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Speaker 2: long in your rear view mirror. I bet it is.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I know the feeling. I know the feeling. Okay,
Speaker 2: we have four interesting guests coming up at the first
Speaker 2: hour a little bit later on sight Boy, if you
Speaker 2: live in Summerville, you better shovel your drive, your sidewalk
Speaker 2: or you could be in big trouble. I'm gonna talk
Speaker 2: about that at nine o'clock, and then we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about baggage bin battles on airlines across the country.
Speaker 2: I think it's nuts. Flying has become a problem. It's
Speaker 2: not what it is to be. Let's put it like that,
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of it has been contributed
Speaker 2: by the airlines. We'll get to all of that. First off,
Speaker 2: like to to introduce you to Alex Spear. Alex is
Speaker 2: the director of Marketing and Audience Development at the Bosston
Speaker 2: Symphony Orchestra. Alex, Welcome to Night Side. How are you tonight?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you Dan so much for the
Speaker 3: warm introduction. I'm doing great. I know it's cold out,
Speaker 3: but i have visions of summer already in my mind
Speaker 3: and I'm super happy to talk with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cold, I think it was beautiful today. I mean
Speaker 2: it was almost like summer like today, the wind would
Speaker 2: die down. And who doesn't want to talk about Tanglewood
Speaker 2: at any time of the year, And we're going to
Speaker 2: talk tonight about Tanglewood, which is right around the corner
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, one of the great great
Speaker 2: activities of the summer here in New England Tanglewood. The
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Popular Artist Series lineup. Tell us about
Speaker 2: some of the great acts musical acts that we're going
Speaker 2: to see out of Tanglewood this summer.
Speaker 3: Alex Yeah, absolutely, I have to say the Popularist Series
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite parts of the job. We
Speaker 3: get to create this really cool lineup of folks from
Speaker 3: the rock and the folk and jazz sectors are coming
Speaker 3: together to this incredibly beautiful space to have a party basically.
Speaker 3: So this year we've got some really cool stuff coming
Speaker 3: up up front. In June, we have a Prairie Home
Speaker 3: Companion that hasn't been at Tanglewood in about five years
Speaker 3: or so, and we're super excited to welcome back this
Speaker 3: like really cool comedy musical storytelling event with the host
Speaker 3: Garrison Keeler. So this is something that I've heard from
Speaker 3: folks far and wide that they've come to Tanglewood to
Speaker 3: see in the past. Now's the time to come see
Speaker 3: it again. We're super excited to welcome Garrison and.
Speaker 2: A five year absence. Yeah, he's off in a fixture
Speaker 2: in a lot of folks mind. Yeah, that's great. Where's
Speaker 2: he ben? The question? He should be there every year.
Speaker 3: He's very I agree. You know, he was doing a
Speaker 3: solo tour in New England last year and I went
Speaker 3: up in the summer and I saw him in it
Speaker 3: and it was one of the most fun things I've
Speaker 3: seen in a long while. So we cannot contain our
Speaker 3: excitement to welcoming back Une twenty first.
Speaker 2: He's June twenty or seven o'clock. And then you get
Speaker 2: James Taylor for two nights of the Night before the
Speaker 2: fourth and the night of the fourth.
Speaker 3: That's right, you know, James Taylor is the Tanglewood legend.
Speaker 3: He has been with us for decades, coming on the
Speaker 3: July fourth and the July third evenings. These are really
Speaker 3: special concerts. You know, people come from fire and wide
Speaker 3: to hear their favorite songs. You know, everybody's got a favorite.
Speaker 3: Mine might be you know, Carolina on my mind, and
Speaker 3: he just creates this really intimate evening even though there are,
Speaker 3: you know, thousands of people with you enjoying an incredible
Speaker 3: living legend. And if you get to come on July fourth,
Speaker 3: you get to see fireworks too, and that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to warn folks. The concert on the
Speaker 2: fourth of July on your website says it's already sold out,
Speaker 2: So if they're James Taylor fans, they better be thinking
Speaker 2: about July third pretty quickly because that will probably sell
Speaker 2: out pretty quickly. So it says sold out July.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right, We're currently sold out. I always
Speaker 3: check the website. You never know what shows up, all right,
Speaker 3: And then yeah, moving on after that July eighth, we're
Speaker 3: really excited to welcome Baar Naked Ladies. They're doing a
Speaker 3: tour with Sugar Ray and Fastball and so you know,
Speaker 3: this is the perfect nineties two thousands nostalgia tour. There
Speaker 3: on top of their game, they're going to play the
Speaker 3: greatest hits. It's gonna be a really fun party. You know.
Speaker 3: I was just listening this week to one week and
Speaker 3: every morning, and it's just it took me back right
Speaker 3: to the moment. So I think it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: really cool experience.
Speaker 2: Here's my question. Okay, For first of all, July eighth
Speaker 2: is my birthday, so that's always very special. I do
Speaker 2: not share birthday. Were oh J. Simpson, he was July ninth,
Speaker 2: I'm July eighth. But Beard Naked and eight Ladies I
Speaker 2: could never figure. And I know a lot of sports
Speaker 2: less about music. Where did they come up with that
Speaker 2: idea beard naked ladies? They're not ladies and they're not
Speaker 2: bare naked.
Speaker 3: That is a great question. I don't have the answer
Speaker 3: for why they chose the name, but they they I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, early nineties, late eighties. You want to choose
Speaker 3: a name that gets you recognitions.
Speaker 2: Good one. Yeah, a lot of people showed up to
Speaker 2: the concert not not expecting what they got. But that's
Speaker 2: that's neat. They're hearing it there and then later on
Speaker 2: later we're on in the summer, you got Emmy Lou
Speaker 2: Harris and Graham Nash tell us about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So this is a really special concert
Speaker 3: because they're both going to perform. They're each going to perform.
Speaker 3: They're full sets, so they're going to do a first
Speaker 3: half the second half where they're going to come on
Speaker 3: stage independently and they're going to sing their greatest hits.
Speaker 3: And Emmy Lou, Harris Graham Nash are some of the
Speaker 3: best composers of their their day and probably even today.
Speaker 3: And you know, Graham Nash found of Crosby, Stills, Nash
Speaker 3: and Young. You know, he's written some really legendary classics
Speaker 3: and he has a good blend of this kind of
Speaker 3: folk rock, social commentary. He's definitely a voice of the generation.
Speaker 3: And so is Emmy Lou, who is going to just
Speaker 3: kind of give us a night of storytelling magic.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: This is a great lineup, and you finish off sadly
Speaker 2: on the night of August thirty first, which is always
Speaker 2: a tough night because you're trying to hold on the summer.
Speaker 2: The next day is September first, But you've got a
Speaker 2: great artist on the thirty first of August.
Speaker 3: We absolutely do. Bonnie Ray is going to come back
Speaker 3: to Tanglewood, and she is a legend. She is just
Speaker 3: you know, slide guitar, soulful voice. She's going to sing,
Speaker 3: you know, all the hits that you know and love.
Speaker 3: She's literally a powerhouse and she brings the house down.
Speaker 3: So I'd say keep your eyes open. We might be
Speaker 3: announcing other stuff in the future. Hint, hints, check our
Speaker 3: website Tanglewood dot org. But it's going to be a great,
Speaker 3: great season.
Speaker 2: Okay, So look, you get tickets to Tanglewood dot org.
Speaker 2: It's never too early to do it, you know. Make
Speaker 2: sure the seats don't go allway. It's it is a
Speaker 2: jewel of every summer in New England and I just, uh,
Speaker 2: it warms me right now just to think about this.
Speaker 2: I'm ready for summer. I'm ready for spring. Alex, your
Speaker 2: great guest, you, your enthusiasm is contagious. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for joining us tonight, and the best of luck
Speaker 2: with this summer and keep us posted on and they
Speaker 2: have the guests you have. We always like to talk
Speaker 2: about good summer evenings. I mean, we don't have as
Speaker 2: many as we deserve here in New England, and they're
Speaker 2: all great at Tanglewood.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3: I'll see you on the lune.
Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope, so thanks Alex. All right,
Speaker 2: waken back. We're going to talk about an other New
Speaker 2: England tradition. Perhaps not as well known as Tanglewood, but
Speaker 2: the black Stone Heritage card trail. I'm gonna be talking
Speaker 2: with Donald Williams on the other side of this break.
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
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Speaker 2: Well, last segment we talked about Tanglewood in the summer,
Speaker 2: let's talk about the black Stone Heritage. Carter's in the spring.
Speaker 2: They have a spring hiking series and with us as
Speaker 2: Donna Williams, he's just board member of the Blackstone Heritage Karda.
Speaker 2: Donald Wiideside.
Speaker 4: Hello, Jan, I'm so glad to be here. Thanks so
Speaker 4: much for having me.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you were here too. When I had
Speaker 2: a little hesitation, I said, boy, I hope Donna is here.
Speaker 2: So tell us I think everyone knows in New England
Speaker 2: should know kind of the location of the Blackstone River.
Speaker 2: It's down kind of in the southeast corner of the state,
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit more towards the middle southeast corner
Speaker 2: of the state. If you will locate us for us
Speaker 2: and tell us about this great series you have these
Speaker 2: trail Ambassadors. How long have you folks been doing.
Speaker 4: This, Well, we've had the Trail Ambassadors have been active
Speaker 4: for well, they were active before COVID, and then it
Speaker 4: kind of took a hiatus during COVID, although people were
Speaker 4: certainly out and about a whole lot more in the
Speaker 4: fresh air. But now since COVID they've done many, many
Speaker 4: of these hikes. They've just finished up the Winter series
Speaker 4: and now we're doing the Spring series. But your correct
Speaker 4: is to the location of the Blackstone River. But what
Speaker 4: this all is part of is the Blackstone River Valley
Speaker 4: National Heritage Corridor, which is a geographic area that encompasses
Speaker 4: twenty five communities, towns and cities from Worcester all the
Speaker 4: way to Providence. And this area is nationally significant and
Speaker 4: it's known as the birthplace of the American Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 2: Sure, so, how many different how many different trails are
Speaker 2: there to choose from these trails that are laid out?
Speaker 2: Or are these trails that want of your ambassadors would
Speaker 2: know and he would take people on a hike through
Speaker 2: the woods? Explain that to us.
Speaker 4: Well, there are twelve hikes planned with the Leader between
Speaker 4: March eighth and June fourteenth. They're on Saturday or Sunday
Speaker 4: once a week through those months, and they're on existing trails.
Speaker 4: Some of them are in state forests, some of them
Speaker 4: are at farms conservation areas.
Speaker 2: How challenging it, I'm sure people out there saying, she,
Speaker 2: I'd like to do this, But we're talking about up
Speaker 2: and down hillsides? Are they do you have to have
Speaker 2: special equipment or is it something that most folks can do?
Speaker 2: How long are we talking about I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: make sure that people take advantage of this if they're
Speaker 2: if they are able to, that's.
Speaker 4: All right, varying levels of expertise. You never need equipment
Speaker 4: you might want to bring your hiking poles, but often
Speaker 4: it's it's flat. But it's always on trails that are
Speaker 4: well marked and UH people can find out, well.
Speaker 2: You're not really you're not talking when you when you
Speaker 2: hear the word trails, you're not talking about you know,
Speaker 2: going up a half a mile or whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: and then having to come down and or over rocks
Speaker 2: or anything there. It's it's fairly flat ground. And how
Speaker 2: how long a couple of miles each or more?
Speaker 4: Well it firies. Some of them are four miles, some
Speaker 4: are two. People can find out more about these UH
Speaker 4: trail hikes on our website Blackstone Heritage Quarter dot org
Speaker 4: and they can.
Speaker 2: All We'll give that a couple of times because that's important.
Speaker 2: They also can do what.
Speaker 4: They can also RSDP on the website for these for
Speaker 4: these trails, and they give a good description of each
Speaker 4: of the trails and the degree of difficulty. None of
Speaker 4: them are difficult.
Speaker 2: But what's the cost associated with this? Is there a ticket?
Speaker 2: And then I assume you you give a little bit
Speaker 2: of a gratuity to your to your guide.
Speaker 4: Well, no, no, this is all free and it's it's
Speaker 4: these are the leaders are volunteers, uh Phil from Massachusetts
Speaker 4: and Ernie in Rhode Island. They volunteer their time and
Speaker 4: expertise because they love being out in the woods and
Speaker 4: exploring them with new folks and helping all of them
Speaker 4: learn to love this area.
Speaker 2: Any special I'm assuming that folks should at least wear
Speaker 2: their most comfortable shoes. You don't want to be out
Speaker 2: there on high heels, I assume. And is it smart
Speaker 2: to have uh, you know, pants that are long pants,
Speaker 2: and maybe even pants that are are you can tie
Speaker 2: them up a little bit so you're not picking up
Speaker 2: ticks or something like that. I don't want to intimidate anyone,
Speaker 2: but I just want to make sure that they show
Speaker 2: up prepared.
Speaker 4: Well, did you raise a good point. Yes, it's a
Speaker 4: good idea to have long pants on. Maybe tuck your
Speaker 4: pants into your socks, but good hiking shoes, long sleeves, hat, sunglasses, sunscreen.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, Well, I just think that you and I
Speaker 2: might take that for granted, but someone might not. So
Speaker 2: I assume, because they're different trails, you'll get directions as
Speaker 2: to where you would park. I assume that there's a
Speaker 2: meeting place for each of these these trails.
Speaker 4: Heads correct, Yes, and that is on the website.
Speaker 3: It's very specific.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bet trails and where they start.
Speaker 4: Usually they're loops. Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, because when you're done, that's for sure. And
Speaker 2: people can bring can they bring some refreshments with them
Speaker 2: if they want to, you know, bring some water or
Speaker 2: or ginger ale or something. I assume that's.
Speaker 4: Allowed, absolutely, and it is recommended to bring bring water,
Speaker 4: especially to keep yourselfs hydrated.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's do this. And by the way, all ages,
Speaker 2: as long as people look at the website and make
Speaker 2: sure whether they're you know, six or ninety six, I.
Speaker 4: Assume yes, that's correct.
Speaker 2: Give us that website one more time so that people
Speaker 2: can get to there as easily.
Speaker 4: Yep. Blackstone Heritage Corridor dot com. So the first one, yep, yep.
Speaker 4: All onward and the first one.
Speaker 2: Give us the date in the first one, I'm getting up.
Speaker 2: I'm coming up on our newscast at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the hour, which I got to cut away. So when
Speaker 2: is the when's the first one start? How soon?
Speaker 4: Saturday March eighth, that's a week from.
Speaker 2: It's like a couple of weeks from now. That's great. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Rainer Shine at this rainer, shine or snowstorm. I assume.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well like football games, the football game goes on
Speaker 2: whatever the weather, so I just want to make sure
Speaker 2: that everybody dresses appropriately. Well. Donna, thank you very much
Speaker 2: for all of the information. I know I pushed you
Speaker 2: a little bit here to try to get as much
Speaker 2: information in as possible, but I want to make sure
Speaker 2: many of our listeners take advantage of this. It sounds
Speaker 2: like a great opportunity, and it's it's not very expensive
Speaker 2: at all. It's just going to make sure perfect all right,
Speaker 2: Thanks again, Donna. Well, we'll maybe talk about this one
Speaker 2: more time before uh maybe sometime in April. We can
Speaker 2: catch up with you and give you a little bit
Speaker 2: of plug for some of the some of the other
Speaker 2: events and activities. Okay, you good guests, Thank you so.
Speaker 4: Much, Thank you so much. Bite You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Coming back right after the news at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the ar I'm right on time. It's eight thirty. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk with a concept called peaceful parenting. Stay
Speaker 2: with us on Night Side.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, many of us during our lifetime we'll experiencing parenting
Speaker 2: as parents all of us experiencing experienced parenting while we're children,
Speaker 2: and with us is Kiva Schulch. She's an author and
Speaker 2: founder of an institute for parenting. I want to pronounce
Speaker 2: this correctly, Kiva. Is it the High Institute or Jay
Speaker 2: Jay Jai Jai Institute for Parenting? And you talk about
Speaker 2: peaceful parenting? I think I know what you mean by that,
Speaker 2: but I'd like to hear your explanation of what is
Speaker 2: peaceful parenting.
Speaker 5: It's funny. I started the Gaian Institute for Parenting in
Speaker 5: two thousand and nine, and we've moved away from that
Speaker 5: word a little bit because it can be misleading. Parenting
Speaker 5: is not always peaceful. Children are certainly not always peaceful.
Speaker 5: This idea that as parents we can work on our
Speaker 5: own emotional intelligence, our communication strategies, and our leadership so
Speaker 5: that we are providing mentorship and guidance to children rather
Speaker 5: than reacting to behavior or reacting to external pressure is
Speaker 5: how I would define it.
Speaker 4: But I understand it's a tricky word.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is, and I know it's been around for
Speaker 2: a while. It's called The Peaceful Parenting. Your book, I believe,
Speaker 2: is called The Peaceful parenting revolution. We are in parentheses
Speaker 2: or the peaceful parenting evolution, changing the world by changing
Speaker 2: how we parent. A look at parenting styles and how
Speaker 2: they've changed. I think all of us understand that kids
Speaker 2: today are brought up differently than when kids my age
Speaker 2: in the fifties and sixties were brought up. Is it
Speaker 2: better today in your in your opinion? And were going
Speaker 2: in the right direction in terms of how we're rearing
Speaker 2: children raising children?
Speaker 5: You know, I like to move away from ideas of
Speaker 5: better or worse.
Speaker 4: It's different.
Speaker 5: We live in a completely different world.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: We grew up in a time where we didn't have
Speaker 5: social media. There wasn't so many external influences, you know,
Speaker 5: parenting our children, our parenting children in our absence. It's
Speaker 5: a different world. You know, when we were kids being
Speaker 5: raised to be compliant and follow the rules with kind of.
Speaker 4: The path to success.
Speaker 5: But kids today really need to be more collaborative, to
Speaker 5: be risk takers, to be innovators. It's just a different
Speaker 5: time and so that requires different skill sets in our
Speaker 5: leadership as parents.
Speaker 2: So what are the skill sets that parents today, uh need?
Speaker 2: I I am now a grandparent, and my son and
Speaker 2: his wife have a son, and they're hopefully keeping our
Speaker 2: fingers crossed on expecting a second and our daughter and
Speaker 2: her husband have at this point not become parents yet.
Speaker 2: But what what? What? What? Again? How does? How is
Speaker 2: it changed? I mean when when I was growing up
Speaker 2: and I had a you know, a parent and oftentimes
Speaker 2: your dad was like the drill sergeant and and your
Speaker 2: mom was the was the support. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, the more traditional parents of the nineteen fifties
Speaker 2: and sixties very different now response parent parental responsibilities are shared.
Speaker 2: Life is complicated. What should people take away from our conversation?
Speaker 2: Hopefully they're going to take away they're going to buy
Speaker 2: and read the book. But in case they do, what
Speaker 2: what What is the message that that that you want
Speaker 2: to impart to them?
Speaker 5: I think that every family is unique, and every child
Speaker 5: is unique, and it's important for us to consider what
Speaker 5: the values are that matter within our family ecosystem and
Speaker 5: how we are going to intentionally teach and model those
Speaker 5: values to our children. I think generations of kids and parents,
Speaker 5: you know, we always hear like the kids these days,
Speaker 5: and we're certainly hearing it now.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: Kids are entitled. Kids aren't launching. There's a lot of
Speaker 5: very real concerns around the mental health of children.
Speaker 2: Kids aren't launching.
Speaker 5: What does that mean, you know, aren't going out into
Speaker 5: the world and getting jobs. They're moving back in after college,
Speaker 5: you know, don't seem to be moving into adulthood with
Speaker 5: a sense of independence.
Speaker 2: What's a tough economy too. Kids today are being caught
Speaker 2: in this economy, you know different. So I want to
Speaker 2: make sure we're not blaming the kids on that one.
Speaker 2: If it's this exactly economy that we have created for them,
Speaker 2: and whether or not there's opportunities. Each generation, I guess
Speaker 2: has the concerns and the problems. But in terms of
Speaker 2: the relationship between parent and child, how do you strike
Speaker 2: that balance between being loving and supportive while not being indulgent.
Speaker 5: I think that balance is exactly the right word. So
Speaker 5: it is wholly possible to hold our children to high standards,
Speaker 5: to have expectations, to set limits, to have boundaries, and
Speaker 5: do that with compassion and empathy and guidance. You know,
Speaker 5: a lot of us were raised in ways where it
Speaker 5: was about taking us down a nature two and a
Speaker 5: lot of what we talk about at the Giant Institute
Speaker 5: for Parenting and in my books, the peaceful parenting revolution
Speaker 5: is scaffolding children up, building skills of communication, of how
Speaker 5: to express emotions and feel them without letting them be
Speaker 5: the thing that keeps you from doing hard things. I
Speaker 5: think this generation of kids hasn't quite frankly, been exposed
Speaker 5: and speaking generally to enough adversity and enough challenge, and
Speaker 5: that's where maturity comes from. And so our work at
Speaker 5: JAI is very parent centric because what we want to
Speaker 5: support parents to do is to understand why they're afraid
Speaker 5: of their kids having big feelings, or why they're afraid
Speaker 5: that they might get hurt or fail or have disappointments.
Speaker 5: That doesn't actually help in the long term.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've listened to psychiatrists who have said that the
Speaker 2: best thing a parent can do is allow their child
Speaker 2: to fail. Do you buy into that?
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Listen, life is hard. You know, we're all going
Speaker 5: to have failures. You know, fail more tends to be
Speaker 5: my way of thinking about, certainly how I've grown businesses
Speaker 5: over the years. And if you, you know, become an
Speaker 5: eighteen year old child who's never failed or never been disappointed.
Speaker 5: And obviously that's a little bit hyperbolic. It can be
Speaker 5: very destabilizing when and you know, my kids are in
Speaker 5: college now and I look at the parents boards. You know,
Speaker 5: when a kid doesn't get into the sorority they want,
Speaker 5: or they don't get the dorm they want, It's like,
Speaker 5: I want to celebrate that with my child instead of
Speaker 5: try to protect them from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I remember. I remember my grandparents particularly well,
Speaker 2: my paternal grandfather and both of my grandmothers. I didn't
Speaker 2: know my my I didn't know my paternal grandfather very well,
Speaker 2: but I knew my maternal grandfather and my maternal grandmother.
Speaker 2: She had a basically saying whenever we walked in the house,
Speaker 2: children should be seen and not heard. She was kind
Speaker 2: of old school, just a lot of us that, yeah,
Speaker 2: children should be seen and not heard. It was like, oh,
Speaker 2: sit in the room and be quiet. I assume that's
Speaker 2: no longer invokee. I hope.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean there's not a magical switch. And I think
Speaker 5: that's really changed. You know, I think that by and large,
Speaker 5: children are not treated that way, and especially here in Boston,
Speaker 5: right like, children are very valued and we want to
Speaker 5: engage them in conversation and include them in life and
Speaker 5: have them have an achievement orientation, right, want them to
Speaker 5: you know, debate at the dinner table and things like that.
Speaker 5: So I think that that, you know, that's probably not
Speaker 5: thing that a lot of us were parented with that
Speaker 5: were magically trying to shange. Well, this is amazing, incredible things.
Speaker 2: Obviously, my maternal grandmother has passed on. So I go
Speaker 2: back and I think I should be seen and not heard.
Speaker 2: I was a reporter on television here in Boston for
Speaker 2: thirty one years, so I was seen. But now I've
Speaker 2: been heard as a talk show host for eighteen years.
Speaker 2: So she got the first part right, but not the
Speaker 2: second part. I'm glad.
Speaker 5: I'm curious with things like that, like what age am
Speaker 5: I allowed to be seen and heard?
Speaker 4: Because they're like a switch at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, Well, it's an admonition that obviously I
Speaker 2: didn't comply with. Although when we were at the home
Speaker 2: of my maternal grandparents, we were very well behaved. I
Speaker 2: can remember they We enjoyed going there, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: And the highlight for me, one of the things that
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed was and again this is not this
Speaker 2: is grandparenting. I'm focusing on grandparenting. I guess a little
Speaker 2: bit more than I should because we're now a grandparent.
Speaker 2: I remember being playing checkers with my grandfather, my mom's dad,
Speaker 2: and he would never let me win. And I was
Speaker 2: eight or nine, and then I finally figured out how
Speaker 2: to win in checkers. I never let him win again,
Speaker 2: and think that.
Speaker 4: So much better than if you'd bt you win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So how can folks get the book?
Speaker 2: I'm sure that we have only scraped the surface, and
Speaker 2: I have enjoyed the conversation and thank you for indulging
Speaker 2: me to try to figure out my own upbringing. The
Speaker 2: book is the piece I love.
Speaker 5: Hearing your stories.
Speaker 4: Dan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can find the book on Amazon. The Peaceful
Speaker 5: Parenting Revolution and the GAI Institute for Parenting is the
Speaker 5: world's leading parent coach training organization and we're online at
Speaker 5: GI Institute for Parenting dot com.
Speaker 2: Now can people go to the GI Institute for Parenting
Speaker 2: and actually learn from you as to some of your theories.
Speaker 2: Obviously they can buy the book, and we want them
Speaker 2: to buy the book, but also attend either classes or
Speaker 2: seminars or what however you would describe them.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, we certify parenting coaches because the work that we
Speaker 5: do is parent centric and you know, teaching old dogs
Speaker 5: new tricks does take support and a judgment free container.
Speaker 5: So that's what coaches do. But we have so many
Speaker 5: resources there around yelling, emotional intelligence, empowered communication. So yeah,
Speaker 5: there's lots of good stuff, whether it's becoming a certified
Speaker 5: parenting coach with us or getting some of those free
Speaker 5: resources there on the site.
Speaker 2: Oh that's great. Kiva Schuler, the author and founder of
Speaker 2: the Jai Institute for Parenting. The book that is The
Speaker 2: Peaceful Parenting Revolution, available everywhere, particularly probably most easily on Amazon. Kiva.
Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed this conversation.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Diane.
Speaker 5: Such an honor to be here with you. Thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk again. I hope maybe we'll do
Speaker 2: this one more time sometime later on this year. Thanks again.
Speaker 2: Coming up right after the break, we're going to be
Speaker 2: talking with a Red Bull snowboarder. This is a courageous
Speaker 2: young woman named Grace Warner. There's no way I would
Speaker 2: even attempt to what she to do, what she's able
Speaker 2: to do. We'll be back on Night's side. She's with
Speaker 2: the Red Bull Heavy Metal twenty twenty five tour. I'll explain.
Speaker 1: Now. Back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we're wrapping up our eight o'clock hour here,
Speaker 2: and our fourth and final guest tonight is Grace Warner.
Speaker 2: She's a Red Bull snowboarder. I know what a Red
Speaker 2: Bull snowboarder is, Grace Warner, But why don't you explain
Speaker 2: it to my audience what you do which is something
Speaker 2: I would never even attempt. How were you tonight? Hi?
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just snowboard on handrails around the street.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so I assume that during the winter time
Speaker 2: you can snowboard on snow, right right, Okay, that's how
Speaker 2: you learned to snowboard soon, Yes, but.
Speaker 6: What you're going to see on Saturday is definitely a
Speaker 6: twist on the snowboarding that you're used to seeing.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you know. I want to make sure that
Speaker 2: everybody understands we've seen snowboardings now at Olympic sport.
Speaker 4: Correct, correct?
Speaker 2: Okay, WI your Olympic sport obviously, So you have taken
Speaker 2: those skills, and your colleagues have taken those skills, and
Speaker 2: you have applied them year round in whatever weather, and
Speaker 2: you use handrails, and you're going to be I believe,
Speaker 2: at Boston City Hall Plaza in the next few days.
Speaker 2: Tell us about that.
Speaker 6: Yes, So on Saturday, me and about fifty of my
Speaker 6: very talented snowboard friends will be at the City Hall
Speaker 6: and we're going to be showing off our skills on
Speaker 6: the stair sets and surrounding zones of that area. And
Speaker 6: it's going to be definitely a show that you're not
Speaker 6: gonna want to miss.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say you'd be displaying your skills because
Speaker 2: they are incredible. What do you do and what do
Speaker 2: your colleagues do? Amazes me. I would never try it
Speaker 2: at my age, and I certainly wouldn't have tried it
Speaker 2: at your age. How did you become a snowboard and
Speaker 2: we'll talk about the event that I'm just a little
Speaker 2: This is coming up on February twenty second, which is
Speaker 2: two days from now, so people need to need to
Speaker 2: rearrange their calendar for this weekend. How did you be
Speaker 2: Can I ask? You never supposed to ask anyone of
Speaker 2: their age these days, but I'm assuming this is a
Speaker 2: young person sport.
Speaker 6: I'm twenty four, okay, Well, I started snowboarding at four
Speaker 6: years old.
Speaker 2: I started snowboarding four years Did you grow up in
Speaker 2: in New England or a a winter type part of
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 6: I actually grew up in Detroit. We had like little,
Speaker 6: teeny little hills with toe ropes on them, and that's
Speaker 6: where I learned how to first carve on my snowboard,
Speaker 6: which led to me getting into the park.
Speaker 2: My was my producer was talking in my ear at
Speaker 2: one point. Where did you grow up? I'm just wondering
Speaker 2: if you If you if you tell me you grew
Speaker 2: up in Phoenix, Arizona, and you learned how to snowboard
Speaker 2: without the benefits of snow, that's interesting. If you tell
Speaker 2: me you grew up in Manitoba Winnipeg, I would understand
Speaker 2: that better. Where where did you How'd you learn this
Speaker 2: skill that early?
Speaker 6: I grew up near Detroit. Okay, Yeah, we have snow there,
Speaker 6: but not not mountains, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean Detroit. Detroit is north of some parts of Canada.
Speaker 2: Actually geographically, I'm sure you know that living in Detroit.
Speaker 2: A lot of people perhaps don't realize that. So, so,
Speaker 2: how have you turned this set of skills or the
Speaker 2: set of skills that you have. How did you figure out, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm really good at this and I can go on tour.
Speaker 2: You're a professional snowboarder, is what you are. I mean
Speaker 2: that I assume that this is your livelihood right.
Speaker 6: Right, It is my entire life. I think just growing
Speaker 6: up on a really small hill made snowboarding straight down
Speaker 6: the mountain and carving get really boring really fast. So
Speaker 6: I transitioned into park riding, and since we didn't have
Speaker 6: a lot of terrain for big jumps and things like that,
Speaker 6: it just led me to hitting rails and other features
Speaker 6: in the park, and then that led me to wanting
Speaker 6: to film in the street, similar to street skateboarding. If
Speaker 6: you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: That before, Oh yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: So how much of the year everybody knows the football season.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows when the baseball season is. How what what
Speaker 2: is your season? When do you start I've talked to
Speaker 2: rodeo people, I've talked to different you know, people who
Speaker 2: have you know, seasonal jobs. How long does your does
Speaker 2: your schedule, your annual schedule run? When do you guys
Speaker 2: start out on the road doing this and when do
Speaker 2: you wrap it up?
Speaker 6: So it kind of depends on what kind of snowboarder.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 6: Most of us just chase the snow wherever, Like you
Speaker 6: can snowboard year round around the globe anywhere, because you
Speaker 6: can chase winter throughout the whole year. But usually I'll
Speaker 6: start like early November to end of March.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: But there's places to snowboard over the summer for sure,
Speaker 6: so kind of year round. I'm always always on board.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I remember learning in school that in the
Speaker 2: Southern Hemisphere winter was our summer and vice. So I
Speaker 2: get that. What's the what is the professional life expectancy
Speaker 2: of snowboarders? This fascinates me. I can tell you that
Speaker 2: baseball players generally peaking about twenty eight or twenty nine
Speaker 2: unlist of knuckleball pitchers, and they get pitch into their forties.
Speaker 2: But you know, this is a young person's sport. I'm guessing.
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm not gonna lie to you. This question is.
Speaker 4: Scary to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll let that one go.
Speaker 6: I guess. So, I guess. Really, it's just however long
Speaker 6: your body lasts for you know, I mean, and being
Speaker 6: a professional in any sport is difficult once you start
Speaker 6: getting older, but there's ways to make it last forever.
Speaker 6: I mean, can you can snowboard up until I don't know,
Speaker 6: however long, however long your body lasts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not much snowboarding going on, I think in
Speaker 2: senior citizen centers, but we'll leave that alone. So it's
Speaker 2: the Red Bull Heavy Metal Tour. It's at Boston City
Speaker 2: Hall Plaza. It's this Saturday, February two, Washington's birthday, and
Speaker 2: you guys are going to be putting on a huge
Speaker 2: exhibition from two in the afternoon until five thirty. It
Speaker 2: should yeah. Great. Have you been to Boston before, Grace,
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 6: I went to the Celtics game last year. It was awesome.
Speaker 2: Okay, have you ridden the rails at City Hall Plaza before?
Speaker 2: So is this some terran that you're familiar with previously
Speaker 2: or do you see it for the first time on
Speaker 2: Saturday and say, okay, let's let's give it a shot.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 6: Actually, they're building features for this event, so none of
Speaker 6: us have ever ridden on them, so it'll be new
Speaker 6: to all of us and really exciting.
Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be exciting for you guys. It's
Speaker 2: certainly going to be exciting. How big is the troop
Speaker 2: you said it's about fifty of you that are going
Speaker 2: to be there participating, Is that.
Speaker 6: The number around fifty? I think yes.
Speaker 2: All right, well, welcome to Boston ahead of time, and
Speaker 2: I hope you get a chance to see a little
Speaker 2: bit of the city. It's it's a great city, there's
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. And uh, I think you'll find
Speaker 2: a good crowd there cheering. You're on on Saturday, and
Speaker 2: folks can get information. They can just I guess go
Speaker 2: to red Bull dot com, slash us hyphen Events, red
Speaker 2: Bull heavy Metal Boston sounds great. Grace, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Appreciate detail all the time. Okay, thanks so talk again.
Speaker 2: Thanks Grace, you too, you too, and stay safe. Okay.
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side of the nine o'clock
Speaker 2: news is going to talk about shoveling snow or not
Speaker 2: shoveling snow and the consequences thereof in the city of Summerville.
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be an interesting topic. Hope
Speaker 2: you stay with us. Back on nightside right after the
Speaker 2: nine o'clock news,