WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to spacing out with BB and Jason this week,

2
00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:09.480
<v Speaker 1>covering Foundation season two, episode five decided in the scene.

3
00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, welcome to spacy Now.

4
00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:19.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm BB and I'm Jason, and we are discussing the

5
00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Apple TV sci fi series Foundation, one episode at a

6
00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:26.320
<v Speaker 3>time and spoiler free. This is our first time watching

7
00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:28.719
<v Speaker 3>the series, and we're not watching ahead, so we don't

8
00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:31.679
<v Speaker 3>have our spoiler section or really any spoilers at all.

9
00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:35.840
<v Speaker 3>In this episode, Harry experiences a vision of Rach before

10
00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:38.920
<v Speaker 3>waking aboard the Beggar, which crash lands on Igness due

11
00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:43.719
<v Speaker 3>to negative ions on Trentor. Sarah gains access to Cleon's chambers,

12
00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:47.159
<v Speaker 3>argues with brother Day, and ultimately accepts his marriage proposal.

13
00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:52.399
<v Speaker 3>Then Sarah and Rue discover Themrzil's robotic nature on Igness.

14
00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Salver encounters are seemingly alive Hugo, but Harry grows suspicious,

15
00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:58.759
<v Speaker 3>leading to the revelation that he and the others are

16
00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:02.079
<v Speaker 3>telepaths who can after the trio they are brought before

17
00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:05.200
<v Speaker 3>tell them Bond, the leader of the Mentallics, who already

18
00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:07.920
<v Speaker 3>knows about their plans for a second Foundation, and says

19
00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:09.280
<v Speaker 3>that is not going to happen.

20
00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Vive check. Did we like the episode overall?

21
00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Eh, it was all right. I got pissed off a

22
00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:20.719
<v Speaker 2>couple of times, but it was fine.

23
00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I feel like it was a mix of some

24
00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:25.480
<v Speaker 3>good and some bad. For me, it was some things

25
00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:27.439
<v Speaker 3>I didn't like and then some things I was really into,

26
00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:29.959
<v Speaker 3>So it averages out to be okay.

27
00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's like a great like marker

28
00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:37.200
<v Speaker 2>of an episode. Let's say it was like, all right,

29
00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:39.359
<v Speaker 2>it passed.

30
00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll get into it later, but there's just some

31
00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:43.200
<v Speaker 3>aspects that I'm not vibing with.

32
00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Trivia time, What facts for news could we uncover for

33
00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:50.959
<v Speaker 1>The Sighted and the Scene?

34
00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:54.719
<v Speaker 3>All right? This is Foundation season two, episode five, The

35
00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Sighted and the Scene. This originally aired on August eleventh,

36
00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:02.719
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three. Written by Joel Garfinkel and Jane Espinson

37
00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:05.959
<v Speaker 3>and directed by Alex Graves. So we talked about Jane

38
00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Espinson in the previous episode, So talk about the other writer,

39
00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.919
<v Speaker 3>Joel Garfinkel, who has a handful of writing credits, including

40
00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:16.719
<v Speaker 3>a show called Camgirls another one called Ordinary Joe. But

41
00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:19.159
<v Speaker 3>she also worked on several shows as a script coordinator,

42
00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:22.680
<v Speaker 3>including season one of Foundation. A script coordinator is someone

43
00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:26.560
<v Speaker 3>who kind of manages the formatting, distribution of scripts and

44
00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:29.439
<v Speaker 3>the continuity and all that stuff. So it's kind of

45
00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:33.000
<v Speaker 3>cool that she moved up from that job into the

46
00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:37.039
<v Speaker 3>writer's room and then director Alex Graves directing credits and

47
00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:41.400
<v Speaker 3>include the West Wing, Game of Thrones, seven episodes of Foundation,

48
00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:46.319
<v Speaker 3>and many more, and twelve of the fourteen pilot episodes

49
00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:48.840
<v Speaker 3>he's directed were picked up for a series, Oh Wow,

50
00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:51.360
<v Speaker 3>which is a lot because most pilots do not get

51
00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.919
<v Speaker 3>picked up. And notable to us, he's from Kansas City,

52
00:02:53.919 --> 00:03:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Missouri and intended to University of Kansas. A fellow Jayhawk.

53
00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Deep Space Dive. Let's break down some of our thoughts

54
00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:09.319
<v Speaker 1>on the episode. You can share your thoughts with us

55
00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:13.080
<v Speaker 1>through email or social media. We may use your comments

56
00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:14.439
<v Speaker 1>on an upcoming episode.

57
00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, I vaguely remember anything about this show, and yeah,

58
00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:23.080
<v Speaker 2>so upon a clarity, it's just with the way our

59
00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:24.800
<v Speaker 2>schedules and lives have been.

60
00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:27.560
<v Speaker 3>It's been several weeks since we last watched an episode

61
00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:31.120
<v Speaker 3>of this. I think in terms of the episodes being released,

62
00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:33.639
<v Speaker 3>they'll probably still be every week, but there was a

63
00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:36.039
<v Speaker 3>big gap here for us in terms of watching, so

64
00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:39.400
<v Speaker 3>it was kind of hard to remember exactly what was

65
00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:41.840
<v Speaker 3>going on in every storyline, but feel pretty caught up

66
00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:42.159
<v Speaker 3>on it.

67
00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really hate this Harry Selden guy. I don't

68
00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:51.560
<v Speaker 2>understand how he's like the basis of the foundation, you

69
00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:54.560
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, because he turned himself into an idea,

70
00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:56.439
<v Speaker 2>but now he's a real person.

71
00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

72
00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:01.000
<v Speaker 2>He's annoying, too condescending.

73
00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.439
<v Speaker 3>He is, And the one silver lining of that is

74
00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:06.960
<v Speaker 3>multiple times in the episode they kind of shut him

75
00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:08.840
<v Speaker 3>down for the way he talks to them.

76
00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:14.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's weird. He's weird. I don't like him.

77
00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:18.800
<v Speaker 2>He's not my favorite character right now, and I'm just like,

78
00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:21.920
<v Speaker 2>what's the point of him? I don't know. I was

79
00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:25.240
<v Speaker 2>really interested in this like group of people they ran

80
00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:26.000
<v Speaker 2>into though.

81
00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:28.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, and then we kind of bring up some

82
00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:32.879
<v Speaker 3>old characters. We saw a vision of Rach and of

83
00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Salbar's boyfriend. I don't remember his name, so I don't

84
00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:37.240
<v Speaker 3>think he's going to come up again.

85
00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems like he's a goner.

86
00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:44.439
<v Speaker 3>That scene with Rach. I'm not sure if that was

87
00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:47.480
<v Speaker 3>like any new information for us, or if we already

88
00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.360
<v Speaker 3>kind of understood all that about how he wasn't supposed

89
00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:52.240
<v Speaker 3>to involve Gail in any of this.

90
00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he was. I mean, that wasn't

91
00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:58.800
<v Speaker 2>even him right, like.

92
00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:01.480
<v Speaker 3>No, but it was a a memory of what happened.

93
00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was interesting to meet people that are

94
00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.040
<v Speaker 2>on the same wavelength as you, like that call you

95
00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.959
<v Speaker 2>and like lure you in. That's so interesting. And then

96
00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:16.079
<v Speaker 2>to use a child as a deity and they're like, actually,

97
00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:20.839
<v Speaker 2>don't worship children, it's not good for them. That was

98
00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.399
<v Speaker 2>really good. And it also kind of like juxtaposition to

99
00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:29.439
<v Speaker 2>the ideology of Empire and how you are worshiping this

100
00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:33.639
<v Speaker 2>like entity from childhood all the way up to adulthood,

101
00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:37.879
<v Speaker 2>and that whole storyline was super interesting in this one.

102
00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that's where the meat of the episode was

103
00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:44.279
<v Speaker 2>this season, for this particular episode.

104
00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:48.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I like how they're showing that there's more

105
00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:51.279
<v Speaker 3>I think they phrased there's more like competition out there.

106
00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:54.439
<v Speaker 3>Because first, so we know that Harry was cloned. That's

107
00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:56.800
<v Speaker 3>how he has a body. Now I don't know exactly

108
00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:59.000
<v Speaker 3>the details of how that came to be, but so

109
00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.560
<v Speaker 3>the Empire is not the only one who can do cloning.

110
00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:05.000
<v Speaker 3>And then we have this group with these mental powers.

111
00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:07.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's very interesting.

112
00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.399
<v Speaker 3>And they seem to be a step ahead of Harry

113
00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:11.519
<v Speaker 3>and Gale and salvoor So.

114
00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:14.000
<v Speaker 2>And they want to destroy the Foundation.

115
00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or at least they don't want to be part

116
00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:17.959
<v Speaker 3>of the second Foundation.

117
00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Whatever that means. I still don't get it. I still

118
00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.000
<v Speaker 2>don't get it. What the fuck is a foundation? It's

119
00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:26.759
<v Speaker 2>a it's like a collection of knowledge for when the

120
00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:28.800
<v Speaker 2>world ends somewhat.

121
00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:29.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

122
00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:34.800
<v Speaker 2>It's confusing. I don't get it. I'm just like, I

123
00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:38.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I like the Empire storyline because he's like

124
00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:42.720
<v Speaker 2>creepy KORALI like the whole interaction with his step mom

125
00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:47.959
<v Speaker 2>robot was fucking awful and it made me cringe so bad.

126
00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:53.120
<v Speaker 3>It's super cringe. It was awful. That whole section. Just

127
00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:55.360
<v Speaker 3>it's like it was written by a It's like a

128
00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:56.680
<v Speaker 3>teen boys fantasy.

129
00:06:57.360 --> 00:07:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Me and my hot mom gonna hold your dick and

130
00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:06.639
<v Speaker 2>say you feel ready.

131
00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:10.839
<v Speaker 3>And then there's also there's like one like him expecting

132
00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Sarah to be a virgin. He has an idea in

133
00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.560
<v Speaker 3>his head or somehow, and then there's also the scene

134
00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:21.639
<v Speaker 3>of the brother Dusk well I guess when he was

135
00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:25.439
<v Speaker 3>brother day. It's so confusing, but when he's like walking

136
00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.720
<v Speaker 3>to that garden, like going to pick out a woman

137
00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:29.360
<v Speaker 3>from like he's shopping.

138
00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Are you like not familiar with the common stereotype of

139
00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:39.920
<v Speaker 2>women being like virtuous and men being like disgustingly like

140
00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:44.360
<v Speaker 2>filled with just semen in such excess that they must

141
00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:48.000
<v Speaker 2>expel it with any woman that's willing and able and

142
00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:51.720
<v Speaker 2>sometimes unwilling, and it's totally fine. Do you not understand

143
00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.839
<v Speaker 2>the double standard that women live with every day with

144
00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:56.439
<v Speaker 2>the Madonna horr complex.

145
00:07:56.839 --> 00:07:58.040
<v Speaker 3>No, it's the first I'm hearing.

146
00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Yeah. No, every fucking romance novel, every

147
00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:07.399
<v Speaker 2>fucking romance novel, every book written for women by women,

148
00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:13.079
<v Speaker 2>in most cases is a man who has a laundry

149
00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.839
<v Speaker 2>list of ladies that he's conquered, and the woman has

150
00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:20.639
<v Speaker 2>only been touched by maybe like a fun horse ride.

151
00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe one day she was churning butter a little

152
00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.680
<v Speaker 2>too hard and got excited. But her first experience in

153
00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:34.120
<v Speaker 2>a dalliance with a man is this very rough, knowing

154
00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:40.720
<v Speaker 2>hand that's gonna guide her into womanhood. And that's the romance, which,

155
00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.080
<v Speaker 2>to me, I could take it or leave it, Like

156
00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:48.159
<v Speaker 2>I understand what fantasy is, but I think it's harmful

157
00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:53.200
<v Speaker 2>when you talk about women's body counts or women's values.

158
00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:56.879
<v Speaker 2>When it comes to their experience, I don't think a

159
00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.200
<v Speaker 2>woman having any quote unquote mind eyelage on her makes

160
00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.759
<v Speaker 2>her less of a woman or more of a woman.

161
00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Experience makes a person experienced, and I think that can

162
00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:12.879
<v Speaker 2>be intimidating to a lot of men, especially because it

163
00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:16.200
<v Speaker 2>is harder for men to gain experience compared to women.

164
00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I think a woman might have an easier time finding

165
00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:24.080
<v Speaker 2>men to conquer versus a man. And if a man

166
00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:29.240
<v Speaker 2>does do this, it's usually nothing of significance in terms

167
00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:35.159
<v Speaker 2>of a relationship. It's just an interaction. So very interesting

168
00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:41.759
<v Speaker 2>conversation about that, and also the age difference disgusting, gross vile,

169
00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:46.639
<v Speaker 2>And she like getting on top and being in a

170
00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:52.000
<v Speaker 2>position of power, and he's like, actually, well, actually I

171
00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.960
<v Speaker 2>know more about sex, so the right way to do

172
00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:58.480
<v Speaker 2>it is me on top. That was so ick like

173
00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:02.720
<v Speaker 2>right then, and there Sahara desert in the pussy. It's

174
00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the Sahara desert like that, right there was the line

175
00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:11.240
<v Speaker 2>that literally killed the vibe for me, like no, sir no.

176
00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:16.720
<v Speaker 2>But it also shows how he refuses to be conquered

177
00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.240
<v Speaker 2>by this strange woman. Because if we remember back to

178
00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.879
<v Speaker 2>the scene where he was getting fucked by his robot mom,

179
00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:27.440
<v Speaker 2>she was on top. That's how she got the knife

180
00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:30.399
<v Speaker 2>in the head. Yeah, so does her pleasure not count?

181
00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Like it's very interesting, very nuanced. I would love to

182
00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:38.440
<v Speaker 2>like for that interaction to have been more. I think

183
00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:41.559
<v Speaker 2>it was very abrupt and very rough, and I was

184
00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:44.480
<v Speaker 2>worried for a minute that he was gonna rape her.

185
00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:50.159
<v Speaker 2>But thankfully he has a rectile dysfunction at the correct

186
00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.960
<v Speaker 2>time and she doesn't have to fuck him. But somehow

187
00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:57.279
<v Speaker 2>they're engaged. Hooray, what an engagement. Not only are you

188
00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:00.399
<v Speaker 2>getting mansplained how to have pleasure, brole in a course,

189
00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:06.159
<v Speaker 2>but also your family is like being investigated, and the

190
00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:09.480
<v Speaker 2>fucking robot lady tells on her and says, don't worry,

191
00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:12.200
<v Speaker 2>it will never lead back to you, And it's like,

192
00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:13.559
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck is happening?

193
00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Bro Yeah, so I think that's the first confirmation that

194
00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:19.240
<v Speaker 3>he did kill her family.

195
00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had something to do with it, for sure.

196
00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.600
<v Speaker 2>But the fucking revelation of the fucking episode was when

197
00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.799
<v Speaker 2>they find the memories of the person who worked on

198
00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:32.960
<v Speaker 2>him the day he was dying, and they find out

199
00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:36.519
<v Speaker 2>that the bitch is a robot. H fucking and that

200
00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:39.759
<v Speaker 2>moment that should have been more explosive, that should have

201
00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:42.600
<v Speaker 2>been like like, I think they did really good, but

202
00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:44.799
<v Speaker 2>I wish we would have lingered there more, like I

203
00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:47.039
<v Speaker 2>wish they would have been able to put together like,

204
00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:48.919
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, how long has she been here? Oh

205
00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.240
<v Speaker 2>my god? You know what does she know? Like can

206
00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:55.159
<v Speaker 2>we access her memories? Because apparently her memories are like

207
00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:59.559
<v Speaker 2>double downloaded. And that whole mess with the memories was

208
00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:04.320
<v Speaker 2>very interesting when they talked to the original Homeboy. I

209
00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:06.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't know they could do that. Yeah, either, I didn't

210
00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:08.480
<v Speaker 2>know they could do that. I wish they would have

211
00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:13.960
<v Speaker 2>explored that in earlier seasons because I would be there

212
00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.679
<v Speaker 2>every day trying to trick it, trying to figure out

213
00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:20.720
<v Speaker 2>like the algorithm, you know, because there's something happening, there's

214
00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.799
<v Speaker 2>something amiss, and I think Brother don No, Brother Dusk

215
00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:28.240
<v Speaker 2>is like uncovering it. When he looked at the memories

216
00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:32.279
<v Speaker 2>from the original to them, He's like, he has two

217
00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:35.639
<v Speaker 2>hundred memories and I only have eighty seven? Tops, How

218
00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.759
<v Speaker 2>is where is the discrepancy? What is going on here?

219
00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:41.759
<v Speaker 2>What are we not knowing? And we don't know how

220
00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:45.159
<v Speaker 2>to ask the question of what is missing because you

221
00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:46.240
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's missing.

222
00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think once we got past all their sexcapades,

223
00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:53.399
<v Speaker 3>I think the cleon stuff was actually really interesting and

224
00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:55.440
<v Speaker 3>how there's so much division between them.

225
00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and how the og was like to be divided

226
00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:01.720
<v Speaker 2>is to not be and it does not you, brother,

227
00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:03.519
<v Speaker 2>It is totally not you.

228
00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:06.279
<v Speaker 3>They're like, yeah, but okay, we still have this problem

229
00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:07.200
<v Speaker 3>with brother day.

230
00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Can you help us resolve it? No, He's like, don't

231
00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:12.440
<v Speaker 2>worry about it. This has nothing to do with you

232
00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:12.919
<v Speaker 2>right now.

233
00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Peace and love.

234
00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Peace and love very interesting. I love. I did like

235
00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:23.320
<v Speaker 2>that part. And I also enjoyed the older couple kind

236
00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:26.840
<v Speaker 2>of watching themselves as the younger couple watching the memory

237
00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:28.000
<v Speaker 2>of their interaction.

238
00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and.

239
00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad it wasn't negative for her because it could

240
00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:33.840
<v Speaker 2>have been. It could have been something that she didn't

241
00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:34.320
<v Speaker 2>want to do.

242
00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.600
<v Speaker 3>So that's good, Yeah, because that could very easily be

243
00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:42.879
<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable to watch yourself doing something you have no memory of. Yeah, Like, oh,

244
00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:44.840
<v Speaker 3>anyone ever showed you a video of like when you

245
00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:46.039
<v Speaker 3>were drunk or something like that.

246
00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or when you were really young and you don't

247
00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:51.159
<v Speaker 2>have a memory of it, Like being that young so

248
00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:54.360
<v Speaker 2>very interesting, and I'm glad they kind of made it

249
00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of a romantic moment for them. Very interesting that

250
00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Dusk has a romance. When Dawn had a romance, it

251
00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:09.639
<v Speaker 2>was very volatile and very scary and undercover. But now

252
00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:14.679
<v Speaker 2>that as Dusk, it's more free, relaxed. It's very it's

253
00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:18.440
<v Speaker 2>not we don't know yet if there's any manipulation, because

254
00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:21.639
<v Speaker 2>there could be that and we don't know yet. She's

255
00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:24.039
<v Speaker 2>like learning about like, oh, this is where they store

256
00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:28.159
<v Speaker 2>the memories, so there is some intel that's being drawn

257
00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:29.360
<v Speaker 2>from that experience.

258
00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:33.720
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, like, is she also like sincere in this

259
00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:35.120
<v Speaker 3>relationship at the same.

260
00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Time, We don't know. But I appreciate her being present

261
00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.679
<v Speaker 2>and her having like this history because I think in

262
00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:44.639
<v Speaker 2>a show where we do so much jumping in time

263
00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:50.679
<v Speaker 2>with like millennia or like decades or centuries or whatever,

264
00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.240
<v Speaker 2>it's nice to just go back, like a couple years back,

265
00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.360
<v Speaker 2>like when I was young. To play with time is

266
00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:01.639
<v Speaker 2>interesting in that way because we keep jumping forward, but

267
00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I like to go back.

268
00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what else? That was really our two storylines, right was?

269
00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That was it?

270
00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Two groups?

271
00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very simple?

272
00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:13.720
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, then let's do our Astral queen.

273
00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Astral queen, who was the standout character in the episode.

274
00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:24.919
<v Speaker 3>Who was the best character in this episode? We had

275
00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Salvar kind of being a badass.

276
00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, she was so good when she when they landed,

277
00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:33.679
<v Speaker 2>Like the first thing she did was like, I saw

278
00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:35.559
<v Speaker 2>people out there, we need to go. But then she

279
00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:38.000
<v Speaker 2>got fucking got man.

280
00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:40.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she saw those eyes.

281
00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:45.320
<v Speaker 2>And those unrealistically blue eyes. Yeah, white people, man.

282
00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.399
<v Speaker 3>When I did like her her attitude when they met

283
00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.720
<v Speaker 3>the religious cult. Yeah, we're like, sorry, we use your

284
00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.720
<v Speaker 3>memories against you. So yeah, fuck you for that. And

285
00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:59.960
<v Speaker 3>then so our other options would probably be the Queen.

286
00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Say, doing her sleuthing, doing.

287
00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Her investigation, which was successful in learning.

288
00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give it to that evil bitch that wants

289
00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:14.799
<v Speaker 2>to destroy the thing that's the show's about.

290
00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:22.039
<v Speaker 3>What's her name? Tell them bonds, that's hers. There will

291
00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:23.320
<v Speaker 3>be no second foundation.

292
00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:29.360
<v Speaker 2>That's what I say. Fuck this show. No, I didn't

293
00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:31.840
<v Speaker 2>mean it like that, but I like that she was

294
00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:35.240
<v Speaker 2>ready for them, She lured them in, she tricked them,

295
00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:40.919
<v Speaker 2>and then she made them feel safe, and she's infiltrating

296
00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:44.399
<v Speaker 2>their minds and she wants to destroy everything they stand for. Yeah,

297
00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:48.519
<v Speaker 2>all in like fucking what like five minutes, three minutes

298
00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:50.639
<v Speaker 2>of airtime screen time, and.

299
00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:54.480
<v Speaker 3>She called out Harry on his misogyny when.

300
00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:57.679
<v Speaker 2>He's like, do they not speak for themselves? And then

301
00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:01.240
<v Speaker 2>the line you should not worship children, it's not good

302
00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:04.039
<v Speaker 2>for them iconic. I want that on a T shirt

303
00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:07.440
<v Speaker 2>because you know some parents like literally like it's like

304
00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:12.119
<v Speaker 2>idle worship, like they're little kings and queens. They're people,

305
00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:13.799
<v Speaker 2>freedom like people. It's yours.

306
00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go with I'm just gonna go with Salve War.

307
00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:19.759
<v Speaker 3>I feel like she was the one really fighting to

308
00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:21.559
<v Speaker 3>keep the energy up in this episode.

309
00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was doing a lot. Oh. I really hated

310
00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:28.200
<v Speaker 2>when Harry was like, don't think about salt War, don't

311
00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.839
<v Speaker 2>think about that, Like, bitch, get away for me.

312
00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Like she's like, then stop bringing it.

313
00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Up for real. God, what an annoying bastard.

314
00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:42.119
<v Speaker 3>Ah. Okay, So I think that wraps up our coverage

315
00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.559
<v Speaker 3>of the sighted and the scene. The next episode will

316
00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:50.559
<v Speaker 3>be episode six, Why the Gods made Wine answers to drinking,

317
00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:53.039
<v Speaker 3>So thank you for spacing out with us. And remember,

318
00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:55.279
<v Speaker 3>don't worship a child as a god. It's not good

319
00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:55.680
<v Speaker 3>for them.

320
00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, let me bite Thank you for spacing

321
00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:02.319
<v Speaker 1>out with Phoebe and Jason. You can help us out

322
00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:06.519
<v Speaker 1>by subscribing and leaving a positive rating or review. Remember,

323
00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:11.119
<v Speaker 1>you can contact us through email or social media. Next time,

324
00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:14.759
<v Speaker 1>we will cover Foundation season two, episode six, Why the

325
00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Gods Made Wine.