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<v Speaker 1>The tragic death of nineteen year old Levenna Lynn Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>a private first Class Army soldier who is serving in Iraq,

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<v Speaker 1>is a story that may have unveiled troubling secrets within

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<v Speaker 1>the United States Army. Her untimely death has been ruled

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<v Speaker 1>a suicide, even though evidence points to a murder, as

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<v Speaker 1>her body shows signs of abuse, sexual assault, and a

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<v Speaker 1>death beyond self infliction.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked

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<v Speaker 2>and Grim, a true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>The following past material intend for a mature audience. Listener

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<v Speaker 1>Discretion is advised. It's playoff season. The NHL Stanley Playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>are on right now. Sorry, and just we're super excited.

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<v Speaker 1>We watched the Canucks play their first opening game the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, which they won. They did against Nashville Predators.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fantastic game on both sides. But we

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<v Speaker 1>are rooting for the Canucks to go all the way

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<v Speaker 1>this year.

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<v Speaker 2>We totally are. I actually meant to throw on some

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<v Speaker 2>of the games because there were some other Canadian teams

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<v Speaker 2>playing tonight, but we were working. Yes, I just forgot,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're gonna have to look up those scores.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough I don't know if any of you guys

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<v Speaker 1>out there are sports fans, we generally speaking aren't. We

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<v Speaker 1>watched playoff hockey, and like, we root for the Canucks,

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<v Speaker 1>but we really got into it this year.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we needed a winter hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's good because the Canucks just so happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing phenomenal this year. So we can say that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not bandwagoners because we watched almost their entire preseason.

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<v Speaker 2>Games too, So yeah, pretty well, Hey, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we missed a little bit at the beginning, but not

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 1>We maybe missed. I bet you're like eight ten games

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, and then we're watching them and they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing really good, and then there was a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a lull where they weren't doing so good, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're bringing it back and they play phenomenal first first

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Stanley Cup playoff game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Ripley hates our dog hates when when we're watching

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<v Speaker 2>hockey because we get excited the playoffs. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday we got pretty dang excited, and she's like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't like it when like someone's kind of showing

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<v Speaker 2>or being loud or kind of apprehensive or something right.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't like loud emotion because she's like, is something wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you okay?

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<v Speaker 2>She'll literally come up and like want to give you

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<v Speaker 2>a hug and like confront, like comfort you, and yeah, even.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's good emotions, she thinks that something could be

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<v Speaker 1>wrong and you might be upset because like you're loud,

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<v Speaker 1>you must be yelling, you must be angry, you must

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<v Speaker 1>be mad, must be upset.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so it's going to be allowed a long

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<v Speaker 2>playoff season for.

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<v Speaker 1>Her, yes, most certainly. But before we just start ranting

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<v Speaker 1>and raving about hockey, we want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>who support us behind the scenes get that extra awesome content.

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<v Speaker 1>And this week we had Amy Dunn sign up for Patreon,

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<v Speaker 1>So Amy, thank you so much. We appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's awesome. I want to talk about one more

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<v Speaker 1>quick little thing before we get into today's episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is something that we forgot to mention last week,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was going to ihad it on my list,

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<v Speaker 1>but OJ Simpson died.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I was like, what was what.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we So that was massive in the true crime

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<v Speaker 1>world because O. J. Simpson, famous for the Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>The glove doesn't fit.

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<v Speaker 1>He has officially passed.

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<v Speaker 2>Away in seventies. I think he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Some I think seventy four, I want to say, or no,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six. I got it right here. Yeah, he passed

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<v Speaker 1>away April tenth, twenty twenty four. I mean, technically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>he's innocent, technically speaking, according to the courts, But there

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot that goes into that case which throws

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of suspicion at him and the whole Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that glove doesn't fit, even though there's literal footage of

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<v Speaker 1>him wearing those gloves and like TV reports and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But yeah, anyways, he passed.

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<v Speaker 2>Away, huh, which I feel like is a terrible segue

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<v Speaker 2>into this next case because you always think, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>people will get what's coming or whatever right, or like

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<v Speaker 2>the I can't even speak today. I'm like Harma fausted,

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<v Speaker 2>klarma arma, or just the the court systems, or like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're going to get in jail if you

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<v Speaker 2>did a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you do the crime, you do the time.

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<v Speaker 2>This one is going to make us mad, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you're about to find out, because this is the

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<v Speaker 1>story of Levenna Lynn Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, even after you read the intro, I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen, Yes, she's nineteen years old.

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<v Speaker 2>That's young.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's dive into this. Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so?

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<v Speaker 1>You think so? Okay? Well. She was born on July

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, nineteen eighty five, in Florescent, Missouri. Levenna Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in a close knit household with her parents,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Johnson and Linda Johnson. As she approached the end

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<v Speaker 1>of her high school years, Levenna made the tough decision

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<v Speaker 1>that would alter the course of her life and impact

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<v Speaker 1>her family deeply. Now, of course, I mean this is

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<v Speaker 1>we know, this is a true crime tale. The decision,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of the events that did play out, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a decision if it went the correct way or which

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<v Speaker 1>she hoped, It's still a decision that's big and would

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<v Speaker 1>impact your life and your family. So, despite her parents' reservations,

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<v Speaker 1>Levenna resolved to join the military. She wanted to alleviate

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<v Speaker 1>some of the financial strain in her family regarding the

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<v Speaker 1>looming costs of college tuitions for both herself and her sister.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a choice, you know, more so for herself,

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<v Speaker 1>not one only wanting to provide back to her family,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know that monetary value, but also provide

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<v Speaker 1>for herself in an onset in your onsetting adult years,

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of independence, you know, is important for someone

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<v Speaker 1>as in those younger years, being becoming an adolescent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a young adult or whatever. And I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>her way of just just gaining that per se.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's impressive too that she's thinking about her parents

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<v Speaker 2>and them not having to pay for two kids going

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<v Speaker 2>to post secondary and you know, wanting to like provide

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<v Speaker 2>some financial income herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, And I don't think it was necessarily like

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<v Speaker 1>like she was doing. She was thinking of about a

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<v Speaker 1>few different angles. One on the surface, she was thinking like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to provide for the family,

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<v Speaker 1>provide back for the family. But I think like subconsciously

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you know, gaining your independence. She's just

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<v Speaker 1>just about to graduate high school. That's when we're all

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going off in the world and becoming ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's post secondary, moving out or relationships, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You're spreading your proverbial wings, right, And I think this

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<v Speaker 1>was a way of being able to do that, taking

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<v Speaker 1>on a responsibility as an adult, and I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a big part of her decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good for her.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean her parents, on the other hand, they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>exactly concerned about her having to pay even though I

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<v Speaker 1>means that's what she was trying to do. She's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like pay and ensure that she's putting in this

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<v Speaker 1>money with the family as well. But her parents weren't concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>They possessed the means to support not only enough money

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<v Speaker 1>for her education, but the money for her siblings as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Okay, I wondered because you said he was a doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, well, maybe not all doctors make

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<v Speaker 2>good money. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they had the monetary value, they had the means

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<v Speaker 1>of paying it. She just was like, hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I can pay it too. And I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>good on her for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for her dad, doctor John Johnson, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>military psychologist and his career immersed himself within the intricacies

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<v Speaker 1>of military life quite a bit. But for him, Leavenna's

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<v Speaker 1>decision came as quite a surprise. He never wasn't one

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<v Speaker 1>to really like press the idea of the military on

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<v Speaker 1>his family specifically, So it was kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>almost came out of nowhere for him, and he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>really shake the belief that his daughter had been swayed

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<v Speaker 1>by the persuasive recruiters who had frequented her high school.

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<v Speaker 1>So whether she was indoctrinated that way or not, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say. And regardless of the origins of her decision,

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<v Speaker 1>Levenna was determined to pursue a path in the military.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a choice that spoke to her sense of duty,

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<v Speaker 1>her purpose, one that she embraced, and it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be her conviction. So good on her.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes sense a little bit more so to me

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<v Speaker 2>now knowing that her dad too was part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right person, the military, for sure, it does.

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of grew up with that in the family,

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<v Speaker 1>whether he pressed it or not, that still gives you

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of that lifestyle or that sense of honor and

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<v Speaker 1>respect service sort of things. So I totally get it. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>on May of two thousand and five, just a year

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<v Speaker 1>after bidding farewell to her high school days, nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old Levenna found herself deployed in the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ninth Corps Support Battalion to balad Iraq. Despite the

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<v Speaker 1>miles that separated her from her home, she made a

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<v Speaker 1>point of reaching out very frequently. She would call, write

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<v Speaker 1>letters reassure her loved ones of her safety and her

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<v Speaker 1>well being. She shared tales of her experiences and service,

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<v Speaker 1>and from these conversations she appeared happy with her decision.

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<v Speaker 1>She was doing well where she was. However, as the

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<v Speaker 1>months passed, Levenna began talking about mistreatment and disrespect from

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<v Speaker 1>her superiors. She was always an optimist, but she downplayed

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<v Speaker 1>these concerns as best as she could while still venting appropriately.

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<v Speaker 1>Right so, she was insisting that the treatment was not

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<v Speaker 1>unique to her and urging that her urging to her

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<v Speaker 1>parents that there's nothing to worry about, there's nothing excessive

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Yet behind these reassuring words, Leah growing unease.

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<v Speaker 1>In her letters to her mother, Lavenna detailed the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>she faced, including instances where her authority was undermined by

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<v Speaker 1>insubordinate soldiers. One particular conversation with her father on January

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<v Speaker 1>fourteenth in two thousand and five revealed the depths of

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<v Speaker 1>her distress. She talked about an encounter with soldiers who

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<v Speaker 1>defied her command. She told them to leave the communication room,

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<v Speaker 1>but they ignored her. She felt helpless. She's sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>facing this insubordination even though they all knew she was

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<v Speaker 1>in charge. Instead of receiving support, though, she found herself

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<v Speaker 1>chastisized by her superior officer for her perceived lack of assertiveness.

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<v Speaker 1>She's too soft spoken. So the superior was a general

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<v Speaker 1>who came in and ordered the soldiers to leave, and

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<v Speaker 1>they did immediately. They listened to him, but they never

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<v Speaker 1>listened to Levenna. They just ignored her.

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<v Speaker 2>That's brutal, Actually it is, huh because no matter what,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter say, she's soft spoken or just the way

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<v Speaker 2>she speaks, like if she is of higher ranking ranking,

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<v Speaker 2>like they should be listening to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the general like never never reprimanded these these

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<v Speaker 2>That's like showing she has zero support.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, hmmm. So despite her father's suggestion of a battle buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>seek this battle buddy, And this battle buddy is a

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<v Speaker 1>thick and thin, ensuring their safety in the whole military life. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Your backs, right right, Yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But she feared this. If she implemented this or asked

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. And I know she's telling her parents

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<v Speaker 2>not to worry, but I could only imagine that because

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like her dad's giving her a bit of advice or whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's not there, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, Yeah, he's not there. He can't protect her.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyways, a few weeks later, Levenna called home with

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<v Speaker 1>some exciting news. She was going to be returning home

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<v Speaker 1>for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is fantastic because I know many people who are serving

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a few miles away, it's hard to actually

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't imagine a lot of them get that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Necessarily, definitely not. And she immediately told her family, like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't decorate the Christmas tree. It was her favorite part

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<v Speaker 1>with them, so they held off on decorating the tree,

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>The anticipation of her homecoming filled the household with absolute joy,

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<v Speaker 1>in each passing day bringing them closer to reuniting with

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<v Speaker 1>their daughter. They couldn't wait. However, the promise of a

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<v Speaker 1>reunion would soon be shattered when a somber visitor knocked

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so shit, she's so young and it's the holidays, correct, Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just some real shitty icing on the cake.

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<v Speaker 1>There with heavy hearts, the Johnson's received the devastating news

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<v Speaker 1>that their daughter would not be returning home alive. Levenna's

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<v Speaker 1>dreams of college and a future beyond the battlefield were

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<v Speaker 1>gone in an instant, eight short weeks after setting foot

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<v Speaker 1>in Iraq, in a mere eight days before her twentieth birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>Levenna Johnson's life was tragically cut short as the first

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<v Speaker 1>female soldier to lose their life in the conflicts in

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<v Speaker 1>Iraq and Afghanistan. The messenger standing at their doorstep delivering

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<v Speaker 1>the harsh news shattered the Johnson families world, and it

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<v Speaker 1>only got heavier when he told them that she had

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<v Speaker 1>tragically taken her own life.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, Okay, that is the worst knock on the

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<v Speaker 2>door you could ever get.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe so. I can think of something that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, of course, they were shocked and struggled to believe

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<v Speaker 1>what they were hearing about their daughter. Doctor Johnson, drawing

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<v Speaker 1>his own on his own military experience, couldn't shake the

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<v Speaker 1>immediate nagging sense of suspicion that was gnawing at him,

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<v Speaker 1>while his wife, Linda flat out rejected the notion that

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter could ever take her own life. So immediately

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<v Speaker 1>they were suspicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, yeah, she was pumped to come home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you wouldn't think that, you know, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>something that exciting to look forward to, that you would

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily you know, well not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, I'm I'm. I would rebuttle that and say,

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<v Speaker 1>many of the people who are struggling with with depression.

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<v Speaker 2>Right before, yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Often are the ones that have the biggest smile on

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<v Speaker 1>their face they hide it, or right.

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<v Speaker 2>Before they have a little bit of time where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they are like quite happy, yeah, and life seems a

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Generally speaking, you can never see this coming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say that regardless of how happy she

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<v Speaker 1>was or regardless of her mood, you never know. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was a feeling that her parents had in their gut.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, there's no way they knew, and they just

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<v Speaker 1>rejected that notion immediately. Now, a day later, a call

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<v Speaker 1>came from one of the generals and they gave them

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<v Speaker 1>more information and offered a glimpse into the events that

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<v Speaker 1>led up to Levenna's untimely death. The investigation that ensued

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<v Speaker 1>uncovered details that painted the puzzling picture. After completing her

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<v Speaker 1>morning shift as usual, Levenna got changed into her training clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>but failed to show up to meet her comrades for training.

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<v Speaker 1>A soldier was sent to search for her, and they

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately discovered her lifeless body in a contractor's tent, surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by charred remnants of paper.

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<v Speaker 2>What the shit?

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<v Speaker 1>The general believed that Levenna had been grappling with pain

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<v Speaker 1>of a recent breakup with her boyfriend of two months,

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<v Speaker 1>which he had done callously through email. They suggested that

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<v Speaker 1>she had printed out these hurtful emails, tucked them away

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<v Speaker 1>in her pocket, and then went on a errand to

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<v Speaker 1>purchase some snacks and a six pack of pop or soda.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're from the States or Canada, you call it

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<v Speaker 1>pap or soda. And along with her on this little

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<v Speaker 1>trek she went with an unnamed other soldier and in

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<v Speaker 1>tow she had her N sixteen service weapon with her.

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<v Speaker 1>So when M sixteen is a rifle? As a military

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<v Speaker 1>narrative unfolded, doctor Johnson found himself increasingly troubled by the

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<v Speaker 1>discrepancy surrounding Levena's death. Despite the official conclusion of suicide,

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<v Speaker 1>He and his wife couldn't shake the idea their daughter

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<v Speaker 1>had instead been murdered and someone was covering it up.

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<v Speaker 1>One particular inconsistency inconsistency immediately cast out on the military's

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<v Speaker 1>account the sheer physical impossibility of Levenna, standing at just

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<v Speaker 1>five foot one inch tall and weighing less than one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds, maneuvering the bulky forty inch long M sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>rifle into her mouth to fire the fatal shot upon

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<v Speaker 1>herself as they said she did. They said she put

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<v Speaker 1>the gun in her mouth, managed to pull the trigger

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<v Speaker 1>to end her life. But a defied logic and deflated

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<v Speaker 1>any sense of credibility upon the official version of events.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, Okay. Also, she's tiny.

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<v Speaker 1>He she is very small. Yes. So, before Levena's body

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<v Speaker 1>was returned home for burial, the military claim that they

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<v Speaker 1>have conducted an autopsy as well, purportedly confirming their narrative

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<v Speaker 1>on how events unfolded. As Levena's casket, draped in the

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<v Speaker 1>American flag, arrived at the airport, the Johnsons grappled with

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<v Speaker 1>the profound sense of loss and disbelief as they picked

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<v Speaker 1>up the casket of their daughter. They were advised against

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<v Speaker 1>viewing their daughter's body and having an open casket due

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<v Speaker 1>to the grim condition of her remains. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 1>had a loaded weapon, pulled the trigger with the barrel

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<v Speaker 1>pointed in her mouth upwards. It wouldn't be a pretty sight.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, parent or no, yeah, you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to see that, No, definitely not. But they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, Okay, it did not stop them because they

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<v Speaker 2>just they knew, they just knew something was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew knew something was wrong, and they were determined

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<v Speaker 1>to face the truth. And they made the decision to

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<v Speaker 1>open her casket.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but fuck that that. They even had to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like they had to look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>So with trembling hands and heavy hearts, they began to

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<v Speaker 1>lift the lid, and in that moment, as they gazed

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<v Speaker 1>upon the face of their deceased daughter, she was remarkably intact,

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<v Speaker 1>near perfectly intact. The fuck not what you expect from

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<v Speaker 1>someone who shot themselves in the head with an M

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen via the roof of their mouth. There was, however,

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<v Speaker 1>a small hole, which was a gunshot wound, just on

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<v Speaker 1>the left side of her head, and it sent a

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<v Speaker 1>shiver down doctor Johnson's spine when he saw it. As

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<v Speaker 1>he gazed upon his daughter, the realization dawned on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone had gone through great lengths to conceal the truth

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<v Speaker 1>behind Levena's death. Not only did she not have a

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<v Speaker 1>gunshot wound in her mouth and exiting through the back

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<v Speaker 1>of her head, the gunshot was on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>her head. She had some abrasions, cuts, some bruising on

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<v Speaker 1>her body around her neck, and even a broken tooth.

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<v Speaker 1>They found much more than a discrepancy in the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>wound these small minor abrasions on her remains. They also

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<v Speaker 1>made the discovery that plastic surgery, which was done to

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<v Speaker 1>mend her broken nose post mortem, existed.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, are you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is making me feel like sick. Yes, like

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<v Speaker 2>sick to my stomach. Holy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So she had a broken nose, plastic surgery was

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<v Speaker 1>done to cover that up.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh. Okay, that's a lot to take in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, despite the military's inconsistencies and insistence that the

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<v Speaker 1>wound was done with an M sixteen rifle, experts Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Marion and Cyril wetch contested this assertion, pointing to the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence suggesting that a nine millimeter pistol was likely the

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<v Speaker 1>weapon instead, and for some unknown reason, the bullet from

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<v Speaker 1>this incident was not recovered, so there could not be

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<v Speaker 1>a match to prove this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they were just sorry, my brain's just going

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<v Speaker 2>like spinning here, No spin away, they were. They were

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<v Speaker 2>just coming up with some sort of story that would

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<v Speaker 2>kind of would show like, would make a parent not

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<v Speaker 2>want to open the coffin, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Something so brutal, so graphic, so terrible to see that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, probably a majority of parents and rightfully so

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have opened it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, No, I wouldn't want to open that casket.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you just probably wouldn't because you're like, holy shit,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't want to. I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 2>like my kid like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was totally different than.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they faced it despite what the military had said,

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<v Speaker 1>despite whoever it was had said, and they discovered how

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<v Speaker 1>inconsistent the story was. The reality is, she wasn't shot

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<v Speaker 1>upward through her mouth. She shot sideways through what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming is approximately her temple. The plastic surgery done on

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<v Speaker 1>her nose to cover up that her nose had been broken,

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<v Speaker 1>the wounds that were on her body, which we will

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<v Speaker 1>get into a little bit later on some of the

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<v Speaker 1>wounds that were found. But there's abrasions, there's a broken tooth,

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<v Speaker 1>there's bruising.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is just shit that you wouldn't have if you

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<v Speaker 2>committed suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially if it was via a gun. Yeah, if sure,

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<v Speaker 1>if you maybe, if you can committed suicide by jumping

425
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:49.319
<v Speaker 1>off a cliff and tumbled or something, Yeah, maybe, but

426
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:52.720
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't fit. Yeah, doesn't fit the means of death.

427
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Holy crap. Okay, this is brutal.

428
00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:03.519
<v Speaker 1>One of the more perplexing, or you could even argue,

429
00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:08.440
<v Speaker 1>disturbing discoveries on her body was that Levenna's white dress gloves,

430
00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 1>which were part of her uniform that she was sent

431
00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>home wearing in her coffin, had been glued on her hands,

432
00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>which is not a normal practice, an unheard of practice.

433
00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:26.759
<v Speaker 1>In fact, these gloves were glued on her hand and

434
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>were concealing strange third degree burns.

435
00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is just like pissing me off.

436
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, I can't blame you on that way.

437
00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, the fuck the gloves are glued to.

438
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Her hand, glued to her hands. They did not want

439
00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>these fucking gloves to be removed.

440
00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Okay, someone needs to just be completely

441
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:54.920
<v Speaker 2>disgusted in themselves because this is unreal.

442
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I'm even wondering if the glue on the

443
00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:01.599
<v Speaker 1>hands could potentially, like put the gloves on, could potentially

444
00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>be means of Hey, you know what if someone's attacked,

445
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:08.799
<v Speaker 1>you go defensive wounds, right, nails. DNA underfingernails is a

446
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.000
<v Speaker 1>very popular way to find DNA of an assailant from

447
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>defensive victims. Yeah, gluing the hands, the gloves in the

448
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 1>hands could be means of a preventing that DNA and

449
00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>b actually removing the DNA with the glue or tainting it.

450
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>That's my assumption or assertion.

451
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>But we and yeah, like also hiding more you know,

452
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:38.559
<v Speaker 2>evidence that points that this was not a suicide, correct, Yeah.

453
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.519
<v Speaker 1>So they were determined to find the truth, and the

454
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Johnson's enlisted the help of a private investigator. What then

455
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>covered was a tale of unspeakable abuse, a reality far

456
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.799
<v Speaker 1>removed from the sanitized version, if you will, presented by

457
00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the military. The decision to hire this private investigator marked

458
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>a turning point for the Johnson family, But even as

459
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Levenna's hidden suffering emerged, the Johnson's grappled with the staggering

460
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:11.839
<v Speaker 1>weight of betrayal from the military. Beyond verbal assault, which

461
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>we already know ones that she was already kind of

462
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>complaining or alluding to her family about but still downplaying.

463
00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>The discovery of ongoing sexual abuse at the hands of

464
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:27.079
<v Speaker 1>her peers was uncovered, and the treatment Levenna was undergoing

465
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>for sexually transmitted infections as a result also cast harsh

466
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>light on her ordeal.

467
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Seriously, yes, this was something that was ongoing.

468
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Correct.

469
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit?

470
00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're looking back and seeing people who are

471
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>not giving her the respect, who are not listening to her,

472
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:54.119
<v Speaker 1>and I'm pretty sure probably would have been ones who

473
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>would have turned on her.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Holy what kind of environment is this? I mean, I

475
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know much about this sort of shit, but like that,

476
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:08.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that is just not okay.

477
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>No, Now, like I've I've worked in some pretty toxic,

478
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:17.400
<v Speaker 1>uh work environments, ones where like not office environments, I'm

479
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>talking like you know, production where you're cursing and screaming

480
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>back and forth and it's like you don't Like I've

481
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:25.799
<v Speaker 1>been inches for my boss's face, telling them to like

482
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>fuck off, like get the fuck out of my face.

483
00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Like that sort of shit. So I've been in toxic

484
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:34.559
<v Speaker 1>environments and I get it. I understand it's how things

485
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>are sometimes that doesn't mean it's okay.

486
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, and but and not to like downplay what you

487
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.839
<v Speaker 2>just said or anything, but the sexual assault, that's not all.

488
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:47.400
<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a crime. Yeah, No, that needs to

489
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 2>be like taken care of.

490
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.279
<v Speaker 1>What I'm alluding to is I'm saying, I understand there's

491
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>ways things are done in certain workplaces, right, And I'm

492
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 1>sure there's certain ways things are done in the military

493
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that you were or even potential people who are listening

494
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>just will not understand. And if we heard it, we'd

495
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.279
<v Speaker 1>be like, how dare they do that? But it's like

496
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:07.039
<v Speaker 1>that's just how.

497
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:08.839
<v Speaker 2>It works, right, Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

498
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>But there's lines. There are lines you do not fucking

499
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>cross in the military. You listen to your fucking superiors.

500
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>In the military. You need to have discipline, you need

501
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 1>to look out for those beside you, behind you, And

502
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>like you say, sexual assault, assault, that's a fucking crime.

503
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>You are now looking at treason. You should be going

504
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 1>to fucking jail. So I understand there's ways things happen,

505
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean that there's an excuse for this bullshit.

506
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>No, no, this like, yeah, I mean yelling at someone

507
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:46.720
<v Speaker 2>or trying to get things across in like you know,

508
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 2>a rude tone or mean tone or whatever, something completely

509
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 2>different than the shit that she is having to go.

510
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, that's that's unacceptable. By far, Yeah, by far so.

511
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Over the ensuing years, the Johnson's waged a tireless battle

512
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>for transparracy, with the military wielding the power of the

513
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Freedom of Information Act to pry open the tightly sealed

514
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:16.839
<v Speaker 1>secrecy that they were holding. Slowly but steadily, little bits

515
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:21.599
<v Speaker 1>of truth were beginning to emerge. There was the revelation

516
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>of a second autopsy that was done when that was

517
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>devoid of any trace of gun residue powder on Levena's hands,

518
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:34.599
<v Speaker 1>which shattered the reality of the suicide narrative, especially if

519
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it was done with a nine millimeter pistol. You may

520
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>argue that if she used the rifle, that she would

521
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.759
<v Speaker 1>not be using her hands. Sure, okay, because you know what,

522
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:46.599
<v Speaker 1>you're probably using your foot to pull the trigger. It's

523
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.039
<v Speaker 1>that far away. You're not gonna be able to reach

524
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the trigger or some sort of implement. Your hand's not

525
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be around the barrel, gotcha, sure, but it most

526
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>likely was done with a nine millimeter to the side

527
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>of the head. Would be gun residue on her hands

528
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>if she did that. Did pull that trigger?

529
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Right?

530
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Yet, as the Johnson's delve deeper, the truth was consistently

531
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.039
<v Speaker 1>being obscured more and more. There was, of course, pieces

532
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.119
<v Speaker 1>they were getting, but there was also more that was

533
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>being hidden, more and deeper, and more and more and more,

534
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of it was being obscured by the

535
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>blurry photographs that were provided by the military of this scene,

536
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the crime scene scene, of her body and along with

537
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>concealed documents and information. Now, these blurry photographs that they

538
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.480
<v Speaker 1>were provided were basically like shitty, low resolution photos that

539
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.559
<v Speaker 1>were then photocopied, So it's black and white, shitty photocopies

540
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 1>that like you can barely see shit.

541
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>So this is unbelievable. I mean, and the parents are

542
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.279
<v Speaker 2>already having to face that their daughters has died and

543
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>they're having to go through all this bullshit.

544
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's I can't imagine having to go through these.

545
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 2>No, I just think it would just be raging.

546
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So within these piles of documents they have been

547
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 1>able to actually get from the military, Like I said,

548
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>through things like the Freedom of Information Act. There was

549
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 1>a Now I couldn't find a whole lot of information

550
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 1>on what this exactly was, but there was a mysterious

551
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>page that was found in this document pile one where

552
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.039
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of illegible things on it, whether

553
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>it was things that were smudged or blacked out, but

554
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:26.039
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like it was a page that shouldn't be

555
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:28.559
<v Speaker 1>in there. They shouldn't have it. It held a lot

556
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:33.079
<v Speaker 1>of information that had been not given to them so far.

557
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, so information that wasn't given to them, and

558
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it was blotted out, blacked out, that

559
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. So they're like, we want to know

560
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:43.039
<v Speaker 1>what this blacked out stuff is, Like, you clearly have

561
00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:46.799
<v Speaker 1>this document, what the fuck is that? Hand it over

562
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 1>right now. Some speculate the document was accidentally included in

563
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the pile, while others actually speculate that there was a

564
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>deliberate act from someone who wanted the family to actually

565
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>uncover the truth. And I hope it is the latter.

566
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I hope that there was someone good out there who's

567
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to do the bet the right thing, regardless of

568
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>its origin. Though the page held the promise of unlocking

569
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:14.799
<v Speaker 1>these concealed secrets, which ignited a fierce legal battle for

570
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the access of these documents. Doctor Johnson refused to relent,

571
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and turning to their congressman for assistance. The Johnsons waged

572
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>a tireless campaign, and they did not yield until the

573
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>elusive document was finally pride from the military's grip.

574
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, see, I was thinking that was going to be

575
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.400
<v Speaker 2>like a battle that he was going to lose.

576
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.519
<v Speaker 1>They got it. WUS paid off and they were given

577
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the file CAM.

578
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a bit surprised with.

579
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Clarity afforded by the newly obtained files, the Johnsons were

580
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 1>confronted with a chilling horror. Instead of the pixelated, grainy,

581
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:56.759
<v Speaker 1>black and white photocopied images that they were given initially,

582
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 1>the file contained clear color of photos of the crime

583
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:06.319
<v Speaker 1>scene and autopsy. So the photos that were actually taken,

584
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>rather than shittley copied, emailed and whatever.

585
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and trying to just conceal exactly so.

586
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 1>Previously obscure details could be seen very clearly and very sharply.

587
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 1>The images painted a scene of nothing more than brutality.

588
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Their Dottie's body is seen covered in bruises, scratches, and

589
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>teeth marks on her torso. The presence of what appeared

590
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to be LIE or another caustic substance was found on

591
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>her vaginal area, which hinted at an attempt to erase

592
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>any DNA evidence.

593
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, holy shit, this is just getting worse and worse.

594
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>There was mud, dirt, and debris coating her back in

595
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>a trail of blood leading from the tent she was

596
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>found in, which suggestested a desperate struggle.

597
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm, yeah, are you good? I don't even like gosh,

598
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 2>just processing this right now is just like it's just

599
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 2>like breaking me a little bit. This is unbelievable. This

600
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 2>is unbelievable.

601
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I couldn't believe when it actually was reading about

602
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>this case. I can't believe I haven't heard of it sooner, honestly,

603
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>And I.

604
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Just I'm trying to figure out too, why the fuck

605
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.639
<v Speaker 2>would would anyone like gobot covering this up. I don't know,

606
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Like I mean, I mean, I get why they would,

607
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>but like they shouldn't have they shouldn't have had to.

608
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, whoever did this just needs to face the consequences.

609
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, someone knows something and someone who is not responsible.

610
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Let me put it that way, because someone who's responsible

611
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 1>is of course going to cover their own tracks. Yeah,

612
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:58.360
<v Speaker 1>someone who was not involved knows something is yes, also helping,

613
00:34:58.480 --> 00:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're also helping.

614
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:03.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know the only reason I'm thinking

615
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:05.519
<v Speaker 2>in my head right now is if it was quite

616
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.599
<v Speaker 2>a few people that were doing this to her, which

617
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 2>is horrible, you can think, because then you know, like

618
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.360
<v Speaker 2>you want to hide. I guess if there's like numerous

619
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 2>people there that need to face some serious shit. But

620
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.320
<v Speaker 2>if it was just one, I don't think you would

621
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>necessarily hide it.

622
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Whether it's one, fucking five, ten, I don't care. Oh yeah,

623
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 1>there is someone who fucking knows, and I guarantee you

624
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a superior who knows, a general,

625
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 1>someone who fucking knows. Gosh, that is so disgusting, because

626
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 1>there is fucking superiors who signed off on the documents

627
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 1>of this, people who issued get her plastic surgery on

628
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>her fucking nose, for example, to fix this so no

629
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 1>one finds out.

630
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's almost being just as guilty. Really.

631
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, So as they tried to process this new

632
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 1>information that was now in their hands, the Johnsons were

633
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.840
<v Speaker 1>left to just ponder the unanswered questions that lingered. Had

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<v Speaker 1>Levenna been targeted for retribution by those she tried to

635
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<v Speaker 1>challenge or speak up against? You know? Was she a

636
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<v Speaker 1>victim of a brutal salt? Was it like who was responsible?

637
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<v Speaker 1>Was it a superior? Was it someone that answered to her? What?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>All these questions came up and there was no answers.

640
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<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately, the Johnson's relentless pursuit of justice would hit

641
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<v Speaker 1>a brick wall when the US Army callously refuse their

642
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 1>demands for accountability, insisting that the case was closed and

643
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>beyond re examination. It's closed, it's done. Nothing more can

644
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<v Speaker 1>be can be done from here?

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00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.079
<v Speaker 2>They should they That's embarrassing.

646
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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>The Johnson family, though, still didn't want to give up.

649
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<v Speaker 1>They turned to the mainstream media for assistance, hoping to

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<v Speaker 1>amplify their cries for justice to a wider audience. CBS

651
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and ABC responded to their plea financing another autopsy in

652
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<v Speaker 1>a bid to uncover the truth behind Levenna's tragic demise.

653
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<v Speaker 1>The findings were horrifying. Levenna's neck had also been broken,

654
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<v Speaker 1>and parts of her vagina tongue and anus had been removed.

655
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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, Yet the military's autopsy made no mention of

656
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<v Speaker 1>such removal, nor did they inform the Johnson's of the

657
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>extent of their daughter's injury. Despite investigating significant resource or sorry,

658
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>investing significant resources into investigating the Levenna sorry Levenna's case,

659
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 1>both CBS and ABC inexplicably chose not to run the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Allegations of military pressure and threats to withhold advertising revenue

662
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<v Speaker 1>and funds were rumored to be partially part of the reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Why well, yeah, that's kind of earlier. While why I

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<v Speaker 2>was so surprised that they were able to get this

665
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<v Speaker 2>the folder with more information because they're literally up against

666
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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the government.

667
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they are so that It just yeah, not only

668
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<v Speaker 1>the government. It's not like you're sitting here like fighting

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00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump or Justin Trudeau. It's like, no, you're going

670
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<v Speaker 1>up against the armed military government. Like this is a

671
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<v Speaker 1>whole other category here. You got the dudes who are like, yeah,

672
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<v Speaker 1>we got a fucking sniper up on the tower with

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<v Speaker 1>his crosshairs on you right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It really shows like the character of the parents though,

675
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>like they are they are like badasses. Hey, like, they

676
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 2>don't give a shit. They're just like, we want to

677
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<v Speaker 2>figure out what happened to our daughter, and we don't

678
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<v Speaker 2>care who we're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were fucking relentless. They did what they could

680
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<v Speaker 1>fucking do, and they did tenfold beyond that.

681
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<v Speaker 2>Which is so awesome in honor of their daughter.

682
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<v Speaker 1>Right, I couldn't agree more. That's all they did is

683
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<v Speaker 1>continued their fight. And that's literally what I have written next.

684
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<v Speaker 1>The Johnson's continued their fight because that's what they did.

685
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<v Speaker 1>They continued. They were listing support of congressional representatives to

686
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<v Speaker 1>pressure the Army into reopening the investigation. Yet, when confronted

687
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<v Speaker 1>with the contradictions that were brought up via autopsies, the photos, everything,

688
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>all the unanswered questions surrounding her death, Army officials remained

689
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<v Speaker 1>with the narrative. Out with the narrative they had It

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<v Speaker 1>was a suicide. What about her broken nose, a broken neck?

691
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<v Speaker 1>It was a suicide.

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00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no way, there's no whole way.

693
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<v Speaker 1>Both the drag marks from the tent, What about the

694
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:48.039
<v Speaker 1>teeth marks on her torso it was a suicide. What

695
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<v Speaker 1>about the removal of orifices from her body, which were

696
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>clearly done in one of the autopsies you guys did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a suicide. She put an N sixteen into

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<v Speaker 1>her mouth, pulled the trigger, even though that M sixteen

699
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<v Speaker 1>is way too big for her body and the bullet

700
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>hole is found on the side of her fucking head.

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<v Speaker 2>It was smaller gun.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they just no suicide, this is what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even understand how that's like, how that can

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<v Speaker 2>be justified.

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<v Speaker 1>That's literally like I've got my hand in the cookie

706
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 1>jar and I'm eating a cookie and there's chocolate all

707
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.760
<v Speaker 1>over my face, and you walk into the kitchen, Ben,

708
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.559
<v Speaker 1>are you eating cookies? And I'm just like, no, no,

709
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<v Speaker 1>And I just keep chewing and I keep pulling cookies

710
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.599
<v Speaker 1>out of the cookie jar and I keep stuffing my face, which, honestly,

711
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<v Speaker 1>that kind of sounds like me thanks for backing me up.

712
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<v Speaker 2>I kind of like could really relate to this just

713
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<v Speaker 2>picturing it and.

714
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<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking at you. No, I didn't touch the

715
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.159
<v Speaker 1>cookies and I'm literally eating it in front of you.

716
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<v Speaker 1>That that's no fucking different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because like what this girl, this woman went through

718
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:55.760
<v Speaker 2>just seems like complete hell.

719
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that they're covering it up. Makes it

721
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:01.639
<v Speaker 2>so much worse.

722
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so much worse. Yeap. So the Johnson family were

723
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.679
<v Speaker 1>left with the painful reality that their daughter's killer remained

724
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>unpunished or killer, while they were condemned to a lifetime

725
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>of anguish unanswered questions without their daughter. Her tragic fate,

726
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>it seems, will forever be buried by a bureaucratic red

727
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>tape of the USA military. And that is the story

728
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 1>of Levenna Johnson.

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00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:35.559
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, that is horrible. That's a horrible story.

730
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<v Speaker 1>I know it, just there is no resolve. It got

731
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:44.159
<v Speaker 1>worse and worse and worse. We know the fucking answer,

732
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 1>but we will never get confirmation of it. We will

733
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.280
<v Speaker 1>never understand who. We only understand what. We don't know why,

734
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:54.519
<v Speaker 1>we don't know who, We don't know how many.

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00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm I feel like it would be more than one.

736
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<v Speaker 2>I agree, because I think it was just one person. Well,

737
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<v Speaker 2>A like that her injuries were so substantial, and if

738
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<v Speaker 2>it was just one, I'm not sure superiors would go

739
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<v Speaker 2>to the extent that they are they have to cover

740
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:18.639
<v Speaker 2>that up necessarily if it was just one individual, right,

741
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you know.

742
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:19.679
<v Speaker 1>I agree?

743
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 2>So I think it was many many. I agree, and

744
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<v Speaker 2>maybe even them themselves could have.

745
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Been very well could have been. We recently just did

746
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>an episode on a high ranking military official who commanded

747
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>some fucking atrocious crimes on a subordinate in fact, broke

748
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:48.079
<v Speaker 1>into her house and fucking sexually assaulted her and killed

749
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 1>her and hit her body. I can't remember the dude's name.

750
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It was just a couple episodes ago.

751
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we just forget it's instantly, Okay, was she r?

752
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to remember those guys.

753
00:42:57.559 --> 00:42:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, we don't even try to, but like

754
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 2>she the only the only woman there. I we don't

755
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<v Speaker 2>even know how big it?

756
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how

757
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 1>big the camp was. I don't know how big her

758
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>regime or whatever the word is called. I said it

759
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:17.760
<v Speaker 1>at the very beginning. Hold on, I'm gonna go back.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is it now or no, battalion? Is it battalion?

761
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I can't remember.

762
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, her battalion? Okay, yeah, okay, I don't know how

763
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.679
<v Speaker 1>big her battalion was. I don't know if there's other

764
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.639
<v Speaker 1>battalions stationed in the same camp encampments as them as

765
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:36.199
<v Speaker 1>For all I know, it could be like fucking twelve

766
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of them camping out in the bush and there's like

767
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 1>three tenths I don't know, Yeah, yeah, you don't.

768
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my goodness, just like such an innocent life

769
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 2>that just had the best of intentions.

770
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, I know, and then some fucking piece

771
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:56.199
<v Speaker 1>of shit decided that, uh, and they're.

772
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Just getting away with it, living their life like holy shit.

773
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope that they are just haunted, like just fucking

774
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 2>haunted of what they did, their actions, to the extent

775
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.079
<v Speaker 2>that they just can't even live a normal life whatsoever.

776
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.599
<v Speaker 2>I hope so too, because they should not.

777
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>They should be in jail, I agree, But instead they're

778
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 1>most likely getting praise for their service to the country,

779
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.519
<v Speaker 1>which makes me fucking sick to my stomach.

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00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah that does.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, Hopefully, you guys, I don't want to say enjoyed

782
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>this episode every time I'm like, hopefully enjoyed this episode.

783
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.159
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to say enjoyed this episode because they're fucking shitty,

784
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 1>shitty stories. Hopefully hopefully.

785
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how any word that because right now

786
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm just pissed.

787
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<v Speaker 1>I know me too, So hopefully you thank you for

788
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 1>being here. You guys are awesome. For supporting us. How

789
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:55.039
<v Speaker 1>is that hopefully one day Levenna gets some fucking retribution

790
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>to her name, because that would be amazing. If you

791
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.280
<v Speaker 1>guys want to check out any more of our stories

792
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.719
<v Speaker 1>that we have, I listened to our whole back catalog.

793
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 1>We got over one hundred and eighty episodes out there

794
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.280
<v Speaker 1>on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you're listening, you're listening right now,

795
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<v Speaker 1>you have access to like almost two hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode that's impressive look at Us.

797
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<v Speaker 1>And then on Patreon we got even more, so you

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00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.239
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799
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<v Speaker 2>At Us go Whoever, who would have ever thought, hey,

800
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know when we first started in our living room,

801
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:21.960
<v Speaker 2>this is a This.

802
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Has taken me to that Hot Wings episode with what's

803
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 1>his name? Paul Rudd? Look at us, look at us?

804
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Always well done. That is a story that really did

805
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.079
<v Speaker 2>does need to be brought to to attention.

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00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, Levenna's story needs to be told more often.

807
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, so wow, this one broke my heart. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for being here. We appreciate you, and as always,

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<v Speaker 1>stay wicked
