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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of January thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're discussing the eleventh episode of the second season of Shrinking.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the Drugs Don't Work.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Yes, Paul Struggling will.

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<v Speaker 1>A duel me? Yes, yes, Paul directly, the one for

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<v Speaker 1>whom the Parkinson's drugs are no longer working as well

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<v Speaker 1>as they will and within a short time we'll stop

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<v Speaker 1>working at all. But also Jimmy's drug of fixing people,

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<v Speaker 1>not doing it for him anymore. And this episode raises

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<v Speaker 1>the terrifying question, are they going to do a Donnie

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<v Speaker 1>redemption arc next season? Is that what next season is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>God? No, it did seem that that Jimmy tried and

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<v Speaker 2>abandoned that that plan pretty quickly. I hope that sticks

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<v Speaker 2>because nobody wants that newbody wants that.

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<v Speaker 1>No. No, so we assume that Grace is selling real

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<v Speaker 1>estate in Canada. She's not back, right, That's capacity That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I assumed the first time I saw that I

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<v Speaker 1>was away, But then I figured, yeah, I suppose they

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<v Speaker 1>have houses to sell in Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, You think it would take some time to take

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<v Speaker 2>whatever tests and then you have.

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<v Speaker 1>To take her sister knows somebody it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we won't. We won't be worrying about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead will be she gets the houses where people were

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead will we'll complain about why they had to do

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<v Speaker 2>this dumb sitcom thing of breaking up Derek and Gaddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, now, yeah, it was not necessary at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not and it was awful, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>give that guy credit for good self esteem, but still.

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<v Speaker 2>Stupid, very stupid like and it was an It was

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<v Speaker 2>a fun like a it was a funny scene when

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<v Speaker 2>they broke up. Yes, but as always, there was no

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<v Speaker 2>reason for this. They they were fun together. They he

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<v Speaker 2>fit right in. She could have just invited him to

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks dinner and all would have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, perfectly, ablutely. And also they managed to say again

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<v Speaker 1>how hot he? So check that one off the script.

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<v Speaker 1>Also did did Taco Bell pay for that product placement?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Liz was Liz was not being giving

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<v Speaker 2>it positive reviews, but everybody else was.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, Liz not liking it is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of an indoorma. But you want to be like those

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<v Speaker 1>two sexy people.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you have mentioned he's hot?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, let's just mention it one more time, shall

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<v Speaker 1>we like?

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<v Speaker 3>It?

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<v Speaker 1>Just be such an ego boost for that guy. Every

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<v Speaker 1>episode they tell me how.

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<v Speaker 2>Handsome, But then they kicked me out and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>end of my character?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, bye?

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<v Speaker 1>That could be You know what what does not get

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<v Speaker 1>a ringing endorsement in this is the home health aid industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if that's who I'm hiring, I'm just gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to have my mom and ride oh my gown. She

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<v Speaker 1>was awful.

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<v Speaker 3>She must not.

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<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, she was nice to Gabby's mom, but she

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<v Speaker 2>was very mean to Gabby.

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<v Speaker 1>Very mean, a little on the sadistic side. Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>unnecessarily isn't Gabby paying?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean if it weren't for Gabby, for her,

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<v Speaker 2>for Gabby not taking her mom into her house, you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have a job right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So plus would you have your mom living with you,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're here taking care of somebody else's mom. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of your momh? Boy, that pushed all my se.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, geeesh.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a lot of a lot of parenting

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<v Speaker 1>woes with the Alice said, speaking of words that are

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<v Speaker 1>just straight like a knife to the heart. I'm more

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<v Speaker 1>sad than mad. Anyways, You're not the person I thought

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Ouch, every every parent watching this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Just whisks absolutely just get a gun and shoot him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah that was And it's like you here, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the inverse of when a parent would

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<v Speaker 2>say to a kid, I'm not mad, I'm disappointed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so maybe we should through because now we know

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<v Speaker 3>how it feels.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Yes, that is yeah, painful both ways,

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<v Speaker 1>but it leaves more of Mark on the parrot.

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<v Speaker 3>Rough rough.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she goes in stays again.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it right?

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<v Speaker 2>But we never saw her there, She was never like

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<v Speaker 2>inconveniently there when when Gabby was trying to have a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with Derek, she was driving off in her Mini

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<v Speaker 2>at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm in her little car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. And uh, Brian and Charlie are gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>baby now because the first mother found out that the

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<v Speaker 2>other prospective parents were Disney adults.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, it's totally a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yes, yes. And also he gave her the

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<v Speaker 1>troll you know, the trolls pulled through for them in

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<v Speaker 1>the end. And it's a good thing because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that adoption guy was just about to dump the.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, like I cannot anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we take both twins and they give one of

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<v Speaker 1>the bag after you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? He was so happy to see Charlie come.

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<v Speaker 2>To their meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>So then why did why did the birth mother call Brian? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was another It was.

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<v Speaker 1>A little weird weird. Maybe maybe the coordinator said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk to this too. Here's this one.

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<v Speaker 1>You just take it from here. Only deal with Charlie parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian he was like, I'm out of here. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't take it. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh oh Wally, Jimmy's patient had a little

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<v Speaker 1>parenting moment with a dog. You know, just couldn't give

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<v Speaker 1>it back. It was fun the way that resolved. But

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<v Speaker 1>if the guy can hear that well into her apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>that would totally get Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's.

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<v Speaker 1>Made for a fun comic mind but immediately put.

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<v Speaker 3>To do something because that's that's disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>Or else, just just form a friendship with somebody you

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<v Speaker 1>never have to see face to face. You just talked

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<v Speaker 1>to him from the wall. It'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I really I think I spoiled last week the the

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<v Speaker 1>thing of Sean dating Paul's as they and they in

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<v Speaker 1>the actual appointment, they sort of started talking and he

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<v Speaker 1>cut them off. But now Paul goes to inappropriately finds

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<v Speaker 1>out that the doctor is at this bar and he

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<v Speaker 1>goes to talk to her and then Sean Pompson. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved the way he sits down and puts his arm

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<v Speaker 1>around her, and then she kind of leans into him

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<v Speaker 3>Arm like this this is happening, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep. She wasn't like trying to be very professional.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just like, yep, here, we are so good

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<v Speaker 1>for Sean. He also should have totally taken the apartment

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<v Speaker 1>that that place looked nice. Nice, I would possibly leave

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<v Speaker 1>my house to live in the place looks nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was, you know, of course, a nice impulse

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<v Speaker 2>from Derek. But I do I can see Sean being like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to try to things for myself. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, it was super nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you try to do things for yourself while you're

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<v Speaker 1>still living in the house. If you can live someplace

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<v Speaker 1>off of somebody's living, that it's probably good for him

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<v Speaker 1>to be with people. So then, Oh, there's also the

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<v Speaker 1>little issue of Julie having friends, which Paul knew in

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<v Speaker 1>the abstract but not in uh fast right until he

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of ladies That must have been the

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<v Speaker 1>funnest casting. Yes, and they were working in every time

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<v Speaker 1>there's this one blonde lady. Every time the camera was

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<v Speaker 1>on that group, she was she was working for me.

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<v Speaker 1>She was all but holding up her resume.

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<v Speaker 3>But good for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know, okay, fine, I'm tried to think

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<v Speaker 1>the last time I had that many women over in

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<v Speaker 1>my house just to hang. Do people still have groups

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<v Speaker 1>of friends like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely did it. One time. You have book I

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<v Speaker 1>could have been book club.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me that scene in Jerry Maguire where she

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<v Speaker 1>had there having their you know, divorced and otherwise broken

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<v Speaker 1>up club and then he walked, Oh, Tom Cruise, I

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<v Speaker 1>liked it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so a lot a lot happened, considering it was

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<v Speaker 2>the second to last episode of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, that is true. At one point I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Sean. This seems like a parenting thing to

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<v Speaker 1>me to tell somebody if you're not ready, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>When you are ready, the universe will present another opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that's always true, right, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice though. But that's what you got to tell you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't say no, You just have to

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<v Speaker 1>do it now. Which is possible that I have it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work out? Yes, yeah, and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course the very end was that Jimmy realized

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<v Speaker 2>he needed help and he and he actually reached out.

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<v Speaker 2>He tried his old coping mechanism and it was lightly

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<v Speaker 2>turned down.

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<v Speaker 1>Very sweetly. I can find you somebody else, but I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you won't be right and.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, and then he did actually call Paul, thankfully, because

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<v Speaker 4>I was concerned when he was, you know, lurching about

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<v Speaker 4>in traffic that yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to make it that far.

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<v Speaker 1>So that did not That was not good. And really, honestly, Alice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I love you and all of your how

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<v Speaker 1>many years of maturity, But what she was asking him

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<v Speaker 1>was not reasonable that he should go do therapy for

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<v Speaker 1>the person. It's not I mean, you can hope he's

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of guy, but as not a reasonable ask.

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<v Speaker 3>So she.

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<v Speaker 2>She does, she does.

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<v Speaker 1>But Lewis seems to be doing pretty good. He got

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<v Speaker 1>to meet Summer and Dilnon, what do I Summer would

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<v Speaker 1>probably cheer him up if she give him, if he

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<v Speaker 1>gave her an opportunity, and uh, he has a friend

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<v Speaker 1>at the coffeehouse, so that's going to friends. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he seems to be doing a lot better than Jimmy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he should give some counts to day but anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>the String, which, although it dropped on Christmas Eve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes thanks the title is the last Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>And you couldn't. They couldn't quite get it to drop

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<v Speaker 1>on Thanksgiving, so they say, well, what's the next holiday

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<v Speaker 1>we can reasonably date? They didn't drop it on Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>They dropped for Christmas Eve. So we will be back

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