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much for your support. I shall now discuss the thing

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that I've been told not to discuss, the Epstein Files.

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Don't meet. Don't do it.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get fired.

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Speaker 1: They don't want you to say it. Now. Nobody is

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telling me. I mentioned this yesterday. I have very little

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patience and by little I mean zero for people that

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throw false choices at me, saying you can't talk about

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this unless you talk because you can't talk about this

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other thing. You know, It's like you either talk about

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this one topic or you talk about this other topic. No,

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I disagree. I will talk about all the topics that

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I want to talk about. And I've talked about the

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Epstein Files. I've talked about it for years. Actually, so

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there isn't anybody telling me don't talk about it? Just

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because I choose on a particular day not to talk

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about the Epstein files. Does it mean that somebody has

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gotten to me they're telling you not to talk about

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the Epstein files. Multiple things can be true at the

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same time, Right, Beware of anybody that tells you it's

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either this or it's that, because that is like ninety

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nine percent of the time not the case. There's a

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little bit of truth in this, and a little bit

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of truth over here, and a little bit over there

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and all that. And then you also, I always tell

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people to assess incentives. What are people's incentives, Not necessarily

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their move but they're incentives things that make it easier

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for them to do one thing over another. Where are

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there incentives aligning? And so there's a couple things against

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this backdrop you always need to keep in mind. Number One,

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Democrats have not given a flying fig Newton about Jeffrey

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Epstein and the files until like a minute ago. Okay,

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they haven't cared, but they care now because they see

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it as a way to hurt Trump and create another

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you know, Russia collusion hoax type of a smoke screen, Right,

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so they like that and even better if there's something

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in there that incriminates Trump, even better, right, So that's

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why they care about this.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Number two, there is a wing of magaaland over on

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the quote right or what has been referred to as

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the woke right, that is also interested in wrestling control

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of MAGA away from Donald Trump and anointing themselves as

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the leader of the Maga movement. Because one thing to

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always keep in mind that wherever power rests, then you

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will have psychopaths try to take control of that power base.

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They don't believe the things that you believe. As you

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are part of a particular political movement or a philosophy

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or whatever, any kind of institution of power, they see it.

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They recognize the power there and they will adopt your language,

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but they don't actually believe it. They don't care about

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the philosophy or the ideology. They care about the power. Okay,

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So keep that in mind as well. And that faction

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inside of this woke right faction driven by a lot

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of these woke right influencers that are being propped up

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by bot farms to increase their reach and to reinforce

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this there, you know, anti Semitism, anti Israeli stuff, anti

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Jewish stuff. And that's also part of this Epstein stuff

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as well, because there's all the rumors about the masade

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and Epstein is a Jew and all of this. So

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they're like that that whole anti Semitic wing that gets

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boosted by these overseas bot farms, and that's been that's

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been documented, by the way, so I'm not just like

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making this up. Okay, that's been documented that they they

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boost the reach they interact. They're like, yes, that's right,

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it's the Jews or whatever like they are. They're promoting

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these accounts, and they promote real people, real people's accounts.

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You say something like, oh, I totally agree with Candice

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Owen's on this anti Semitic ranch. She went on Hitler

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wasn't all bad. That's that kind of stuff. And then

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you see your tweet get boosted all of a sudden,

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you got like three thousand likes, and you're like, oh

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my gosh, this must be a popular opinion, when in

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fact it's not. It's just being artificially boosted for some

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other reason. Right, So you got to keep that in mind.

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You've got that wing inside. It's not even the right.

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This is like you get into the horseshoe theory of

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politics where the you know, the woke right the woke left.

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It's like they're the same. They they believe in the

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same tactics and such. They they all they're just seeking power.

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They know, they want to cancel people, you know, they

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want to tear down the institutions of the West and

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replace it with you know, some sort of uh, you know,

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religious national religious or Christian nationalist kind of a government.

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And they say this, Okay, James Lindsay has done brilliant

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work exposing these people over there. Anyway, so you've got that.

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And the Democrats see this, they see this riff inside magaworld,

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and so they're trying to hammer the wedge down to

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try to break up Trump's base of support. And so

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they're giddy at all of this stuff with the Epstein files.

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That doesn't mean just because the Democrats want the files

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released doesn't mean that we should reject the idea. Right, Oh,

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if the Democrats are for it, I must be against it. Well,

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not necessarily. Just because the Democrats have happened to stumble

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into a correct position doesn't mean I have to abandon

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that correct position. I'm not a Democrat. That's what they do.

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I mean, really like, that's what they have done on

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these issues where they feel like, oh, well Trump said it,

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so I have to be against it. It's like, yeah,

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but that was your policy up until like a year ago.

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Now you're against it all of a sudden because Trump

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is for it. So absurd. Think for yourself. Okay, I've

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said this before. Last week I think it was when

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I did I did an hour maybe two on the

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Epstein files, the update on Epstein. I don't know what

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to believe. And anybody who tells you that they know

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what Epstein was about, where he made his money, and

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the nature of the operation that they were running. Anybody

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who claims knowledge of this, unless you're like Gallaine Maxwell,

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you're lying. You can have theories. I've got some theories,

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like right now, I think the most plausible theory is

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the one I heard put forth by a guy named

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Mike Bens And he's got a podcast he does called

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The Gray Zone. He's a former State Department guy, anti

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corruption guy, journalist now and his theory is that Epstein

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was a financier for off book operations that governments and

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intel agencies did not want their fingerprints on. And so

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you use these cutouts, You use these bagmen basically, and

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they can go around, they can collect a bunch of money,

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and they can then funnel that money to the effort

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you know, overthrowing a government, arming some rebels, whatever. You

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can move that money then and your government is not

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involved in it. So this way, any ally that says, hey,

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why'd you do this? Like I didn't do it. I

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don't know who this guy is, right. That's not to

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say like he could have been an asset. I don't

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know if that's true or not. He could have been

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an asset of an intelligence agency. I tend to think

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not at this point, but I'm able to be persuaded

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you show me some evidence that he was. Sure. But

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if that's the case, right, if he is a financier

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at the very least, then it makes sense that these

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governments that were willing to utilize this guy to get

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money to various off book projects and operations, then it

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makes sense why the government now and the government under Biden,

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they don't want they don't want these files to be disclosed.

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They don't want people to see the fingerprints. Right, So,

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to some extent, that makes a bit of sense. That's

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not an excuse for keeping them all hidden, though, and

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there are records that are hidden like that. We do

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not have access to all of the files. And I'm

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not talking like they should not be releasing files with

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victims' names or any of the child pornography or whatever

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that exists on the videos. We don't need to see

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any of that, but we do need to see some

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of the people that were utilizing the various services he

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hands here, three yeah, three. I don't know updates if

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you will on the Epstein's saga Number one A how

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subcommittee yesterday voted to subpoena the Department of Justice for

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its files in the sex trafficking investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

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This is according to the Associated Press, which reports after

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Democrats successfully goaded GOP lawmakers to defy President Donald Trump

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and Republican leadership to support the action. Because it can't

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be that the Republicans want the files too, No, that's

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not possible, ap right, Associated Press. They know the motivation

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of the Republicans, and it was that they got goaded

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into it by the Democrats. Score one for the Democrats

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victory good for them, says the cheerleaders for the Democrats

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over at the ap piece by Stephen Groves and Matt Brown.

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The House Committee on Oversight also issued a subpoena for

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Gillaane Maxwell, a convicted sex offender and girlfriend of the

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late Epstein, to testify before committee officials in August. Related

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there are reports that she believes if she cooperates in

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some manner, she may get herself a pardon. Good luck

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with that. I'm not sure that Trump is going to

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want to pardon a convicted sex offender part of the

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human trafficking sex trafficking operation of Epstein, particularly when there's

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all this swirl about whether his name is in the

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files or not, which by the way, I expect that

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his name is somewhere in Epstein's address book, his contacts book.

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I have no doubt about that, because we have long

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known that the two knew each other, moved in the

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same circles, attended same parties. Epstein went to mar A Lago,

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they went at each other in an auction for some

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property down in Florida, and that apparently led to the

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falling out. Like we already know this, and yes, I

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covered this last week when the Wall Street Journal published

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its report about the birthday wishes that Donald Trump allegedly

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wrote to Epstein. That was just newly discovered. All of

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this just newly discovered. So maybe Maxwell testifies, maybe she

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talks to the to the DOJ or something about whatever.

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Maybe she's trying to get a pardoned or commutation of

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her sentence or something. I don't know. Maybe she will,

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maybe she won't. Here's the thing. Criminals will lie just

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like Commi's okay, So you just got to be you

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just got to keep that in mind. I'm not saying

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don't believe anything she says. I'm just saying, probably don't

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believe everything she says just because she says it. You'd

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have to confirm this stuff. Okay. So Democrats on this subcommittee,

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which is part of the House Oversight Committee, made a

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motion for the subpoena. Yesterday afternoon. Three Republicans on the

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panel voted with the Democrats for the subpoena, sending it

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through on an eight to two vote. Democrats cheered the

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action as proof that they're push for disclosures in the

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Epstein investigation was growing stronger. The committee agreed to redact

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information on victims as it should, Yet Democrats successfully blocked

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a push by Republicans to only subpoena information that was

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deemed to be credible. So Democrats don't care if it's credible.

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They want, they want all the speculation. Now, why is

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this important, because there is a piece at Newsweek here

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it is. On Wednesday, the Wall Street Journal reported that

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Pambondi and another top DOJ official informed the president in

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May that his name appeared in the Epstein files, along

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with the names of other high profile figures, as part

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of what the sources characterized as quote unverified hearsay. That's

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what Democrats want. They want the unverified hearsay because they

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don't care about the truth. They don't care about the

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Epstein files. They don't care who burns. If you like,

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some guy is in Epstein's rolodex because they did some

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sort of a deal somewhere along the line that was

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completely legitimate. The guy had you know, this business person

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had nothing to do with any of the trafficking, had

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no idea. They just did some deal together. So his

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name is in a book someplace, and the Democrats don't

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care if that guy burns, he will forever, Like if

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that guy has to be sacrificed for Democrat electoral purposes.

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They are totally fine with that. That's why they want

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the end unverified hearsay out there. They don't care if

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the information that they subpoena is credible or not. If

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it says Donald Trump on it or any other Republican,

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that's good enough for them. This is again from the

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AP goes on to say, Democrats have delighted in pressing

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Republicans to support the release of the files. Yeah, because

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this is their only issue right now. Have you noticed,

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like the ice stuff has kind of fallen away, the

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arrested variis, all of those tactics, like those things have

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kind of drifted away. This is now the sole focus

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because this is what they think is their winning issue.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, Democrat leaders are hoping to make the Epstein issue

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more about just Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: They want to It's about more than that, Okay, right?

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They they want to make this about Trump. They want

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to make it that he's involved in the sex trafficking,

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that he was, you know, friends with Epstein, he knew

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all about it. Now he's covering it all up and

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and you know, divide the MAGA movement.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So that's the ap story, and that's the the update

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from the subcommittee vote to subpoena DOJ files. Then there

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is the follow up story that the Wall Street Journal did.

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I mentioned a bit of it a moment ago. The

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White House has responded to a new Wall Street Journal

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report that Attorney General Pam Bondi told President Trump back

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in May that his name was mentioned in documents related

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to the investigation into the disgraced financier and sex offender

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Jeffrey Epstein. The journal's report cited senior administration officials who

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said Trump's name appeared quote multiple times in the Epstein files. Right,

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but in what context? So, like, this is the problem

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I have with these anonymously sourced stories. Fine, Okay, you

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got an anonymous source to say, you know, I can

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confirm we told him that his name's in the files. Okay,

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but like in what context? Like for what I can't

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say anymore? Well, then I think you are simply planting

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this information to harm the president. Why else would you

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just tell me that if you know his name is there,

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you've seen the files, right, If otherwise, what are you

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just saying that you know BONDI said this and that's it? Well,

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then in what context was his name in the files?

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Speaker 2: Was it? Like?

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Speaker 1: I hate Donald Trump because he outbid me on that

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auction for the property that I wanted but he got.

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We know, and this is the thing too, We know

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that these two guys knew each other. We knew this.

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We've known this since he came down the escalator. We've

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known it for thirty years, because we have video, we

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have pictures, we have all this stuff, which, by the way,

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in this Newsweek story they talk about how CNN reported

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on breaking news newly surfaced photos show Epstein attending Trump's

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nineteen ninety three wedding to Marla Maples No, as well

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as images of the two men standing next to each

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other at the Harley Davidson Cafe opening that same year. Really,

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the Harley Davidson Cafe had a grand opening and they

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invited local luminaries and business people and rich folks to hobnob. Well,

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that's a shock like this, they lived nearby. They lived

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near each other. Donald Trump wrote a book about sleeping

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with his friend's wives. Like this is not like the

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guy was a serial philanderer. We knew this. It's already

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baked into the cake. The fact that he and Epstein

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would know each other, we've already known and it's not surprising.

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The question is was he participating in the illegal activity?

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And until you can show me something that proves that,

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then then I am suspicious of all of these leaked

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reports that don't provide any information or any evidence of

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his involvement in the illegal activities because Epstein was running

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some sort of hedge fund. This is the other thing too.

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There's another possibility here, which is that Epstein was just

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a con man. That's possible too. I mean, yes, he was,

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you know, sex trafficking and doing that stuff. But this,

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this is not a new story in the rich elite world.

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This happens all the time where con men, Cohn women

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go in there and they take advantage of really rich

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but kind of stupid people, right, They do this all

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the time. They sell them on some story, some origin story,

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I'm actually the Prince of Nepal or something like it.

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Wasn't there What was the big one Sydney the guy

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who claimed he was Sidney Poitier's son? Did I say

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that name? Potier? And the guy was bilking millions of

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dollars from like these uber rich liberals I think in

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New York City or something. Then, of course CNN has

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another video uncovered by CNN showing Trump and Epstein laughing

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and chatting together at the nineteen ninety nine Victorious Secrets

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fashion show. Okay, like, do you have do you have

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this of Donald Trump paying Epstein for the sex at

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the at the Island? No, do you have any communication?

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Do you have any do you have any proof of

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any of this stuff yet? Well, that's because it's all

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being suppressed, Pete. We shall see, we shall see. And

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that's what Democrats keep sniffing around for. It's a there's

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there's a double benefit here, is that number one, you

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hurt Trump at number two as you divide his base

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because a chunk of the base has been demanding the

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Epstein files be released me included, by the way, Like

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I'm saying they should have released and gone after and

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charged the Johns like you, how do you imprison Gallaine

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Maxwell on this you know, sex trafficking operation and there

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be no clients. Do I think there's a client list.

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I don't know. It would not surprise me if there

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was not, it wouldn't. I think Jeffrey Epstein probably would

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not have kept a list where somebody would be able

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to get the list, you know, so that it's possible,

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but they would know. He would have known who the

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people were. Maybe he used that to blackmail them individually,

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that's possible.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I want to know. I think we should know because

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I feel like the people who did participate in the

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illegal activity, the pedophile ring, they should be held accountable.

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And I don't care what political party they are, I

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don't care who they are. They need to be brought

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up on charges. But the way to do that is

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to actually do an investigation. And then there is Then

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there's the money, which to me has always been sort

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of this blind spot for some reason, How did Epstein

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get all of his money? Follow the money? But somehow

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and other people aren't interested in following the money. But

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now we have somebody who is interested coincidentally timed just

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for right now when Trump is in office, and it's

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Senator Ron Wyden from Oregon Democrat did an interview with

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The New York Times. He said that his investigators on

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his staff in the Senate had discovered that four big

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banks had flagged one point five billion dollars in potentially

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suspicious money transfers involving Epstein. They flagged these transfers and

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told the Treasury Department one point five billion dollars in

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wire transfers or money transfers, which kind of lends some

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evidence to the idea that he was a financier of

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these off book operations. The revelation, which emerged via Widen's

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work as ranking Democrat on the Finance Committee ratified. This

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is according to The New Republic, which is a left

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wing rag written by Greg Sargent, who was a leftist,

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awful person. But this is the only place I found

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the write up on it, because The New York Times

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is a paywall. But this is, you know, regarding widespread

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suspicions that there is still much we don't know about

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Epstein's relations with some of the most powerful and wealthy

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elites in the world in the lead up to his

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twenty nineteen arrest on sex trafficking charges. Now Widen is

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ratcheting things up once again. Widen's office just sent a

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new letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi suggesting seven lines

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of inquiry that the Justice Department could follow right now

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to dig more deeply into his web of financial relations

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with global elites. And this is where things might get

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tricky if he was a financier of off book intelligence

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Speaker 2: How are you hi, Pete, Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

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I'm curious if you think it's possible that Donald Trump

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knows exactly what's in the whole dossier, if you will,

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about Epstein, and is simply allowing the Democrats to just

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keep demanding it, just keep demanding it. Finally it's okay,

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well we'll release it, and here comes an absolute explosion

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of Democrats up to their ears in it.

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Speaker 1: That's possible, right, Like.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's that savvy. I'd like to

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think he is, right, great play well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing about Trump is like, I

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don't know, is he playing the you know, forty seven

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dimensional chess going on right now? Or is this uh?

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Is this just him, you know, reacting viscerally and emotionally

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like no, shut it down, there's not going to see

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here whatever, and wants it all to go away for

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the reasons that everybody you know tends to think, which

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is that his name is in the file and it's

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going to hurt him. But your theory could also be

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true that he got a briefing, he knows what's in it,

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and he's like, let them keep running with this, this story,

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and then they will eventually it'll come out and there

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will be a lot of Democrats that get burned when

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it does. That's possible too.

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Speaker 2: It would be perfectly in his style to let them

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hang themselves from their own fitards.

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Speaker 1: That's the second time this week that the word petard

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has been used. Yes, so I think we're on course

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for a record. Yeah, Dan, thanks for the call, man,

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I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Sure bye.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, it's a look. I got a text

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on the WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC.

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What are the chances that the Epstein files are full

476
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of Democrats and the DJ is waiting until the midterms

477
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to wipe out the field. Yeah, the chances are, I'd say,

478
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even see, that's the thing with this, with this kind

479
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of stuff, like you don't know what's in there. These

480
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Democrats may not know what's in there, and you keep

481
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for this stuff, and it just stands to reason that

482
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this is a bipartisan scandal. In fact, like you remember

483
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when we found out that there was all of this

484
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money being paid out for all of like the sexual

485
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,079
harassment claims that were lodged against members of Congress, Those

486
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like tens of millions of dollars have been handed out

487
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through this fund or whatever taxpayer funds to settle these accusations,

488
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:28,680
these claims and make the people go away. And what happened, right,

489
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We were like, hey, well who were the claims made against?

490
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And all of a sudden you saw a bipartisan unity

491
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and they were like, we're not releasing the names and stuff.

492
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And to some extent, like I understand why. And Trump

493
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has been a victim of this, and most famous people

494
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and powerful people have been involved in these kinds of

495
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things where it's just easier to just pay them to

496
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go away. When you become really rich, people see the power,

497
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,000
they see the wealth, and they're like, I'm going to

498
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make some accusations and I'm going to get paid. You know,

499
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professional athletes deal with this, actors deal with this, politicians too, right,

500
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So it makes sense why people would just pay and

501
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make somebody, you know, go away. I just want to

502
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get rid of this problem. It's not true. What they're

503
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:19,759
accusing me of is not true. But it's not worth

504
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:23,559
it to get dragged into this fight where I'm going

505
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:27,839
to suffer reputational damage even though it's not true. So

506
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you know, I can understand that. And so here's the

507
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thing too, Like you're going to have people that are

508
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in the files that have done nothing wrong and they're

509
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,920
going to get dragged into it, and they're going to

510
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,039
now carry this scarlet letter around with them that they

511
00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:44,519
were identified in the Epstein files even though they did

512
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nothing wrong. They were unaware of whatever it was that

513
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he was doing. They had some dealing with him on

514
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:54,799
something else unrelated. Right, the context matters, and far be

515
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,039
it for me to suggest that I don't trust the

516
00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:59,839
media to tell me the full context of the stories.

517
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But I don't trust them, Okay, I don't trust them,

518
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,839
So you know they're just gonna give me a list

519
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,319
of everybody that's in all of the files, and everybody's

520
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:13,400
gonna go ooh, they're pedophiles, and they're not. And then

521
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,720
you're going to open yourself up to lawsuits for slander,

522
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,000
for libel, all of that. Back to this piece at

523
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640
New Republic. Again, it's a lefty rag. So take this

524
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from where it's coming from. But this is the place

525
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:29,359
where I saw the information about Senator Ron Wyden's letter

526
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,880
to the DOJ, where he's outlining like, this is what

527
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,880
we have found with financial transactions. There were like almost

528
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:45,680
five thousand wire transfers involving Epstein's accounts, and they say

529
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,000
this merits further investigation. You got one and a half

530
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:54,920
billion dollars moving through these accounts Treasury Department records that

531
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,640
were looked at by Widends investigators. This was examined his

532
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,759
financial transactions for several years. They looked at them. In

533
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,240
February of twenty twenty four, when Democrats controlled the Senate,

534
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:15,279
his staff viewed in camera, which means privately thousands of

535
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,880
pages of Treasury files documenting the transactions. That review brought

536
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,599
to Widen's attention the one point five billion dollars in

537
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:28,079
suspicious transactions flagged to Treasury by big banks, which they

538
00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:32,440
have to report, like these suspicious activity reports, the Star's reports, right,

539
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:36,640
so they file these reports. Now Democrats do not care

540
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,839
if Hunter Biden is doing these shady transactions that get

541
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:42,160
Stars flags on them. They don't care about those, But

542
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:46,640
now they care follow the money. As is always the case,

543
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,920
It's unclear whether DOJ has or has not examined the

544
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,480
Treasury files. It's possible it's already done so, but Widen's

545
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:58,599
office says, at a minimum, DOJ should say whether it

546
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,000
has done this and if it has, what did their

547
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:06,720
review find. But the DOJ has not replied to his questions,

548
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:10,480
he says. Wyden's letter to the DOJ also lays out

549
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:14,200
other lines of inquiry that the DOJ could pursue, urging

550
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,119
examination of a number of specific payments made to Epstein

551
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,440
by several wealthy financiers that his investigators discovered. The letter

552
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:29,319
also suggests subpoenaing banks that filed the SARS reports in

553
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,440
case they failed to report on Epstein related transactions that

554
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:37,240
remain unknown. So, okay, you know you got a bank

555
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:40,960
and it filed like say ten stars reports, Well maybe

556
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,960
they should have filed one hundred, but they only filed ten.

557
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:49,480
Widen also says the DOJ needs to examine hundreds of

558
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,839
millions of dollars in wire transfers discovered by his investigators

559
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:57,960
that passed through several Russian banks that are now sanctioned.

560
00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:00,319
I don't know if they were sanctioned at the time

561
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:07,079
of the transactions, but they're sanctioned now. So Russia, Russia, Russia, guys,

562
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,159
we can get the band back together, okay. Widen's office

563
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:14,800
also offers another revelation in the Times interview. A Treasury

564
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,159
spokesperson dismissed Widen's demand for release of these documents, insisting

565
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,960
that Joe Biden, when Joe Biden was president, Widen never

566
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,599
asked for the info, But Widens often said that office

567
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:28,119
says that's not true. We reviewed him in February twenty

568
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,519
twenty four, and when he asked for the info from

569
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:36,559
the Biden Treasury department, he got access to it, and

570
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,000
he says Widen staff viewed these Treasury documents in private.

571
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:42,679
Widen actively then moved to get the Senate to subpoena

572
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,639
their release, but because the Finance Committee rules required bipartisan support,

573
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he was unable to get GOP senators on the committee

574
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:55,119
to back him, and so he was unable to get

575
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,440
them released. And again keep in mind they're hoping to

576
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:03,480
drive a wedge in the magabase. All right, that'll do

577
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:06,079
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