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<v Speaker 1>You're listening in Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight's story doesn't start with a footprint or a whoop

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods. It starts with a boy lying in

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<v Speaker 1>bed playing with kittens when something heavy begins circling their trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>That boy was David, and what followed was a lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>of encounters, from screams in the Trinity ELPs, to glowing

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<v Speaker 1>red orbs that drifted through walls, to the moment he

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<v Speaker 1>opened his eyes and realized he wasn't alone, a family

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<v Speaker 1>of sasquatched, three alien beings, and a voice in his

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<v Speaker 1>head that told him to drink pickle juice. This isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a sci fi story. This is David's life and it

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<v Speaker 1>all came rushing back in the Elliott State Forest in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen nine, nights of eerie Knox shadowy movement, and

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<v Speaker 1>finally a roar so loud it shook their souls. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the story of David and the night the forest

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<v Speaker 1>roared back. So stay with us. I pick the Society.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the privilege of talking to David today. David's

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<v Speaker 1>an individual that you've heard on the show. During the

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<v Speaker 1>call in show heard him before and we had a

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<v Speaker 1>good chat then. But David's back to share some some

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<v Speaker 1>other very interesting encounters. He is from out there in

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<v Speaker 1>the great state of Oregon, and welcome to the show again, David.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going man, Thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Jeremiah. It's going really good. I'm excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I'm this is going to be a fun one.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking before the show started recording, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be going some some areas that the show normally

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't go, but it does have to do with Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm going to say, let's let's pass

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<v Speaker 1>things right over to you, David, bring us back to

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<v Speaker 1>the first instance that you're wanting to share with the

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<v Speaker 1>listeners tonight, please, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. So it all started and I remember the year

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<v Speaker 2>because when we moved to this little place and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you the place, Jeremiah. You can look it up

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to. It was a place called Junction City, California.

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<v Speaker 2>It was about seven miles west of Weaverville, California. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's before you get to Junk City, there's a place

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<v Speaker 2>on the right called Slattery Pond and it's like just

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<v Speaker 2>the sal Pond. And we lived up the little dirt

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<v Speaker 2>road behind that pond, and it was the only house

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<v Speaker 2>back there, and it was it had turned nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 2>nine to nineteen eighty because I had messed up on

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<v Speaker 2>my school work paper and had to erase the seventy

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<v Speaker 2>nine and put eighty. So I remember that. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>only reason why I remember the actual year that this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we'd lived there probably a couple months or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just a place that we stayed in

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<v Speaker 2>between us buying this property. So we stayed there just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of momentarily. And so when we moved in there,

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<v Speaker 2>the people that rented at the place to us told

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<v Speaker 2>us about this big and I'm doing like a quote

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<v Speaker 2>with my finger bear that would come around that previous

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<v Speaker 2>renters had talked about that scared the previous renters. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it was a double white mobile home, and the

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<v Speaker 2>back half of the trailer was kind of off off

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<v Speaker 2>the ground because it's the ground sloped off right there,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was up on like the cinder blocks, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say the bottom of the trader was like three

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<v Speaker 2>feet off the ground or something like that. But me

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<v Speaker 2>and my brother's room was in the very back that

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<v Speaker 2>that end of the trader and there was the hallway,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there was a pantry across from our bedroom door,

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<v Speaker 2>and it used to be an old fruit pantry. Well

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<v Speaker 2>that there was no inside door, so if you're walking

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<v Speaker 2>the hallway, you could just walk right in. There was

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<v Speaker 2>no door there, but the outside door there used to

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<v Speaker 2>be an outside entrance. That door was gone, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was like a piece of plywood that they had nailed

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<v Speaker 2>I think I only could be screwed. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was just nailed on there. And so we moved into

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<v Speaker 2>this place and we've been living there, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>probably a couple of weeks or something. And at night,

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<v Speaker 2>you could we started hearing like these screams coming off

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no owls as it's basically would start to

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<v Speaker 2>go into like the Trinity Outs wilderness kind of areas,

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<v Speaker 2>just all wilderness area behind that place, and we would

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<v Speaker 2>just hear these screams, like a woman being murdered or worse,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and our whole family, there were six of

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<v Speaker 2>us kids would just sit there with the window open,

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<v Speaker 2>listening to this screaming coming off the side of the mountain,

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad and my mom would be like, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 2>what is that what is that? And my dad would

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<v Speaker 2>be like, I don't know. I think it's maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>fox or a fox cab. We all, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was so loud, it was it was scary, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would have been if it was if that happened at

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eight let's say, just from nineteen eighty, I would

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<v Speaker 2>have been nine years old at the time, and we

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<v Speaker 2>just all of his kids knew that it didn't sound right.

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<v Speaker 2>So then later on, my brother Charty, he was the

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<v Speaker 2>oldest of us kids, he must have been about fifteen ish,

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<v Speaker 2>comes running into the house one day and he's like, mom, Mom, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>I found a huge footprint. She's like, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, mom, I found a huge footprint.

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<v Speaker 2>It looked like ours, but it's huge. And he was

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<v Speaker 2>doing like his hands and it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen inches or twenty inches or something huge footprint and

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<v Speaker 2>my mom was like, are you sure it's not a bear?

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<v Speaker 2>Were stepped into his own track and all that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the standard question, which is good to ask. He's like, mom, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>it was there was multiple tracks and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>one huge footprint, not two tracks in one. And so

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<v Speaker 2>all this kind of adds up to this last bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So me and my oldest brother sucked in that back

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom on the same bed, and I slept up against

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<v Speaker 2>the wall underneath the window. And it had to be

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<v Speaker 2>sometime during the middle and I don't know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to guess it was around midnight or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm laying there on my back and i have

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<v Speaker 2>a little kitten on my chest and I'm playing with

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<v Speaker 2>the little kitten, and there was a few kittens up

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<v Speaker 2>on the window sill, and it wasn't like a full moon,

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<v Speaker 2>and you could see the light coming through the window,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the kittens were like really highlighted in the window.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're all just sitting there doing our thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I noticed the kittens up in the window just

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<v Speaker 2>stopped what they were doing, and they were looking out

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<v Speaker 2>the window, all hunched up like when they're playing and

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<v Speaker 2>they hunch up and all fluffed up, and both of

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<v Speaker 2>them were doing the same thing, looking out the window,

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<v Speaker 2>and their heads were moving like they were watching something.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the kitten and I was holding did the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing, just boom, just stop and fluffed up and

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<v Speaker 2>was looking out towards the wall. Pretty soon I just

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<v Speaker 2>hear boom boom, boom boom, and it's getting louder and louder,

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<v Speaker 2>and it goes right right to the right of my window,

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<v Speaker 2>walks right around the end of the trailer, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can hear it walking up the other side, just boom boom,

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<v Speaker 2>and you could feel these footsteps. And I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>wake up my brother and he's not waking up. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not talking. I'm just trying to use my hand to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of shake him. And it's quiet for just like

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<v Speaker 2>one second, and then I hear it like like this

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<v Speaker 2>breaking sound, and you could literally kind of feel the

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<v Speaker 2>mobile home like shimmy, like if you get a big win.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like shaking, but you could just feel as

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<v Speaker 2>little like hear creak and just feel that movement a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. And so that scared me. So I slip

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<v Speaker 2>out of bed as quiet as I can, and I

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<v Speaker 2>walk over to the door and I'm pushing it on

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<v Speaker 2>the door a little bit and turning the handle as

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<v Speaker 2>quiet as I can because I wanted to sneak out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to run. I had to go past where

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<v Speaker 2>that happened. I knew it was a plywood at that pantry,

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<v Speaker 2>that food pantry and so the door goes click, just

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<v Speaker 2>a tiny little click, and I just said boom boom

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<v Speaker 2>boom boom boom boom boom boom, just running off. So

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<v Speaker 2>I took my chance, you know, my moment, and just

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<v Speaker 2>threw the door open and just h teled into my

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<v Speaker 2>mom and dad's room. And my mom let me slip in,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, oh, it's probably no cats fighting

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<v Speaker 2>and this and that, and I was like, no, mom, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a monster offside that broke the house. It broke

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<v Speaker 2>the house. And she was like, no, no, no, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake, and just go to sleep and we'll look

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<v Speaker 2>at it in the morning. So the next morning or

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<v Speaker 2>the next day, it wasn't the next morning. The next day,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom and my older brother come and picked us

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<v Speaker 2>up from school in Johnson City, and my brother's like, hey, David,

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember that what you here last night? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, and then he goes, just wait till we

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<v Speaker 2>get home. I was like, okay. So we get home

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad, who worked at the mill, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were revill. He just got home and he was standing

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<v Speaker 2>out there on the side of the trader with that

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<v Speaker 2>plywood was nailed up and he's just standing there looking

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<v Speaker 2>and all of us go walking up there and at

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<v Speaker 2>the very top of that door, like I said, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a regular sized door, but the door was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just plywood. Was the plywood was pushed in

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<v Speaker 2>at the very top and you could see like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to say, claw marks, but you usedee gouges into

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<v Speaker 2>in the plywood? What pushed it in at the very

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<v Speaker 2>very top And my dad just standing there looking at it,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're like cranking our heads up looking at this

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<v Speaker 2>thing because that's the end of the trader where the

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<v Speaker 2>ground sloped off, and it's still you know, like up

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<v Speaker 2>at the top of that door. And my mom's like, chuck,

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<v Speaker 2>what could have done that? And he's got that look.

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<v Speaker 2>All this kids could see it. My mom could see

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<v Speaker 2>it too, and he's got that look just looking at that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, I guess a big bear. And my

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<v Speaker 2>mom's like, what kind of bear could do that? And

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, I guess a big one. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was basically the end of anything that

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<v Speaker 2>happened there. We ended up moving up to the property

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<v Speaker 2>that we bought up and now the property we bought

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<v Speaker 2>was up near Trinity Center, California, which is north from

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<v Speaker 2>Weaverville on Highway three, and we lived out in the

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<v Speaker 2>boundocks up on that road. And so at this date

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you, I don't know. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>a feeling that we lived up there for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like two to two to four years or something. So

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<v Speaker 2>I might have been in that twelve thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>range somewhere in there. And I just I, me and

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<v Speaker 2>my younger brother now slept in the living room this

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<v Speaker 2>single wide mobile home. We slept in the living room,

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<v Speaker 2>My two sisters slept in the first bedroom in the hallway,

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom dad slept in the back bedroom, and

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<v Speaker 2>my older brother and my oldest so he had moved out,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was just me and my younger brother and

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<v Speaker 2>then my two sisters. So I had woke up in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the night on that I stopt sleeping

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<v Speaker 2>in the living room on the hide of bed couch

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<v Speaker 2>and feeling like I had been choked. Like I woke

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<v Speaker 2>up feeling like I was choking, and it scared me

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<v Speaker 2>bad enough when I went up the hallway to my

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<v Speaker 2>But so she was like, well, can you can you

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like I was being choked. And she's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle night sometime, And while I'm laying there

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<v Speaker 2>how you can see the flicker of the fire through

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<v Speaker 2>your eyelids. And before I opened my eyes, I asked myself,

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<v Speaker 2>my eyelids, and I could tell it was moving. So

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<v Speaker 2>the room was already kind of starting to glow this

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<v Speaker 2>red color, like like a red glow. And I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>if this kind of goes over the deep end, Jeremiah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's a strange story and it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to even spit it out, but I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell it, like what happened. And so I'm laying there,

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<v Speaker 2>and when I opened my eyes, there's this red glow

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<v Speaker 2>coming through the walls of my mom and dad's bedroom,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was coming from the hallway. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>to the room. And so I'm laying there. My mom's

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle, my Dad's on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>on my back, and I'm watching this red glow kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sway back and forth, left and right, like it

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<v Speaker 2>was going left, moving left and right, but getting brighter

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<v Speaker 2>and brighter, and just right at the top of my

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<v Speaker 2>mom and dad door, right where the wall met the ceiling,

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<v Speaker 2>this red ball, red orb a little smaller than a basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>It was probably like a foot in diameter or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. A red ball just you just comes right

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<v Speaker 2>through the wall right there, right at the ceiling in

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<v Speaker 2>the wall junction, and it's like sticking halfway in my

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<v Speaker 2>mom and Dad's room. There's no sound, there's no smell.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just this red ball and it looks like I

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<v Speaker 2>always describe it as a red light and said it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like lava, like molten lava. How it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>turns and older, you know, being older, I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it was more like plasma. That looked like plasma, just

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<v Speaker 2>turning and around the outside of that red ball was

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<v Speaker 2>for like three feet around, three or four feet around.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like this purple or a purple glow. And

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see through the ball, but you could see

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<v Speaker 2>through that purple like I could still see the paneling

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<v Speaker 2>of the mobile home walls, the lines and the paneling.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see that through that purple and from the

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<v Speaker 2>red into the purple. It was throwing these white, big sparkles,

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<v Speaker 2>like the sparklers for Fourth of July, just big sparkles,

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<v Speaker 2>and when they got to the edge of that purple,

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<v Speaker 2>they would go out. They'd never left that purple. They

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<v Speaker 2>just stayed within that. And so I sit up, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's beautiful. It's not scary at this point. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>freaking out. I'm just looking at this beautiful look like

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<v Speaker 2>a big firework. And so I sit up and I

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<v Speaker 2>put my left hand and my mom's hip. She's facing

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<v Speaker 2>away from me, and like I said, the rooms all

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<v Speaker 2>lit up red. I mean I could see around the room.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see my mom and dad laying there. And

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<v Speaker 2>I put my hand on my mom's hip and on

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<v Speaker 2>my point at the light with my right hand, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, mom, look at that red light. And she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't move. I'm like, mom, look at that red light.

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<v Speaker 2>And she literally started to lift her head up and

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<v Speaker 2>laid it directly just right back down. And I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at her side profile so I can see her mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>and her mouth didn't move. But I heard Son in

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<v Speaker 2>your dream and go back to sleep. And I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mom, it's right there. And I turned back

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<v Speaker 2>and looked at it, and I'm still pointing at it.

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<v Speaker 2>My left hand is still on my mom's hip, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like as soon as I said no, I'm not mom,

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<v Speaker 2>it's right there, I turn and it's like two three,

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<v Speaker 2>And then now suddenly this is where gets really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>So forgive me. But now I'm not in my mom

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<v Speaker 2>and dad's room anymore, and I'm still pointing with my

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<v Speaker 2>left hand is still in the same position and that

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<v Speaker 2>it was. But now I'm standing there looking through like

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<v Speaker 2>a clear wall, like a glass wall, looking out into stars,

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of like waking up from the surgery or

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<v Speaker 2>like passing out, how you kind of wake up and

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<v Speaker 2>it takes a minute for your eyes to focus and

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<v Speaker 2>for your mind to kind of get right for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just remember looking from out looking out that

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<v Speaker 2>glass wall or a clear wall, then just looking down

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<v Speaker 2>at my arm, my left arm, and I can see

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<v Speaker 2>my pajamas. I can tell you exactly what pajamas I

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<v Speaker 2>had on, long sleeve pajamas and holding my hand, my

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<v Speaker 2>left hand now is this red haired, thick, black skinned

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<v Speaker 2>wrinkles with black fingernails that kind of went to a point,

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<v Speaker 2>like thick fingernails that kind of went to a point

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<v Speaker 2>hand and my eyes just go right up that red arm.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's this, My dad's sized bigfoot, just looking down

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<v Speaker 2>at me. We're standing shoulders shoulder. He's on my left,

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<v Speaker 2>I say he. I don't know if it was he

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<v Speaker 2>or not. It was on my left and it's looking

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<v Speaker 2>straight down at me and his eyes were like huge,

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<v Speaker 2>like whites in his eyes, like surprised look looking at me.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's it's holding mom's hand, and mom's holding dad's hand,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're all me and the little one, and I

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<v Speaker 2>say little. It is like the size of my dad

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<v Speaker 2>had little compared to the other two. Mama was probably

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<v Speaker 2>eight foot, looked just like the Patty bigfoot, but red

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<v Speaker 2>haired Dad must have been ten feet tall or something.

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<v Speaker 2>He was huge. And they're standing candy corner, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>all four holding hands, and they're looking down at me

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<v Speaker 2>with the same look in their eyes. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>just my eyes go bo boom boom, look at those three.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I looked to the right a little more,

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<v Speaker 2>and standing with their back against the wall was two

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<v Speaker 2>alien beams. One was like a prying mantis looking thing,

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<v Speaker 2>had black oval shaped eyes, that brown side of its head,

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<v Speaker 2>big jaws, like cheeks that weren't skin, they were bone,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were kind of kind of like a dark

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<v Speaker 2>brown but with black streaks, kind of like charcoal bone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the best I could describe it, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>if you char cold bone a little bit in a

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<v Speaker 2>fire or something that look. And they had their back.

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<v Speaker 2>It had its back to a wall, and the wall

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of a cream color. I couldn't tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what the ceiling and the floor looked like. I could

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what else was in the room. I could

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<v Speaker 2>just tell you know. It was like my eyes were directed.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at the three bigfoot and looked over to

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<v Speaker 2>the right. There's this mantis looking thing standing there with us,

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<v Speaker 2>back to a wall, and beside it was this blue,

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<v Speaker 2>tall alien being with like a big, huge, perfectly round head,

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<v Speaker 2>and its eyes were more almond shape, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a gray alien, but were kind of silvery, like like

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<v Speaker 2>the old coppers glasses. How they have that silver mirror

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<v Speaker 2>to them that look, and I could see them the skin,

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<v Speaker 2>you could see like the veins through the skin throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the whole upper body and they're not looking at me.

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<v Speaker 2>They're looking kind of to my right beside me, those

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<v Speaker 2>two who were standing side by side, and they're tall.

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<v Speaker 2>There's tall is the Bigfoot. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 2>were as tall as Mom or Dad, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>both like in that eight nine foot tall, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had to guess. And so my eyes go

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<v Speaker 2>from them and I looked to the right. Right beside me,

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<v Speaker 2>literally standing probably a couple of feet from me, was

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<v Speaker 2>a little gray alien being looking up at them, at

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<v Speaker 2>the two aliens, the two tall aliens, and it's head's

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<v Speaker 2>bobbing during kind of like a bobblehead, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>making no sound of it. You could tell. I could

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<v Speaker 2>tell that it was communicating with those two. And then

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as I look at that and see the

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<v Speaker 2>head bobbing, it turns and looks at me. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>pretty close to the same eyes. I was probably a

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<v Speaker 2>little taller, but I just remember it turned and looked

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<v Speaker 2>at me. And then the next thing I know is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm walking coming kind of coming out of that same

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<v Speaker 2>waking up from a surgery or passing out feeling starting

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<v Speaker 2>to come to, and I'm walking up the hallway like

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<v Speaker 2>from my mom and dad's room while walking up the

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<v Speaker 2>hallway back towards the living room, and I hear in

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<v Speaker 2>my head, I hear drink pickle juice. Drink pickle juice.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just remember going to the kitchen, opened the

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<v Speaker 2>fridge and popped open the jar pickles and just chugged

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<v Speaker 2>pickle juice and crawled back in bed with my brother,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was that was the end of that. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the last thing I remember. For years and years,

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<v Speaker 2>the family only remembered me talking about the red light.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was probably ten or fifteen years ago. I

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<v Speaker 2>just happened to be watching I wasn't watching. I was

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<v Speaker 2>flipping through the channels and Ancient Aliens was on, and

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of, I wonder what these crackpots are about

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, so I was like, I'm gonna check

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<v Speaker 2>it out and see what they're talking about. The first

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<v Speaker 2>thing they showed was that same red orb going through

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<v Speaker 2>like military bases and going in and out of like

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<v Speaker 2>missile silos and stuff like that, going through walls and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. And I just literally jumped up and ran

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<v Speaker 2>into the bedroom and got my wife. I'm like, babe, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta come see. She ran in there and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, that's what I saw right there, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was literally had peers. It wasn't like I was, but

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<v Speaker 2>I literally had like these tears in my eyes from

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<v Speaker 2>emotions because I didn't think about anybody else seeing that

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<v Speaker 2>I already ever talked about it ever, and then to

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<v Speaker 2>see it just it really it was profound and I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe that I just was looking at what I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that was pretty much the end of that

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<v Speaker 2>junction of the Junction City and then at Trinity Center Experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh, I haven't completely lost so far.

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<v Speaker 1>But so I I want to talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about the the abduction just because I mean, it's so

416
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<v Speaker 1>unique to this show. That's it's something that that really

417
00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:13.599
<v Speaker 1>does not come up. So man, it's so the way

418
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:21.799
<v Speaker 1>that the Bigfoot looked to you in there. Were they

419
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:24.279
<v Speaker 1>well I guess you said one of them actually did

420
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:25.400
<v Speaker 1>look like Patty, didn't you.

421
00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they all look yeah.

422
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:32.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's so so interesting. And I mean you're you're

423
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:35.200
<v Speaker 1>what probably around eleven to twelve at this time.

424
00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking it was, yeah, between between ten and fourteen,

425
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:44.759
<v Speaker 2>and I would say twelve ish is white in the ballpark.

426
00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I honestly couldn't tell you exactly what year.

427
00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:52.759
<v Speaker 1>It was, Okay, and I mean not on any substances

428
00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>at all.

429
00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:55.839
<v Speaker 2>Right, what with that?

430
00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:00.640
<v Speaker 1>No, no substance use at all at that, you know, No, no, nope,

431
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>that's that's so so interesting. Why do you think that

432
00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the pickle juice was all all about that? That's one

433
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:12.160
<v Speaker 1>of the most interesting parts.

434
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, the people like talked about that, you know

435
00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:19.119
<v Speaker 2>too when I told I told my story on a

436
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:21.880
<v Speaker 2>couple other places too, But you know, me and you

437
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:23.720
<v Speaker 2>were trying to hook this up. It's been a while

438
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:25.400
<v Speaker 2>since we were trying to get together to tell it.

439
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:29.200
<v Speaker 2>That people saying that that's a common theme for like

440
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the dehydration, and another one was saying it could help

441
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 2>for like shock. Somebody was saying, for like shock, I

442
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.359
<v Speaker 2>have no idea. And you know how you hear yourself

443
00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:42.119
<v Speaker 2>when you're like have a thought in your head, you

444
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:43.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of hear your own little voice in your head,

445
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:48.359
<v Speaker 2>not like schizophrenia, but your own monologue in your head.

446
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.759
<v Speaker 2>It was my voice saying, drink pickle juice, drink pickle juice.

447
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.319
<v Speaker 2>And I I have no idea why it said that,

448
00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:01.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, or why that would be important or not.

449
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:03.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I do feel like you that

450
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>there's got to be something to that.

451
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's got to be some scientific I like the

452
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:17.759
<v Speaker 1>ideas that those other people came up with though dehydration,

453
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>et cetera.

454
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Man, how I got to tell you, Yeah, it felt

455
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>like the Bigfoot were abducted like me. That's what it

456
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>felt like. And when I told no, when I get

457
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:35.680
<v Speaker 2>into detail, I know, we're a kind of amount of

458
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:40.319
<v Speaker 2>time thing, but I tell people like, oh, man, I

459
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:42.680
<v Speaker 2>bet you were scared or freak out or this and that,

460
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.599
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you know what, there was like

461
00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.799
<v Speaker 2>zero emotion nothing. It was how I said, It would

462
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 2>be like if you were sitting in a big room

463
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 2>and you had a bunch of people in there, a

464
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:54.240
<v Speaker 2>bunch of people you knew something you didn't and you're

465
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 2>just sitting off the side and you're just looking around,

466
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.480
<v Speaker 2>like looking around, just seeing what was going on. That's

467
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:05.680
<v Speaker 2>what it felt like. There was no fear. I don't

468
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>know if my eyes were big, like the Bigfoot eyes

469
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.759
<v Speaker 2>were big, but they had like that total surprise look

470
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 2>on their face. And I have a feeling that they

471
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 2>were in the same predicament I was. And the strangest

472
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.640
<v Speaker 2>thing about this, jere mind. We didn't have really TV.

473
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.559
<v Speaker 2>We had like your We didn't have like, you know,

474
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>satellite or anything like that, just you're basic like ABC

475
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:32.519
<v Speaker 2>and PBS channel back in the day. So I didn't

476
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:34.640
<v Speaker 2>get to watch anything that could have put that in

477
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>my mind. But we had these neighbors. The closest neighbor

478
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 2>that lived to us lived down the hill from us,

479
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:46.319
<v Speaker 2>and there was a man and the daughter and was

480
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.920
<v Speaker 2>married to this man who was like thirty four or

481
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>something at the time, but his mental status was like

482
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:55.279
<v Speaker 2>the same age as me and my little brother. We

483
00:27:55.319 --> 00:28:00.319
<v Speaker 2>would play like kids out there, and that family used

484
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 2>to tell us that they fed a family of bigfoot

485
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.599
<v Speaker 2>red hair bigfoot, a mom and dad and a young

486
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 2>one off their deck by hand, and we used to

487
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of knock to their face that like kind of

488
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 2>laugh at them, like, man, these people are crazy, you

489
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, They are weird. And then that happened,

490
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, late on life, after I kind of

491
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>start putting two and two together, It's like, well, it

492
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:30.559
<v Speaker 2>makes sense and it kind of fits. And I think

493
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.680
<v Speaker 2>that those that family was abducted, not the people, but

494
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the family of Bigfoot. I believe was abducted.

495
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, I was, oh, yeah, sure, I

496
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 1>mean that's why. And they're feeding them by hand. That

497
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>is wild. I mean I've heard of an individual leaving

498
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 1>food on the back porch and then they were eating

499
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 1>off the back porch by hand. That is that's a

500
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>whole different ballgame. And this all happened in Trinity Center.

501
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:05.079
<v Speaker 2>You're saying, yes, there's a little place. It's actually about

502
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Speaker 2>six miles before Trinity Center. There's a little community. It's

503
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of mostly summer homes and there it's just a

504
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:15.640
<v Speaker 2>road that kind of winds up. It's called Covington Mill

505
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:19.039
<v Speaker 2>and that is the actual name of the place where

506
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>this all happened. But yes, by Trinity Center, and it's

507
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.680
<v Speaker 2>wooly and if you look at it from like the

508
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:31.559
<v Speaker 2>the Patterson Gimmon Fight as the crow flies, I think

509
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>it's like fifty miles or something from there.

510
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's it's in that area. I mean,

511
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you've got Mount Shasta northeast of it, and Dunsmore can

512
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.079
<v Speaker 1>get some interesting stuff comes out. I mean, you're in

513
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that whole area.

514
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Dude.

515
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.799
<v Speaker 1>It's it's wild. Have you looked to see if there's

516
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 1>been other abductions in that area over the years.

517
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I actually have not. I did at one point look

518
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 2>for like just bigfoot reports and stuff like that, and

519
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't recall seeing any. I know, there's a lot

520
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of weird stuff to go on around Mount Shasta, a

521
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of war about and stuff. And then you got

522
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 2>hoop Are on the other side of the mountains right there,

523
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and Willow Creek and stuff like that. It's all right

524
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 2>there in the same general area. So a lot of history,

525
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

526
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Is this abduction something that you find laying over in

527
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>your mind a lot or.

528
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>I you know, since I've been an adult, you know,

529
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm waging an adult now. But I did not ever

530
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.559
<v Speaker 2>talk about it growing up, the duction part. I never

531
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.240
<v Speaker 2>told none of my family about it ever, kind of

532
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>just buried it down and always talked about the red

533
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>light that came into mom Dad's room. And they remember

534
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 2>me telling them about, you know, trying to wake mom up.

535
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:08.279
<v Speaker 2>And my mom doesn't remember, my dad doesn't remember. And

536
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>my mom was one of those ones like when I

537
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.279
<v Speaker 2>first went in there, when I felt like I was choking,

538
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>she wakes up when one of his kids went into

539
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>the room. She was awake immediately and when I was

540
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 2>trying to have my hand on her, had the same

541
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>mom and the room was lit up. Mom looked at

542
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.279
<v Speaker 2>that red light. She didn't wake up. And I find

543
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 2>that very fascinating too. And I believe when I was

544
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:36.839
<v Speaker 2>on board that my eyes were being directed at what

545
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I could look at, because, like I said, it wasn't

546
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>like I looked around like I was looking around the

547
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>room just checking everything out, just like looked at the

548
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>hand hold of mine when up its arms, looked him

549
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.680
<v Speaker 2>in the eye, looked at the hand you know, followed

550
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.519
<v Speaker 2>the arms to Mama, looked into her face, looked at

551
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Daddy's face, and then looked over at the two aliens,

552
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 2>and looked at the grave beside me. And it was

553
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:58.079
<v Speaker 2>like it looked at me and a bang and I

554
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>was back in the hallway. So it felt like I

555
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 2>was being directed at what I could see.

556
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>In years since then, you know, let's say, watching things

557
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>on TV or in movies, have you ever seen depictions

558
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of aliens or creatures that were very close to what

559
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>you saw in that ship that day?

560
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 2>So the gray looked like you're staying or gray, you know.

561
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of movies kind of have as

562
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>like a standard little three or four foot tall gray alien,

563
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>black almond eyes, gracean like elongated head that common the

564
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>other one looking at like. I've went on my computer

565
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>over the years and just like looked up different alien

566
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:56.319
<v Speaker 2>types the mantis being. Seems that they depict some of

567
00:32:56.319 --> 00:33:00.559
<v Speaker 2>them seem fairly close to what I saw. The blue

568
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>one there is, you know, and they have like pictures

569
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 2>of the not real pictures sketches or whatever of the

570
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:11.079
<v Speaker 2>blue one. I have not seen anything that completely. I

571
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.119
<v Speaker 2>would be like, yes, that's exactly what I saw if

572
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I had, if anybody seen the movie Signs that those aliens,

573
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:22.240
<v Speaker 2>that was like the body type of it, but it

574
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>had like a ball round head, like a big round head,

575
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 2>and was blue and had big veins in it and

576
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:35.240
<v Speaker 2>silver eyes. So those two I have not seen really

577
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>any movies that I could recall that depicted those two beings.

578
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.359
<v Speaker 1>That's that's really interesting. Yeas Signs freaked me out when

579
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I was younger. It's not that crazy either, but it's

580
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>just like very suspenseful and that I don't really get

581
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>into that stuff. I'm in a big foot, but it's like, yeah, no,

582
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of draw the line at Signs. I guess. But

583
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:02.359
<v Speaker 1>did you have any things happened to you as you

584
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>as you got older that might be related to seeing

585
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>these aliens?

586
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Not? Not really. I mean I've seen stuff in the sky.

587
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean my wife where we're living at right now

588
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.199
<v Speaker 2>here in Queues Bay. We've lived here at this house

589
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 2>for like sixteen or seventeen years. We've seen pretty good

590
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 2>stuff here, but not like life forms or anything like that,

591
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 2>just like UFOs by definition stuff We couldn't tell you

592
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 2>what they were. Definitely didn't seem like they were the

593
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 2>dreaded drone or you know, or a plane or anything

594
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.760
<v Speaker 2>like that. Like they seem to be actual UFOs and

595
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 2>really that yeah, nothing like some An interesting and interesting

596
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 2>note is that I am OURH negative blood. A lot

597
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:58.119
<v Speaker 2>of people who pass that, are you ourhe negative? I

598
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>am for sure, I just you're ago. Had they drew

599
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 2>blood to just do my urity check up and I

600
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 2>asked them, I say, hey, what's my blood type? So

601
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 2>that I am alage negative, so that might be something

602
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 2>that ties in with that. I have no idea.

603
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 1>What was your reaction when you found that out that

604
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that's your blood type.

605
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I would have to say I was kind of like, uh,

606
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 2>you know that kind of thing, like kind of like

607
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>another piece that fit. I guess if each negative blood

608
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:33.159
<v Speaker 2>is it has truth to it.

609
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>So I think I think there's a lot of truth

610
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to that. I mean a lot of individuals I talked

611
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to where they have weird stuff happened. I mean, that's

612
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the blood type. It's very very interesting these So

613
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the two things that you've shared so far, when you

614
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>got older, did you ever have a conversation with either

615
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>of your parents about either of those things that happened?

616
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 2>So my mom and dad they were like really closed

617
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 2>minded to that kind of stuff. Anything abnormal was like demonistic,

618
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.280
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, or just it was like

619
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 2>dark and didn't want nothing to do with it. But

620
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 2>my mom mostly like she passed away a couple of

621
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 2>years ago, and before she did, me and my sister.

622
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 2>My sister really ended up big Foot and team stuff too.

623
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>The next story comes up she was involved with this,

624
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 2>But we're like, Mom, do you remember that in Juncton

625
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>City when it broke Probably She's like yeah, I'm like, mom,

626
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.199
<v Speaker 2>do you remember how that back into the trader was

627
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.400
<v Speaker 2>off the ground like by three or four feet or

628
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 2>something like that. She's like, yeah, and I said, so

629
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 2>a standard door is like what seven foot or something

630
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>like that, So that means the top of that door

631
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 2>was close to like ten feet off the ground and

632
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 2>that's where it broke. It was up there, I said, Mom,

633
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Bears don't reach up as high as they can, and

634
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 2>there ain't a black bear in California that I that

635
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I know of that could reach up ten feet and

636
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.320
<v Speaker 2>have the power to push in play with like that.

637
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 2>But she was like, yeah, yeah, I can see that.

638
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and Mom, one other thing is

639
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't hear bears go boom boom boom walking around

640
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.320
<v Speaker 2>the house. And she's like yeah, and as I can.

641
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 2>And Chartie found the footprint Mom, and then we heard

642
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.599
<v Speaker 2>the scream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't I just

643
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.280
<v Speaker 2>think it was all ant you know, stuff you can

644
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.480
<v Speaker 2>that had ever answer is basically how she put it.

645
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I would not believe that it is.

646
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting. Yeah, I mean some people do not

647
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.559
<v Speaker 1>want to cross that line. I totally get it. Yeah,

648
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 1>I've experienced that myself and with relatives, and it's just

649
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>that they don't want to cross that line. And I

650
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 1>get it, you know, I crossed the line, like I've

651
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>crossed that line. You've crossed that line too. Yeah, we're

652
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>both tries that line. So no problem there. But I

653
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>can get you know, there are people out there where

654
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the like, you know, I like knowing how life works

655
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and staying on this side where everything is okay and manageable. Right, yeah, yeah,

656
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>but uh, yep, there's more.

657
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Gold was a logger. He worked like, operated a cat

658
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.679
<v Speaker 2>a bulldozer for logging. And they cut this road in

659
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 2>in between Weaverville and Traney Center, right by Trinity Lake.

660
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Cut this road into old growth for you know, like

661
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:40.159
<v Speaker 2>giant ten foot diameter trees and stuff. Worked until night

662
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>on the end up there, it's like red clay mud,

663
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and cut this road in. Never been cut a road

664
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 2>in there before. Cut this road in. Next morning, they

665
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 2>get there at like four thirty the diesel, you know,

666
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:55.920
<v Speaker 2>fuel up the cat and stuff, and he said, here

667
00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.320
<v Speaker 2>were these gianormous footprints coming out of the woods. Walked

668
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 2>around the cat and walked right back down in the wood.

669
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Dad, so what do you think that could be?

670
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 2>He's like, we think it was a hoax or trying

671
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:09.079
<v Speaker 2>to scare us off, trying to shut down the logging.

672
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, really, so they came out of these woods

673
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 2>where there's no road near there, walked around the cat

674
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.119
<v Speaker 2>only and then walked back into the woods. That's how

675
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.760
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna host sh it. Yep, yep.

676
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, that's wild, I mean, and that's that's

677
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>early eighties. You said, right, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, wow, gonness,

678
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that's just that's so so intense. Now, David, you also

679
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:41.199
<v Speaker 1>have a third experience that you would that you're wanting

680
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:42.400
<v Speaker 1>to share it tonight. Correct.

681
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, sir, this happened in right here near Crews Bay.

682
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 2>It's placed a lot of the people I know when

683
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>we were in your chat on a couple of shows ago,

684
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:58.800
<v Speaker 2>people are like, oh, yeah, I know the Elliott So

685
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:05.480
<v Speaker 2>this was in the Elliotts twoenty nineteen, and me and

686
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:10.320
<v Speaker 2>my wife were be hunting Elk and we got up there.

687
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>So Elk season starts at on Saturday morning. We got

688
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>up there at Thursday evening, probably about an hour before

689
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.480
<v Speaker 2>dark or so. And as soon as we get there,

690
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 2>I got my camper off the back of my truck.

691
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 2>We had a cab over camper, took that off my

692
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 2>truck and my sister Cindy, who were just talking about

693
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.840
<v Speaker 2>who's into the big footing. She followed us up there

694
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.079
<v Speaker 2>in her car and she had never been up there before.

695
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 2>She followed us up there in the car and she

696
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 2>was just going to sleep in her car with her

697
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>two little dogs, and me and my wife had our

698
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 2>camper and want our little dog. And so we get there.

699
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I get the camper off at gets me toward ers,

700
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 2>like about twenty minutes left a light. So I was like, hey,

701
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:52.679
<v Speaker 2>do you want you guys want me to run and

702
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:54.320
<v Speaker 2>get my trail camera real quick because I had a

703
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.679
<v Speaker 2>trail camera up there for like two months, you know,

704
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 2>just scouting for elk and stuff. And they're like yeah.

705
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>So I ran up there and got my camp, got

706
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 2>back right at dark. We checked up the pictures and

707
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.239
<v Speaker 2>there was just like elekin deer on it. Nothing weird.

708
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.679
<v Speaker 2>And so we're setting up camp and it's probably about

709
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock and my sister's like, we got company and

710
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like what do you mean. She goes, you didn't

711
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 2>hear that, and I was like no. She's like, there

712
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:19.920
<v Speaker 2>was just a big bang. It sounds like train off,

713
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 2>but a big bang up the hill right there. And

714
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Cindy, there is nobody up there, I promise.

715
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>And so in the area at Stave Forest, we're like

716
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 2>eleven miles up this gravel road to get to the turnoff,

717
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and it's on the nine thousand road. Your map probably

718
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 2>won't show you very much on that, but it was

719
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>on the nine thousand road. We drove down that. I

720
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 2>think it's about three miles down that. So we're like

721
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 2>a total about fourteen miles up into the woods and

722
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:51.760
<v Speaker 2>we're just pulled over on the edge of the gravel camping.

723
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 2>One camp was about five miles away from us, and

724
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.199
<v Speaker 2>that was the only camp that was up there, the

725
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 2>only other camp, And so I was like, Cindy, there's

726
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>nobody up there, I promise. We're in this valley. There's

727
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.800
<v Speaker 2>like a behind our camp. On the one side, it's

728
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>like drops down off the road about ten feet and

729
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 2>there's a big flat goes to a creek and then

730
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 2>it goes up the side of the mountain. On the

731
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:16.320
<v Speaker 2>other side of the road we were a camp just

732
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:18.880
<v Speaker 2>goes straight up the hill and it's just like thick

733
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:23.039
<v Speaker 2>thick dick, like they clear the young trees and just

734
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.880
<v Speaker 2>left them slash slash piles everywhere. So you couldn't already

735
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 2>get through there, and she was like, the noise came

736
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:31.920
<v Speaker 2>from right there, and I was like, yeah, there's nobody

737
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>up there. So it's kind of like red flag right there.

738
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 2>And so long story short, because we were up there

739
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 2>for nine nine days and every day and every night

740
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:48.400
<v Speaker 2>there was what sounded like big knocks, just just knocks,

741
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 2>and then at one point we heard like a knock

742
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:54.800
<v Speaker 2>and then like brush like it was running through the brush.

743
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just writing everything off, like Cindy, because me

744
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:00.639
<v Speaker 2>and my wife were just like we we've hunted up

745
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 2>the fourteen years and we camped up there the one

746
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.280
<v Speaker 2>whole elk season, the whole month in a tent and

747
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 2>never had anything happen. This is all the first time

748
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.519
<v Speaker 2>out of fourteen years of being up there, and so

749
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm writing everything off, writ and everything off, and then,

750
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:19.599
<v Speaker 2>like I'd say, it was probably like the fifth day

751
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.679
<v Speaker 2>we're up there. My sister's in the back seat of

752
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:26.280
<v Speaker 2>my truck, my wife's driving, and I'm in the passenger seat,

753
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:27.719
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to drive to this one spot and

754
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 2>we're going to get out walk this blocked off road

755
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:33.239
<v Speaker 2>and we come around the corner and there's a herd

756
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>elk on my side down the hill, and they're not

757
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.400
<v Speaker 2>spread out like a normal herd would be. They were

758
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>like in a circle, like just bunched up. And there

759
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 2>was a legal bull and that herd, and he was

760
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of walking on the outside of him that like

761
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.440
<v Speaker 2>he was wanting to walk off, that he would turn

762
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 2>around and walk back to the herd. They do that

763
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:55.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of standard, but you know, like they're going to

764
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.519
<v Speaker 2>keep other bulls away from their cows. But the way

765
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.920
<v Speaker 2>they were all hunched up, and I'm like, okay. So

766
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>my sister stayed in the truck and me and my

767
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 2>wife get out and we're getting the wind right and

768
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:07.400
<v Speaker 2>getting to where they can't see us. And we walk

769
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 2>up the road and we cut off down through the

770
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>brush and it's really thick, you know, really thick brush

771
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.840
<v Speaker 2>up there, salow and huckleberries and just thick brush, and

772
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.159
<v Speaker 2>so we're kind of making noise, sneaking down, sneaky, but

773
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 2>we're making noise, so like right in our ears is noise.

774
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 2>And my sister said, as soon as we left the road,

775
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:34.360
<v Speaker 2>there was like three different knocks from three different directions,

776
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.239
<v Speaker 2>like they had those elks surrounded and those knocks came

777
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.360
<v Speaker 2>from each side of those elk as soon as we

778
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 2>left the road, and we didn't hear it. Me and

779
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 2>my wife didn't hear it. And so my sister's kind

780
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>of from the road, she can kind of get glimpses

781
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:50.679
<v Speaker 2>of us going through the brush, kind of working our

782
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.239
<v Speaker 2>way off down that road below that road, sneaking up

783
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.079
<v Speaker 2>those elks, and the elk kind of start moving off,

784
00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:00.559
<v Speaker 2>and she says, right behind us, like twentyears, three thirty yards,

785
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.480
<v Speaker 2>she goes, I'm not kidding, brother, there was something black

786
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:07.960
<v Speaker 2>following you and ded through the brush. And I'm like, well,

787
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.559
<v Speaker 2>it could have been a bull, you know, another elk

788
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.559
<v Speaker 2>with like the black name that they have. And she's like, well,

789
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 2>I heard three knocks right before I saw it. So

790
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm just telling you. And I'm like, okay, okay, I

791
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.760
<v Speaker 2>believe you. And so now we get to where it

792
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:29.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of gets really interesting. So it's probably the sixth

793
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 2>or seventh night it kind of all adds up. I

794
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>have it wrote down somewhere, but I mean it's so

795
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 2>burned in my memory that you know, I pretty much

796
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.559
<v Speaker 2>can tell her word for word. But we uh on

797
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 2>most of the night, on all the nights leading up

798
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.039
<v Speaker 2>to this, I had my twelve gage shotgun that I

799
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.079
<v Speaker 2>would lean against the back of my camper when we

800
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.159
<v Speaker 2>were sitting out there, because we'd sit out there till

801
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.400
<v Speaker 2>like ten or eleven, just you know, talking and we're

802
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.360
<v Speaker 2>camping and that it was great and you should. We

803
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 2>had a lantern burning, and this night I had my

804
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 2>little head my little Walmart special headlamp on and I

805
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 2>had it on the green setting and we only had

806
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.519
<v Speaker 2>a mosquito candle burning for light. We didn't even have

807
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 2>a lantern or nothing. And I left my shotgun inside

808
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the camper. And every time my sister smoked cigarettes, and

809
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.400
<v Speaker 2>so when she would get up to move away from

810
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 2>me and my wife so the smoke went goodbye, she

811
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.480
<v Speaker 2>would step up into that gravel road and smoke. So

812
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.199
<v Speaker 2>when she would do that, I would get up and

813
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:33.119
<v Speaker 2>just turn on my headlamp, you know, and look around

814
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:35.559
<v Speaker 2>just to make sure it's good. So she gets up

815
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.960
<v Speaker 2>to smoke, and it's about ten thirty at night, and

816
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:41.360
<v Speaker 2>me and my wife are kind of getting ready to

817
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:43.559
<v Speaker 2>go faed, but she gets up to smoke, so I

818
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.880
<v Speaker 2>step up with her, and I shine my headlamp directly

819
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.320
<v Speaker 2>across the road because that was kind of the closest trees.

820
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.480
<v Speaker 2>And I looked to the right, and then I turned

821
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 2>to the left, and as I'm walking, I'm just kind

822
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:57.960
<v Speaker 2>of her I'm shining. I'm kind of walk in the

823
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.559
<v Speaker 2>direction I'm shining to my light. So I and start

824
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>walking back to the left and hit the road or

825
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.960
<v Speaker 2>my headlamp hits the road, and I was like, boom,

826
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:12.280
<v Speaker 2>we got we got eyes. And there was the giant,

827
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:18.320
<v Speaker 2>giant size and spread of eyeballs like thirty yards away

828
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 2>from me, right on the edge of the gravel road,

829
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.039
<v Speaker 2>but down now, like a couple of feet off the ground,

830
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:30.559
<v Speaker 2>and they're just burning, big reflective eyeballs. I'm like, we

831
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.280
<v Speaker 2>got eyes like that. My sister's like what. She turns

832
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:36.960
<v Speaker 2>around and walked it to me. She's like, oh, just

833
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.360
<v Speaker 2>like starts hyperventilating, and I can hear the gravel. She's

834
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.599
<v Speaker 2>walking back and she gets to her car, she like

835
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:44.559
<v Speaker 2>rolls up the window on her car so her dog

836
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 2>would jump out. And I'm still just standing there looking

837
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 2>at and this thing is not blinking, it's not turning,

838
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:54.039
<v Speaker 2>it's not doing anything. And I'm not taking my eyes off.

839
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just staring at it. And I can hear her

840
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.440
<v Speaker 2>walk back up to me and look at it again,

841
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.519
<v Speaker 2>and uh like hyperventilates, and she walks back towards your car.

842
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.159
<v Speaker 2>And about that time, when she's walking by my light,

843
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 2>my life, she's like really hard to hear. She's still

844
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 2>sitting in her camp chair next to the camper. She

845
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.159
<v Speaker 2>can see it. She's just looking at it, sitting there,

846
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:18.639
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, bib, I need the flashlight in

847
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 2>the gun right now. And I heard her get up

848
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 2>and she's going into camper and like here dutop, dup doom.

849
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:26.800
<v Speaker 2>She's in there getting the flashlight in my shotgun. I'm

850
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:30.320
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I'm honestly, I'm thinking my bear. That's

851
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.679
<v Speaker 2>just what I'm thinking. It's like a bear. But the

852
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:36.280
<v Speaker 2>eyes were huge and far apart. Bears are not. And

853
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I can hear the gravel. She's walking upside me and mean,

854
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.159
<v Speaker 2>this thing are still logged on. And she comes up

855
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 2>and she bumps my left arm and literally has the

856
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:50.719
<v Speaker 2>shotgun and our flashlightight right there. So I take my

857
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.719
<v Speaker 2>eyes off it, grab it and turn and look and

858
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 2>hit the light and that being was gone, I mean,

859
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:59.000
<v Speaker 2>like not there, and I'm I'm expecting to shoot a

860
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:04.079
<v Speaker 2>bear honestly and or just scare a bear off. And

861
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 2>this thing's gone and it's rainforest on both sides, and

862
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, you know, I'm like where to go? Where

863
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 2>to go? And they're like, I don't know, I don't know,

864
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 2>and it's like where did it go out? And I

865
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:15.039
<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, do you guys want me to just

866
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and fire shot off? Just come of Still

867
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:19.840
<v Speaker 2>my brain's still trying to tell me it was an animal,

868
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, yeah, I do, I do it. So

869
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I just pointed in my shotgun up in the air

870
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and boom, fired it off. So we talked for a

871
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.880
<v Speaker 2>little while and went to bed, and the next morning,

872
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:34.280
<v Speaker 2>instead of going getting up and just going straight hunting,

873
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:36.440
<v Speaker 2>we wanted to wait till daylight and just walked down

874
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>there down the road that thirty yards or so and

875
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 2>look at where it was, you know, where it was

876
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.639
<v Speaker 2>at when it was happening. You could see like scuf

877
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.039
<v Speaker 2>marks on the hard pack gravel where it looked like

878
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>it pushed itself back off that road, and it, like

879
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:52.639
<v Speaker 2>I said, on that side of the road, it dropped

880
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:56.199
<v Speaker 2>down about between six and ten feet, you know, depending

881
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 2>on where you're out on that road down to a

882
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.800
<v Speaker 2>really thick tree act and it goes back to that

883
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.880
<v Speaker 2>creek and then up the hill. Well, somehow that thing

884
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.239
<v Speaker 2>got out of there in an instant. I mean I

885
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:12.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't take my eyes off it and look at my

886
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.360
<v Speaker 2>wife walking up and give it, you know, ten seconds

887
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 2>to run off. She bunt my arm and I literally

888
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 2>just like turned grab it and turned back at the

889
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the road and it was gone. So that was that

890
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 2>raise of like really big red flag, Like, man, I

891
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:31.880
<v Speaker 2>don't the not hearing it run off is what spooked

892
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>me the most. I guess it's like there's no way

893
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:39.039
<v Speaker 2>you could a bear or an elk or whatever it

894
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 2>could have ran off at like full speed. It would

895
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:44.039
<v Speaker 2>have to just like bolted and not made a sound.

896
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:50.239
<v Speaker 2>So now we're gonna just for time's sake, we'll flash

897
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:57.519
<v Speaker 2>flash forward to nine nine, so it's getting dark and

898
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.199
<v Speaker 2>or at the same spot. And every night and every day,

899
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:03.599
<v Speaker 2>like I said, is there's stuff happening that you could

900
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:08.719
<v Speaker 2>associate with animals or bigfoot or whatever. Just stuff happening.

901
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Noises and stumps sound like they're being torn apart, and

902
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:17.519
<v Speaker 2>knocks and just stick pop here and there, which is

903
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:19.840
<v Speaker 2>normal in the woods. But just everything was adding up

904
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:25.599
<v Speaker 2>to this. So night number nine getting dark and sudden

905
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:30.920
<v Speaker 2>we hear this, you know, like a hood al bardal.

906
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:37.000
<v Speaker 2>And so my sister she's getting her her drink on

907
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.199
<v Speaker 2>me and my wife did not drink, still don't, no drugs,

908
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 2>nothing like that. Were totally one hundred percent sober. And

909
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 2>she's having a good time laughing and trying to answer

910
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:51.039
<v Speaker 2>the owl back, and the owl would kind of answer

911
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:52.960
<v Speaker 2>back to her, but he would answer back. It would

912
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.280
<v Speaker 2>answer back every time I did it. And so my

913
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.000
<v Speaker 2>sister's got her phone and she still has the recording

914
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:03.320
<v Speaker 2>of this, has her phone and she's recording that owl

915
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:05.360
<v Speaker 2>going back and forth. Well, like I said, is this

916
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 2>is like at ten ten thirty at night by the

917
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:11.440
<v Speaker 2>time this all comes down, So she'd been recording for

918
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:14.920
<v Speaker 2>like fifteen or twenty minutes at least. At one point,

919
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 2>you could hear me go, hey, Cindy, remember on Jurassic

920
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Park where the one Veloci rapper kept the attention of

921
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 2>the guy while the other one's knuck up bying. She's

922
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.159
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, and I'm like, that's probably what's happening right now,

923
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and we laughed about it. Well, my wife was getting

924
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.599
<v Speaker 2>ready to go to bed, and so our little dog.

925
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:33.119
<v Speaker 2>She wanted the little dog to go potty before I

926
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.800
<v Speaker 2>went to bed. So I walk over with my wife

927
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 2>and the dogs, you know, on the edge of the road,

928
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:41.159
<v Speaker 2>and we're standing there with the flashlight on it kind

929
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>of get the dog go back. The dog would not go.

930
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Dog would not go. And my sister's still over there,

931
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:49.360
<v Speaker 2>calling back and forth like drunk, calling this owl, and

932
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the owl is still going off, and it's across that

933
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 2>the owls across that flat and back by that creek area,

934
00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:59.480
<v Speaker 2>which I would say was a little less than a

935
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:04.320
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards away from where we were camping, and so

936
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:06.639
<v Speaker 2>I say, hey. My wife's like, hey, I think her

937
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.599
<v Speaker 2>calling is making our dog nervous. Can you tell her stop?

938
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.159
<v Speaker 2>And I was like okay. So I was like, hey, Siddy,

939
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>can you stop calling for a second. I think you're

940
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.840
<v Speaker 2>making the dog nervous. So she's like okay, So she

941
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:20.000
<v Speaker 2>stops recording, which is classic, and she's sitting there and

942
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.599
<v Speaker 2>the dog's doing and go. So I picked up the

943
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.599
<v Speaker 2>dog and we start walking over to my sister, and

944
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:28.679
<v Speaker 2>as soon as we all three get together, that owl

945
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.880
<v Speaker 2>hoots again. So we all kind of stop and look

946
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.960
<v Speaker 2>up in the dark, look towards that direction, and this

947
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:41.079
<v Speaker 2>time owl goes and it kind of goes like drop down.

948
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Speaker 2>We call it like an angry owl, like an angry

949
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:48.320
<v Speaker 2>owl sound. And then immediately to the left of it,

950
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:52.239
<v Speaker 2>we're like a kyote was gonna yip. And then just

951
00:53:52.360 --> 00:54:01.039
<v Speaker 2>left of that, just this this roar, this roared Jeremiah

952
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:05.280
<v Speaker 2>was so deep and so loud that you literally could

953
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.800
<v Speaker 2>feel it in your chest, and you could hear the

954
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:15.159
<v Speaker 2>trees ringing like ten freight train horns loud, just brah,

955
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:20.599
<v Speaker 2>and all three of our jaws dropped, and we all

956
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 2>three had kind of watery eyes. And I said what

957
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:28.440
<v Speaker 2>And I did cuss that time, and I don't ever

958
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:33.119
<v Speaker 2>hardy cuss. I was like, what was that? And they're like,

959
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:36.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know. I was like, get stuff,

960
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.000
<v Speaker 2>let's go, let's go, because I mean, it was like

961
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:43.000
<v Speaker 2>it felt like we were about to die if we

962
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't get out there. And so she gathered, you know,

963
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:49.760
<v Speaker 2>my wife gathered like her medicine bag and her purse.

964
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:54.199
<v Speaker 2>My sister she didn't really have anything. So she just

965
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:56.719
<v Speaker 2>jumped in her car and waited for me and Ddie

966
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and we got in our truck and my wife drove

967
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.039
<v Speaker 2>and I had my shotgun out the window with a

968
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:04.360
<v Speaker 2>flashlight because we had to drive right past where that

969
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:10.079
<v Speaker 2>war came from. And I stood jarred as we drove by.

970
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:12.039
<v Speaker 2>And we got out of there, and we went back

971
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:14.719
<v Speaker 2>up a week later to get my camper. It took

972
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:16.360
<v Speaker 2>us a week to go back up there.

973
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, let's say, okay, man, you left. I guess

974
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. I mean I probably would have done

975
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:28.079
<v Speaker 1>a similar thing. I mean, I can't imagine hearing something

976
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:32.679
<v Speaker 1>like that so close to you, freaking I.

977
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Mean like freaky loud. Yeah, And it was one sound

978
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:41.559
<v Speaker 2>was one voice box. The owl was like one voice box.

979
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Then the yip yip came a little bit to the left,

980
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:46.039
<v Speaker 2>like it was a different voice box. Then a little

981
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:48.159
<v Speaker 2>more left was that big war. So it was like

982
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 2>what like three of them on this you know, right

983
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.880
<v Speaker 2>off the side camp and that roar just it wasn't

984
00:55:54.960 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 2>like it was just like like you get the sense

985
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 2>like that's enough, you know, that's what it was. But

986
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:12.719
<v Speaker 2>it was intense, loud and deep, and we had bailout

987
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:16.719
<v Speaker 2>bugle you know, yards from us, and they're huge, you know,

988
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.400
<v Speaker 2>they're one thousand pounds nine hundred pounds with big chest,

989
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.800
<v Speaker 2>and that that wouldn't even have touched the sound that

990
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:23.639
<v Speaker 2>this thing made.

991
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness, because it it sounds like you're very familiar

992
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:34.320
<v Speaker 1>with what the animals of that area should sound like.

993
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:41.079
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I've hunted my whole life and hunted this spot

994
00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:46.280
<v Speaker 2>for now for twenty years. And yeah, I mean I

995
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.480
<v Speaker 2>heard the elt and heard coyotes, and he heard bobcat

996
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:53.800
<v Speaker 2>squall in and fox doing their little calls and stuff,

997
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:55.320
<v Speaker 2>and people were like, well, maybe it was an owl.

998
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, I know owls can be loud, and

999
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:02.440
<v Speaker 2>they can sound bigger than what their chess, you know,

1000
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.239
<v Speaker 2>can produce. But this thing was like freight training horn loud,

1001
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.800
<v Speaker 2>just brah. So. Yeah, when I heard that, that's when

1002
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I knew that we were not dealing with just an animal.

1003
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.360
<v Speaker 2>That's when it was like all rolled through my brain,

1004
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:24.159
<v Speaker 2>like the culmination of all that nine days just went

1005
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:24.519
<v Speaker 2>to that.

1006
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Have you heard anything that even comes close to that sound?

1007
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I had? There was one recording, so we did. Of course,

1008
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:39.679
<v Speaker 2>me and my sister. My wife's kind of not into

1009
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:42.719
<v Speaker 2>it as much and my sister's the most into it,

1010
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.480
<v Speaker 2>but she found something on the internet that was supposed

1011
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:49.400
<v Speaker 2>to be a bigfoot recording, and it was the closest

1012
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I think it might have been in Canada, but it

1013
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.920
<v Speaker 2>was the closest. We all three agreed to what we heard.

1014
00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:02.280
<v Speaker 2>M that's that's no animal that I know of. I mean,

1015
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I've hunted moose and up in Alaska, kill bull, elk,

1016
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.280
<v Speaker 2>killed a bull, moose, killed a lot of bears, a

1017
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:11.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of bear in my life and stuff, and there's

1018
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:15.480
<v Speaker 2>just I just don't know of anything else it could

1019
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:15.800
<v Speaker 2>have been.

1020
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:22.519
<v Speaker 1>And this is, uh, this is southern Elliott State Forest.

1021
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:26.840
<v Speaker 2>This is the yes, the southern side of the Elliot

1022
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:27.480
<v Speaker 2>State Forest.

1023
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been following, Like I use Google masks, but

1024
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:35.079
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I'll use on X because you can actually see

1025
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the Forest Service roads.

1026
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh and uh I got on X.

1027
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's dude, it's great. Not a sponsor, guys, but man,

1028
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:48.119
<v Speaker 1>if they ever want to be beho, they are great.

1029
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:52.360
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing better than you know, because yeah, I mean

1030
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not just for hunters like bigfooters use it like crazy.

1031
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:59.679
<v Speaker 1>You can mark where you've seen, where you've had sightings

1032
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of stuff. You can share it with

1033
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:02.920
<v Speaker 1>your big for friends.

1034
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:07.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, guys, absolutely even hikers and whatever because you

1035
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:10.440
<v Speaker 2>can track yourself and everything. I love it. I'm dropping

1036
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:13.760
<v Speaker 2>tins like you said, I've Yeah, we've had it for

1037
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.079
<v Speaker 2>like probably eight years now or something, and we're not

1038
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:21.039
<v Speaker 2>going without it. We renew it every year. But yeah,

1039
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.079
<v Speaker 2>if you're looking at like you go up the one

1040
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:26.920
<v Speaker 2>thousand road, which is Marlow Creek is actually the name

1041
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.199
<v Speaker 2>of it. Yep, I see, and then went up at

1042
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:32.360
<v Speaker 2>like eleven miles or thirteen miles or something to the

1043
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:34.800
<v Speaker 2>nine thousand road, and then you dropped left down the

1044
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.079
<v Speaker 2>nine thousand and we were down the bottom of that road,

1045
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:40.960
<v Speaker 2>so we looked, and in two thousand and one there

1046
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:44.159
<v Speaker 2>was a bow hunter hunting elk on that same exact

1047
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:47.719
<v Speaker 2>road had a daytime sighting while he was stalking elk.

1048
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1049
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't remember if that was Bfro or if

1050
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:56.679
<v Speaker 2>that was like my big Fizz of Oregon or I

1051
00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:58.719
<v Speaker 2>can't remember where it was, but there was on the

1052
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:01.440
<v Speaker 2>exact same road. In two one a bow hunter saw

1053
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.559
<v Speaker 2>a daytime bigfoot stalking the same ALKI was from like

1054
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:06.599
<v Speaker 2>forty yards away.

1055
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. That that is awesome when you when

1056
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:12.559
<v Speaker 1>you see that kind of thing, you find that report

1057
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:16.119
<v Speaker 1>and that's just like, you know, you know what you experience,

1058
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:19.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's like when you see someone else experience something

1059
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.719
<v Speaker 1>in the same area and you're like, oh, this is

1060
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:25.599
<v Speaker 1>just this, this is it. You know, it's it's like

1061
01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:26.320
<v Speaker 1>yours bunks.

1062
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Your hair stands up, like oh.

1063
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Man, absolutely, yeah, would you ever go back to that area?

1064
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:35.760
<v Speaker 2>So we still hunt there every year, oh okay, but

1065
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:39.199
<v Speaker 2>we do not camp there, and we and the whole

1066
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:43.440
<v Speaker 2>time we've been there since Jeremiah nothing, it's been fine,

1067
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.719
<v Speaker 2>but we're not camped at that same spot, but we

1068
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:50.599
<v Speaker 2>camp all around that. I mean within a couple, you know,

1069
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:54.199
<v Speaker 2>a mile or two of that same spot, and we've

1070
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:58.800
<v Speaker 2>never had anything. You know, we've had stuff or you're

1071
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:02.760
<v Speaker 2>like uh huh, you know, leave us alone, but nothing

1072
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:06.320
<v Speaker 2>like that, you know where it was like days of

1073
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:08.119
<v Speaker 2>interaction basically.

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01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they're they're doing little stuff like are they

1075
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:17.239
<v Speaker 1>like throwing little rocks or wood knocks or things like that,

1076
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:17.880
<v Speaker 1>or one.

1077
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Time, you know, I both just heard a knock and

1078
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, did you hear that? She's like yeah,

1079
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.320
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, chop the truck. She turned off

1080
01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:25.920
<v Speaker 2>the truck and we were driving up this one road

1081
01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:27.760
<v Speaker 2>and you have almost four by it. You're not quite

1082
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:31.000
<v Speaker 2>four buying, but you're going real slow. And I was

1083
01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:35.679
<v Speaker 2>actually looking at like five or six full ELK carcasses,

1084
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:39.559
<v Speaker 2>like the full skeletons. And I'm sitting there looking at

1085
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:43.800
<v Speaker 2>these skeletons with my binoculars and they're literally like thirty

1086
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:46.400
<v Speaker 2>yards off the side of this hill, off the side

1087
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:48.719
<v Speaker 2>of the road, and I get my binoculars and I'm

1088
01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:50.719
<v Speaker 2>trying to look at details of them, like, well, how

1089
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.440
<v Speaker 2>did they die? You know, is there like teeth marking

1090
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:55.000
<v Speaker 2>the bones. I was just kind of checking that out,

1091
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:57.159
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, I was like and I

1092
01:01:57.199 --> 01:01:59.039
<v Speaker 2>looked over at my wife and she looked at me,

1093
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you heard that. She was yeah, and

1094
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:02.920
<v Speaker 2>it was like, kill the truck. Kill the truck. So

1095
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:05.400
<v Speaker 2>she shut the truck off, and we're both kind of

1096
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.440
<v Speaker 2>got our you know, our ear radars up and from

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01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.159
<v Speaker 2>the same exact spot, which was down just below those skeletons,

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01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:18.320
<v Speaker 2>just probably thirty seconds later, maybe just I think, let's go,

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01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:22.000
<v Speaker 2>and we fired the truck up and left. So that

1100
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:25.199
<v Speaker 2>was near right near there. That was probably about seven

1101
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:29.840
<v Speaker 2>miles from there, but in that same general southern part

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01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:30.639
<v Speaker 2>of the Elliott.

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01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 1>So, did you notice if those elk were killed in

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01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:39.840
<v Speaker 1>any weird way, like if they I don't know if

1105
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you can you tell if an animal has a broken neck,

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01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.280
<v Speaker 1>if it's if you could just see the skeleton.

1107
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I if you went up and twist, you know, turned it.

1108
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I suppose you could. I don't know if I just

1109
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:57.840
<v Speaker 2>looking at it right and and you know, I definitely

1110
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:00.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't notice that looking at him through the truck. That's

1111
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.400
<v Speaker 2>what I was looking at, like seeing if I could

1112
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:05.320
<v Speaker 2>see like a crush neck or you know, crushed vertebrae

1113
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.920
<v Speaker 2>or broken ribs. The one weird kind of thing about

1114
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:12.559
<v Speaker 2>that I was looking at is there was one hide,

1115
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:15.960
<v Speaker 2>like the skin part, and it was rolled up kind

1116
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:18.679
<v Speaker 2>of like rolled in a like a tube shape, rolled

1117
01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:21.559
<v Speaker 2>that and I thought, and I'm in my mind, you know,

1118
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, well, could could be poachers, you know, or

1119
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:27.360
<v Speaker 2>they dumping like poached elk off the side. And I

1120
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:29.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, they would have had to throw these

1121
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:32.199
<v Speaker 2>skeletons pretty far off the edge of the road to

1122
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:34.519
<v Speaker 2>get them to where they're all laying right there. Yes,

1123
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:36.519
<v Speaker 2>they could have drug them all there, but why would

1124
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:38.880
<v Speaker 2>you drug drag them to where they could be seen,

1125
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, just kind of like that's what was going

1126
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.519
<v Speaker 2>through my mind while I'm sitting there, and the truck

1127
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.000
<v Speaker 2>was just idle, and then that knock and I'm like

1128
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:50.079
<v Speaker 2>kill it, kill it, and she killed the truck, and

1129
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.800
<v Speaker 2>like thirty seconds later again it was like let's go.

1130
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:53.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm done.

1131
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's so you're saying that you're you're staying in different

1132
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:01.840
<v Speaker 1>places than the original place. How far away from the

1133
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.480
<v Speaker 1>original place are you approximately when you're staying in these

1134
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:06.400
<v Speaker 1>other places now?

1135
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Basically, so you've seen where the nine thousand goes off

1136
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.159
<v Speaker 2>of the one thousand road. We stayed right at that

1137
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:20.280
<v Speaker 2>junction quite a bit. And then we've also stayed on

1138
01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:23.679
<v Speaker 2>a road that's the eighteen hundred road, which the bottom

1139
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.360
<v Speaker 2>of it literally is like a mile from where we

1140
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:29.159
<v Speaker 2>were camping at. We stayed on that road quite a bit.

1141
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:35.239
<v Speaker 2>So in general, just a rough, rough idea probably oh

1142
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:40.199
<v Speaker 2>probably within three miles or four miles or something of

1143
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.360
<v Speaker 2>that spot. Went up there, and like my other sister

1144
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:46.719
<v Speaker 2>came up from southern California, wanted to go really bad.

1145
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:49.800
<v Speaker 2>We went up there and sat there all night, like

1146
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:52.840
<v Speaker 2>had even had a little campfire going, and just sat

1147
01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 2>there and talked all night and not had anything happen,

1148
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:56.039
<v Speaker 2>not a sound.

1149
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh at the original spot, the original spot weird, Okay.

1150
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I was like, maybe it's a thing where they just

1151
01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:07.960
<v Speaker 1>really want you not to ever be in that spot

1152
01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, let's get them out. But that, Yeah,

1153
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make sense. Huh.

1154
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:18.280
<v Speaker 2>You want to know some creepier Jeremiah, Yeah, is that

1155
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:21.440
<v Speaker 2>spot when we first found that spot. It wasn't the

1156
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:23.719
<v Speaker 2>very first day of it when I was like always

1157
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:26.719
<v Speaker 2>scout around my camps and I always go into the

1158
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.679
<v Speaker 2>brush and in the trees and just kind of know

1159
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:32.079
<v Speaker 2>what's around my you know, my surroundings. There is like

1160
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:34.960
<v Speaker 2>where that hit it drops off from the road and

1161
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:38.440
<v Speaker 2>goes down to that flat. There's like seven or eight

1162
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:43.880
<v Speaker 2>or nine dog collars around trees that the trees are

1163
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:48.519
<v Speaker 2>literally growing around these collars like it's a dog burial

1164
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:50.599
<v Speaker 2>ground or so. I don't know what it is.

1165
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:58.519
<v Speaker 1>With anything or not, but the collar was put around

1166
01:05:58.559 --> 01:05:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the tree by something.

1167
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And the names of the dogs. I have pictures

1168
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:05.760
<v Speaker 2>of them, the names of the dogs on the called

1169
01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:08.920
<v Speaker 2>the tag, like the name tags, and they're like leather

1170
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:13.079
<v Speaker 2>and like that webbing, like synthetic webbing. Collars and the

1171
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:18.119
<v Speaker 2>trees are literally starting to grow around them.

1172
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude, that's not cool. I would be like that,

1173
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that would that would freak me out the most, probably

1174
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:32.679
<v Speaker 1>seeing like that's just that's that's weird. That's a new level. Man.

1175
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:34.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, but it's weird.

1176
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we felt the same way, like, well, are

1177
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:41.119
<v Speaker 2>people It's just like somebody's favorite spot that they used

1178
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:44.159
<v Speaker 2>to camp and they're bringing their you know, the memory

1179
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:48.159
<v Speaker 2>of their dog being there or where the dogs killed

1180
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:53.280
<v Speaker 2>there or did something else put them there or I yeah,

1181
01:06:53.400 --> 01:06:56.440
<v Speaker 2>it's creepy, it is creepy.

1182
01:06:56.480 --> 01:07:01.000
<v Speaker 1>It will be really interesting. I just have a feeling

1183
01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:05.559
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be people that have also had things happen

1184
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:09.400
<v Speaker 1>in this same area, and they'll go hopefully be leaving

1185
01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:12.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff in the comments. If not, they can always send

1186
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:17.800
<v Speaker 1>me an email. But uh, yeah, dude, this is this

1187
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:20.840
<v Speaker 1>is some wild stuff. I mean, I remember I remember

1188
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:23.239
<v Speaker 1>hearing a little bit about this from you before, but

1189
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:28.840
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely you were able to share some more interesting details,

1190
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:32.239
<v Speaker 1>uh tonight, And I'm just glad that we're able to

1191
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:32.880
<v Speaker 1>chat again.

1192
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Me too, Me too. It's been way too long, you know,

1193
01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:40.360
<v Speaker 2>coming and you know it's hard to spit it out

1194
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:42.119
<v Speaker 2>here in Miam. But it sure it feels good every

1195
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:44.320
<v Speaker 2>time you're able to just say it and get it

1196
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.280
<v Speaker 2>off your chest. And I know some of it's really

1197
01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:50.760
<v Speaker 2>out there, and there's gonna be people like you know, okay,

1198
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:53.199
<v Speaker 2>and that's fine that you know, we all got our

1199
01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:56.800
<v Speaker 2>own opinions and everything, and I'm not looking for anybody

1200
01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:02.480
<v Speaker 2>to give me any you know, like confirmation. I know

1201
01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:05.199
<v Speaker 2>what I experienced in what I've seen just to be

1202
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:09.039
<v Speaker 2>able to tell you, and you know, I'm really a

1203
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:13.760
<v Speaker 2>big fan of Jeremiah Byron and big Foot Society and everything,

1204
01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:17.479
<v Speaker 2>and it's been an honor just to be here and

1205
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:18.119
<v Speaker 2>talking with you.

1206
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that well, David, I'm just I'm

1207
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:25.319
<v Speaker 1>just glad you could come on the show again. It's

1208
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:27.880
<v Speaker 1>always we've talked a few times. It's always a fun

1209
01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:30.399
<v Speaker 1>time when we talk. And we were saying before the

1210
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:33.079
<v Speaker 1>show started, maybe you know, you might be able to

1211
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:36.319
<v Speaker 1>make it out to Oakridge. If so, i'd you know,

1212
01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:40.239
<v Speaker 1>definitely be awesome to meet you in person there. But

1213
01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:44.720
<v Speaker 1>just yeah, thank you so much for coming on tonight.

1214
01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:48.359
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. And stay in touch, man, for sure,

1215
01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:50.039
<v Speaker 1>I will.

1216
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:52.720
<v Speaker 2>And that's definitely my bucket list man to make it

1217
01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:56.279
<v Speaker 2>there and see that would be great. I'd be that

1218
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:59.720
<v Speaker 2>would be one of the yeah pop bucket lists things

1219
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:02.600
<v Speaker 2>that I could do. So and it's been great talk

1220
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:06.319
<v Speaker 2>with you, Jeremiah, and you take care of Buddy and

1221
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:08.199
<v Speaker 2>we look forward to hearing all your videos.

1222
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, just wanted to take a minute to say

1223
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:14.000
<v Speaker 1>thank you truly for listening to this episode of the

1224
01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot Society podcast. David's story isn't just one of the

1225
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:20.119
<v Speaker 1>most intense encounters we've ever had in this show, it's

1226
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:23.119
<v Speaker 1>one of the most unforgettable. From red orbs in the

1227
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:26.920
<v Speaker 1>night to that roar deep in the Elliott State Forest,

1228
01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:30.079
<v Speaker 1>his experiences remind us how much of the unknown still

1229
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:33.199
<v Speaker 1>lives in the woods and sometimes how close it can get.

1230
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:36.079
<v Speaker 1>If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing to us

1231
01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:38.960
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1232
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:42.640
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1233
01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:46.079
<v Speaker 1>campfire tale. If you're listening on Spotify or Apple, follow

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1235
01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:51.920
<v Speaker 1>these powerful stories, and if you or someone you know

1236
01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:55.479
<v Speaker 1>has had a bigfoot or strange forest encounter, especially in

1237
01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.760
<v Speaker 1>northern California or the Elliott State Forest. Please send me

1238
01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:01.520
<v Speaker 1>an email at Bigfoot Societ gmail dot com. I'd love

1239
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:04.880
<v Speaker 1>to hear your story and don't forget. Sasquatch Summerfest is

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<v Speaker 1>coming up July eleventh through the twelfth at Greenwaters Park

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<v Speaker 1>in Oakridge, Oregon. Bigfoot Society listeners can get two day

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<v Speaker 1>for the price of one day passes with discount code

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<v Speaker 1>b FS at checkout Huge thanks to Priscilla and the

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<v Speaker 1>team for making that happen. You can get your tickets

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<v Speaker 1>at www dot Sasquatch Summerfest dot com. Thanks again for

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<v Speaker 1>being part of the Bigfoot Society. Until next time, keep

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes open, trust your gut, and if something tells

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<v Speaker 1>you to drink pickle juice, maybe listen to see you

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods.