079 one FM. 496 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: Love It Man. 497 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,759 Speaker 2: Well, let's uh, you know, we want to support you 498 00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:33,240 what you do, how you do it. For all the 499 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:36,480 listeners out there, make sure you're tuning in to Scott 500 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:39,440 Mitchell Down and Dirty on ESPN seven hundred as well 501 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,240 as ESPN the Fan every single day. Scott, we salute you, 502 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,960 We appreciate you man. Thanks for hopping on today. 503 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 3: Always the pleasure. Thanks Ben. 504 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: There you go. That's Scott Mitchell. 505 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, that segment was brought to you by 506 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,440 Bresa Cleaning Services. Bresa makes it a breeze to keep 507 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,799 your house clean. 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