WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:10.919 For some people, family are the ones they can always 2 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:15.160 rely on. However, that is not always the case for everybody. 3 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:19.719 For some they live with tyrants, bullies, and monsters straight 4 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:23.440 out of a nightmare. Today we talk about the murder 5 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:26.239 of two young girls who had their life taken away 6 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:30.320 by their own father because he didn't approve of their 7 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:36.719 American lifestyle. This is the case of Yasir abdel Zayid 8 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:42.119 and the Honor killings. My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and 9 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:45.399 you're listening to Wicked and Grim true crime podcast. 10 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:55.159 The following podcast material intended for a mature audience listener discretion. 11 00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:16.560 Ad Is it just me? Or is it just warmer 12 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:19.000 all around right now? For November? 13 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.200 Yeah? I mean, wasn't it like I think it was 14 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:25.000 like thirteen degrees here Celsius, Yeah. 15 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:27.280 Which is insane. And I saw a post from like 16 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:29.120 we all know that one guy in I think it's 17 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:31.439 New York dude with a sign. Oh yeah, I love 18 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:33.959 he holds up the cardboard sign with just stuff. He 19 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.799 had a post the other day and it was it 20 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:40.920 should be colder right now. I agree though it seems 21 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:41.599 like it should be. 22 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:46.280 I generally like warmer temperature, so I'm kind of okay 23 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.319 with it, but we're also in a stint right now 24 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:50.239 where we need coldertures. 25 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:54.519 Yeah, but like we're in northern British Columbia, Canada and 26 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:58.040 it's well, we're over a week into November and it's 27 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:00.959 raining right now. That's not normal. 28 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:04.760 I feel like there's been some times though where we 29 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.840 don't really get snow until even Christmas. Though. 30 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:10.800 Yes, but we'll get cold snaps and it'll be cold 31 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:12.240 for well and then it'll warm up for a few 32 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:15.599 days and it'll melt, but not just consistently warm. 33 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:16.159 Yeah. 34 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.360 I don't know. I think as a whole, the average 35 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.120 temperature right now is just higher for whatever reason, it's 36 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:22.800 a warm year. I think, at least a warm start 37 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:25.240 to this or well end of the year. 38 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.919 Well, yeah, I haven't really worn my winter cult much, 39 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:29.240 so I guess that is saying something. 40 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:31.680 It does say something. We also had a lot of 41 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:34.479 you guys say something when you emailed and messaged us 42 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.719 regarding your thoughts between Halloween and Christmas and the battle 43 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.319 that happens. Line seems to be pretty drawn right down 44 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:42.719 the middle. I'm being honest. So I don't know. 45 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:46.439 I feel like there's it's some people have their stuff up, 46 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:49.919 some people don't. Some people are waiting for Remembrance Day 47 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:53.280 and stuff. So there's a little, a little sway in there. 48 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:56.080 Yeah, but it seems like it's like, I don't know, 49 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.960 it's just everyone's just doing their own thing, which I like. 50 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:00.840 And it seems like it's like a fifty to fifty. 51 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:02.919 It's like, yeah, some do, some don't, and no one's 52 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:05.319 really concerned with the other. No one understands the other, 53 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:07.800 but no one's really concerned with the other side, you know, 54 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:08.599 which is cool. 55 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:10.840 I did order us a new Christmas decoration. 56 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:14.919 Oh great, you're welcome. Ah, what is it? 57 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:19.120 It's like this rustic little vintage like bell on him. 58 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:22.199 It suits are decre like really well, it's like gold, 59 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.479 these little bells, Like it's really pretty. 60 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:26.240 I have a feeling I could have made it for 61 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:28.680 way cheaper. Can't. Couldn't. I have gone to like a 62 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.120 second hand before I found some bells, and it wasn't 63 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:32.039 very expensive. 64 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:33.960 But I will admit that the shipping was a bit 65 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:35.039 more than I anticipated. 66 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:37.680 And I was like, oh, fine, it sounds cool. 67 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:41.439 But it was eighteen dollars. That's not a lot of money. 68 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:44.719 I mean, depending on what item you purchased, what it 69 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:46.400 looks like, how big it is, how the quality? 70 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:48.879 Well, we'll see. But also like you have to consider time, right, 71 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:51.039 your time, that's true, time is money. 72 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.520 Anyways, we digress. We got a case and a half 73 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:57.879 to get into today. This one caught my attention strictly 74 00:03:57.919 --> 00:03:59.960 by the title, and then when I dove into it, 75 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:01.240 I was like, holy shit. 76 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:04.039 So so we're in for a doozy. 77 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.919 We are in for a doozy. And this is a 78 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:11.000 two parter. Okay, so we're going to go into a 79 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.919 lot of the family history before we go into the 80 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:17.959 actual crime. And one of the cool things is there 81 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:21.040 is a documentary released only a few days ago. I 82 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:23.399 think it was like ten days ago now, where they 83 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:27.079 actually interview the father of this family who committed the 84 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:29.600 crime and some of the stuff he has to say 85 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:31.680 on his thoughts on it. It's kind of wild, but 86 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:35.800 we'll we'll definitely get into that more into part two. Okay, 87 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:37.040 are you ready for this one? 88 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:37.639 Yeah? 89 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:38.600 Are you going to do it? 90 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.160 I was thinking we needed to thank patrons, but that's 91 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:42.160 that's a Tuesday thing. 92 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:44.439 That's a Tuesday I was waiting for that, but no, 93 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.600 that's on Tuesday. We are not Tuesday right now, so. 94 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.120 Yeah, happy Friday. We can just dive right in. 95 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:53.160 End of the week. Okay, let's dive right in. Like 96 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:56.839 you say. So, I wrote a little intro specifically on 97 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:01.120 my my perception on this case, so let me let 98 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:03.800 me read my thoughts and intro. It was almost like 99 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:05.519 a little diary entry that I want to lose my 100 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:08.959 thought process at this time. Okay, So I recently crossed 101 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:11.519 it came across a case that immediately piqued my interest. 102 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.079 It stood out amongst all the other stories on my 103 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.759 list to cover because not it's not your typical crime case. Yes, 104 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:20.839 it involves murder. However, the story surrounding it is much 105 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:25.240 different than anything you've covered before on this podcast. Up 106 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:28.600 until now, it's been murdered for love, hatred, belief systems, 107 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.160 and even the sheer thrill of it. But this case 108 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.720 is regarding something called an honor killing, and we will 109 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:36.759 get into what exactly that is with all the details. 110 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:41.920 It is kind of along the belief system portion, but 111 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:45.519 it's a fine fine line when you're talking about beliefs, 112 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:51.800 and this is not really beliefs but kind of belief driven. 113 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:54.480 At the same time, like is it okay? 114 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.040 Am I able to say, like a sacrifice of sorts? 115 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:02.480 No? No, definitely not no idea what we're covering. Well, 116 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:06.279 let's get let's get into the actual story. But I 117 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:10.240 couldn't find a whole lot of information regarding this individual, 118 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:13.279 Yeseir Abdel said, But what I do know is that 119 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:17.199 he was born in Sinhai, Egypt. He was the oldest 120 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:19.680 of five children in his family, with his younger three 121 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:23.360 brothers and younger one sister. Now, yes Sir had come 122 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:26.639 to United States on a student visa in nineteen eighty three, 123 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:30.040 but he wasn't the only member of his family now 124 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.199 living in the States either. It seemed like all of 125 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:35.399 his siblings did, and potentially his parents as well. So 126 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:37.600 as far as how many had come to move to 127 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:40.360 North America and how they all did not too certain, 128 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:44.160 But regardless, Yesir was now living in Texas with at 129 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:48.680 least some of his family, and they were all kind 130 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:50.720 of working, at least some of them were working at 131 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:54.000 this small convenience store next to some apartment buildings. And 132 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:57.199 it was here that Yesir's younger brother Yasin, would meet 133 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.839 a girl by the name of Patricia Owens who often 134 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.160 went by the name of Tissy. I just love that 135 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:05.160 fucking nip nickname. 136 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:06.040 I actually did too. 137 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:08.560 I haven't heard that right because they're talking Patricia. You're 138 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:12.920 thinking like pat Patty, Patty as Trisha. Yeah, but Tissy, Yeah, 139 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.439 that's different and I love it. Yeah yeah. Now, Tissy 140 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.519 had several siblings, though the exact number varies in accounts 141 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:22.879 between the reporting sources, but the sources often described her 142 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:26.079 as having at least six or more siblings. Okay, now, 143 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.439 she grew up in a fairly poor household. Their family 144 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:30.360 didn't have a whole lot to say, at least to 145 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.920 say the least, but they did their best. Now, one day, 146 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.600 while at the convenience store next to their apartment, Tissy 147 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:40.600 was introduced to Ya Scene as he was working his shift. Now, 148 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:43.319 the two eventually started talking and came a little bit more, 149 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.079 and they started dating when Tissy was only fourteen years old. 150 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.879 Now it's fairly early on their relationship, and Ya Scene 151 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:52.639 began mentioning the idea of marriage. The two were both 152 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:55.240 young and close in age. I do want to mention that. 153 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:57.920 So it seemed like puppy love talk sort of thing, 154 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:03.000 although you've seen, however, was much more serious than puppy love. 155 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.240 He even approached Tissy's dad and requisitioned the idea that 156 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:10.800 he signed the guardian consent documentations on the marriage farms 157 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:17.279 to make it all happen. Now, Tissy's dad agreed, He agreed, 158 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:20.199 he said he would. However, the marriage would actually never 159 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:23.000 come to fruition. The young couple broke up and went 160 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:26.319 their separate ways within the year. Now, this wasn't the 161 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:29.240 end of the family's relationship between each other though, as 162 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:31.160 you see her would soon step in and get in 163 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:34.960 dating Tissy instead of his younger brother. You see, at 164 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.600 this time, Tissy was now fifteen years old, and you 165 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:40.360 see her was much older at twenty nine years O. 166 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:41.879 Holy shit, Okay, yeah, he was. 167 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.279 Nearly double her age with a fourteen year gap and 168 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:46.000 she's a minor. 169 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:49.000 Well yeah, I'm like at that age difference whatever, but 170 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:50.720 at that age that ain't legal. 171 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.120 No, And I do want to say one thing, and 172 00:08:53.519 --> 00:09:00.440 I am not one to really judge other cultures, but 173 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:04.960 in this documentary I mentioned earlier you're seeing sorry you 174 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:08.039 see her was talking about that gate age gap. That's 175 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:10.440 one of the first things they really touch on. And 176 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:12.799 it's a quick little question. He kind of just brushes 177 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:14.960 onto the rug saying it's like, it's no big deal. 178 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:18.039 Where I came from, it's pretty cool, Okay. So it's 179 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:21.039 a common practice in his culture. Doesn't mean it's a 180 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.799 correct practice or something that should be practiced, But to him, 181 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:28.679 it's no big deal because that happens frequently. Apparently. 182 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.320 Yeah, but the end, I mean, maybe things have changed 183 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:34.320 over the years. Like I don't know, because you said 184 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:36.519 this was like the eighties, so I don't necessarily know. 185 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.720 I mean, it still would have been illegal in the 186 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:42.200 eighties and in the United States, I'm assuming, but like 187 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.240 they're living in the United States right now, so that 188 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:46.639 isn't okay exactly. 189 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:48.960 Yeah, even if it is over in your own country 190 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:51.279 and that is common, that still doesn't mean it's okay. 191 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:54.480 There's people in other countries who stone other people to death, 192 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:59.480 doesn't mean that's okay to say, yeah. Yeah, now, still 193 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:02.279 the two you would get married. You see, her approached 194 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:05.120 Tizzy's father much like his younger brother did, but this 195 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:08.519 time he was met with hesitation, and for obvious reasons. 196 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.279 The father you mean, yeah, you see her was with 197 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:15.039 hesitations from the father. Oh okay, but year said he 198 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:17.559 loved Tissy, and you could support her in their new 199 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:20.440 life together. He pretty much like saying, I'm going to 200 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:22.720 devote myself. I can take care of her all this 201 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:25.679 sort of stuff. And as you may recall, Tissy's family 202 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:28.200 was not very well off. So the idea of their 203 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:30.000 daughter being able to have a new life where she's 204 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:34.799 looked after, including financially and everything, it's all that. Honestly, 205 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:37.480 this family was hoping for with their children, right, find 206 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:40.360 a way out and you know, go out and find 207 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:41.799 a life for themselves. 208 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:43.600 Like that would be a big draw for the. 209 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:47.840 Dad one hundred percent. Now the father was allegedly not 210 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:52.919 so sure, but the mother was sold on the idea 211 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:55.279 because of her daughter getting you know, getting away from 212 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:57.240 it all that sort of thing. And so the mother 213 00:10:57.279 --> 00:11:00.279 and father kind of talked and she convinced him that yes, 214 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:02.519 they would give the blessing for them to be married. 215 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.080 Now you see a promise Tissy the world. And so 216 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:09.080 in February of nineteen eighty seven, the two got married. 217 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:12.799 Soon after the couple had tied the knot you see, 218 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.240 her then went and got his green cart, his American 219 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.480 citizenship and was no longer relying on the student visa. 220 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.440 That he once had. But that's not the only thing 221 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.039 that happens. Soon after the marriage, either around seven months 222 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:26.960 or so into their marriage, things began to change with 223 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:30.159 you seear it became more controlling over Tissy and he 224 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:33.120 didn't want her to see her family members anymore because 225 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.879 they were Americans and Americans aren't good. 226 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:39.279 Oh wow. Yeah, so he kind of used them to 227 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:42.200 get what he wanted and then for them to sign 228 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:45.240 off or whatever, and then now wants to ditch them. 229 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.039 Yeah kind of pretty much. Yeah, what it seems like. 230 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:53.039 He reportedly became more and more abusive as well, things 231 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:56.120 like kicking Tissy to wake her up, dumping things on 232 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.200 the floor only to stand back and watch as he 233 00:11:58.240 --> 00:11:59.120 made her clean it up. 234 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:00.639 Wow on an asshole? 235 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:05.200 Yeah no, His actions revile. Basically put it short, his 236 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:07.639 words that he talked and spewed were poison. As he 237 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.440 told Tizzy he never should have married an American. Oh yeah, 238 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.600 but despite their down, downhill relationship, Tizzy didn't know what 239 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:17.480 else to do and continued the marriage to this man. 240 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:18.799 Well she's quite young. 241 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:24.039 Yeah. Well. Also, shortly after they got married, Tizzy would 242 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.360 become pregnant and she would give birth to their first 243 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:29.759 child when she was only sixteen years old. They named 244 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:33.120 their son Islam, and when he was born on March second, 245 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:37.240 nineteen eighty eight, he was in the end. They would 246 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.399 soon welcome two more children into the world, two more 247 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:44.120 to May. First their daughter Amina, who was born in 248 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:47.840 nineteen eighty eight when Tizzy was seventeen, and Sarah in 249 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:52.320 nineteen ninety when she was eighteen. Though Tizzy now had 250 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:55.320 three beautiful children in her life, she was left living 251 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:58.120 a harsh reality due to her husband she was married to. 252 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:01.720 He would bounce around between jobs, mostly driving taxi, but 253 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.480 would often not work at all. But while all this 254 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.399 was going on, you see, her had six different affairs 255 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:11.600 with Tizzy that she was aware of, leaving her heart 256 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.480 broken but still dedicated to her family. 257 00:13:14.679 --> 00:13:20.159 Holy shit, yeah this guy, yeah, youw. 258 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:23.360 It seemed like Tizzy had married a monster. But this 259 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:29.960 was only the tip of the iceberg. So you see, 260 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.559 you see, had a history of violence before he came 261 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:35.519 to the United States. He had apparently gotten into an 262 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.879 argument with a coworker. And this information comes directly from 263 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:42.600 Tizzy herself when she's talking in an interview. It left 264 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:45.039 him extremely angry and looking for a way to take 265 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.639 his anger out on this individual. So he sat out 266 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:51.159 in his car and waited for the coworker to finish 267 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:53.799 their shift. And when they did, they walked out from 268 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:56.320 the workplace and you see her ran the man over, 269 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:03.200 not once, but several times, killing him or what the 270 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:06.639 man died and you see your father reportedly solved the 271 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:09.320 incident by paying off the family of the deceased. 272 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:14.600 Oh gosh, oh wow, that is like that's a little 273 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:16.679 bit extreme rage issues there. 274 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.840 That Yeah, that's uh, that's next level. That's a lot. Yeah, 275 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.200 that's not a simple like, hey, my name's Kyle. I 276 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:27.080 punched a hole in the drywall, Like you know, that's 277 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.360 that's rage. But this is this. 278 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.879 Is uncontrollable because he actually sat there for some time 279 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.200 in his vehicle, plotting probably what he was going to do, 280 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:40.759 and waited and at no point changed his mind, right. 281 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:44.000 Correct, He just when he took saw his moment, he 282 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:47.120 took it, and then he took it again and then again. 283 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:49.960 Yeah. 284 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:51.720 Now this was only the beginning of what you see 285 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:54.919 he was ultimately capable of. Though. There is a report 286 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.039 that was submitted to Child Protective Services that by Tizzy 287 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.759 regarding their two daughters. Now I've read some of these 288 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.000 reports and they are graphic and it's extremely hard to 289 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.600 get through, so I won't divulge the exact details of 290 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:11.360 what it contains. But in nineteen ninety eight, Amina and Sarah, 291 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.879 who were approximately eight and nine years old at the time, 292 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:17.559 accused their father of sexual abuse and rape, which prompted 293 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:19.360 an investigation by authorities. 294 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:21.480 Oh geez okay. 295 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:25.639 Initially, the report led to an investigation, and Tizzy supported 296 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:29.039 the girl's claims and left Y see her for a time. However, 297 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:32.320 she would later withdraw her support of the accusations and 298 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:35.519 return to him when there was claims of the girls 299 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:39.960 making it all up. There's a lot to go on 300 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:44.080 with this, the girls making up the claims. The family 301 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:48.840 talks about the girls being told by certain individuals, and 302 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:52.679 it's seems like it's always changing because no one really knows. 303 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:56.600 But there's thoughts that the girls were told to say 304 00:15:56.639 --> 00:16:00.120 that they were lying to take it all back to 305 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:02.639 redact it most likely out of fear. 306 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.039 Okay, so it's not for. 307 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:11.080 Sure, but it well. Ultimately, there was medical examinations and 308 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:14.240 interviews that were done with both of the girls. The 309 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:17.600 results were inconclusive and could not determine if an assault 310 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:19.360 had or had not occurred. 311 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:24.440 Hmm okay. Interesting. 312 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:28.440 Yeah. So, while this story does focus on well, you know, 313 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:30.039 before I could carry on a little bit, I do 314 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:32.399 want to touch on this a bit more. It's not 315 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:34.679 stuff that I've written down, but it's because I have 316 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:37.840 read these reports, and you have two young girls who 317 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:42.279 their stories sound quite corroborated and are very descriptive and 318 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:49.240 detailed on what occurred. To me, I don't think they're 319 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:52.720 making this up. No, and I don't think that them saying, oh, yeah, 320 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:53.960 you know what, we just made this up. I do 321 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.120 think that that's most likely being redacted because they're being 322 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:01.559 told to most likely out of fear. I fully believe 323 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.200 that these two little girls were being assaulted by this man. 324 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:07.240 Well yeah, because at that age too, do you even know, 325 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:10.559 you know, would you be able to describe things to 326 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:13.640 that extent, esaysially. Back then, I feel like. 327 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:15.559 You don't have access to the internet sort of thing. Yeah, 328 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:17.200 you can't quickly google things or whatever. 329 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:19.680 Yeah, oh that's terrible. 330 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.519 So while this story does focus a lot on you see, he, 331 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:25.960 it's not about him, though. It is about his two 332 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:28.200 daughters who would ultimately suffer at the hands of this 333 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:34.039 strict and disturbed father. Amina and Sarah were both vibrant, intelligent, 334 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:36.920 and ambitious young women who aspired to live fulfilled lives 335 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:41.000 beyond the confines of their strict household, despite the hardships 336 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:44.279 that they face. Their friends and teachers described them as warm, talented, 337 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:48.559 and strong spirits. Amina was confident, She was driven and 338 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.799 academically talented as well. She excelled in her studies and 339 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:55.000 had a particular interest in history and literature. She was 340 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:59.359 also athletic, participating in taekwondo, and dreamed of going to college. 341 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.480 Was protective of her younger sister Sarah, and despite the 342 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:06.440 fear that she felt in home, remained determined to pursue 343 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:09.079 her goals and maintain hope for a better life one day. 344 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:14.000 Sarah was born in March twenty second, nineteen ninety. Well, 345 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.079 I just realized I didn't have Amina's birthday in here. 346 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:19.960 Well you had said it at one point though, Okay, okay. 347 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:24.240 But Amina was born a year earlier. I believe it 348 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:26.680 was actually a March as well, if I'm not mistaken. But anyways, 349 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:29.359 Sarah was born March twenty second, nineteen ninety and was 350 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:32.640 known for her kind, sweet and gentle demeanor. She was compassionate, 351 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:36.039 always willing to support her friends, and she too excelled 352 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:39.000 in school. Although quieter and more reserved than Amina, Sarah 353 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.759 had a great sense of humor and a caring nature. 354 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:44.160 She loved spending time with her friends and family, and 355 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.039 wanted to pursue a life that reflected her own choices 356 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:50.839 and aspirations. Now, even in their teenage years, the two 357 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:53.640 sisters were very close and shared a strong bond together. 358 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:57.240 They were each other's greatest allies as they navigated the 359 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:01.799 difficult home life with their father looming over there every 360 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:02.440 every move. 361 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:05.559 Okay, as you're just kind of saying this as like 362 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.920 processing too, because the father also, like you said earlier, 363 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:11.720 cheated like six times or something right. 364 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.519 Over the course of Tissies and his marriage. Yes, yeah, 365 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:18.000 six affairs that Tizzy is aware of that. 366 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:21.720 Yeah, so there's probably more, which kind of shows that 367 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:23.960 he does, like have a problem, right. 368 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:28.359 Yeah, you know, definitely. So the two girls did confide 369 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:30.839 in their friends and some teachers about the abusive environment 370 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:34.200 created by their father father, but they were very reserved 371 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.079 about these conversations as well. They never told the whole 372 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.160 truth and only revealed tiny portions of who their dad 373 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.000 really was because they were well terrified of him and 374 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:44.640 didn't want this to get back right, and so they 375 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:46.559 were very strict and kept in line. So if they 376 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:51.519 did say something, it was a very watered down version 377 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:53.640 of it, to say the least. 378 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:55.720 Hmm, that's so sad. 379 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.880 That's so sad it is now. You see, he's ruling 380 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.400 controlling behavior was partially rooted in his traditional beliefs about 381 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:07.000 gender roles and family honor. After all, he did hail 382 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.240 from Egypt, as I mentioned earlier, originally where life is 383 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:12.599 for many is much different than we experience in Canada, 384 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:14.759 so I could never understand truly what it was like 385 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:17.480 for him to grow up. But as I also mentioned, 386 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:20.920 it doesn't mean it's okay to perpetuate. But one of 387 00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:24.880 the most evident aspects of his control was his constant 388 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:29.119 surveillance and monitoring of his daughters. Yese here would often 389 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:32.119 drive them to and from school to oversee their movements 390 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:34.759 and ensure they did not interact with people he disapproved of, 391 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:40.680 sometimes even following them to confirm his compliance. This compliance 392 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:42.440 or of his rulings. 393 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:44.839 I'm having trouble like listening to this because I just 394 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:46.799 despise him. 395 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:51.519 You should, because yeah, yeah, he's kind of a piece 396 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:51.839 of shit. 397 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.759 Mm hmm. So it's really sounding like that. I think 398 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:56.559 this is probably just the tip of the iceberg. 399 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:59.480 Yeah, we're we're only really getting just starting to get there, 400 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:01.319 so buck up. 401 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:04.119