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Speaker 2: Well, hello everyone, I am not Dan Caples.
Speaker 3: It's Heidi Ganoll here filling in for Dan while he's
Speaker 3: working a trial and hosting with Christy Burton Brown.
Speaker 2: This is going to be a lot of fun. Christy.
Speaker 4: We have so much to talk about, we do, and
Speaker 4: it's so fun doing this with you. I'm glad that
Speaker 4: we get to be here together, and for me personally,
Speaker 4: I'm just happy to be back.
Speaker 3: We're very excited about your win on the State Board
Speaker 3: of Education.
Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit.
Speaker 3: About how that's going to play out, the timeline for
Speaker 3: when you get going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm super excited about the State Board of Education.
Speaker 4: I'll get sworn in on January eighth, along with several
Speaker 4: other new members. The board's actually significantly changing its membership.
Speaker 4: But you and I were talking about a little bit
Speaker 4: about this a little bit before we started and CD
Speaker 4: eight Yasmin Navarro, who won for the Republicans.
Speaker 2: That is the bright spot on the board.
Speaker 4: That is why we're going to be able to keep
Speaker 4: a proch harder majority on the state board. So I'll
Speaker 4: just be a piece of it. But some really great
Speaker 4: people got elected and I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Well, and shout out to Douglas County School Board for
Speaker 3: approving a new potential charter school, John Adams, which is
Speaker 3: a classical school. They elected to release it to CSI,
Speaker 3: which is kind of like an independent school district for
Speaker 3: charter schools, and they were just a little worried about
Speaker 3: the swings in Douglas County on the school board and
Speaker 3: how politically that can change so quickly, so they thought
Speaker 3: it was best to go straight to CSI, and of
Speaker 3: course the Democrats on the board did not like that,
Speaker 3: but kudos to Ellie Reynolds and Kim gil Martin for
Speaker 3: getting that across the finish line. They were released to
Speaker 3: CSI last night. So there's a good chance we're going
Speaker 3: to have an amazing classical school in Sterling Ranch and
Speaker 3: it'll eventually be K through twelve. It's going to start
Speaker 3: as K through six, I believe, but really really exciting.
Speaker 3: It went till almost midnight last night in typical school
Speaker 3: board fashion, but you're getting to the trenches.
Speaker 2: You're going to be on the front lines.
Speaker 3: And thank goodness that there's still a little opportunity to
Speaker 3: get charter schools open here in Colorado, because I don't
Speaker 3: think the numbers have gotten much better on achievement rates,
Speaker 3: have they, Christie?
Speaker 2: No, they haven't. And that's definitely something we looked at
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 4: Last year when at Advanced Colorado we were running the
Speaker 4: school choice measure. Is you know what the parents need,
Speaker 4: what our family's looking for in Colorado, and so many
Speaker 4: of them want better options like the charters you're involved in,
Speaker 4: and Kim and Ellie and all these people parents who
Speaker 4: are stepping up and trying to start charters. It's because
Speaker 4: kids are still performing at only a forty percent rate
Speaker 4: on average, Only forty percent of our kids in neighborhood
Speaker 4: traditional public schools can read and do math a grade level.
Speaker 4: Whereas you see seven of the ten top high schools
Speaker 4: in Colorado are charters.
Speaker 3: That's wild, I mean, that is not okay. Our public
Speaker 3: education system is broken. And I don't think any of
Speaker 3: us are against public traditional schools, no, but I do
Speaker 3: think competition will improve results, and I'm really interested to
Speaker 3: see how it plays out with the Department of Education
Speaker 3: and Linda McMahon, and she's said very clearly they're going
Speaker 3: to send the money back to the States in order
Speaker 3: to have control over the education and Colorado hasn't done
Speaker 3: such a hot job. But I think with you on
Speaker 3: the board and Yasmin is that her name, yeah, yeh
Speaker 3: Yehenna of Asman, I think it's going to be really
Speaker 3: exciting to see things change. One of the things we
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about today, I know, is some of
Speaker 3: the bright lights from the elections, some of the successes
Speaker 3: that happened, and there were quite a few across Colorado.
Speaker 2: What is one of your favorites. Oh that's a good question, huh.
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to choose from.
Speaker 4: I think for me, it's the movement that we saw
Speaker 4: in key constituencies in Colorado towards Republicans or conservative values,
Speaker 4: either way you look at it. And we see this
Speaker 4: specifically in Adams and Pueblo County, where we have a
Speaker 4: heavy Hispanic majority or composition of the citizenry there. And
Speaker 4: I think you see you saw this nationally, a lot
Speaker 4: of Hispanics moving to Donald Trump, moving to the Republicans.
Speaker 4: But you saw it happen in Colorado, and I think
Speaker 4: a lot of people doubted it because they're like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: Hispanics in Colorado can be different than Hispanics in Florida.
Speaker 4: We have a lot more people of Mexican heritage here
Speaker 4: in Colorado, whereas they have a lot of Cuban heritage
Speaker 4: in Florida.
Speaker 2: And yet we still saw those key counties.
Speaker 4: And that's what helped put Gabe Evans over the top
Speaker 4: in CD eight, That's what helped Yasmin Navarro, and it's
Speaker 4: what made actually.
Speaker 2: Pueblo now has a Republican DA.
Speaker 4: It's things like that that are key changes that are
Speaker 4: gonna make Colorado safer and bringing more people into the
Speaker 4: Republican Party.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really excited about Pueblo.
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of friends down there, and the
Speaker 3: Road to Red project I'm leading is doing a lot
Speaker 3: of work down there. So we've gotten to know the
Speaker 3: grassroots groups and there's some really amazing people leading the
Speaker 3: charge down there. And in fact, Pueblo now has the
Speaker 3: majority on the County Commissioner board. Paul em feeders one
Speaker 3: down there and replaced a pretty horrible Democrat that was
Speaker 3: doing a lot of damage. And so we've also got
Speaker 3: a Republican mayor. We've got.
Speaker 2: A Republican woman.
Speaker 3: Da Now they had ninety one percent turnout for Republicans
Speaker 3: down on publicad that's so good. They set the bar
Speaker 3: for the rest of the state, and so I see
Speaker 3: Pueblo as a model for the rest of the state.
Speaker 3: And also Pickin County, which is a shocker.
Speaker 2: That's what it's interesting is you have to tell me
Speaker 2: about this. I haven't looked so much at Pickcan.
Speaker 4: I usually, you know, write them off as a lost cause,
Speaker 4: but apparently I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: So I just got a text from John Kelly, who's
Speaker 3: the head of the GOP up there, and he did
Speaker 3: a fantastic job. They swung seven point six points to
Speaker 3: the right present for President Trump. It was the largest
Speaker 3: red shift in the state. And he says they did
Speaker 3: it through a lot of legworks, seventy five hundred calls,
Speaker 3: seventeen hundred texts and postcard endorsements, and multiple email reminders.
Speaker 3: They also targeted Republican leaning independence as well as Republicans,
Speaker 3: and their estimates were that they significantly increased their share
Speaker 3: of votes by subtracting the Republicans from the count so
Speaker 3: they actually grew a lot with independence up in Aspen, Colorado.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is that's quite the accomplishment. Kudos to them
Speaker 4: and John Kelly. I think I got to meet him
Speaker 4: a little bit before I left as chairman, So that's incredible.
Speaker 4: And this is Christy Burton Brown Heidi Ginaal today on
Speaker 4: the Dan Kaplis Show. If you have bright spots in
Speaker 4: the election or anything you want to share, you can
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Speaker 4: But Heidi, I think when we talked about all these
Speaker 4: grassroots activities, this is what's you're big on. It's which
Speaker 4: you've built so well since ending the governor's race, and
Speaker 4: you've you haven't left, You've carried it on.
Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Seeing effectiveness in those grassroots efforts. What what are you
Speaker 4: finding most people want to know or are engaging in.
Speaker 3: Well, one of the things about the governor's race was
Speaker 3: how much I learned about where the gaps were, what
Speaker 3: was working, what wasn't, and I just kind of took
Speaker 3: it all in and I decided one of my passions
Speaker 3: would be going forward is really helping the grassroots become
Speaker 3: more organized, more activated, more engaged, and learning how to
Speaker 3: be more effective on the ground. And so the Road
Speaker 3: to Red Project has about one hundred grassroots groups around
Speaker 3: the state that we're helping and supporting with good technology
Speaker 3: and data and marketing support, and we're getting them to collaborate.
Speaker 3: So I suggest that everybody start as local as you can,
Speaker 3: like in your own neighborhood, find out who your precinct
Speaker 3: chair is, reach out to them, tell them you want
Speaker 3: to be put in the game in the off season.
Speaker 3: They'll probably give you a walk list and tell them.
Speaker 3: They'll tell you to reach out to your neighbors, have
Speaker 3: a barbecue, have a coffee. Just start in your own neighborhood,
Speaker 3: get to know them, and then also start attending your
Speaker 3: county commissioner, your school board, and your.
Speaker 2: City council races.
Speaker 3: You don't have to speak unless you don't want to,
Speaker 3: unless you want to, But that's really critical too. What
Speaker 3: else do you can you think of that people should
Speaker 3: do on a local basis, Well, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I think one thing that the things you're talking
Speaker 4: about lead to those conversations with your neighbors and people
Speaker 4: in your area lead to issue focused discussions, and I
Speaker 4: think that's so helpful, especially in the off years before
Speaker 4: candidates have been identified, and obviously that's what or now
Speaker 4: lead into.
Speaker 2: There's never a break into political cycle.
Speaker 4: But just I was just talking to someone today who
Speaker 4: was saying, every person I talked to in my area
Speaker 4: brings up public safety.
Speaker 2: That is what they are most concerned about.
Speaker 4: It's what they want to hear from their elected officials,
Speaker 4: it's what they want to see them deliver on, and
Speaker 4: affordability being the next issue in this particular area of Colorado.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what we find out, and it's
Speaker 4: really beneficial to our candidates. It's beneficial on ballot measures,
Speaker 4: on groups like Advanced Colorado that are going to be
Speaker 4: running more ballot measures in twenty six to know what
Speaker 4: are people talking about, what do they care about, and
Speaker 4: are you that trusted person in their neighborhood or they
Speaker 4: can say, you know what, this person is the expert,
Speaker 4: and then you.
Speaker 2: Could make voting recommendations, you can connect them to candidates.
Speaker 2: So I think it's just so key making that groundwork
Speaker 2: happen in the off year.
Speaker 3: I think that's that's great. Those are wonderful suggestions. I
Speaker 3: was pretty shocked to see that a rule or a
Speaker 3: law passed in twenty two is going to into effect
Speaker 3: January first, where illegal immigrants will have the opportunity to
Speaker 3: be provided free healthcare, free taxpayer paid healthcare, so our
Speaker 3: tax dollars are going to support people who are here illegally.
Speaker 3: It was pretty shocking, and I think one of the
Speaker 3: things that's happening that's waking people up is what about
Speaker 3: Americans who are struggling. What about Colorado's who are struggling,
Speaker 3: And what about the single moms who can't make it
Speaker 3: on two jobs, three jobs and they have to do
Speaker 3: it the hard way, the old fashioned way, And a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't think that's fair. And one thing
Speaker 3: that I've recognized about America and Colorado is I think
Speaker 3: Americans care about things being fair. And I think that's
Speaker 3: why President Trump got a lot of grace from a
Speaker 3: lot of people who voted the other way before.
Speaker 2: They thought it wasn't fair how he.
Speaker 3: Was treated, how he's still being treated, and so they
Speaker 3: decided to stand up for him.
Speaker 4: No, I think you're right, And I think one thing
Speaker 4: we should talk about when we get back from the
Speaker 4: break is exactly what Polis and the Democrats of the
Speaker 4: legislature are considering cutting from the budget in order to
Speaker 4: pay for all these microants coming into Colorado.
Speaker 2: I think it's to be very concerning to.
Speaker 4: A lot of people you're with how to get all
Speaker 4: on Christy Britton Brown on the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 4: Ryan, I'm always reminded of how good you are at
Speaker 4: picking songs.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: I'm glad I forgot that for a few months and now.
Speaker 2: I know again. Welcome back, thank you. I'm Christy Burton Brown.
Speaker 4: Heidigan All is here at the real host today of
Speaker 4: the Dan Capitalist Show.
Speaker 2: While Dan's in.
Speaker 4: Trial, we get to be sisters on the show and
Speaker 4: talk about every day.
Speaker 2: No, don't let me sing on the radio. That's not good.
Speaker 2: I can tune out quickly. Yeah I can't. I know
Speaker 2: the words.
Speaker 4: I can memorize well, but if you ask me to
Speaker 4: count the beat, like no, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 2: So terrible that I can't do it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: My husband and kids were literally on the campaign show.
Speaker 3: Anytime I'd start to dance or saying, they'd be.
Speaker 4: Like sty I identify with that that makes sense for
Speaker 4: me too. I saw an interesting poll actually now about
Speaker 4: a month out from the election, fifty four percent of
Speaker 4: Americans say that they feel hopeful about the direction of
Speaker 4: the country.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, like usually a country's split fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4: Like if we get fifty four, like, I'll take it
Speaker 4: and we can build from there. But in the same poll,
Speaker 4: I said that thirty four percent of Americans identified the
Speaker 4: economy as the biggest thing the country needs to fix,
Speaker 4: and twenty one percent said the border and immigration. I
Speaker 4: think you know, in states like Colorado, we see even
Speaker 4: more people naming immigration. It was actually the either the
Speaker 4: first or second issue throughout the election. Until election data,
Speaker 4: that's what the majority of people were staying was immigration
Speaker 4: one of the top I believe two issues here in Colorado.
Speaker 4: So it sort of state by state, but I think
Speaker 4: it's interesting to see that, and we definitely see it
Speaker 4: coming home to roost here in Colorado when we look
Speaker 4: at the budget and the shortfall that they supposedly have,
Speaker 4: I mean, I believe them, but that they have in
Speaker 4: the Colorado state budget, how much.
Speaker 2: Did you say?
Speaker 3: It was like a billion dollars? Like one billion dollars.
Speaker 2: No, that's nuts. And I was just talking to a
Speaker 2: representative elect today.
Speaker 4: It was giving me a few details about some of
Speaker 4: the discussions that you know, they're having on the JBC
Speaker 4: and other representative senators, the governors off involved in these
Speaker 4: discussions trying to decide, Okay, what do we have to cut,
Speaker 4: which I mean should be a question government constantly ask
Speaker 4: themselves what should we cut? But I think one thing
Speaker 4: they're considering cutting is funding for IDD in Colorado.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what that was.
Speaker 4: It's intellectually and developmentally disabled people, and the kickers not
Speaker 4: only do they are they considering defunding those people, but
Speaker 4: they're considering moving the funding over to migrant people, immigrants,
Speaker 4: many of theom who are here illegally, and funding their
Speaker 4: health care instead.
Speaker 3: If they do that, twenty twenty six is going to
Speaker 3: be a very good year for conservatives in Colorado.
Speaker 2: That is nuts.
Speaker 3: I mean, that is unbelievable. It's just it's heartbreaking to
Speaker 3: me that they would think of doing that.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 4: I mean, talk about a population that the government actually
Speaker 4: should be taking care of is people who are vulnerable,
Speaker 4: who don't have the ability always to fully take care
Speaker 4: of themselves.
Speaker 2: And you know, There's a lot.
Speaker 4: Of things I think government has no business doing, but
Speaker 4: taking care of truly vulnerable populations is one thing the
Speaker 4: government actually should do. And instead of choosing their own
Speaker 4: citizens who are in a vulnerable spot and need actual help,
Speaker 4: State of Colorado's currently considering funding people here here illegally instead.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think this ties to another article or
Speaker 3: stat that came out yesterday that the state GDP or
Speaker 3: economic growth, that's how they measure it. We were fifth
Speaker 3: about fifteen years ago. Yeah, and now we are forty first.
Speaker 2: Oh, what a fall?
Speaker 3: And that means what does that mean? It means that
Speaker 3: businesses are going to move out of Colorado. It means
Speaker 3: an entrepreneur may not start a business. It means that
Speaker 3: it means that people can't get jobs here. And one
Speaker 3: of the other stats in here was talking about the
Speaker 3: labor force and how let's see where is that stat. Basically,
Speaker 3: white collar jobs, like professional jobs, high paying jobs, is
Speaker 3: still positive, but it's going down sharply from past years,
Speaker 3: and that includes like engineers, lawyers, accountants. It said that
Speaker 3: job gains were skewed to it's lower paying sectors like government.
Speaker 3: Why do you include government jobs in the job break rankings.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but if this pans out, it's going
Speaker 3: to be the worst stretch for job creation in the
Speaker 3: the white collar sector since the Great Recession in Colorado. Wow,
Speaker 3: that's troubling other than twenty twenty during the pandemic. And
Speaker 3: it also means that personal incomes aren't growing as fast
Speaker 3: as they have in the past. So if you're feeling
Speaker 3: that Colorado, it's real. Why is that happening? Why is
Speaker 3: that happening? I think it's the overbearing regulations, the heavy
Speaker 3: hand of government, the increase in taxes and fees.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Christy? Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 4: And actually, if fitting in a few listeners have ideas,
Speaker 4: you should call us eight five five four zero five
Speaker 4: eight two five five or text Dan at five seven
Speaker 4: seven three nine. I actually was reading an article the
Speaker 4: other day, Heidi. I know sunder Lundberg was one of
Speaker 4: the authors. I'm so sorry I cannot remember the other author,
Speaker 4: but they were actually writing about regulations to your point,
Speaker 4: and how it was strangling businesses in Colorado and making
Speaker 4: our economy worse, and basically saying, like how the Chevron
Speaker 4: decision Severn doctrine was overturned earlier this year by the
Speaker 4: US Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: That means to extend down to the states.
Speaker 4: We need to get rid of basically the state level
Speaker 4: Chevron doctrine, where state agencies are allowed to put all
Speaker 4: this rule making all this You know, they won't share licenses,
Speaker 4: Like you have a license in another state, but you
Speaker 4: can't come here and use it in Colorado without paying
Speaker 4: the state more and going through all this.
Speaker 2: Testing and all this training.
Speaker 4: And I get that sometimes that's important, but more often
Speaker 4: than not, it's not. If you can cut hair in
Speaker 4: one state, I think you can probably cut hair in
Speaker 4: the next state. And it's just overbearing regulations that we
Speaker 4: have more people leaving Colorado than moving in, and that
Speaker 4: says something about the economic standpoint that's affecting families.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm really excited.
Speaker 3: One of the things I'm most excited about the President
Speaker 3: Trump agenda is Doge and Elon Musk and vent Back
Speaker 3: taking what they call a sledgehammer to the bureaucracy. And
Speaker 3: one of the things I ran on for governor was
Speaker 3: reducing the size of the bureaucracy by ten percent every
Speaker 3: year in my first term, so forty.
Speaker 2: Percent, and people thought, how on earth are you going
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: And if you're following Vivec and Elon on Twitter on
Speaker 3: x they're giving you examples every day of the waste
Speaker 3: and the overbearing regulations.
Speaker 2: And we could do that in Colorado too. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe I.
Speaker 3: Will start doing I like that idea, but I truly
Speaker 3: think one of the ways back for Colorado, and we're
Speaker 3: going to play governor for a day later and what.
Speaker 2: We would do. But one of the things I would do.
Speaker 3: Is doge in Colorado and just really reduce the size
Speaker 3: of government and the size of the bureaucracy here.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely. I mean I think you can find that
Speaker 4: at every level of government. There's probably some local governments
Speaker 4: actually in Colorado, all granted, that actually do a really
Speaker 4: good job of returning money to their citizens and spending
Speaker 4: on public safety and actual things that people need.
Speaker 2: But at most big levels of government, there's so much waste.
Speaker 4: And how do you actually have a caller? Why don't
Speaker 4: we take Mike from Westminster? Welcome to the Capital Show
Speaker 4: with Christine Heidi.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, what are you thinking today?
Speaker 6: I have said this for years. If you do not
Speaker 6: fix immigration and cut it off, I mean cut it
Speaker 6: off at the bud You cannot fix anything else. Number one,
Speaker 6: you can't fix education because it's overwhelmed. Number Two, you
Speaker 6: can't tax health care. It's impossible.
Speaker 7: That is.
Speaker 6: All it does is put more and more burden on
Speaker 6: the tax thing citizen. That's I mean for just the
Speaker 6: wife and I and we're retired. Health insurance is one
Speaker 6: of our biggest costs. It's horrendous what we're paying. It's
Speaker 6: absolutely insane. And then of course transportation. You know, we
Speaker 6: happen to have a governor that thinks that I shouldn't
Speaker 6: be able to drive it to my wherever I go.
Speaker 6: I should take a bus or light rail which I've
Speaker 6: never been on in my entire life bike, or I
Speaker 6: should rine it by at seventy some years old. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's not gonna happen. So no, that these are the
Speaker 6: stupidest ideas that we're I've lived here all my life.
Speaker 6: I'm a native, you know, our family's homesteaded here. Wow. Wow,
Speaker 6: If you don't fix these problems, you can't fix water,
Speaker 6: you can't do anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, Mike, I think you're you're onto something and
Speaker 4: we have a hard break. We have to take call
Speaker 4: back if you want. But Mike, you're right, we have
Speaker 4: to fix immigration to fix anything else in America. Thank you,
Speaker 4: Mike from Westminster. I'm Christy Burton Brown. We have Heidigan
Speaker 4: All hosting The Dan Kaplis Show today. Call in over
Speaker 4: the break if you have thoughts eight five five four
Speaker 4: zero five eight two five five. When we come back,
Speaker 4: we'll talk more immigration specific changes in Denver coming up,
Speaker 4: and more topics.
Speaker 5: You're listening to The Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 8: Christopher Ay, the FBI director, is making this announcement right
Speaker 8: now in an all staff town hall with thousands of
Speaker 8: FBI employees across the country. He says now is his
Speaker 8: time to go. As you mentioned, he has a ten
Speaker 8: year term all FBI directors do. He was seven years
Speaker 8: into his tenure term and realistically he had two options
Speaker 8: wait to be fired by President elect Donald Trump because
Speaker 8: Trump announced Cash Bettel would take over or bow out before.
Speaker 8: He has chosen to bow out before. Ray is a
Speaker 8: former Republican lawyer, former DOJ prosecutor here in Washington, DC,
Speaker 8: hired by Trump in twenty seventeen after Trump fired James
Speaker 8: Comey after the entire Russia investigation probe, and Ray pretty
Speaker 8: much stayed out of the headlines as much as he
Speaker 8: could at least. But in twenty twenty two, former President
Speaker 8: Trump became increasingly angry when the FBI raided Mara Lago
Speaker 8: during the Classified Documents investigation.
Speaker 2: Of course, that was.
Speaker 8: Ordered by Attorney General Merrick Garland, who oversees the Justice Department,
Speaker 8: not Christopher Ray, but nonetheless, Christopher Ray saw future and
Speaker 8: saw that it is his time to go, so he
Speaker 8: will be stepping down as Cash Patel, the upcoming FBI director,
Speaker 8: if confirmed, is on Capitol Hill. So the director right
Speaker 8: now is making this announcement to an all staff meeting.
Speaker 8: We're waiting to get some wording of some of his comments.
Speaker 4: And that announcement earlier today made that the current head
Speaker 4: of the FBI is stepping down knowing exactly what's going
Speaker 4: to happen, that he would be fired by President Trump
Speaker 4: if he didn't make this move three years early, so.
Speaker 2: Definitely what he should be doing.
Speaker 4: I'm Christy Britton Brown here with Heidi Ganal co hosting
Speaker 4: the Dan Kapalist Show today, and Heidi, I think all
Speaker 4: of President Trump's appointees is super interesting, the people he's choosing.
Speaker 2: What do you think specifically about FBI though, I think
Speaker 2: it's the right move Cash Mattel is. He's a warrior.
Speaker 2: He's going to clean things up.
Speaker 3: And I liked when President Trump interviewed this last weekend
Speaker 3: with one of the liberal news outlets and she said,
Speaker 3: you know, are you really going to go after people
Speaker 3: for things that they've done? And he said, no, I'm
Speaker 3: going to let the people that I put in play
Speaker 3: use their judgment to do it. And he's putting the
Speaker 3: right people in the places to do that. Very unconventional picks,
Speaker 3: But one pick I'm really excited about is Colorado's own
Speaker 3: Chris Right as the head of the Department of Energy.
Speaker 2: And I've known Chris for a long time.
Speaker 3: He takes a very innovative, fascinating free market approach to energy.
Speaker 3: It's going to transform our country having Chris in that spot,
Speaker 3: and I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 4: I am too, And I think what's one of the
Speaker 4: other things that's exciting about Chris is that he.
Speaker 2: Still believes in conservation.
Speaker 4: Like we know as conservative that Teddy Roosevelt was the
Speaker 4: original conservationist. This isn't an issue that liberals should own.
Speaker 4: You can actually be pro American energy policies and pro conservation,
Speaker 4: Like who doesn't want clean air, clean water, clean and rivers,
Speaker 4: clean hikes for their kids and family to go on.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean we ignore American energy production.
Speaker 4: And I think actually one of the one of the
Speaker 4: best videos that's a little bit old, but that I
Speaker 4: saw Chris write in was when he was I think
Speaker 4: he was talking about North Faced products. Okay, it came
Speaker 4: back up so you could actually find this on if
Speaker 4: you're listening anyone to see it, you can find it
Speaker 4: on Google. Came back up when he was nominated by
Speaker 4: President Trump, and he talked about how these you know,
Speaker 4: clothing products that the wo clothing products that the lot
Speaker 4: people love actually uses American energy and all these things
Speaker 4: they want to ban are actually in their clothing products.
Speaker 4: And he just did a great job, fascinating example of
Speaker 4: how he talked it through and just made it really simple.
Speaker 4: I think calling out people who really have no facts,
Speaker 4: don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I know John was just on the
Speaker 3: show and he would never open his mouth about any
Speaker 3: of this, but I sure hope they bring John Fabricatory
Speaker 3: to washing Dacy or let him stay.
Speaker 2: Here and lead Operation Aurora.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that'd be fascinating John is such
Speaker 3: a great guy, and I'm really bombed he he isn't
Speaker 3: in Congress, but maybe that was a blessing in disguise,
Speaker 3: and maybe he's going.
Speaker 2: To help with the the whole.
Speaker 3: Effort to clean up our cities from illegal imigrants to
Speaker 3: our criminals. That has to be priority number one, and
Speaker 3: I think Trump is putting the right people on the
Speaker 3: seats on the bus to take care of that.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 4: And how do you make a great point that John
Speaker 4: is absolutely more than qualified to get a job like
Speaker 4: that and would put America first and Colorado citizens first.
Speaker 4: Where we see a lot of our elected officials in
Speaker 4: Denver and the Capitol putting non citizens and specifically people
Speaker 4: who are who are here illegally, Like I support people
Speaker 4: who are refugees, people who truly are seeking asylum, Like
Speaker 4: America is the land that welcomes people who have nowhere
Speaker 4: else to go.
Speaker 2: But I think just because so many.
Speaker 4: People dream of coming to America, it doesn't mean because
Speaker 4: you can cross the border illegally that you have a
Speaker 4: bigger right to be here than all the people in
Speaker 4: refugee camps in Burma and Africa and so many places
Speaker 4: across the world. Who cannot walk across the border so
Speaker 4: cannot get in. But because you can walk across the border,
Speaker 4: I'm happy that you want the American dream, but everyone
Speaker 4: should have equal access to the American dream. Should prioritize
Speaker 4: refugees and asylum seekers in my view, not gang members
Speaker 4: from Venezuela who are walking across the border with the
Speaker 4: current administration.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Christine.
Speaker 3: On the appointee front, I'm so excited to see what
Speaker 3: happens with Robert Kennedy Junior. And I've really gotten to
Speaker 3: be a fan of the MAHA movement make America healthy again,
Speaker 3: and I think that that's really going to bring a
Speaker 3: lot of people together, regardless of Democrat, Republican, Independent. And
Speaker 3: it was fascinating to see Jared Poulus come out supporting
Speaker 3: RFK Junior on social media and he got ripped to
Speaker 3: shreds by his party.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's it's so obvious that he's.
Speaker 3: Playing to try and be relevant, try and be on
Speaker 3: the national conversation so that he can run for president
Speaker 3: and twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Do you agree?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I do. I mean he was obviously hoping for a
Speaker 2: cabinet position.
Speaker 4: I think with Kamala Harris she didn't get in, so
Speaker 4: he doesn't get that to now he has to look
Speaker 4: for his spot. If you have thoughts on President Trump's appointees,
Speaker 4: you can call us eight five five four zero five
Speaker 4: eight two five five or text Dan five seven seven
Speaker 4: thirty nine. And how do you when you bring up
Speaker 4: RFK Junior, I actually, I mean I don't agree with
Speaker 4: him on abortion and the abortion pill.
Speaker 2: There's real problems with some of his views. But when
Speaker 2: we talk about keeping America.
Speaker 4: Healthy, making America healthy, I was talking to a reporter
Speaker 4: the other day and just saying, there's a lot of moms,
Speaker 4: a lot of suburban moms who are not conservative or Republican,
Speaker 4: but are united around the idea of making our kids
Speaker 4: healthy and nutrition and fitness.
Speaker 2: And we don't want the FDA.
Speaker 4: And government agencies CDC to lie to us about what
Speaker 4: is going in our kids' bodies, the labels on food.
Speaker 4: And it's not like I am anti vaccine, I'm not
Speaker 4: at all. I'm pro vaccine. Put my kids on a
Speaker 4: delayed schedule, but still be honest with people about the risks.
Speaker 4: Don't lie to moms who care about their kids. Don't
Speaker 4: tell them all these seed oils are healthy for their
Speaker 4: kids when there are better options, I think, and I
Speaker 4: think that's what he stands for is don't lie to moms,
Speaker 4: don't lie to Americans.
Speaker 2: Let us to make healthy choices if we want to.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: And I mean he's taken on some really really big
Speaker 3: environmental issues as a lawyer, and I think he's the
Speaker 3: right guy for the job. As evidenced by the pharmaceutical companies,
Speaker 3: the ag industries are terrified.
Speaker 2: But all the right people are scared.
Speaker 3: I really like Nicole Sheridan too, who he had selected
Speaker 3: as his vice president. First I didn't understand the pick,
Speaker 3: but the more I get to know her, the more
Speaker 3: I watch her, I really think she has a shot
Speaker 3: at running for governor in California.
Speaker 2: And I think she just speaks to moms.
Speaker 3: She's the mother of a child who was vaccine injured
Speaker 3: and really is advocating for transparency, like you said, just
Speaker 3: telling the truth about what's happening. And I think RFK
Speaker 3: Junior talking about the studies and the science around vaccines
Speaker 3: and how they aren't studied appropriately if you look at science,
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a really interesting conversation
Speaker 3: that we have going forward. And one of the key
Speaker 3: constituencies for me on the governor's race was moms who
Speaker 3: are really upset about what was happening with COVID and
Speaker 3: the lockdowns with their kids.
Speaker 2: Jeff co kids first.
Speaker 3: Paulus, who tries to act very libertarian, and this goes
Speaker 3: back to our discussion about bureaucracies, gave so much power
Speaker 3: to the public health departments in the.
Speaker 2: Counties, and that was the battle that happened with Jeff Co.
Speaker 3: But the moms were the ones who pushed back Democrat,
Speaker 3: Republican Independent. They joined together and they were able to
Speaker 3: get one of the leads of the public health fired
Speaker 3: because of her stance. But it was really Jared Paulus
Speaker 3: pulling the strings and pushing that down so that he
Speaker 3: didn't have to take responsibility for it. But that is
Speaker 3: the power of a mother who cares about her child's
Speaker 3: health and safety. And I think we're going to see
Speaker 3: mother's roar across the country when they start to find
Speaker 3: out how we have been lied to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and they're going to be unleashed. I think
Speaker 4: what the voice like UNA like RFK Junior. You're on
Speaker 4: the Dan Kapli Show with Christy Burton Brown and Heidi ganall.
Speaker 2: We have to take a.
Speaker 4: Break, but when we come back, we want to talk
Speaker 4: about the murder of the United Healthcare CEO and one
Speaker 4: of the Democrat representatives from calif Ffornia had to say
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
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Speaker 2: That was awesome. Thank you, Ryan. That was a nice
Speaker 2: and surprise.
Speaker 3: That was Chris Wright, who we were just talking about
Speaker 3: was appointed to the secretary or nominated for the Secretary
Speaker 3: of Education or Energy spot. Gosh, get your act together, Heidi.
Speaker 3: This is Heidi Ganal and Christy Burton Brown. We're co
Speaker 3: hosting the Dan Kapla Show while he's out at a trial. Christy,
Speaker 3: I wanted to shift conversation a little bit to the
Speaker 3: murder of the CEO of the healthcare system or United
Speaker 3: Health Insurance. There's so much coming out about the whole
Speaker 3: situation and the manifesto of the suspect.
Speaker 2: What's your latest take on this.
Speaker 4: Well, that's a great question, and I think we actually
Speaker 4: have a clip I should play from Representative Roe Conna
Speaker 4: from California, and he sort of tried to talk about
Speaker 4: this divide between can you believe murder's wrong but still
Speaker 4: basically hate healthcare system.
Speaker 2: So let's let's listen to him.
Speaker 9: It's possible to have two thoughts, one that murder and
Speaker 9: taking human life is wrong, that we can have sympathy
Speaker 9: for a father of two sons, and also to have
Speaker 9: a thought that being denied healthcare, as repeatedly happens in
Speaker 9: this country for cancer, treatment for heart disease, for diabetes
Speaker 9: is causing great anger, justifyed anger around America, and that
Speaker 9: we need to fix that broken healthcare system.
Speaker 6: We need to hold private.
Speaker 9: Insurance companies, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies accountable. We need to fight
Speaker 9: for Medicare for all, or at the very least fight
Speaker 9: to make sure that doctors prescriptions are getting filled or
Speaker 9: their treatments is getting filled and Medicare would cover it.
Speaker 2: Interesting clip.
Speaker 4: I think there's pieces of that I agree with, hidian
Speaker 4: pieces that I don't. I think largely I agree there
Speaker 4: should be a ton of reform in our healthcare system,
Speaker 4: and that pharmaceutical companies aren't being on and are overcharging
Speaker 4: and are honest about the prices. Price transparency's a huge issue.
Speaker 4: What I think I dislike is that when someone, a
Speaker 4: human being who has a family, is murdered in cold
Speaker 4: blood with a premeditated murder, we use that as an
Speaker 4: opportunity to talk about a political issue that needs to
Speaker 4: be solved. And yet when we see school shootings, and
Speaker 4: when we see those shooters also bring up the issue
Speaker 4: of mental health and being on drugs for mental health,
Speaker 4: we're not allowed to talk about that.
Speaker 2: That's a great point.
Speaker 3: I saw a tweet earlier about Brian Thompson, the one
Speaker 3: who was murdered, and it really humanizes the situation. He's
Speaker 3: from Jewel, Iowa, population twelve hundred, and he went on
Speaker 3: to lead one hundred and forty thousand employees in overseeing
Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty billion of revenue one of.
Speaker 2: The world's most important companies.
Speaker 3: Get this, His mom worked as a beautician, his dad
Speaker 3: at a green elevator. I bet they were really proud
Speaker 3: when he graduated valedictorian of his fifty person.
Speaker 2: High school class.
Speaker 3: And he played basketball and trombone. He was homecoming king.
Speaker 3: But he worked in the soybean fields and the meat
Speaker 3: processing plants during the summer. You know, this is this
Speaker 3: is someone who lived the American dream and maybe he
Speaker 3: was trying to make good faith efforts to change the
Speaker 3: healthcare system for the better. We don't know, but I
Speaker 3: think it's horrifying that they are like making this guy
Speaker 3: a superstar, the guy that murdered him a superstar.
Speaker 2: That's just incredibly wrong.
Speaker 4: Well right, and so many people on Twitter talking about
Speaker 4: like how the guy looks and how young he is,
Speaker 4: and when do we idolize murderers like that's super troubling,
Speaker 4: especially when young people start doing it, which is happening
Speaker 4: on social media right now. And again like I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: would you kill someone I don't, and you kill an
Speaker 4: innocent person, It's not a measure of ooh, did they
Speaker 4: ever do anything wrong in their life? Should they have
Speaker 4: reformed their company, should they have supported different policies. That's
Speaker 4: not how we judge whether or not someone should be
Speaker 4: murdered in cold blood. And so I think when you
Speaker 4: have a different standard, oh well, we don't like this
Speaker 4: person who was killed because we assume they supported all
Speaker 4: these policies we don't support and want change. Therefore, we
Speaker 4: can partially justify them being shot, like that's what's happening,
Speaker 4: and it's so wrong.
Speaker 3: Well, and it's such a contrast to the Daniel I
Speaker 3: believe his last name's Penny in the subway trial, he
Speaker 3: was let off rightly, so oh yeah, I mean, who
Speaker 3: doesn't want to know that someone brave like that is
Speaker 3: going to step in and help us if we're attacked
Speaker 3: on a subway system. I can't believe the contrast between
Speaker 3: these two situations. I think it's really ironic that both
Speaker 3: are being discussed and talked about, and of course it's
Speaker 3: becoming political, like, oh, the murder over here is a
Speaker 3: good guy, says a lot of the people on the left,
Speaker 3: and the hero on the subway is a bad.
Speaker 2: Guy, says the people on the left. And we're kind
Speaker 2: of the opposite.
Speaker 3: But it's just so frustrating how every single thing turns
Speaker 3: political these days. But I do believe it's a good
Speaker 3: example of why the country overwhelmingly voted for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: They are full of they're tired of this crap.
Speaker 3: Like they want things to change. They want to go
Speaker 3: back to the way things were, when right wasn't wrong
Speaker 3: and wrong wasn't right, and things made sense. And I
Speaker 3: think the jury decision in his case, Daniel Penny's decision
Speaker 3: was the right thing.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think so too.
Speaker 4: And if you evaluate the two situations, which is an
Speaker 4: interesting point, Heidi, I think you see that what Daniel
Speaker 4: Penny did, for one thing, he was not intentionally killing anyone.
Speaker 2: It was not premeditated.
Speaker 4: He was responding in real time to events that ended
Speaker 4: up saving a lot of people's lives. The women and children,
Speaker 4: and some of them who testified in his trial believed
Speaker 4: he was saving lives, and he said that was his intention.
Speaker 4: You see this other guy who murdered the United Healthcare CEO,
Speaker 4: and you know, okay, let's imagine that he might say, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm stopping the healthcare system from hurting people. Really, murdering
Speaker 4: a CEO is going to change the whole system. And
Speaker 4: that's why we need.
Speaker 2: One of the many reasons we need better education for.
Speaker 4: Young people in our society is they need to know
Speaker 4: the real way to change things, and it's not by
Speaker 4: taking out someone with a vigial antieism act.
Speaker 2: That doesn't change anything.
Speaker 4: Ceo actually doesn't set the entire policy of a healthcare company,
Speaker 4: and people should know that and going and murdering one
Speaker 4: person doesn't reform a system.
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Christie, and we need to take a break, but it's
Speaker 3: a lot of fun hosting this with you. We've got
Speaker 3: so many topics. We'll be back right after the break.
Speaker 3: This is Heidi Ganal and Christy Burton Brown filling in
Speaker 3: on the Dan Kaplis Show.