Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What what's going to happen?
Speaker 3: I think what?
Speaker 4: Welcome to the Headless Giant Podcast. This is another Headless
Speaker 4: Giant magical mailbag. But we have a special guest today.
Speaker 4: We got Loomis from the Chanted Down podcast. So this
Speaker 4: is my host, Nick from.
Speaker 1: The Cult Reject. Go ahead and tell him what you
Speaker 1: got coming up and then we'll go over to Loomis.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody? How is it? Thank you very
Speaker 2: much for having me on again. I always enjoy doing
Speaker 2: this show every week. Yeah, we just actually met me
Speaker 2: and Adler's just in a live show. So after this,
Speaker 2: if you didn't catch it, go over there to Cult Reject.
Speaker 2: Oh it was on your show too, right you streamed
Speaker 2: it up check it out on Elysis channel and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: we just had the library the untold on one thing.
Speaker 2: You know what, I'll tweet, I'll not tweet it out.
Speaker 2: I'll i'll I'll tease it out just here and I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say anything on my show. Oh you know what,
Speaker 2: it sucks. You're not gonna be here unless you can
Speaker 2: get off or you can get home. Early next Monday
Speaker 2: at two o'clock, we got Greg Carwood coming on the
Speaker 2: Occult Rejects. So yeah, yeah we got gun I pulled
Speaker 2: that off. U must you use some magic for that one?
Speaker 2: So h im coming on, Yeah, we got him coming
Speaker 2: on so next Monday, so we can check that out.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure we have. Let me see what we
Speaker 2: got dropping next week too. I'm sure there's play something
Speaker 2: that me and Hillers are in two together. Uh the
Speaker 2: Strange Brooke Broadcast. Were you on that with us?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got that dropping this week. We got the
Speaker 2: poll Shift with Ricardo. We got that dropping this weekend
Speaker 2: too that my man Hillis was there as well. And
Speaker 2: then next week unfortunately no know we have Rudolph Steiner
Speaker 2: and Growing Up Marmon with Cold Crusher. But uh yeah,
Speaker 2: this weekend we got a bunch of stuff with me
Speaker 2: and Hellers on it.
Speaker 1: But very nice, very nice.
Speaker 3: I can find Joe well, thanks for having me on, guys.
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Speaker 3: I'm celebrating twelve years now of chan it down next month,
Speaker 3: so lots of stuff in there. No episodes in old episode.
Speaker 3: Been covering timeless stuff for a long time, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very nice. So what we have in the mail
Speaker 4: bag today is we got two. So first one is
Speaker 4: from Jose Martinez and it says, hey, Headless, please excuse
Speaker 4: my ignorance on the proper place to send this, because
Speaker 4: I'm aware this is your story, but I couldn't figure
Speaker 4: out out which email to address it to. Now this
Speaker 4: is called image of a creature or occult. Rejects might
Speaker 4: receive this. I was planning on just sending it to
Speaker 4: you and then the image and a short message, but
Speaker 4: then I realized, to understand where I'm going with this,
Speaker 4: it'd be better to also include a podcast episode I
Speaker 4: saw it on, so he says, which would profess how
Speaker 4: this could relate to the spider symbolism you guys drop,
Speaker 4: So he says, hopefully I copied the link correctly, but
Speaker 4: if not, for the podcast.
Speaker 1: Here paranormal video most current called bell tane, Windigoes and bald.
Speaker 1: The picture is what looks like a deer. I drew
Speaker 1: the lines on the immediate effect but that time of
Speaker 1: year is also pertinent. The property is a space a
Speaker 1: space Wolf Research, which fences up against Skinwalker Ranch. So
Speaker 1: he's got an image and I'm going.
Speaker 4: To save the photo and send it over so you
Speaker 4: can see what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's a Wind to Go. I guess we got
Speaker 1: copied it over.
Speaker 2: We got evidence of a Wind to Go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, from space Wolf Research.
Speaker 1: So that's the one adjacent to the Oh, who.
Speaker 2: Who is that piece of property? I think I know
Speaker 2: who this guy is? Space Wolf Research.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he's pretty well known.
Speaker 2: You know his his story. He's got some interesting stories. Actually,
Speaker 2: you know, it's.
Speaker 4: Kind of a deer now if you know the story
Speaker 4: behind the Wind to Go. Basically, it's kind of a
Speaker 4: Native American zombie type thing. And so this was an
Speaker 4: image I guess he caught on their stream or something
Speaker 4: or one of these trail cams, and it looks a
Speaker 4: little bit like a deer, but the back end of
Speaker 4: it definitely has a distinct shape to it. Now, the
Speaker 4: Wind to Go is kind of like it's the embodiment
Speaker 4: of a wasting disease mixed with some sort of a
Speaker 4: cannibalistic human shape shifter.
Speaker 1: And I know, it's very prominent in this area. You've
Speaker 1: got a lot of different windygo type ideas there. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not really seeing it too much, but uh,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think?
Speaker 3: Pretty blurry?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, another blurry creature. You know, we have a
Speaker 1: blurry world though.
Speaker 3: It could it could be there or couldnot be there,
Speaker 3: you know, so we could have sneezed right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I've got another one.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 1: What's that me?
Speaker 2: Deer grazing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, looks a.
Speaker 4: Little bit like that, but the back end had something
Speaker 4: going on with it.
Speaker 1: Deer grazing in.
Speaker 4: So, it says this is from Angela. It says I've
Speaker 4: been between two military bases in northwest Florida over the
Speaker 4: past two years. I've seen some odd things happen. In
Speaker 4: late twenty twenty two, I was in my hot tub
Speaker 4: late at night and I saw formation in the sky.
Speaker 4: I believe it was drones practicing. It was twelve by
Speaker 4: twelve lights in the sky moving and sync in different directions.
Speaker 4: On other occasions, I have seen what looks like a
Speaker 4: video game in the sky with lights zipping around and
Speaker 4: chasing each other. I know that those videos of the
Speaker 4: drone shows from China really has our military spooked, because
Speaker 4: nothing is more horrific to them than the idea of
Speaker 4: having a drone swarm over a military base and having
Speaker 4: everybody die before anybody knows what's going on. So if
Speaker 4: they're practicing with drones out there, I would not be surprised,
Speaker 4: it says. On other occasions, I have seen what looks
Speaker 4: like a video game in the sky with lights zipping
Speaker 4: around and.
Speaker 1: Chasing each other.
Speaker 4: Twice, I've seen cylinder looking balls of fire fall all
Speaker 4: in from the sky very low. The first one scared
Speaker 4: me and I was literally waiting for some creature to
Speaker 4: come around the corner. The second one changed colors as
Speaker 4: it burned out. I saw green and blue color. My
Speaker 4: suspicion is that these are plasma technology used by the military,
Speaker 4: but that's just a guess I've seen because I worked
Speaker 4: very early in the morning doing trucking, and I have
Speaker 4: seen the most magnificent, you know, meteorites as they're entering
Speaker 4: the atmosphere and they change all sorts of different colors.
Speaker 1: I've seen big.
Speaker 4: Old blue ones and green ones, and I know that
Speaker 4: based off of how they're hitting the atmosphere and what
Speaker 4: they're made of. You get all sorts of different colors
Speaker 4: with them. This one other occasion a few years ago,
Speaker 4: I was walking my dog in the afternoon and I
Speaker 4: heard the loudest engine noise and it sounded like it
Speaker 4: was going straight up, but I could not see a thing.
Speaker 4: I enjoy your show, and I hope you enjoy my stories,
Speaker 4: Angela di So those are the two all sort of
Speaker 4: weird phenomena.
Speaker 3: I saw some weird stuff last week in the sky.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a video game, but I saw I see
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff, but I saw I guess the UFO.
Speaker 3: It flashed at me like it went boom, big beam
Speaker 3: at me. And then I noticed there was a fleet
Speaker 3: behind it, and there was a bunch of things kind
Speaker 3: of going like this, and they all went into one
Speaker 3: format of one long one long fleet. And it was
Speaker 3: really because you don't usually see things kind of going
Speaker 3: like that. Definitely wasn't satellites, but I see stuff all
Speaker 3: the time, so I documented it. Couldn't film it. It
Speaker 3: was just too high up. But yeah, it looked like
Speaker 3: a video game a little bit too.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: And what a lot of times people will see is
Speaker 4: the SpaceX satellites that are sort of all moving in
Speaker 4: a line across the sky, and yeah, if they don't
Speaker 4: change direction, it's probably a satellite. But once they start
Speaker 4: changing direction, you got to really pay attention because there's
Speaker 4: there's a high probability that that's not identified aerial phenomena
Speaker 4: or UFOs.
Speaker 1: And the more you pay attention, the more you'll see.
Speaker 4: So definitely get out there and start looking up because
Speaker 4: you never know what's going on. So, h Loomis, let's
Speaker 4: talk about some of your experiences, some of the things
Speaker 4: you've done.
Speaker 3: Well. I just completed a documentary in March called Sacred
Speaker 3: Site and Site with Your Eyes I have. I started it.
Speaker 3: I got inspired when I went to Egypt. I wanted
Speaker 3: to do a documentary about our ancient path, but with
Speaker 3: my own expertise of all the stuff that I've gathered
Speaker 3: in all these years doing podcasts and before. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to just make it like every other documentary about
Speaker 3: all this stuff. So I it kind of opened up
Speaker 3: before me and I live in Hawaii. So a friend
Speaker 3: of mine's like, you know, there's this book that has
Speaker 3: someone found a pyramid here in Hawaii. I'm like, really, okay,
Speaker 3: I'll come over, we'll do it. Well, it wasn't that
Speaker 3: simple of a mission. We got rained out, and but
Speaker 3: it sent me down the rabbit hole of all kinds
Speaker 3: of different ancient structures that people don't know about that
Speaker 3: are part of this once global civilization we had where
Speaker 3: people made megalists and pyramids. It sent me down to Australia.
Speaker 3: It sent me, you know, I went to like the
Speaker 3: main spots to like Stone Hinge and A's very hinge,
Speaker 3: and you know, it just it just brought me on
Speaker 3: a journey and it took me, you know, quite a
Speaker 3: couple of years, but I finally completed it in March.
Speaker 3: And that's the biggest thing I got going on right now.
Speaker 3: But it's pretty big. And these are like kind of
Speaker 3: small but groundbreaking, groundbreaking kind of discoveries because it's like
Speaker 3: these are you know, it's like a it's like we're
Speaker 3: finding things that the archaeologists are not looking for and
Speaker 3: not looking people aren't looking in these spots to think
Speaker 3: that there was communication across the world where people were
Speaker 3: building pyramids all over the place, and there are more
Speaker 3: places than people think, and these are the first ones
Speaker 3: here in Hawaii. So yeah, that's kind of the big
Speaker 3: thing I've been doing lately. I call it sacred site
Speaker 3: as in your eyes, because you have to have the
Speaker 3: site to see the world in the real light that
Speaker 3: it really is. Because the world we've been shown through
Speaker 3: the institution of all these institutions in organized society is
Speaker 3: not the real world as we all know. So that's
Speaker 3: why I'm also not afraid to throw in our current
Speaker 3: situation composing what the dark occultists are doing and seeing
Speaker 3: the world with the right eyes, because it's all connected.
Speaker 3: You can't unconnect this because we're talking about the lost
Speaker 3: chapters of our history that have been you know, held
Speaker 3: back from us. We're we don't understand a lot of
Speaker 3: our origins or anything. So it's just that's the documentary
Speaker 3: in a quick nutshell.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So in North America, at least, it seems like there's
Speaker 4: this network of mounds. It's not just a single sort
Speaker 4: of sight, and they're not disconnected from one another. There
Speaker 4: has to be some kind of a networking effect, and
Speaker 4: a lot of people point to these lay lines and
Speaker 4: different geometric earth structures that are related to the energies
Speaker 4: that these late that these mounds sort of tap into.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's no different in England. You've
Speaker 4: got the same kind of mound structures that they've built
Speaker 4: on top of, especially the you know, different ave Bury
Speaker 4: tours and all these other things. They're very heavily connected
Speaker 4: to another way of seeing things. And you know, again
Speaker 4: that's the importance of why you're calling it a site
Speaker 4: and not just a site.
Speaker 1: Because you have to have the eyes to.
Speaker 4: See what these materialists, you know, physical only type scientists
Speaker 4: aren't looking at. You know, they don't really understand this stuff,
Speaker 4: and anytime they need to, especially we were just talking
Speaker 4: about the Pyramids, they'll they'll switch over into a mystical
Speaker 4: mindset just because they can't explain what they're looking at.
Speaker 4: And so it might be a machine, but they don't
Speaker 4: want to say it's a machine, so it must have
Speaker 4: been a spiritual thing. So, you know, metal handles then
Speaker 4: become something about a ritual type thing instead of a machine,
Speaker 4: which the rest of the site actually points to some
Speaker 4: kind of ancient technology. And I think that's what we're missing,
Speaker 4: is the connection to our ancestors ancient technology and understanding
Speaker 4: that might help us free ourselves, or it might take
Speaker 4: down the control network that's been in place for a
Speaker 4: long long time.
Speaker 1: Now, what do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I totally agree. I mean, are these not
Speaker 3: maybe the most important questions we should be to answer?
Speaker 3: Asking this is about our ancient past, because they don't
Speaker 3: want us to know our ancient past, because it puts
Speaker 3: the real truth out there of where we came from,
Speaker 3: who you really are, and of course it keeps us
Speaker 3: in this giant plantation of paying to exist in human
Speaker 3: slavery when we realize that, you know, we're much greater
Speaker 3: than what they've shown us to be. And you know,
Speaker 3: if you don't know where you came from, you don't
Speaker 3: know where you're going. And I consider these the most
Speaker 3: important questions of why we're not free because we are
Speaker 3: being held back by these dark occult groups who invert
Speaker 3: everything natural and enslave us. And you know it's I mean,
Speaker 3: that's something that I cover a lot in this part
Speaker 3: of the documentary is about the ancient cover up. I mean,
Speaker 3: because we they've tore out chapters of our history and
Speaker 3: we're supposed to believe that we've only been around civilization
Speaker 3: has only been around since six thousand years ago. Then
Speaker 3: we have all these anomalous things that we have giant
Speaker 3: we have giants in our past, elongated skulls. I mean,
Speaker 3: just look at some of these crazy non human looking
Speaker 3: petroglyphs and geoglyphs. I mean those things on the planet.
Speaker 3: May you know, it's like a much more diversified Earth
Speaker 3: we had. And I don't think human Homo sapien sapiens
Speaker 3: shared this planet, but I mean I think they share
Speaker 3: this planet with a lot more than there we're said
Speaker 3: to believe. And you could possibly dismiss those petroglyphs in
Speaker 3: places like Grand Gallery, Utah as indigenous on psychedelics, but
Speaker 3: my thinking is people usually drew what they saw, you know,
Speaker 3: and they something happened there, and we're just I don't know,
Speaker 3: we've been like quarantine. I hate that word quarantine now,
Speaker 3: we all do, but we've been quarantined off from a
Speaker 3: much more amazing and crazier past. This Earth is so
Speaker 3: much crazier than we think than our everyday life are
Speaker 3: going to work and coming home and making dinner and
Speaker 3: watching TV. So you know, And that's just always been
Speaker 3: my hopes with this, everything I do with the show,
Speaker 3: the documentaries, just to show people like the world's a
Speaker 3: lot more than you're being shown, absolutely, and I think
Speaker 3: you know, getting the understanding of the ancient world helps
Speaker 3: us bring about an understanding in ourselves because you know,
Speaker 3: as we know, our brains are not, you know, maxed
Speaker 3: out to capacity. We've got a lot more functionality in
Speaker 3: there that probably goes into the ancient teachings that we
Speaker 3: haven't been given yet, and we're not supposed to be
Speaker 3: given them, because how do they maintain their control if
Speaker 3: we do have them. And one of the things I
Speaker 3: think is funny if you think about society like a
Speaker 3: layer cake, right, every previous sort of social contract is
Speaker 3: laid on top of the other one, so that there's
Speaker 3: never really any way of getting rid of the same
Speaker 3: families that seem to rule after every revolution. I think
Speaker 3: it's very important to get.
Speaker 4: Down to those base layers so that we can figure
Speaker 4: out what's going on above them, because if you look
Speaker 4: at the Phoenicians, for example.
Speaker 1: My big thing now is looking at the.
Speaker 4: Comparisons between Carthage and America. And you've got names like
Speaker 4: McCartney in Wales and England, and that comes from Carthage.
Speaker 4: McCarthy is a Carthaginian name. You've also got Carda Hana.
Speaker 4: Carda Hana in Spain was a Carthage outpost and so
Speaker 4: the way that they set up their governance structure is
Speaker 4: identical with the way our governance works today. And you
Speaker 4: could say maybe you didn't start out like that, but
Speaker 4: then you find out about the Society of the Cincinnati,
Speaker 4: where you've got all of these old world families ruling
Speaker 4: the country in the shadows.
Speaker 1: And if you don't.
Speaker 4: Know about the Society of the Cincinnati got started in
Speaker 4: seventeen eighty three at the same time as the signing
Speaker 4: of the Constitution. And if you look at the signing
Speaker 4: of the Constitution, it doesn't look like they actually ratified
Speaker 4: it correctly. So what are we actually dealing with? And
Speaker 4: so you've got these Every president becomes a member of
Speaker 4: the Society of Cincinnati upon being elected.
Speaker 3: I didn't know about that much, well, right, but that's how.
Speaker 4: The Carthaginians ran their government. Their Senate was ruled by
Speaker 4: ancestral families that would then be you know, if they
Speaker 4: couldn't reach a deal with the court systems, they would
Speaker 4: throw it down to the House, which was commoners. They
Speaker 4: didn't have a kingship, had a republic oligarchy, and that's
Speaker 4: kind of what we have today is a republic ur oligarchy,
Speaker 4: which is not what we signed up for, I guess
Speaker 4: in the constitution. But you find out about these different societies.
Speaker 1: What else do you call it? It's an oligarchy, it is.
Speaker 3: And we get all of our blueprints of civilization. I
Speaker 3: mean Sumerians who came out of nowhere, like all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, they have writing, they have laws, and pretty
Speaker 3: much our government system is kind of based on how
Speaker 3: they all they had kings, but we probably we still do.
Speaker 3: They just you know, have the government do all their work.
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, we get the same blueprint of society
Speaker 3: from way back and they because it worked, It works
Speaker 3: on controlling the people, and it continues to work, and
Speaker 3: you know, I think we're forever just they're just forever
Speaker 3: recycling the same formula. Really it just varying degrees. But yeah, my.
Speaker 4: Favorite hieroglyph from the Egyptians is the word netscher n
Speaker 4: e t j e r and netsure is a flag
Speaker 4: and it means the gods, the gods are a flag.
Speaker 4: And netchure could also be where we get our term nature.
Speaker 4: So human nature is to worship these flags as a god.
Speaker 4: And then you kind of understand where we're at because
Speaker 4: it's all about the cult flag that you you know,
Speaker 4: so if you're gonna apply Egyptian mythology to today, you
Speaker 4: look at the United Nations buildings and you see a
Speaker 4: bunch of gods that people worship because they're propped up
Speaker 4: in front of them, and that's just human nature. And
Speaker 4: that's kind of what you have all over the world
Speaker 4: is all of these different little franchises of control.
Speaker 3: Yeah you do. Yeah, I mean I can go by
Speaker 3: I live here in Hawaii, so I can go by
Speaker 3: just the Polynesian Cultural Center. And if you look at
Speaker 3: all the flags of all those cultures, they're all either
Speaker 3: British monarchy or red and white. And you can take
Speaker 3: that back to well, the Knights of Malta for example,
Speaker 3: the red and the white. Like if you look the
Speaker 3: Tonguan flags, it's one of the smallest nations in the world.
Speaker 3: It has the exact same symbol as the Knights of Malta.
Speaker 3: Or it's just the British monarchy, or you know, they
Speaker 3: went all over and we do people worship these flags
Speaker 3: they put in the back of every single you know,
Speaker 3: presidential briefing. You got the American flag. Yeah, you're right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: How many of these countries are ruled by law.
Speaker 4: Of the sea, and it's law of the sea that
Speaker 4: was developed by the Canaanite Phoenicians. Carthaginians. You know, they
Speaker 4: came up with that basic legal framework and it's been
Speaker 4: in use ever since they came out with it, because
Speaker 4: before they were Canaanite Phoenicians, they were Minoans then actually
Speaker 4: started the Canaanite Phoenicians. So I mean, you take it
Speaker 4: all the way back into history. These guys were the
Speaker 4: ones exploring the planet. The Carthaginians sailed all the way
Speaker 4: around Africa, and just recently they had a test where
Speaker 4: they took a Carthaginian trirem and tried to sail it
Speaker 4: across the ocean.
Speaker 1: And it made it just fine.
Speaker 4: They didn't have any problems making those trips.
Speaker 1: They were highly advanced.
Speaker 4: So when we're talking about the spread of culture across
Speaker 4: these different continents, it shouldn't be ruled out that these
Speaker 4: people were really good at keeping secrets.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just had a guest on my show.
Speaker 3: We just talked about it that Captain Cook and Christopher Columbus,
Speaker 3: both being thirty third degree Freemasons, when they went and
Speaker 3: found all found all these spots, they were just remapping
Speaker 3: the Earth from previous maps. These people had been around,
Speaker 3: they knew what they were looking for. I mean, I
Speaker 3: live in why the most isolated island chain in the world.
Speaker 3: You missed that by a few notches. You're going straight
Speaker 3: up to Alaska, you know, to find it easy? Yeah,
Speaker 3: to find here is any of these South Pacific islands
Speaker 3: is pretty hard. And they you know, suddenly found Australia,
Speaker 3: New Zealand, Captain Coke, that is, Tahiti, Hawaii. All these
Speaker 3: spots you can just you could miss so easily. Easter
Speaker 3: Island actually no, he didn't find East Island, but the
Speaker 3: Dutch found East Island. But still like to find all
Speaker 3: these little tiny dots just to you know, they're just
Speaker 3: they're just they already they already knew what they were
Speaker 3: looking for. They came here to rape the minds of
Speaker 3: these people.
Speaker 4: I think, well that could be a part of it too,
Speaker 4: is you know, these ancient technologies of the mind associated
Speaker 4: with magic and these mound sites and all the rest
Speaker 4: of that stuff. You could really enhance somebody's remote viewing abilities.
Speaker 4: And if that's how they're doing you know, the mapping
Speaker 4: back then, that would make a lot of sense. I mean,
Speaker 4: especially if you look at the fifteen eighties, they've got
Speaker 4: a perfect map of Antarctica.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't have that.
Speaker 4: According to you know, popular history. I mean, you never
Speaker 4: came in contact with it by that.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna think about how we had maps that old.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I sometimes it's like, I
Speaker 2: don't would you walk this? Like how'd you get an
Speaker 2: aerial view? Liked?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: You have to? Like sometimes you even question, like how
Speaker 2: the fuck do people even know what the places look like?
Speaker 1: To even maybe yeah, maybe they didn't really burn the
Speaker 1: Library of Alexandria. Maybe it was confiscated by somebody.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's where we get the maps from Vatican Library
Speaker 3: now probably yeah, there you go. Yeah, these these cultures
Speaker 3: have gone around. I mean talking about North America, you
Speaker 3: mentioned North America going into places and taking the giant bones.
Speaker 3: That's a big one. The Smithsonian taking the you know
Speaker 3: probably I don't know if they dug up the mounds
Speaker 3: or not, but you know, there's that story of.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 3: It's not come to mind. The Grand Canyon.
Speaker 1: I got a story.
Speaker 3: What's that guy's name?
Speaker 1: In Michigan, there are ten thousand mounds that they excavated and.
Speaker 4: All of the material, all of the artifacts for that
Speaker 4: is just sitting in the basement of a university, Michigan University,
Speaker 4: just sitting there.
Speaker 1: Nobody's even looked at him yet.
Speaker 3: Right. I had a lady on my show and she's
Speaker 3: on the documentary, Heather Arnold. She is investigating the giants
Speaker 3: of Aruba. And they have one of the giant skeletons
Speaker 3: in the basement of on one of the islands in
Speaker 3: a museum. But it's in this little closed spot so
Speaker 3: you never look at it. But you know, they confiscated
Speaker 3: this stuff, hit it. They don't want us to know this,
Speaker 3: and they've gone all over. When they went on the Crusades,
Speaker 3: these occult groups, part of their mission was to you know,
Speaker 3: take away the knowledge of well the ancients and of
Speaker 3: course brainwash them, kill them. I mean all that. It
Speaker 3: wasn't just one mission. I think there was multiple reasons
Speaker 3: why they went to these places and did what they did, right.
Speaker 4: I Mean, I hate to bring up Christianity, but it
Speaker 4: seems like that was the goal, is to get rid
Speaker 4: of all that ancient knowledge, to go everywhere and try
Speaker 4: and convert them, you know, get rid of their memory system,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Right, right, they went around And yeah, so I mean
Speaker 3: so when I here in Hawaii finding these spots, it
Speaker 3: pisses off modern academia, archaeologists, It pisses off even the
Speaker 3: Hawaiians because they consider themselves to be the first people here.
Speaker 3: But there are some people that here do that believe
Speaker 3: in the sunken continent of Moo when the ocean was lower,
Speaker 3: and that's what we're talking about here. And so I came,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't care who I'm offending. Truth needs
Speaker 3: to be and it doesn't matter. It's just like, that's
Speaker 3: that's the mission I've been on for years. It's just like,
Speaker 3: I don't really care who gets pissed off. If the
Speaker 3: truth shows itself, it needs to be known, Like why
Speaker 3: why should we be hiding behind all this? Oh we
Speaker 3: can't talk about that because, you know, because it breaks paradigms,
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's what I'm here for.
Speaker 4: It breaks generational curses. I mean, that's that's all you
Speaker 4: can call it. By by erasing all this memory, we
Speaker 4: could be so much further ahead than we are right now,
Speaker 4: and they have to keep us in that box.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's insane. Think about the antikytheria device.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, right, just fell off a boat.
Speaker 4: And then you've got this anti computer and they're like, oh,
Speaker 4: but it doesn't actually work that well, right, Really you're.
Speaker 3: Telling us that, yeah, yeah, and that's just stuff we've
Speaker 3: been shown too, Like just think about what we haven't
Speaker 3: been shown. Stuff in closets, stuff in vaults. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people go, oh, well, I
Speaker 3: bet I would love to raid the Vatican Library. But yeah,
Speaker 3: but could you read any of that stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but still we need to know this stuff. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: we're just like floating when you're in a place where
Speaker 3: you don't have the coordinates to everything, your lot, and
Speaker 3: you're lost, your controlled, And that's how that's what they're doing.
Speaker 3: They're controlling us because we're a lost species. We don't
Speaker 3: understand where we came from, what we're here for, what
Speaker 3: our powers are. Like you said, ten percent of our brain,
Speaker 3: that's all we use. Three percent of our DNA. We're unconnected,
Speaker 3: And that's perfect recipe to control people and slave them.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, just people like us are at
Speaker 3: least asking questions, but like a lot of people don't
Speaker 3: even care. They don't even care, they don't even care.
Speaker 1: Its perfect example I was watching the opening of a
Speaker 1: time capsule that was inside the Roberty Leaf statue when
Speaker 1: the Sjaws took it down. They open this.
Speaker 4: Thing up, and she's picking through all these documents, and
Speaker 4: then she finds a postcard from the Knight's Templar, and
Speaker 4: she immediately audibly says, oh, no, she did not want
Speaker 4: to find that, because now there's something they have to
Speaker 4: explain live on video. Why are the Knights Templar sending
Speaker 4: out postcards in the time of Robert E.
Speaker 1: Lee?
Speaker 2: What's going on with that? Making a statement? Yes, right,
Speaker 2: they're sending their memes up.
Speaker 4: And so it couldn't be any more obvious that all
Speaker 4: of this stuff has just been so blatantly covered up.
Speaker 4: And I don't think we're you know, they say we're
Speaker 4: entering this information age, But all I see is is
Speaker 4: them priming these new tools that they have for new
Speaker 4: forms of censorship, new forms of.
Speaker 1: Divide and conquer.
Speaker 4: I think that's why it's more important than ever to,
Speaker 4: you know, get involved and actually look up the people
Speaker 4: who claim to be influencers in this arena. You'll find
Speaker 4: that a lot of them are just totally inauthentic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree. And we do spend way too
Speaker 3: much time on social media too, Like, think about all
Speaker 3: the time we could be spending or reading things versus like,
Speaker 3: we have all the information in the world almost on
Speaker 3: these phones, and what do people do. They look at
Speaker 3: pictures of themselves and their family or your friends doing
Speaker 3: dumb shit, and meanwhile we have access to the most
Speaker 3: information we've ever had access to. I'm not saying everything's
Speaker 3: on the internet because I think we have to read
Speaker 3: books still, That's what I think. But yeah, we could
Speaker 3: be doing a lot more with all this, and they
Speaker 3: got us distracted. I see, you know, AI coming in
Speaker 3: as you know, it's like Elon Musk was against AI supposedly,
Speaker 3: and now he's just closed in his way. Yeah right,
Speaker 3: they're all this doing that. It's just like they're they're
Speaker 3: putting it in either way, you know, Oh you know,
Speaker 3: the fake the fake the fake alternative media is what
Speaker 3: I've been calling it, because they're putting in all this
Speaker 3: stuff that everybody is resisting, but because it's coming from
Speaker 3: them that people on the questioning side are like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I guess it's okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And we're just now starting to see the infrastructure coming
Speaker 4: to place so they haven't yet begun to fight on that.
Speaker 4: And there's so much money wrapped up in the idea
Speaker 4: of censoring shit off the Internet that you've got to
Speaker 4: find your tribes. We got to start thinking like a tribe,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I mean so like you know, I
Speaker 3: think it's pretty obvious now, like when you get Trump.
Speaker 3: Trump never talked about putting Stargate in in his campaigns
Speaker 3: or getting acquiring Greenland, but then those are the things
Speaker 3: he's the third second day's in, he signs Stargate, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is the real agenda. And I don't know this
Speaker 3: alternative media has been hijacked for sure, Like there's people
Speaker 3: like us that are true, authentic people, but there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people that are in there that I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't mean to go off on this tangent, but
Speaker 3: it's just like it's true, there's a lot of people
Speaker 3: in there that are fooling, a lot of people that
Speaker 3: are questioning, especially since COVID, because a lot of people
Speaker 3: woke up from that time and they're just hungry now.
Speaker 3: But they're easy to get from with all these others
Speaker 3: smaller I guess you could say syops, right, But.
Speaker 4: I mean Once people realize that everything that's going on
Speaker 4: in politics has been the most choreographed, well manicured show
Speaker 4: in the history of mankind, it starts to become a
Speaker 4: little bit more obvious that you have to go back
Speaker 4: before these people and you have to find out what
Speaker 4: they're trying to.
Speaker 1: Hide, because that's where the real power.
Speaker 3: Is, right, Yeah, exactly. I mean the cover up's deep
Speaker 3: because like for example, go Beckley Teppe, I touched this
Speaker 3: on this on the documentary. They planted olive trees over
Speaker 3: the site too, and they halted large scale excavation for
Speaker 3: the next one hundred and fifty years. And who did that?
Speaker 3: Members of the World Economic Forum. But so like they
Speaker 3: don't want people to possibly dig up the oldest temple
Speaker 3: in the world and what they might find something, you know,
Speaker 3: The cover up goes into also this place in Indonesia,
Speaker 3: that pyramid they found gom Pedang, same people covering it up.
Speaker 3: They don't want people digging in Giza, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: and that's just that stuff, but the smaller things too,
Speaker 3: just finding like here in Hawaii, if you find some bones,
Speaker 3: you got to report it immediately, you know, little things
Speaker 3: like that. This cover up's all over and it may
Speaker 3: not be the biggest thing that they're trying to focus on,
Speaker 3: but if you look, they've been keeping us from knowing
Speaker 3: all this forever, so it is really one of the
Speaker 3: biggest things.
Speaker 1: Well I got a good example of that.
Speaker 4: So they found non human mummies in South America with
Speaker 4: three fingers, and what they have confirmed is that these
Speaker 4: are non human mummies. And I think that's as much
Speaker 4: disclosure as we're going to get because I don't think
Speaker 4: they're interested in studying that anymore.
Speaker 3: Were they the elongated skull, ones, elongated skull and three fingers,
Speaker 3: and they confirmed that these were not human.
Speaker 4: They didn't have the same DNA as us, So who
Speaker 4: did the mummifying and what's going on with the alien
Speaker 4: creatures that we know are now mummified on the planet.
Speaker 4: They didn't say that it wasn't native, but it was
Speaker 4: not a human creature, so.
Speaker 3: Right, And in Malta when I went to Malta, they
Speaker 3: have elongated skulls, no sagin little future here. They're not
Speaker 3: what we know of as humans. And I had what's
Speaker 3: his name, Brian Forrester on my show about three years ago,
Speaker 3: and he said, yeah, we carbondated those elongated schools in
Speaker 3: South America and they date back to only about two
Speaker 3: thousand years ago, So only about two thousand years ago,
Speaker 3: This earth can have been quite quite a bit more
Speaker 3: different than we think it was, with different types of
Speaker 3: beings walking around. I mean, you know, who knows what.
Speaker 4: Studying studying the Bible and ancient cultures and listening to
Speaker 4: what they have to say about religion and how they
Speaker 4: saw the world. It was so much different than what
Speaker 4: we expect, and the rituals and everything else is just
Speaker 4: it's fascinating how it influences today's mind. Like, have you
Speaker 4: ever heard of why they call it ostracism. No, the
Speaker 4: Athenians voted on these shards of pottery called ostracans, and
Speaker 4: these ostrakans they would etch people's names into, but after
Speaker 4: they would ostracize them and they'd have to leave. They
Speaker 4: would use these ostra cons for anal hygiene. This is
Speaker 4: where we get the idea of smearing somebody's name.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, and it.
Speaker 4: Fully survives in this ancestral memory. And so we've got
Speaker 4: all these terms we use, but we have no idea
Speaker 4: where it.
Speaker 3: Comes from, right, Well, that is getting ostracized smear campaign.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: So weird how the proportions add up.
Speaker 3: I know someone wrote in the chat here the Chinese pyramids,
Speaker 3: so that's a great example of that too. They bury them.
Speaker 3: I'm on purpose. So one of the people that's in
Speaker 3: my documentary, his name is Mike Collins. He goes around
Speaker 3: the world. He's a YouTuber. Maybe you guys have seen him.
Speaker 3: I don't know. He he just films all this stuff.
Speaker 3: But when he went to the caves in China, I
Speaker 3: think they're called the Yongview Caves, Chinese government purposely etched
Speaker 3: in new carvings on the wall to replace basically what
Speaker 3: was there. So it's not just like an agenda that
Speaker 3: spans a few countries like it's worldwide. So it just
Speaker 3: shows you how big of a cover up it is.
Speaker 3: I mean everywhere you go.
Speaker 4: What I like to remind people of is that Antarctica
Speaker 4: is where all of these countries get along in perfect harmony.
Speaker 4: We're supposed to believe that they're going into wars against
Speaker 4: each other up here and then just getting along perfectly
Speaker 4: down there. You know how many missile systems you could
Speaker 4: put in from Antarctica.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's why they had.
Speaker 1: The Antarctic Treaties.
Speaker 4: Because they didn't want it militarized because then you could
Speaker 4: hit anybody on the planet.
Speaker 3: You know, what I realized is there, we already pretty
Speaker 3: much have a world government. Look what happened during COVID,
Speaker 3: Like everybody was on the same page, reading the same
Speaker 3: song sheets. I mean, it's not like it's not like
Speaker 3: there was really any resistors. Like there was two or
Speaker 3: three African countries that weren't on the same page. One
Speaker 3: guy leader, he's like, oh, we don't need your we
Speaker 3: don't need your vaccine or whatever, and yep, he gets
Speaker 3: dies of a heart attack. You know, so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they're already this is a whole illusion game of country
Speaker 3: against country. We already have everybody on the same page.
Speaker 3: An artic is a perfect example of that, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Right, And you find them doing these human sacrifice rituals,
Speaker 1: which is war because they don't need to do it.
Speaker 1: Nobody needs.
Speaker 4: I mean, what's going on right now between all these
Speaker 4: different nations is not an accident. It's deliberately caused so
Speaker 4: that they can get rid of the population and they
Speaker 4: all kind of play on the same side. None of
Speaker 4: them ever die in these wars, you know, no, not
Speaker 4: for seventy five eighty years, you know.
Speaker 3: Just the order followers, the same people that continue to
Speaker 3: tell you what to do when all these false flags happen.
Speaker 3: The same you know, the people that just don't have
Speaker 3: it's like they don't have a soul of their own,
Speaker 3: you know, because they don't have a will of their own,
Speaker 3: so they just they can always get moregons. That's that's
Speaker 3: the problem. It's like, those are the people I've always
Speaker 3: say we got to wake up, but it's a really
Speaker 3: tough job. They're extra mine controlled, you know, and they're
Speaker 3: part of the rich.
Speaker 1: Blackmail is nothing new. Blackmail is a super super old
Speaker 1: technology that's been working ever since then.
Speaker 4: And it's only recently that we've started to ask the
Speaker 4: questions who is blackmailing who?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, totally. I mean it's a whole world of blackmail,
Speaker 3: isn't it everywhere? I I mean it goes down to
Speaker 3: local levels of politics and or or Hollywood or everything.
Speaker 3: Everybody's blackmail. Everybody's got some dirt on somebody, and that's
Speaker 3: how they keep it in check on that level. And
Speaker 3: then they got their order followers, and yeah, they got
Speaker 3: a pretty they've got a pretty good system going on there.
Speaker 3: I have to say, they are pretty, they're pretty smart.
Speaker 3: They're not intelligent, but they're smart.
Speaker 1: Right. I think of Janice, right, So Janice, the Roman
Speaker 1: god with the two faces sort of represents what we've
Speaker 1: been given ever since Roman times.
Speaker 4: It's like you've got the public face and then you've
Speaker 4: got the private face. As long as we keep those
Speaker 4: two separate, we can rule everything we touch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sounds about right.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: Well, this has been a great episode.
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining me. I think we went all
Speaker 4: over the map. Is there anything you want to plug
Speaker 4: your movie, your books?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So Sacred Site is only on Rumble right now.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a docuseries. There's a streaming service
Speaker 3: that might pick it up, so I had to yank
Speaker 3: it off YouTube, but I'm blacklisted anyway on there, so
Speaker 3: it wasn't going anywhere anyway. And I'm not sure if
Speaker 3: a streaming service will take her or not because I'm
Speaker 3: talking about stuff did they probably don't like. But we'll see.
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. And so right now you can
Speaker 3: catch the theat version I call it on my Rumble channel,
Speaker 3: which is Channa doown Radio or channed down Radio, and
Speaker 3: then the the the director's cut is on my Patreon
Speaker 3: at the moment, but soon enough the docu series is
Speaker 3: gonna have two episodes that cover have all the footage
Speaker 3: from all over the world, and I will just give
Speaker 3: a quick little shout out our a little show of
Speaker 3: who's in it, just so people might want to see
Speaker 3: some of these names you may have never heard of,
Speaker 3: but let's see Triffin of Unlocking the Code podcasts, said Lamb,
Speaker 3: Zach Royer, Mike Collins, Nick Yanna Jones, ol A Demaguard,
Speaker 3: William Ramsey, Sean McCann, Paul Wallace, Bob Tuskin, Heather Arnold.
Speaker 3: So that's the people that are in it, a very
Speaker 3: eclectic group of voices. I wanted that on purpose, so
Speaker 3: people aren't just getting one perspective, but a variety, you know,
Speaker 3: so they can kind of go, oh, what's this person's
Speaker 3: work and what's he's that person saying? And my podcast
Speaker 3: is chane it down. I've been doing it twelve years now,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's just a continuation of everything I've
Speaker 3: been shown to do how this world works. And I've
Speaker 3: had Nick on a while back, doing maybe a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a it was like
Speaker 2: maybe my first year podcasting. It was early for me.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you're an og you've been around for.
Speaker 3: Well now I am. It's crazy how time flies.
Speaker 2: As you said, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, twelve years. Yeah, so yeah, that's where you
Speaker 3: can find me. Chane it down on Instagram. We kind
Speaker 3: of went all over the place. It's good because this
Speaker 3: information really is It's like, you can't just yeah it's
Speaker 3: the ancient past, but everything we know, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: the read the reason the world is the way it is.
Speaker 4: It's also good self defense too, because I think when
Speaker 4: people realize that they really can't trust anything that's coming
Speaker 4: out of the system, they start to focus on what
Speaker 4: they can do to help themselves and their communities out.
Speaker 4: That's that's a huge issue. You know, we got to
Speaker 4: get back into into the mode of thinking outside of
Speaker 4: these machines.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not helping us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's not. No, it's not like, yeah, well,
Speaker 3: you know, it's good for people to listen to podcasts
Speaker 3: like this. It's good for people to start talking to people. Look,
Speaker 3: I don't I'll be honest, I'm pretty discouraged over the years,
Speaker 3: especially since COVID. I was very disappointed in humanity. But
Speaker 3: the people that shine shine, and those are the people
Speaker 3: that are my friends and the people that are trying
Speaker 3: to say something and understand the world we're really living in.
Speaker 3: So so I can say, hopefully we get somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost forgot.
Speaker 4: I got to ask you about the Nights of Malta. Okay,
Speaker 4: you know how connected they were to the Kennedy assassination
Speaker 4: and all the rest of that.
Speaker 1: So you went to Malta. Did you actually see their
Speaker 1: ample there?
Speaker 3: And I did, Yeah, I didn't get to go, and
Speaker 3: so I was busy looking for the grand Master's Lodge.
Speaker 3: I wanted to film that thing. Everybody asked didn't even
Speaker 3: know what the hell I'm talking about. It's not because
Speaker 3: of the language barrier, they just didn't know that. They
Speaker 3: didn't know. So I wasted time doing that, and I'm
Speaker 3: mainly there to film the megalithic sites. So then my
Speaker 3: time was short there and I didn't get to go
Speaker 3: in Saint John's Cathedral, which I'm really kicking myself from
Speaker 3: because but you've seen the pictures, Yes, I've seen the pictures.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable artwork and just masterful architecture right that.
Speaker 1: Place is like it's stunning.
Speaker 4: And you know, the Knights of Malta they have diplomatic
Speaker 4: immunity in every country on the planet.
Speaker 3: And they have a seat of the United Nations.
Speaker 1: What isn't that a little bit too obvious?
Speaker 4: People they can kill anybody they want to anywhere in
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and just get away with it. And their
Speaker 3: members aren't just religious Catholics. I mean there are some
Speaker 3: pretty horrible people that have been involved in that, like like,
Speaker 3: what's that British guy that was a molester and uh
Speaker 3: necrophiliac damn it. Uh, I can't remember his name, But
Speaker 3: just people like that are like those aren't devout Catholics. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 3: you're talking.
Speaker 1: About the guy from England who was friends with Prince Chomo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Prince Mala Chance.
Speaker 3: Who's that Prince Jean Oh yeah yeah, Prince Shaws. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a diddler too, Yeah he is, he is, he
Speaker 3: is uh Jimmy Jimmy Savell that yeah, yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: he's a Knights of Malta. Actually, I had William Ramsay
Speaker 3: on my show a little bit ago, and he was
Speaker 3: showing and discussing about the whole Trump cabinets full of
Speaker 3: Knights and Malta members. So yes, you know, in terms.
Speaker 4: Of insane religious organizations, the one that can get away
Speaker 4: with murder has got me worried.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a high level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and nobody talks about it. It's been funny.
Speaker 4: I've never heard Alex Jones say a word about the
Speaker 4: Knights of Malta or the Society of Cincinnati, huh, or
Speaker 4: the Cosmos Club, right, or the Pilgrim Society.
Speaker 3: I've never heard him talk about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just World Economic Forum in Buildeberg.
Speaker 1: None of the actual decision makers, you know, no, no,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, we'll end it there. Thank you for
Speaker 1: joining us.
Speaker 4: This is thanks for having me on Headless Giant Podcast.
Speaker 1: We'll see you again next time.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys,