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Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist

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Our guest today is Representative Tim Burchett, joining us live

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from the sewer as he fittingly describes the fetid pool

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of corruption that is Washington.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, sir, Thank you so much for joining us

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in the Federalist Radio Hour.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on. Brother.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan, absolutely, and we are a big

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fan of the good work that you are constantly doing

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in said fetid swamp. Today, as we speak, you are

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about to at least go into debate. I'm not sure

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if there will be a vote on the floor if

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that's been settled on the Save America Act. Can you

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give us an update on where things stand, at least

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in the House on that very important election integrity reform measure.

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Speaker 4: Well, apparently it's been moved to tomorrow. But okay, now

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we've just been told.

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Speaker 3: But the bill is really simple.

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Speaker 4: It just says that you have to you have to

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prove American citizenship birth. I guess if you will. You know,

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when you play Little League baseball, you have to show

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a birth certificate and you go and then you go

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to vote, you have to show a photo ID, a

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valid photo ID. Now you buy some over the counter

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cough medicines, you have to do that.

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Speaker 3: You go to an R rated movie, you have to

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do that.

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Speaker 4: You buy a six pack of beer, you buy a

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can of skull, you have to show a dad gum ID.

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And then Schumer comes out and says that it's racist,

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that it's you know that we're doing this, And to me,

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it's the exact opposite. It's racist for him to say

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that that our minority community could not produce a valid identification.

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That is just bogus. And all they wanted to do

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is protect corruption. And they're approving our point with these

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stolen elections by their constant fighting over this. This is

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something that pulls through the roof. Eighty ninety percent Republicans

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support it, something like sixty five to seventy percent Democrats

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support it. The only reason you would not support this

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is if you were just completely ignorant, which I don't

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think they are, or you're you know that elections will

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be stolen with this and you need that to stay

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in power. I suspect it's the latter.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's I guess what inquiring minds want to know.

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As you mentioned, this is an issue that virtually everyone supports.

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It is your most definitive eighty twenty split out there.

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And when you have something like this issue, such a

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rare issue where Democrats and Republicans can come together, why

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is it that the minority party would fight and fight

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so desperately. I mean, they are fighting like they are

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a cornered rabbitous raccoon to try to get out of

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this vote that they do not want to take. And

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they might just be successful in the Senate, where they

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have not been in the House.

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Speaker 3: That's completely correct. We've got some.

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Speaker 4: Republicans, I guess they're Republicans claiming to want to block

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it for whatever reason, and they don't really give a reason.

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And that's another thing we've got We've got to fix.

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Twelve percent of the population votes forty percent of so

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called evangelical Christians do not vote. Thirty percent of gun

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owners do not vote. You know, these are people that

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this kind of thing, but they just don't vote. They just,

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for whatever reason. I think it's more arrogance than anything else,

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they do not vote. And we're going to lose our country.

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This is not this is not some tenfool hat wearing

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kind of synopsis. This is the reality because if we

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lose them, if we leave the Republicans, that is, we

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lose the midterms, Washington d c. Will become the fifty

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first state. They'll stack the Supreme Court, they'll reverse all

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the borders things that we had, the reverse every one

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of President Trump's executive orders, and frankly, we don't have

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the guts to pass most of them, which is a disgrace.

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of down to one in the House. And the reason

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he's tried to fulfill that the border, going after bad people,

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not putting up with these third world dictators thumbing their

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nose at America, things like that. But Congress is just

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bogged down in their usual arrogance, and some of them,

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Speaker 4: We're forty trillion dollar argent debt and we need to

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Speaker 1: Well, as you mentioned, I mean, it's another existential election

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the House, and should they take back the Senate, it's

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not only impeachment for Donald Trump. We know that's coming

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Donald Trump and removal of a president that a majority

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of Americans voted for in twenty twenty four and the

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vast majority of those to do what Donald Trump is

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doing right now. So, as you say, if Democrats take control,

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you know you mentioned Washington, d C. Is the fifty

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first state, maybe bad Bunny becomes a governor of the

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state of Puerto Rico at that time. I mean, you know,

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Democrats will do anything to consolidate power. And again the

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word is desperate, because that twenty thirty census is not

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going to look real good for them if Republicans in

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the majority can get their act together. But this is

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the question you kind of touched upon it. The reality

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is those gun owners that don't come out to vote,

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those evangelical Christians that don't come out to vote, many

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of them don't come out to vote because the people

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who call themselves conservatives in Congress are anything but. And

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you've got to give them a reason to come out

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to vote. And if you can't even and I say

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this generically, you know that, Tim, But if the Senate

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cannot get its act together and pass this basic election

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integrity reform that eighty percent of Americans want, what reason

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do Republicans conservative Republicans have to come out in twenty

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Speaker 4: They couldn't send it more any better, couldn't send it

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any better.

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Speaker 3: We are I just I'm very frustrated. Brother. If we

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do not pay attention to what's going on around us,

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will it will end?

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Speaker 4: It will end, And as we know it, and I don't,

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not get motivated and start talking to their you know,

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their congregations or whatever. I don't I don't want churches

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out there endorsing anybody. But again, if they just preach

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the gospel, I think if they talk against what's wrong,

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they talk against things like transgender surgery, which is mutilation

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of children, and you know, it's like we're we're sacrificing

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these kids on the altar of Wokotopia or something.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's it's.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable that we've allowed ourselvesselves to come this far. But

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good plan all along there.

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Speaker 3: They've infiltrated our schools.

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Speaker 4: They they've they named me one thing that the left

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has gotten a hold of that they've made better. Look

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at healthcare, Look at our schools. Those are two things

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that are just going down the tubes. When when Jimmy

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the and they made it a cabinet level position, and

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then they started pumping the money to it, we were

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at number one in the world.

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Speaker 3: Now after all that off, after.

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Speaker 4: Trillions of dollars of investment, we're twenty second or twenty

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third in the world. And it's just their plan. And

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if you attack it, oh, you're against education.

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Speaker 3: No I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I want our kids to be educated. I don't want

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them full of this liberal garbage. And it's very tough

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to get a majority of Republicans up here to you know,

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they'll do it on election day, the day.

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Speaker 3: Before the election, they're all about it.

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Speaker 4: Then they get up here and they settle in and

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it's just And I'll give you another example. All rights

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goos non government organizations.

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Speaker 3: They are anything but.

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Speaker 4: Non government organizations, completely funded by the government.

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Speaker 4: A legitimate maybe a legitimate group that was formed during

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George W. Bush's times or something, and they metamorphosize into

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different things. But they you see a billionaire put a

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million dollars into one of these groups, and then then

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some unelected bureaucrats sees that and it's got a great name,

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you know, feed the children, and they will literally fund

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those things. And you've got members of Congress whose wives

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and or girlfriends work for these organizations. And then where

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are we at. We're at it elon Musk. They've probably

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stolen over a trillion dollars, and I have no reason

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to doubt that after since I'm then the chairman of

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the Doge Subcommittee, and which I've told people it's the

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legislation forward and I'm going to sponsor it, and I've

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stated and I will publicly embarrass the chairman who try

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Speaker 1: We hear a lot, especially online, about conservatives attacking other conservatives.

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Sometimes it even seems like conservatives are fighting each other

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Conservatism is at a crossroads, which is why all conservatives

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need Conservative Crossroads listen today. That is good because, as

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you mentioned before, the account is continuously growing higher. It

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is continuously more and more untenable, and we are continuing

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to put that on the backs of our grandchildren and

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our grandchildren's grandchildren, and that is an absolute sin. But

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here is the question, Congressman, and that is we talked

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and that is what's the alternative. And I think maybe

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the better question is do self satisfied Republicans rhinos whatever

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hearing where you have these grand standing, lying, demonizing Democrats

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just hammering the hell out of federal immigration enforcement officers.

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People who are sworn to uphold the laws of the land.

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People are constantly breaking the laws of the land to

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higher political aspirations. That is Eric Swallwell of California, who

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Speaker 2: If you're staying on to lead ICE as a decision,

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and I've read your background, you have a decorated career,

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call otherwise employable. I think most people would agree this

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is not the only job that you can get. But

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since you've been on this job, women have been dragged by.

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Speaker 3: Their hair through our streets.

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Speaker 2: A six year old child battling stage four cancer has

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been deported and it turns out he was a US citizen.

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People are running through the fields where they work, people

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who've gone to the streets as allies have been shot

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in publicly acute to me, it's a decision to stay

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on at this point, and considering your honorable service in

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the past, and the dishonorable acts that those who have

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worked for you have conducted, and the disgraceful statements that

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the leadership above you have said, you now have a decision.

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Will you stand with the kids who you're supposed to

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protect or will you side with the killers bringing terror

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to our streets? Mister Lyons, will you resign from ICE?

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Speaker 3: No? Sorry? Well why not?

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Speaker 4: Because so that child that you're showing right there, the

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men and women advice took care of him when his

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father abandoned him in ram.

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Speaker 3: Time has expired.

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Speaker 1: So I got to ask you, having heard this, what's

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going on in the Hill today? What do you what

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do you think? Because the Democrats in this country, they

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are so out of touch with the average American. Yet

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do you have this narrative about you know, nasty ice

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and all of these sorts of things. And of course

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it's all pushed by these posers like Swallowell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're just lying and they call it.

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Speaker 4: And thank goodness Trump's people have gotten the green light

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to call them out on that, because I mean, clearly

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when when he when he said all that, and then

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the director came back and said, yeah, we were. We

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took care of that kid while his dad ran off

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and left him. And I think that that that needs

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to be said, and we got to quit taking it

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from these folks, especially when they lie about us they

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get I.

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Speaker 3: Got into it with a Democrat.

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Speaker 4: I tweeted something about on my ex at Tim Burchett account,

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and I said, you know she's lying, this is and

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I explained why she came up to me on the

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house floor was literally almost tears in her eyes. And

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she said, why'd you say that? And I said, because

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she lied, That's why I said, Yeah, but you can't.

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I thought we were friends. And I'm like, now we're

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still friends. Use a liar, and you know it, just

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it just drives me crazy when we don't call these

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people out and we let their lives stand. Because that

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was his perfect little segue into whatever.

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Speaker 3: He was more lies, and the director dropped.

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Speaker 4: Him like a bad habit with that. I think he

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got it him right there.

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Speaker 1: He really did, and we have seen that over and

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over again from Lions. He's excellent at what he does.

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Speaker 3: On that.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of good Trump administration officials who

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really do fight back and bite back. I think of

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the Treasury Secretary, who is one of the best at that,

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of course, But what is the message now that Americans

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are really getting because there's so much noise out there,

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and the accomplish media also has a great deal because

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it rightly feels that it is under attack by the

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president and the administration. It feels that way, but what

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they're really feeling is accountability. Just like the people in

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the old Biden Justice Department that weaponize the Department of Justice.

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We get Democrats pointing fingers and saying, well, Trump is

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weaponizing the Department of Justice and he's going after his

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political enemies. They confuse accountability with a vendetta. And I'm

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just curious what your folks in Tennessee are seeing, and

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what do you think folks around the country are really seeing.

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Speaker 3: I think they're angry.

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Speaker 4: They saw four years of unchecked, unconstitutional activity, and you know,

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the Democrats are calling it out as revenge and it's

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not even a retribution, it's just justice because you know,

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and they've they arrested many Trump allies, you know, in

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the middle of the night, and CNN was out there

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watching it.

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Speaker 3: That was very clear to America what went on.

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Speaker 4: And then when they elected Kamala and to her off

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or you know, if you didn't really elect her.

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Speaker 3: She never won an election.

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Speaker 4: She just got appointed as the as the candidate, and

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they took it away from Joe Biden. They you know,

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they had no leg to stand on. And I think

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the people in Tennessee see that they see the dishonesty

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of this of the former administration, and they wish Congress

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would do more and I'm very frustrated with Congress because

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we've got we've been given so many opportunities from from

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codifying executive orders to legislation, and we we you know,

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we're we're six weeks behind on everything, on the polling,

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on everything, and our messaging needs to improve. We've got

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to improve on our messaging. That's that's where we're getting killed.

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I think I think we've done some good things. I

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think there's some great stuff in the big beautiful bill,

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people paying less taxes, you know, And I'm and people

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around the district.

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Speaker 3: Are very happy about where the where the economy is go.

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Speaker 4: And we've got some We've got to to circle a

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few wagons though we've got it. There's some stuff we

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need to take care of. But that's what we should

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be doing. Instead, we're gonna we're going to blow another

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week up here, and and I'm afraid we're going to

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you know, we focus on one thing. They always want

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to focus on one bill, and America's ready.

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Speaker 3: We need to.

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Speaker 4: Rapid fire because that's what the Democrats do to us.

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They hit us with a bunch of stuff and we're

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responding to to one or two and they're already on

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four or five, and so I think we've we've got

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to pick up our game in that respect, and it

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goes back. I can't tell you enough about how important

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messaging is to the American public with the Internet and

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what's going on.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I was arguing with somebody yesterday about they were talking

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about the importance of local television and how that they're

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you know, if we can we can talk to them

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and they're on our side. I said, well, no, they're not.

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They're owned by the same people that are trashing us

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at the.

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Speaker 3: National level exactly, you know.

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Speaker 4: And it was just I was like, holy cow, this

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guy's got a million dollars you know, they got millions

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of dollars in this in this organization, and they're not

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They don't they don't get it. They don't get that

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the media hates our guys. And these young kids they're

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bringing up are just little young socialists or Marxists that

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are involved in the media and they're just wanting to

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stick it to somebody because that's all they know, that's

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all taught. And I was I left very frustrated from

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that meetings, as I do a lot of them. But

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these people should have known better and and they're you know,

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they're still wanting us to my billboards when you know

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the the the media is right there in your cell phone,

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and we can control that, and we could just get

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our messaging down.

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Speaker 1: We could we could educate the public to what's really

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going on. Oh, that messaging question is I couldn't agree

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with you more. It's uh. That is a real problem

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for the GOP and the Republicans. And there are too

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many who still believe that the New York Times is

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going to give them a break, is going to give

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them fair coverage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I tell you a quick story about that

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if I couldn't want to. When I was mayor in

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Knox County, I was I was fighting a bunch I'm

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always was always fighting the big boys, the chambers of commerce,

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who are not our friends, who endorsed a bunch of

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pelosis people. And that's why they ended up back in

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the majority of a while back. And they we we

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just now recently took it from him. My father was

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a World War Two marine. He was down at the

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nursing home and he was dying. I mean he would

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he'd meet Jesus face to face. Just in a few

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weeks after this and he had had a massive stroke

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and he couldn't talk very well, but he could grunt out,

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and Mama and I understood what he was saying, and

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I said, I said, he grunted out of that. And

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I walked in there because I was mayor and I

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was fighting, and there was editorial cartoons and front page

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articles attacking me and all this stuff. And he said,

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and I'll never forget this. He said, are they after

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you again, buddy?

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Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, Daddy, they are.

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Speaker 4: And then I said, and then he said, do you

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really want that bunch for you? I thought, wow, that

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is a very profound statement. And I'm going to say that.

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And I've thought about that many times when I'm getting

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busted on CNN or I'm getting busted New York Times

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or whatever whoever.

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Speaker 3: And I think about that, because no, I do not

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want that bunch for me.

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Speaker 4: And when they're for you, that means you're on the wrong.

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Speaker 3: Side of that issue.

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what's happening with our people. They think,

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you know, and then they'll do some moderate to liberal

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editorial or something, and you know, somebody will say something

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nice about them, and they think, oh gosh, this is

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great reality as you just sold yourself to them.

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Speaker 5: How has consumer confidence fallen to the lowest level in

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over a decade? Watched Out on Wall Street podcast with

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Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between

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politics and the economy and how it affects your wallet.

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The media income is eighty four thousand dollars, but people

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feel like they need one hundred and thirty thousand just

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to feel like they're getting ahead. Until housing and insurance

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costs go down, will there be more of the same.

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Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street,

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it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 3: Be informed.

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Speaker 5: Check out the watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with

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Speaker 1: The gush all over that kind of rare applause, if

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you will, or at least tolerance from the you know,

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the tolerance, the so called tolerance group, the coexist group,

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and you know, I think, with a context and perspective,

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the fact that your your dad was so close to

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meeting Jesus, what an important last life lesson that he

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gave you that I think was sent directly from the Lord. Yes,

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and I think that was that's something we all should heed.

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Just a final quick question for you. I know you've

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got to get back to the floor and back to work,

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but back to the Save Act. What do you think

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of the talking filibuster? And what are you hearing from

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the usual suspects in the Senate, the likes of Susan

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Collins from Maine or Lisa Murkowski from Alaska. I'm hearing

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some other senators are They don't They don't want to go.

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Speaker 3: Through this battle.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of it all?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: They don't and they turned their back on America.

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Speaker 4: Is what they've done again. Twelve percent of the population.

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These people need to be primary and but I.

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Speaker 3: Doubt they will.

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Speaker 4: If they are, it'll be such a small amount, and

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the party will support them because they don't want to.

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Speaker 3: They want to expensive prime. They don't want to, you know,

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they want to keep.

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Speaker 4: Them strong and and uh, you know, people'd rather they'd

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rather reign in hell than serve in heaven.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's part of the problem up here. And

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nothing changes. You know, we waste a bunch of money

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on some of this. What our side does I think

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on military spending? And they waste a ton of it

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a lot more actually on whatte stuff all over the world,

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and we're still spending the same money.

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Speaker 3: And everybody just wants to be in power.

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Speaker 4: And they they liked the entourage, they like the suburbans,

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I like going to the front of the line. They like,

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you know, at the music events, the sporting events, sitting

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in the skybox and all the beautiful people come by

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and kissing their hand. And it's got to stop. We've

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got to start addressing this. We can do better. We've

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got the power to do that, and it's at that

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ballot box. But currently there's no real effort to educate

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people or to register people. And we and we always

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get mad at the Democrats because they know how to

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play the game, you know.

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Speaker 3: They do the the after.

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Speaker 4: Vote thing and all that, and we don't know that's

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went on dirty our hands, well, that gum, and it's

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the rules. And I remind all my conservative Christian folks,

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Jesus didn't ask them to leave the temple.

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Speaker 3: That gummy threw them out. And it's by force.

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Speaker 4: And we better start paying attention because we they're just

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it is slipping away as fast as it is you

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can imagine.

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Speaker 1: Right now, and time to throw out the money lenders

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first and foremost on that side of things in the Temple.

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And and just to put an exclamation point on all

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of that, if you can't get this Save Act or

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Save America Act, whatever it's going to finally be, I

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do believe you're going to see Democrats twenty twenty style

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election administration. And you know well what that means for repositors. Yeah, yes,

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well we will keep watching. As always, much appreciated to

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your time and your perspective from the sewer. We very

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much appreciate that. Thank you, brother, you bet thanks to

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my guest today, Representative Tim Burchett. You've been listening to

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another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle,

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Senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be back soon

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with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom, anxious for

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the frame.

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Speaker 3: Hearn the fab easier, and then it faded away.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm

