Speaker 1: You're listening in Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron
Speaker 1: Tonight's story doesn't start with a footprint or a whoop
Speaker 1: in the woods. It starts with a boy lying in
Speaker 1: bed playing with kittens when something heavy begins circling their trailer.
Speaker 1: That boy was David, and what followed was a lifetime
Speaker 1: of encounters, from screams in the Trinity ELPs, to glowing
Speaker 1: red orbs that drifted through walls, to the moment he
Speaker 1: opened his eyes and realized he wasn't alone, a family
Speaker 1: of sasquatched, three alien beings, and a voice in his
Speaker 1: head that told him to drink pickle juice. This isn't
Speaker 1: a sci fi story. This is David's life and it
Speaker 1: all came rushing back in the Elliott State Forest in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen nine, nights of eerie Knox shadowy movement, and
Speaker 1: finally a roar so loud it shook their souls. This
Speaker 1: is the story of David and the night the forest
Speaker 1: roared back. So stay with us. I pick the Society.
Speaker 1: We have the privilege of talking to David today. David's
Speaker 1: an individual that you've heard on the show. During the
Speaker 1: call in show heard him before and we had a
Speaker 1: good chat then. But David's back to share some some
Speaker 1: other very interesting encounters. He is from out there in
Speaker 1: the great state of Oregon, and welcome to the show again, David.
Speaker 1: How's it going man, Thank.
Speaker 2: You, Jeremiah. It's going really good. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm this is going to be a fun one.
Speaker 1: We were talking before the show started recording, and you know,
Speaker 1: we'll be going some some areas that the show normally
Speaker 1: doesn't go, but it does have to do with Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm going to say, let's let's pass
Speaker 1: things right over to you, David, bring us back to
Speaker 1: the first instance that you're wanting to share with the
Speaker 1: listeners tonight, please, okay.
Speaker 2: Sure. So it all started and I remember the year
Speaker 2: because when we moved to this little place and I'll
Speaker 2: tell you the place, Jeremiah. You can look it up
Speaker 2: if you want to. It was a place called Junction City, California.
Speaker 2: It was about seven miles west of Weaverville, California. And
Speaker 2: there's before you get to Junk City, there's a place
Speaker 2: on the right called Slattery Pond and it's like just
Speaker 2: the sal Pond. And we lived up the little dirt
Speaker 2: road behind that pond, and it was the only house
Speaker 2: back there, and it was it had turned nineteen seventy
Speaker 2: nine to nineteen eighty because I had messed up on
Speaker 2: my school work paper and had to erase the seventy
Speaker 2: nine and put eighty. So I remember that. That's the
Speaker 2: only reason why I remember the actual year that this happened.
Speaker 2: And so we'd lived there probably a couple months or something,
Speaker 2: and it was just a place that we stayed in
Speaker 2: between us buying this property. So we stayed there just
Speaker 2: kind of momentarily. And so when we moved in there,
Speaker 2: the people that rented at the place to us told
Speaker 2: us about this big and I'm doing like a quote
Speaker 2: with my finger bear that would come around that previous
Speaker 2: renters had talked about that scared the previous renters. And
Speaker 2: so it was a double white mobile home, and the
Speaker 2: back half of the trailer was kind of off off
Speaker 2: the ground because it's the ground sloped off right there,
Speaker 2: so it was up on like the cinder blocks, and
Speaker 2: I'd say the bottom of the trader was like three
Speaker 2: feet off the ground or something like that. But me
Speaker 2: and my brother's room was in the very back that
Speaker 2: that end of the trader and there was the hallway,
Speaker 2: and then there was a pantry across from our bedroom door,
Speaker 2: and it used to be an old fruit pantry. Well
Speaker 2: that there was no inside door, so if you're walking
Speaker 2: the hallway, you could just walk right in. There was
Speaker 2: no door there, but the outside door there used to
Speaker 2: be an outside entrance. That door was gone, and there
Speaker 2: was like a piece of plywood that they had nailed
Speaker 2: I think I only could be screwed. I think it
Speaker 2: was just nailed on there. And so we moved into
Speaker 2: this place and we've been living there, I don't know,
Speaker 2: probably a couple of weeks or something. And at night,
Speaker 2: you could we started hearing like these screams coming off
Speaker 2: and there's no owls as it's basically would start to
Speaker 2: go into like the Trinity Outs wilderness kind of areas,
Speaker 2: just all wilderness area behind that place, and we would
Speaker 2: just hear these screams, like a woman being murdered or worse,
Speaker 2: you know, and our whole family, there were six of
Speaker 2: us kids would just sit there with the window open,
Speaker 2: listening to this screaming coming off the side of the mountain,
Speaker 2: and my dad and my mom would be like, Chuck,
Speaker 2: what is that what is that? And my dad would
Speaker 2: be like, I don't know. I think it's maybe a
Speaker 2: fox or a fox cab. We all, I mean, it
Speaker 2: was so loud, it was it was scary, and I
Speaker 2: would have been if it was if that happened at
Speaker 2: nineteen eight let's say, just from nineteen eighty, I would
Speaker 2: have been nine years old at the time, and we
Speaker 2: just all of his kids knew that it didn't sound right.
Speaker 2: So then later on, my brother Charty, he was the
Speaker 2: oldest of us kids, he must have been about fifteen ish,
Speaker 2: comes running into the house one day and he's like, mom, Mom, Mom,
Speaker 2: I found a huge footprint. She's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: And he was like, mom, I found a huge footprint.
Speaker 2: It looked like ours, but it's huge. And he was
Speaker 2: doing like his hands and it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: eighteen inches or twenty inches or something huge footprint and
Speaker 2: my mom was like, are you sure it's not a bear?
Speaker 2: Were stepped into his own track and all that, you know,
Speaker 2: the standard question, which is good to ask. He's like, mom, Mom,
Speaker 2: it was there was multiple tracks and it was just
Speaker 2: one huge footprint, not two tracks in one. And so
Speaker 2: all this kind of adds up to this last bit.
Speaker 2: So me and my oldest brother sucked in that back
Speaker 2: bedroom on the same bed, and I slept up against
Speaker 2: the wall underneath the window. And it had to be
Speaker 2: sometime during the middle and I don't know what, I'm
Speaker 2: just going to guess it was around midnight or something.
Speaker 2: And I'm laying there on my back and i have
Speaker 2: a little kitten on my chest and I'm playing with
Speaker 2: the little kitten, and there was a few kittens up
Speaker 2: on the window sill, and it wasn't like a full moon,
Speaker 2: and you could see the light coming through the window,
Speaker 2: and so the kittens were like really highlighted in the window.
Speaker 2: And we're all just sitting there doing our thing. And
Speaker 2: then I noticed the kittens up in the window just
Speaker 2: stopped what they were doing, and they were looking out
Speaker 2: the window, all hunched up like when they're playing and
Speaker 2: they hunch up and all fluffed up, and both of
Speaker 2: them were doing the same thing, looking out the window,
Speaker 2: and their heads were moving like they were watching something.
Speaker 2: And then the kitten and I was holding did the
Speaker 2: same thing, just boom, just stop and fluffed up and
Speaker 2: was looking out towards the wall. Pretty soon I just
Speaker 2: hear boom boom, boom boom, and it's getting louder and louder,
Speaker 2: and it goes right right to the right of my window,
Speaker 2: walks right around the end of the trailer, and I
Speaker 2: can hear it walking up the other side, just boom boom,
Speaker 2: and you could feel these footsteps. And I'm trying to
Speaker 2: wake up my brother and he's not waking up. I'm
Speaker 2: not talking. I'm just trying to use my hand to
Speaker 2: kind of shake him. And it's quiet for just like
Speaker 2: one second, and then I hear it like like this
Speaker 2: breaking sound, and you could literally kind of feel the
Speaker 2: mobile home like shimmy, like if you get a big win.
Speaker 2: It's not like shaking, but you could just feel as
Speaker 2: little like hear creak and just feel that movement a
Speaker 2: little bit. And so that scared me. So I slip
Speaker 2: out of bed as quiet as I can, and I
Speaker 2: walk over to the door and I'm pushing it on
Speaker 2: the door a little bit and turning the handle as
Speaker 2: quiet as I can because I wanted to sneak out there.
Speaker 2: I had to run. I had to go past where
Speaker 2: that happened. I knew it was a plywood at that pantry,
Speaker 2: that food pantry and so the door goes click, just
Speaker 2: a tiny little click, and I just said boom boom
Speaker 2: boom boom boom boom boom boom, just running off. So
Speaker 2: I took my chance, you know, my moment, and just
Speaker 2: threw the door open and just h teled into my
Speaker 2: mom and dad's room. And my mom let me slip in,
Speaker 2: and she was like, oh, it's probably no cats fighting
Speaker 2: and this and that, and I was like, no, mom, Mom,
Speaker 2: there's a monster offside that broke the house. It broke
Speaker 2: the house. And she was like, no, no, no, you're
Speaker 2: a mistake, and just go to sleep and we'll look
Speaker 2: at it in the morning. So the next morning or
Speaker 2: the next day, it wasn't the next morning. The next day,
Speaker 2: my mom and my older brother come and picked us
Speaker 2: up from school in Johnson City, and my brother's like, hey, David,
Speaker 2: do you remember that what you here last night? I'm
Speaker 2: like yeah, and then he goes, just wait till we
Speaker 2: get home. I was like, okay. So we get home
Speaker 2: and my dad, who worked at the mill, and we
Speaker 2: were revill. He just got home and he was standing
Speaker 2: out there on the side of the trader with that
Speaker 2: plywood was nailed up and he's just standing there looking
Speaker 2: and all of us go walking up there and at
Speaker 2: the very top of that door, like I said, it
Speaker 2: was like a regular sized door, but the door was gone.
Speaker 2: It was just plywood. Was the plywood was pushed in
Speaker 2: at the very top and you could see like I'm
Speaker 2: going to say, claw marks, but you usedee gouges into
Speaker 2: in the plywood? What pushed it in at the very
Speaker 2: very top And my dad just standing there looking at it,
Speaker 2: and we're like cranking our heads up looking at this
Speaker 2: thing because that's the end of the trader where the
Speaker 2: ground sloped off, and it's still you know, like up
Speaker 2: at the top of that door. And my mom's like, chuck,
Speaker 2: what could have done that? And he's got that look.
Speaker 2: All this kids could see it. My mom could see
Speaker 2: it too, and he's got that look just looking at that,
Speaker 2: and he goes, I guess a big bear. And my
Speaker 2: mom's like, what kind of bear could do that? And
Speaker 2: he was like, I guess a big one. And so
Speaker 2: that was that was basically the end of anything that
Speaker 2: happened there. We ended up moving up to the property
Speaker 2: that we bought up and now the property we bought
Speaker 2: was up near Trinity Center, California, which is north from
Speaker 2: Weaverville on Highway three, and we lived out in the
Speaker 2: boundocks up on that road. And so at this date
Speaker 2: I can't tell you, I don't know. I would have
Speaker 2: a feeling that we lived up there for you know,
Speaker 2: like two to two to four years or something. So
Speaker 2: I might have been in that twelve thirteen year old
Speaker 2: range somewhere in there. And I just I, me and
Speaker 2: my younger brother now slept in the living room this
Speaker 2: single wide mobile home. We slept in the living room,
Speaker 2: My two sisters slept in the first bedroom in the hallway,
Speaker 2: and my mom dad slept in the back bedroom, and
Speaker 2: my older brother and my oldest so he had moved out,
Speaker 2: so it was just me and my younger brother and
Speaker 2: then my two sisters. So I had woke up in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night on that I stopt sleeping
Speaker 2: in the living room on the hide of bed couch
Speaker 2: and feeling like I had been choked. Like I woke
Speaker 2: up feeling like I was choking, and it scared me
Speaker 2: bad enough when I went up the hallway to my
Speaker 2: mom dad's bedroom, and my dad slept on the right
Speaker 2: hand side of the bed. My mom was sleep on
Speaker 2: the left, and I walked over to the mom and
Speaker 2: I was like, Mom, I can't breathe, and she's like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean. I was like, I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm being choked. And I have no idea how this
Speaker 2: ties into this story, but it's how it started, so
Speaker 2: I don't know if it does tie in or not.
Speaker 2: But so she was like, well, can you can you
Speaker 2: take in air? Can you breathe? And I was like yeah,
Speaker 2: but I feel like I was being choked. And she's like, well,
Speaker 2: just just climb in bed and you know, you'll be
Speaker 2: all right. So I remember, you know, just laying there
Speaker 2: on my back, and I had my eyes closed, and
Speaker 2: I was kind of still had my hand on my
Speaker 2: chest kind of by my throat, just kind of still,
Speaker 2: you know, glad that I was getting air. It was
Speaker 2: really strange, like my throat felt like it was closed up,
Speaker 2: I guess. And I was laying there with my eyes
Speaker 2: closed and trying to make myself go back to sleep.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what time this was, it was
Speaker 2: in the middle night sometime, And while I'm laying there
Speaker 2: with my eyes closed, I started seeing like flickering of
Speaker 2: light in my eyelids, kind of like if you're sitting
Speaker 2: around a campfire at night and you close your eyes,
Speaker 2: how you can see the flicker of the fire through
Speaker 2: your eyelids. And before I opened my eyes, I asked myself,
Speaker 2: you know, am I really seeing this? And so I
Speaker 2: concentrated and I could literally see like the light through
Speaker 2: my eyelids, and I could tell it was moving. So
Speaker 2: when I opened my eyes, when I opened my eyes,
Speaker 2: the room was already kind of starting to glow this
Speaker 2: red color, like like a red glow. And I'm sorry
Speaker 2: if this kind of goes over the deep end, Jeremiah,
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's a strange story and it's hard
Speaker 2: to even spit it out, but I'm just going to
Speaker 2: tell it, like what happened. And so I'm laying there,
Speaker 2: and when I opened my eyes, there's this red glow
Speaker 2: coming through the walls of my mom and dad's bedroom,
Speaker 2: like it was coming from the hallway. And when I
Speaker 2: came in there, I had shut the door and you know,
Speaker 2: to the room. And so I'm laying there. My mom's
Speaker 2: in the middle, my Dad's on the other side of
Speaker 2: the bed. I'm on the left side of the bed
Speaker 2: on my back, and I'm watching this red glow kind
Speaker 2: of sway back and forth, left and right, like it
Speaker 2: was going left, moving left and right, but getting brighter
Speaker 2: and brighter, and just right at the top of my
Speaker 2: mom and dad door, right where the wall met the ceiling,
Speaker 2: this red ball, red orb a little smaller than a basketball.
Speaker 2: It was probably like a foot in diameter or something
Speaker 2: like that. A red ball just you just comes right
Speaker 2: through the wall right there, right at the ceiling in
Speaker 2: the wall junction, and it's like sticking halfway in my
Speaker 2: mom and Dad's room. There's no sound, there's no smell.
Speaker 2: There's just this red ball and it looks like I
Speaker 2: always describe it as a red light and said it
Speaker 2: looked like lava, like molten lava. How it kind of
Speaker 2: turns and older, you know, being older, I was like, well,
Speaker 2: it was more like plasma. That looked like plasma, just
Speaker 2: turning and around the outside of that red ball was
Speaker 2: for like three feet around, three or four feet around.
Speaker 2: It was like this purple or a purple glow. And
Speaker 2: I couldn't see through the ball, but you could see
Speaker 2: through that purple like I could still see the paneling
Speaker 2: of the mobile home walls, the lines and the paneling.
Speaker 2: I could see that through that purple and from the
Speaker 2: red into the purple. It was throwing these white, big sparkles,
Speaker 2: like the sparklers for Fourth of July, just big sparkles,
Speaker 2: and when they got to the edge of that purple,
Speaker 2: they would go out. They'd never left that purple. They
Speaker 2: just stayed within that. And so I sit up, and
Speaker 2: it's beautiful. It's not scary at this point. I'm not
Speaker 2: freaking out. I'm just looking at this beautiful look like
Speaker 2: a big firework. And so I sit up and I
Speaker 2: put my left hand and my mom's hip. She's facing
Speaker 2: away from me, and like I said, the rooms all
Speaker 2: lit up red. I mean I could see around the room.
Speaker 2: I could see my mom and dad laying there. And
Speaker 2: I put my hand on my mom's hip and on
Speaker 2: my point at the light with my right hand, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, mom, look at that red light. And she
Speaker 2: doesn't move. I'm like, mom, look at that red light.
Speaker 2: And she literally started to lift her head up and
Speaker 2: laid it directly just right back down. And I'm looking
Speaker 2: at her side profile so I can see her mouth,
Speaker 2: and her mouth didn't move. But I heard Son in
Speaker 2: your dream and go back to sleep. And I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not mom, it's right there. And I turned back
Speaker 2: and looked at it, and I'm still pointing at it.
Speaker 2: My left hand is still on my mom's hip, and
Speaker 2: it's like as soon as I said no, I'm not mom,
Speaker 2: it's right there, I turn and it's like two three,
Speaker 2: And then now suddenly this is where gets really weird.
Speaker 2: So forgive me. But now I'm not in my mom
Speaker 2: and dad's room anymore, and I'm still pointing with my
Speaker 2: left hand is still in the same position and that
Speaker 2: it was. But now I'm standing there looking through like
Speaker 2: a clear wall, like a glass wall, looking out into stars,
Speaker 2: and kind of like waking up from the surgery or
Speaker 2: like passing out, how you kind of wake up and
Speaker 2: it takes a minute for your eyes to focus and
Speaker 2: for your mind to kind of get right for a second.
Speaker 2: And I just remember looking from out looking out that
Speaker 2: glass wall or a clear wall, then just looking down
Speaker 2: at my arm, my left arm, and I can see
Speaker 2: my pajamas. I can tell you exactly what pajamas I
Speaker 2: had on, long sleeve pajamas and holding my hand, my
Speaker 2: left hand now is this red haired, thick, black skinned
Speaker 2: wrinkles with black fingernails that kind of went to a point,
Speaker 2: like thick fingernails that kind of went to a point
Speaker 2: hand and my eyes just go right up that red arm.
Speaker 2: And here's this, My dad's sized bigfoot, just looking down
Speaker 2: at me. We're standing shoulders shoulder. He's on my left,
Speaker 2: I say he. I don't know if it was he
Speaker 2: or not. It was on my left and it's looking
Speaker 2: straight down at me and his eyes were like huge,
Speaker 2: like whites in his eyes, like surprised look looking at me.
Speaker 2: And he's it's holding mom's hand, and mom's holding dad's hand,
Speaker 2: and we're all me and the little one, and I
Speaker 2: say little. It is like the size of my dad
Speaker 2: had little compared to the other two. Mama was probably
Speaker 2: eight foot, looked just like the Patty bigfoot, but red
Speaker 2: haired Dad must have been ten feet tall or something.
Speaker 2: He was huge. And they're standing candy corner, but we're
Speaker 2: all four holding hands, and they're looking down at me
Speaker 2: with the same look in their eyes. And then I
Speaker 2: just my eyes go bo boom boom, look at those three.
Speaker 2: And then I looked to the right a little more,
Speaker 2: and standing with their back against the wall was two
Speaker 2: alien beams. One was like a prying mantis looking thing,
Speaker 2: had black oval shaped eyes, that brown side of its head,
Speaker 2: big jaws, like cheeks that weren't skin, they were bone,
Speaker 2: and they were kind of kind of like a dark
Speaker 2: brown but with black streaks, kind of like charcoal bone.
Speaker 2: That's the best I could describe it, kind of like
Speaker 2: if you char cold bone a little bit in a
Speaker 2: fire or something that look. And they had their back.
Speaker 2: It had its back to a wall, and the wall
Speaker 2: was kind of a cream color. I couldn't tell you
Speaker 2: what the ceiling and the floor looked like. I could
Speaker 2: tell you what else was in the room. I could
Speaker 2: just tell you know. It was like my eyes were directed.
Speaker 2: I looked at the three bigfoot and looked over to
Speaker 2: the right. There's this mantis looking thing standing there with us,
Speaker 2: back to a wall, and beside it was this blue,
Speaker 2: tall alien being with like a big, huge, perfectly round head,
Speaker 2: and its eyes were more almond shape, kind of like
Speaker 2: a gray alien, but were kind of silvery, like like
Speaker 2: the old coppers glasses. How they have that silver mirror
Speaker 2: to them that look, and I could see them the skin,
Speaker 2: you could see like the veins through the skin throughout
Speaker 2: the whole upper body and they're not looking at me.
Speaker 2: They're looking kind of to my right beside me, those
Speaker 2: two who were standing side by side, and they're tall.
Speaker 2: There's tall is the Bigfoot. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: were as tall as Mom or Dad, but they were
Speaker 2: both like in that eight nine foot tall, I would say,
Speaker 2: if I had to guess. And so my eyes go
Speaker 2: from them and I looked to the right. Right beside me,
Speaker 2: literally standing probably a couple of feet from me, was
Speaker 2: a little gray alien being looking up at them, at
Speaker 2: the two aliens, the two tall aliens, and it's head's
Speaker 2: bobbing during kind of like a bobblehead, and it's not
Speaker 2: making no sound of it. You could tell. I could
Speaker 2: tell that it was communicating with those two. And then
Speaker 2: as soon as I look at that and see the
Speaker 2: head bobbing, it turns and looks at me. And we're
Speaker 2: pretty close to the same eyes. I was probably a
Speaker 2: little taller, but I just remember it turned and looked
Speaker 2: at me. And then the next thing I know is
Speaker 2: I'm walking coming kind of coming out of that same
Speaker 2: waking up from a surgery or passing out feeling starting
Speaker 2: to come to, and I'm walking up the hallway like
Speaker 2: from my mom and dad's room while walking up the
Speaker 2: hallway back towards the living room, and I hear in
Speaker 2: my head, I hear drink pickle juice. Drink pickle juice.
Speaker 2: So I just remember going to the kitchen, opened the
Speaker 2: fridge and popped open the jar pickles and just chugged
Speaker 2: pickle juice and crawled back in bed with my brother,
Speaker 2: and that was that was the end of that. That
Speaker 2: was the last thing I remember. For years and years,
Speaker 2: the family only remembered me talking about the red light.
Speaker 2: And it was probably ten or fifteen years ago. I
Speaker 2: just happened to be watching I wasn't watching. I was
Speaker 2: flipping through the channels and Ancient Aliens was on, and
Speaker 2: I kind of, I wonder what these crackpots are about
Speaker 2: a little bit, so I was like, I'm gonna check
Speaker 2: it out and see what they're talking about. The first
Speaker 2: thing they showed was that same red orb going through
Speaker 2: like military bases and going in and out of like
Speaker 2: missile silos and stuff like that, going through walls and
Speaker 2: all that. And I just literally jumped up and ran
Speaker 2: into the bedroom and got my wife. I'm like, babe, baby,
Speaker 2: you gotta come see. She ran in there and I
Speaker 2: was like, that's what I saw right there, and it
Speaker 2: was literally had peers. It wasn't like I was, but
Speaker 2: I literally had like these tears in my eyes from
Speaker 2: emotions because I didn't think about anybody else seeing that
Speaker 2: I already ever talked about it ever, and then to
Speaker 2: see it just it really it was profound and I
Speaker 2: couldn't believe that I just was looking at what I saw.
Speaker 2: And so that was pretty much the end of that
Speaker 2: junction of the Junction City and then at Trinity Center Experiences.
Speaker 2: So oh, I haven't completely lost so far.
Speaker 1: But so I I want to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about the the abduction just because I mean, it's so
Speaker 1: unique to this show. That's it's something that that really
Speaker 1: does not come up. So man, it's so the way
Speaker 1: that the Bigfoot looked to you in there. Were they
Speaker 1: well I guess you said one of them actually did
Speaker 1: look like Patty, didn't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all look yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so so interesting. And I mean you're you're
Speaker 1: what probably around eleven to twelve at this time.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking it was, yeah, between between ten and fourteen,
Speaker 2: and I would say twelve ish is white in the ballpark.
Speaker 2: I honestly couldn't tell you exactly what year.
Speaker 1: It was, Okay, and I mean not on any substances
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Right, what with that?
Speaker 1: No, no substance use at all at that, you know, No, no, nope,
Speaker 1: that's that's so so interesting. Why do you think that
Speaker 1: the pickle juice was all all about that? That's one
Speaker 1: of the most interesting parts.
Speaker 2: You know, the people like talked about that, you know
Speaker 2: too when I told I told my story on a
Speaker 2: couple other places too, But you know, me and you
Speaker 2: were trying to hook this up. It's been a while
Speaker 2: since we were trying to get together to tell it.
Speaker 2: That people saying that that's a common theme for like
Speaker 2: the dehydration, and another one was saying it could help
Speaker 2: for like shock. Somebody was saying, for like shock, I
Speaker 2: have no idea. And you know how you hear yourself
Speaker 2: when you're like have a thought in your head, you
Speaker 2: kind of hear your own little voice in your head,
Speaker 2: not like schizophrenia, but your own monologue in your head.
Speaker 2: It was my voice saying, drink pickle juice, drink pickle juice.
Speaker 2: And I I have no idea why it said that,
Speaker 2: you know, or why that would be important or not.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do feel like you that
Speaker 2: there's got to be something to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's got to be some scientific I like the
Speaker 1: ideas that those other people came up with though dehydration,
Speaker 1: et cetera.
Speaker 2: Man, how I got to tell you, Yeah, it felt
Speaker 2: like the Bigfoot were abducted like me. That's what it
Speaker 2: felt like. And when I told no, when I get
Speaker 2: into detail, I know, we're a kind of amount of
Speaker 2: time thing, but I tell people like, oh, man, I
Speaker 2: bet you were scared or freak out or this and that,
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what, there was like
Speaker 2: zero emotion nothing. It was how I said, It would
Speaker 2: be like if you were sitting in a big room
Speaker 2: and you had a bunch of people in there, a
Speaker 2: bunch of people you knew something you didn't and you're
Speaker 2: just sitting off the side and you're just looking around,
Speaker 2: like looking around, just seeing what was going on. That's
Speaker 2: what it felt like. There was no fear. I don't
Speaker 2: know if my eyes were big, like the Bigfoot eyes
Speaker 2: were big, but they had like that total surprise look
Speaker 2: on their face. And I have a feeling that they
Speaker 2: were in the same predicament I was. And the strangest
Speaker 2: thing about this, jere mind. We didn't have really TV.
Speaker 2: We had like your We didn't have like, you know,
Speaker 2: satellite or anything like that, just you're basic like ABC
Speaker 2: and PBS channel back in the day. So I didn't
Speaker 2: get to watch anything that could have put that in
Speaker 2: my mind. But we had these neighbors. The closest neighbor
Speaker 2: that lived to us lived down the hill from us,
Speaker 2: and there was a man and the daughter and was
Speaker 2: married to this man who was like thirty four or
Speaker 2: something at the time, but his mental status was like
Speaker 2: the same age as me and my little brother. We
Speaker 2: would play like kids out there, and that family used
Speaker 2: to tell us that they fed a family of bigfoot
Speaker 2: red hair bigfoot, a mom and dad and a young
Speaker 2: one off their deck by hand, and we used to
Speaker 2: kind of knock to their face that like kind of
Speaker 2: laugh at them, like, man, these people are crazy, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, They are weird. And then that happened,
Speaker 2: and you know, late on life, after I kind of
Speaker 2: start putting two and two together, It's like, well, it
Speaker 2: makes sense and it kind of fits. And I think
Speaker 2: that those that family was abducted, not the people, but
Speaker 2: the family of Bigfoot. I believe was abducted.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I was, oh, yeah, sure, I
Speaker 1: mean that's why. And they're feeding them by hand. That
Speaker 1: is wild. I mean I've heard of an individual leaving
Speaker 1: food on the back porch and then they were eating
Speaker 1: off the back porch by hand. That is that's a
Speaker 1: whole different ballgame. And this all happened in Trinity Center.
Speaker 2: You're saying, yes, there's a little place. It's actually about
Speaker 2: six miles before Trinity Center. There's a little community. It's
Speaker 2: kind of mostly summer homes and there it's just a
Speaker 2: road that kind of winds up. It's called Covington Mill
Speaker 2: and that is the actual name of the place where
Speaker 2: this all happened. But yes, by Trinity Center, and it's
Speaker 2: wooly and if you look at it from like the
Speaker 2: the Patterson Gimmon Fight as the crow flies, I think
Speaker 2: it's like fifty miles or something from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's in that area. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got Mount Shasta northeast of it, and Dunsmore can
Speaker 1: get some interesting stuff comes out. I mean, you're in
Speaker 1: that whole area.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: It's it's wild. Have you looked to see if there's
Speaker 1: been other abductions in that area over the years.
Speaker 2: I actually have not. I did at one point look
Speaker 2: for like just bigfoot reports and stuff like that, and
Speaker 2: I don't recall seeing any. I know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of weird stuff to go on around Mount Shasta, a
Speaker 2: lot of war about and stuff. And then you got
Speaker 2: hoop Are on the other side of the mountains right there,
Speaker 2: and Willow Creek and stuff like that. It's all right
Speaker 2: there in the same general area. So a lot of history,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Is this abduction something that you find laying over in
Speaker 1: your mind a lot or.
Speaker 2: I you know, since I've been an adult, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm waging an adult now. But I did not ever
Speaker 2: talk about it growing up, the duction part. I never
Speaker 2: told none of my family about it ever, kind of
Speaker 2: just buried it down and always talked about the red
Speaker 2: light that came into mom Dad's room. And they remember
Speaker 2: me telling them about, you know, trying to wake mom up.
Speaker 2: And my mom doesn't remember, my dad doesn't remember. And
Speaker 2: my mom was one of those ones like when I
Speaker 2: first went in there, when I felt like I was choking,
Speaker 2: she wakes up when one of his kids went into
Speaker 2: the room. She was awake immediately and when I was
Speaker 2: trying to have my hand on her, had the same
Speaker 2: mom and the room was lit up. Mom looked at
Speaker 2: that red light. She didn't wake up. And I find
Speaker 2: that very fascinating too. And I believe when I was
Speaker 2: on board that my eyes were being directed at what
Speaker 2: I could look at, because, like I said, it wasn't
Speaker 2: like I looked around like I was looking around the
Speaker 2: room just checking everything out, just like looked at the
Speaker 2: hand hold of mine when up its arms, looked him
Speaker 2: in the eye, looked at the hand you know, followed
Speaker 2: the arms to Mama, looked into her face, looked at
Speaker 2: Daddy's face, and then looked over at the two aliens,
Speaker 2: and looked at the grave beside me. And it was
Speaker 2: like it looked at me and a bang and I
Speaker 2: was back in the hallway. So it felt like I
Speaker 2: was being directed at what I could see.
Speaker 1: In years since then, you know, let's say, watching things
Speaker 1: on TV or in movies, have you ever seen depictions
Speaker 1: of aliens or creatures that were very close to what
Speaker 1: you saw in that ship that day?
Speaker 2: So the gray looked like you're staying or gray, you know.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of movies kind of have as
Speaker 2: like a standard little three or four foot tall gray alien,
Speaker 2: black almond eyes, gracean like elongated head that common the
Speaker 2: other one looking at like. I've went on my computer
Speaker 2: over the years and just like looked up different alien
Speaker 2: types the mantis being. Seems that they depict some of
Speaker 2: them seem fairly close to what I saw. The blue
Speaker 2: one there is, you know, and they have like pictures
Speaker 2: of the not real pictures sketches or whatever of the
Speaker 2: blue one. I have not seen anything that completely. I
Speaker 2: would be like, yes, that's exactly what I saw if
Speaker 2: I had, if anybody seen the movie Signs that those aliens,
Speaker 2: that was like the body type of it, but it
Speaker 2: had like a ball round head, like a big round head,
Speaker 2: and was blue and had big veins in it and
Speaker 2: silver eyes. So those two I have not seen really
Speaker 2: any movies that I could recall that depicted those two beings.
Speaker 1: That's that's really interesting. Yeas Signs freaked me out when
Speaker 1: I was younger. It's not that crazy either, but it's
Speaker 1: just like very suspenseful and that I don't really get
Speaker 1: into that stuff. I'm in a big foot, but it's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: kind of draw the line at Signs. I guess. But
Speaker 1: did you have any things happened to you as you
Speaker 1: as you got older that might be related to seeing
Speaker 1: these aliens?
Speaker 2: Not? Not really. I mean I've seen stuff in the sky.
Speaker 2: I mean my wife where we're living at right now
Speaker 2: here in Queues Bay. We've lived here at this house
Speaker 2: for like sixteen or seventeen years. We've seen pretty good
Speaker 2: stuff here, but not like life forms or anything like that,
Speaker 2: just like UFOs by definition stuff We couldn't tell you
Speaker 2: what they were. Definitely didn't seem like they were the
Speaker 2: dreaded drone or you know, or a plane or anything
Speaker 2: like that. Like they seem to be actual UFOs and
Speaker 2: really that yeah, nothing like some An interesting and interesting
Speaker 2: note is that I am OURH negative blood. A lot
Speaker 2: of people who pass that, are you ourhe negative? I
Speaker 2: am for sure, I just you're ago. Had they drew
Speaker 2: blood to just do my urity check up and I
Speaker 2: asked them, I say, hey, what's my blood type? So
Speaker 2: that I am alage negative, so that might be something
Speaker 2: that ties in with that. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: What was your reaction when you found that out that
Speaker 1: that's your blood type.
Speaker 2: I would have to say I was kind of like, uh,
Speaker 2: you know that kind of thing, like kind of like
Speaker 2: another piece that fit. I guess if each negative blood
Speaker 2: is it has truth to it.
Speaker 1: So I think I think there's a lot of truth
Speaker 1: to that. I mean a lot of individuals I talked
Speaker 1: to where they have weird stuff happened. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's the blood type. It's very very interesting these So
Speaker 1: the two things that you've shared so far, when you
Speaker 1: got older, did you ever have a conversation with either
Speaker 1: of your parents about either of those things that happened?
Speaker 2: So my mom and dad they were like really closed
Speaker 2: minded to that kind of stuff. Anything abnormal was like demonistic,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, or just it was like
Speaker 2: dark and didn't want nothing to do with it. But
Speaker 2: my mom mostly like she passed away a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago, and before she did, me and my sister.
Speaker 2: My sister really ended up big Foot and team stuff too.
Speaker 2: The next story comes up she was involved with this,
Speaker 2: But we're like, Mom, do you remember that in Juncton
Speaker 2: City when it broke Probably She's like yeah, I'm like, mom,
Speaker 2: do you remember how that back into the trader was
Speaker 2: off the ground like by three or four feet or
Speaker 2: something like that. She's like, yeah, and I said, so
Speaker 2: a standard door is like what seven foot or something
Speaker 2: like that, So that means the top of that door
Speaker 2: was close to like ten feet off the ground and
Speaker 2: that's where it broke. It was up there, I said, Mom,
Speaker 2: Bears don't reach up as high as they can, and
Speaker 2: there ain't a black bear in California that I that
Speaker 2: I know of that could reach up ten feet and
Speaker 2: have the power to push in play with like that.
Speaker 2: But she was like, yeah, yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 2: And I was like, and Mom, one other thing is
Speaker 2: you don't hear bears go boom boom boom walking around
Speaker 2: the house. And she's like yeah, and as I can.
Speaker 2: And Chartie found the footprint Mom, and then we heard
Speaker 2: the scream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't I just
Speaker 2: think it was all ant you know, stuff you can
Speaker 2: that had ever answer is basically how she put it.
Speaker 2: I would not believe that it is.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. Yeah, I mean some people do not
Speaker 1: want to cross that line. I totally get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've experienced that myself and with relatives, and it's just
Speaker 1: that they don't want to cross that line. And I
Speaker 1: get it, you know, I crossed the line, like I've
Speaker 1: crossed that line. You've crossed that line too. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: both tries that line. So no problem there. But I
Speaker 1: can get you know, there are people out there where
Speaker 1: the like, you know, I like knowing how life works
Speaker 1: and staying on this side where everything is okay and manageable. Right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but uh, yep, there's more.
Speaker 2: Gold was a logger. He worked like, operated a cat
Speaker 2: a bulldozer for logging. And they cut this road in
Speaker 2: in between Weaverville and Traney Center, right by Trinity Lake.
Speaker 2: Cut this road into old growth for you know, like
Speaker 2: giant ten foot diameter trees and stuff. Worked until night
Speaker 2: on the end up there, it's like red clay mud,
Speaker 2: and cut this road in. Never been cut a road
Speaker 2: in there before. Cut this road in. Next morning, they
Speaker 2: get there at like four thirty the diesel, you know,
Speaker 2: fuel up the cat and stuff, and he said, here
Speaker 2: were these gianormous footprints coming out of the woods. Walked
Speaker 2: around the cat and walked right back down in the wood.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Dad, so what do you think that could be?
Speaker 2: He's like, we think it was a hoax or trying
Speaker 2: to scare us off, trying to shut down the logging.
Speaker 2: I'm like, really, so they came out of these woods
Speaker 2: where there's no road near there, walked around the cat
Speaker 2: only and then walked back into the woods. That's how
Speaker 2: they're gonna host sh it. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's wild, I mean, and that's that's
Speaker 1: early eighties. You said, right, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, wow, gonness,
Speaker 1: that's just that's so so intense. Now, David, you also
Speaker 1: have a third experience that you would that you're wanting
Speaker 1: to share it tonight. Correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, sir, this happened in right here near Crews Bay.
Speaker 2: It's placed a lot of the people I know when
Speaker 2: we were in your chat on a couple of shows ago,
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, yeah, I know the Elliott So
Speaker 2: this was in the Elliotts twoenty nineteen, and me and
Speaker 2: my wife were be hunting Elk and we got up there.
Speaker 2: So Elk season starts at on Saturday morning. We got
Speaker 2: up there at Thursday evening, probably about an hour before
Speaker 2: dark or so. And as soon as we get there,
Speaker 2: I got my camper off the back of my truck.
Speaker 2: We had a cab over camper, took that off my
Speaker 2: truck and my sister Cindy, who were just talking about
Speaker 2: who's into the big footing. She followed us up there
Speaker 2: in her car and she had never been up there before.
Speaker 2: She followed us up there in the car and she
Speaker 2: was just going to sleep in her car with her
Speaker 2: two little dogs, and me and my wife had our
Speaker 2: camper and want our little dog. And so we get there.
Speaker 2: I get the camper off at gets me toward ers,
Speaker 2: like about twenty minutes left a light. So I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: do you want you guys want me to run and
Speaker 2: get my trail camera real quick because I had a
Speaker 2: trail camera up there for like two months, you know,
Speaker 2: just scouting for elk and stuff. And they're like yeah.
Speaker 2: So I ran up there and got my camp, got
Speaker 2: back right at dark. We checked up the pictures and
Speaker 2: there was just like elekin deer on it. Nothing weird.
Speaker 2: And so we're setting up camp and it's probably about
Speaker 2: ten o'clock and my sister's like, we got company and
Speaker 2: I'm like what do you mean. She goes, you didn't
Speaker 2: hear that, and I was like no. She's like, there
Speaker 2: was just a big bang. It sounds like train off,
Speaker 2: but a big bang up the hill right there. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, Cindy, there is nobody up there, I promise.
Speaker 2: And so in the area at Stave Forest, we're like
Speaker 2: eleven miles up this gravel road to get to the turnoff,
Speaker 2: and it's on the nine thousand road. Your map probably
Speaker 2: won't show you very much on that, but it was
Speaker 2: on the nine thousand road. We drove down that. I
Speaker 2: think it's about three miles down that. So we're like
Speaker 2: a total about fourteen miles up into the woods and
Speaker 2: we're just pulled over on the edge of the gravel camping.
Speaker 2: One camp was about five miles away from us, and
Speaker 2: that was the only camp that was up there, the
Speaker 2: only other camp, And so I was like, Cindy, there's
Speaker 2: nobody up there, I promise. We're in this valley. There's
Speaker 2: like a behind our camp. On the one side, it's
Speaker 2: like drops down off the road about ten feet and
Speaker 2: there's a big flat goes to a creek and then
Speaker 2: it goes up the side of the mountain. On the
Speaker 2: other side of the road we were a camp just
Speaker 2: goes straight up the hill and it's just like thick
Speaker 2: thick dick, like they clear the young trees and just
Speaker 2: left them slash slash piles everywhere. So you couldn't already
Speaker 2: get through there, and she was like, the noise came
Speaker 2: from right there, and I was like, yeah, there's nobody
Speaker 2: up there. So it's kind of like red flag right there.
Speaker 2: And so long story short, because we were up there
Speaker 2: for nine nine days and every day and every night
Speaker 2: there was what sounded like big knocks, just just knocks,
Speaker 2: and then at one point we heard like a knock
Speaker 2: and then like brush like it was running through the brush.
Speaker 2: And I'm just writing everything off, like Cindy, because me
Speaker 2: and my wife were just like we we've hunted up
Speaker 2: the fourteen years and we camped up there the one
Speaker 2: whole elk season, the whole month in a tent and
Speaker 2: never had anything happen. This is all the first time
Speaker 2: out of fourteen years of being up there, and so
Speaker 2: I'm writing everything off, writ and everything off, and then,
Speaker 2: like I'd say, it was probably like the fifth day
Speaker 2: we're up there. My sister's in the back seat of
Speaker 2: my truck, my wife's driving, and I'm in the passenger seat,
Speaker 2: and we're going to drive to this one spot and
Speaker 2: we're going to get out walk this blocked off road
Speaker 2: and we come around the corner and there's a herd
Speaker 2: elk on my side down the hill, and they're not
Speaker 2: spread out like a normal herd would be. They were
Speaker 2: like in a circle, like just bunched up. And there
Speaker 2: was a legal bull and that herd, and he was
Speaker 2: kind of walking on the outside of him that like
Speaker 2: he was wanting to walk off, that he would turn
Speaker 2: around and walk back to the herd. They do that
Speaker 2: kind of standard, but you know, like they're going to
Speaker 2: keep other bulls away from their cows. But the way
Speaker 2: they were all hunched up, and I'm like, okay. So
Speaker 2: my sister stayed in the truck and me and my
Speaker 2: wife get out and we're getting the wind right and
Speaker 2: getting to where they can't see us. And we walk
Speaker 2: up the road and we cut off down through the
Speaker 2: brush and it's really thick, you know, really thick brush
Speaker 2: up there, salow and huckleberries and just thick brush, and
Speaker 2: so we're kind of making noise, sneaking down, sneaky, but
Speaker 2: we're making noise, so like right in our ears is noise.
Speaker 2: And my sister said, as soon as we left the road,
Speaker 2: there was like three different knocks from three different directions,
Speaker 2: like they had those elks surrounded and those knocks came
Speaker 2: from each side of those elk as soon as we
Speaker 2: left the road, and we didn't hear it. Me and
Speaker 2: my wife didn't hear it. And so my sister's kind
Speaker 2: of from the road, she can kind of get glimpses
Speaker 2: of us going through the brush, kind of working our
Speaker 2: way off down that road below that road, sneaking up
Speaker 2: those elks, and the elk kind of start moving off,
Speaker 2: and she says, right behind us, like twentyears, three thirty yards,
Speaker 2: she goes, I'm not kidding, brother, there was something black
Speaker 2: following you and ded through the brush. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: it could have been a bull, you know, another elk
Speaker 2: with like the black name that they have. And she's like, well,
Speaker 2: I heard three knocks right before I saw it. So
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. And I'm like, okay, okay, I
Speaker 2: believe you. And so now we get to where it
Speaker 2: kind of gets really interesting. So it's probably the sixth
Speaker 2: or seventh night it kind of all adds up. I
Speaker 2: have it wrote down somewhere, but I mean it's so
Speaker 2: burned in my memory that you know, I pretty much
Speaker 2: can tell her word for word. But we uh on
Speaker 2: most of the night, on all the nights leading up
Speaker 2: to this, I had my twelve gage shotgun that I
Speaker 2: would lean against the back of my camper when we
Speaker 2: were sitting out there, because we'd sit out there till
Speaker 2: like ten or eleven, just you know, talking and we're
Speaker 2: camping and that it was great and you should. We
Speaker 2: had a lantern burning, and this night I had my
Speaker 2: little head my little Walmart special headlamp on and I
Speaker 2: had it on the green setting and we only had
Speaker 2: a mosquito candle burning for light. We didn't even have
Speaker 2: a lantern or nothing. And I left my shotgun inside
Speaker 2: the camper. And every time my sister smoked cigarettes, and
Speaker 2: so when she would get up to move away from
Speaker 2: me and my wife so the smoke went goodbye, she
Speaker 2: would step up into that gravel road and smoke. So
Speaker 2: when she would do that, I would get up and
Speaker 2: just turn on my headlamp, you know, and look around
Speaker 2: just to make sure it's good. So she gets up
Speaker 2: to smoke, and it's about ten thirty at night, and
Speaker 2: me and my wife are kind of getting ready to
Speaker 2: go faed, but she gets up to smoke, so I
Speaker 2: step up with her, and I shine my headlamp directly
Speaker 2: across the road because that was kind of the closest trees.
Speaker 2: And I looked to the right, and then I turned
Speaker 2: to the left, and as I'm walking, I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of her I'm shining. I'm kind of walk in the
Speaker 2: direction I'm shining to my light. So I and start
Speaker 2: walking back to the left and hit the road or
Speaker 2: my headlamp hits the road, and I was like, boom,
Speaker 2: we got we got eyes. And there was the giant,
Speaker 2: giant size and spread of eyeballs like thirty yards away
Speaker 2: from me, right on the edge of the gravel road,
Speaker 2: but down now, like a couple of feet off the ground,
Speaker 2: and they're just burning, big reflective eyeballs. I'm like, we
Speaker 2: got eyes like that. My sister's like what. She turns
Speaker 2: around and walked it to me. She's like, oh, just
Speaker 2: like starts hyperventilating, and I can hear the gravel. She's
Speaker 2: walking back and she gets to her car, she like
Speaker 2: rolls up the window on her car so her dog
Speaker 2: would jump out. And I'm still just standing there looking
Speaker 2: at and this thing is not blinking, it's not turning,
Speaker 2: it's not doing anything. And I'm not taking my eyes off.
Speaker 2: I'm just staring at it. And I can hear her
Speaker 2: walk back up to me and look at it again,
Speaker 2: and uh like hyperventilates, and she walks back towards your car.
Speaker 2: And about that time, when she's walking by my light,
Speaker 2: my life, she's like really hard to hear. She's still
Speaker 2: sitting in her camp chair next to the camper. She
Speaker 2: can see it. She's just looking at it, sitting there,
Speaker 2: and I was like, bib, I need the flashlight in
Speaker 2: the gun right now. And I heard her get up
Speaker 2: and she's going into camper and like here dutop, dup doom.
Speaker 2: She's in there getting the flashlight in my shotgun. I'm
Speaker 2: at this point, I'm honestly, I'm thinking my bear. That's
Speaker 2: just what I'm thinking. It's like a bear. But the
Speaker 2: eyes were huge and far apart. Bears are not. And
Speaker 2: I can hear the gravel. She's walking upside me and mean,
Speaker 2: this thing are still logged on. And she comes up
Speaker 2: and she bumps my left arm and literally has the
Speaker 2: shotgun and our flashlightight right there. So I take my
Speaker 2: eyes off it, grab it and turn and look and
Speaker 2: hit the light and that being was gone, I mean,
Speaker 2: like not there, and I'm I'm expecting to shoot a
Speaker 2: bear honestly and or just scare a bear off. And
Speaker 2: this thing's gone and it's rainforest on both sides, and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, you know, I'm like where to go? Where
Speaker 2: to go? And they're like, I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: and it's like where did it go out? And I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, do you guys want me to just
Speaker 2: go ahead and fire shot off? Just come of Still
Speaker 2: my brain's still trying to tell me it was an animal,
Speaker 2: and they're like, yeah, I do, I do it. So
Speaker 2: I just pointed in my shotgun up in the air
Speaker 2: and boom, fired it off. So we talked for a
Speaker 2: little while and went to bed, and the next morning,
Speaker 2: instead of going getting up and just going straight hunting,
Speaker 2: we wanted to wait till daylight and just walked down
Speaker 2: there down the road that thirty yards or so and
Speaker 2: look at where it was, you know, where it was
Speaker 2: at when it was happening. You could see like scuf
Speaker 2: marks on the hard pack gravel where it looked like
Speaker 2: it pushed itself back off that road, and it, like
Speaker 2: I said, on that side of the road, it dropped
Speaker 2: down about between six and ten feet, you know, depending
Speaker 2: on where you're out on that road down to a
Speaker 2: really thick tree act and it goes back to that
Speaker 2: creek and then up the hill. Well, somehow that thing
Speaker 2: got out of there in an instant. I mean I
Speaker 2: didn't take my eyes off it and look at my
Speaker 2: wife walking up and give it, you know, ten seconds
Speaker 2: to run off. She bunt my arm and I literally
Speaker 2: just like turned grab it and turned back at the
Speaker 2: the road and it was gone. So that was that
Speaker 2: raise of like really big red flag, Like, man, I
Speaker 2: don't the not hearing it run off is what spooked
Speaker 2: me the most. I guess it's like there's no way
Speaker 2: you could a bear or an elk or whatever it
Speaker 2: could have ran off at like full speed. It would
Speaker 2: have to just like bolted and not made a sound.
Speaker 2: So now we're gonna just for time's sake, we'll flash
Speaker 2: flash forward to nine nine, so it's getting dark and
Speaker 2: or at the same spot. And every night and every day,
Speaker 2: like I said, is there's stuff happening that you could
Speaker 2: associate with animals or bigfoot or whatever. Just stuff happening.
Speaker 2: Noises and stumps sound like they're being torn apart, and
Speaker 2: knocks and just stick pop here and there, which is
Speaker 2: normal in the woods. But just everything was adding up
Speaker 2: to this. So night number nine getting dark and sudden
Speaker 2: we hear this, you know, like a hood al bardal.
Speaker 2: And so my sister she's getting her her drink on
Speaker 2: me and my wife did not drink, still don't, no drugs,
Speaker 2: nothing like that. Were totally one hundred percent sober. And
Speaker 2: she's having a good time laughing and trying to answer
Speaker 2: the owl back, and the owl would kind of answer
Speaker 2: back to her, but he would answer back. It would
Speaker 2: answer back every time I did it. And so my
Speaker 2: sister's got her phone and she still has the recording
Speaker 2: of this, has her phone and she's recording that owl
Speaker 2: going back and forth. Well, like I said, is this
Speaker 2: is like at ten ten thirty at night by the
Speaker 2: time this all comes down, So she'd been recording for
Speaker 2: like fifteen or twenty minutes at least. At one point,
Speaker 2: you could hear me go, hey, Cindy, remember on Jurassic
Speaker 2: Park where the one Veloci rapper kept the attention of
Speaker 2: the guy while the other one's knuck up bying. She's
Speaker 2: like yeah, and I'm like, that's probably what's happening right now,
Speaker 2: and we laughed about it. Well, my wife was getting
Speaker 2: ready to go to bed, and so our little dog.
Speaker 2: She wanted the little dog to go potty before I
Speaker 2: went to bed. So I walk over with my wife
Speaker 2: and the dogs, you know, on the edge of the road,
Speaker 2: and we're standing there with the flashlight on it kind
Speaker 2: of get the dog go back. The dog would not go.
Speaker 2: Dog would not go. And my sister's still over there,
Speaker 2: calling back and forth like drunk, calling this owl, and
Speaker 2: the owl is still going off, and it's across that
Speaker 2: the owls across that flat and back by that creek area,
Speaker 2: which I would say was a little less than a
Speaker 2: hundred yards away from where we were camping, and so
Speaker 2: I say, hey. My wife's like, hey, I think her
Speaker 2: calling is making our dog nervous. Can you tell her stop?
Speaker 2: And I was like okay. So I was like, hey, Siddy,
Speaker 2: can you stop calling for a second. I think you're
Speaker 2: making the dog nervous. So she's like okay, So she
Speaker 2: stops recording, which is classic, and she's sitting there and
Speaker 2: the dog's doing and go. So I picked up the
Speaker 2: dog and we start walking over to my sister, and
Speaker 2: as soon as we all three get together, that owl
Speaker 2: hoots again. So we all kind of stop and look
Speaker 2: up in the dark, look towards that direction, and this
Speaker 2: time owl goes and it kind of goes like drop down.
Speaker 2: We call it like an angry owl, like an angry
Speaker 2: owl sound. And then immediately to the left of it,
Speaker 2: we're like a kyote was gonna yip. And then just
Speaker 2: left of that, just this this roar, this roared Jeremiah
Speaker 2: was so deep and so loud that you literally could
Speaker 2: feel it in your chest, and you could hear the
Speaker 2: trees ringing like ten freight train horns loud, just brah,
Speaker 2: and all three of our jaws dropped, and we all
Speaker 2: three had kind of watery eyes. And I said what
Speaker 2: And I did cuss that time, and I don't ever
Speaker 2: hardy cuss. I was like, what was that? And they're like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I was like, get stuff,
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go, because I mean, it was like
Speaker 2: it felt like we were about to die if we
Speaker 2: didn't get out there. And so she gathered, you know,
Speaker 2: my wife gathered like her medicine bag and her purse.
Speaker 2: My sister she didn't really have anything. So she just
Speaker 2: jumped in her car and waited for me and Ddie
Speaker 2: and we got in our truck and my wife drove
Speaker 2: and I had my shotgun out the window with a
Speaker 2: flashlight because we had to drive right past where that
Speaker 2: war came from. And I stood jarred as we drove by.
Speaker 2: And we got out of there, and we went back
Speaker 2: up a week later to get my camper. It took
Speaker 2: us a week to go back up there.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, let's say, okay, man, you left. I guess
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I mean I probably would have done
Speaker 1: a similar thing. I mean, I can't imagine hearing something
Speaker 1: like that so close to you, freaking I.
Speaker 2: Mean like freaky loud. Yeah, And it was one sound
Speaker 2: was one voice box. The owl was like one voice box.
Speaker 2: Then the yip yip came a little bit to the left,
Speaker 2: like it was a different voice box. Then a little
Speaker 2: more left was that big war. So it was like
Speaker 2: what like three of them on this you know, right
Speaker 2: off the side camp and that roar just it wasn't
Speaker 2: like it was just like like you get the sense
Speaker 2: like that's enough, you know, that's what it was. But
Speaker 2: it was intense, loud and deep, and we had bailout
Speaker 2: bugle you know, yards from us, and they're huge, you know,
Speaker 2: they're one thousand pounds nine hundred pounds with big chest,
Speaker 2: and that that wouldn't even have touched the sound that
Speaker 2: this thing made.
Speaker 1: Thank goodness, because it it sounds like you're very familiar
Speaker 1: with what the animals of that area should sound like.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I've hunted my whole life and hunted this spot
Speaker 2: for now for twenty years. And yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: heard the elt and heard coyotes, and he heard bobcat
Speaker 2: squall in and fox doing their little calls and stuff,
Speaker 2: and people were like, well, maybe it was an owl.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I know owls can be loud, and
Speaker 2: they can sound bigger than what their chess, you know,
Speaker 2: can produce. But this thing was like freight training horn loud,
Speaker 2: just brah. So. Yeah, when I heard that, that's when
Speaker 2: I knew that we were not dealing with just an animal.
Speaker 2: That's when it was like all rolled through my brain,
Speaker 2: like the culmination of all that nine days just went
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: Have you heard anything that even comes close to that sound?
Speaker 2: I had? There was one recording, so we did. Of course,
Speaker 2: me and my sister. My wife's kind of not into
Speaker 2: it as much and my sister's the most into it,
Speaker 2: but she found something on the internet that was supposed
Speaker 2: to be a bigfoot recording, and it was the closest
Speaker 2: I think it might have been in Canada, but it
Speaker 2: was the closest. We all three agreed to what we heard.
Speaker 2: M that's that's no animal that I know of. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've hunted moose and up in Alaska, kill bull, elk,
Speaker 2: killed a bull, moose, killed a lot of bears, a
Speaker 2: lot of bear in my life and stuff, and there's
Speaker 2: just I just don't know of anything else it could
Speaker 2: have been.
Speaker 1: And this is, uh, this is southern Elliott State Forest.
Speaker 2: This is the yes, the southern side of the Elliot
Speaker 2: State Forest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been following, Like I use Google masks, but
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll use on X because you can actually see
Speaker 1: the Forest Service roads.
Speaker 2: Uh huh and uh I got on X.
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Speaker 2: I mean, guys, absolutely even hikers and whatever because you
Speaker 2: can track yourself and everything. I love it. I'm dropping
Speaker 2: tins like you said, I've Yeah, we've had it for
Speaker 2: like probably eight years now or something, and we're not
Speaker 2: going without it. We renew it every year. But yeah,
Speaker 2: if you're looking at like you go up the one
Speaker 2: thousand road, which is Marlow Creek is actually the name
Speaker 2: of it. Yep, I see, and then went up at
Speaker 2: like eleven miles or thirteen miles or something to the
Speaker 2: nine thousand road, and then you dropped left down the
Speaker 2: nine thousand and we were down the bottom of that road,
Speaker 2: so we looked, and in two thousand and one there
Speaker 2: was a bow hunter hunting elk on that same exact
Speaker 2: road had a daytime sighting while he was stalking elk.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember if that was Bfro or if
Speaker 2: that was like my big Fizz of Oregon or I
Speaker 2: can't remember where it was, but there was on the
Speaker 2: exact same road. In two one a bow hunter saw
Speaker 2: a daytime bigfoot stalking the same ALKI was from like
Speaker 2: forty yards away.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. That that is awesome when you when
Speaker 1: you see that kind of thing, you find that report
Speaker 1: and that's just like, you know, you know what you experience,
Speaker 1: but it's like when you see someone else experience something
Speaker 1: in the same area and you're like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: just this, this is it. You know, it's it's like
Speaker 1: yours bunks.
Speaker 2: Your hair stands up, like oh.
Speaker 1: Man, absolutely, yeah, would you ever go back to that area?
Speaker 2: So we still hunt there every year, oh okay, but
Speaker 2: we do not camp there, and we and the whole
Speaker 2: time we've been there since Jeremiah nothing, it's been fine,
Speaker 2: but we're not camped at that same spot, but we
Speaker 2: camp all around that. I mean within a couple, you know,
Speaker 2: a mile or two of that same spot, and we've
Speaker 2: never had anything. You know, we've had stuff or you're
Speaker 2: like uh huh, you know, leave us alone, but nothing
Speaker 2: like that, you know where it was like days of
Speaker 2: interaction basically.
Speaker 1: Okay, So they're they're doing little stuff like are they
Speaker 1: like throwing little rocks or wood knocks or things like that,
Speaker 1: or one.
Speaker 2: Time, you know, I both just heard a knock and
Speaker 2: I was like, did you hear that? She's like yeah,
Speaker 2: and I was like, chop the truck. She turned off
Speaker 2: the truck and we were driving up this one road
Speaker 2: and you have almost four by it. You're not quite
Speaker 2: four buying, but you're going real slow. And I was
Speaker 2: actually looking at like five or six full ELK carcasses,
Speaker 2: like the full skeletons. And I'm sitting there looking at
Speaker 2: these skeletons with my binoculars and they're literally like thirty
Speaker 2: yards off the side of this hill, off the side
Speaker 2: of the road, and I get my binoculars and I'm
Speaker 2: trying to look at details of them, like, well, how
Speaker 2: did they die? You know, is there like teeth marking
Speaker 2: the bones. I was just kind of checking that out,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I was like and I
Speaker 2: looked over at my wife and she looked at me,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you heard that. She was yeah, and
Speaker 2: it was like, kill the truck. Kill the truck. So
Speaker 2: she shut the truck off, and we're both kind of
Speaker 2: got our you know, our ear radars up and from
Speaker 2: the same exact spot, which was down just below those skeletons,
Speaker 2: just probably thirty seconds later, maybe just I think, let's go,
Speaker 2: and we fired the truck up and left. So that
Speaker 2: was near right near there. That was probably about seven
Speaker 2: miles from there, but in that same general southern part
Speaker 2: of the Elliott.
Speaker 1: So, did you notice if those elk were killed in
Speaker 1: any weird way, like if they I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can you tell if an animal has a broken neck,
Speaker 1: if it's if you could just see the skeleton.
Speaker 2: I if you went up and twist, you know, turned it.
Speaker 2: I suppose you could. I don't know if I just
Speaker 2: looking at it right and and you know, I definitely
Speaker 2: didn't notice that looking at him through the truck. That's
Speaker 2: what I was looking at, like seeing if I could
Speaker 2: see like a crush neck or you know, crushed vertebrae
Speaker 2: or broken ribs. The one weird kind of thing about
Speaker 2: that I was looking at is there was one hide,
Speaker 2: like the skin part, and it was rolled up kind
Speaker 2: of like rolled in a like a tube shape, rolled
Speaker 2: that and I thought, and I'm in my mind, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, well, could could be poachers, you know, or
Speaker 2: they dumping like poached elk off the side. And I
Speaker 2: was like, well, they would have had to throw these
Speaker 2: skeletons pretty far off the edge of the road to
Speaker 2: get them to where they're all laying right there. Yes,
Speaker 2: they could have drug them all there, but why would
Speaker 2: you drug drag them to where they could be seen,
Speaker 2: you know, just kind of like that's what was going
Speaker 2: through my mind while I'm sitting there, and the truck
Speaker 2: was just idle, and then that knock and I'm like
Speaker 2: kill it, kill it, and she killed the truck, and
Speaker 2: like thirty seconds later again it was like let's go.
Speaker 2: I'm done.
Speaker 1: Let's so you're saying that you're you're staying in different
Speaker 1: places than the original place. How far away from the
Speaker 1: original place are you approximately when you're staying in these
Speaker 1: other places now?
Speaker 2: Basically, so you've seen where the nine thousand goes off
Speaker 2: of the one thousand road. We stayed right at that
Speaker 2: junction quite a bit. And then we've also stayed on
Speaker 2: a road that's the eighteen hundred road, which the bottom
Speaker 2: of it literally is like a mile from where we
Speaker 2: were camping at. We stayed on that road quite a bit.
Speaker 2: So in general, just a rough, rough idea probably oh
Speaker 2: probably within three miles or four miles or something of
Speaker 2: that spot. Went up there, and like my other sister
Speaker 2: came up from southern California, wanted to go really bad.
Speaker 2: We went up there and sat there all night, like
Speaker 2: had even had a little campfire going, and just sat
Speaker 2: there and talked all night and not had anything happen,
Speaker 2: not a sound.
Speaker 1: Oh at the original spot, the original spot weird, Okay.
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe it's a thing where they just
Speaker 1: really want you not to ever be in that spot
Speaker 1: and they're like, let's get them out. But that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. Huh.
Speaker 2: You want to know some creepier Jeremiah, Yeah, is that
Speaker 2: spot when we first found that spot. It wasn't the
Speaker 2: very first day of it when I was like always
Speaker 2: scout around my camps and I always go into the
Speaker 2: brush and in the trees and just kind of know
Speaker 2: what's around my you know, my surroundings. There is like
Speaker 2: where that hit it drops off from the road and
Speaker 2: goes down to that flat. There's like seven or eight
Speaker 2: or nine dog collars around trees that the trees are
Speaker 2: literally growing around these collars like it's a dog burial
Speaker 2: ground or so. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: With anything or not, but the collar was put around
Speaker 1: the tree by something.
Speaker 2: Yes, And the names of the dogs. I have pictures
Speaker 2: of them, the names of the dogs on the called
Speaker 2: the tag, like the name tags, and they're like leather
Speaker 2: and like that webbing, like synthetic webbing. Collars and the
Speaker 2: trees are literally starting to grow around them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that's not cool. I would be like that,
Speaker 1: that would that would freak me out the most, probably
Speaker 1: seeing like that's just that's that's weird. That's a new level. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but it's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we felt the same way, like, well, are
Speaker 2: people It's just like somebody's favorite spot that they used
Speaker 2: to camp and they're bringing their you know, the memory
Speaker 2: of their dog being there or where the dogs killed
Speaker 2: there or did something else put them there or I yeah,
Speaker 2: it's creepy, it is creepy.
Speaker 1: It will be really interesting. I just have a feeling
Speaker 1: there's gonna be people that have also had things happen
Speaker 1: in this same area, and they'll go hopefully be leaving
Speaker 1: stuff in the comments. If not, they can always send
Speaker 1: me an email. But uh, yeah, dude, this is this
Speaker 1: is some wild stuff. I mean, I remember I remember
Speaker 1: hearing a little bit about this from you before, but
Speaker 1: there's definitely you were able to share some more interesting details,
Speaker 1: uh tonight, And I'm just glad that we're able to
Speaker 1: chat again.
Speaker 2: Me too, Me too. It's been way too long, you know,
Speaker 2: coming and you know it's hard to spit it out
Speaker 2: here in Miam. But it sure it feels good every
Speaker 2: time you're able to just say it and get it
Speaker 2: off your chest. And I know some of it's really
Speaker 2: out there, and there's gonna be people like you know, okay,
Speaker 2: and that's fine that you know, we all got our
Speaker 2: own opinions and everything, and I'm not looking for anybody
Speaker 2: to give me any you know, like confirmation. I know
Speaker 2: what I experienced in what I've seen just to be
Speaker 2: able to tell you, and you know, I'm really a
Speaker 2: big fan of Jeremiah Byron and big Foot Society and everything,
Speaker 2: and it's been an honor just to be here and
Speaker 2: talking with you.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that well, David, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just glad you could come on the show again. It's
Speaker 1: always we've talked a few times. It's always a fun
Speaker 1: time when we talk. And we were saying before the
Speaker 1: show started, maybe you know, you might be able to
Speaker 1: make it out to Oakridge. If so, i'd you know,
Speaker 1: definitely be awesome to meet you in person there. But
Speaker 1: just yeah, thank you so much for coming on tonight.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And stay in touch, man, for sure,
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 2: And that's definitely my bucket list man to make it
Speaker 2: there and see that would be great. I'd be that
Speaker 2: would be one of the yeah pop bucket lists things
Speaker 2: that I could do. So and it's been great talk
Speaker 2: with you, Jeremiah, and you take care of Buddy and
Speaker 2: we look forward to hearing all your videos.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, just wanted to take a minute to say
Speaker 1: thank you truly for listening to this episode of the
Speaker 1: Bigfoot Society podcast. David's story isn't just one of the
Speaker 1: most intense encounters we've ever had in this show, it's
Speaker 1: one of the most unforgettable. From red orbs in the
Speaker 1: night to that roar deep in the Elliott State Forest,
Speaker 1: his experiences remind us how much of the unknown still
Speaker 1: lives in the woods and sometimes how close it can get.
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